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Good afternoon friends, family, world leaders, welcome to the Daily Source Code for Wednesday.

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Oh boy, I got a couple of songs to play for you.

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Lots of examples of new podcasts and little bits I want to...

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That's Jesse, my dog, giving me a little message there.

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I don't know how long the show is going to be until I'm actually done with it, but hold

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on a second.

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Come on, Jesse.

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Come outside.

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Come here.

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Come here.

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Just in time.

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I'm only starting the show.

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That's our dog Jesse now.

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Ouch.

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Okay.

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So I was thinking, just looking at the amount of time I spent on the preparation for

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today's show.

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I'll just leave the door open, you guys can do that all yourself like it.

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Okay, so I was thinking about the amount of time that goes into preparing a source code.

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Today about an hour and a half I'd have to say, and that's, you know, during the day

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I save stuff, I save emails, I save files that I find.

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I have a special playlist and iTunes, the stuff that comes in through iPod or in iTunes,

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I drag into a source code playlist so that I can kind of remember where I have,

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where I've stashed everything. Do you hear these dogs they're going nuts today?

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Well, anyway. So I thought, you know, this has to be compensated somehow.

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So today's daily source code is brought to you by Grandmaster View.

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And let me tell you about Grandmaster View and let me put a disclaimer in.

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I own a part of the company. I'm a minority shareholder.

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Grandmaster View, it's a new way of watching. It's brand new flat screens.

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Flat screen TV technology that is so smart, it'll blow.

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you away. And you can also buy them in the United States. So I'll talk about that in

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a sec. But just briefly about these flat screens. Some of you may know that I made an investment

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in this company a while back. What happened is these, and I didn't invent this. This is

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a Dutch invention made in the Netherlands. And also, currently, the production line is

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in the Netherlands. You know, with the advent of plasma screens and LCD screens and all

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this technology that's made television.

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And granted with plasma, there's a lot of disadvantages.

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It's about, what is it?

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Over 100 pounds that you have to hang on your wall.

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There's always an ugly wire coming down.

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The screens are, they only have a certain lifespan.

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And it's very expensive to replace those.

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The cost of a screen, like a plasma screen,

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is very expensive.

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The size is limited.

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They just don't get as big as you might want

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for your home cinema if you were using as a home cinema.

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And I hooked up with these guys, Grandmaster View.

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And they showed me a flat screen that was 2 meters 20

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diagonally.

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So that's about seven feet.

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And it looked to me like a plasma screen.

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I couldn't understand it.

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And there were no wires.

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It was hanging up.

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They even had a nice little ambient light behind it.

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It was against the wall, but just a little bit

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set off from the wall with a light.

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just looks so cool and the price tag was something like 2,000 euros so say two

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and a half thousand dollars I said now you know clearly a zero dropped off it

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should be 25,000 for this size and even that may not be enough. So here's the

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trick about Gram MasterView and why I like it so much. In the past at least

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the past eight or nine years there's been a lot of development going on in

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projectors. Projector technology has gotten really good we're outputting

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you know a standard projector that you just buy or you know anywhere at any almost

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at any appliance store is going to give you probably more than a thousand ANSI

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lumens of light and that's an enormous amount just a couple years ago was you

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know you barely get 500 and you can get a lot more than that and people do buy

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much higher intensity projectors because the screens have barely changed so you

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probably catching on to me by now that what these guys did is they developed

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a better screen they came up with a special coating which of course is you

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the secret sauce of the company and they produce this beautiful flat, it's a, I call it wood,

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it's not of course, but it's just a flat screen, they put a beautiful edge around it so it

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has that plasma screen look and the reflection that you get from this, you can watch these

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I've had one for over a year now.

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I love it so much that I bought a piece of the company.

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So Grand Master View, grandmasterview.com, if you're in the Netherlands, we have an

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American affiliate now, very proud of that, and you can read everything about Grand

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florida.grammasterview.com.

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florida.grammasterview.com.

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All right, that's it for the commercial portion of the show.

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Now let's get on to some religion, everybody.

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Put your hands on your iPod and seal the power.

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Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes-Benz?

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My friends all have horses.

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I must make amends.

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Worked hard on my lifetime.

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No help from my friends.

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Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes-Benz?

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Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Color TV?

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Because dialing $4 is trying to find me.

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I wait for delivery each day until three.

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Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Color TV?

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Oh Lord, won't you buy me a night on the town?

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Because I'm counting on.

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you lord please don't let me down

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read that you love me and buy the next round

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oh lord won't you buy me a night on the town everybody

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me. Hey Mercedes Benz, my friends all have horses. I must make amends. Worked hard all

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my lifetime. No help from my friends. Oh Lord, hold your body. Hey Mercedes Benz.

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my iTunes this morning. That's where I got everything for today's show, by the way, except

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for one song which is a request, which, oh gee, I had to go all the way to LimeWire. I

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went to our podcast library and was able to download it in seconds. That later on, after

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a double shot of prayer then, man, I hope Lord buys me a Mercedes Benz. All my friends

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have Porsches. Look at the mailbag. I got an email from Tom Pole, that's P-O-H-L,

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and then we had all those Mac problems. He sent me a brief note and said,

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it could be that your hard drive is failing. Very possible. It always seems

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when you're using big files and doing all this kind of stuff that your hard

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drive does. It's the first thing that has moving bits, so I guess that's where

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it's why it's prone to breaking first. It says there's a great utility called

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Smart Reporter that will check the physical health of your hard drive. You

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can find it on version trackers. Smart Reporter. I'm definitely going to check

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it out and see what it is. I figured I cut the source code first for today

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before I go fucking with my art.

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drive, which is probably a smart idea. And this is also stuff that not only will I point

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to all of these links along with the posting of the source code, but also a lot of them

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are listed on iPodder.org.

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on that. The directory of shows is current. You can add your own show. There's a link.

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Just click on that, fill out the details and all I basically have to do is just make sure it's added,

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make sure it's what everyone really says it is.

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Clearly we have an intruder in the house.

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That would be our handyman.

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Let's see what he's doing.

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Hey Luke!

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Can I get help, eh?

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Eh?

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Oh boy, hold on a second. This is Belgian.

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What?

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A sponge?

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I don't know what sponge it is.

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Did you look at the garage?

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Or at the stairs to the basement?

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Okay, close the door, Lucas.

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I'm just recording, don't laugh.

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Thank you.

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Well, he was looking for a sponge.

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And I'm happy to interrupt the show for that.

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So, another link I'm pointing to is from Mark van de Vettering.

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His site is brainwagon.org.

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We've had Hugo show us how to set up our Macs to do a podcast.

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And he's got a whole rundown of ways you can do this on Windows.

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We've been waiting for this.

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So, that's also an iPod.org.

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Again, as I said, I'm getting that together.

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Now, what we really need is a different look for iPod.org.

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It looks kind of lame, actually.

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Let me see.

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How did I have all of this set up?

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Here we go.

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there's another thing that I had here.

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about all how settings podcasts up

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and how do we route audio and geez,

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not like we haven't been talking this for quite a bit.

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Got an email from Tim Ayello,

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spelled like the actor's name I guess.

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Adam, been a while, listen to your podcasts.

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He says, when it comes to the voice applications,

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he says you may want to look at the gaming world.

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I hadn't thought about this.

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He says, for instance, voice apps,

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TeamSpeak and then Trillo might be used

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for being able to get a bunch of people in

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and talking all at once with very good quality.

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The gamers are playing online and,

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you know, they're, so they're using high CPU

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intensity applications and they're talking to each other.

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it's just that we have to,

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we have to connect these worlds together.

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And I'm glad I got this, this email from Tim.

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So hopefully if you can help us out,

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here's some information on Tim.

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TeamSpeak has a client recording facility, I believe it only pumps out a dot wave.

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Well, okay, we can always convert that.

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It has both Windows and Linux clients and servers are available for Windows, Linux,

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It hasn't tried Ventrilo yet, but I think that's really interesting.

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complete different communities and also have some GeekSpeak coming up

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from the board game GeekGuys, a little bit of their show that I wanted to play for you.

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And something else that showed up on the iPod this morning, thanks to the iPodder.

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It's another political song, it's another mix.

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It's the trigger-happy single mix.

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We're going to give you a dictatorship.

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In the name of freedom, we're going to take yours away.

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In the name of liberty, we are going to give you the Royal Chef.

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Give up this offer, do it on your own Don't kill me anymore baby, baby, you're not

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No one's been having that good of a while, come on.

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You from the Post Office?

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I'm getting out of here.

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Trigger Happy. Too bad about the quality.

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While I was playing I checked it out.

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It's a sample that's 48 kilohertz, which is just not enough.

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And I think it sounds really muddled and you're not able to hear all the world.

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with Iraq I recupation you know you gotta appreciate that so hopefully we can find out who did

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that get a better quality mp3 of the song that would be most awesome great song I really like

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the good tune could have used a little bit more cowbell and you remember just the other

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day maybe you don't maybe didn't hear Dave and I were talking about song

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And I said, you know, Beatles, man, you just don't hear enough Beatles.

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And I don't know if this is just what's out in the air,

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or if it's, you know, if it's buzzing around,

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but I listened to Geek Speak,

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trying podcasts about gaming,

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and lo and behold, here's how it started off.

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[ Music ]

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Hey, welcome to GeekSpeak.

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We're up to episode three.

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Episode three.

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Cool.

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All right.

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What are we talking to this week, maybe?

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Oh, well, I'm Scott Alden.

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Yeah, that's true.

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And I'm Dirk.

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Actually, I'm Aldi.

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I'm Aldi on the show.

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You say so.

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That's interesting.

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In Europe, we have two supermarket chains.

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One is called Dirk for Dirk von der Brug, but we call it Dirk.

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And the other one, which is a German one, is called, You Got It.

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Aldi.

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So, this episode, we have Mark Kaufman and Eric Hauptmann from Days of Wonder, the publishing

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company that has recently come out with a couple of winner games from the German game

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of the year, the Spieldizar.

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Take it to ride.

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And also Memoir 44, which just won the two-player IGA award.

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So, if you want to hear more about that, definitely check out GeekSpeak.

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It's a great podcast.

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You can get to it from the iPod.org show's directory.

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GeekSpeak is the name of the show.

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the show.

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And so there you go.

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There's a new game coming out or just came out called Ticket to Ride.

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But I love this podcast.

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You might not understand Jack all about what they're talking about because they're in their

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industry.

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They are in the gaming industry.

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They're talking about the new games.

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They know what you should see.

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Their website.

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It's amazing, by the way, geekspeak.com.

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So this is just complimentary to what they were already doing.

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But now they're interviewing the game designers.

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And I'm just tickled by that.

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I think it's great.

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The thing I played for you a while ago was Northwest Noise.

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St. Helens.

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He reported that Northwest Noise is only about the Washington and Oregon region.

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That's Northwest Noise.

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That's what Northwest Noise is chosen as their audience.

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Although if you have any affinity with it, it could be interesting to have a family

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there.

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But he said, you know, there's some word about some rumblings going on deep in St. Helens.

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And he had this big spiel about how the previous eruption happened before.

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She was born and really had only had concerns about that.

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50 or 60 people died during that eruption.

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and lo and behold, it did.

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I didn't listen to all of Northwest Noyes.

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I don't know if there's a report later on about what they're expecting.

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Helens and well clearly that caught my interest.

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I do do on the air reporting from location.

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So let's let's queue up his latest escapades up there in Mount St. Helens.

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So I hate Tim. How you doing?

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Hey there!

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I'm in the crater again.

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He's bastard.

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He's stoned me.

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Take a second look.

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See how it's doing down here.

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you get the picture. But if you want to know anything about the northwestern

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region of the United States, North with no

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to pronounce, but a great podcast.

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Something else I've been keeping track of is a podcast called Career Opportunities.

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Again, you can get to...

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career opportunities is really about just what it is.

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Your career, how you can advance your career, stuff to watch out for in a corporate environment.

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And I ran a public company.

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Certainly, well, let's say I ran the New York office of a public company and was one

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of the co-founders of it.

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And there's a lot you got to think about.

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Certainly in the States.

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And there was a bit that he had on the...

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I think this is an archive of something he's done before, but it came through on my

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iPod today.

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The title of this is Keep It To Yourself.

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And you'll probably recognize some of these situations.

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Despite the fact that companies are trying to become more like a family and less like

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a cold corporation, it's always best to remember that there are certain aspects of your life

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that you shouldn't share with your coworkers or your managers.

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The stories you tell now may come back to haunt your career in the future.

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For the years, I've been on the receiving end of many stories I would have rather not

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known.

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These include graphic descriptions of...

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drunken nights on the town, sexual adventures, and quasi-legal activities.

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While you might want to share your adventures, your coworkers probably aren't the best audience.

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It's a simple truth in any industry that you are never sure who you might end up working

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for down the road.

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Today's intern might end up running a hot new startup, or you could be laid off and

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end up following a coworker to a new company.

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The entertainment industry describes it in this way.

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Whoever you stepped on getting to the top will be kicking you all the way down.

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As you can imagine, people can be reluctant to hire someone who has a history of heavy

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drinking or drug use.

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Except in the podcast industry.

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That it's too risky to their professional reputation to bring you into their company.

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They might be afraid that your actions would reflect badly on them.

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Okay, you gotta listen to it.

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You can listen to it two ways.

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It's great sound advice, but it's also funny when you...

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scenarios that you can run into.

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We're about 23 minutes into this daily source code for Wednesday, October 6, 2004.

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And Dave Weiner finally posted a morning coffee notes.

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It's been, I think, about a week and I understand why because he's been busy.

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He's been doing trade secrets with me.

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We've been talking a lot about iPod and podcasting and he was up at the Microsoft conference.

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I think there was a Web 2.0 conference, but he also went to this.

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I believe there were some get together that Microsoft invited a number of bloggers to come

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look at something they were presenting.

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And of course, it's all under NDA, so I have no idea what it is.

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And Dave made reference to David Weinberger in his morning coffee notes.

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And something really interesting.

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Dave makes a real good point about privacy and the fact that we really are just kind

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of getting used to what we have.

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we all dream it works, we have to figure out some of this privacy stuff.

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And it's certainly interesting to hear Dave champion Microsoft a little bit, or maybe more

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than a little bit in these thoughts that he has about privacy.

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Now actually the Morning Coffee Notes is about a whole bunch of things.

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He also goes through the history of desktop publishing, to web logs, to podcasts, which

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is really, it's a good listen.

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So check that out.

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The show is about 45 minutes.

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But I want to play this one bit where he talks about privacy.

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It's about four minutes.

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And he hooked up with David Weinberger, who you've probably heard from, or heard of,

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at Microsoft.

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And they had this conversation.

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And here's Dave's version of the conversation and his conclusions.

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Weinberger and I, it's funny because at a philosophical level, I've said this

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to him before that.

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We are in total agreement on the philosophy of the web and we're actually gonna have a session on this at blogger con called the core

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Values of the web the idea there has to be led by Mary hotter

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It's an academic subject. It's question of well. What is at one point? I was when I went to Amsterdam

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I went to the W3C meeting in Amsterdam. I think was in it was in

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2000 yeah, I was in 2000 and I I wrote about that saying I was looking for the heart of the web and didn't find it

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That's okay. I mean at one point that was the heart of the web

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but the web does have a heart and it does have a philosophy and

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We're all sort of looking at different parts of it and Weinberger is one of those people and he's written some great books

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you know, small pieces loosely joined is one of his books and of course the Clutrain Manifesto,

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which I think is one side of the coin and the other side of the coin is blogs.

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And we seem to be, you know, I was a math major and in math, very theoretical type of math, not,

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you know, and in math the great thing about math, the reason why people love who do math,

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love math is because there's this sort of, you can approach a theorem from five different approaches,

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you can always end up at the same place. And it shows you that something that it's very hard to

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describe in words, other than to say that this is what beauty is. Beauty is where you discover

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the underlying law that explains the nature of something that one wouldn't necessarily think

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has an underlying law that and the web is like that.

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The web, the essential element of the web is the link.

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all the way up to the simplest user interface,

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that where you link, you're like the web.

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Where you are exclusive, when you don't link,

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you are not like the web.

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So, Weinberger and I agree on everything,

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but today, or actually it was yesterday,

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we found something that we don't agree on,

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and I think I'm right, and I think he's wrong.

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So I thought, wow, this is a momentous occasion.

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Let's celebrate it.

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Of course, I think I'm right, and I think that if,

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in a short while, he will agree with me,

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because I once was where he is.

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He asked a question, he said,

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will this require the use of passport?

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And the Microsoft person said yes.

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And he said, well, then I won't use it.

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was once and and no I don't have a passport. On the other hand I'm probably

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going to give in and get one and there's a reason for that because the world has

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changed. First of all when we were against it there was this idea that we

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would all work together and we would create something that was open and

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democratic and not controlled by a major monolithic antitrust violating you

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know convicted company that couldn't be trusted you know and all that's very

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valid and it's still valid and this is how Microsoft screwed not just

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themselves but all of us do because they should have been much more careful

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about earning and keeping our trust or not just our trust but deserving of

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trust and no we would be wrong to trust them but on the other hand we would be

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even wronger not to do something about identity theft do something about it

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take some step to protect yourself.

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In another conversation I said to one of the people

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at the conference, I said, you know,

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let's create a hardened laptop.

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Let's create one where if I lose the laptop or it's stolen,

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they don't automatically get all my sensitive information

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off there.

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Why is this a concern?

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Because more and more our financial affairs

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are moving on to the internet.

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It's just too convenient and there are too many incentives

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for us to do it.

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Businesses, you know, will give us a few points off

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if we are willing to move all of our business

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on the internet because it's cheaper for them

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to not have to print out and mail out invoices.

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At some point, you're not even gonna have

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the option of getting paper.

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You're gonna have to do it electronically.

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And at that point we're all gonna be very vulnerable.

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And mass, mass hijackings of identity.

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will be taking place.

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I think we're going to record a show today.

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And I just saw that he's no longer idling in Seattle

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through iChat.

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So that means he's awake.

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So after this show, we'll probably

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record trade secrets.

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But that is true.

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And wow.

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And you know what?

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It's mandatory for all tax returns to be done electronically.

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And this, of course, has become a big deal because not everyone can file their tax returns

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electronically.

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So of course, now there's companies that will do that for you that kind of sit in the middle,

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but that's a big, that's a giant step.

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And the government did it.

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Excuse me.

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government did it, as they say themselves, to reduce cost.

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But yeah, so it's a tax return.

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That's a little different than a bank account.

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What kind of information are you sending over the wire that can just be picked up by anybody?

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Now I see that we're already 30 minutes into the show and I still have a number of things

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I want to do.

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I'm going to skip over a bit.

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I was going to play a bit from the Audio Activism podcast, but I'll save that for tomorrow's

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show because it's kind of a whole different topic, but it's really a podcast about political

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issues.

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And then I just wanted to skip on to a request that I received as Dave and I continue to

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find out what do we want to do with these podcasts and what kind of music do we want

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to play?

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So Dave should just do a print show.

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It should be the Dave and Print Show, the Dave and Print podcast.

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But he also mentioned another group who were probably...

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just as important as the Beatles or the Stones or the Kinks.

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I even put the Bee Gees in there.

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If you think back to Bee Gees in late 60s,

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they had some different songs than Saturday Night Fever.

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So I'm going to, first of all, turn the big podcast antenna

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pointed out to Seattle.

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Here's one.

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I love the colorful cliché

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[ Music ]

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...

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That was in the days when did those quick fadeouts beach boys good vibration

490
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hump in your hump day for Wednesday October 6 2004. Okay, gotta talk a little bit about

491
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iPod. I know that people are getting tired of

492
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bit to play about that very topic in a couple minutes. Also some comedy on the

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way in the very first Engadget podcast. But hey, this is the place where users and

494
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developers party together, right? And we still got some work to do. And I got an

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email which was copied to a number of other people from Ray Slakinski. Now I've

496
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spoken about Ray before. I'm pretty sure he did the nucleus bit torn client

497
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that I'm using to grab American TV shows. And as soon as he saw the iPod

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or script that I created, the original Apple script, he started making pipe.

499
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And that script was then used by August to create iPodder X, which I love.

500
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I think it's the definitive Mac iPodder client.

501
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And it just works great in all the new versions.

502
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And Ray goes on to say, you know, so I helped August all the way up to 2.0 with patches.

503
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And at the time he was working on iPodder, which is this great cross-platform effort going on,

504
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which is coming out pretty soon.

505
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And this is going to work on Mac and Windows and presumably Linux and other platforms.

506
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But this is what's really beautiful about what's going on in this community we have.

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And you can become a member just by subscribing to the iPodder developers list.

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There's users and developers on there alike.

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I actually tally that and see how many people on the list think they're users

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and how many think they're developers or how many think they're both.

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Here's what Ray says, what I realized, I still really want to

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And that means I have to work on the iPodrx side of things.

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So he's basically saying goodbye to the iPodr team, wishing them well.

514
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He says, I wish you guys all the best.

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Think you're doing a great job and what's going to be the best cross-platform iPodr program.

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And so what we're seeing here is that, and this is the beautiful, this is the beauty

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of it, is that Ray just wants to work with August.

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It's not about having the most successful iPodr.

519
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It's not about, I don't think it's about money.

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It's about wanting to work with someone.

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And that's just beautiful when that stuff happens.

522
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So wish Ray and August good luck on the iPodrx.

523
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000
And I got a mail from Michael.

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Now this is not an easy name to pronounce.

525
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I'm going to say, Joaghan, Joagun, Joagun, well it's G-E-O-G-H-E-G-A-N.

526
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Michael, you really have to record an MP3 with the pronunciation of your name.

527
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,000
I had been working just kind of on the side with a couple of developers.

528
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:02,500
kicking back and forth the idea of, you know, what kind of genre do these podcasts fit into

529
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:08,500
and can you just put into the, when you're doing ID3 tags, so basically that's the metadata,

530
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:12,500
the information that you package into your MP3 file so that, you know, the name of your

531
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:16,500
show appears in the playlist.

532
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Well there's also a genre tag in the ID3 spec.

533
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I'm not going to go through the whole thing here, but Michael did a little bit of research.

534
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He says that there, let me see, what is it?

535
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There is an organization, TCON, I think, who have basically come up with all these different

536
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content types and so I've been just using speech which I think is content type 101.

537
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:52,500
And Michael gets into this and explains it technologically how apparently we can use

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the category and then put a podcast category behind that.

539
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I'm not quite sure how it's...

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to work yet, but the important thing is that we want to be able to categorize, first of all,

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just so that you can say podcast and every other MP3 player will understand, oh, a genre podcast.

542
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And if possible, it would be nice to say genre podcast sports, or music, or finance, or gardening,

543
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or whatever. And that'll just make it a lot easier for us to categorize stuff and find stuff

544
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000
on the user end, on the receiving end. So you can say, just give me all the,

545
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I want to make a playlist, a smart playlist is what we use in iTunes. I'm sure Windows Media has some.

546
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Just give me all the gardening shows followed by a financial show.

547
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Somewhere in there is some beauty to be found.

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We just got to figure out how we work with, and it's interesting, isn't it, that someone

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or somebody took the time to categorize and say, okay, here's the 200 categories that

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are possible and no one thought about a podcast.

551
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So we got to figure that one out.

552
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Quick bit here from Evil Genius Chronicles.

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You know our friend Dave Slusher sitting in South Carolina.

554
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He's running into some of the same issues that I am on my podcast, so I think I'm doing a

555
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little bit better today by mixing it up.

556
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Here's his podcast, Evil Genius Chronicles from yesterday.

557
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I got a big long list of stuff to talk about.

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00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,000
An important point, and we're going to come back to this because it really does actually

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matter, is I'm in Conway, South Carolina.

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We're near Myrtle Beach, but it's a little town near Myrtle Beach.

561
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We'll get back to that.

562
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That's like check off with the gun over the map.

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piece it will be fired before

564
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I've got some feedback I need to play and this should catch me up on all feedback.

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If you've emailed me audio feedback and you haven't heard it as of today,

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00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:55,500
it means I screwed up and forgot to play it. So feel free to send me a message reminding me I never played your feedback.

567
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:59,500
You don't have to send the file, it's entirely my bookkeeping.

568
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:01,500
It's just I forgot where I left off.

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And in honor of a new mic configuration, all feedback will be from guys named Mike.

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Here we go.

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00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:09,500
Hi Dave, Michael Gohagen here.

572
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:14,500
Recently on your show you've mentioned that you feel you might be discussing podcasting and

573
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:18,500
the whole iPod platform phenomenon almost too much.

574
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And frankly, I don't know how you talk about anything but podcasts.

575
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I mean you have a unique and kind of special situation where you're at the center of something

576
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:28,500
that is exploding all around you.

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And as it continues to grow, the quality work, the guys like you and Adam and some others are doing,

578
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:36,500
I just think is so important.

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You know, I really think a kind of a critical juncture is coming up here where the podcast

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podcasting community is going to start to get some attention from the outside, from some

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non-technical oriented people.

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When those first looks come from the media and other sources, I think that it's important

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that quality shows like yours and others, some of the other things being produced, are

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kind of at the center and the forefront so that it doesn't get dismissed as some sort

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of amateurish thing going on on the internet.

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00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,000
As more people get involved in this whole podcasting thing, and it's growing every

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day, I really think that kind of the watch words are going to be that quality is respected,

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and participation appreciates.

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And I don't know where we're going to be a year from now, but I really think you're

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paving the way.

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I know that I am the consummate podcasting consumer.

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I'm downloading these things in the middle of the night, loading them on my

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00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:31,000
iPod, listening to them in my car, or when and where I choose on my own schedule.

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I'm not a computer guy.

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00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,000
I'm not in the technical business, but I get it.

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All right, that's beautiful.

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00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,000
So a couple things about that.

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One, I really like the idea of sending a recorded feedback into a podcast.

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and playing that back. Great idea and I encourage you to send that to the daily source code as

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00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:54,500
well. And indeed, now that we're moving a little bit beyond the testing one, two, three, is my

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trend.

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We've got to start defining what we're doing and what these podcasts are about.

603
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,000
Now, it may very well be that Dave Slusher wants to continue talking about podcasting.

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00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,000
I think that's great because I'd love to say, hey, if you want to know what's going on

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with the latest podcast developments, here's the show you want to check out.

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00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Personally, what I want to try and do as I move a little bit away from all the podcasting

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00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,000
stuff and I still want to try and make it as friendly as possible so that when I talk

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about genres in your playlist, I'm hoping that the non-technical listeners are

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00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,000
saying, oh yeah, that would be good if I could sort it that way.

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So there's always going to be some of that.

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But I'm going to try and do what I've always done.

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Shit, I've always introduced videos, records, whatever.

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So I can do a mix of that and now add it to the mix is podcasts.

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And just give you an idea of what's out there.

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And of course, I want to point you to where you can subscribe to these.

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And then instead of getting out the URLs, and there's been a lot of discussion there,

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00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,000
what's the best way to talk about URLs in an audience?

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00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:05,500
show and a podcast or radio show, well that really is... excuse me. So the best way is

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00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:10,500
just to... anything I talk about, any shows I talk about will be in the podcast directory

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00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:16,500
on iPodder.org. Something I came across that was a nice complimentary podcast to an existing

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00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:17,500
blog is from...

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00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:24,500
photo blog and I've gotten a little bit into photo blogs. I'm not talking about a

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00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:28,500
mobile blog where you send stuff from your camera. I'm talking about real, you

624
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:34,500
know, the digital photography, beautiful pictures, settings and if you're into that

625
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:38,500
you'll know that with most modern-day cameras when they take a picture a lot

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00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:42,500
of information is encoded into that picture about what camera was used, what

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00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:46,500
shutter speed, what setting and so you know this so you don't have to write

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00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:50,500
all this down it just it's captured right into the picture and so there's a

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00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:54,500
great number of communities that are sharing this type of information and

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00:45:54,500 --> 00:46:00,500
just a quick bit from his podcast it was titled Monty Woods and it has to do

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00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:04,500
with a particular picture that he took.

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00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:11,500
Hello and welcome to my photo blog.

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00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:15,500
Today I'm going to do something different.

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I'm going to post a picture and make some comments on it.

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And attach this audio file to it and see if this generates some interest.

636
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Of course this could also be deep thoughts with Jack Handy.

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Or have some value for the viewers of my photo blog.

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The photo is titled, Double Rainbow over Monty's Woods.

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This picture was taken a couple weeks ago.

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So you clearly understand how the community can benefit from this type of podcast.

641
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:06,000
And also if you're just into yoga and want to relax, it's a great podcast to check out.

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00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:12,000
I was really pleased to see the first Engadget podcast up here on the scene.

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00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,000
The Engadget guys not only did they put their first podcast together, but they also did yet

644
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:23,000
another setup and explanation very detailed with all the right links.

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Engadget.com that's E-N-G-A-D-G-E-T dot com of course.

646
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:37,500
from this post from iPodder. And Gadget is already by itself just a great web log. These

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00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:42,500
guys basically have all the latest stuff on the latest gadgets and they've got secret

648
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:47,500
insight information. Sometimes they even get in trouble with these companies because

649
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:51,500
the traditional way of reviewing new gadgets is you leak something to your favorite reporter

650
00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:55,500
and then maybe they'll get a picture about

651
00:47:55,500 --> 00:48:01,500
And the trade shows, they're taking pictures behind with little camera phones.

652
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:04,500
They're getting intel from the Far East.

653
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:07,500
And this really pisses off a lot of companies.

654
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:14,500
get enough of this stuff. So they've already got a very established community going on.

655
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:22,500
They're now, as a part of the gadgetry, they decided to set up a podcast system, do it with

656
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:27,500
as much open source of free software as possible. And even that took them well over three hours

657
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and they had some good examples there from the stuff that Hugo Schochmann has done.

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talking about. They got it all together with an interesting new way of connecting all the

659
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bits by the way. So I might try that out on a show soon because they basically did a show

660
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:51,000
together through iChat. Quality isn't quite perfect yet but I think that has more to

661
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:57,000
do with the microphones than the setup. It's like at least one of the mics with the internal

662
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,000
mic because I think I can hear the fan noise which is, that's kind of the way it works

663
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,000
with the, I love the power book. So you have two speakers built into the power book

664
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,000
and the internal mic is actually in the left speaker and so of course if you're

665
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,000
doing an iChat and someone's talking then if you're using the internal mic it's

666
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,000
gonna you know it's gonna hear that speaker and it's gonna send that person's

667
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,000
voice right back and that wouldn't have been very good so Apple came up with a

668
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,000
brilliant solution and what you first think of is oh this voice filtering.

669
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,000
What they did is when you're doing an iChat the left speaker is disabled and

670
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:36,000
this person comes through the right speaker. It's very...

671
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:36,500
typical bootstrap fix there.

672
00:49:36,500 --> 00:49:41,500
So of course I listened to their first podcast

673
00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:44,500
and these guys are all over, they're smart,

674
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:45,500
they know what's going on,

675
00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:48,500
they know that there's business to be done with podcasting

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and they were talking about it.

677
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:52,500
And with like the FCC even coming down on Howard Stern,

678
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:56,500
why not just ride around that and offer subscriptions

679
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:57,500
or figure out ways.

680
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And I guess that'll be the next thing

681
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:01,500
is how to make money on this.

682
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:03,500
Yeah, I'm sure we'll see some of that coming out.

683
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:05,500
You can, like you said, I mean,

684
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:08,500
the FCC's involvement in actually being proactive

685
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about monitoring and censoring content,

686
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it actually changes the game here

687
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kind of like how satellite radio did

688
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with letting people pay for what they wanna hear.

689
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:19,500
And in some ways this goes a step further

690
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unless people create what they wanna hear.

691
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I mean, if you listen to some of the broadcasts

692
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for being created, whether it's Doc Searle's Linux show

693
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or Adam's broadcast with the Daily Source Code,

694
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I mean, Adam, it's really interesting.

695
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:33,500
This is a guy who's a professional broadcaster, right?

696
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He was on TV and...

697
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I think he's enjoying this sense of freedom to be able to go say what he wants and do what

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he wants.

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In fact, the other day I was listening to it, I don't know if you've noticed this, do

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you listen to his show?

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00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,000
Yeah, I've listened to three of them since I started poking around on this.

702
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Okay.

703
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So I've been listening to them all and the amazing thing is Adam actually smells mad

704
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,000
weed on the air.

705
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And so the really funny thing is you're sitting there and all of a sudden you hear

706
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,000
a lighter flick and a bull start or a bong start going in the background and Adam's

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sitting there taking hits on the air.

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He's talking about whatever he wants.

709
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,000
He's swearing, he's doing all this crazy stuff.

710
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,000
And you know, you just think about what he's doing.

711
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000
He's running his own media and his listeners.

712
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,000
So it's kind of busted him out into his own thing.

713
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:26,000
Yeah, I can't imagine having to pitch that as a show idea to someone.

714
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,000
So here's the thing.

715
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000
It's atmosphere, city, and house.

716
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,000
Smoke and weed, talking about technology.

717
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,000
And he gives away the content at the end of the show.

718
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,000
People are downloading it.

719
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,000
They can do it right.

720
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000
What do you think?

721
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000
I can see them going to the programming director.

722
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,000
So we're going to do this show where I call up Dave Winer

723
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,000
and we smoke weed on the phone and talk about technology

724
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,000
and whatever else.

725
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:51,000
No, no.

726
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,000
It's the graduate meets easy riders.

727
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,000
And then we play songs in weird remixes and mash-ups

728
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,000
of George Bush.

729
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,000
Exactly.

730
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,000
So I have some technology stories

731
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,000
that I kind of bookmarked for this broadcast.

732
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,000
If you want to talk about a couple fun things,

733
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,000
a couple of interesting things.

734
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,000
One of them is it's just a prediction.

735
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,000
I think speaking of iPods and this.

736
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:24,500
broadcasting thing. There's some rumors about whether there's going to be a flash

737
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:27,500
base iPod and flash bases and non hard drive.

738
00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:32,500
So there you go already straight into some good news and some tidbits there.

739
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:41,500
iPod and I think that's actually confirmed but listen to the Engadget podcast for more information on that and just a few notes about that

740
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:48,500
Now first of all you have to know I was raised in the Netherlands born in the States who moved here when I was seven and I remember quite well

741
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:54,500
Just to give you an idea of the culture of Europe and how that differs immediately media from the States

742
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:58,500
I'll never forget there was a show on the television in 1972

743
00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:02,500
Television in Netherlands consisted of two channels two national channels

744
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:06,500
They started at 7 p.m. With the news on both channels identical news was very much like Russia and

745
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:12,500
It ended around 11 30 with a clock, you know and then it went over to the

746
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:18,500
To the test pattern that was it time to go to bed make babies whatever come on good people of the lowlands go to bed

747
00:53:18,500 --> 00:53:24,500
And I'll never forget that like 7 30 there was the show on once or twice a week called chef on ukul's

748
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:28,500
Thing was disco show or whatever, but it was it was a wacky show

749
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:30,500
It was kind of like Benny Hill

750
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:35,500
In a way like yeah a bit of Benny Hill except the girl

751
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,000
that are running around are naked.

752
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000
I'll never forget my parents.

753
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000
Here we are, this all-American family.

754
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,000
And 730, I'm sitting there with my sister going,

755
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,000
dude, check this out.

756
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,000
What is going on?

757
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,000
I thought this was going to suck this movie.

758
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000
This is a great country.

759
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:58,000
So the human body is considered something that can be shown.

760
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Another part of the culture, in the Netherlands at least, not all over Europe, is that

761
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,000
people have their curtains wide open during the day.

762
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Please look into my house.

763
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,000
I want you to feel welcome.

764
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,000
When they're closed means you're not welcome, of course.

765
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:18,000
And obviously, when it comes to drug policy, who are we kidding?

766
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,000
Who are we kidding?

767
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000
So I am totally enjoying this freedom.

768
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000
I'm used to a lot of this freedom.

769
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000
I'm used to being able to...

770
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,000
What swear words am I really using?

771
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,000
I'm used to being myself.

772
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,000
That's the morning radio show I did.

773
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
I think part of the success of that.

774
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:41,500
for a year was because I was just being myself, just shooting the breeze.

775
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:42,500
Howard Stern is the same.

776
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:46,500
It may be one part of Howard Stern, but he's just being himself and he's saying what he's

777
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:51,500
thinking and he's saying hey, nice boobies, you know, because he means it.

778
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:53,500
And I think that's what people like, is honesty.

779
00:54:53,500 --> 00:55:00,500
We're so fucking tired of, you know, television screaming at us and editing in effects, particularly

780
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:03,500
editing, you know, concealing the real truth behind what happened.

781
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:03,500
All the reality shit.

782
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,000
from hours of tape and sound effects are put in and voiceovers, all to position you and

783
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,000
help your brain understand the story that they're trying to tell.

784
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,000
And people I think, that's why people go back to theater.

785
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,000
That's why actors go back to theater.

786
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,000
They want to have something real that's live and it's just not exciting after a while.

787
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,000
And I think that's what's happened with radio and I think that's why we're here

788
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,000
with podcasts.

789
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:32,000
The only freedom I haven't enjoyed, mind you, even in the very liberal United States

790
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:39,000
of Europe, which still doesn't have a constitution, is freedom of choice of music.

791
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,000
Now at MTV in the beginning we could say a lot more, but at a certain point it was you

792
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,000
can't rag on any artists.

793
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:49,000
You can't say Alana Miles, yeah, she's Miss Doug Morris who works for Atlantic Records.

794
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,000
You couldn't say that.

795
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,000
That was a big no-no.

796
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,000
You know, in fact we had to say Michael Jackson, the king of pop.

797
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,000
Did I ever tell you that story?

798
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,000
That MTV has always been pre-recorded except for some of the live events.

799
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:06,000
And on Thursday we record for Saturday and Sunday.

800
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,000
On Friday we record for months.

801
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:09,500
So it was a double shift on Thursday.

802
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:11,500
We had to do two shows worth.

803
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:12,500
So a lot of the VJs are there.

804
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:13,500
It's one after another.

805
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:14,500
We're taping these segments.

806
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:17,500
We didn't ever see the videos while we were taping, right?

807
00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:17,500
Those were in.

808
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,000
Long Island.

809
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,000
And so it was Michael Jackson weekend, all a part of the big Michael Jackson will only

810
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,000
appear on the Video Music Awards if we make Michael Jackson.

811
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,000
And we all had to come back on Friday and do three shifts.

812
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,000
So including Mondays, we had to do Saturday and Sunday over again because part of the deal

813
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:48,000
that was negotiated between MTV and Michael Jackson is that every single time we would

814
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,000
use his name, you would have to comma, pause and say the king of pot.

815
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,000
So it had to be Michael Jackson, the king of pot.

816
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:03,000
That freedom wasn't there to say Michael Jackson, who is still probably a really good musician

817
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,000
but looks so fucking freaky.

818
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:12,000
And even on the radio, the radio stations need to have some kind of automation.

819
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:18,000
They need to have some kind of playlist so that it's the way radio works in today's

820
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,000
commercial environment.

821
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,000
If you're talking top 40 stations, they're really only playing 100 records, if even that.

822
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,000
And they just repeat them over and over and over again because the top 40 station, your

823
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,000
average listening time is 15 minutes, if that.

824
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,000
And it better be a number one hit song playing when you tune in or a big hit from a recurrent

825
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,000
about 8 to 10 years ago.

826
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:46,000
Now other types of stations have a much like an easy listening or a mix, the best of

827
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,000
the 70s, 80s and 90s.

828
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,000
They'll have a little broader playlist but still you can't have the disc jockeys or the

829
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:57,000
air talent choosing the records all the time because you may get some weird doubles.

830
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,000
And of course all about control.

831
00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:02,500
know, there's business behind the records that are played.

832
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:04,500
So I've never been in control of what I wanted to play.

833
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:06,500
Yeah, you can always do one yourself.

834
00:58:06,500 --> 00:58:08,500
You can always switch stuff around the playlist if you want to.

835
00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:11,500
If you know the music directly.

836
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,000
But you never had that freedom.

837
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,000
And now not only do I have the freedom to do that,

838
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,000
but I have a library at my disposal

839
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,000
that is so humongous.

840
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,000
I've got everything, the Beach Boys.

841
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,000
I want to get some Beach Boys.

842
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000
I had good vibrations, but it was like a shitty MP3.

843
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,000
Only one minute of it.

844
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,000
Went to LimeWire, downloaded it, ready to go.

845
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,000
But it's not just for that.

846
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,000
There's podcasts will be archived

847
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,000
and will be stored on peer-to-peer networks.

848
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,000
It's a beautiful thing.

849
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,000
So back to the words, the cuss words, et cetera.

850
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,000
I think the only real thing I said is fuck.

851
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:57,000
I tried it, my daughter who's 14 also is trying to grok this whole concept of, why is this

852
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,000
word not good?

853
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,000
Why is this finger not good?

854
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:07,000
And there's no one who can explain the difference better than our friend, George Carlin, here

855
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:14,000
to give you the seven words you can't say on TV or radio for that matter, but in a podcast,

856
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,000
it's okay.

857
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,000
I love words.

858
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,000
I thank you for hearing my words.

859
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,000
I want to tell you something about words that I think is important.

860
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,000
I love, as I say, they're my work, they're my play, they're my passion.

861
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000
Words are all we have really.

862
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:33,000
We have thoughts, but thoughts are fluid, you know.

863
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,000
And then we assign a word to a thought.

864
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,000
And we're stuck with that word for that thought.

865
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,000
So be careful with words.

866
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,000
I like to think, yeah, the same words, you know, that hurt can heal.

867
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,000
It's a matter of how you pick them.

868
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,000
There are some people that aren't into all the words.

869
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,000
There are some people that would have you not use certain words.

870
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,000
Yeah, there are 400,000 words in the...

871
00:59:52,500 --> 01:00:03,500
language and there are seven of them you can't say on television. What a ratio that is. 399,993 to 7.

872
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,000
They must really be bad.

873
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,000
They'd have to be outrageous

874
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,000
to be separated from a group that large.

875
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,000
All of you over here, you seven.

876
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,000
Bad words.

877
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,000
That's what they told us they were, remember? That's a bad word.

878
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:33,000
No bad words. Bad thoughts. Bad intentions. And words.

879
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,000
You know the seven, don't you, that you can't say on television?

880
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,000
Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cock, sucka, motherfucker, and tits.

881
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:51,500
Those are the heavy sevens.

882
01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:55,500
Those are the ones that'll infect your soul,

883
01:00:56,500 --> 01:00:57,500
curve your spine,

884
01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:01,500
and keep the country from winning the war.

885
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:05,500
Shit piss fuck cunt cock fuck a motherfucker and tits, wow.

886
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:10,500
And tits doesn't even belong on the list, you know?

887
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:21,000
Such a friendly sounding word. Sounds like a nickname, right?

888
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,000
Hey, tits, come here!

889
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:31,500
Right, tits meet tuts, tuts tits, tuts tuts, man.

890
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:34,500
Sounds like a snack, doesn't it, man?

891
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:37,500
Yes, I know, it is, right.

892
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:42,500
And I don't mean your sexist snack.

893
01:01:42,500 --> 01:01:44,500
I mean new Nabisco tits!

894
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:48,500
New cheese tits

895
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:54,500
Corn tits and pizza tits and sesame tits onion tits

896
01:01:56,500 --> 01:01:58,500
Tater tits

897
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,000
Bet you can't eat just one!

898
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,500
I usually switch off

899
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,000
But I mean, that word does not belong on the list.

900
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:24,000
Actually, none of the words belong on the list, but you can understand why some of them are there.

901
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:30,000
I'm not completely insensitive to people's feelings, you know, I can dig why some of those words got on the list.

902
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,000
Like, cocksucker and motherfucker, those are...

903
01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:41,500
heavyweight words. There's a lot going on there.

904
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:52,000
Besides the literal translation and the emotional feeling, I mean, they're just busy words.

905
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,000
There's a lot of syllables to contend with.

906
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,000
And those K's, those regressive sounds, they jump out at you, man.

907
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,000
Cuckaboo, the fucker!

908
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:06,500
like an assault on you, you know?

909
01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:07,500
I can dig, then.

910
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:11,500
Now, we mentioned shit earlier, of course, and, uh,

911
01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:14,500
two of the other four-letter Anglo-Saxon words are piss and cunt,

912
01:03:14,500 --> 01:03:16,500
which go together, of course, but forget about it.

913
01:03:18,500 --> 01:03:20,500
Little accidental humor, I further.

914
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:25,500
The reason the piss and cunt are on the list is that a long time ago

915
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,000
I don't mind fucking shit, but PNC are a-

916
01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:35,500
P and C are...

917
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:44,500
glad to such stupid sentences is okay you fuckers I'm going to take them now

918
01:03:58,500 --> 01:04:00,500
Of course, the word fuck.

919
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,000
Fuck I don't really love his some more accidental humor. I don't really want to get into that now

920
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:14,000
because I think it takes too long but I do mean that I mean I think the word fuck

921
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:19,000
is a very important word it's beginning of life and yet it's a word we use to

922
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:24,000
hurt one another quite often and people much wiser than I have said I'd rather

923
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,000
have my son watch a film with two people

924
01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:31,500
people trying to kill one another and I of course can agree it's a great sentiment

925
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,500
I wish I know who said it first and I agree with that but

926
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,000
I'd like to substitute the word fuck for the word kill

927
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,000
in all those movie cliches we grew up with, right?

928
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,000
Okay, Sheriff, we're gonna fuck you now!

929
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,000
But we're gonna fuck you slow!

930
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,000
So maybe next year I'll have a whole fucking rap on that word and I hope so.

931
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:12,000
There are two way words, those are the seven you can never say on television under any circumstances.

932
01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:21,500
Forget those seven, they're out.

933
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:24,500
But there are some two-way words, those double meaning words.

934
01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:26,500
Remember the ones you giggled at in sixth grade?

935
01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:27,500
And the cockroach three times!

936
01:05:27,500 --> 01:05:29,500
Say the cockroach three times!

937
01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:32,500
It's in the Bible!

938
01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:40,500
There are some two-way words like it's okay for Kurt Gowdy to say Roberto Canetti has two balls on him!

939
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:46,500
I can't say I think he heard his balls on that play, Tony.

940
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,000
Please don't even... He must have hurt them by now.

941
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,000
And the other two-way word that goes with that one is prick.

942
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,000
It's okay if it goes to your finger.

943
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:13,000
Yes, you can prick your finger, but don't finger your prick, no, no.

944
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:20,000
The always amazing George Carlin with a classic, classic routine, the seven dirty words you

945
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,000
can't say, some words you can't say on television.

946
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And I think that really sums it up, you know.

947
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We just go on a little bit overboard with the word usage in English language at least.

948
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And which reminds me, I really should cue up some Eddie Murphy for you next time.

949
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You know, I've played a couple of George Carlin bits.

950
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Eddie Murphy would be good too.

951
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He's got some classic bits.

952
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And podcasts are great for comedy because, you know, we still have the freedom to do

953
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what we want on them.

954
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So if you, you know, you comedians, give us the joke of the day.

955
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Give us the Italian pickup line of the day.

956
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Give us anything.

957
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We're looking forward to it.

958
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And that's it for the source code for today.

959
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I tried to keep it to an hour, but George Carlin ran just a little bit long.

960
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We're about to...

961
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And I want to thank you very much for checking the show out.

962
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Of course, the Daily Source Code is recorded live in front of a K9 studio audience from Flanders.

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If you want to respond, email me at www.curry.com

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See you tomorrow everybody, bye!

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