1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:18,400 I am dude it's working what's what's really funny is that I didn't answer the 2 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,320 phone though you didn't answer the phone what do you mean I don't know it's just 3 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,800 rag and all of a sudden you were talking I'll take it that was that was cool 4 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,760 number one number two here's the other weird thing I can hear you through my 5 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,440 headphones but I can't hear me through my headphones which is alright I just sort 6 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,520 of believe I just sort of believe if you can hear me then then you'll like that 7 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,960 will be fine and I don't need to hear myself that's okay because I'm I'm 8 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:53,040 actually hold on so now do I get some of that cool reverb too here's the 9 00:00:53,040 --> 00:01:00,660 bum bummer I'm oh shit this is really hard what happened it's a delaying a 10 00:01:00,660 --> 00:01:07,680 little bit well maybe if I don't oh I see it's coming back now oh I see the 11 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,880 problem we got a loop go in there huh oh I can hear myself now yeah you don't want 12 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:20,120 wow wow wow whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa we did that with we had that 13 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,080 kind of delay once during a webcast at Harvard and we were able to sing row row 14 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:30,280 row your boat with ourselves you know like a little round thing the delay was 15 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:36,560 that good oh really yeah it was pretty funny okay let me if I turn this down a 16 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:43,280 bit boy they really got zot in Haiti you know this this hurricane it's coming 17 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:54,520 hold on a second yeah I just wanna set this up one two check one two you said can 18 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:01,640 you talk for a sec I can talk for a sec yeah okay hello this is dr. Dave coming it 19 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,240 was so cool and then and then Doug K I'm gonna play do that on my next source 20 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,480 code Doug K came back with with the correction on the settings dr. Dave 21 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:15,600 advice yeah it was perfect it was so perfect did you hear the Gilmore gang I 22 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:22,480 haven't yet oh dude they're all over iPodder really good yeah and of course 23 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,880 finally finally finally they have some technology to talk about it really and 24 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,480 then one of the guys says you know Adam Curry the X VH1 VJ I'm like 25 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:40,360 man you're getting old that sucks you're your ass tags literally as they say 26 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:47,760 those words oh Dave may the hair god punish you even more shit 27 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,160 you could worse it could be worse I just saw a thing on Donald Trump no 28 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,400 kidding and they had a picture of him 20 years ago and he actually looked pretty 29 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:03,800 good back in the day yeah the Donald was looking good yeah exactly well he was in 30 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:11,320 New York icon in the 80s yep I was in I was living in New York when I think if 31 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:20,200 you watch that show you may get a glimpse of your future gee thanks Dave I think 32 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:28,640 I'm extremely innovative yeah he's he's funny because I'm like exactly in the 33 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:33,520 middle age wise between the two yeah how old is Trump is he 60s he's 10 years 34 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:41,040 older than me yes we stood 59 59 yeah and you're like just turned 40 yeah he's 35 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,240 still got a ways to go before you're old I tell you so okay you said there was 36 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,960 you you the reason we're recording this you chatted me you chatted me up 37 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:56,400 you bitch yeah you chatted me up and said that there's a VP debate tomorrow yeah I 38 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,840 said this that we're on the eve of the VP debate I have to go look into this but 39 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,760 that could be just as good in many ways as the debate between Kerry and Bush 40 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:14,120 because you know Cheney is kind of you know an asshole okay just kind of well 41 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,480 it's kind of you know I'm sure his wife doesn't think maybe she does yeah you 42 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,480 don't know yeah it could be so that could be kind of interesting but I thought it 43 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,800 would be fun to have people if we could swing it technically to have people be 44 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:34,360 able to call in yeah the debate because we'd all have something we could watch 45 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,880 at the same time and something to respond to so that way if we you and I 46 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,640 happen to miss one of the lies mm-hmm Bush was telling we're gonna overlook 47 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:51,040 the ones that Kerry tells of course of course if we have to catch a lie or miss 48 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,200 one then somebody else might catch it sort of okay but the problem here with 49 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:01,920 the call in is that gee boy maybe that's pushing it that sounds like it's pushing 50 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,600 it well no no I mean what I'd like to do is first I'd like to see if we can 51 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,680 even get our audio synced up you know because there could be a significant 52 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,600 delay between what you get from CNN and what I get from CNN which also make it 53 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,520 interesting but I I want to try and stick to all the all the known factors before 54 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:25,280 before we go you know how much of a delay do you think they would be well I've 55 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:30,000 seen satellite delays of many many seconds almost really yeah come on hold a 56 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,880 second day what baby yeah yeah I've been if enough to unbelly oh 8 in 57 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:48,200 oh is that snacks I was just served my my Saturday snack thank you here okay I'm 58 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,920 talking to Dave when you laugh so loud about why did she was she laughing at me 59 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:59,080 or with no she was laughing at your Bush commentary oh really she cracked up when 60 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:09,360 you said that he's lying like a motherfucker it was great it was perfect but 61 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,480 that's exactly what it's like yeah it's like okay we're watching a president 62 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:18,040 Bush in the Rose Garden and he's taking out a three club a three wood 63 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:24,960 but I was entertained by too it could be much better 64 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:30,880 mm-hmm Rushland both did a wonderful job with Kerry I was laughing out loud it was 65 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:37,400 funny was that on the radio yeah shit I wish I could hear that well it's long 66 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:43,040 gone but I was in Pennsylvania on my beginning my cross-country drive and I 67 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:49,580 think he had recorded the Kerry speech a lot of his stuff was recorded yeah and so 68 00:06:49,580 --> 00:06:55,280 he had it on this loop thing and he would press the the button and Kerry would 69 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:59,600 say the thing and then he'd go I can't comment on this and then he would say 70 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:05,400 oh I have to hit pause that's why I do on the source code that's fun and then 71 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,400 he would yeah of course then he would hit backspace mm-hmm and then he would play 72 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:15,520 it again and he'd get angry all over it perfect and he would say and he would 73 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,240 blame Kerry for repeating himself which I thought was the most beautiful little 74 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,560 thing he did yeah Kerry actually wasn't repeating himself he was just repeatedly 75 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:30,000 playing the thing Kerry said exactly buddy well but you want to do this live 76 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,120 right I don't know I don't know how I want to do it I just think we ought to 77 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,960 do more trade secrets things because there's more stuff to talk about number 78 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:43,640 one number two is I've been getting a universally very very positive 79 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,440 response from people about this yeah they really like it scobal I had dinner I had 80 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:58,520 dinner with and we know his boss oh yeah what do you have to say his boss no 81 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:03,440 scobal I don't know what his boss said scobal said scobal said you're gonna get 82 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:10,760 a radio contract within like two weeks well you know what it's very easy to to 83 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,640 perceive this being on the radio because it's it's what people want to listen to 84 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:21,400 and during drive time hey Christina that's my daughter now walking in just 85 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:32,800 14 days day you've corrupted my the youth of America damn oh that's a good 86 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:44,840 point no yeah but see then already it's no it's not as fun so maybe we don't maybe 87 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,160 we don't have to strive for a radio contract I think the massive amounts of 88 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,560 iPods may do it for us that's true yeah I think you were talking about with our 89 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:59,000 was that Andrew Orlowski was that the same Andrew Orlowski that routinely 90 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,400 trashes all the bloggers here I have no idea I've never read any of his stuff but 91 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:09,600 I thought this was an amazing piece it was given you know what he said we have to 92 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,720 figure out if this is the same guy he's from Australia I think oh yeah probably 93 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:20,280 isn't the same guy then it was president but it was boys in the UK I'm sorry he's 94 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:26,600 in the UK oh that's the same Andrew yeah yeah it was both president and ignorant 95 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:32,880 at the same time it was magnificent yeah of both I mean he he forecast what was 96 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,040 actually gonna happen except that his forecast was off by a few years right 97 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:43,520 five yeah he says iPods are gonna fill themselves within five years and Apple 98 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:49,080 won't build it but but someone else will yeah dude we did hope I'm losing you 99 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Dave are you there hello yeah yeah what happened there I don't know well it's 100 00:09:55,680 --> 00:10:00,280 just a connection all of a sudden dropped out I figured it was exactly six 101 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,840 minutes no that's what your your instant message was no no no in fact we're now 102 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,400 we're 10 minutes and 37 seconds now I'm not too worried about that 103 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:23,080 it's Murphy yeah you need to speak up a little bit Dave you're a little bit 104 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,440 often actually it seems like this is actually gonna make to like on the 105 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:33,600 internet and stuff right but this yeah of course okay so for the people listen at 106 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,720 home it's very important that you're in your car or on your walk or while you're 107 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:43,080 exercising or whatever it is that you're doing Spain is plain spotting 108 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,720 what is it what are you eating well look I didn't this wasn't a planned show I'm 109 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:54,800 eating I have a nice avocado with shrimp I have some olives and I have some 110 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:02,800 French bread with crab cocktail stuff and peppers and mmm it's a weekend at the 111 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:08,200 castle the quality of my connection went really way down no I'm sorry I'll stop 112 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,440 eating that'll help I think that can you hear me all right yeah I hear you 113 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:19,360 fine yeah maybe you have something running maybe you got mail running or 114 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,040 something and it's is you got something running in the background maybe your 115 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:32,120 email is sucking it in okay I can hear you fine all right so what else are we 116 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,040 oh yeah so we just got an email from Andrei Rodka and you should be on the 117 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,760 mail list now the frontier Colonel mail list yeah I signed up you sent me the 118 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:49,000 thanks and so we've got the first sort of candidate release candidate for the 119 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:55,880 open-source release of frontier really it's already is already available so what 120 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:02,200 can I do with this I can download it and do what oh okay I can like that was 121 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:09,480 really bizarre the way that sounded like Robo copping we call that what's the 122 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:17,920 name of that guy that robotic max headroom it was that's it yeah just like max 123 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,920 headroom yeah I look like I'm too at the moment how did you know because you know 124 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,920 it's like we're on the same wavelength Dave I'm touching the laptop maybe it's 125 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:33,440 actually the TCP IP connection is sending brainwaves okay so the open 126 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,640 source the open source release frontier so here's what you can do with it I did 127 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:44,280 understand the question even if it did sound bizarre first of all you have to 128 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:51,960 have Metro works environment code warrior is that what that is for met code warrior 129 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,360 that's right they have it available for both Windows and for Macintosh which are 130 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,680 the two platforms that this code runs on and and then you there are build 131 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:07,280 instructions that actually I think we we still need to post those but you can 132 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:12,880 sort of figure it out and then what happens is you know you build it and it 133 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:20,480 turns into frontier.exe then you and but however you can make changes to it 134 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:27,680 before and before you compile it so now you have the license to create your 135 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:32,920 own like frontier if you want to and you and you could you can use it to how 136 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:39,520 big is the is the kernel actually in file size I don't know I haven't looked at a 137 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,280 while let's see you mean like when it's compiled right yeah what I mean what yeah 138 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,800 what size is the frontier.exe you know how big is frontier.exe we need to do 139 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:55,080 another we need to let's recreate this connection I can't have a conversation 140 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,240 this way okay I'll call you back yeah can you call me back yeah I'd love to call 141 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:12,360 you back all right yeah much faster than regular phone service hey oh my god that 142 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:20,200 was that was scary and you sounded like you're crazy there at the end I am I was 143 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:28,000 delaying like wait a minute Christina are you downloading something check you know 144 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,840 she got line wire running again she's lying like a motherfucker I have the 145 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,800 headphones on thank God she didn't hear that Dave said you're lying like a 146 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:46,800 motherfucker now we get the the the teenager cold shoulder we don't get any 147 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:54,480 no response she's on MSN talking to 8,000 people at once you're breaking up 148 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,760 again that's the whole thing is happening again I can hear you fine MSN yeah 149 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,920 well we can't have a discussion this way but are you but you must be running your 150 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,040 male client or something's running that you're gonna have to shut off all right 151 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,640 all right all right hold on just close a bunch of stuff now all right I'm 152 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:18,160 closing AOL I just closed close Norton antivirus that sure it uses up a lot 153 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,560 that'll although I don't think I don't think it was actually running though so 154 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:29,520 closing a I am all right now I'm closing I don't want to close Skype no no keep 155 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,960 that running that would suck yeah Skype would be the thing I would not want to 156 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:40,080 quit no iTunes that could be it I iTunes just wants itself whenever it feels 157 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:45,840 like it really pisses me off it feels like it yeah you probably have an 158 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,840 iPod or script running one of those damn things launching your iTunes all over 159 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:56,320 the place excuse me but I don't run that shit all right no you're too hardcore 160 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,800 yeah after I have to go download the fucking source to frontier but you won't 161 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:07,040 even install a freaking application nice talking all that slow way again here I 162 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:15,480 have to go install your that's too bad because I can hear you just perfectly 163 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:24,240 that really sucks this can't be very good but you you sound fine I know I know 164 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,320 except when I'm imitating you yeah why don't you call me back then all right 165 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:36,700 let's try that hold on I'll go away one ring eat it one ring eating eat two ring 166 00:16:36,700 --> 00:16:45,300 eating ease all right say something yeah I'm on that's better okay I think we're 167 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:49,740 still doing one of those trade secret shows where we're not doing anything 168 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:54,940 other than talking about trade secret well you want to do the Skype test I can't 169 00:16:54,940 --> 00:16:58,900 function the way we were doing it so all right this may be better okay is this 170 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:03,740 working okay for you so far so good okay good all right so now the question is 171 00:17:03,780 --> 00:17:08,740 let me just find out what the size of this stuff is because you asked right all 172 00:17:08,740 --> 00:17:23,940 right let's go explore and it's not it's not that big basically is the yeah let's 173 00:17:23,940 --> 00:17:30,300 see hey yeah you know I'd love to have some of that food you're eating there I'm 174 00:17:30,340 --> 00:17:34,340 tell you Patricia just joined us she's she can't hear me for you because she has 175 00:17:34,340 --> 00:17:38,300 that don't have the headphones on but she's now she's eating what do you have 176 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:51,660 there that's a rabbit food that's healthy food yeah and you have what is that dried 177 00:17:51,660 --> 00:18:03,660 some dried tomatoes and rap could you ask her to sing that song that she sang for 178 00:18:03,660 --> 00:18:08,420 us yeah that's like asking a comedian to tell a joke or like a joke or a program or 179 00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:14,060 to write some code write some code yeah no I will not ask that song mumbo 180 00:18:14,060 --> 00:18:23,900 Italiano that's what yeah would you like oh yeah yeah she says not bad for a heart 181 00:18:23,900 --> 00:18:27,540 patient no that's exactly what I was thinking well she's doing it's exactly 182 00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:36,060 what he was thinking one heart patient to another here with me in the middle I 183 00:18:36,060 --> 00:18:41,060 don't think that's a good place to be just kidding 184 00:18:42,060 --> 00:18:50,380 yeah someone's got to watch over you guys exactly so it's 1357 K so it's about 1.3 185 00:18:50,380 --> 00:18:55,300 megs oh that's nothing it's tiny compared to an mp3 I mean you know but you 186 00:18:55,300 --> 00:19:00,100 could actually code all kinds of stuff into the into the kernel and you turn 187 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:04,340 that into an application yeah like for example one of the things I want to do 188 00:19:04,340 --> 00:19:09,620 is create iPod or well that wasn't what I was gonna say but I don't know you 189 00:19:09,620 --> 00:19:13,900 guys seem to be doing so good with that well the publishing side is where it is 190 00:19:13,900 --> 00:19:16,980 where we're gonna run into problems and I've been I've been thinking about this 191 00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:24,380 a lot you know because either you're gonna interface with existing weblog 192 00:19:24,380 --> 00:19:28,540 software that'll create an RSS file or you're going to basically go back and 193 00:19:28,540 --> 00:19:32,740 do all that work again and I think that's pretty silly no you don't want 194 00:19:32,740 --> 00:19:36,220 to recreate a weblog no of course not but that's exactly the infrastructure we 195 00:19:36,220 --> 00:19:42,500 want to publish well okay so you've got let's go through this WordPress sounds 196 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:44,980 like they're gonna do it but they already have an including well they already 197 00:19:44,980 --> 00:19:49,780 have been closure support running right and I have half of it in Manila okay 198 00:19:49,780 --> 00:19:53,820 that's yeah part of what I did for secrets that scripting.com yeah I'd love to 199 00:19:53,820 --> 00:19:57,620 have that code I don't have the user interface I'll give you the code okay 200 00:19:57,620 --> 00:20:01,340 great yeah but first let me put a user interface on it so that you can like 201 00:20:01,340 --> 00:20:05,660 type the URL and then so you don't have to go into web edit and put it in 202 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:09,140 there because that's the way I have to do it right now okay you know that's that's 203 00:20:09,140 --> 00:20:15,220 not a very convenient way yeah that's not that's not gonna go but it's very the 204 00:20:15,220 --> 00:20:19,580 easy part I think is the user interface though the hard part was figuring out 205 00:20:19,580 --> 00:20:23,060 how to fit it in well wouldn't you do it just like it's like really that's 206 00:20:23,060 --> 00:20:27,500 Manila I'm sorry I was gonna say wouldn't you do it just like radio user 207 00:20:27,500 --> 00:20:33,700 language yeah sure it's very much like radio use but it's Manila because 208 00:20:33,740 --> 00:20:39,300 Manila is you know a different model it's a dynamic content management system 209 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:43,540 whereas radio you know it's the question of deep frying versus baking Manila is 210 00:20:43,540 --> 00:20:48,860 deep fried radio is baked but um what was I gonna say so you've got radio you've 211 00:20:48,860 --> 00:20:54,020 got we're gonna have Manila soon movable type probably should they should do it 212 00:20:54,020 --> 00:21:00,540 I don't know Brent sort of did I Brent did I did a half-ass job I mean on what 213 00:21:00,580 --> 00:21:05,940 on net news on the other side actually okay on the publishing side right I don't 214 00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:10,140 know what he is so scared of I you know he's been saying that for the longest time 215 00:21:10,140 --> 00:21:15,020 that it freaks him out this idea of downloading enclosures but really well 216 00:21:15,020 --> 00:21:19,020 they now support it he did you see the post I pointed to yeah of course I did 217 00:21:19,020 --> 00:21:22,300 but it wasn't well you know it wasn't he didn't he didn't actually put it in 218 00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:29,060 he said here's how you do it right but why not put it I don't I don't know I 219 00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:33,100 don't know a lot easier for him to put it it's a lot easier for him to put it in 220 00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:38,540 yeah you to hack it up with an apple script yeah oh just trying to avoid some 221 00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:45,140 kind of support issue really well I mean you know I don't know it may be 222 00:21:45,140 --> 00:21:50,060 valid no it's okay can you just talk a little more into the mic Dave so we can 223 00:21:50,060 --> 00:21:53,780 just all hear you at home it's like totally right up to my mouth can you 224 00:21:53,820 --> 00:22:01,180 just stick it in a little further anyway so like I'm already saying politically 225 00:22:01,180 --> 00:22:07,180 incorrect things here you know it's okay yeah well the other thing I wanted to 226 00:22:07,180 --> 00:22:10,300 say about Brent's thing is why the hell doesn't he give some credit tech some 227 00:22:10,300 --> 00:22:15,100 LRPC you know and to the meta-weblog API which made all of that stuff in Marz 228 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:20,100 edit possible yeah I mean this guy goes out of his way to make nice to the 229 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:25,140 atom people like not go out of his way to be nice to the meta-weblog API people 230 00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:28,660 so you want you what you want is you want a credit line well I'd love him to 231 00:22:28,660 --> 00:22:32,580 say that hey you know the technology works these guys did a great job if it 232 00:22:32,580 --> 00:22:36,620 weren't for what they had done I wouldn't be able to do this you know and 233 00:22:36,620 --> 00:22:39,460 he's out there taking the credit for it everybody goes well Brent's a great 234 00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:42,980 guy and Brent is a great guy why he's a great integrator is that you know but 235 00:22:42,980 --> 00:22:46,380 he's building on the work of other people and he has really gone out of his 236 00:22:46,380 --> 00:22:49,900 way to praise the atom people and I don't know why he doesn't now 237 00:22:49,900 --> 00:22:54,100 you know he likes to say he's being fair right but no it's fair would be to say 238 00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:59,500 I'm not really using any of the atom guys stuff here but can I just ask why do 239 00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:04,020 you care yeah that's what I keep sitting myself really why I mean let me let me 240 00:23:04,020 --> 00:23:09,660 give a perfect example so all of a sudden iPod are takes off right and and it's 241 00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:14,340 great because I'm I'm being credited in on web logs and being credible but let 242 00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:19,260 me hear me out for a second I'm being credited just about I sure hope it's 243 00:23:19,260 --> 00:23:24,820 recording my voice now he's getting ready to say something he wants everybody 244 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:28,660 here wait no of course it's got to be recording it might not be recording 245 00:23:28,660 --> 00:23:31,620 hold on let me just check I want to make sure so everyone can hear what I have 246 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:36,180 to say god damn it hold on well while you were waiting I'll tell you why I 247 00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:41,060 care okay there's there's first the irrational reasons okay which 248 00:23:41,060 --> 00:23:45,780 unfortunately exist okay and then there are the rational reasons and let's I 249 00:23:45,780 --> 00:23:50,100 don't you know the irrational ones is like you work your ass off and you pay the 250 00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:55,140 price physically and lifestyle wise yeah and then it's working by the way I'm 251 00:23:55,140 --> 00:23:59,700 sorry it's like people to say hey thanks that was good work you know I know I 252 00:23:59,700 --> 00:24:03,780 understand so let me just finish my thought all right let me finish my thought 253 00:24:03,780 --> 00:24:08,940 so of course and I'm and I get credited into code even I'm getting 254 00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:12,500 credited it's fabulous I love it I'm not used to that by the way because 255 00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:18,980 usually it's like it's like the Adam Curry from VH1 thing that I just told you 256 00:24:18,980 --> 00:24:22,060 about right and that's gonna happen and these guys were well and you know their 257 00:24:22,060 --> 00:24:24,820 intentions were I think we're pretty good they were actually were you should 258 00:24:24,820 --> 00:24:27,820 listen to that when you hear the Gilmore gang you'll you'll understand what I'm 259 00:24:27,820 --> 00:24:32,300 saying and they really meant well but even that it's like yeah that bothers 260 00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:38,780 you but at the end of the day you know all right seriously it's like you know 261 00:24:38,940 --> 00:24:43,420 you can't go you people either give you credit you can't say you owe me credit 262 00:24:43,420 --> 00:24:48,380 just doesn't work that way I didn't say that no but you know you said I wish 263 00:24:48,380 --> 00:24:53,300 that yeah I do and there's the okay I was starting to say there's the semi 264 00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:58,500 irrational reasons for it which I think are perfectly legitimate and then there 265 00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:02,020 are the rational reasons which is that basically you get written out of the 266 00:25:02,020 --> 00:25:06,340 record and then you can't do it again in other words every time you try to do 267 00:25:06,340 --> 00:25:10,540 something new basically you face the same obstacles you face the first time 268 00:25:10,540 --> 00:25:14,340 you tried to do something new if you don't get credit for your successes then 269 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:18,140 people don't say well maybe this guy knows what he's talking about because he 270 00:25:18,140 --> 00:25:22,500 did X Y and Z and believe me that happens all the time I mean people come 271 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:26,980 in and take credit for what I've done and they get to do it again but I don't 272 00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:32,860 and well but I'll give it a very frustrating I'll give an example here's 273 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:43,500 something interesting so now forget it that's too long of an example like if 274 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:48,540 you do it if you try it you know when you start doing something like this you 275 00:25:48,540 --> 00:25:54,580 know like meta-web blog API or XMRPC you say things like well you know I just 276 00:25:54,580 --> 00:25:58,940 want this stuff to happen I don't really care how it happens right you know so 277 00:25:58,940 --> 00:26:02,380 to be consistent with that you'd have to say well you know I said it then I 278 00:26:02,380 --> 00:26:07,220 should mean it now right yeah so I understand that and in fact I see Brett 279 00:26:07,220 --> 00:26:10,700 saying some of those things like where he says he really likes the guy who writes 280 00:26:10,700 --> 00:26:16,140 Ecto and this and that yeah and I go to myself boy is he said because these guys 281 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:20,140 are gonna nail his ass for what why because they get because that's what 282 00:26:20,140 --> 00:26:25,220 happened to me basically I said to some of these guys oh are no one owns RSS you 283 00:26:25,220 --> 00:26:31,180 know what they heard what they heard yeah they heard I own RSS that's the 284 00:26:31,180 --> 00:26:34,540 way the human brain works man that's the way it works right that's what 285 00:26:34,540 --> 00:26:39,100 Britain's walking right into so you know I mean anyway I think that you know so 286 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:43,620 what you should say check this out check this out is you should say I do not 287 00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:47,380 want any recognition I just don't want it you know I don't want the 288 00:26:47,380 --> 00:26:50,940 recognition because you know it's just it's too much attention I don't want it 289 00:26:50,940 --> 00:26:54,260 for people please don't do stop doing that stop giving me attention or 290 00:26:54,260 --> 00:26:59,140 recognition I you know I'm almost there basically what happened was after I 291 00:26:59,140 --> 00:27:02,940 got sick two years ago I decided I'm not doing this stuff for anybody but 292 00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:08,980 myself anymore I stopped releasing it I really did it was basically I said whoops 293 00:27:08,980 --> 00:27:13,540 for these guys you said what they don't appreciate so why am I working so hard 294 00:27:13,540 --> 00:27:18,100 these guys they don't appreciate it they don't they never say thank you they 295 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:21,260 don't give me credit for it I said the hell with it I'm not gonna anymore and 296 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:25,100 I don't I I have a new content management system that I use I'm sorry I 297 00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:30,180 myself and I'm happy and you know maybe I'll share it with my friends but I'm not 298 00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:34,660 going to you know be believe me the world's got to straighten this thing out 299 00:27:34,660 --> 00:27:38,620 it's got to learn how to value generosity and you know I've had this talk with 300 00:27:38,620 --> 00:27:43,340 lexic and lexic is just getting to get this I think yeah he sent me an email 301 00:27:43,340 --> 00:27:46,060 the other day said well have you patented any of this stuff because we're 302 00:27:46,060 --> 00:27:50,540 patented here and I said no Larry it's against my religion he basically came 303 00:27:50,540 --> 00:27:55,540 back and said that's a good answer but why was he asking you know yeah and that was 304 00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:59,660 good he was asking Dave hold on hold on let me let's just reconnect one second 305 00:27:59,660 --> 00:28:05,260 because now you're giving the robo-cop on me one second 306 00:28:10,260 --> 00:28:17,700 yeah okay all right beautiful right so blessing anyway so they were talking 307 00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:23,340 about iPodder yeah you got to hear it and it's funny because they tried to talk 308 00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:30,300 about Sun and their you know they're paid by the cycle hour offering well they 309 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:36,980 kept drifting back to iPodder and at the end of like at the end of the show they're 310 00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:39,540 like oh we were really all over the map you know we were talking about so many 311 00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:45,380 different things yeah iPodder it was great and then there's like you know it's 312 00:28:45,420 --> 00:28:48,100 like and they were trying to find it they're all online you she got to listen to 313 00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:51,820 this yeah it's like iPodder dr. Earl says I can't find it just take me to Adam 314 00:28:51,820 --> 00:28:55,620 Curry's web log and said no no it's iPodder.org.org you know they're all 315 00:28:55,620 --> 00:29:00,100 trying.com let me let me get my two cents in it's one of the most successful 316 00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:07,220 development projects on the net in the last few years really maybe because what 317 00:29:07,220 --> 00:29:12,020 happens is these stupid mail lists get so bogged down with all these people who 318 00:29:12,020 --> 00:29:15,340 know better and they want to go back and redo you had working five years 319 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:22,220 and they are so persistent they have so much time did you see have you seen Steve 320 00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:27,660 Garfield's contributions to the iPodder dev list no oh it's great he's a total 321 00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:32,860 user 100% is great he's like this shit's I don't understand that it's fucked up 322 00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:36,220 it's downloading things it shouldn't I don't get it and people are all over and 323 00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:39,300 trying to help him you know setting them up getting new releases out it's 324 00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:43,740 the idea it's supposed to be downloading shit all the time right yeah well yeah but 325 00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:47,940 you know there was this one of the concerns that we that everyone had of 326 00:29:47,940 --> 00:29:51,660 course was you know you have these these beautiful iPod are set up with default 327 00:29:51,660 --> 00:29:55,260 feeds or even if you just add a new feed you know if someone's like radio user 328 00:29:55,260 --> 00:30:01,220 land I think my default is 25 items in an RSS feed you know times 15 to 30 329 00:30:01,220 --> 00:30:06,260 megs hello so what we've come up with now is it's configurable but the 330 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:10,940 default is it downloads the last three items and then on the next run it'll 331 00:30:10,940 --> 00:30:15,380 download the three before that and the next run the three before that until it's 332 00:30:15,380 --> 00:30:21,460 saturated which maybe it shouldn't download all the things in the feed maybe it 333 00:30:21,460 --> 00:30:26,020 should only start downloading with things that are new after you subscribe well I 334 00:30:26,020 --> 00:30:29,180 think that everyone's putting the the options in and the preferences but the 335 00:30:29,180 --> 00:30:32,660 question is what is the default what matter what's the default going to be 336 00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:37,220 all that matters yeah exactly cuz you're first of all you're controlling first 337 00:30:37,220 --> 00:30:40,860 time behavior yeah and that's that's what we're screwing up right now yeah fuck 338 00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:46,180 around with the yeah we're still screwing that up a little bit right now so we 339 00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:50,220 decided to call it mobile blogging and get inside step all the history fitting 340 00:30:50,220 --> 00:30:56,020 and that seems that seems like a fair like a like a good yeah did you see that 341 00:30:56,180 --> 00:31:03,180 mobile blogging video clip I posted today you're gone again really this sucks 342 00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:10,620 but you're back okay see the thing was did you see the the mobile blogging 343 00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:16,460 video clip I posted today I pointed to it oh it's very cool it's two guys that 344 00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:22,020 the driving from LA to New York in a convertible and they had a camera on 345 00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:26,700 the back of the car and they did a stop frame so in four minutes you travel with 346 00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:32,460 them from LA to New York it's beautiful I think I have seen that but it would be 347 00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:35,700 worth seeing that's beautiful that is beautiful I've wanted that it's really 348 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:41,580 nice traveling cross-country yeah well you this is exactly what they did 349 00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:47,420 I gotta turn your volume up a little bit well I don't think Skype is the 350 00:31:47,420 --> 00:31:51,380 answer I don't know it's and I was just about to say because what Skype does 351 00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:56,340 very well is the the voice quality but when it comes to keeping the connection 352 00:31:56,340 --> 00:32:01,940 we've had much better success with the eye chat and aim yeah that people told me 353 00:32:01,940 --> 00:32:06,300 that I was breaking up on I chat though I chat name they weren't 354 00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:09,260 complaining that much they were sort of saying it kind of worked you know what 355 00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:12,500 it is at the end of the day when you're listening to AM radio you get used to 356 00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:17,660 it well you know what we need is we need somebody who does voiceover IP they 357 00:32:17,660 --> 00:32:22,220 can work with us yeah and you know cuz I think we have enough hardware here we 358 00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:27,260 have both have reasonably good internet connections right yeah well here's the 359 00:32:27,260 --> 00:32:32,180 next thing that the next application I've been dicking around with which may 360 00:32:32,180 --> 00:32:37,980 give us better results is you familiar with the free world dial-up you ever 361 00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:42,900 heard of that no remember Jeff Pulver you've probably seen his name around yeah 362 00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:48,660 Paul he was I know who he was the supernova guy could cover he was the guy 363 00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:52,220 that was the company that sponsored supernova yeah he's he's been around for a 364 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:58,220 long time is that right yeah I think so so he started free world dial-up which 365 00:32:58,220 --> 00:33:04,100 is essentially a voiceover IP network and you can connect to it for free you 366 00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:09,660 can download the basic software for free and you know what they're going to be 367 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:14,420 offering is what everyone else is going to be offering or is offering is numbers 368 00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:19,580 you can rent virtual numbers so someone can dial a new york number and get your 369 00:33:19,580 --> 00:33:26,140 your connection yeah but also point-to-point so why don't you download 370 00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:32,780 from free world dial-up dot com hold on let me go there yeah you want to 371 00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:39,820 download the x10 client it comes to a preconfigured you have to register that's 372 00:33:39,820 --> 00:33:47,660 not a big deal free world dial-up dot com yeah this is good let's just let's do 373 00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:50,900 this I don't want to try to download it while we're on 374 00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:55,860 pussy well that'll screw up screw up skype who knows skype is screwed up 375 00:33:55,860 --> 00:34:03,500 enough okay I mean like it's gonna make any difference my account well you know 376 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,860 I'm gonna have to put this thinking microphone down now you know I have to 377 00:34:06,860 --> 00:34:13,140 create an account oh damn well I don't know what to do well you aren't gonna be 378 00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:18,940 able to hear me that's for sure okay I hear is a button that says FWD that 379 00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:24,460 must be it right I don't know that's good marketing if it works yeah get FWD 380 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:29,860 phone now you want to preconfigured heart I don't really want no no no you just want 381 00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:35,580 the free x10 client and you'd be yeah you have to sign up well excuse me where 382 00:34:35,580 --> 00:34:42,780 the fuck would that be I've been watching the sopranos too much yeah really we 383 00:34:42,780 --> 00:34:48,100 have the fuck would that be hold on let me see free world so I hear they were 384 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:52,620 talking about iPod run I see conversations no kidding 385 00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:59,740 who was doing the talking that's what Steve actually started it off yeah he's 386 00:34:59,740 --> 00:35:05,500 got to have major wood about iPod yeah he he but he scyped me the other day and I 387 00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:09,180 wasn't around and I scyped him back although it said it was online it 388 00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:13,020 either didn't go through or he didn't answer and he said at the end of the 389 00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:16,940 show that next week they were gonna talk about iPod or iPod platform etc so I 390 00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:21,940 was hoping that he was calling to have me on the show that'd be cool so if I go 391 00:35:21,940 --> 00:35:26,540 to sort of like everything in one that would be daily source code yeah that 392 00:35:26,540 --> 00:35:31,380 would be what we would call an integrated app download it now use it today did 393 00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:38,420 that not catch your eye Dave right in the middle of the page oh there it is 394 00:35:38,420 --> 00:35:43,300 that big blob of purple because excuse me they have lots of crap like that I'm 395 00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:47,260 this is one of those pages where they're all different departments got the loop 396 00:35:47,260 --> 00:35:53,060 and though we need a big purple blob here it's the purple download blob they're 397 00:35:53,060 --> 00:36:02,260 about 18 of them okay so IP phone light is that it which one do I want hold on 398 00:36:02,260 --> 00:36:07,060 hold on excuse me you know I'm windows right I'm not Mac yeah it does it does 399 00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:11,780 windows so I want the FWD one that's the first one in the list that's what 400 00:36:11,780 --> 00:36:22,180 you always get let me just see the IP phone no no no hold on hold on you want the 401 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:27,500 FWD X light X light good thing I asked okay yeah so then we'll have the same 402 00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:31,940 client oh this will be interesting all right I'm running it oh that was quick 403 00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:37,420 did you look did you have an account well won't work without an account I'm 404 00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:43,380 just doing what I told you to sign up you did not yeah then you said I'll need two 405 00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:50,260 hands to do that yeah stop downloading porn with the program really get with the 406 00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:57,460 program I'm watching Katie Wallace on CNN that's porn yeah not really you know what 407 00:36:57,460 --> 00:37:08,660 sucks you know what sucks about I'm using walls no audio hijack pro that I'm 408 00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:15,340 using to record so it can record from any application but only if that application 409 00:37:15,340 --> 00:37:22,460 is actually sending audio data and so Skype whenever you homeless whenever 410 00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:25,620 you're quiet like you are right now then it basically is not sending out any 411 00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:31,700 audio and and just for a split second if it doesn't receive the it should have like 412 00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:37,140 a time gate on it for a split second if the audio is gone then it then basically 413 00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:42,340 the connection shuts down and my mic channel still stays active but then for 414 00:37:42,340 --> 00:37:46,220 some reason it goes into there just did it goes into delay mode then I hear 415 00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:51,100 myself delayed by about half a second on my headphones and I have to stop the 416 00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:55,660 mic and start it again it's very irritating yeah that's no you know when 417 00:37:55,660 --> 00:37:59,860 dr. Dave was talking on your show yesterday yeah you could hear that that the 418 00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:04,140 software he was using was dropping out the blank periods oh well he wasn't he 419 00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:08,180 wasn't using what he did is he pre-recorded this I know who dr. Dave is 420 00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:11,900 this is one of these guys and I love him you know he's probably well I don't 421 00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:15,220 want to guess his age doesn't matter he sits at home he's got a studio he's 422 00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:20,940 got a ISDN box and ad companies movie companies you know people call him 423 00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:26,460 up and they say okay and you just like the Jerry Seinfeld trailer for his movie 424 00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:32,180 and the guy goes in a world where women wear comfortable shoes and aren't 425 00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:38,380 lesbians that kind of stuff and he I'm sure that he recorded his bit and then 426 00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:42,900 edited it because I heard some either he edited it by hand or indeed he had a 427 00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:46,660 silent stripper just mushed it all together you could hear it it was 428 00:38:46,660 --> 00:38:52,820 awful yeah there was the big radio sound it was beautiful really it is the big 429 00:38:52,820 --> 00:38:56,740 radio sound yeah it's kind of like at the end of the car commercials where they 430 00:38:56,740 --> 00:39:00,300 tell you all the different little legalities and yeah your results may 431 00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:12,380 vary due to road and weather conditions so have you registered yet no I only have 432 00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:19,300 one hand here can I register I don't even know where to register I said look for the 433 00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:32,580 blob I'm looking that was funny that was the marketing department get FWD that 434 00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:38,180 that's what I clicked on sign up that's a sign up sign up right all right the step 435 00:39:38,180 --> 00:39:43,900 one is purchase pre-configured hardware or download blah blah blah got that yeah okay 436 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:49,580 great plug in your phone to install your software and you did that I thought you 437 00:39:49,580 --> 00:39:55,460 installed it I thought it was running oh jeal install this this free world 438 00:39:55,460 --> 00:40:00,900 dial-up crap from unknown IP excuse me excuse me I'm busy accepting the 439 00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:06,220 agreement I'll call you back I read the whole thing 440 00:40:06,220 --> 00:40:16,460 okay this is great it says welcome play free world dial-up blah blah blah blah 441 00:40:16,460 --> 00:40:20,300 next okay thanks 442 00:40:21,860 --> 00:40:30,940 yeah man yo buddy him well that that was fun yeah that was about 45 minutes of 443 00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:37,060 dicking around my side works because I've there's a whole bunch of numbers you 444 00:40:37,060 --> 00:40:40,940 can call you can call service numbers and it'll give you the weather and the 445 00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:45,060 time and it has a voice activated system and there's a call back and an echo 446 00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:49,140 check and all kinds of great stuff and did you have to go through all this shit 447 00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:54,220 that I had to go through even worse it's a it's so fucking stupid I mean why do 448 00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:57,420 they do this this way why don't they like test it with human beings well I 449 00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:02,620 think it it well there's a the Windows version that you downloaded it comes 450 00:41:02,620 --> 00:41:05,580 pre-configured and that's right because you had all the information already 451 00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:11,300 stored in there right it was wrong what what do you mean it was wrong it 452 00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:14,980 didn't work well okay right but that doesn't mean that that doesn't mean the 453 00:41:14,980 --> 00:41:19,180 information was wrong because I'm using the same in from it no it doesn't and 454 00:41:19,180 --> 00:41:23,820 your your setup is different from what they expect that's probably what it is I 455 00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:28,460 have a clue for you though Skype worked the first time no problem yeah I know I 456 00:41:28,460 --> 00:41:34,020 know so somebody figured it out yeah yeah yeah isn't it funny how that works I 457 00:41:34,020 --> 00:41:39,660 mean you know it's really too bad because the the x10 client now of course we 458 00:41:39,660 --> 00:41:43,100 don't know how it sounds but it keeps the audio hijack pro running 459 00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:47,740 hold on it keeps it running the minute you activate it then it just keeps its 460 00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:51,260 audio channels open doesn't cut off so I don't get that crappy delay so it'd be 461 00:41:51,260 --> 00:41:55,300 nice really yeah it'd be really nice so we could so it's better technology then 462 00:41:55,300 --> 00:42:00,140 no no I wouldn't say that at all I haven't heard the voice quality yet so 463 00:42:00,140 --> 00:42:03,380 far this the systems which are all automated that I've called which are 464 00:42:03,380 --> 00:42:10,220 computer voices I was not blown away by let me just see now you're slowing down 465 00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:16,380 again you're like really like you're going through no you're better now what 466 00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:25,780 were you saying about Skype only 1015 in the morning and I'm burned out to Chris 467 00:42:25,780 --> 00:42:30,300 just I hate farting around software Adam I've spent a whole life I gave my whole 468 00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:36,740 life for this I know all I want is it to work but it'll be so worth it if we 469 00:42:36,740 --> 00:42:42,260 can get it to work all right well next time we'll figure this one out yeah okay so 470 00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:48,700 what are we gonna do I would stick now sorry yeah go ahead well I was gonna say 471 00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:53,460 what are we gonna do we're gonna try and do a trade secrets during the the VP 472 00:42:53,460 --> 00:43:00,500 debate well I think we better do another dry run okay like this one because just to 473 00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:06,580 see if well Skype is clearly not the answer because the call quality is 474 00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:11,500 I've got to talk first of all you've got to get me a description for your blogger 475 00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:15,980 concession yeah I told you this weekend I promised you this week yeah well 476 00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:20,220 there's a weekend over look I even I can even go nine hours into Monday and 477 00:43:20,220 --> 00:43:27,140 still get it to you by the way you know this is like I gotta like get the 478 00:43:27,140 --> 00:43:31,260 violins like running conferences you know when I was at the Skobals the other 479 00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:35,140 night these are both ex-conference givers you know Skobal has had a whole 480 00:43:35,140 --> 00:43:38,860 career doing this and you know I said you know there's nothing you can do to get 481 00:43:38,860 --> 00:43:43,620 people to sort of like like realize that there's only one person managing this 482 00:43:43,620 --> 00:43:48,820 whole stinking conference and you know they'll never realize of course not no 483 00:43:48,820 --> 00:43:52,420 but it's the point is it's another one of those deals where I don't think I'm 484 00:43:52,420 --> 00:43:58,020 doing this again you know when they say hey you want to do a conference all I 485 00:43:58,020 --> 00:44:02,900 remember is the good shit you know what I mean hey hold on I just got what what 486 00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:09,580 does error 407 mean that's what you were getting right yeah this isn't oh yeah 487 00:44:09,580 --> 00:44:15,020 it's under the troubleshooting tips this is an authentication error this occurs 488 00:44:15,020 --> 00:44:18,580 most often when your password in your phone configuration does not match the 489 00:44:18,580 --> 00:44:24,380 only the one currently assigned to the FWD number you must use the password 490 00:44:24,380 --> 00:44:28,220 you've chosen for your FWD account note that if you change your password through 491 00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:30,900 the my account section of the free roll dial-up website you must have a 492 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:36,740 so maybe you typed your password it changed my password maybe but yet you 493 00:44:36,740 --> 00:44:42,660 typed it into the phone right something like that how do I change my password I 494 00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:47,100 guess it's right here hold on we don't want to change it you want it you want 495 00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:50,820 to make sure that well I remember what I typed I mean yeah it's not like it's 496 00:44:50,820 --> 00:44:54,860 you know I you know how it works right I gave these guys my low security 497 00:44:55,820 --> 00:45:01,620 the one that basically that's right I might as well just say what it is right 498 00:45:01,620 --> 00:45:06,420 because like everybody listening to this I have no don't do that don't everyone's 499 00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:13,260 diving into their Manila websites what's Dave's password they can hijack your 500 00:45:13,260 --> 00:45:21,220 phone number oh exactly it's the wickified version 501 00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:35,220 you like I hate it no I'm only kidding oh hey phone like even even phones aren't 502 00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:41,020 this difficult to operate this is really horrible I mean it looks just like a 503 00:45:41,020 --> 00:45:49,820 phone with a metal brush oops and by the way that's why I spent $3,000 on a 504 00:45:49,820 --> 00:45:55,500 what I'm a laptop so I could get a cell phone but it's free once it works it's free 505 00:45:55,500 --> 00:46:04,460 Dave oh free as in beer oh well so did you do your password I have not found a 506 00:46:04,460 --> 00:46:12,020 place to put my password okay it's on you you guys got shit I totally know how 507 00:46:12,020 --> 00:46:16,340 to get to the menu okay I got the menus down right under user setting a system 508 00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:24,980 settings system system settings yeah system settings okay very nice network no I'm 509 00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:34,100 sorry wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong okay wrong bing bing bing bing bing bing bing 510 00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:42,860 your time is up shut up the correct answer is be quiet Dave tell her to shut up I'm 511 00:46:42,860 --> 00:46:47,700 not gonna say that to my daughter oh you're a horrible man oh yeah you're a 512 00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:58,500 childless man yes I can tell what Christina yeah exactly oh man this is 513 00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:05,260 you're like Uncle Uncle Dave is like you're like Uncle Ernie from Tommy now 514 00:47:05,260 --> 00:47:11,380 where the fuck is the here to my sip username we got all that where's the 515 00:47:11,420 --> 00:47:17,340 goddamn password yeah it's just crazy so much for Uncle Ernie right wait a minute 516 00:47:17,340 --> 00:47:21,980 wait this is this is nuts yeah tell me about it hold on now I don't think you 517 00:47:21,980 --> 00:47:27,340 can change your password yes you can I've done it I think once set you are like 518 00:47:27,340 --> 00:47:34,340 no no no don't tell me that I don't think you get to change it now that's crap 519 00:47:34,340 --> 00:47:38,340 that's horse crap hold on maybe the phone book maybe we have to go to the 520 00:47:38,660 --> 00:47:47,980 oh man I hope Jeff Palmer hears this this is I mean we're smart guys right oh yeah 521 00:47:47,980 --> 00:47:53,340 I don't feel so smart right now call setting makes me feel so this is my 522 00:47:53,340 --> 00:47:57,380 favorite thing about software but yeah how when I feel too smart I just launch 523 00:47:57,380 --> 00:48:04,260 some software and I'm right away this is horrible it's really good I understand 524 00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:16,940 proxy default oh registering hold on oh no I heard it work okay what did it work I 525 00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:23,540 don't know you said proxy registering well I hit something what's your what's 526 00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:26,660 your number what's your number the same difference same difference what's your 527 00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:37,500 number oh number is 495297 it's not gonna work call up Kevin we're back he works 528 00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:41,700 for the pulver guy what or I mean he does that they did the supernova 529 00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:47,820 conference yeah pulver communications Jeff over yeah yeah right okay that you're 530 00:48:47,820 --> 00:48:52,820 still not on was a women did you find your password yeah a whole lot of things 531 00:48:53,140 --> 00:48:57,680 this is gonna piss me off yeah what'd you do what I did was 532 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:07,860 I went to to the green phone icon and right clicked on it really it's a proxy 533 00:49:07,860 --> 00:49:14,140 proxies turned on maybe I want proxy turned on maybe I don't know but I don't 534 00:49:14,140 --> 00:49:17,620 do I have that let me see if I have a proxy still turned on no matter what 535 00:49:18,340 --> 00:49:24,140 that's an audio tuning wizard welcome to know you don't want that oh diagnostic 536 00:49:24,140 --> 00:49:30,460 diagnostic log where's that oh I have that if I right click under the green dial 537 00:49:30,460 --> 00:49:39,620 button oh shit and I get audio tuning wizard diagnostic log I don't see 538 00:49:39,620 --> 00:49:43,420 anything like that okay well that's not what you want to be you want to be in 539 00:49:43,740 --> 00:49:51,460 your menu now this is so fucking crazy I was here I did this how come I can't find 540 00:49:51,460 --> 00:49:58,580 the man my Mac is freaking out too I have a little thing here that says AC is that 541 00:49:58,580 --> 00:50:04,380 wouldn't be your initials what it yeah what's it for AC say that I called you 542 00:50:04,380 --> 00:50:10,420 no it's just the black and it's flashing red AC so you know there's another 543 00:50:10,540 --> 00:50:14,340 hurricane going to Florida I heard about that there's already all kinds of RSS 544 00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:19,620 feeds that track it I gotta post that yeah yeah anyway so what you just didn't 545 00:50:19,620 --> 00:50:26,460 hear was a whole bunch of crap where it didn't work it was it was like an what 546 00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:35,700 was it an hour and a half of fucking crap crap all right yeah exactly nothing 547 00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:39,020 nothing at all important I mean I'm gonna leave it running though Dave because I 548 00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:42,700 know that what you know when when you have you on your lunch break you're gonna 549 00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:46,940 immediately just dive into it here's how it works you know how you do a crossword 550 00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:52,180 puzzle and you go away from it and you come back and you find five different 551 00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:56,900 moves that you just didn't see before yeah that's what this is like okay all right 552 00:50:56,900 --> 00:51:00,980 Adam it was a pleasure talking with you as usual it will likewise it was 553 00:51:00,980 --> 00:51:05,380 just very ad hoc but let's let's see if we can get something working with that 554 00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:12,140 X10 phone if it does otherwise I want to do the you said it was tomorrow night no 555 00:51:12,140 --> 00:51:16,060 when was it Monday night we'll check it out no it's definitely not gonna be Monday 556 00:51:16,060 --> 00:51:20,540 night it'll be tomorrow night probably I'll check it out okay but yeah it'll be 557 00:51:20,540 --> 00:51:23,180 so that'll be Monday morning for me so we got to kind of figure out what the time 558 00:51:23,180 --> 00:51:28,140 is right like in the middle of the night for you yeah or early morning it'll 559 00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:34,980 probably be 3 p.m. here we'll find out six so be midnight my time yeah that'll 560 00:51:35,020 --> 00:51:39,420 be now it's all do but hey for in the name of science I'm happy to do this your 561 00:51:39,420 --> 00:51:46,860 scientist Adam that's why you have a PhD right in science anyway hey I'm gonna 562 00:51:46,860 --> 00:51:51,540 hit the tune let's get the fuck out of here I see a day