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Well, howdy everybody welcome to this

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It is Tuesday, September 28th, 2004.

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It's Tuesday afternoons, 5...

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an interesting day. On the phone a lot of people doing a lot of stuff. I kind of chilled

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out yesterday and Monday and all I did basically was record a really long source code. I went

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up to Breda not only for the stop off of my buddies at the Moroccan place but also went

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back to a premiere last night of a musical. Let's dial down the music a little bit.

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This is a musical done by a friend of ours, a big musical production that's called

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Love Me Just a Little Bit More and it's based on or not really based on, it's a story that

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uses all of the songs by this girl band from the 80s from Holland called The Dolly Dots.

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And I've forgotten how many songs they had made. Lots of albums and it was kind of

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like a grease. In the 80s you had grease which was about the 1950s. So this was pretty

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much 2004, almost 2005 and we're looking back at the 80s. It was a high school and

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but it was it was

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funny and it made me feel old on one hand but also it you know it made me laugh

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and it made me also proud of some of the leg well now I guess if you look at leg

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warmers and big hair and shoulder pads as the legacy of the 80s maybe we

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shouldn't be so proud but it was it was alright so I just kind of dicked around

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yesterday and today had to do a bit of business take care of some stuff make

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sure the empire is running right and been on the phone this morning I saw that

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Dave was online and I gave him a quick instant message and he said you know

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let's switch audio and so we did and I've learned by now that I've got to keep

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the record button handy because of all of a sudden you know we're getting into

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some interesting conversation and we'll say hey you know let's record this and

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Dave wanted to record it I don't know why but we did so a new trade

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secrets born a short one like 36

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The good news is we get the SIP phone stuff working but it was 3 a.m. where Dave was and

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he was over modulating and I knew I'd have to walk him through the mic levels and we

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were talking about something else.

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But it did work and all it really took on his end if you'll remember if you caught

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our trade secrets where we were trying to get that system working, the problem was

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Dave just had to reboot his machine.

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So he rebooted and it worked.

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But we got to work on the quality.

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I'm sure we can get it working but the good news is if we can get the SIP phone

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working I think with the free X10 Lite version I can conference three calls in

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together which means we could do a call-in show because we can set up a

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virtual phone number, we can set up a couple, I'll set up one in New York, in

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California and in the United Kingdom and then basically you dial that number

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if it's local to you which should be you know we should be able to pretty

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much get local service you know that should be local to a lot of people who

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listen to this and it shouldn't be too bad to call if you're someone.

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in the middle. And then that'll be routed through to my SIP phone. On one hand I'll be talking

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to Dave and then we can just conferencing, I guess, two more lines. And if I can't do

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it with the free version, then after some testing, after I'm convinced that this is

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going to work for us, then we'll do it. We'll buy a pro version or whatever. There's

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also this thing called the Asterix PBX, which is a software-based PBX. You can route

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calls and stuff all over the place. It's open source. It's beautiful. It also works

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on OSX. But I thought it was a little bit too much overkill for what we're trying to

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do. But as we progress, and as this coming Thursday, I think, we're going to try and

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do a trade secrets together. So I can't be a soliloquy, I guess, if it's

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together. Still word of the week, soliloquy. We're going to record a trade

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secrets while we're watching the presidential debate. And is it just me

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or is something wrong with Mac.com's email today? Because I think that,

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all of a sudden, just stop receiving mail. I forward my email from curry.com to

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adamcurry.com.

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And nothing's coming in.

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And the Surefire test is I went into the web browser, into the webmail, and sent an email

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to myself at www.mc.com from that address and it hasn't shown up.

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So I think something's wrong with Apple's email system, which bites.

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Where's the announcement?

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Put something on your web page.

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Come on.

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It can't be just my account.

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I'm sure.

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I hope not.

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Maybe it's filled up.

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Is there a way to see if your account?

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No, it's only 250 messages in there.

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No, it can't be filled up.

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Anyway, lots of clips and bits to play for you today.

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Lots of new stuff coming on the radar.

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Some exciting prospects to talk about today.

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And actually I wanted to just kick it off with some tunes because I haven't really

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had a chance to play anything today.

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And if you don't like it, skip it!

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Rock and roll, Hoochie-Coo, Rick Derringer.

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Boy.

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Yeah baby.

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Ended up there.

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All right.

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I keep wondering about what I want to, you know, what kind of songs I want to play in

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the source code and I always want to.

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Um, actually, who was that?

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I got an email about that because I'd asked, you know, do you really listen to the song

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What is crypt? Crypt says, I usually always skip the songs.

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By guess that's just my taste in music. Keep it up. See ya.

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Crypt. So, you know, it's like that's the beauty of this.

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If you don't like the song, just skip ahead.

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You know, it's gonna be three or four minutes later on in the show.

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Also, I've been, every single morning I scan the,

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as I go through my new shows playlist on my iTunes or on my iPod,

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depending where I am.

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The Blog Digger Media Feeds and The Feedster MP3 Feeds.

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And there's a lot of stuff that comes through there.

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There's some really wacky stuff too.

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And then some music shows up once in a while.

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Let's see what came in today.

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Some Fleetwood Mac live stuff.

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You know, the odd audio blog post,

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just that which is just titled as a number.

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Gosh, it's so sad.

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You know, there's so many really interesting things

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that just no way to trace the origin,

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because people don't put any kind of ID.

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metadata into their files and you're just like, I wish I could find where this came from.

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See what was the, there's some new IT conversations stuff came in which I haven't heard yet.

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A new memory lane with Halley suit, looking forward to that.

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Also something good on ITconversations.com which was open source in healthcare.

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It's about a 14, 15 minutes podcast.

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Interesting industry and if you're in open source definitely check that show out.

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Okay, let's switch over now to a good buddy of ours who's been sending stuff into the show

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and has been helping out with settings. It's our pal, Dr. Dave from Las Vegas.

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Dr. Dave, surely quite an audio professional.

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And he checked in again, sent us another voicemail. Here's Dr. Dave.

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Hello Adam, Dr. Dave from Las Vegas. I'd like to thank you for broadcasting my previous

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numerous replies and they've all been positive. It seems as though you have the ability to

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reach the outermost portions of the planet, both geographically and atmospherically.

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Yeah, well, and that's just with my hair, Dr. Dave. Wait until my ego comes up.

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An update on my email address. I've been attacked by spam people who are using my

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old email address as a return address, thus yielding

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emails a day most of them

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So, uh, I have changed the email address.

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Please take note, Dr. Dave-USA at cox.net.

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Also, Dr. Dave-USA at gmail.com.

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From Las Vegas, it's Dr. Dave Clear.

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Now, I love that.

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Dr. Dave, from Las Vegas, it's Dr. Dave Clear.

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All right, Dave, thanks very much, man.

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And I'm sure that you'll get all kinds of interesting email now.

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Now that we've played this on the source code.

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And check in once in a while, you know.

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Let us know what you're doing, what you're working on.

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And I like having all kinds of different voices on the show.

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And I do want to send out props to Mark Cantor for a second.

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I was going to mention that during the trade secret show that Dave and I cut this morning

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because something has been popping into my head for a while now.

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From a conversation I had many, many years ago when I was still living in the state

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and we had our company think new ideas.

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And I was hanging out with Mark, which is actually where I hooked up with Dave

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Weiner.

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And Mark and I, we fall in and out of love all the time.

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I think a lot of people do that with Mark.

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But he did say at one point, he said, Adam, what we need is we need someone to introduce

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this stuff, this new stuff that we're doing that we're creating.

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We need a VJ for the music videos of the internet.

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And when it comes to podcasting, I think that I'm fitting into some role similar to that.

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I'm liking it because people are sending me links to new shows and audio bits.

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I think there's so much more that we can do.

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And Mark said to me today, could someone put together a podcast of dinner music?

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So just basically a playlist, put together a playlist of dinner music.

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Now granted that's not exactly what we're doing with podcasting but wow, if you had a

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mixed list, not just something that, well yeah, really a mixed list.

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Make a beautiful mix.

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It could also be one podcast channel that has different songs in it.

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But it could be that or it could be...

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doing a...

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be, maybe that's only a one minute or a two minute podcast, but wow, I'd love to have that

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sitting in my queue, you know, in my playlist queue.

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Now, how do I come up with all that?

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It doesn't matter because right along with Dr. Dave, Dr. Dave, of course, you know, I

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had this visual of Dr. Dave.

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He's one of these guys with this, you know, the huge gonad voice and he does all the

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voice overs for the movies.

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Maybe you're like in a world where men are men and women are looking scared.

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You know, he just sits at home in his studio and people dial up with an ISDN and

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he cuts all these recordings and he may not even know what he's really doing

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him for.

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He's just doing it, you know, and it's a great way to make a living because

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he's basically podcasting for money.

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Something else we're going to talk about today, by the way.

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And I received a nice response and email from Tony Khan

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from WGBH in Boston.

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Remember, he's the one that sent me the 1-800 called dad.

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a sound clip from the morning stories and they're putting together a podcast feed. So

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he sent me a mail he said,

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which is great. And he also sent me another morning stories which relates to Dr. Dave and also

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the how politics work in America. I want you to listen to Fumfer Klackett for Senator.

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Bill, Bill, you all warmed up in there, Bill?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, what are we doing today, Larry?

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It's a last minute commercial for the Fumfer Klackett for Senator. You got this right there.

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Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right here.

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Okay, good. Let's do it. Hey, rollin' on Fumfer Klackett for Senate. Take one, make it, sing, baby.

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Fumfer Klackett, you know where he stands.

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Yeah, actually, I don't. But where does he stand, Larry?

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Uh, what difference is it?

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Well, there's a long list of issues here. Larry, am I supposed to sound

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former or against him?

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Uh, well, take one later.

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Fumfer Klackett, you know where he stands on taxes, abortion, the economy, condoms in the school.

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All right. Okay, now sound.

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for them. Okay.

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Fumferklacket. You know where he stands. On taxes. Abortion. The economy. Condoms in

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school. Beautiful. Okay now for the finish just read his name. What? Just Fumferklacket?

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Yeah. Fumferklacket. Oh what's gonna be on the screen?

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Well, it's early in the morning. A bird, a duck, a bus, a bus. His wife and dog are

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in the background. He's got a three-piece suit and a briefcase and he's taken out.

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That's beautiful Larry. So say his name. Fumferklacket.

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Uh, eat something Bill. Try saying his name like it's the answer to a question.

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You mean like what rhymes with the grimble gracket Fumferklacket?

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The only without the question. Try and...

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Who's the guy with the dbdis? Fumferklacket.

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Who got indicted for tax evasion last year? Fumferklacket.

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Great. What for?

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Who's probably not gonna pay his campaign bills? Fumferklacket.

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Oh, uh, say, listen Larry?

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Yeah.

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He is gonna pay, isn't he?

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Fumferklagget.

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Sure.

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Don't see me in the election.

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You later!

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Larry?

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Larry?

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Larry!

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Fumferklagget.

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Fumferklagget for Senator.

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So, uh, some stuff to think about there, huh?

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Isn't it interesting how the message changes with the tone of voice and with the music,

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thanks to WGBH, soon to have their own podcasting feed of these morning stories up, I'm sure.

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And I can't wait because I love them.

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This is great on my walk during the day.

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I don't really have a commute these days.

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Here's something that I heard Dave cut a coffee note about an interview that he did with...

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with Yahoo or about Yahoo, about Yahoo's new RSS service.

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linking to the podcast, Dave said, you know,

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I just did an interview with Yahoo, and I thought, you know,

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as it pertains even to podcasting.

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while the interviewer was interviewing.

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I want to talk about that for a second.

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This icon on your site.

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Do they know who I am? I mean...

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They should favor this one aggregator over all the other aggregators.

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or to even to, I would rather send them to Ampheddesk or, you know, or, you know, or

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That doesn't really make sense in the whole story, but that's kind of, that did

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give you an impression of what, you know, the tone of voice that Dave was using and he recorded that at night and listen to that because you'll like it and what he's talking about and it's good to understand what Yahoo was doing and actually how opportunistic they're being right now and the stuff that we've been building.

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But I wanted to touch back on what Dave said at the beginning of his podcast.

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He says, you know, I should have recorded that interview and I think I've said this before.

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I don't know if I wrote it on my web blog or if it wasn't in a source code.

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I mean, this stuff is like, you know, life and source code and trade secrets, all kinds of runs.

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It runs together.

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I don't know what who else.

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to what anymore. But I've done this successfully and I encourage anybody who's listening to

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this show who is interviewed by the media and most likely that will happen by a telephone.

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And I know that there are many of you who have been interviewed or are being interviewed

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and I know how disappointed you probably have been certainly after the first interview

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that you do, what really shows up in print. And I get interviewed all the time, me and

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my wife and I are well known in the Netherlands, very well known.

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to a journalist who wants to interview you, usually for print publication, because these

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are quote the most serious, right, that if you say, okay, you know, that's fine, but

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I also want to record the interview and I want to reserve the right to put that

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raw data out there on the internet. And they can't really object because nine times

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out of 10, the interviewer will be recording the conversation.

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conversation, even when they do a phone interview, they'll record the conversation.

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interview on the internet because I haven't, there was no need to.

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Just keep it safe.

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This guy's full of shit.

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a podcast feed of interviews that way.

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so that people could fact check me.

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You write something in a magazine.

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put up the sound file of the interview that you did

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so we can make our own decisions.

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that source code to go to that source file.

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Okay, we have, okay, all right,

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let's talk about money for a second.

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about Dave Slusher who was wondering

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should he take ads for his weblog.

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it's totally like weblogs.

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There's really no difference.

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We're using the same protocols to distribute it

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and to aggregate it.

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And it's total freedom of speech.

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You can do whatever you want.

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Do it whenever you want.

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than just using a web browser or a text editor

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or a blogging client, just writing words

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or something to a link.

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You have to figure out how to record something.

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Just like weblogging is not for everyone.

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you experience a podcast versus a weblog.

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to be in front of a computer. And I know you can be on a pocket PC and whatever, but you're

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making a concerted effort to read something. When you're reading something, you pretty much

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have to focus on that, which is why banner ads are so irritating. And I think that your

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mind wraps around that. I don't see banners anymore. I just don't see them. My mind

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a banner dimension size blob. I'm not just not going to look at that. That's why I think

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the other day when Dave and I were looking for the obvious login to that registration

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site for the Free World Dialup, the login button was a big oblong purple blob. It looked

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like a banner. I think Dave's mind parsed that out. Mine does.

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We've done that experiment recently. I think it's been going around the net a couple

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times where it's a total dyslexic paragraph, but the first and the last letter are

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in the correct spot as the correct letter and you can read it anyway even though

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it's all garbled. That's because of pattern recognition. So you know that was

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so far with the business model for web pages and web blogs and click-throughs

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and all that. You have to sit in front of the computer. You have to make that effort.

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Maybe you're at work so it's on someone else's time but still it's

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You can do nothing.

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to flip on your podcast and you're going to get the stuff that you want and it's

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going to be in the order that you want.

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My belief is that traditional commercials will happen.

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I think that right now I have about 1500 subscribers to the daily source code.

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That's not a big number.

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And if I went to Johnson and Johnson and said, hey, I'm going to sell your floor wax, these

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1500 people, they're going to say, very interesting, Adam, hey, by the way, can I have your autograph?

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My mom used to love watching on MTV.

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So that's not going to fly.

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Let me just take a very simple example here.

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organizer and I said, you know, you're making a conference and you charge people six, not

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that I'm supporting conferences, etc., but just as an example.

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I like the BloggerCon model myself.

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you know, I think you should advertise because I have 1500 people of which many are in

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the tech industry.

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Many will be in the neighborhood of your conference.

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money because they have an iPod or something like it and a computer and

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some type of broadband connection or access to one.

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This is a desirable demographic and I want you to pay me, I don't know, $5 a week

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or $500 a week.

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Let's say it's $500 a week and I can convince two people or three people

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a day to go to this conference because of this paid advertisement.

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That's worth it.

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They just made money.

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So it's the niche narrow casting.

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Croning saying, oh commercial commercial

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Advertisement, we'll just skip past it. Yeah, if it's fucking boring you will this is something that Dave has been saying for a long time

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Excuse me

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Dave has been saying for a long time, make the commercials.

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Interesting.

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Make it more interesting.

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We'll listen to them.

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We'll buy products.

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Of course we will.

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Just make it more interesting.

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We're so used to this, you know, the way you have to spit stuff on the screen and

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big letters and yell, you know.

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That's the old way of doing things and it's just not that valuable anymore.

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It's decreasing in value, I believe, unless you're in a commoditized product.

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The scrappy thing is that we're using this commoditized way of selling things to elect

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a president, but that's a different conversation and discussion altogether.

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So how do you make these commercials better?

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I'm not sure.

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I think what's very important is you have to know that you're being advertised to or

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being marketed to.

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And I always liked the way Howard Stern used to do the Snapple commercials.

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He made it interesting by bringing in naked women and doing stupid games.

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Whether you like that or not, that was a part of his show and his audience like that.

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And so then he'd say, I think Snapple's the best drink in the world.

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And he probably did.

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He might not have, but then he probably would have said, it's not the best drink,

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but look, we got great chicks so buy this.

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And then he basically made a deal with the listeners all the time.

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He would say, go and buy.

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buy our sponsors' products, please, keep the show on the air.

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So he's very honest about it, and that honesty I think will carry over and will work in this way.

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So as an example, how it could work, I don't think this is particularly a new and interesting commercial,

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but it's funny. It's funny because I know that Doug Kay, who sent it to me, who said,

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the devil made me do it. I know that he meant it in jest. The echo chamber you're about to hear,

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it's funny. Are we advertising a speedway or a conference here? There's an actual advertiser

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in this that I'm about to play for you. I'm not getting paid for this, but it could happen.

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Be there, be there, be there, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. That's great.

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You know, and that was a commercial. It didn't suck. You didn't skip past it.

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I know you didn't. You wanted to hear it. It'll be only interesting one time.

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You're not going to listen to the next commercial sounds just like that,

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but you were marketed to. You heard that Yahoo! was sponsoring the Geek Fest.

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rewind and you got it. So,

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watch out. I think there's something here. And again, and I know that people picked up on it.

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NAB, they're going to show up pretty soon. They're going to have some stuff to say. I know it.

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Okay, let's play something from the blog digger media feed. This is just so weird.

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I don't know what it is or where it came from, but, you know, and I think if I was listening to it,

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I might even skip over it. So, I'll tell you how long it is.

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is in case you want to. Three minutes and thirty seconds. It came in as only called Track 17,

461
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which is of course totally useless so I don't know where it came from. It sounds like part of

462
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it might be from a movie, maybe it is a movie. I've titled it, you know, Just Not Enough Cowbell.

463
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:07,500
And it sounds like Christopher Walken's in some of it. But listen to it and you know,

464
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it's just something different, something you won't hear anywhere else but on the source code.

465
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Don't fear the reap, take one, roll. Alright, one, two, three, four.

466
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Bruce, could you come in here for a second please?

467
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Guys, what's the deal?

468
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Are you sure that was sounding okay?

469
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I'll be honest, fellas, it was sounding great, but...

470
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I could have used a little more cowbell.

471
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Oh, it just hit me. This is Saturday Night Live. That's what it's for.

472
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I got to have more Cabra!

473
00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:15,500
I got to have more...

474
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I could've used a little more cowbell.

475
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You're gonna want that cowbell!

476
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[ Music ]

477
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Coward!

478
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Guess what?

479
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I got a fever!

480
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And the only prescription is more cowards!

481
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I gotta have more cowards!

482
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[ Music ]

483
00:33:55,500 --> 00:34:02,500
The last time I checked we have a whole lot of songs that feature the Kalvass.

484
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:16,500
I guess I'm locked out.

485
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Yes, what?

486
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I can't believe it!

487
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And the only question is what's happening?

488
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:42,000
So I guess that was a Saturday Night Live skit about the importance of cowbell and rock and roll.

489
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And it just hit me while I was listening to that and I didn't have the headphones on before.

490
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And now I'm like, oh yeah, okay, it sounds like Saturday Night Live.

491
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:57,000
So interesting how I haven't seen the skit but I can only imagine how fucked up Christopher Walken would look doing that.

492
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:03,000
He's probably some asshole record producer or some role that he would just fit perfectly so good at that.

493
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:10,000
See, while that was playing I was thinking of something else which I can't come up with right now.

494
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Okay, then I'm going to play two more bits for you.

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This first one is from a new podcast called Northwestern Noise.

496
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And Northwestern Noise...

497
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has, well, it's self-explanatory, but it's brand new and if you live in the northwestern region,

498
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:34,500
which I've learned is Seattle and Oregon, then this might be of interest for you because

499
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there's some good local news for the northwestern region.

500
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If anybody out there isn't familiar with the Northwest, I'm sorry, I plead ignorance.

501
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Miacopa, the Northwest, is in the United States of America, encompassing the states of Oregon

502
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and Washington.

503
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I primarily have the called Oregon home.

504
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My these past 23 years, I had a quick stint in Miami.

505
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I have some interesting stories to tell you from Miami to bring up.

506
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And I also have a musician, an artist that I won't play.

507
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Hold on a second, where's the news part? I thought I had to cut out.

508
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,000
That's not what I wanted you to hear. Hold on.

509
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Who hasn't?

510
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I played some short excerpts.

511
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
I'll cut out.

512
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Talk real quick about if you have a blog, this is so horrible.

513
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This is made by Hugo.

514
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He can do anything.

515
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And they do Beaverton.

516
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:49,500
Any programs these pot well I feel I feel shitty now because wait maybe it's

517
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:51,500
Maybe it's after this

518
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:59,500
No, we have that bit. What happened to his northwest news yet to be born. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go

519
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:01,500
Here we go still in womb

520
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:07,500
Let me just rewind a little bit more because this is here's going into some news specific

521
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I got messed up. Hey, I'm doing this without a producer. I'm not used to that.

522
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You've never been there and you've never visited.

523
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Okay, he's going to talk about him out, same hell.

524
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Okay, here we go with Northwestern noise and the news.

525
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1364 feet. That's amazing. Wiped out everything. All life for, I don't know, a large radius.

526
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:39,000
And if you've never been there and you've never visited Mount St. Helens, it's in Washington.

527
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I forgot to mention that, sorry. If you haven't visited it, you should, but stay away right now because of these minor eruptions.

528
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:53,000
But at the time, which is interesting, was I wasn't even born yet. I was still in womb, yet to be born.

529
00:37:53,000 --> 00:38:07,000
But I was, so I didn't get to see massive explosion and I guess I was unfortunate enough to miss the ash that covered the region like snow.

530
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Numerous people died because of the event.

531
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:19,000
So it was very cataclysmic.

532
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:21,500
So it's still six in the mind of everybody here in the Northwest.

533
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:22,500
We all remember it if we were alive.

534
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,500
And so enough with the Mount St. Helens.

535
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:27,500
Let's hope it doesn't explode.

536
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:29,500
Okay.

537
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:31,500
Well, that's a good thought for the day.

538
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:32,500
Let's definitely hope it doesn't explode.

539
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:37,500
But, uh, so I missed it up there on the queue, but he really went into the whole

540
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story about Mount St. Helens and give some background on it.

541
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,500
And I wouldn't have known this, you know, and so that apparently there's

542
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:46,500
been some minor earthquakes that have been registered and they're a little

543
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:51,500
bit worried about a repeat of what happened 25 years ago, which I do remember

544
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:54,500
because I was, I was 15.

545
00:38:55,500 --> 00:39:00,500
So I do remember I was doing a lot of other things when I was 15, but was it

546
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:00,500
cataclysmic?

547
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:01,500
I can't really remember.

548
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:06,500
I can't really remember if it was cataclysmic or how bad it was.

549
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:09,500
It just, it's, it's even too far back for me.

550
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:13,500
I'm sure some, you know, if someone witnessed that and remembers that, you

551
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:18,500
know, record that, record that in a, in an mp3 file and point it to me or email it to

552
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:20,500
me, don't email it, mac.com still isn't working.

553
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:28,000
but you know I'll find it somehow I'll aggregate it I hope and I wanted to leave

554
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000
you with one last bid here for today what are we we're 40 minutes into it

555
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,000
digging this I still haven't taken my walk around and let's take a couple of

556
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,000
podcasts this is the new tech aura show tech aura.com and with little shout out

557
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,000
to me and played a song for me some good hillbilly shit-kicking music but

558
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,000
I'm gonna let him set it up first Dave and Adam since we were talking about

559
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,000
also the fact that I've been working this you know solidify this system for

560
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,000
himself yeah my head put out another trade secrets put out another source quote

561
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:04,000
over the weekend and just it's just a kind of a funny little note Adam I have

562
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,000
one question for you how in the live in hell can you smoke as many bowls as

563
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,000
you do during a show especially for as long as you're up every day I mean I

564
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000
would be going comatose maybe that's what's happening in the middle that you

565
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:21,000
go comatose. Oh dude dude dude I am comatose. Didn't you hear me cue up that last

566
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000
bid? I am comatose.

567
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:27,500
those hours but it's so funny if you listen really really close when Dave

568
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:33,500
like in a trade secret when Dave is going off on his little diatrous sorry

569
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:38,500
Dave you you do like to talk when he gets going and Adam's sitting there

570
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:42,500
listening and you can hear the you know the lighter going off in the background

571
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:47,500
I just think that's absolutely hilarious but so on my first music segue I've

572
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:54,500
got a little dedication actually this is this is a great band love them to death

573
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:59,500
and I think this one is going out to Adam Curry this this one's for you dude

574
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[ Music ]

575
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Hellcat's doing I like whiskey. Actually that was a demo song so the quality was a demo tape so the quality of that wasn't that great

576
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:38,000
But awesome dude. Thank you very much for that and isn't it beautiful the way, you know, you can make a recording of

577
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:44,000
An mp3 and you just crank up the volume and it comes into my mp3 player and it's the same quality

578
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Fantastic, even though that was a demo clearly. It was awesome. Thank you. I appreciate that what a beautiful gift to receive

579
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,000
And I just wanted to mention a couple things briefly about the iPod or developers list

580
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,000
We still got some great momentum going with developers and users all over the place

581
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:06,000
There are a couple of off-list conversations, which is all good and I threw a question out there. I said look

582
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Where are we at with Windows and I got an answer back and probably more but as I've mentioned my email is just not working

583
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Apparently so I don't know if more has come back but there are two Windows clients that really seem to have the installation and

584
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000
The

585
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:31,500
I'm going to start making some decisions on what we're going to promote here because I

586
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:34,500
want to put on the homepage for iPodder.org.

587
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:40,500
I basically want to have download and I want to have Mac which will more than likely be

588
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:42,500
iPod or X.

589
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:48,500
Underneath that I want to put Windows with iTunes, Windows with media player and I want

590
00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:54,500
to have one for each and then for other systems Linux, Pocket PC I think we have

591
00:44:54,500 --> 00:45:00,500
and then I'll have links to other clients because I think there's a market here you

592
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:05,500
know and I don't want anyone to be disappointed.

593
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:08,500
I know a lot of people have given up the development of their scripts and saying

594
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:11,500
I know so I've put up my last changes I'm switching to this.

595
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:23,500
But I know that there's one or two projects out there that probably haven't gotten the attention they deserve just because I'm confused at this point about how much is going on and how many different projects there are.

596
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:29,500
And please just, you know, keep hammering me if I haven't put a link to your, your download page or whatever.

597
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:32,500
And I've put a couple more up today.

598
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:42,500
But there's a market here. There's a definite, definite market for developing iPod or functionality because it's, you know, you're talking about the organization and how stuff runs.

599
00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:53,500
And when it runs and file management, and you're going to have users that in the exact same way as we did this together, they're going to want to talk with you and have you create something better.

600
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:56,500
And they're going to pay for it. They will. You know, it does work.

601
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:59,500
I pay for software all the time, not the only one. Clearly.

602
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:08,500
There are companies and small, you know, just developers by themselves who take PayPal payments for software they're making.

603
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:14,500
And there is a, there's totally a market for that. And I'll support, you know, anything. Just let me know what you do.

604
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:20,000
doing and I'll point to it and let's make something out of this industry.

605
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:27,000
Same goes for, and no one has shown up for this yet except for the Audio Hijack Pro guys,

606
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,000
for how we're doing this.

607
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,000
I'm using five different applications.

608
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,000
I think there's an opportunity there and it's going to be big.

609
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000
This is really going to be big.

610
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,000
So looking forward to getting that information out there so we can get more of our Windows

611
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:49,500
proud and I'm going to leave it at that for today with the source codes for Tuesday, September

612
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:54,500
28th.

613
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As always if you want to respond drop me an email, hopefully it will get here eventually

614
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:04,500
at adamantcurry.com or you can check out my weblog we've become a there.

615
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:10,500
The URL is live.curry.com.

616
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:14,500
All the archives and the latest shows can be found at dailysourcecode.com

617
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podcast enabled for the iPodder. It's dailysourcecode.com

618
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slash rss.xml. Hey, I'll talk to you tomorrow, everybody. Take care. Bye.