1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,500 I'm casting all's life at a curry. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Just power all the glory of your life. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 How do everybody? Good? 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Afternoon, good evening, or almost good morning is just a little bit before midnight here on Wednesday, October 27th, 2004, 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,000 coming to you from the bunker in Sin City, home of the coffee shop, 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 and stood down the nettle that's the source curve. 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Power all the glory of your life. 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Oh boy, one of those days, 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,000 didn't get to my email until about 10-15 years ago. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:43,000 And it's full of all kinds of particular due to an interview that I did today, 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 on WNYC. 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Without a doubt, New York's premiere, 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 and I think only public witness to it, 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,000 not be only one in the Tri-State area, mind you. 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 But yeah, it was really, really good. 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 So I'm going to play some of that. 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,000 We're going to review the launch of Apple's new iPods. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,000 And of course there is some audio comments and some RIA for you. 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Power all the glory of your life. 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,000 And I think I talked about this the other day that WNYC 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:22,000 released a CD with what I call pod tunes or a music that is free to be used and copied as you wish. 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Some well-known names on there, a Beastie Boys, a David Bern by now, of course, 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 this thing is circulating around the net. 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:35,000 And if you're hey, if WNYC is going to quit so much push behind these bands, 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 they've chosen and they've gone through the trouble of doing this, 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 then we might as well participate in everywhere we can. 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,000 So on the podcast today, a couple of songs that come off of that CD, 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,000 this is one big holiday. 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 My morning on the source code. 30 00:01:51,250 --> 00:06:48,750 [ Music ] 31 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 One big holiday, my morning 32 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,000 From the wire to open source music CD 33 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 It has a name 34 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Oh, I was second 35 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 That CD had a name, didn't it? 36 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 I couldn't say that 37 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Hold on, let me see 38 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 I'll look at iTunes right now 39 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,000 The wire CD volume one, alright 40 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 I could have come up with one myself 41 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 This is the source code 42 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 It's now officially Thursday 43 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 But we're still going to say this is Wednesday 44 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,000 October 27, 2004 45 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,000 It's been on a bit of an emotional rollercoaster the past few days 46 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Get really excited about what's happening with everything 47 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 All things podcasting 48 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 And then my mom's still still going through some tests 49 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,000 I think I might have some reasonably good news to report by tomorrow 50 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 I'm getting up at six and we're going to the hospital 51 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 We have a 930 appointment 52 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 One final test that has to be done 53 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Just to make sure that we can indeed go the surgery route 54 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Which would be fabulous 55 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,000 And that is relative to what fabulous really is of course 56 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,000 So, so it's been kind of up and down 57 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 But today 58 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Now, I think this was set up through DocSurles 59 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 He got an email 60 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,000 From someone I believe it was a producer from WNYC 61 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Public Radio in New York 62 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Asking him to come on the show 63 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 On the Brian Lera Show 64 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Which is a morning radio show in New York 65 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Which apparently a lot of people listen to 66 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,000 And talk about podcasting 67 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 And very graciously 68 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Doc said, well, you should talk to Dave and Adam 69 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 And I got to be honest that I didn't really follow all the email threads 70 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,000 The email is fucking exploding out of control 71 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,000 I can't wait to get on a 14 hour plane ride to San Francisco 72 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Just to sort out my email 73 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 What I'm basically doing now is I'm trying to get all the directory stuff 74 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 For new entries to the directory and get those in 75 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 That has priority you know besides 76 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Whatever shit comes in from tax attorneys and lawyers 77 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 That just I'm forced to look at 78 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 With fucking office attachments 79 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Excel sheets and word documents I hate him 80 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:05,000 So, this was really amazing to be on the show 81 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,000 I think I was on for almost like 20 minutes 82 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,000 And there were playing bits from podcast 83 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 From the source code, the Don and Drew show 84 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 And just to give an impression 85 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,000 And really went into detail and they really done their work 86 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,000 And this producer had indeed done really done his job 87 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 It was funny because 88 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 And this had never happened before 89 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,000 I've been lots of radio interviews in the states 90 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,000 All over the world 91 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,000 And for the first time I was given like the legal disclaimer on the phone 92 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 And I have to actually ask questions 93 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Do you agree to have your voice with broadcast on radio and AM and whatever 94 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Do you agree that this can be archived on the internet 95 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 For webcast and on CDs for distribution 96 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Yeah, so you agree it's like signing your waiver 97 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,000 And it was great and he 98 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Brian there opened up the phones for calls 99 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 This is a New York-based radio station 100 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,000 And it was as if we had set it up 101 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 But we hadn't 102 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 And in came to me a very familiar voice 103 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,000 This is 93.9 and AMA 20 WNYC 104 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 We're speaking with Adam Curry 105 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,000 We developed a software that allows so-called podcasting 106 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Which is broadcasting or just moving audio around 107 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,000 via MP3 on the web or to your iPod 108 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,000 And here is Brian in Durham, North Carolina 109 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,000 Who says he's a podcast 110 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Brian, you want to go to your NYC? 111 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Hi, how are you? 112 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Okay. 113 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,000 For my podcast is audioactivism.org 114 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Hey Adam, I really appreciate all you've been doing 115 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 It's really a great outlet 116 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 To a lot of creative people 117 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 All right. 118 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 And what do you do? 119 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Go ahead and plug away 120 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Sure, my podcast 121 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,000 So I was going to comment on that 122 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 I was like I was so amazed 123 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Here's Brian from audioactivism.org 124 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 I just been listening to his podcast 125 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 The night before my way back 126 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 From Amsterdam to Belgium 127 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 And it was like that's when he said 128 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Hey, it's really great 129 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,000 And for a split second 130 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 For a split second 131 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 And you can actually I'm going to read 132 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,000 I'm going to wind this 133 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,000 I'm going to rewind this 134 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 I'm going to say what I was thinking of saying 135 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,000 At the moment, Brian came in 136 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Okay, so you'll get the full effect 137 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 I didn't want to do it because it's like public radio 138 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 It was a really big deal to do this in New York 139 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 But I'm going to kind of give you that effect 140 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Hey, it's just fine 141 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Okay, we go to this part 142 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 All right, and what do you do? 143 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 All right, okay 144 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,000 All right, and what do you do? 145 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,000 All right, and what? 146 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 147 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Basically, you're saying this is so great 148 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Thank you Adam for this 149 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 I really appreciate all you've been doing 150 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,000 It's really a good, great outlet 151 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,000 To a lot of creative people 152 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Boy, boy, boy, boy, boy 153 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 All right, and what do you do? 154 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Got it? 155 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Sure, my podcast is basically about 156 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,000 called three or else 157 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,000 And a uniform resource locator 158 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Basically, like web address 159 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 That has something to do with activism online 160 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 It's another thing that blogs do really well 161 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,000 It's a type of social software that allows people to connect 162 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 And obviously during this sub-political season 163 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 A lot of people have been using it for different types of activism 164 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 But it's not just about president 165 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 It takes other things as well 166 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 But you can see the show so much political 167 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 And that sense, and it allows me to reach 168 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,000 You know, a huge audience, a group of people 169 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 We're hosted by a Biblio.org 170 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Which is real famous for hosting all kinds of things 171 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Like free software, that sort of stuff 172 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 But that's what I've been doing 173 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,000 And what's amazing is I'm listening to your show 174 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 As a streaming in V3 with iTunes 175 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 On my PC at work 176 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 And I heard about this show 177 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 On Docs, Girls' Blog 178 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,000 So the viral nature of how we hear about 179 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,000 You know, what's going on, what items up to 180 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 And what different people are doing 181 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Is, you know, a really fantastic 182 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,000 And I'm talking about John Stewart there 183 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Yeah, that's great. 184 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Brian, thanks a lot for calling 185 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,000 And that's, 186 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 I think it's been good rather than competition 187 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 So then the interview goes on 188 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,000 I put a link up to a recording of the stream 189 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 That Rick from WGBH 190 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Put up for us and he said I could point to it 191 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,000 So the audio skips here and there in a couple of spots 192 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 But you'll get a general idea 193 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 And I think this is another win for the good guys 194 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,000 This was great 195 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 And I also, since it was so much time 196 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 You know, it was so nice to talk for such 197 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 For such a long, it's like three segments 198 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,000 And 20, 20 minutes total 199 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 I got to talk about, you know, 200 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Users and developers being together 201 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Also, a lot of Dave Winner came out of my mouth 202 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,000 During that interview 203 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,000 Particularly, you'll hear a bit about 204 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,000 The blogger's fear getting closer to 205 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,000 You know, what CNN is showing on television 206 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,000 So I just wanted to give credit there 207 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Because I was listening to the interview again 208 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,000 I was like, wow, you know, I sometimes 209 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 To open my mouth and Dave comes out 210 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,000 You know, that could, that could be dangerous 211 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Sometimes, got to watch that 212 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Okay, let me see 213 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Yeah, I got a lot of stuff to talk about 214 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Still, back to the music for a second 215 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 In my previous show 216 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 I solicited blatantly 217 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 For folks to come up with a show 218 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,000 And if you're willing to listen through some stuff 219 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 And cue some MP3s up 220 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Maybe you can produce something 221 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 And I've already seen it in my mail 222 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 I've gotten quite a few responses 223 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 I can't respond to all of them 224 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 And I'm, you know, basically going to sit through everything 225 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,000 It was kind of cool to receive an audio comment 226 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Though from Andy Affleck 227 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Adam, hi, this is Andy Affleck 228 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Coming to you from the Washington DC area 229 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,000 In the US of A 230 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,000 And I'm, I'm responding to your call 231 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 For help, looking for a producer 232 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 From the latest podcast 233 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Almost forgot all about it 234 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Because the story from your wife 235 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000 After it was so hysterical 236 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,000 I'm sitting listening to this on 237 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 The bus ride home from work 238 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Laughing my ass off 239 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 And people in the bus are looking at me like 240 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 I am some sort of strange person 241 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 You can see the looks and the faces like 242 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Must be one of them carry people 243 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Anyway, which I am 244 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,000 It must show 245 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,000 He's not like us, he's one of them carry people 246 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 So anyway, I'm intrigued 247 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,000 By the notion of 248 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Uniting a producer 249 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Meaning someone sort of 250 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Gather up 251 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Scoured in that for some music 252 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 And he also might be useful for the show 253 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 This is an intriguing, intriguing proposition 254 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,000 For me because I have been wanting to do a podcast 255 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Since I first discovered this 256 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Sometime in early September 257 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,000 I think it was 258 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,000 I've been listening to shows 259 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Since just before early September 260 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,000 And 261 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,000 You know, and trying to do it 262 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,000 My own show 263 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,000 I just can't imagine pulling it again 264 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 I just can't, with a four year old kid 265 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Finding a place to record 266 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Alone 267 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Is almost impossible 268 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Right now I've got my wife corraling 269 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Another part of the house so I can do this 270 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,000 But I 271 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 The idea of helping out though 272 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000 In that capacity 273 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Is sort of the side of it that really interests me 274 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 I think I've got interesting things to say 275 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000 But you know, I could put that on hold 276 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Or I could still do my own thing 277 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 But to be able to sort of help you out 278 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,000 In some of the things you're looking at 279 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Finding music 280 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Trying to come up with some new ideas 281 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Hack, I used to be a frontier developer 282 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Many years ago 283 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Met Dave once too even 284 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Daddy remembers me 285 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,000 But in your rate 286 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,000 You'd be frontier developer 287 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Many years ago 288 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,000 Did a lot of work up at Dartmouth College building 289 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Systems for them 290 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 So even on the 10th bus side 291 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,000 I even might be able to help out 292 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,000 I haven't done anything in front here 293 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,000 Since 294 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Four point something or other 295 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,000 But 296 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 I doubt the language itself has changed all that much 297 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Anyway, I am 298 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Basically saying 299 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,000 If you're interested 300 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,000 I'm interested 301 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Maybe we should 302 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Talk and see what we can 303 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Figure out 304 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 If you got a million of the responses 305 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,000 And people who've said a lot more 306 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,000 That's fine too 307 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Figure out give it a shot 308 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,000 And that's it 309 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Signing off 310 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,000 From Northern Virginia 311 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Bye 312 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Isn't that amazing? 313 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,000 I mean 314 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 The kind of people that are out there 315 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000 You know, interested in music 316 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Frontier developer 317 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,000 This is great 318 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,000 This is 319 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,000 I really really dig in this 320 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,000 And I got 321 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Also received just like 322 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Andy mentioned 323 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 I got a lot of comments about 324 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Patricia's 325 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,000 David Bowie's story 326 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,000 Which lasted a lot longer than I expected 327 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,000 I thoroughly enjoyed it 328 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,000 We talked about that 329 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,000 A couple of times 330 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Yesterday 331 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,000 I had a lot of fun interviewing 332 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,000 You know 333 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,000 I even got more out of 334 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,000 The interview 335 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000 The David Bowie's story 336 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Then I heard 337 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000 The first four times 338 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,000 I squeezed it out 339 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,000 I was like 340 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Tell me about David Bowie 341 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Come on 342 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Tell me that story 343 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 And 344 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,000 And 345 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,000 I even got some requests 346 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000 People saying 347 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Hey 348 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Can't you give 349 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Patricia like your own 350 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Hipy story 351 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Channel or something like that 352 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 She does have a couple more 353 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,000 And she says that she enjoyed 354 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,000 herself 355 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 And that she's looking forward to 356 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Another episode 357 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,000 We got to go 358 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Careflon 359 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,000 I can't stretch it too much 360 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000 You know otherwise 361 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,000 She'll get out 362 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,000 You know she'll be onto us 363 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 They'll really dig in this too much 364 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,000 So 365 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,000 And you know 366 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Don't you'll make me a slave 367 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Even more so than I am already 368 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,000 So 369 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 We'll get more hippy stories 370 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,000 I promise you that 371 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Hit in the email here for a second 372 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Some came in from Toaster 373 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Toaster says 374 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000 He's been enjoying 375 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Daily source code 376 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 And kind of made a mix 377 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 You know a lot of these bush mixes 378 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,000 That I've played 379 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Well, he kind of made a mix 380 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,000 From the source code 381 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Along those along that vein 382 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,000 And he mentioned something 383 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,000 That we definitely have to talk about 384 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,000 I do want to 385 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Just say that we lost a great 386 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,000 He's a broadcaster 387 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 But he totally was a podcaster 388 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,000 John Peel 389 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,000 British DJ 390 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Who I used 391 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 They used to air him over in the Netherlands 392 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000 I mean he has to show what's 393 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Indicated across country lines 394 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,000 I mean this guy was big in Europe 395 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 He used to die very young 396 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 65 to years old 397 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Of a heart attack 398 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,000 He was in Lima, Peru 399 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 I don't know what he was doing there 400 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 And Toaster was also obviously a big fan 401 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Said you know 402 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Can you play the mighty wall 403 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Or the Smiths 404 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Unfortunately you know 405 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Can't do that 406 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Because we're trying to stay away 407 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 From many problems with the RIAA 408 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Which sucks you know 409 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Because I know what he's talking about 410 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,000 With these songs 411 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000 And those are memories 412 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 You know it's important stuff 413 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 So unfortunately I can't do that 414 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 But I do want to play your mix 415 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Because it's really really good 416 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Back in La Blom Blom 417 00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:58,000 [ Music ] 418 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 Hold me right caught up 419 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000 La Blom 420 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 No one's buying anything 421 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Two weeks ago on the highway 422 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Hard in the side holster 423 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,000 La Blom 424 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,000 La Blom 425 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Be perfect right here 426 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Hold me right caught up 427 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 La Blom 428 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000 La Blom 429 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,000 La Blom 430 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 La Blom 431 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000 She doesn't want my wand 432 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,000 La Blom 433 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000 La Blom 434 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,000 I hate it 435 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 No one's buying anything 436 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000 They must have had their ears on 437 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000 They're blind 438 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,000 They're blind 439 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,000 They're blind 440 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000 They're blind 441 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,000 They're blind 442 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Look at what people are doing 443 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 What links for women to go 444 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,000 I hope you hear us 445 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Back in La Blom 446 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000 La Blom 447 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000 The next side holster 448 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000 La Blom 449 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 No one's buying anything 450 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 Now shut me down 451 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Look what's going on 452 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,000 La Blom 453 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Flame 454 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,020 Bring back much of it 455 00:21:02,020 --> 00:21:02,920 Desperate 456 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Black Ferrari's Good Thoughts 457 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 And prayers 458 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000 See you tomorrow 459 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Ohhh 460 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,000 Eat all the heat off 461 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Great Energy Boost 462 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:24,000 It's a full-surdest planet. 463 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,000 It's a full-surdest planet. 464 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:34,000 It's a full-surdest planet. 465 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,000 It's a full-surdest planet. 466 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 A lot of energy. 467 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:55,000 It's a full-surdest planet. 468 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,000 And it's a full-surdest planet. 469 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,760 love that. And I tell you that at the end of the day, a buddy of mine came over, friend of 470 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,480 mine came over. We had some dinner. Well, that means we're like, we're not got some pizza 471 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,560 came back and hung out here. And we're just talking about, you know, life and stuff and 472 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:20,280 getting older and smoke the couple joints. And then listen to this mix. It's very, very 473 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:27,840 cool. Ray, thank you very much. Looking forward to coming over your way. And who knows? I'm 474 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:34,160 sorry, toaster. Ray is from London. That's who I was going to talk about. Oh, man. See, 475 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:39,520 smoke too much. All right. Let's get it straight here. This was a, yeah, this is about the 476 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,200 director. He said, this is about OPML. We've been talking about this and Ray, who's 477 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:50,680 going to welcome me from London and look forward to becoming. Has some some interesting 478 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:56,520 comments and suggestions about XML, RSS, and particularly OPML and our iPodder.org 479 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,640 directory. Hey, Adam. This is Ray Boison here, recording from London and the UK. Looking 480 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,480 forward to having you here. Oh, how do I know that? It's going to be an interesting 481 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,920 experience for you. I have a suggestion for the podcast directly though. I'm the editor 482 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,520 of the technology directly. And I've noticed a lot of people are having some problems with 483 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:21,320 the XML OPML, ML files that they send me as links. A large percentage of them are not valid 484 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,160 in XML terms. I spend most of my iPodder time dedicated to helping the users getting 485 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:32,080 the XML files to validate properly. My suggestion would be a link on Apple.org that allows 486 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:37,480 the podcast to validate his or her's feed file. I'm not sure how to support it, but maybe 487 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:42,720 we could get Dave Warren involved to help out. Well, that's all from cold London. No, enjoy 488 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,840 the rest of your day. Oh, man, cold London. Thanks. That makes me feel real good. We're 489 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,480 moving in less than it was like three weeks now. So I am living in the midst of boxes 490 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:58,200 of my friends. I'm pretty sure that there are some validators that I don't want to, you 491 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,360 know, point to them without knowing if that's okay. So I know that Dave's going to hear 492 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:08,440 this and he's going to probably point me to a tutorial and a validator. I know there's 493 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,880 an RSS validator. There's a couple of them. And there's probably an OPML validator. There 494 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:20,440 should be. So that's that is good because I agree. I also spend a lot of my time helping out 495 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,360 folks who want to maintain nodes within a directory. And if you go to iPod.org and if you're 496 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:30,440 new to the podcast, this is a distributed directory. So no one owns it. No one's the boss of me. 497 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,520 Anyone can contribute, maintain a node. You can add sub-nodes to that. And it's completely 498 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,200 distributed across the web. And if you think that you want to start your top node, then you can 499 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,480 do that. What's cool about this now is that it's also flowing into the new iPod or software. 500 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:54,840 iPod or X. I'm using currently a beta version which is importing the entire directory. It's 501 00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:00,520 actually following all the links and crawling it and parsing it and bringing it information. 502 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,840 And they are doing some really cool stuff. Stuff we've done in the weblog world, which is going 503 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:14,040 to give us more information about what's happening in the podcast. God, I want to say it space. 504 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:23,400 Okay, in the podcast world, let's leave it at that. And also I got a screenshot from Andrew 505 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:30,520 from the iPod or Lemon Edition team. And they're also incorporating the directory into their 506 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:37,320 next release. So exciting stuff coming up on all things iPod. Check out iPod.org if you don't 507 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,600 already, if you're not already using the software or just for the latest updates podcast. And of course 508 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:49,800 for the podcast directory. And now something about MP3 voice mail to email. Adam, thank you for 509 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:55,400 dare I say inventing podcasting. Oh boy, I love the daily source code. And boy, almost cut up on all 510 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,920 your podcast. Great stuff, very informative, very entertaining. A few podcasts back you mentioned, 511 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:07,800 it is IR for receiving MP3s in your email. I don't quite have that set up, but I have been using 512 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:14,840 J2.com's free fax voice mail email service. Basically, you get a US phone number that accepts voice 513 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,240 emails and faxes and then emails into you. The voice emails are limited to five minutes and the 514 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,880 quality is low, but it isn't too bad for a quick update or an observation. I use the voice mail 515 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,560 box to send myself quick reminders when I'm driving. The voice mail attachments come as GSM files. 516 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,920 And on my Mac, they play right in the mail program using QuickTime. They also play on Windows 517 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:41,320 with QuickTime. I think the service could be a pretty cool way to call in short podcast, like 518 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,320 maybe from a trade show. You can have the voice mail as forward to Danny Box, so I can imagine 519 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:51,720 a mailbox script that takes the attachments, converts them to MP3 and then posted to your blog. 520 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,960 I don't have the skills to make this happen, but perhaps with your vast daily source code 521 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,120 influence, you could encourage one or two of your listeners to look for a solution. 522 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:06,440 Another way you might benefit from these MP3 voice emails or GSM voice emails would be for 523 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,720 listener calling people going to call into the number, leave a voice mail and you can play 524 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,840 it back to your show. Since it's free pretty much anyone who's podcasting can probably afford 525 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:23,320 to now have a call in number for their podcast show. I'm really liking that idea, and I think I 526 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,360 had a J2 account, but when it was still called J fax, I don't know, and I actually had a local 527 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:32,520 Amsterdam number, and something happened in one away. I remember the problem is that they only 528 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,560 would send wave files. They wouldn't make MP3s, and they got pretty big, and I should definitely 529 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:43,560 look into that. I wish I had God, I can't really say this. I wish I had the Windows version of Skype, 530 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,960 or at least the Windows functionality, because you can get this cool voice mail program to add on, 531 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,080 and apparently it records voice mail when people Skype you. That would be really cool, you know, 532 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:59,640 to kind of route around the whole telephone company dance there, but also a call number would be 533 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,440 cool, but, you know, kind of think of it. Is that what I really need, you know, more things to 534 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:10,200 check, more voice mail boxes, more email boxes, I'm really drowning here folks. Let me see, 535 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:18,280 looking at the YEP external recorder, we are 20, what are we 28 minutes into this? I don't want 536 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:23,320 to make it longer than 40 minutes. I do like that as a length for a show. So what I was going 537 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,800 to do, I was going to review two parts of the Apple iPod presentation. I also want to play 538 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:34,280 another song from the wire to the, okay, I'm going to drop the second part of the Apple iPod 539 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,960 presentation, which is just you too. And I'll just, I'll sum up you two's appearance, presenting 540 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:46,280 the new YouTube iPod with what my daughter Christina said, who was 14, and she's a punk rocker, 541 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:53,400 and she said, you know, did you two ever not like suck? What do you mean? They're pretentious 542 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,800 and they are, and they're cell outs and go look at it on Apple's website, you can look at 543 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:05,320 the presentation, you know, and it's just sickening, man. See these guys, like pretend like this, 544 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,280 oh, you know, Steve Jobs is saving the music industry. This is the future of, you know, 545 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,160 iTunes music store is it, but meanwhile they're saying, you know, as long as we get paid, literally 546 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,240 the edge is saying, hey, as long as we get, you know, I love Napster, and I love it, as long as we get paid, 547 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:26,520 it just wasn't all, it was all the wrong things to say. It really was. Anyway, I was very disappointed 548 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,640 by the presentation of the new iPod. I know I'm a fan, you know, I got an iPod. I'm a Mac fan, 549 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,440 I'm an Apple fan. I love Steve Jobs's presentations. I love the way he does him. He's much thinner 550 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:43,160 by the way, of course, he's been sick, he was operated on for cancer, and it was, it wasn't taken 551 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,920 in back, I was like, whoa, man, he really got a lot thinner, and he looked, he just looked a little 552 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,520 more frail, you know, which is totally understandable, of course, but if you haven't seen him, 553 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:58,600 just trying to give you an image. And so he goes through blah, blah, blah, on some socks, you know, 554 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:05,080 we have socks for your iPod for 25 bucks for three socks, fuck that, colored socks, I'm not kidding. 555 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,960 And then, you know, the big moment, it's time to look at what's next. 556 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,560 It was a nice stage. It was a nice stage. With iPod. 557 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:26,920 All right, so that was the socks, the joke about socks. We get asked a lot. What's, what's podcasting? 558 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,240 Next. Oh, what's next? You know, what's next? For the iPod. You know, 559 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:38,600 at this moment, I'm going, oh man, I hope he says there's some people out there on the internet, 560 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:46,680 and I hear their podcast then. No such luck. Everybody loves music, and iPod will always be 561 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:54,280 a music device. Whoa, this is where I started to get worried. It will always be a music device, okay. 562 00:30:54,280 --> 00:31:00,280 It's about listening to music, but you see what I'm saying? We've got this great device. It's got 563 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:06,440 a screen. It's got this amazing user interface with the click wheel. What else can we do with it? 564 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,720 What else can we add to the music? And our competitors are saying, 565 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:18,520 oh, shit. That's Dave. It's answer to the phone. You're on the source code. Good afternoon. 566 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:26,200 I'm curious. Hey, Dave. You know what? Let me see in the next episode. No, I'm, I'm, you're on the source 567 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,240 code right now. You have breaking news. You read the Times article? 568 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:39,320 Better with everything. It is a K-A-S article. Yeah, a podcasting is defined and accepted. It doesn't 569 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:46,840 even appear as its name. What are those? This is our previous review. Well, hold on Dave. Hold on 570 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,760 home. You're breaking up. I want to be able to hear you. Come again on that last bit? 571 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,240 It, they used the word podcasting like it was in the English language. Really? 572 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:05,800 Yes. It's not a little piece. It's a, it's a welcome to the wonderful world in it. I piece of 573 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:14,280 for the New York Times. It's, you know, they've been very sort of unwilling to accept. I mean, 574 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:21,560 yes. They really defined the camera. They play up Don and Drew. Hold on Dave. I'm going to call 575 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,320 you back because I want to hear this and it's just shitty. I know if I call you back a little bit of 576 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,680 two seconds. God damn. So this is Dave calling in with the New York Times article that we've all been 577 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:39,000 waiting for. Let's see if we get a little better connection. Yeah, I'm much better. Okay. Okay. So 578 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:53,400 sorry. Yeah. Yeah. It has a picture of, um, um, uh, the net rock skies. Oh, really? Yeah. And it has some 579 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:59,960 really great quotes for you. Um, it's just all around. We'll be able to ask these. And 580 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:06,680 the nice thing about it is sort of like what, what is really not even said is that they just use 581 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:14,600 the word podcast. Let's throw a word. Excellent. And, you know, the head of mine is, um, I mean, 582 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,960 we, you know, it's to have all of this stuff feel, you forget how, I'll get, if they, I'll get it. 583 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:26,600 But they say, you do food for our, uh, honest, on it, I subscription. So, you know, it's like, 584 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:35,080 I'm, uh, it's food for your iPod. Absolutely. Right, but which, you know, who's feeling your 585 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:42,440 iPod? Yeah, you know, uh, you know, so it's, it's a very, very, very adorable way, um, uh, I think we'll 586 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,000 look back on this moment. Yeah, you know, it's, you know, it's a very, really important just to 587 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,560 be different from the way that they handle. Well, I think it was, you know, now that I'm on the 588 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,600 head, it's pretty, it's pretty, it's best. Uh, most of the time that we'd say there's no business 589 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:02,680 model on the, or it's just like, to be radiates the fan. Right. Yeah, exactly. It's the hype of the day. 590 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,520 This is not like that at all. This is not, I got it right. And I think that, uh, you, you're, 591 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:16,120 like, you, to close the piece. Your quote is that, um, so we, you say, we, it is a nice, 592 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,840 you can receive, I guess, with, uh, be it to any, and that's the thing here's to administer. 593 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,320 Well, I wish I could have understood that. I hope, I hope no one who reads that article 594 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:31,960 listens to this podcast. The, uh, because, you know, you, yeah, they don't see, as he took the 595 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:39,640 off his body. Oh, that's too bad. They didn't do any fact checking there at the New York Times. 596 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,560 Actually, actually, this was written by, uh, Sirus, uh, was his name Dave Fabiar? 597 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,560 Caramel, are you? Caramel, are you? Caramel, are you? And he, you know, 598 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:57,320 I have to say that he emailed me about five or six times after, uh, we spoke on the, we actually 599 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:04,680 spoke on a Skype call, and he checked a whole bunch of facts. Yeah. He, he was very, very thorough. 600 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,040 And I think he's a freelance writer. I think this might have been his first big piece for, 601 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:14,120 is it, I mean, how many words is it? It's not one piece. And, um, I don't know how many words it is, 602 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:21,320 maybe 1000 words. But, um, it's a great piece for podcast. And it's, uh, it's a, it's a piece 603 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:30,840 for RSS, by the way. I mean, it's, it might be the first article that's part of RSS for a long time. 604 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,280 They've been supporting it. But it was, it was really nice about it. It was an interview with, um, 605 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:41,000 big K, and the variety of tick conversations. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, this is that, you know, 606 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,680 the reason why we'd use three users. Yeah. And so it's not, you know, we don't focus to be on 607 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,400 the, you know, or the wiring in the plug and stuff like that. We want to do this with some of 608 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,760 what people are doing with it. And that's that. We just want users and developers to party together. 609 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,680 Yeah. But, you know, when it comes time to the story is users, the developers, 610 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,480 perfades in the background, the developer, he can get possible for the users to put on a 611 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,440 don't on true show, you know. Yeah. Absolutely. There's a, yeah. 612 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,600 Cool. Now, if you pointed to this from scripting news, 613 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:23,400 bottom of scripting news, and I'll still, but then I bought it. Or two excellent. Excellent. 614 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,840 Yeah. Yeah. This is good. This is a validation of the ice piece and, you know, thanks 615 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,840 here at your time. Really. Yeah. Well, thanks everybody, because everyone's been a part of this. 616 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:40,040 This has been great. Thanks everybody. Thanks, everyone. All right, Dave, I'll, I'll check 617 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:48,200 you later, man. I'm going to play some tunes. Thanks to the news, buddy. Hi. Sorry about the 618 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:54,200 quality there of Skype, but I don't know why I decided to sound like shit. It doesn't matter. 619 00:37:03,750 --> 00:40:24,200 [ Music ] 620 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:54,200 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The Kors foralec. Yeah. Mmm, yeah. Yeah. I don't know what influenced me. Yeah? ese yeah. Yeah. That's the hardest I can know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Happy in the show. They got one but they like you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Yeah, it's actually this Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do better for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah 621 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,960 This is a good day, and there's some other important things in there that I'm happy 622 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:58,960 to see. 623 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:05,720 I'm seeing recognition as Mr. Winner of the inventor of RSS. It is indeed nice that the 624 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:07,720 New York Times is writing that. 625 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:12,600 Okay, let's, you know, it's 40 minutes, a little bit longer into this, what are we now? 626 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,960 This is a very small display, 41 minutes. 627 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:23,800 Okay, can't do a show without something nutty from Pete, from Raster Web Audio. 628 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,000 He's so into this podcasting thing, and this is the latest episode of Crack Me Up. 629 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,280 Hope you don't mind if I play it in its entirety. 630 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,760 This is Draster Web Audio, 4024, and 26. 631 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,800 What we're going to do here is, you know, I'm preparing for the data to slash dot, add some sort 632 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,640 audio commentary thing where you can provide your comments in audio. 633 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,480 So I thought in preparation for that, I kind of do some of the more popular ones, the 634 00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,720 ones you're going to see anyway, so that way they'll be done, you won't need to do them. 635 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,720 So here we go. 636 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:06,200 Yeah, but does it run Linux? 637 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:12,240 Natalie Bartman, imagine a bail wolf cluster of those things. 638 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:17,480 Microsoft sucks, but it's not open source. 639 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,600 Did you even read the article? 640 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,600 This isn't new. 641 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,200 I've been doing this for 10 years. 642 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,000 Cowboy Neil, BSD sucks. 643 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,640 First post, BSD is better than Linux. 644 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,440 I have poured hot grits down my pants. 645 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,440 Thank you. 646 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,000 The site is already slashed at it. 647 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,120 Apple sucks. 648 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,120 That's it. 649 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,120 Thank you for tonight. 650 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,120 I love you. 651 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,120 That was awesome. 652 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,120 I was cracking up here in that for the third time now, fabulous. 653 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,120 All right, everybody. 654 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,120 And that's going to do it for the source code for today. 655 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,120 I will do the Apple stuff another time. 656 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,120 Yeah, I want to be positive. 657 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,680 Now that we've got some good, good energy flow in the New York Times article, I was going 658 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:10,360 to say in the closet about the iPod presentation, and I know Steve Jobs is going to read 659 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,360 New York Times. 660 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,360 He's going to read this and he's going to hear about our podcast and maybe he'll 661 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,880 start singing. 662 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,600 And again, maybe he will. 663 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,600 This yet is still pretty attractive. 664 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,080 But I think that brush metal look would have been more of a brush. 665 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,080 There. 666 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,080 Look at my good. 667 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,080 A metal tampon. 668 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,080 Two strings coming out. 669 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,040 One for head four, one for the line out jack. 670 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,760 And I'll be back tomorrow. 671 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,040 I'm going to hospital my mom. 672 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,040 So it'll probably be there. 673 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,680 I like post on the show, but I'll have some music out there. 674 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,760 And thank you very much for tuning in. 675 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,760 And take care. 676 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:53,280 Adam Curry, Adam Curry.com, live.kirt.com, and DailySourceco.com, see ya.