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Well, good afternoon everybody. It's Monday. It's October 4th.

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to power all the door is closed.

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And I got a lot of partying to do, another fabulous weekend,

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although I was actually in the United Kingdom.

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Trish and I went over to check out the new house,

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we'll be moving in, oh man, it's coming up quickly.

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Somewhere around the third week of November, so this,

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you can imagine there's so much to do,

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and meanwhile I'm sitting here,

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three quarters of my waking hours with headphones on,

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talking into microphones, talking to other people

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by my computer, I have to divide myself up a little bit more.

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So this is your daily source code,

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and I've been actually doing interviews about what we're doing here,

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podcasting, getting calls from, particularly from the West Coast and the States,

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and I'm really excited about everything that's happening.

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There's so many things I want to go through today,

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I'm going to try and make the show a little bit shorter than the normal.

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I tend on having a guest on the next source code, which may even, I might even release

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that right after today's show, kind of have like a today plus one.

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Hugo Shotman, I've pointed to him before and we've spoken about him as really leading

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a lot of the charge, certainly in documenting ways of setting up podcasting software.

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And so I said, you know, why don't we talk on daily source code and we'll see if we

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can come up with something.

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I don't know.

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Now, I've been going through more set up shit and I did another trade secrets with

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Dave last night.

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Now granted, I was probably a little bit tired just from coming back from the

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UK, you know, a little bit of car travel than flying.

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And it was around 9, 9.30, 10 o'clock my time when we recorded the show.

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I was so unhappy with the quality of his sound.

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You know, we've tried just about everything and the best quality by far

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of all the different chat.

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that we can use cross-platform is Skype.

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It's bar none. It's great quality.

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The latency is, it appears far lower than anything else.

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Mind you Dave's on Windows and I'm on a Mac

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and we're just, you know, guys just want to use something.

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So we're not great technologists.

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tweaking everything and it seems that we have almost tweaked everything but Skype is still

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in beta and it won't let you choose a virtual audio device at least not on the Mac.

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So until that's in there it really isn't 100% what we need but we're going to continue,

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we're going to try and use Skype from now on even though it does once in a while also

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just kind of quit.

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Anyway, so I was really pissed off about that.

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It just it bothered me so much and I started to work on new setups in the meantime.

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I discovered something very important as we were doing the show last night, the quality

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of his call degraded significantly and I couldn't figure it out and he says actually we could

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understand him okay but he couldn't understand me and it's like what's going on and it

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wasn't until much later that I realized that I'd become victim of my own success

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in a way because it was iPodder that kicked in and started downloading stuff at whatever

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time it was. And that of course used up all the bandwidth and crunched the connection.

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So whenever we come up with some software or something that helps you record a podcast,

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we need a big old red button that turns off all iPod activity because it's like that

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has definitely messed up a lot of the recording of the show.

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I had a couple of new podcasts that I wanted to point to and I have met a resolution

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by the way that when I post a new daily source code I will have to put up some

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links on the weblog portion of it and I'll refer it I guess in the somewhere in

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the ID3 tags I'll refer to the promo link of that weblog post so you should be

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able to find it because there is just too much stuff you know going on now and

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there's good stuff that I don't want to get lost in the shuffle so I want to

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start creating some some links to some of these new things.

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I'm seeing how I didn't have GeekSpeak here.

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I have enough for three shows, believe me.

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Actually, I'll start off with this one.

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This one was announced through the iPod or dev list.

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I'll just play the intro of it because it's kind of cool.

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It's got some good production value and I think it's...

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Particularly if we're looking at the audience that currently is using iPod

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or I think this will be a show that's going to fly.

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of missions to explore both homes.

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figure out what that word is that shit

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the software lands

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let me just listen to that I get it

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what is it 5 4 3 2 1 and then shift

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let's listen to that

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hi young

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what?

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new?

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okay I'm coming

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looks like we're gonna have to pause this recording

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I'll be back in

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a nanosecond for you as I eat my dinner

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that was a nice

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35 minute break had some dinner and I'm back

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and now everything's almost actually

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on track I think that in about 15 minutes

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give Hugo a shot in a call

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and we'll talk to him

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so let's play a couple of things

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I already played you the program one there

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the brand new podcast

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I'll make sure I point to that in the notes to the source code for today.

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Something else I found that, and a lot of this is coming through on the BlogDigger media feed,

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of course, now that I have iPodRx 2.0 running on my Mac, and it's really, it's quite wonderful.

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I just got to say I love the way it installs and how it sets everything up. Although,

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I think that probably something that all iPod developers could think about is creating a

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a default feed. It's a feed that is already in there just to show the user what even what a

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URL looks like. Hold on a second, my dog wants the little dog. Come on, so I'll be back. Let me go.

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MP3 audit. So, you know, just the first experience doesn't necessarily have to be with a 20 or 30 meg

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download from something like the day.

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Oh, it was probably an audio blog post, but it was just kind of... well, you'll hear it.

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It's interesting how technology, even though it's supposed to be so slick, can really,

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really fuck you up when you're traveling.

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This is titled 10.0238.mp3.

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So don't know where it's coming from. No.mp3 metadata, but check it out.

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Hey, good morning. It's 4.20am and I'm in Des Moines.

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Here's another reason to hate United.

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When I booked this flight to get home this morning, I decided to have it automatically add the flight to my Outlook calendar.

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So it told me that I was leaving at 6.12 in the morning.

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The trouble is I'm leaving Des Moines at 6.12 in the morning, Denver time, which means I'm leaving Des Moines at 7.12.

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So I'm here at the airport way earlier than I need to be and needless to say.

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I'm a chap that annoyed.

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So that's another way you can use this kind of technology to just let us know how you

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Also, it appears that podcasting is breaking through in other countries.

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I posted on my weblog, I posted to an Italian explanation of iPodder and today comes iPod

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soft audio.

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IpodSoft.

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Hello. The first audio news from IpodSoft.

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Let's see how it goes.

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First, computer test. Left, right. OK.

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So if it works, we'll do it regularly.

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Oh wow, that was tricky. Did you hear that?

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Did you hear that go from left to right?

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That's like, that's how they start their show off.

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Say, wait, hold on.

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We're going to test you now. Left, right, left, right.

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That was cool.

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Left, right. OK.

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We'll keep.

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Anyway, so some German iPod news.

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I could speak Dutch pretty well.

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But about at least a third of what they're saying is in English anyway.

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So I was going to scoop the Gilmore Gang,

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on the Gilmore Gang, by uploading,

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or actually by playing a little bit of the,

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what's that, huh? Two balls?

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Two balls. What kind of balls are these?

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We have cream balls.

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We have cream balls.

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Do you have those in there?

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They do now.

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I like our donkey balls.

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No, whipped cream balls.

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Filled with...

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Filled with whipped cream.

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Thank you, cream sushi.

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So I said I was going to scoop the Gilmore Gang,

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who did their show live from Nome Dex,

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which was in Lake Tahoe, I believe.

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Oh, shit.

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Now the other dog wants to go in.

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Come here, Jess.

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Come on, go.

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Now, I'm telling you, it's been like this all day.

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The phone's been ringing, people interrupting.

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I just can't get down to doing a show.

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So anyway, I knew that Doug Kay was down there

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doing the streaming stuff.

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and iPod platform and podcasting was great.

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Now it's jumping up and down as I was.

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in our inn, the room at the inn in the UK where

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was really cool but then raster web audio scoop me to the scoopage

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the Gilmore Gang. I think John Udell said something really significant here and I

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I can't believe I hit the ball.

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It landed in the water.

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Yes, but the splash was quite impressive.

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This place is so beautiful. I can see just coming here to think or read, though that

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Crap. Okay. You know what? I'm pretty sure that that wasn't the Gilmore Gang.

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I don't even think that was John Udell.

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I think that was the Gilmore Girls.

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I'm sorry, everybody.

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I'm forgetting.

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Hopefully that had the same effect on you as it had on me the first time.

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I was like, what the hell is he playing?

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What does nothing do with the Gilmore Gang?

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Indeed, the Gilmore Girls.

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Nice to have pizza, rice, and humor on the daily source code via raster web audio.

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So I do have a bit of the Gilmore gang.

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This is kind of cool because this in effect is bootleg.

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I think I may be posting it before it's even posted on ITConversations.com.

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I'm just going to play a little bit at the end of the show of what Steve Gilmore said

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was so incredibly nice.

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Just like Hugo Shopman, I'm going to ask Steve if he'll let me interview him on a daily source code.

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He clearly understands the opportunity that is in podcasting and iPodder, etc.

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And he's very vocal about it.

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Check it out.

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Final bit from the Gilmore gang soon to be up at ITConversations.com.

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You know, as somebody, the second executive at a major software company asked me the other day

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when's the Gilmore gang going to go, you know, national?

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And I said it's all...

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Where did he go?

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Act it.

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What do you want?

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platform to anybody, anywhere, who has access to the network.

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The streaming audio that Doug Kay is doing

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is we had questions on the first day of this conference

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from Australia, from New Zealand.

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Georgia.

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I've been a record producer.

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I've directed films.

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They may not be professional in the sense

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that they weren't Hollywood blockbusters,

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but I know how that stuff works.

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And I'm telling you that what Adam Curry is doing

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and what Dave Slusher is doing from Conway, South Carolina

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and what Robert Scobal is doing from pulling it

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Never underestimate the bad.

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with the Robert Scoble's ass.

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It is just as professional, if not more so,

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because these technologies, as they boil down

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and virtualized into a Mac today and a PDA

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or some sort of cell phone tomorrow,

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this is the recording studio of the future,

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and the future is now.

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This is happening today, and it is going,

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when people say in four or five years,

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when the iPod platform really takes off,

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they're missing the boat by about four or five years.

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It's happening right now.

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I really encourage you to listen to the entire Gilmore Gang,

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and I'm sure they'll also have other bits of the conference

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from NomeDecks up on ITConversations.com.

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I listened to a bit of Will Wheaton.

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Dave and I got to figure out a way to be able to record that

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and comment at the same time, because it's funny.

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You listen to something together and you comment.

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You come up with...

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with wacky stuff and there was also another conference. It was the future of content.

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session that was and there was also a lot of iPod or talk so make sure you catch

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that it'll probably be another day or so until they get all of that encoded and

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sorted out you know and this conference is can be pretty grueling

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particularly if you're doing streaming stuff. So let me see I got about five

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more minutes till we can call Hugh.

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past seven right now in Belgium. And I believe he's either in the Netherlands or Austria,

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but we're going to find out where he is. But while I was in the UK, I was looking around

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to see how the British citizens reacted to the presidential debate. And you know, from

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one thing leads to another, and I stumbled across a piece of video, which is, it's all animated,

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but I want to let you hear this because the voiceover is self-explanatory. And this, I think,

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is something that will be, well, you'll have to check out. Just listen to what this is. It's

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only about a minute and a half, and it's simply titled, Barry.move. This is how stuff comes

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along, and unfortunately there's no metadata whatsoever, but in the credits, and I'm

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going to link to this from my weblog for this source code posting, in the credits

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there's all kinds of information about who's behind this and what their drive is. But I

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think it gives a view of what...

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But Britons think of the United States in general and perhaps of the presidential elections

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and the world at large.

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The United States of America is the most powerful nation on Earth.

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In itself, this goes a long way to explaining the things it does around the world.

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At present, it's conducting a war on terror.

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Or more accurately, a campaign against opposition to US domination.

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Others prefer to call it the beginnings of the Third World War.

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United States has an insatiable appetite for conflict.

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career in the 1950s.

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one or other in some corner of the globe non-stop right up to it as a day.

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This drive is now led by the weapons manufacturers themselves.

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It's a highly dangerous project.

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It's the door of a new fashion being pushed open.

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The reality, as we see from the Iraqi invasion, is that the presidency has been...

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And this ghastly molecule aims to turn the world into its very own enslaved global mark.

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by Al Qaeda on the World Trade Center. It's just one response to it.

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Is this a conspiracy? Quite the opposite. It is a high-profile project known as the

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project of the new American Century. People like Dick Janie, Donald Rumsfeld,

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Richard Pearl are the major players among politicians right-wing thinkers

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and

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The project is a neoconservative manifesto, which includes in its toolbox the unbridled

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use of war and clearing a path for US interests.

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Iraq came entirely from this visible yet sinister group.

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And so who's next to wonder Iran, North Korea, France?

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None of us really matter to them.

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So then it goes into some credits.

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Barry McNamara, I know that name from somewhere.

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That's who did the voiceover.

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And then there's a final credit here, knife-party.net, directed and produced by knife-party.net.

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So you want to check that out.

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I've heard this theory before about a new world order and the new world movement.

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And I, yeah, it's the wonders of the internet that gives us the power to have this stuff

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put together, all this art, you know, and be able to play it for you.

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So, you know, this is, keep more of it coming.

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I don't think we'll ever, you know, this is the election.

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This is the chance where we have to use all these digital media tools to really get our

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point across and say what we want to.

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You can also, of course, just do it in traditional song.

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[ Music ]

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I didn't know I was un-American and uh, just a nice little tune on the daily source code for October 4th, 2004.

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Would it be this way?

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I hope I can find out who that is.

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Okay, it's time now, I'd say, to see if we can get Hugo on the...

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We're calling him via Skype.

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There we go.

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It's like it's working.

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Hi, how are you doing?

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I'm good.

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I'm recording already.

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That's good.

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So welcome to the source code.

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Thank you very much.

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You know, Hugo, you blew me away.

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Hold on a second.

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This is, I'm trying to get the, this is exactly why I wanted to call you because I want to

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make sure we get, we get squared away on the best personal setup for this kind of stuff.

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Okay.

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Well, you're kind of breaking up a little bit.

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How am I on your side?

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Yeah, you're coming through okay.

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I'll say what, I'm going to try calling again.

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Okay?

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Okay.

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Okay, we're, we're back and we've, I think now, by now we actually have it set up so

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that not only will you hear me talking, but we'll also hear Hugo talking.

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I mean, Hugo, I mean, I've had so much, you know, success and failure and all kinds

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of crap with this.

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I mean, what?

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I mean, help me out here.

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Where, where do we have to go?

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Who do we have to talk to?

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How do we get to the end of this?

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we have to get this working better and do you think that there's something we can bootstrap

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that'll get us further than where we're at right now because this is giving me many sleepless

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nights?

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Yes.

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Well, one answer is with the things that we have right now, we can write down different

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setups and lessons learned and exchange the best setup with each other so that we can learn

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and record it somewhere, which I have started on my side.

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We have to ask developers to actually create an all-in-all all-in-one

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Don't come up with a service.

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You've mentioned this service, and probably we've only recorded the fact that you mentioned

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it once.

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So, we've talked about it three times.

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Tell me about what your idea is, because I've heard a couple of other people mention that

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the idea of a service, how do you envision that?

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What would that be?

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What kind of service can we make?

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Can we develop that will bring all of the technologies that we're trying to figure

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out, all of the audio routing?

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Can we make something that will bring that to the people who want to do the show

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and not worry about the rest?

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Yeah, I think so.

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Just like you had a web log service right now where you post to.

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For instance, Radio Userland, it can run on your own machine, but it can also run

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completely somewhere else.

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Now, getting text to that server is...

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easy and we have lots of tools to do that already. Audio to it is a bit more

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difficult and intuitive for just users. Now you could SPP it to the service or email it or...

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Well you're talking about it is really is really a publishing system though.

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That what you're talking about? Yeah but maybe also a recording system because

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the next step is you open a line with the server through something that we are all

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familiar with like iChat or voice over IP and have that be the recording.

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And okay and so then the server will record can this in the server or this

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service will also be able to combine stuff so say I want to talk with you we

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don't have to restart this thing 25 million times it'll just combine those

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sources okay

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I also, yeah, I'm listening.

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Yeah, you'll have a chat with multiple people

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or a conference with multiple people

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and it'll record everything.

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So shouldn't Apple be doing this

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or shouldn't AOL Instant Messenger,

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shouldn't these, I mean,

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is this something we really wanna jump into?

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Is this something that we as, you know,

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mere mortal developers and users

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really wanna put our foot into?

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Well, we can use those tools already.

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We only have to put the pieces together.

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For instance, with SIP,

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there are SIP routers, SIP routers,

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that you can reprogram to almost anything.

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And it would be easy to add

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publishing capability and, you know,

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those are automatic enclosure generation MP3 encoding.

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You can put everything.

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in that same server.

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So I think, well that's a, but I think this is an interesting thought, you know, because

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I have to agree that there is, I mean there's such a high barrier level of entry on doing

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this stuff, figuring out how to connect all the bits so you can record the audio and your

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microphone and someone else and maybe a phone call.

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Is this something that maybe, what's that PBX software that everyone keeps raving about

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it's open source.

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Yeah, I have a link.

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I forgot the name.

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Actually, I had a little time the last week.

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It's too bad that it's bad timing.

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Because I was traveling.

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I was like in the Netherlands when you were there

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last Wednesday and until Sunday.

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Oh, OK.

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Well, I mean, is this for work related stuff

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that you're doing?

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Yeah, I was there for a perfect person.

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And then I went to a family.

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And I kind of...

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Well, you're allowed to do that.

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You're allowed family visits.

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I think there's no such timing as really good timing.

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There's all kinds of stuff that always comes and goes.

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But I'm so happy that we could just

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want to reach out to you and just say hi.

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And let you know that I certainly

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appreciate all the work that you're doing

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on figuring this stuff out.

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And I'm fascinated by the service idea.

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And now it's...

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Is this something that you would involve your employer with maybe?

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Is that something that Siemens would be interested in?

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Well, I'm in a small division of Siemens.

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Siemens is really, I'm not in the right division.

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So it would be difficult.

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Okay.

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If I wanted to do something with it, then it would mean something from my job.

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Right.

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Right, all right.

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So what is your background?

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What are your hobbies?

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What's the kind of stuff you like to do?

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Background from school actually is very technical.

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But I started to do consulting early on.

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I've been to Cambridge Technology Partners.

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Yeah.

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I remember that.

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I worked for them in Amsterdam in the dotcom years.

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I went to Accenture here in Zurich and went to Austria for a PhD instructor.

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So that's what makes me take as well.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And came to Siemens.

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Okay.

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And what's it like to live in Vienna?

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No, Zurich.

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I'm trying Zurich.

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What's it like there?

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Is it nice?

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Yeah, it's the Amsterdam of Switzerland.

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It's...

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I don't know if that's a compliment or if that's good or bad.

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media. You know, you've got lots of international people, you know, it's

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well, I could get away with, with not speaking German. You know, it's,

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it's lots going on, lots for single, you know, expert type people. Yeah. And

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the quality of living is just, it's good. Plus, it's close to the

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mountain. Where you like to ski, right? Exactly. Perfect.

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Perfect. Well, you know what, we're following your, your research

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very, very closely. And, you know, I'd like to, now that I've kind

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of figured out what the best way is to contact you, maybe later

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on the week, we can hook up again. And then by then, I'll

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have had some responses, and maybe there'll be some questions

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or reactions. And we can

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Sure, I'd be happy to.

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Okay, so on email we'll set up a time and a day and then we'll chat a little bit more.

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This is a great introduction.

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Alright, can you play me a song of the day or is it I'll set up?

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It's not set up so that you'll hear the song of the day, but I can certainly play

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a song of the day.

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Well, I really like Prince, but I just bought the Supper Club 7 and that's like really relaxed.

493
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Have you heard it yet?

494
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000
No, no, I haven't heard the...

495
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
I think I have Supper Club 2.

496
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000
I certainly don't think I'm anywhere near 7.

497
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,000
Anyway, no, no.

498
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000
But my setup is bare bones.

499
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,000
I don't have the regular setup subscribed on the site, so I cannot play you any music

500
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000
either.

501
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000
Well, hopefully next time.

502
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Okay, I'll make sure we find some Prince to put on for you and we'll talk to you in a couple

503
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000
of days and we'll check in again.

504
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000
All right, thank you very much.

505
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Okay, here you go.

506
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,000
No, thank you.

507
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000
Thanks for your time and have a great evening.

508
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000
All right, bye-bye.

509
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,000
And my thanks to Hugo Schottmann.

510
00:35:58,750 --> 00:37:58,750
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511
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Oh, give me that!

512
00:38:06,250 --> 00:38:56,000
[ Music ]

513
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Keep fighting!

514
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000
Keep keep keep fighting!

515
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Don't stop dancing!

516
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Tch!

517
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Tch!

518
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Tch!

519
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,000
Tch!

520
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:03,000
Tch!

521
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Tch!

522
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:31,250
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523
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000
Alright, on one y'all.

524
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000
You hear this old school joint?

525
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000
Don't you ever touch my stereo.

526
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,000
This set up got good and plenty

527
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,000
of what you need the most.

528
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,000
And that's

529
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,000
TRI

530
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,000
P

531
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,000
Yeah.

532
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Okay.

533
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000
And so it just keeps on

534
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000
jamming and jamming and jamming and jamming.

535
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
And it's kind of like,

536
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
you know, it's kind of like the

537
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
gods were playing with this because I've been talking about

538
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Prince. I think

539
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
I think Dave and I talked about it on trade secrets.

540
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
We, you know, we said, you know,

541
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
Prince would totally understand this stuff, right?

542
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
He'd be so completely into it.

543
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,000
And

544
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000
lo and behold, if I wasn't interviewed

545
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
by Julio

546
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000
and Julio works for

547
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,000
it's kind of, it's a night-ridder publication

548
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000
in Minneapolis, St. Paul.

549
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:38,500
Uh, hold on a second.

550
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:40,500
Julio, here we go.

551
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:47,500
Julio Ojeda Zapada works for the, oh there it is, the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

552
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:52,500
And so I said, you know, as Julio was interviewing me, I said, you know, I think this is all

553
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:55,500
meant to be because, you know, Prince is going to read this and then he's going

554
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:56,500
to listen to the source code.

555
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:59,500
He's going to call up and he's going to get it and he's going to want to use this

556
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:01,500
for the distribution of his music.

557
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:02,500
Okay.

558
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:05,500
Maybe I'm just rambling on a little bit too much.

559
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:10,500
I'm going to leave you with one last bit that I found online.

560
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:14,500
My gosh, I'm not sure where this came from, other than the

561
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:17,500
blog digger media feed, right?

562
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:20,500
You've probably read about the number of times during the

563
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:24,500
Republican National Convention, how many times different words like

564
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:29,500
Osama bin Laden, no, I'm sorry, Saddam Hussein, Iraq, war on terror,

565
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:32,500
etc., but not Osama bin Laden.

566
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:35,500
All these different terms were used.

567
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,000
over and over and over again and maybe you heard some audio of it. I don't know but someone finally

568
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Went through the trouble of putting this all together into a video

569
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000
Let me just see I think the video is from

570
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,000
It's live. It's probably from C-span and what I thought I'd do is I'd play this it only lasts a couple of minutes

571
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,000
But it'll really freak you out when you hear how many times they're they're repeating these words and how many different people

572
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,000
And who these people are and so if there's a caption that comes up

573
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000
Maybe I'll just break in and tell you that what it says like here

574
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000
it says, how do you run a convention on a recathive failure and

575
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000
so now it starts off with of course

576
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:17,000
Invoke 9 11 the heart of this great city. We saw a tragedy arrive on a quiet morning

577
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:25,000
September the 11th September the 11th September the 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September

578
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000
11th September 11th September 11

579
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000
September 11th September 11

580
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000
September 11th

581
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000
11.

582
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,000
September 11.

583
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,000
September 11.

584
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,000
September 11.

585
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000
September 11.

586
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000
September 11.

587
00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:43,500
September 11! September 11 September 11

588
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,000
September 11.

589
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,000
September 11.

590
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000
September 11.

591
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:46,500
September 11 September 11 September 11

592
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:51,500
This is Giuliani by the way. Now it says no your enemy.

593
00:42:51,500 --> 00:43:04,500
Saddam Hussein

594
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Handle the bin Laden matter appropriately.

595
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,000
And that's just got crits playing and everyone being quiet.

596
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,500
Above all, spread fear.

597
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:16,500
And danger.

598
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:17,500
Continuing danger.

599
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:18,500
Power of danger.

600
00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:20,500
Very, very dangerous world.

601
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:22,500
Brave new threat.

602
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,500
Horrific acts of atrocities, murderous regimes.

603
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:27,500
Dedicating to killing us.

604
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:28,500
Tyranny and terror.

605
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:32,500
Slaughtered thousands of weapons of mass destruction.

606
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,500
Weapons of mass destruction.

607
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:35,500
Weapons programs.

608
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:37,500
The deadliest of weapons.

609
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:37,500
Terrible weapons.

610
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:39,500
Nuclear weapons.

611
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:40,500
Nuclear weapons.

612
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:41,500
Poison gas.

613
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:42,500
Torture chambers.

614
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:43,500
Mass graves.

615
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:44,500
Deadly technology.

616
00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:46,500
Radical ideology of hate.

617
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:48,500
Terror of threats.

618
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:48,500
Terror.

619
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:49,500
Terror.

620
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:49,500
Terror.

621
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:50,500
War on terrorism.

622
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:52,500
War against terrorism.

623
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:53,500
Global war on terror.

624
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:54,500
Global terrorism.

625
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Global.

626
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
God Giuliani's unbelievable.

627
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,000
He's the best one of all of them.

628
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,000
They continuously have thousands of quotes by Giuliani.

629
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,000
Global.

630
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Charism.

631
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,000
Global.

632
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Terrorism.

633
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Terrorism.

634
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,000
Charism.

635
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Terrorism.

636
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Terrorism.

637
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Terrorism.

638
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,000
Terrorism.

639
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Terrorism.

640
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Terrorist, terrorist, terrorist.

641
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
George W. Bush. Keeping America Scared.

642
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,000
That's what it winds up with there.

643
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Wow. I like Barbara Bush's the way she speaks.

644
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,000
She has a nice accent.

645
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,000
Terrorist, terrorist.

646
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,000
Anyway, that's your food for thought there.

647
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,000
I'm going to wrap this up. What are we at?

648
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:54,500
All kinds of ideas and stuff so

649
00:44:54,500 --> 00:45:00,500
I'm midst all of this. I'm sure we'll pump out another source code sometime tomorrow. I thank you very much for listening

650
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:04,500
Thanks to Hugo Schottman for being on the show and I'll check you tomorrow

651
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:12,500
As always, you can send a comment, but you may let me add them at curry.com or leave

652
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:13,500
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653
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:20,000
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654
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655
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,000
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656
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,000
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657
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658
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