1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:24,560 Welcome to your source code for Friday, October 22nd, 2004, brought to you on Saturday, October 2 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Good morning. It's really early here in Belgium. I'm reclined in the big green thing, which is the 3 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:41,840 chair that I've slept with me for most of my life, a huge leather recliner, a green leather recliner. 4 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:48,480 Everyone's still asleep. I was up really early this morning around six o'clock for a number of reasons, 5 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:53,760 which I'll be happy to tell you. Obviously, didn't get to have sex last night. Otherwise, 6 00:00:54,080 --> 00:01:00,400 probably would have slept a little bit longer. That was my excuse for not bringing you a source code, 7 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,840 so I figured, didn't get any, might as give you some, right? 8 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,720 So we're going to make a kind of a mellow source code for this morning. The reason I was, well, first 9 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:20,640 all I went to bed last night, we all went to bed around 11 o'clock, and I had a splitting headache, 10 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:26,720 which is probably cold and dozed. You can hear a little bit of nasal sound this morning on the 11 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:32,640 old Kermister. Patricia has also been kind. I was just a flu bug. It's been going around. She even 12 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:40,880 got a flu shot, but she still has a little bit of a sore throat and Christina Porkid. She stayed home 13 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:48,320 the first two days. In Tuesday, she stayed home from school, and she went back and she was standing 14 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,720 next to her bed around 615 and she got already breezed. She was so stuffed up and had a headache and 15 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:58,800 a throat ache and sucks when kids are sick. So of course, you know, when that happens, I wake up. 16 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,480 Actually, I didn't know what day it was. I woke up like, oh, that was probably time to get Christina 17 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:08,000 to school, you know, 630s when we usually get up, 637 to clock. And I was downstairs. I was 18 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,880 ready to turn on a morning radio show, you know, listen to some guys I know, like, oh, wait a minute, 19 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:18,640 Saturday morning. And it's raining. It's, uh, it's not, well, I'm sorry. That isn't rain. That's 20 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:24,880 liquid sunshine. And it's not a very nice day here in in Flander's Belgium, but I figured we 21 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,440 just do a nice cool relax Saturday source code. Hopefully you're listening to this in the morning 22 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:37,680 yourself. Um, and let's see last night, um, well, I had a whole bunch. I got to tell you, I have to 23 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,640 stop setting meetings on Friday because at the end of the week, I'm already tired. And if I get home 24 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:47,520 late and I'm stuck in traffic, it's so hard to, you know, to get up the energy to record a show. 25 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,000 Even though I usually have everything all prepped and ready to go, it's like, pool. And then 26 00:02:52,000 --> 00:03:00,320 last night at 9 o'clock, which was 12 noon West Coast, three PM East Coast time. I was a guest 27 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,520 with Dave Winner, Michael Budraying, Craying. On the Gilmore gang, which I've been waiting for, 28 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,840 for that to happen for a long time. Really, ever since I heard the Gilmore gang, like, yeah, I 29 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,800 wanted to be on that show. So Steve Gilmore invited Dave and I on the show. And so that was an 30 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:20,000 hour long taping. It's, it's life to, to tape or live to disk, actually. Uh, so it had to be done 31 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,360 between 9 and 10. A couple of quick observations about that. So of course, it was about podcasting. 32 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,600 The show was already up. So please go check it out. If you haven't already gotten through your iPod 33 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:35,920 or subscription. Um, uh, a special guest is what on the show. And Steve was really excited about it. 34 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,360 As were the other members of the gang, was the fire sign theater, or three guys from the fire 35 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,920 sign theater. And I have to be honest, uh, so you call into this, this telephone system right 36 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:51,040 and you hear like beep beep and you already hear people talking. And, uh, and, and Steve was really 37 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,680 excited that he had had the fire sign theater on. And to be quite honest, I'd heard a fire sign 38 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,160 theater, but of course, I'd never heard it. This is from the 60s. These guys were, you know, 39 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,680 apparently they really revolutionized radio and, and are pretty much the fundamental building 40 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:11,920 block on which even podcasting is, uh, is based today. Uh, so while we were getting ready, I was 41 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:17,600 like surfing the web and Googling and trying to find out as much as I could. Um, uh, and what was great 42 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,360 is, and you have to listen to show. These guys got it within like 33 minutes. They understood 43 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,800 podcasting. They went from zero to podcasting in, uh, in half an hour. And that was just phenomenal. 44 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,440 It's a good show to listen to. Something that was very interesting though is that before, um, we actually 45 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,440 started the show and people, you know, we're just kind of like talking on the conference call. 46 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,080 Everybody was ranking on, you know, all the elections in two weeks and fuck, we got to get 47 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:46,320 rid of Bush and I'm, you know, the country's going to be hosed if he gets reelected. And no one spoke 48 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:52,240 with the same passion during the actual taping, even though the elections did come up. So I just 49 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,360 wanted to want to say that. That was always, it always amazes me how the minute the microphone 50 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,360 turns on, then all of a sudden it's like everyone takes a stupid pill and we're not 51 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:07,120 real anymore. So trying to keep the pod cast really y'all. So yesterday the reason why I got home, 52 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,440 oh wait a minute, first of all, wait a minute, I'm making a big mistake here. It's early in the 53 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:21,280 morning. We have to do the brush your teeth song. You brush your teeth. Come on, you can sing 54 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:28,960 a lot. You brush your teeth. When you wake up in the morning, it's a quarter to two and you want to 55 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,480 find something to do. You brush your teeth. I do a podcast, a real podcast. You brush your teeth. 56 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,360 When you wake up in the morning, it's a quarter to three and you mine starts humming 57 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,560 through the lead. You brush your teeth. You brush your teeth. 58 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:52,160 All right, thank this up, guys. When you wake up in the morning, it's a quarter to four and you think 59 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:58,000 you hear, run, knock on your door. You brush your teeth. You brush your teeth. 60 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,600 When you wake up in the morning, it's a quarter to five and you just can't wait to come all 61 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:16,400 out of your brush your teeth. You brush your teeth. You brush your teeth. You brush your teeth. 62 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Good morning. Now we're all awake. Yesterday, I had to open the eye trends, lifestyle and 63 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:36,400 technology fair in the Utrecht, which is about the central part of the Netherlands. Not just 64 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,360 for any old reason. I'm waiting to go around opening up fairs, but grandmaster view. Our 65 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,560 flat screen company was displaying our wares there, so that's always a great way to get extra 66 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,120 publicity and attention. Grandmasterview.com, by the way, and also available in the states now at 67 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:58,800 florida.grandmasterview.com. And so I was hanging around for a little while, and it will 68 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,720 a little while. It takes a couple hours before you get home. That's why I was late. But I got an email 69 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:10,800 about my appearance there, and this is from Yutun for Croast. I'm just going to read this to you 70 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,200 because there's an excellent email that I saw when I got up this morning. Hey, dude, that was 71 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,680 pretty weird. I was listening to your daily source code on my iPod. When I turned into the parking lot 72 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,200 at the Yarnburgs, next thing, you know, I see you live, grabbing a very red drink from a walking 73 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:31,440 human video billboard waiter at iTrends. That's right. They had waiters with flat screens on their 74 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,120 head and shit. Since you were sitting down at a little table in the company of some serious 75 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:40,080 looking people in suits, I figured that it might not be the best moment for me to yank out my 76 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:45,760 iPod and slap you on the back and yell, didn't source code rules, dude. You'd probably say, 77 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:51,600 hey, what do you want from me? Visualizing that did make a click on my head. He says, I decided 78 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:58,160 to send you a song in appreciation instead. So first of all, the guys in the suits were like 79 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,200 company sales guys, and one of them was my partner and grandma's review. And we were actually 80 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,240 just talking about a podcasting and iPod, or because I know where we were sitting when you 81 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,320 probably saw me. So please, anytime, you know, feel free. If you're driving in the highway, 82 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,000 I want to roll down the window and honk at me, or if you're anywhere. And just the thing that you 83 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,680 were seeing that listening to the source code while I was there, you really should have 84 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:25,360 a relationship come out to me that would be an cool. So he decided to send me a song instead. 85 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,880 Oh, I was sick. I just want to make sure I've got everything all cute up here. 86 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,240 I was listening to your take on indie music just then. I wanted to send you a song that was 87 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:42,640 that was recorded by my band. It's 100% RIA proof and royalty free. I do grant you and anyone else 88 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,200 that wants the podcast that writes to do so, download it, share it, any other way necessary, 89 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,200 all writes and clearance taken care of. However, it's 5.5 meg, so I didn't want to 90 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,640 nail it to you. That's appreciated. It says, why this one? Well, check out the lyrics. You 91 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:00,240 probably see why click in his head. I hope you'd like it if not just to take this at token 92 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,160 to my appreciation if you don't want to play it for it. Play it on the show. Actually, you're doing 93 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:10,720 I really liked it. And I'm going to play it right now. This is, I guess your band's name is Paragon. 94 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:17,440 That's what I'm getting from the, from the MP3 file, from the ID3 tags. It's titled, 95 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,840 dig in your fame. This is coming to you from Holland. I'm the source code. Very cool. 96 00:09:28,750 --> 00:13:00,000 [ Music ] 97 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,000 Yeah 98 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Haragad, digging in your fame on the source code for Saturday, October 23rd 2004 99 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 And you can download that from 100 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Erunds sites, it's for crost.com 101 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,000 That's verk-r-o-o-o-s-t 102 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 You can download that from Erunds.com 103 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Paragon, dig in your fame 104 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Excellent song 105 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Really like that very much 106 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Thank you for sending that beautiful, little present 107 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Let's see 108 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,000 I wanted to mention that I played mojoins 109 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Thursday on the source code 110 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,000 And whoops, little mistake there 111 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:49,000 I said you could find there their website at mojoins.com 112 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,000 That turns out to be Mother Jones 113 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,760 certainly be playing more by Mod Jones in weeks to come because the whole album is just so good. 114 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,480 They have a couple albums out, I only have one, and this guy's really just rocked. 115 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,320 More indie music on the way, of course, in today's source code. 116 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,000 Also, I've got something, let's see, am I on schedule here, am I doing this right? 117 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,160 Yeah, because I have a whole list of stuff. 118 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,240 Actually, I think we're probably gonna run a little bit longer. 119 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,400 If you're taking a walk-dave liner, take the long way. 120 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,120 It's gonna be an hour today. 121 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:22,400 I heard Dave's morning coffee notes, and I was talking about making the show 40 minutes 122 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,400 long. 123 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,600 And just as he was walking in his door, I said, well, it's 40 minutes time to end the show, 124 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,400 and that really tripped him out. 125 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Tony Khan, talked about him before Tony is a radio legend and public radio and MPR, 126 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,440 and I've been keeping very close tabs with him. 127 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,960 He's working very hard on getting all kinds of MPR people interested in podcasting, 128 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,440 which is really what I want to see, because there are a lot of MPR shows that I love. 129 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,840 I can't receive here at all. 130 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,920 The time, if you think it's tough to listen to an MPR show when it's a broadcast in the 131 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,800 States, try and add six or nine hours to that, you know, and try and coordinate your life 132 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,800 around that. 133 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,200 It's very difficult. 134 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,880 But Tony, of course, has his podcast morning stories from WGBH in Boston. 135 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,520 And there was a great one that came in into my iPod the other day, and I want to play 136 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,520 the whole thing for you. 137 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,640 These are stories that are actually, these are podcasts by themselves. 138 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Tony does, as he helps people with their stories, if it's their own story or gives 139 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,000 them a story. 140 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,560 But it's normal people off the street, basically, who then record these stories and tell 141 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,800 them in their own voice, and he does some great production around it. 142 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:33,840 And this next one was so funny, and you can imagine, anyone can imagine this scenario happening. 143 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,400 It's called In the Buff, and it's a great one. 144 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,400 I'm going to turn it over now to Tony Khan. 145 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,400 This is Tony Khan, I'm the producer, the director of Morning Stories on WGBH in Boston. 146 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:49,480 And today's morning story comes from a very funny lady named Erica Forensic who talks 147 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:56,720 about a very unfunny situation, maybe, being on the rebound in the buff. 148 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:02,640 I'm not sure what I was doing when I agreed to go to a nude beach with my new bow. 149 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,480 For one thing, I'm shy stepping into a shower naked, much less on to pearly sands and 150 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,720 in front of crowds. 151 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,000 For another, Dan was my yoga teacher, besides I just got divorced. 152 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Dan couldn't wait to whip his clothes off and sprint into the sea with a giant waping. 153 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,360 What's this guy? 154 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,440 I thought wrapped up tight in my one piece under my summer wrap, under my wide brim straw 155 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:34,040 hat, under the beach umbrella, under the nude-seeking sun. 156 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,720 After a few body surfs, Dan galloped back to the blanket and shook his head like a dog. 157 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,600 He flopped down on his back, the bronze gifed to the heavens. 158 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,720 I sighed, entire naked families, phallicked in the sand, a couple in their 80s centered 159 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:54,400 by wearing only matching straw hats, led over the dunes by a naked docksand. 160 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:59,480 There was even a naked dauzer, dauzing for naked treasures, and just so the left of us 161 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:04,440 are rather a game of naked volleyball. 162 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,920 Okay, I thought let's just do this. 163 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,800 I got to my feet, took one strap down, then the other. 164 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,560 Step out of my suit and body slammed, face down on the blanket. 165 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,000 Dan laughed and said, now that wasn't so bad, was it? 166 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,400 An older couple crested a dune, then made their way toward our blanket. 167 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,400 There was something about the woman, a sort of side-to-side gate. 168 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,360 Dan, I guess. 169 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:36,720 I know these people. 170 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,520 So why don't you say hello to them? 171 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,840 Because I'm naked, okay? 172 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,440 Because they're naked. 173 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,520 Because they're my ex-in-laws. 174 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,520 10 feet. 175 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,520 5. 176 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,520 5. 177 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,520 Erica? 178 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,520 Vivian Arthur! 179 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,520 I wanted to die. 180 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,520 Hi! 181 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:08,520 I wave stiffly from my face down on the blanket position. 182 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,520 They turn to Dan, who will be handed a vigorous sun-cell mutation, jump to his feet, 183 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,520 and shook their hands. 184 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,520 And this is your new yoga teacher, I choked. 185 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Wonderful. 186 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,520 We were looking for a few more bodies for the volleyball game. 187 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,520 Erica? 188 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Are you? 189 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,520 No. 190 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,520 I'm pretty wiped. 191 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,520 I'm scared or relaxed. 192 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,520 But Dan was already on his feet, brushing the sand off him. 193 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,520 Self. 194 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:38,520 I waited a moment, then slowly reached back from my suit and pulled it on. 195 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,520 I wondered why I had said yes to this in the first place. 196 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,520 I didn't even like the beach. 197 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,520 And when I thought about it, yoga kind of bored me too. 198 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Only cobra, so to Dan. 199 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:57,520 I mean, please, bumping and spiking in the buff. 200 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:03,520 How do you keep your eye on the ball? 201 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,520 Morning stories. 202 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:10,520 Come see you from WGBH, FM, Radio Boston, and we podcast you with a new morning story. 203 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,520 Every Friday. 204 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,520 Great morning story. 205 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,520 Only imagine that really taking place. 206 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,520 And of course, these stories are all true. 207 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Excuse me. 208 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Patricia just walked in a couple minutes ago during that morning story report. 209 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,520 And she said the Christine is really feeling bad. 210 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,520 And it pisses me off, man. 211 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,520 You can't get any good drugs here. 212 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Like Nyquill. 213 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,520 You know, all that wonderful, sneaky, coffee, achy. 214 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,520 So you can rest medicine. 215 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,520 It's not available in Europe. 216 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,520 So I'm glad I'm going to blogger Khan. 217 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Pick up a whole suitcase full of good over-the-counter drugs from the States. 218 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,520 A new podcast I wanted to turn you on today was, well, it's very appropriate. 219 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,520 It's about baseball. 220 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,520 October 21 in baseball history. 221 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Today in baseball history is brought to you by sports history. 222 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,520 Bringing you the most interesting informative and intriguing facts. 223 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,520 Yeah, the world. 224 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,520 A little bit of commercial. 225 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,520 Love that sport. 226 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,520 In 1845, New York beat Brooklyn 244. 227 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,520 Okay. 228 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,520 I'm not going to bore you with all the baseball history, but that's a great podcast. 229 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,520 So, of course, I had this prepped from two days ago. 230 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,520 It's today in baseball history from the 21st. 231 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,520 And it looks like baseball history may be rewritten again. 232 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,520 Who knows what the red socks are going to, how about those red socks, huh? 233 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:41,520 And last night when I came home, and I actually put this up on my podcast feed, 234 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,520 because I thought it was so funny. 235 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,520 And I got some mail about this. 236 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,520 People thinking that, you know, hey, man, you can't play this on the air, 237 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,520 because this girl's really in love with you. 238 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,520 You're like, you're like messing up her head. 239 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,520 What am I talking about? 240 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,520 Well, of course, Dawn from Dawn and Drew. 241 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Dear Adam Curry, this is Dawn from the Dawn and Drew Show. 242 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,520 And I wanted to talk to you about something, 243 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,520 but I don't know how to bring it up, so I'm just going to blur it out. 244 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,520 Okay, here we go. 245 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:18,520 I noticed that you didn't do anything for me for sweet this day. 246 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,520 And I thought we had something. 247 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,520 I thought we had something special. 248 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,520 And it hurt really bad. 249 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,520 But then I started thinking, Adam Curry wouldn't do that to you, Dawn. 250 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,520 Adam Curry's cool, right? 251 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,520 He wouldn't break your heart. 252 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,520 And so I came to the realization that you were just waiting 253 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,520 until we were together at Blocker Carme. 254 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,520 And I know you're going to take me out to dinner, 255 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,520 and we're going to have a fantastic time, 256 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,520 and maybe we'll even ride Mopeds. 257 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,520 We're going to ride Mopeds, Dawn. 258 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,520 I can't wait. 259 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,520 I'm sure it's going to be great. 260 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,520 What are you doing over there with my computer? 261 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,520 What, Drew? 262 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,520 What are you doing? 263 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,520 Nothing. 264 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Are you sending a note to Adam Curry? 265 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,520 No. 266 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,520 Yes, yes I am. 267 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,520 I knew it. 268 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,520 You can't keep us up the heart. 269 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,520 We're so busted. 270 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,520 No, Adam. 271 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,520 Goodbye. 272 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,520 You guys are too much. 273 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,520 That's great. 274 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,520 I can't wait to meet you guys in person at Blocker Carme. 275 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,520 We're going to have a really good time. 276 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,520 Okay. 277 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,520 Some cool technology stuff, because, of course, on the source code, 278 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,520 we try and have users and developers party together. 279 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,520 Different ways of podcasting, different machines to do it on, 280 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,520 always interested in what people are putting together. 281 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,520 I don't know if you know what a trio is, 282 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,520 but it's a cell phone. 283 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Apparently, you can record a podcast on that just perfectly. 284 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,520 Good morning. 285 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,520 This is Russell Hollandman. 286 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,520 Thank you for tuning in to my trio podcast. 287 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,520 For those of y'all who haven't heard, 288 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,520 this is like day three of an experiment of mine. 289 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,520 I'm trying to see if I can produce a decent podcast 290 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:22,520 using as much of my trio 600 cell phone as possible. 291 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,520 As of today, the entire process is being handled on the cell phone, 292 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,520 including the fading in and fading out of music, as I talk, 293 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,520 with the exception of the MP3 encoding. 294 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,520 I still haven't figured out how to do that on my cell phone yet. 295 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,520 But everything else is done. 296 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,520 Once the broadcast is complete, the way file is sent from my phone 297 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,520 to a server. 298 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,520 Upon receiving that, the server initiates a script, 299 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,520 which then encodes the file just this morning. 300 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,520 I figured out how to add ID tags to that file. 301 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,520 I then generate an RSS file on my trio, 302 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,520 and I upload that directly to the server, 303 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,520 and so far that's where we are. 304 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Yesterday's broadcast, podcast, I guess I should say. 305 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,520 So how cool is that if you think about it, 306 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,520 that you can do all this from a handheld device. 307 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,520 Yeah, you've got a script running on the server 308 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,520 to actually get the podcasting stuff in place, 309 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,520 but that should be a service quite frankly. 310 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,520 Now what I'm interested to do is, can we do the reverse? 311 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Can we make the handhelds? 312 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Can we actually make them do all the iPod or functionality 313 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,520 without the computer? 314 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,520 If we have a handheld wireless device that works with Wi-Fi, 315 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,520 well I know the pocket PC already has an iPod or for it. 316 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,520 How far can we take this? 317 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,520 How much hacking can we do on our MP3 devices 318 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,520 to actually uncouple the computer part that's sitting in the middle? 319 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,520 I'm getting pretty excited about what a lot of people are doing. 320 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,520 Another MPR show that I want, or another public radio show 321 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,520 that I want to play just a little bit for you, 322 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,520 is future tense. 323 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,520 John Gordon produces and hosts that. 324 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,520 And I came across an interesting little gadget 325 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,520 talking about on future tense, which is something that, 326 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,520 well, something that could be quite handy if you find TVs 327 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,520 and monitors in your life and living space annoying. 328 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,520 This is future tense from American public media. 329 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,520 I'm John Gordon. 330 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,520 A fast-selling new keychain gadget lets people turn off 331 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,520 most any TV. 332 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,520 It's inventor sees TV begun as a sort of gorilla solution 333 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,520 to the problem of attention demanding TVs in bars, restaurants, 334 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,520 airports and other public places. 335 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,520 The tiny remote control works by sending a burst of infrared 336 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,520 off-coads until it hits on the right one. 337 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,520 It's basically a universal remote with just one function. 338 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,520 TV begun sells for $15 and is available only at the TV 339 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,520 begun website. 340 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,520 The website has been down intermittently after being swamped by traffic. 341 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,520 Inventor, Mitch Altman. 342 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,520 There's so many times when I'm in a restaurant or at my laundromat 343 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,520 and a TV is on and no one's really watching it. 344 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,520 And I certainly don't want it on. 345 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,520 I always thought it would be great if I could turn it off. 346 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,520 When I first thought of the idea of sitting at a table at a restaurant 347 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,520 with some friends and we were there to hang out with each other 348 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,520 and yet a television was on in the corner. 349 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,520 And the town wasn't even on just the flashing images 350 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,520 kept drawing our attention away from each other. 351 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,520 And none of us wanted that. 352 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,520 We wanted to be with each other but we couldn't really help ourselves. 353 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,520 It's just so compelling that way. 354 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,520 And we were thinking wouldn't it be great if we could just turn that off? 355 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,520 You need a remote because a lot of the television's can't turn off 356 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,520 or unreachable or something like up in a bar or something like that. 357 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Yeah, they're usually out of reach and the remote control is who knows where. 358 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,520 And the thing with TV begun, it's just a remote control 359 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,520 so you can turn TV back on again. 360 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,520 It doesn't hurt anything. 361 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,520 And one of the things that I like about it is it can bring on dialogue 362 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,520 about whether a TV should be on or not, 363 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,520 whether people actually want it or not. 364 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,520 And one podcast in all's life. 365 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,520 Adam Curry. 366 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,520 And to me Kasky from slash.review.com. 367 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,520 One of the thank you for the opportunity to place a brief announcement 368 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,520 to hear on Open Podcast to let people know about slash.review. 369 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,520 Basically it's ten minutes summary of highlights from recent contributions 370 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,520 to slash. 371 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,520 Each day I try and round out the program featuring a song from a creative 372 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,520 Commons license artist to highlight a track that I find interesting 373 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,520 hope that other people do as well. 374 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,520 I'm also looking for external comments and participation on the audio program. 375 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,520 I've got phone in line. 376 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,520 732 357 3682. 377 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,520 And also can take network based zip calls from the 378 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,520 Assip phone network 74766733006. 379 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,520 Once again, I appreciate your contribution here. 380 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,520 And I hope that you have a chance to take a look at slash.review.com. 381 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,520 So that's from Open Podcast.org. 382 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,520 You should subscribe to that because it's got all kinds of great 383 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,520 promos and commercials for people's podcasts coming through. 384 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,520 Multiple files per day. 385 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,520 Quick check of the email. 386 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,520 Let me see how to another. 387 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,520 You can hear the email rustling in my paper, right? 388 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,520 From Jock Gill. 389 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,520 He says, hey, I'm coming to you from northeast kingdom of Vermont. 390 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,520 Enjoying your podcast. 391 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Everything they imply. 392 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,520 Here's a safe prediction. 393 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,520 He says, by 2006, every modern politician will have a campaign. 394 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,520 Podcast. 395 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,520 He says, a bit of history snuck by you. 396 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,520 October 20th was the 10th anniversary of the launch of the White House website. 397 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520 I was one of the project leaders on this, which is why I make the 398 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,520 prediction above with confidence. 399 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,520 He says, really appreciate your support of John Kerry. 400 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,520 I've been urging Dick Bell his webmaster to start a carry podcast. 401 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,520 Maybe if you mentioned it dot dot dot dot. 402 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,520 Well, you know, now I think about it. 403 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,520 What a great opportunity for John Kerry. 404 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,520 I mean, why wait for your, you know, your equal airtime or your radio address or 405 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,520 you know, whatever you want to do and isn't this just great for all the candidates or 406 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,520 any, well, for John Kerry screw the candidates. 407 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,520 We only two weeks away. 408 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,520 For John Kerry, who has no time, as he says, and is busy schedule to, you know, 409 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,520 to actually blog anything. 410 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,520 Well, this is perfect, you know, give us your stump speech for all I care. 411 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,520 Just say something one minute every single day and have somebody throw it up on a podcast. 412 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,520 And imagine, you know, the thought of the day from the president or the inspirational 413 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,520 message of the day, I would rock Michelle and her group walked along Capitol Hill. 414 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,520 I found a lot of people actually in the end of rush just walking first glance. 415 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,520 It just looked like a pile of leaves and maybe some garbage. 416 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,520 But there are people sleeping there. 417 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,520 Though she counted were curious at times. 418 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,520 Some even grateful. 419 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,520 A couple of people were like, wow, well, I'm homeless. 420 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,520 You can count me. 421 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,520 After the volunteers covered their areas, they returned to Operation Nightwatch on 422 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,520 and handed in their numbers and their reactions. 423 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,520 They were normally walking on the street. 424 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,520 Makes you appreciate a warm bed. 425 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,520 Yeah, it's an eye opening. 426 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,520 The numbers have been tallyed and Rick Reynolds says there's 12% more people living on the streets in King County this year. 427 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,520 Another trend? 428 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:28,520 The Seattle core count area is somewhat down while the outlying neighborhoods and suburban areas are up somewhat. 429 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,520 When you add in the number of people in shelters, you get a homeless population of around 8,000. 430 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:38,520 Soaring news for Doug, a counter this year, with a very personal connection to last year's effort. 431 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,520 Yeah, it was one of the people that was out on the streets. 432 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,520 He remembers being approached. 433 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,520 It felt good because he knew somebody out there cared. 434 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Greg was also homeless. 435 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,520 He's concerned not everyone was counted this year because many homeless people don't want to be found. 436 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,520 As a homeless person, if you draw attention, it's only on one eight attention. 437 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,520 But he's glad to have helped and knows that the numbers will help collect more money to help more people. 438 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,520 I was sleeping on underpass. 439 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,520 Now I'm willing to help somebody else because that's what it's all about. 440 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,520 Brian Calford, coma, 1000 news. 441 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,520 Now the reason why I played this bit from coma 1000 news, which of course comes through in their podcast. 442 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:16,520 And you can find all this stuff at ipodder.org, of course, is I was amazed, you know, Seattle. 443 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,520 I don't know how many people live in Seattle, but I bet there's not as many people that live in Seattle's live in all of the Netherlands. 444 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,520 17 million people live in the Netherlands. 445 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:30,520 I think the total count for homeless people in all of the lowlands is no more than 800. 446 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:37,520 Because it just doesn't exist in the Netherlands. 447 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,520 Of course, it's all, it's because of the way the social benefits are set up. 448 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,520 And there's a lot of pro and cons to be said about that. 449 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:52,520 But listen to these people, I'm like, you know, this is not the, this is not what I would expect to hear from someone who's homeless. 450 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,520 You know, there's a lot of stories behind this. 451 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:03,520 And it's quite frankly when I see what's going on with the government and what Bush is doing in Iraq and the whole, just the fact that they were there. 452 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:09,520 And it breaks my heart to hear that what's going on at home, you know, 8,000 people homeless in Seattle alone. 453 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,520 This is, this is major, man. 454 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,520 We've got a lot of shit we've got to take care of here back at home. 455 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,520 It's mainly music for you now that I found on, I think, was GarageBand.com. 456 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,520 Stars, the big fight. 457 00:32:23,750 --> 00:36:53,750 [ Music ] 458 00:36:54,520 --> 00:37:01,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 459 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:07,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 460 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 461 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:19,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 462 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:26,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 463 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:32,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 464 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:38,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 465 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 466 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:51,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 467 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 468 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 469 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 470 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 471 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 472 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 473 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 474 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:31,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 475 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 476 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:43,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 477 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 478 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 479 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 480 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,520 It doesn't wanna go, it just won't let you go 481 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,520 I might just be somebody that you can relate to 482 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,520 Or at least somebody that you find interesting 483 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,520 And if you do, God help you 484 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,520 Because I don't find myself the slightest bit interesting 485 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,520 Give yourself a little more credit there, Jimmy 486 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,520 He has a cool podcast, check out JimmyJet.com 487 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,520 Or find his podcast feed in the iPod or directory 488 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,520 Also got a couple audio comments that I want to share with you 489 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,520 This is from Phil who you probably know from 490 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,520 Engaget.com and the infamous Engaget.com podcast 491 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,520 And he's moving this stuff along 492 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,520 He's already known to the next step 493 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,520 Hey Adam, it's Phil Throne from the Engaget.com podcast 494 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,520 Wanted to say thank you for getting this out in a big way 495 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,520 You've been doing some monumental work and I really appreciate 496 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,520 By the way, it's clear that if you want your comment 497 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,520 Played on the source code, that's the way to start 498 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,520 off isn't it? 499 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,520 We have all this technology and all this ways to connect up 500 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,520 We may as well use it for the greater good 501 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,520 I did want to say two things that are probably of some interest 502 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,520 To the folks out there. 503 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,520 First, about last year 504 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,520 I started an experiment with video feeds 505 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,520 And using RSS 2.0 closures to get video around 506 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,520 The bad news was there wasn't any portable video players 507 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,520 At least there wasn't any ones that are released 508 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,520 But now there is. 509 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,520 So there are some of these video players 510 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,520 Running around like the creative zen that you can get video on 511 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,520 And I had written an article about getting podcasts on these 512 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,520 But you can also get video on them 513 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,520 So why don't we take a leadership role 514 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,520 And start talking about that 515 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,520 And I think podcasting personal 516 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,520 Option digital broadcasting should encompass everything 517 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,520 So maybe we can start out in feeds that have video 518 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,520 So one, I'm curious if anyone has any video feeds out there 519 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,520 And two, if they don't, how we can start doing this 520 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,520 I can probably start throwing together some videos that I have 521 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,520 Around and maybe we can start trying it out 522 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,520 Because you know, ultimately iPods will have video 523 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,520 We all know eventually everything is going to have video 524 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,520 So why don't we start doing this now 525 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,520 At least having the ability and the people who are building the software 526 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,520 They can at least start thinking about this now 527 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,520 Well I tell you if you look at the iPod or developer 528 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,520 There are already people thinking of this of course 529 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,520 You should also check out Steve Garfield's website 530 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,520 He's he's been doing video 531 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,520 Video blogging and attaching 532 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,520 I think he's been attaching 533 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,520 Quick time movies to his RSS feed 534 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,520 I'm not quite sure 535 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,520 So a couple of comments on that first thought 536 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,520 Yeah, I mean it would be beautiful 537 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,520 To get to that point 538 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,520 There are a couple of things that aren't quite in place 539 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,520 The way they are with podcasting 540 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,520 One is we don't have a set format that everyone has 541 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,520 And everyone agrees on 542 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,520 Whereas we have MP3 for audio 543 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,520 Do we want to use quick time to want to use 544 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,520 Empag doing use divics 545 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,520 Do we want to use AVI 546 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,520 You know there's all these different choices 547 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520 And I'm not sure that the handheld videos it players out there 548 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,520 Support you know that any of them support all of 549 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,520 You know all of these protocols all these different formats 550 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,520 And also 551 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,520 I was talking to Paul Bootan 552 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,520 Is that his hyper Bootan 553 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,520 Yeah, he's a he's a reporter 554 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,520 And he's a I think he's working on a piece for slate right now 555 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,520 And he says you know you too is supposed to be a part of this big 556 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,520 Apple new color iPod release 557 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,520 It's just you know why is you too interested in that the only thing I come up with is 558 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,520 Well, you know if you got a color iPod 559 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,520 Well shoot you might as well 560 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,520 You know let it play quick time videos 561 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,520 And that would kind of make sense to have a color screen to do that with 562 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,520 So we may find that some of the stuff is going to fall into our lap again 563 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,520 I don't think there's enough devices out there 564 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,520 And really the biggest problem which is which I'm already running into 565 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:57,520 Hard disk space problems and and bandwidth issues although they're not problems 566 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:03,520 With with these MP3 files now any video file is going to be at least ten if not 567 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,520 A hundred times bigger in file size than what we're dealing with now 568 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,520 And although it's technically perfectly capable 569 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,520 I think that you know just imagine all the shit we're going to run into 570 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,520 I mean you know right now 571 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,520 If you are new to iPod and you download it you know you probably get 572 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:25,520 The the most recent the three most recent shows from each feed that you subscribe to 573 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,520 And eventually you'll receive everything that's in the feed because it you know the iPod 574 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,520 It goes around and starts picking up older feeds as it 575 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,520 With each with each cycle that it runs through 576 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:41,520 So imagine all of some instead of having a hundred megabytes that you downloaded a gigabyte 577 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,520 Or two gigabyte so I think we just need a little more 578 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,520 Disstorage particularly and still some more bandwidth before we can really go full on digital 579 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,520 But I do support you know I support 580 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,520 Trying this out and seeing what the limits are now of course 581 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,520 And it's completely possible the entire infrastructure is exactly the same 582 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,520 It's all in place 583 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,520 In fact, I put up my was it the daily source code commercial video that caught you 584 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,520 I made for me 585 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,520 And a lot of people receive that since I put it into the iPod 586 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,520 Feed people received it on their iPod 587 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,520 And you know it's kind of funky the way that iTunes handles that 588 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,520 Because you get like the cover art is the is the is the poster frame from the 589 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,520 Quick time movie and you can hear the audio but you can see the video of course 590 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,520 So I think it's all going to kind of flow and fall into place 591 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,520 But still I'm a little concerned about all of the storage and the bandwidth issues 592 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:44,520 And oh wow what are we 44 minutes Dave you're back from your walk time time for a comment from digital bill 593 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,520 Hey Adam it's digital bill from the Wizards of Technology podcast 594 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,520 Of course like everybody else 595 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,520 So I want to go ahead and tell you what a great job job you guys are doing 596 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,520 And putting this all together and the speed that it's evolving 597 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,520 And I'm just so excited to be involved in it 598 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:10,520 And even just the tiniest little way of putting our weekly wizard to repod cast out there 599 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:17,520 Here's an interesting thing that has been coming across my desk that I've been thinking about the last few days 600 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:24,520 Since I started subscribing to podcasts which arguably I might be coming late to the party 601 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,520 And I've only got maybe half a dozen subscriptions 602 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:33,520 I'm looking here in my I made a meta playlist and iTunes which is very cool 603 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:40,520 You know how I potter and I potter X create individual playlists for each subscription 604 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:46,520 So I created an automatic playlist that combines all those playlists together 605 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:55,520 It's just called podcast and each option that you add to the automatic playlist is another playlist 606 00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:02,520 So basically I've got all my podcasts aggregated into one monster list if I want to look at it that way 607 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:08,520 So it's kind of interesting that you know in about a week or so I've got 608 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,520 107 different audio files here. I'm sure you've got lots more 609 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:21,520 It says 2 days 17 hours 17 minutes and 9 seconds about 1.94 gigabytes of audio 610 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:26,520 I'm getting inundated here in content 611 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:32,520 I mean I can't listen to all this. I'm looking at my playlist and there's Will Wheaton Part 1 612 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,520 There's Steve Wozniak that I want to listen to. There's the Dave winers stuff 613 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,520 You know all the IT conversations 614 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:48,520 You know I used to audio hijack Leo show off KFI every week and listen to that 615 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,520 And I don't have time. I mean barely I can listen to daily source code 616 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,520 And I'm a week behind but I mean I can just about keep up with that 617 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,520 And I'm not making a headway on Dave's slasher. I'm not listening to 618 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,520 You know any of the other good stuff done and drew you know anything that you're 619 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,520 Stumping on so 620 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:13,520 They're just aren't enough hours in the day because if I try to listen to it at work 621 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,520 Obviously I'm coding I'm doing stuff like that during the day 622 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,520 I can't think about listening to that 623 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,520 You know what I listen to during the day just occupies my ears 624 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,520 So I don't have to think about listening so I don't want to miss what I'm listening to 625 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,520 And you know when I come home I've got my Tvo full of programs that it's recorded for the day 626 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:40,520 And you know and yet I potter X is bringing me yet more wonderful content 627 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:49,520 How do you cope with the inundation of content without walking around with your iPod plugged into your head all day 628 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,520 Anyway, that's my my fuck for the day and I appreciate you listening 629 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,520 And I appreciate what you guys are doing 630 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,520 And it's just like I said it's just also exciting 631 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,520 So keep up the great work and I'll keep listening 632 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,520 Thanks man appreciate it. Hey Bill no problem. Thank you for sitting in the comment 633 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:14,520 Well, I think everyone is having this problem now and and it's what a problem to have 634 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,520 You know Bruce Springsteen makes a song called 57 channels nothing on and here 635 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,520 We are we're like there's too much. I don't know what I'm going to listen to it all 636 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,520 I mean that's a lugs look at the quality of your problem 637 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,520 But it is a real problem. I have it too. You know, I'm sitting here 638 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,520 I've actually unsubscribe from a number of feeds 639 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:41,520 Because either the shows were just way too long or I ultimately found myself making decisions on you know what to listen to 640 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,520 And those would fall by the way side now again audio dot weblogs dot com is still a great place 641 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,520 To go and and you know find when there's new podcast out 642 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,520 So and you could just click on the on the MP3 link there and you can listen to it in real time 643 00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,520 And what a lot of people are doing is they're saying okay, and also if you mouse over the the actual podcast names 644 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:07,520 Up pops a little balloon that shows you all the information about that was posted along with the files 645 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,520 You can see what's in that particular show 646 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:16,520 I think we probably shouldn't get too hung up on making daily shows. That's part of it 647 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,520 So you don't and Drew I think they're doing it pretty well 648 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,520 They they have their shows down now to a hole on let me just check my my iTunes 649 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:32,520 I can tell you how long was their their most recent show was 20 see that was that was that's an old one 650 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,520 Let me see 651 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:41,520 Drew so the one from the 18th yeah, I mean they're they're getting down to about 18 652 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,520 Some times 14 sometimes 20 minutes 653 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:50,520 So shorter shows is is definitely going to be something that we're all going to have to start thinking about 654 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,520 And here I am right on us 655 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,520 They were the really long show running almost an hour 656 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,520 Also I think that we'll see 657 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,520 Excuse me we'll see more shows 658 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,520 That are aggregates and telling you about other podcasts that's what I'm trying to do 659 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,520 I'm trying to point you to stuff and we'll see more short form features 660 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,520 But also you know if you're doing a podcast don't get hung up on on doing it every single day 661 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,520 You know this is unlike traditional radio as long as people are subscribed to your show 662 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,520 It's going to pop up and they're going to be just as happy when they get it now. I know that a lot of people saying oh, you know 663 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,520 Oh, I all sudden the source code wasn't there and I'm freaked out and what am I going to do? I can't take my walk 664 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,520 I don't know what to do with myself 665 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:38,520 This will all flesh out and it's it's I think that this is just Darwinistic 666 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,520 It's it we're all going to figure out the way to do these things 667 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,520 And it's probably just that we have to get stuff you know shorter 668 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:50,520 I too find myself in the in a backlog on IT conversation stuff 669 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:55,520 I yeah, luckily I listened to the wheel wheat and stuff live. I caught most of that live and didn't really 670 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,520 See a need to go and listen to the you know the parts that I missed 671 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:03,520 But Steve wasniac you know you just got to you got to find your space and hey 672 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,520 Maybe we should start finding time for ourselves 673 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:12,520 Maybe that's a really good thing, you know, maybe you should plan to tune yourself out for half an hour a day or an hour a day 674 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,520 Well, you know what next time you're sitting in front of that fucking television set 675 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:23,520 Maybe you could be doing something different maybe you could be listening to a podcast which probably could give you just as much 676 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:29,520 Entertainment value and maybe even as much news value or possibly even more 677 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:40,520 Final thing that I want to say on today's podcast because I'm still receiving so many beautiful emails and audio comments from people about my mom 678 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:48,520 So appreciated so many personal stories that you've been sharing and I've been you know and talking to a lot of people and so much good advice and 679 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,520 It's just the really is quite a lot of love in the in the pod universe 680 00:51:53,520 --> 00:52:03,520 Mom had her PT scan and besides the fact that her ATM cards wouldn't work when she was holding on to them because she's still radio active 681 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,520 Apparently she's clean. There's no other 682 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:15,520 No other spread and it looks like she will be able to be operated on and I gotta tell you we're all pretty jazzed about that 683 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,520 It's still of course still a very heavy road that has to be traveled 684 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,520 But the news so far is good and again, thank you all very much for your thoughts and prayers 685 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,520 And that'll wind it up for your Saturday source code 686 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:37,520 Thanks again to everybody who contributed in the show for the RIAA free music 687 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,520 Please if you've got a band if you've got a song if you're doing stuff 688 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,520 Let me know about it send me a link to it because I'm more than happy to play it 689 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,520 If I dig it of course, and I'd be happy to share with the source code listeners 690 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:57,520 As always, you can leave your comments at my weblog like I'll create a calm or through email 691 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:03,520 Adamaccurry.com and you can always find the latest source code of the archives at datingsourcecode.com 692 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:08,520 And the podcast feed datingsourcecode.com slash rss.xml 693 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:13,520 Dave and I are probably doing a trade secrets Sunday should be going to look out for that 694 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,520 Because it's a lot of cool stuff. We talk about what's coming up at bloggercon 695 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:23,520 And you have yourself a great weekend. Take care. I'll see you Monday on the source code 696 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,520 I'll see you tomorrow. I'll see you tomorrow.