1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:10,000 The power of your own power is infinite. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,000 What? Good evening, everybody! 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Yes! It still exists! 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:27,000 to redo on Saturday the 18th, and here we are, 10.36pm on Sunday the 19th. 5 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:43,500 36 hours that I had so much to... 6 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:48,500 which is where I had my office. 7 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:59,000 A spaghetti factory has exploded and anyone who's ever tinkered around with audio and patch cables and wires probably knows exactly what I'm talking about. 8 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,000 It kinda looks like my room when I was 6 years old too, you know, stringing wires all across the room. 9 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:21,500 So let me see, of course life got in the way of having some actual real fun here. 10 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:25,500 I had to go up, I was being interviewed for a TV show so I had to be... 11 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:35,000 And there's some financial meetings I could do and actually I really wanted to go back to Belgium 12 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 And then possibly even fly back up to Amsterdam or even stay there 13 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,000 for the 27th annual 14 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,000 reunion of the pirate radio station I worked at in the 15 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 very early 80 81 79 through 16 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:58,000 27th annual reunion Christ. So I drove back down to Belgium and it being a Friday, 17 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,000 usually traffic is a little bit heavier. It takes about an hour and a half to get from Belgium to Amsterdam 18 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:09,000 and vice versa from where we live. And there were a couple of accidents. So I wound up spending about 19 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,000 three hours on the road. Didn't get it until 6.30. And I said, well, screw it. I'm going to have dinner here 20 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 with the... 21 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:17,500 That's my daughter Christina. 22 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:20,500 She said, what are you doing? 23 00:02:20,500 --> 00:02:21,500 What are you wearing? 24 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:22,500 Mom's Uggs. 25 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:23,500 OK. 26 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:30,500 So it was 10. 27 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:31,500 Oh, so it was about 7 o'clock. 28 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:32,500 We had dinner. 29 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:34,500 And Christina was out. 30 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:39,500 She was training for horse riding. 31 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:42,500 So we hung out, watched a bit of TV in there on 10.15, 32 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:43,500 10.30. 33 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:45,500 I said, OK, I'm going to go record the source code. 34 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:49,500 And Patricia said, well, why don't you do that tomorrow 35 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:50,500 when you're nice and fresh? 36 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:52,500 I said, no, it's Friday. 37 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:52,500 I've got to do this. 38 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:54,500 I have to do it every single day. 39 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:59,500 And it was like five or six minutes late. 40 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:00,500 I was thinking about Saturday morning. 41 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:04,500 And I was humming a tune, which is Chicago Saturday 42 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:05,500 in the Park. 43 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:06,500 So I'm humming this tune. 44 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:08,500 And I'm singing along with the lyrics. 45 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:21,000 And the Patricia says, no no no no, it's uh, Saturday in the park, I think it was the first of July, and of course! 46 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Yeah, after 17 years of marriage, you say, wanna bet? 47 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Right, so obviously I won the bet, which I knew I would. 48 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,000 You never want to bet with a disj- 49 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:46,500 And, um, as sometimes will happen between consenting adults, you know, they'll make some kind of... 50 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Maybe it's insurable for broadcast, no matter if it's on airwaves or on MP3. 51 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 So needless to say... 52 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Anyway, so to make it up and then of course I'll tell you what happened on Saturday morning and Sunday all the stuff that I went through 53 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Oh, we're gonna play a couple s- 54 00:04:26,250 --> 00:07:43,750 [ Music ] 55 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:50,500 from Belgium. 56 00:07:50,500 --> 00:07:53,500 Okay, so Saturday morning, I got up bright and early, 57 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:55,500 had all these songs all chosen, of course, 58 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:57,500 you know, it's gonna make total sense 59 00:07:57,500 --> 00:07:58,500 to play that on Saturday 60 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:01,500 and to make up for missing out on Friday. 61 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:06,500 And I was up at 7.30, got everything together. 62 00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:11,500 I reverted back to the old way of recording. 63 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:12,500 And I was figuring, you know, 64 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:15,500 I'd get one source code down and then, you know, 65 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:17,500 I'd really work on my audio setup 66 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:19,500 to make the new show, Trade Secrets, 67 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:22,500 much, much better from quality, of quality. 68 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:24,500 Because, you know, I was sitting in the car 69 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:26,500 for so many hours, it had my iPod with me, of course. 70 00:08:26,500 --> 00:08:31,500 And it had the first, the inaugural Trade Secret show 71 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:33,500 loaded up on it. 72 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:34,500 So I had a chance to listen to the show 73 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:35,500 and I was not happy. 74 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:36,500 I was happy with the content. 75 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:43,500 I thought it was very good for a first co-host show. 76 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:46,500 Particularly if you've known each other for a long time, 77 00:08:46,500 --> 00:08:49,500 because the risk, and Dave Slusher pointed this out 78 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:50,500 on the evil genius chronic. 79 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000 There's a risk that you get a little buddy-buddy and then the listener is sitting there going, 80 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 what are these guys laughing about? 81 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,000 But as you get to know us better, then you'll understand our humor and you'll pick up on stuff pretty quickly. 82 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 It always happens with that. I've done a lot of radio shows with co- 83 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:17,000 And, yeah, so I really, even though technologically we had a set up pretty interesting with recording via wire tap, which records all of your Mac OS audio, 84 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:25,000 and using, we tried Skype, Skype didn't work, and then we tried iChat with the AOL Instant Message client. 85 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 And what's nice about iChat is you can route the input and the output. 86 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:37,500 How can we do this, like a real highly produced show that you do live to MP3 on your computer? 87 00:09:37,500 --> 00:09:39,500 And do we have all the bits to do that with? 88 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:46,500 Because my mic sounded really good on Trace Secrets and Dave just, 89 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:51,500 because my mic sounded so hot and so processed and his volume was soft, 90 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:54,500 that it just sounded almost like talking with a person on the phone, 91 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:57,500 which is not what I wanted it to be. I wanted it to sound much more like we're 92 00:09:58,500 --> 00:10:04,500 more or less in the same room. So I wanted to figure all of that out, but I just cut a quick 93 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:08,500 source code. Do a nice 40 minute show, whatever. So I was in the 30 minutes into it, 94 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:13,500 then the computer froze up again, just like it had done three times when Dave and I started 95 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:17,500 recording the first Trace Secrets, which was so hard man, because your energy is gone. 96 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:22,500 It's hard to tell the same story again because it's just not fresh anymore. 97 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:30,500 And still, I think we did a pretty good job, but it was so frustrating Saturday morning and it 98 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:32,500 froze up and then I'd say, okay, I'm... 99 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,000 to go back to the bare basics and what are going to use wire tap and just a little bit 100 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,000 of microphone processing and the quick time player and then that start crashing. 101 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,000 I said, you know what? 102 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Screw it. 103 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:47,000 I'm going to figure out how to get this audio stuff working the way I want it before I record 104 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:47,000 another show. 105 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Well, have you ever been trying to get somewhere from anyone with like a train or an airplane? 106 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,000 We need the connection. 107 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,000 And someone eventually will say to you, excuse me, you just can't get here. 108 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Get there from here. 109 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Well, let me move my life out of the way of my necklace. 110 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:05,000 There. 111 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Hello. 112 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,000 You know, so this is kind of the same with what I'm trying to do here with the 113 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,000 audio set up on the Mac. 114 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,000 You cannot get there from here, at least not with the tools that you have. 115 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Hold on. 116 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Let me just stick that inside there. 117 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:17,000 There we go. 118 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Here's what I wanted. 119 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Now anyone who's who's worked in a radio studio or in any type of audio 120 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,000 studio, you know that you have all your outputs and you want to have 121 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 sends to send stuff to, you know, rather. 122 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:42,500 it to a different place and trying to find the combination of being able to route audio 123 00:11:42,500 --> 00:11:46,500 into the right places and to record it all and to be able to shut off the mic selectively 124 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:50,500 so that it doesn't keep on recording was very, very difficult. 125 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:57,500 There is no application as far as I know for OSX, for Mac that will let you do exactly 126 00:11:57,500 --> 00:11:59,500 what I want to achieve. 127 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:05,500 So here's how I had it set up at a certain point and I have seen the limits of the G4 processor ladies and gentlemen. 128 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:06,500 I have been to the edge and it doesn't 129 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:14,000 to do and I'll tell you what the solution is. So what I want to be able to do is, well, 130 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,000 basically there is no program that I could find that would let you address more than 131 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:26,000 one audio interface per channel on a mixing console because that's really what I need. 132 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Now there's all kinds of virtual devices that you can set up. You have Soundflower 133 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,000 which gives you two channels in, two channels out of a virtual device. You have Soundflower 134 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:41,000 16 which obviously gives you 16 channels. These, and they work very well. 135 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:46,000 Also you have something called Jack Tools. Jake Savin from Userland sent me an email. 136 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:51,500 knows damn well what's out there and what's available. 137 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:55,500 He also pointed to Jack Tools and he said, you know, this stuff is open source. 138 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:59,500 It's come from the Linux world, but still all pretty much cutting edge. 139 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:00,500 Yeah, boy is it. 140 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:01,500 It does work. 141 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:07,500 You know, you can actually route the sound out of one application into another application. 142 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:10,500 And at a certain point I had it all set up. 143 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:11,500 Everything was working. 144 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:14,500 I could selectively route things left and right. 145 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:21,500 The problem was you're sending all of this audio through virtual audio devices and delay 146 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:22,500 builds up latency. 147 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:27,500 It starts off with maybe just a millisecond or two. 148 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:30,500 And then before you know it, you know, you do something else, you move your mouse and 149 00:13:30,500 --> 00:13:33,500 then, you know, it's going to start caching that and storing it in different places in 150 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:35,500 memory. 151 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:43,500 And then basically on the headphones, I'd hear my voice delayed, which makes it very difficult 152 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:49,500 to talk because, you know, the machine had it. 153 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:50,500 I opened up a terminal. 154 00:13:51,000 --> 00:14:00,000 window and I did a top command that was running like an average of 11 or 12 on the load on 155 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,000 the machine. 156 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,000 And the first thing I thought was, oh, I need to do a processor now. 157 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,000 But then I was like, no, you're never going to get it exactly synced up. 158 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,000 There's always going to be a delay. 159 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Now my PowerBook, as with most Macs, has an internal device, but you can only switch 160 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,000 between your internal microphone or your line input. 161 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:28,000 And it only really has one real input device. 162 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 So I had to break down. 163 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 I didn't want to, but I guess there's no other choice. 164 00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:38,500 hardware device. Now I happen to have sitting around, I've had it for a long 165 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:43,500 time, never really used it. It's an M-Box from Digi Design. It's just a little, and 166 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:48,500 thank God it's not too big, so it's still portable. It's a little plastic box. 167 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:57,500 It connects by USB to the computer. It has two inputs. One mix output and it has, 168 00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:04,500 hold on a second, let me just see what I've got here. Yeah, and it has a volume for 169 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:08,500 headphones. I can also provide phantom power 48 volts if needed and you can 170 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:14,500 switch those inputs between a line or a mic or a MIDI instrument. 171 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:20,000 So, I believe it or not, I now have it so that, 172 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,000 and I purchased DJ 1800, which is like, I think it's $35. 173 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:32,000 And it's, you basically have a visual interface of four playback decks. 174 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,000 And they pretty much look like either a digital deck or a, 175 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,000 it has a very VCR quality to it. 176 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,000 But it looks a lot like studio CD players that we've used on radio studios. 177 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,000 And you can cue up stuff real quick and it automatically detects the beginning and the end of a track. 178 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 And you can, you know, loop it. 179 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,000 There's a countdown timer. 180 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,000 You can speed through it really quickly, step through exactly what you want. 181 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:00,000 With four faders for outputs, you can route stuff to a different output for, 182 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 if you know, if you want to cue something up so that it's not being recorded. 183 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Now I'm sending the output of that just to the regular speakers. 184 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 I'm using GarageBand for the mic processing. 185 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Also, so that's just grabbing the microphone in and that literally is. 186 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:17,500 Let me see. 187 00:16:17,500 --> 00:16:22,500 Oh, that's grabbing from the M-Box because the microphone is plugged into the M-Box. 188 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:24,500 It gets crazier. 189 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:26,500 But here's the way I did it. 190 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:31,500 So somewhere I had to build one routing, one connection between two different devices, 191 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,500 and neither of them could be a virtual device. 192 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:42,500 So indeed, I now have, from the headphones, going out is a 3.5mm stereo jack, going 193 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:47,500 into two XLRs, which are the, you know, if you've ever seen those, those are professional plugs. 194 00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:49,500 Often you see them on microphones. 195 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:55,500 It's a round plug with three big holes, or if it's a male connector, three prongs in there. 196 00:16:55,500 --> 00:17:00,500 And that's being fed into the DigiDesign hardware box. 197 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:02,500 So that's now become an input. 198 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:06,500 And all of that eventually routes into Audio Hijack Pro, which I also purchased. 199 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:11,500 Otherwise, after 10 minutes, you get this really nasty hissing sound. 200 00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:14,500 And that is recording everything that's coming off of that box. 201 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:17,500 So in theory, I can send all this. 202 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:23,000 information I can write, you know, a whole bunch more of applications output to the 203 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:28,000 inbox because it's all sitting there in a chip, I guess, in theory. There's no 204 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,000 memory that's being swapped from disk or anything that can really slow down and I 205 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,000 think it can handle quite a lot and it's really only getting, you know, one 206 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 signal that's already mixed. So I think that I should be able to do quite a 207 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:44,000 lot and of course now I can add a either an iChat call and I can route 208 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:51,000 back to it from anything that I want to. So for the next trade secrets, I should be 209 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,000 able to not only get Dave's quality equal to mine, but I should also be able to send 210 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,000 it when I play something. He should be able to hear that on his head, on his end, 211 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:06,000 even if I'm playing an mp3. Okay, so you can only imagine that this took all of 212 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Saturday up until 1am and that's when I finally gave up. You know, actually I 213 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:18,000 thought I had it all running at 1am and I was still, excuse me, using wiretap and damn it. 214 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:22,500 killed it, like 30, again 30 minutes into it. 215 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:26,500 So, there's nothing more damning than having recorded something 216 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:29,500 and really put some effort into whatever you're saying 217 00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:33,500 and then just have that crash and be totally gone. 218 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:34,500 So I needed something really stable 219 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:35,500 and I think I have this set up. 220 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:38,500 And I'll really list this and take some screenshots 221 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:40,500 so everybody can see what the setup is 222 00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:42,500 because I know that not many people 223 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:44,500 are on this path trying to make this happen. 224 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:46,500 But it can be done. 225 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:49,500 It's just the external box that pisses me off 226 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:50,500 that I have to have that. 227 00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:55,500 But until I have two different sound devices in my computer 228 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:59,500 or if anyone makes one like that that's portable, 229 00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:00,500 just have to live with this. 230 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:03,500 Let's see, what I want to talk about. 231 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:08,500 Oh, it's funny because so this morning, 232 00:19:08,500 --> 00:19:11,500 again got up really early 233 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:14,500 because we had to go to a big fashion show 234 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:18,500 that Patricia does every year or every season actually 235 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:19,500 with Paul Schilter. 236 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:20,500 He's a... 237 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,000 a big fashion guy here in the Netherlands, actually in Europe. 238 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,000 And he has a huge, so 750 people. 239 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,000 And she designs the makeup, works with the models. 240 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:37,000 She also has a big influence on all of the clothing stuff that he does. 241 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,000 This year, we had our flat screens, the Grand Master View flat screens. 242 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,000 I'm a shareholder in the company. 243 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 These are flat screens that are 2 meter 20 diagonal. 244 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 That's the consumer version. 245 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 We can make them so big you wouldn't believe. 246 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000 So I was there selling screens. 247 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Patricia was there with her cosmetics company. 248 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 And she also did something very cool. 249 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,000 She did a song. 250 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,000 She performed a song at the very end of the show. 251 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 And all the models came out and danced with her. 252 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:11,000 And I played that one for you because it's just kind of cool 253 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 and it's rather short. 254 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 That's my wife. 255 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 My husband. 256 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Italiano. 257 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 I'm a source girl. 258 00:20:21,250 --> 00:22:36,250 [ Music ] 259 00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:39,500 I'm always at the unknown. 260 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:40,500 My wife. 261 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:41,500 On the source code. 262 00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:42,500 Go figure. 263 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:45,500 Man, if I played my wife's song on the radio, people would be so pissed off. 264 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:49,500 No, no, no, you can't do that because you know, that's like... 265 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:51,500 Anyway, my show, do whatever the hell I want. 266 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,500 Okay, let's switch gears here for a second. 267 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:55,500 Need to talk about a couple things. 268 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:59,500 First of all, as I was on the road a lot, I also caught Dave Slusher's source code 269 00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:00,500 for yesterday. 270 00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:02,500 I'm on the source code. 271 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:12,000 And he came up with something. He caught a refer which was hitting his or was it his bit 272 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,000 torrents? Well, you'd have to listen to the latest show to get all of that. I don't have it queued up 273 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:24,000 right now. But he saw in his refer log, I think it was a podcaster.net and he's coined podcasting. 274 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,000 And I'm like, I'm all for that. That sounds good. We're podcasting everybody. Of course, 275 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:36,000 you have to all agree that pods are MP3 devices. I don't think Apple can see us for pods, can they? 276 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:43,000 So podcasting, I'm digging that. Like it. Which brings me from the bit torrent brings me to the iPod 277 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,000 list. I also haven't had a lot of time for email. Haven't even posted anything on the web. 278 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:57,000 deep into the core audio of Mac OS X that I did skim through most of the messages on 279 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,000 the iPod developer list. 280 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000 It's a great, great vibe that's there. 281 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Everyone's using each other's code, commenting on how we can make it all better. 282 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:15,000 I see that we kind of want to have some set definitions as to what an iPod is so we can 283 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:23,000 all make a version with some either multiple versions with the same functionality or maybe 284 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:30,000 we come up with some common gold standard that everybody uses and tomorrow I'll be able to 285 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,000 focus on that and see what I can contribute. 286 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000 But some great iPod versions are out there. 287 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000 It's hard to even keep track of at this point. 288 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000 I think I spidered on evil gene. 289 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:50,000 which I have tried now it has an install package for OSX. 290 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 It adds a cron job. 291 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000 See there was some other great features that it has. 292 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Oh, it also understands BitTorrents. 293 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000 This is really cool. 294 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000 So if you attach a BitTorrent of your show, 295 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,000 then it knows to go out, download the torrent file 296 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000 and then put that in your items. 297 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,000 And woo, I gotta try the new version of iPod tomorrow 298 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,000 because that's exactly what I'm looking for. 299 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000 really hookin' this all together. It's just phenomenal. 300 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:25,000 See, there was something on IT conversations that I was listening to. It wasn't the most recent Gilmore gang. 301 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:33,500 On the road I listened to about half of the show and they were talking about, it was about 302 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:38,500 IT and law and although sometimes very technical and a bit over my head, I do like listening 303 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,500 to those types of conversations. 304 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:46,500 And this one focused a lot on the three different music services, of course IT Music Store from 305 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:51,500 Apple, Microsoft and Reel. 306 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:56,500 And as I was listening to this, I'm like, how, here are these guys, these big companies 307 00:25:56,500 --> 00:26:01,500 and they see the music businesses in trouble and it's as if they're trying to say, oh, 308 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:02,500 you know, it's up for grabs. 309 00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:04,500 I'm going to go, you know, we're going to go get this market. 310 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:09,500 I don't think that's, you know, that's where the big money is, you know, look at, 311 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:13,500 look at what's happening all of a sudden with, with the, with the iPod platform. 312 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:17,500 Look, we're using this as completely not in the way they ever thought over the 313 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:17,500 way to design it. 314 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:21,500 And as long as we keep using MP3s and keep that to ourselves, then we're going to 315 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,500 be, we're going to be pretty good. 316 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:27,500 Although there's a lot to say for other formats and a lot of people are looking 317 00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:29,500 at AC files, which is. 318 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:37,000 I guess proprietary compression which includes DRM and also some nifty features like bookmarking. 319 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:43,000 But I'm going to keep it with MP3 because I think that's the format that we have to protect and have to serve. 320 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:51,000 There was so much, you know, I've started this show so many times over the past couple of days. 321 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000 So much to talk about. 322 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000 Darn. 323 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,000 Well, I have a couple other things queued up and ready to go for you. 324 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:08,000 I was thinking about the George Carlin bit that I played, how long was that? 325 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Must have been last week, maybe the beginning of last week, and I played the bit about stuff. 326 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:23,000 And as I was working with this new DJ 1800 program, which I'm just really happy about how it performs, 327 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:30,000 it also integrates with iTunes so you can just drag something out of your iTunes playlist right onto a player and it works. 328 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000 And it'll eat anything that... 329 00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:34,500 that iTunes does or the QuickTime does, I guess. 330 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:39,500 And I ran across a show from 1999, George Carlin, 331 00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:43,500 I believe it was on HBO, and I had an audio file of that 332 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:46,500 for some reason, well, because I like it so much. 333 00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,500 And he does this one bit, which now, of course, 334 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,500 this is pre-911. 335 00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:53,500 And the bit is about airport security. 336 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:57,500 And although, you know, not if you thought that this was 337 00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:00,500 done just yesterday or anytime post-911, 338 00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:02,500 you might be offended by some bit. 339 00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:05,500 So you have to take into consideration and keep in mind 340 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:10,500 that this is from 1999, at the time when I was traveling 341 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,500 a lot in America, I was on flights all the time. 342 00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:16,500 And then George Carlin comes out with this great bit 343 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:18,500 about airport security and think, 344 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:20,500 and just listen to what he's saying 345 00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:25,500 and listen to how insightful he was at the time 346 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,500 and also think about where we are today 347 00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:29,500 with security in general, 348 00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:32,500 and certainly when it comes to airport security. 349 00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:33,500 George Carlin. 350 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000 with airport security. 351 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000 and it makes the world a lot easier to sort out. 352 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,000 First thing on my list tonight, airport security. 353 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Tired of this shit. There's too much of it. 354 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,000 There's too much security at the airport. 355 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,000 I'm tired of some guy with a double digit IQ 356 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,000 and a triple digit in... 357 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:12,500 haven't found anything yet. 358 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:15,500 Haven't found one bomb in one bag. 359 00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,500 And don't tell me, well, the terrorists know their bags are going to be searched, 360 00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:20,500 so now they're leaving their bombs at home. 361 00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,500 There are no bombs. 362 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,500 The whole thing is fucking pointless. 363 00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:28,500 It's completely without logic. 364 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:29,500 There's no logic at all. 365 00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:32,500 They'll take away a gun, but let you keep a knife. 366 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:34,500 Well, what the fuck is that? 367 00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:39,500 In fact, there's a whole list of lethal objects they will allow you to take onboard. 368 00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:43,500 Theoretically, you could take a knife, a nice pick, a hatchet, a straight razor, 369 00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:47,500 a pair of scissors, a chainsaw, six knitting needles, and a broken whiskey bottle. 370 00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:52,500 And the only thing they're going to say to you is that bag has to fit all the way under the seat in front of you. 371 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:58,500 If you didn't take a weapon on board, relax. 372 00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:02,500 After you've been flying for about an hour, they're going to bring you a knife and fork. 373 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:06,500 To they give you a fucking knife 374 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:10,500 It's only a table knife, but you could kill a pilot with a table knife 375 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:13,500 Might take a couple of minutes, you know 376 00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:16,500 Especially if he's hefty, huh? 377 00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:21,500 Yeah, but you could get the job done. You really want to kill the prick 378 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:27,500 But there's a lot of things you could use to kill a guy with you could probably beat a guy to death with a Sunday, New York 379 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Or, suppose you just had really big hands. 380 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Couldn't you strangle a flight attendant? 381 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,000 Sure you could probably strangle two of them, one with each hand. 382 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,000 You know, if you were lucky enough to catch him in that little kitchen area, before they 383 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000 give out the fucking peanuts, you know? 384 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,000 But you could get the job done, if you're really cared enough. 385 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:57,000 So why isn't they allow a man with big powerful hands to get on board an airplane? 386 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,000 I'll tell you why. 387 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:05,000 They know he's not a security risk because he's already answered the three big questions. 388 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:11,000 Question number one, did you pack your bags yourself? 389 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,000 No. 390 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:15,500 My bad 391 00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:22,500 He and Martha Stewart and Florence Henderson came over to the house last night, 392 00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:29,500 fixed me a lovely lobster new burger, gave me a full body massage with sacred oils from India, 393 00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:33,500 performed a far way around the world, and then they packed my bags. 394 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,500 Next question. 395 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:46,500 You're back been in your possession the whole time. No 396 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:51,500 Usually the night before I travel just as the moon is rising 397 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:57,500 Place my suitcases out on the street corner and leave them there unattended for several hours 398 00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:00,500 Just for good luck 399 00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:03,500 Next question 400 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,500 As any unknown person asked you to take anything on board 401 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:10,500 hmm 402 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:13,500 Well, what exactly is an unknown person? 403 00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:16,500 Surely everyone is known to someone 404 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:21,500 in fact just this morning Karim and you said Ali Ben Gabbá 405 00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:25,500 They didn't know each other quite well 406 00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:29,500 They kept joking about which one of my suitcases was the heaviest 407 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:37,500 And that's another thing they don't like at the airport jokes, you know, yeah, you can't joke about a bomb 408 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,500 Well, why is it just jokes what about a riddle? 409 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:45,500 How about a limerick? 410 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,500 How about a bomb anecdote? 411 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:52,500 You know, no punchline, just a really cute story. 412 00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:57,500 Or, suppose you intended to remark, not as a joke, but as an ironic musing. 413 00:32:57,500 --> 00:32:59,500 Are they prepared to make that distinction? 414 00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:02,500 Why, I think not. 415 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:05,500 And besides, who's to say what's funny? 416 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:08,500 Airport security is a stupid idea that's a waste of money 417 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:12,500 and it's only there for one reason to make white people feel safe. 418 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:15,500 That's all. The illusion. 419 00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,500 The feeling and illusion of safety. 420 00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:22,500 Because the authorities know they can't make an airplane completely safe. 421 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,000 You'll notice the drug smugglers don't seem to have a lot of trouble getting their little packages on board, do they? 422 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000 No, and God bless them too! 423 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,000 By the way, an airplane flight shouldn't be completely safe. 424 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000 You need a little danger in your life. 425 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000 Take a fucking chance once in a while, will you? 426 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,000 What are you gonna do? Play with your prick for another 30 years? 427 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,000 What are you gonna read, People Magazine and Eat It Wendy's till the end of time? 428 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,000 Take a fucking chance. 429 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,000 Besides, even if they made all the airplanes completely safe, 430 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,000 the terrorists would simply start bombing other places that are crowded. 431 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Porn shops, track houses, city bars and gang bangs. 432 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Hello. 433 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Entertainment venues. 434 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,000 The odds of you being killed by a terrorist are practically zero. 435 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000 So I say relax and enjoy the show. 436 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,000 You have to be a realist. You have to be realistic about terrorism. 437 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Certain groups of people, certain groups, 438 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Muslim fundamentalists, Christian fundamentalists, Jewish fundamentalists, 439 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,000 and just plain guys from Montana. 440 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,000 continue to make life in this country very interesting for a long, long time. 441 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 That's the reality. 442 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,000 Angry men in combat fatigues talking to God on a two-way radio and muttering incoherent 443 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:53,000 slogans about freedom are eventually going to provide us with a great deal of entertainment. 444 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:59,000 Especially after your stupid fucking economy collapses all around you and the terrorists 445 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000 come out of the woodwork and you'll have anthrax in your water supply and sarin gas 446 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,000 in your air condition that'd be chemical and 447 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000 enjoy the show take a fucking chance put a little fun in your life 448 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 to me terrorism is exciting it's exciting 449 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,000 I think the very idea that you can set off a bomb in a marketplace and kill 450 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 several hundred people 451 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,000 But we also know that most Americans are soft and frightened and unimaginative and they 452 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 don't realize there's such a thing as being... 453 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000 certainly don't recognize a good show when they see one. 454 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000 I've always been willing to put myself at great personal risk 455 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000 for the sake of entertainment. 456 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000 And I've always been willing to put you at great personal risk 457 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000 for the same reason. 458 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000 As far as I'm concerned, all of this airport security, 459 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000 all the searches, the screenings, the cameras, 460 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000 the questions, it's just one more way. 461 00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:09,500 As long as you put up with it. 462 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:11,500 As long as you put up with it. 463 00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:14,500 Which means of course, any time they want. 464 00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:15,500 Because that's what Americans do now. 465 00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:18,500 They're always willing to trade away a little of their freedom 466 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:20,500 in exchange for the feeling, the el- 467 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,000 obsessed with security and safety and crime and drugs and cleanliness. 468 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,000 There's another thing, germs. Where did the sudden fear of germs come from? 469 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,000 In the country of Harlem. 470 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:51,000 1999, about airport security, about terrorism, and about your personal freedom, fellow Americans. 471 00:36:51,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Holy moly, what an insight. 1999. I wonder if he'd do the same routine again today, and if he'd change anything, what he'd be changing. 472 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:07,000 Okay, it's now 11.13. Unfortunately, I can't use Audio Hijack Pro to cut. 473 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,000 because once again I'm taxing the processor and it actually starts to skip little bits 474 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:19,000 of recording which blows. 475 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,000 So I'm recording it to AIFF which is a format that I have a nice little Apple script for 476 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,000 that. 477 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:34,500 M-A-A-M, which is MPEG to AIFF or AIFF to MPEG. 478 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:39,500 We actually wrote that script when we were doing our reality show because we had so many, 479 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:42,500 we put all kinds of great tunes in the show, 480 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:46,500 and of course they were all downloaded from the internet, 481 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:48,500 and we had to get them into Final Cut Pro, 482 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:51,500 which I don't think the new version eats MP3s yet. 483 00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:55,500 And AIFF is just much easier for it to work with, less processor intensive 484 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,500 because it's file, you know, there's so much more information there, 485 00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:01,500 it doesn't have to go through so much compression and decompression. 486 00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:07,500 And so we, you know, we just have a script, a little droplet, you drag MP3 onto it, 487 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:10,500 turns into an AIFF with the same name and vice versa. 488 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:13,500 So I have to do the conversion and then I can upload it to the server. 489 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:18,500 So it may even be Monday the 20th by the time the show gets up on the air. 490 00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:24,500 And again, I apologize for the radio silence or the podcasting silence. 491 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:30,500 I will be sure to do a little more coherent show tomorrow, also it won't be cool. 492 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,000 quite as tired. It's been a really long weekend and I got a lot of cleaning up to do. There's 493 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,000 wires everywhere. And of course now for the next four days, I'm Mr. Mom. Patricia stayed 494 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:45,000 in Amsterdam with her sister at the bunker and they're off to the UK tomorrow to go and 495 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:51,000 look at houses. And she's got the video camera with her. So, yes, Jesse, hold on, 496 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,000 the dog wants to go out. So depending on the footage that she brings back, maybe 497 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000 you'll post some of that online. Go ahead. 498 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,000 I said, just gonna walk out the back here for a second. 499 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000 Ah, it's a lovely night. 500 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,000 If you can hear that, that's our fountain over on the other side of the courtyard. 501 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000 Total silence here. I'm gonna miss this 502 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000 Our nice castle in 503 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000 Flanders in Belgium I 504 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000 can see 505 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,000 Fred and ginger are two black swans with their six babies which aren't even babies anymore 506 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000 They're walking on the grass back here. They're gonna start flying pretty soon 507 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000 They're gonna try to start flying which is always hilarious 508 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Because they you know sometimes it's it's like the keystone cops. You know and they they even fly into each other 509 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000 You done Jess come on 510 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,000 This is Jesse one of our three dogs. Good 511 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,000 So tomorrow morning to some more techno talk because of course 512 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:57,000 The credo of source code is that we try to make the place where users and developers party together 513 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:05,000 And there's a lot more to talk about these are the iPod or the iPod platform podcasting and all that other groovy stuff 514 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000 And I've got to go put my daughter to bed right now 515 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,000 So again, mr. Ball be real busy. You know we have goats and chickens and 516 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:18,500 horses and really start to appreciate what someone else does in the household. 517 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:22,500 So I'm going to leave you with that for today and I will be back. 518 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,000 We're the new source code for Monday, September. 519 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000 As always, if you want to respond to- 520 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,000 code on the website. 521 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,500 The power of the door is lost. 522 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:50,500 If you're subscribing to this or you want to subscribe, the URL for the RSS 2.0. 523 00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,500 And if you're new to the old iPodder concept, check out iPodder.org. 524 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:03,500 See you tomorrow on the source code!