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Everybody, thank God, it's Friday!

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Welcome to the Daily Source Code for Friday October 15th, 2004.

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My name is Adam Curry.

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Coming to you from Flander's Belgium from Curry Castle

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as the girls are starting to tear everything down around me.

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The echo is getting larger every day.

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We're in the middle of packing up for our move to the United Kingdom

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and the drapes are down.

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As you walk through the hallways here, you can now hear your footsteps again

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as the paintings are coming off the wall.

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Gold records, awards, newspaper articles, all that kind of stuff

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is all getting put into boxes.

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And actually the girls joke at me, my wife and my daughter are saying,

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you know, what's going to happen is in about five weeks time.

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Everything's going to be done.

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The only thing to be left standing when the moopers are done is me standing

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over my laptop with my microphone and my iPod and its charging stand.

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It gets worse.

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So I look towards the weekend and which is nice.

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Although the weather here isn't too nice in fact,

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this is a kind of dreary day.

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And we're entering what I call the tunnel here in the lowlands.

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It's kind of like a big car wash.

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And you go in, it's just all wet and slimy.

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And somewhere near March or April, you start to see the light at the end of the tunnel

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and it comes on out.

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Anyway, the good news, despite the weather today,

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is that we're back with bandwidth.

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Yes, welcome to the show that teaches you how to cruise around

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Europe on one gig a day.

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Because that's apparently what I get.

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If you average out the month, having 30 days,

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it's 30 gigs per month, one gig a day.

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And of course yesterday was a very low bandwidth day.

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And today I'm up to 95% of my total quota.

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So, hey baby.

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Sorry.

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You told Mr. Who about the iPod?

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Mr. What is he?

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Oh, the guy, that's the dude who was burning CDs.

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Okay, Christina just came home.

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He runs at school with bandwidth.

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He was?

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His neighbors don't have secured bandwidth, so he never uses his own.

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Oh, so he steals their Wi-Fi.

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Cool.

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And was he going to try iPod or?

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Yes.

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Now it's iPod.org.

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Okay.

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Do you want to do a video for my answer, please?

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Thank you.

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Okay. Well, that was well-timed.

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That was Christina.

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Cool.

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As I was just introing the show,

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and apparently her one of her teachers is checking out iPod.

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Speaking of the move for the house,

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and for everything over there,

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and also for moving to the UK,

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I have to get a couple of references,

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obviously you need bank references and stuff like that,

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but you also need a personal reference.

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And a buddy of mine, actually the first guy who taught me,

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or who gave me my first helicopter lessons,

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I won't say he taught me how to fly,

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but he certainly gave me my first three hours worth of training,

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was Stu mold pilot that we'd hired when we had the helicopter company.

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Retired RAF pilot,

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he denies it, but I'm pretty sure he was SIS,

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you know, secret air services and all that shit.

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And very nice guy, Brett,

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and just to give you a little example of British humor.

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So I sent him off an email and I said,

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you know, dude, would you,

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right now he's flying for the Yorkshire police.

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He flies their MD 902 or 900 helicopter.

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And I said, you know, would you be a reference for me?

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And I said, cousin, you know, we're moving.

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And he says, hey, I'm good to hear from you again.

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Must say I'm a little shocked,

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you're moving to the UK.

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Everyone here is looking for a way out.

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You do realize the country's full of Arab terrorists running

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drug and prostitution rings, the health services failed.

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to make way for others.

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The transport system, any of it, doesn't work.

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The police have lost the plot,

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taxation has never been higher,

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and just when we thought things couldn't get worse,

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they are forecasting the coldest winter in the UK for years.

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And you want to move here.

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Please don't tell me you're going to sell the lovely house in Belgium

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or is this another pad you're just thinking of buying.

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Anyway, we want to go is really nice.

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It's at least it was last time I was there.

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Very English and far too expensive for asylum seekers,

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We would only be too happy to provide a reference for you.

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So long as I don't have to vouch for your sanity.

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about the idea indeed.

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So that's the ride British humor for you.

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We got lots of cool stuff to talk about in the play.

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In today's edition, we'll probably run about 45 minutes.

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And I was looking for the perfect song to play today,

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because of course I want to try and find tracks that you remember

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you really like, but just don't hear on the radio anymore.

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And you don't hear enough super-trap.

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Goodbye Stranger on the Friday Edition of your daily source code.

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find a Wi-Fi hot spot living in where we live here out in the sticks. Well, unless I had

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we'd go war driving I might find something but I'd never really done that in the city nearby

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or in the town nearby I should say. So I took advice from a hot spot locator and I was supposed

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to be a commercial hot spot at a total gas station on the E19 Highway which runs from France

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all the way up north to the Netherlands. That's about 15 minutes from my house so I went over there

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of course no hot spot at all and you know go and ask the gas station attendant right.

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So I remember that I had installed a couple of EMAX at Christina's old school two or three years ago

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and drove over and sure enough popped up the network now the school was closed so I had to

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sit in my car because it was raining and the only way to get the signal and I posted a picture on

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curry.com. The only way to get a signal was to roll down the window, have the the butt of the

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laptop sticking out of the window about two inches and because it was raining I had my laptop

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case on top of it and I had to hold everything you know kind of just so for about 47 minutes.

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So it was interesting because I was also downloading ran a run eye part and I was downloading

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the latest shows and listening to them at the same time and I was just about you know 20 minutes

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to spare on the battery with the upload and the download so glad it made it up finally.

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And when I talked a day a little bit about NPR National Public Radio in the United States

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and podcasting. Now I've been talking to Tony Khan who has arranged for a podcast feed

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of morning stories and you can find that in the podcast directory under radio and public radio.

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And the more I think about it the more I realize how perfect this is for public radio because

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public radio is although listener supported you know they've got money they've got lots and

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lots of money now like any big organization an NPR is huge you know there's agendas and and people

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have you know there's nepotism and friends and links and all kinds of stuff so this stuff is not

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going to go extremely fast but from the programmers the people who are making the programs

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they see this opportunity and they're jumping at it at least you know the early adopters are like

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Tony Khan who by the way please I've pointed to his biography before check them out this guy's

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a pioneer, a legend, a legend in public radio and I hope it doesn't mind me saying he's been around

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forever but he's and we're going to do some podcasting together when I try to do an interview

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do a show and he's getting a lot of public radio program makers radio program makers very

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interested in podcasting and I think it's a perfect avenue for all the stuff that NPR just

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doesn't have time for you know just doesn't have time for and in fact knowing a little bit

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about a public radio and having work for several pubcasters the world over the largest problem

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public well certainly public radio has is the commercial competition you know because they have

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more money bigger budgets and they create lower quality crap so this is the way to you know jump in

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jump in early jump in now and expand your audience just so infinitesimally you know you

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would expand it so there's such a degree um I really just you know all the all the possibilities

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are just completely mind boggling and people are already we're already doing this they're already

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and I'm finding these and people sending me pointers to them there are so many different

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applications that will record your favorite NPR show you know in in MP3 so you can put on your

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MP3 players some of them might even put it on your MP3 player I mean there's a whole service a company that

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you know VC and venture cap was invested in um what is it called sound I can't remember the name of

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that company I'll look it up I've pointed to it before they let you subscribe so they give you a

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proprietary iPodder and probably do some encoding on the files so you can't you know steal them

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and they charge you a subscription like well but we're already paying I mean I've I've contributed

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to NPR why should I have to pay to subscribe to get NPR when I can you know record it myself and do

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that time shift really why don't we as the finance years of NPR demand you know hey this is great

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this is where we want our money to go we want it to be on the air absolutely we also want to be on

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iPods so so I'm looking forward to doing more with Tony and supporting him and what he's doing

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because I'm sure because of his background he has some good connection of his own and it's really

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pushing this stuff and there's some technical people on the inside of NPR at least at WGBH

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who really understand this and are pushing from from the bottom up as it were and Dave did a Dave

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whiner did a an interview with public radio and Minnesota on Future Tense show hosted by John Gordon

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and I'll play this for you it's about five five minutes and well Dave of course is playing the

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same the same flute you know Pied Piper's here and inviting NPR in again in this piece now they

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only have a real stream available and I'm just realizing now I probably could have hijacked that

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and turn it into into an MD3 but that may be more fun if if we try to you know go through the

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trials and tribulations of playing a real stream together so let's see if it's four minutes and 58

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seconds if you want to skip ahead but I think you want to listen to every single word so I'm going to hit

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it now it's contacting host let's see if yet loading listening to the internet this is future

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tense from American public media on John Gordon it's called podcasting and it might be the hottest new

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thing on the internet a podcast is a talk or music radio show that sent directly to an iPod or

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other digital music player through your computer it's a new take on the growing technology called

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RSS that pushes text-based web content to computers but with podcasting listener subscribes to audio

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feeds podcasting derives its name from the popular iPod player so far it seems to be an outlet

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mostly for unpolished sounding bloggers and pirate radio enthusiasts hello again it's Brian

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support of a podcast and it's October 13th 2004 that opening clip was private life by

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Oingo going go go out and look for it. This isn't going to be a standard sort of rant I don't think

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I have a point to make don't know whether I will do that successfully or not

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some of you probably will want to tune out main stream broadcasters like new station

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KOMO in Seattle and Boston Public Radio Station WGBH are beginning to offer podcasts and observers

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see great commercial potential in podcasting technology industry veteran Dave Weiner is a

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blogging pioneer and a podcasting advocate he says you can think of podcasts as a sort of

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Tivo for radio it's like broadcasting the two in iPod and then take it with you wherever you want

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and you listen to the shows that you want to listen to when you want to listen to them so you get

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you know geographical choice so you can listen to the for example you listen to a radio show on

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which is something that you wouldn't be able to do before or you could listen to a radio show

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that was local to by for example San Francisco radio station KGO has a talk show that I like to listen to

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and if I wasn't Seattle so you know but now I can listen to it because I can just move it over to my

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iPod and then take it with me when I go for a walk or when I write on the train or drive somewhere

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so it's giving me choice that's the that's the big deal that podcast and we're in a radio

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listen to sort of like well I'll take my chances of what's available on the air being like

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after the time listening with podcasting I get the control I get the power 10 days ago I'd never

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heard of podcasting and in those 10 days I've had several people say you got to do a story on podcast

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and you got up your show has to be podcasted now what happened this amazing all this

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amazing and it's the first time I've been in the tech industry now for about 25 years and

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this is the first time I've ever seen adoption happen this quickly part of the reason it's been

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possible is because of the increased communication that we have through these of weblobs

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news can travel much more quickly now and so when something new comes along it sort of sparks

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everywhere in the imagination like this as or obviously everyone but so many people's imagination

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that that it just you know it's a very efficient we have a very efficient communication system now

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the reason why everyone's telling you about it is because it's you know RSS which is the technology

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that this is built on top of has been something that has been slowly growing through all you know

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forms of journalism amateur professional but it's been print because you know it's what it's been

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about reading text on a computer screen what's new here is is that now there's a way for a

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radio programming to participate in the RSS revolution and so that's why everybody's telling you

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that it's time to do it because we want your contact we want your show available this format and

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and it's you know and I don't doubt that we're going to get what we want. I wonder if this will be like

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other internet applications where yes lots of people will sort of self publish or do their own

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radio shows but it will still be the big guys who have the most audience or the most listeners.

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Maybe so but at least it'll be a little playing field so that the barrier's entry will be

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that substantial. Dave Winner writes the popular weblog scripting news. He also hosts a podcast

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with blogger Adam Curry who you may remember from the early days of MTV. Hey Vanessa news

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good morning or good evening depending on where you are welcome to trade secrets on that I'm

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curry in Belgium. Dave Haskell. Dave Winner at five a.m. in Seattle. You're such a trooper Dave.

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This is a speech I'm John Gordon. Okay future cast John Gordon pretty good piece there although

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the choice of audio clips of course makes me chuckle you know if you choose all the bits where

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people are saying I don't know if anyone's listening I don't know if you care what I'm about to say

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so maybe a little bit slanted there for the to accentuate the point but totally understood.

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Then I was listening to that a couple of things that pumped in the mind one is on traditional

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radio you can train to formats and that's just the way it works you know you have a top 40

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station old station classical station talk news news sports all sports you know these are formats

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people are cruising around the dial that's how they cruise or that's what the belief is is

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I just you know I want I want to hear some news now boom you got to hear some news got to be news

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immediately and you know when people are going to switch because all the stations in one market

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know exactly when the commercials are running on one station the top 40 stations used to have

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lights that would pop up that I worked at when the when the competitor was in the commercials

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so that we could hit some music so that when people got bored around three minutes in the

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commercials that read it to switch stations boom we played the biggest hit we have I mean this

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is very competitive environment but so it's always going to be music you know so you're not

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going to have a station that when you when you when people are switching looking for a music

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station that there's something there that you know they're not expecting or they're not looking for

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with the podcast you know you can put everything together make you're on a little specialized

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station where it's much more about you know about the personality granted you're probably

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going to get less of a wide audience but the audience will be very dedicated to that topic so

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that's how radio works this is the beauty of all this I've been waiting this for this to happen

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for 10 years since the first day I saw a modem and someone pushing PCM encoded audio through a

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56k modem I said this is broadcasting I know how to do this we got to make the broadcast part work

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and it turned out completely different I had no idea that it would I thought it was going to be

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streaming and then I saw them revenue modeled and work on that and this is clearly the way to go

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and and I guarantee you that people with iPods will listen to the radio shows on iPods

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through whatever means they get on if it's iPod or something it looks like it as long as

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I don't have to pay for it I guarantee they're also going to listen to the commercials just

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make them entertaining they can fun again you know you don't you're not constrained to your

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22nd or 32nd or 22nd or 22nd with a 10 second tag somewhere else it's you can do all kinds of

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new things create be creative every ball that also I just want to say again that the big O wow

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factor here is that we as and I'll just call us consumers for a moment here have been marketed that

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this you know just the way playlists are set up in in MP3 players you're conditioned to think of them as

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tracks as music as you know you can download music and put it on it's yeah maybe the exception

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is an audio book but pretty much I think still the whole mass market is focused and has been

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conditioned to focus on music as being what you put on these MP3 players and no one really ever thought

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about it and then we came along with with his iPod idea and then you know we kind of forced the

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issue where once you subscribe then you're going to find out that hey we can put other things

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on these iPods and it function is at a whole different device and I think that's what the real

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magic is here is people are saying oh wow you know this also and I have something that's even

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more valuable than I thought it was and again I think people are just very bored with with the

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choice that they have on radio not that radio is boring far be it for me to say that but

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certainly certainly needs some more choice let's talk about the cost of podcasting for second

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my cost these days is about $10 a show and that's because I use this fancy wireless mic

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setup that takes two nine volt batteries and I was buying my regular pair of batteries the other

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day I always have four on hand and I looked at the price and I said actually it's more expensive

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this five euros per nine volt battery five euros that's like six bucks and I said you know

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excuse me why is this so you know why does this so expensive and lady in the store said oh that's

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all taxes I said oh really what kind of taxes oh it's it's taxes for the environment

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this is legislation that wants to convince you to use rechargeable batteries you know what I am

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fucking convinced so tomorrow I go out and buy me some rechargeable batteries because this is just

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this is could get an out of hand let's see um right I got so talk about the iPodder.org

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directory this is also something very exciting just like the iPodder developers were were you know

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developing iPodders now we have other people who maybe not is technically inclined but really

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want to help out was what we're doing and they're helping out by building this open directory

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through a format called OPML outline process or markup language and Aldo Castaneda had been emailing

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me back and forth and he's interested in business and finance and I think he might still be at school

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university let me see if I can um oh anyway he did I remember he did ask about making money on

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the trade secrets we played an audio clip from him and he's now managing the law uh node as well as

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business and finance and he sent me a node here he says uh actually he says am I missing something

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technology wise that makes this idea suck and I'll tell you what the idea was of the answer is no

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he says he wants an audio update of new stuff in the category and I think that's a great idea so

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if you go down to uh if you go into a category and in this case Aldo is hosting that category himself

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so if there's something new you could provide a podcast so just another podcast feed which is an RSS

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2.0 feed with enclosures pointing to an MP3 file where you can update people on new shows coming

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into your directory they'll receive it automatically through their iPod or right uh and you can play

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a snippet or something that they will give people a good idea of what um what that's about what that

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shows about and then help them uh go uh to your node and subscribe so I think it's a great idea oh

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I was speaking of uh the OPML directory um I got an audio comment about that

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hello Adam this is Justin Walgreens from Lost Cruces New Mexico

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I had a comment on the feedback you played on Thursday's Daily Source Code regarding the fact that the

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OPML directory does not have descriptions for the feeds uh I think the directory itself the OPML code should

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stay the way it is uh just a list of uh XML RSS feeds displaying the title and the description for the RSS

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feed should be the job of the viewer and should not be encoded into the XML itself because people

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could change the description on their feed I'm working on my own version of iPod or written in

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Coco for uh macOS 10 Panther uh which supports this feature and certainly the web interface that is

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parsing the OPML and displaying it at ipod.org could be modified to do the same thing uh so that's

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my two cents thanks for listening uh love the source code keep it up. Excellent okay thank you very

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much so a couple things there first of all is developing a Coco iPod which is great news and he's

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apparently already incorporating the iPod directory OPML into that so what he's saying is that we should

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let some of that stuff like pulling in the information from the channel from the RSS feeds uh that

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should be handled by uh by the iPod or client and I don't know but I sure hope you're uh posting to the

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iPod or developer list uh you can uh just go to the iPod.org home page and you can see uh on the

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on the links there's the link to the mailing list so please join that the more the merrier and uh

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I've seen a couple other people uh looking at integrating this and uh remember I told you about

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the servers that Dave and I purchased oh by the way I'm still not verified now I've uh I'm trying

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to get a hold of them to get a fax number to send off my credit card and uh and my passport

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being the European that I am um uh Dave is set his up uh uh for podcast pings now if you've ever

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been to weblogs.com you know that that's the place that you go to see if a weblog is updated uh

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there's an HTML interface so you just go to weblogs.com and it tells you what weblogs have been updated in the

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past a few hours and you can step through it to go back more hours if you wish the way this works is

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just about all blogging software these days either does it automatically your provides a place

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for you to enter a URL to issue this ping now the reason why this is important is because at the

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at the back end of weblogs.com is an XML file called changes.xml I think there's also a

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recently change or small changes.xml to lower you know the bandwidth on people requesting this file

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but with this file that's something that we could integrate into the iPodders so you could do all

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kinds of stuff with that you could fire off emails when a podcast you subscribed to was updated

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you could make it bold in a window you could just provide a channel guide and say here here's

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something new that popped up if it's not in the subscriptions list so a whole bunch of things we

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can do and I'm really excited about that and I think I'm pretty sure Dave is going to do some

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bootstrapping to get some data in there and this particular source code will of course ping

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the URL so you'll at least see my my my podcast show up in the changes.xml so that's kind of for

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the developers there also funny Dave recorded actually he I think he even called it is very first

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official podcast it was so excited about Google desktop search that he installed it and while it was

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running and indexing he he recorded a podcast and he did it on his older machine which I'll have to

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say is probably not the most stable thing around or it's it's been known to do some funky stuff

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and he's got a lot of shit running on his aggregator and stuff so you know this is why I always

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recorded a iFF before and then compressed the MP3 later is because if your machine gets a CPU glitch

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you can skip and it'll actually skip in the encoding and most software packages will even tell you

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so I'm not gonna play it because it's so hurtful but it was I'm sure Dave was telling a great

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story and he was talking about fractional HTTP servers and whoops and how oh no second now I'm

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getting the funky stuff here from from my setup okay he was talking about how radio had that in the

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beginning with using port 5335 and it was great but it was just skipping through the whole thing

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you could barely hear a word he was saying so as far as I can insert so far Google desktop search

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which of course doesn't run in the Mac totally blows because it screwed up my life and I think I just

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thought Dave posted he'd actually he was able to successfully uninstall it and now his machine is

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back to normal but the whole concept I think is good and it's definitely a daring move of Google to

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do that unfortunately it doesn't work for the Mac and it's not gonna you know even if it did run

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on the Mac it wouldn't track any of my files because it you know it looks for outlook messages and

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stuff like that okay we're about 32 minutes into the source codes podcast for today by the way

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a lot of people talking about the name podcast where that came from I can't remember who it was

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that that that registered podcast dot com so that's the the guy that probably came with it first

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Dave slushle remember because he saw it in his refer logs but I'm not actually doing a podcast here

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you know I'm doing a podcast you you you must have misunderstood me all right so I said hi to a

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dawn of the dawn of drew shade the show yesterday on the source code because he's talking about me

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and well they played the clip on their own show and here's a dawn's response

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he told me put on this sexy voice the directory yeah he got a quiet because he doesn't want

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his wife to hear Adam Curry you're so busted you're right if my wife actually what I was

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doing now yeah quite honestly her sister listens and then calls her up and tells her what I said

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wait so I'm in love with Adam Curry that's what he says he's out at me he doesn't know if that's

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gonna cause me to get divorced then I'll have to move with him we could get divorced on the show

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because of that tune in next time to find out what happens in the continuing saga of dawn to

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an Adam whoa something's really funky about my setup today home on a second there we go

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is it still recording uh that's hard to tell yeah it is oh man this is just not my day okay let's

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move along now so that was a bit from dawn and drew here's something really cool that came in on

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the portalette podcast now it's a Brian who who does the show he told me that he had to work

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as office and he was using a Mac G4Q I have one of those at the office in Amsterdam I love the

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machine but indeed it's a lot sorely lacking internal microphone or even a lining put so he'd

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have to use a griffin eye mic or some other USB device but he came up with a whole different concept

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and I'd never and I don't know if he was doing this on a Mac or if he was using the natural

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voices from AT&T I mean I gotta have this whoever put this out I hope it works on a Mac

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listen to the quality of this text to speech in the recent portalette podcast

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it's October 14th 2004 and this is the portalette podcast Brian had to work late tonight so

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he has asked me his computer to fill in for him you'll have to forgive me this is my first time

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so I'm not exactly sure what to do now do you hear this I mean I've heard a lot of text to

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speech synthesis but this is really good I mean this is like an actual voice yeah it's a little

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burpy here in there but it's not hard to parse at all why don't I just start off with a little news

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and updates the podcast seems to be going well he has been getting a lot of email from people all

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over the place he asked me to respond to the guy who asked about the mixer he's using

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it's a six channel and it's made by Samsung now here's what's cool is he has other voices

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even with accents and he puts those in and then when they talk together it's it's crazy

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hey everybody look who's here it's Mark Stingpet Alfonso don't any chicks right in

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unfortunately no what are you doing I'm podcasting what's that it's like blogging

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but only with audio that's sad real sad I know I like to better when he was down here late

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doing what it's word or what you got in your browser cash just a bunch of mp3 files now

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then I got a woman in there and an English guy and it's great I really love it and I

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I wouldn't mind listening to an audio book that way if you could put if you have if you have a

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novel and you put in uh different voices with different characters I think it would work so I

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got to find out what that is that's excellent stuff I hope it's not windows only because I really like

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it and then another uh whacked out idea that I that I received from Andrew Woolridge

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um see uh I'll just read his email to you so if you listen to your podcast on my laptop while

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writing home on the train here at San Francisco very cool had a minor brainstorm regarding regarding

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podcasting wanted to relate to you what if you combine podcasting with geocaching mean imagine if

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you were going to a certain location in your geocache say to the top of a hill overlooking a nice ocean

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before you left you went to podcasting.org or something and downloaded all the comments stories or

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whatever you have about the location then when you got there you could listen to all the stories or

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impressions of all the people who had visited that location so I think what he's saying here and this

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sounds really cool is to create a podcast feed based on geographic location so indeed you could have

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a database and these already exist it look into geocaching people are way into handheld GPS devices

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and doing treasure hunts and uh and uh even walking tours you know so you can get uh points of interest

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and where to walk and little pop up and tell you you know what's interesting about that particular

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particular point imagine leaving you know like comments in midair so if if you are on a certain

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bridge in Amsterdam um that well let's just really imagine fast forward right and there would be a

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feed for that particular geographic location or anything within uh you know within a 20 meter radius

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and you could download that and and it would put on your iPod or maybe it would you download an

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entire walking tour and once you hit a certain location it would give you the files I mean I just like

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the idea of having space being trackable where you are and I always love the the museum tours

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remember those are kids and you put in the earphones the Smithsonian probably still has it

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or they have updated versions shit they had one at the uh uh uh and Pompeii they had an audio

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walking tour um you know just think of all the the possibilities of that I think it's uh pretty

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outrageous okay one more bit that I want to play from the Engaget podcast uh these guys are really

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on fire they're already at a you know fantastic community with uh Engaget.com and they do a uh

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I guess mom maybe a twice a week podcast now and Len it's Lenin Phil who are on the show is

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doing something pretty exciting and upcoming a Riley conference. So speaking of a Riley and good

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folks over there um something cool came up the other day through you and I um where they're looking

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for some cool sessions to do at their macOS 10 conference that's happening um the week of the 20

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year fifth I think it's the 25th through the 28th and um turns out they were looking to do a session

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on podcasting and they came to the good current and gadget and um I'm gonna do the sessions.

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Yep so it's pretty cool I'm gonna do a session about podcasting everything about it how to

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consume how to create and how to distribute podcasts and uh we're gonna talk about how to do it on

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the mac we're gonna talk a little bit about how to do it on the PC so um should be pretty cool if

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anyone's listening it's going to the conference pop up and tell us how we're doing. Yeah I uh I

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think it'll be interesting I can't make it because it's my anniversary and the last year I was in

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China and I got forgiven for that because I was literally China um yeah dude dude dude it's okay

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it's okay we understand you don't have to go anniversary totally get it rocked the situation

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so um look forward to that and I think only appropriate now to say of course that November 6

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will have a huge um podcasting session session I should say uh get together I'm just leading the

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session everyone's gonna be hanging out podcasting recording god knows what bring your boombox bring

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your speakers your amplifiers your microphones November 6 in Palo Alto uh it's gonna be

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you blast and that's it for the source code for today I'm ready for the weekend how about you guys

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huh that's it for October 15 Friday 2004 thank you very much for listening

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we might get a trade secret cut over the weekend uh like and uh get Dave up at a reasonable

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hour to do that he's got his new computer installed um and of course Monday we'll back with another

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