1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,120
Before we get started, let me remind you of the following results or events predicted on these things,

2
00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,000
namely, and materials from actual results.

3
00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,800
The fact is that good cause actual events results to differ from expectations include

4
00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,080
lack of growth, intense competition in our industry,

5
00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:19,840
integration failures, changes in government regulations,

6
00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,640
operational failures, or looking to England's representatives.

7
00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,720
All right, so with fully as of today, it should not be

8
00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,160
like common representatives in the death of any subsequent days.

9
00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,400
While we name the like something more than we say, it's a couple in the future.

10
00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,600
We need to not give it a leave in front of us, too.

11
00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,040
Augustine almost lies!

12
00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,240
Adam Curry!

13
00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,640
Our Lord of the Lord, give it to us.

14
00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,360
We have to do a good morning, good evening.

15
00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,920
Whenever it's applicable to your body, the world,

16
00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,880
everybody inside of Curry this is the daily source code.

17
00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:00,080
We're Tuesday November 2nd, 2004, coming to you from Curry Castle,

18
00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,360
Flamper's Belgium.

19
00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,760
We're going to be for the next two and a half weeks.

20
00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,280
Lord, give it to the movies in an imminent imminent.

21
00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,440
It's coming up.

22
00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,440
This time, we got much to go into about.

23
00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,440
We are almost out of here.

24
00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,680
Wow, what a completely fucked up day we had here in the Netherlands.

25
00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,800
Damn, this morning everyone was kind of ready for the elections.

26
00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,720
Every single TV show here in the Netherlands had called me and asked me to be

27
00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:38,400
a guest on their show, which I had at the time, because I just did not feel like

28
00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,000
sitting on any TV show from midnight till 6th.

29
00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:48,480
I would much rather kind of watch it at home in the comfort of my own home, you know.

30
00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,720
And so the morning started with a whole bunch of phone calls coming in around nine

31
00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:02,560
o'clock people saying that a very well-known columnist television host,

32
00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:09,360
interviewer, producer, director, and also filmmaker, Dale Fahol,

33
00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:14,640
which you would put out as algebraic set.

34
00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:21,840
Theo Van Gogh, and yes, he is a descendant of any infamous and famous Vincent Van Gogh.

35
00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:28,080
Was murdered today in Amsterdam at about a quarter to nine.

36
00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:37,840
He was done down by a semi-automatic fire and then hacked with a knife, stabbed.

37
00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:46,560
The details are a bit sketchy still, but some eyewitness reports say his throat was cut,

38
00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:49,840
and a note was left on his body.

39
00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,880
And this happened right on the street, not far from his home.

40
00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,960
And I think from what I could see on the TV news, it looked like the note was actually pinned to

41
00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:07,040
his body with this butcher knife. It was pretty shocking. Let me tell you about Theo Fahol.

42
00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,160
So you get a little bit of perspective on this. This is one of these people that you have in society,

43
00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:19,440
usually associated with media more than with politics, that really color everything.

44
00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:27,680
And make the world just a little bit more fun to live in because these people are always challenging

45
00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:33,520
the edges of everything. And Theo Van Gogh's particular challenge was always his freedom of speech.

46
00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:42,240
And he exercised his right continuously. And he was not very well loved, although people who knew him

47
00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:50,160
knew that he was a very, very, very sweet man, a very loving father.

48
00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:58,960
And in a way, he felt that this was his role and the number one issue that he'd been hammering on

49
00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:09,840
for the past few years was how the multicultural integration process in the Netherlands has failed.

50
00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:18,560
Country of 16 million people, little over 16 million people in an air and land mass smaller than Rhode Island.

51
00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:34,000
And there's, I believe, 3 million Muslims of which a number are radical extremists.

52
00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:43,200
And Theo was a guy who said, look, we've got a problem brewing here. The people know it.

53
00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:49,680
The government is not responding. Something has to be done about this. This is something also,

54
00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:54,720
by the way, that PIM4 times said, you'll remember the politician who was assassinated. And he wasn't assassinated

55
00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:05,360
by or under the guise of some religious geod. But that was also one of his big mantras.

56
00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:13,040
And this was not a racist issue. This is a pure issue of culture clash that is just not

57
00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:20,000
driving within this country. I mean, I wasn't here when there's whole integration process started,

58
00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:29,600
but they did not set it up right. I think if you have people who don't even speak the language

59
00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:36,000
after having been here for seven or eight years, it's hard for them to integrate. Anyway,

60
00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:43,520
I don't want to get down into the discussion of it all. But Theo also was very vocal.

61
00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,600
And besides just being vocal in television programs and he wrote columns and newspapers,

62
00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:55,760
he also made movies. And he recently did a movie with a Dutch minister, a senator minister.

63
00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:03,040
She's a member of parliament, a Dutch parliament, here she is, and she is a Muslim woman

64
00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:09,520
who is exercising her free speech rights to criticize her religion as long.

65
00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:17,120
And they did a movie together, controversial movie, a short film,

66
00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,600
which was basically about how women are treated

67
00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:39,040
by or in the extremist believers of Islam. Very complicated. But there were some

68
00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:50,640
very profound statements in that. And it just drove this particular guy who killed Theo,

69
00:06:51,600 --> 00:07:00,240
it drove him to that point. And from by all accounts, this was totally a revenge murder for what

70
00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:06,640
he had to say or his expressions in this movie. And as you can imagine in a country that speaks

71
00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:11,440
a language that doesn't work anywhere else except for parts of Belgium and South Africa.

72
00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:16,880
You know, we've got a very tight, closed community, which wants to be very open. And

73
00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:26,880
you know, there's a lot of shit going on right now. So I didn't know Theo very well.

74
00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:34,000
In fact, I met him, he invited me to be on the television show to be interviewed in a

75
00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:40,720
simultaneous interview with Lowe de Valle, who's the, he's like the head of all the labor unions.

76
00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,720
You know, they always try to get a contrast. So I guess I thought I would be the capitalist pig and he

77
00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,160
would be the labor union guy. And we would, it turned out we had a lot more in common than we had

78
00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:57,760
differences. But Theo was directing that show. And we chatted before and after the show.

79
00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,560
And we decided to meet up. And we actually didn't meet only about four days later, I looked it

80
00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:09,040
up on my weblog. And it was a great, you know, it came up to the place in Amsterdam, to the to the

81
00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:17,680
bunker. And we chatted about everything from politics to, well, I was interested in getting him.

82
00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:25,520
He has a website. Theo from Khach. But I wanted it really to be, you know, more like a weblog

83
00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,520
structure. I was trying to help him get an RSS feed up and running, because he just, you know,

84
00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:36,160
he needed more distribution. He had something to say. He was a blogger. And one thing we really

85
00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:43,760
different on a opinion on was that he, he's a big bush supporter and thought that bush should

86
00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,760
definitely be re-elected. And something that's interesting, because I'm looking to watching television

87
00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,160
hearing all kinds of testimonials and he worked with a lot of actors. And they all said that he would

88
00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,960
always say to them, you know, leave here, leave the Netherlands, go somewhere else. And it's funny

89
00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,120
because when we had that meeting at the house, he said, what are you doing here? Leave, go, go back

90
00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:08,560
to America. This place is going downhill. There's, you know, there's no saving it. Boy, you know,

91
00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:12,240
how stuff can can roll. Anyway, I have a feeling you're probably going to hear about this.

92
00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:18,160
It might, well, I'm sure, if it, yeah, it's probably going to get just totally buried because

93
00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,320
of election coverage. Otherwise, it's something that would have made, and made the news in the

94
00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,840
states. It made it around Europe because, you know, it's like show business. You know, it's a thing

95
00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:32,240
this TV guy, filmmaker, getting killed and what I consider to be a pure jihadist action.

96
00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:42,000
So, I was just kind of really weird. And, you know, everyone's calling each other and just,

97
00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:50,240
you know, feeling really, really funny about what happened. However, we've got a show to do here,

98
00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:56,240
ladies and gentlemen. So, let's play a little bit of music that is perhaps inappropriate for

99
00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,040
today's events.

100
00:10:03,750 --> 00:12:11,250
[ Music ]

101
00:12:21,250 --> 00:13:11,250
[ Music ]

102
00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,720
My joans from their album diyor

103
00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,200
Strongация

104
00:13:17,660 --> 00:13:23,600
And I've played mo jones before on on the show and now in the production notes as I'm using

105
00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:29,720
my still undeveloped and spiffy new pod production console, you'll be able to find a link

106
00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:36,960
to the Modions website which is Modions.nl and also some information about the album.

107
00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:44,080
I read something on scripting news today about Dave was talking about some blogging tools

108
00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:51,920
that support enclosures and help you put enclosures which basically is an RSS 2.0 feed

109
00:13:52,000 --> 00:14:00,000
which is what a podcast feed is all about and he suggested making a sub-directory on iPodor.org

110
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,400
in the iPodor directory which actually I think the site may be down or maybe I'm having some

111
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:11,120
DNS problems here. I'll have to check that later. I'm making a separate category which of course

112
00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:19,600
is great because we want to help people make podcasts and make that as easy as possible. And

113
00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:27,120
and you know thinking about that I can see that the aggregator developers so the guys who make

114
00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:32,800
well as we're kind of popular aggregators are out there that are on the desktop certainly

115
00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,520
we've got net news wire for the Mac. I hear a lot about news gator and some other

116
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:46,960
some other desktop-based aggregators. So they're getting into their waking up

117
00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:53,280
and the starting to see that there's a part we go in on here on the iPodor's developer list

118
00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:58,960
where users are and developers party together and that we're really achieving some awesome things

119
00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:07,120
and they want to be a part of that and I think that makes a lot of sense actually but

120
00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,440
all the notes I've gotten so far have been you know hey we we support enclosures and this is

121
00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:20,080
what we do and I you know basically I think to myself oh yeah you know that's that's what we were

122
00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:26,000
four or five years ago today it's about making the connection to well we're not really making the

123
00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:32,480
connection to your iPodor MP3 player but we're making that connection to to mainly iTunes or the

124
00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:41,120
Windows Media Center so there's a lot of intelligence a lot of knowledge on the iPodor developer list

125
00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:47,680
I believe here listening to the developers podcast that Garth Kidd puts together

126
00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,880
for the iPodor team iPodor lemons what I call it

127
00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:00,800
that they're modularizing everything and you know so it's real easy I think to hop on board here

128
00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,960
and you know we should put together some kind of checklist a day when I actually talked about this

129
00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:13,200
when you check list of you know what an iPodor actually has to do and you know hurry on

130
00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:18,880
up because especially you aggregator developers that support OPML there's some cool stuff happening

131
00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:25,200
with directories and flows and and somehow we're going to be able to patch this pod production

132
00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,080
console system into that and that's all going to be OPML I'm totally convinced I'm drinking the

133
00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:36,560
cool aid everybody so you know you're welcome on board and you know and let's see if we can

134
00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,280
that can help you out with with the final steps because it seems so trivial I know but it's really

135
00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:47,040
it goes beyond just to get it in closure onto the desktop it has to get into iTunes or into

136
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:54,880
some other media player that will sync up with the mobile devices and I got a call today from

137
00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:01,840
Jennifer Khan from wired magazine she's not she's a science writer actually writes about you know

138
00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:10,160
nanotechnology and and really science geeky stuff and she's doing an article on

139
00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:16,240
satellite radio which she she says she knows nothing about and I'm not quite sure because this

140
00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,240
wasn't really an interview about pod casting although of course you know me I convinced her that

141
00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:26,720
pod casting is the end all to be all but before we got to that you know she said you know

142
00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,880
so what is this what is this satellite radio you know these guys actually have a chance of

143
00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:37,360
making it will they be around and as we were talking you know and I was kind of making it up as I

144
00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:42,080
went along and she was a really it turned out to be a really good discussion partner particularly

145
00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,160
because she had no preconceived notions and and really you said she knew nothing about it so I was

146
00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:51,040
able to kind of dig around in my brain and use my radio experience and we cope with a couple of

147
00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:56,800
interesting angles and then as you know as relating it to pod casting all of a sudden and I don't

148
00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:03,840
know if if I already had this conversation with someone if it was it it was probably with Dave I'm

149
00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:11,520
not quite sure but it hit me you know because I was talking about how satellite radio basically they

150
00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,760
have a limited spectrum as well it's just limited by money but you know so they can do 30 channels

151
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:22,240
or whatever and they're basically these channels are all specialized and this is what what Jennifer said she

152
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,280
said you know I don't like half the stuff that's on there this you know it's like the new wave

153
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,520
country crap I think is what she said and I said you know I actually I personally do like a couple

154
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,880
of the new wave country crap things and I realized that we're we're kind of both we're approaching

155
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:42,000
the same problem from different directions where here's the satellite radio guys who are

156
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:49,840
beaming down a very expensive signal with almost you know with very limited content or at least

157
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,480
the content is packers in such a way that you almost want to tevoize it you know so that you can

158
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,520
and in fact there are applications out there now that you record satellite radio and then you know

159
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:05,920
basically sort that and put it into a playlist and and play it on your MP3 player or play it back

160
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,200
through the through the digital system in your car I said well wait a minute wouldn't be really

161
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,200
interesting think about what what the satellite radio guys could do because they're basically

162
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:20,480
they're just using bandwidth right um they have seven megabits or whatever and they split that

163
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:26,880
up so they can get an X number of channels but it's coming down to the your receiver digitally

164
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,040
and these receivers are cheap you know that's that's the beauty of of what they're trying to do

165
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,840
is you know you can buy to the supermarket and you know you plug almost literally plug it into your

166
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:41,040
existing car stereo or you can buy the top of the line expensive you know model whatever you want

167
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:48,880
but they're just sending down digital data now what if instead of having the M&M channel which

168
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:54,400
I'm sure is wonderful but you know I'm sure there's a channel that that they could give up what if

169
00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:04,160
they decided to broadcast the top podcasts you know or the top 10 podcasts it could actually be

170
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:10,000
more I think about a 24 hour period so let's say a couple of shows or an hour you know you're

171
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,840
probably looking at 30 30 shows a day on one channel right before you start to repeat

172
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:25,600
and you basically sell a receiver that will hook up to your iPod and your iPod will recognize

173
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,520
these shows coming down the pipe or shit maybe just records them all you know whatever we'll get

174
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,240
rid of it if we don't need it because you know it's cheap but think about if there's no difference

175
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:41,920
between getting your podcast over the internet or receiving it through a satellite radio receiver

176
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,960
but you know it could just be a seamless process that's running in the background anyway that so

177
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,200
I I told Jennifer that you know we shouldn't do this interview we should go start a company together

178
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:56,160
and she thought that was funny and then I invited a blogger con I don't know she's gonna come

179
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,400
moving along uh one a highlight a couple of new podcasts today and this is actually the third

180
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,600
installment of this podcast but it's been on my list to let you hear a little bit of it

181
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:14,240
it's from a guy named Scott Lockman he lives in Tokyo and well that's pretty apparent when you

182
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,200
listen to the show.

183
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:33,200
oh this is Scott Lockman and welcome to Tokyo calling for Sunday October 31st you might

184
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,480
call this the take to episode yes indeed I've been working for the last two hours trying to put

185
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:44,720
together an episode I had 15 minutes of good stuff recorded using the program audacity

186
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:52,000
and the thing crashed and I had not saved it beforehand so might talk this one up for podcasting

187
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:59,200
learning episode number one what a bummer it was some pretty good stuff and it is gone there

188
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,000
oh dude you're gonna live through so much more of that and last you listen to me and get yourself

189
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,000
an external recording device just for about a hundred you live in Tokyo they're probably about

190
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:14,800
50 bucks over there just a little flash based MP3 player and you know 256 megabytes is more than enough

191
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:20,160
you can connect it up via USB then every piece of sound you can produce with your computer

192
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,720
goes straight to the output if you can hear it you're recording it then you've got a total solution

193
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,520
it's a temp file somewhere and I looked at it and it's about 60 different

194
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:35,280
AU files all of them about one megabyte in there and it would take me more than another hour

195
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:40,560
why does our density do that together so it will just have to be an episode that lives in my

196
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:47,280
memory and one that is gone anyhow I still feel the need to get this out I want to do something

197
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,880
before I go to bed not make this time spent a total wash I've appreciated all of the

198
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:58,560
comments that have come in through the email this has been a great pleasure for me to put

199
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:04,080
Tokyo calling together okay so there you go Tokyo calling you can of course catch that through

200
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:10,720
the ipodder.org directory and I am putting in the links to it's actually it's a good idea

201
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:17,280
and it's at this time I console you need to have the subscribe here link uh wait until I automate

202
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:22,000
this thing it's going to be awesome it's going to be so easy to retrieve the source code if you

203
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,440
will to the daily source code yep sucking on on exhaust again oh and a member was telling

204
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,520
about the Gilmore gang yesterday how it totally ruined my weekend there was no Gilmore gang alone

205
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:38,720
okay Steve you win this is Doug K the host and producer of IT conversations and not just for the

206
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:44,400
sake of Steve Gilmore who has been bugging me to get an audio announcement out there explaining that

207
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,360
we didn't have a chance to do a Gilmore gang this past week but for all of the listeners who have

208
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:54,640
written and who have lost a lot of sleep wondering where the Gilmore gang was from Friday October 29th

209
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,280
the fact is that we had a cancellation we couldn't put the show together Steve did everything in his

210
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:04,320
power to get one together on Saturday a pre-election edition of the Gilmore gang but it just wasn't

211
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,120
meant to be so we'll do everything we can to get you on this coming Friday November 5th it will of

212
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:15,280
course be our first post-election edition of the Gilmore gang I'm Doug K the host and producer of IT

213
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,400
conversations and thanks for listening see that that's cool and actually I almost considered doing one

214
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,200
of those myself because it was so late this is actually right now it's oh shit it's three minutes

215
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,240
at two a.m. two minutes at two clock just switched I'm going to stay up a little bit and watch

216
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,320
some of the election coverage but I was considering doing the little hey guys I'm going to

217
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:40,240
watch the elections I'll catch in a moral podcast but then I said no no I've got to be there for the

218
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:48,000
gang and for people like Scott Brenner hey Adam Scott I was from Boulder Colorado I was calling to

219
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:55,040
turn you on to coverville.com this guy Brian's doing a podcast 20 minute half hour podcast

220
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,680
only doing cover songs pretty interesting was really interesting if you hadn't got an

221
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,920
ask cap license told him exactly what he's doing and they gave it to him I thought you might

222
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:11,040
cover that on your show and maybe you'd be interested in helping promote him so that ask cap feels

223
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,960
like oh this was smart for us to give him the license we're getting you know we're getting paid

224
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:21,600
and might help establish the license as you know reasonable that they're not going to six

225
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:27,600
months go hey that's that's not what we had in mind want to pull that license just thought

226
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:34,320
it's the Halloween edition of coverville and I promise you not once will I play the monster

227
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,320
mash coming up right now

228
00:25:38,750 --> 00:26:04,400
[ Music ]

229
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:14,240
happy Halloween and welcome to October 31st edition of coverville I'm Brian Abbott thank you for

230
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:22,000
listening we're going to get into some Halloween music later on but no now we'll be songs I promise

231
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:32,080
but first I want to get into a quick dedication John Peel BBC DJ extraordinaire again he was a

232
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:39,360
DJ for the BBC longer than I've been alive and longer than fans of the music that he

233
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:46,080
helped promote was alive hopefully that made sense he passed away earlier this week

234
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:53,680
very sad and and definitely very sad occasion for London because he was just huge out there

235
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:01,280
responsible for the discovery and popularity of bands like the Smiths and pulp and the

236
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:08,240
cure a lot of great great music video promote I'm in a play something that according to the

237
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:15,360
BBC's website they did a really nice piece on him on his biography apparently his favorite track

238
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:24,160
was a a single called teenage kicks by the undertones in 1978 he played it constantly

239
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:32,720
until finally Sire Records landed a deal with the undertones and and they got the music

240
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:39,680
a little more widespread I'm not going to play the original by the undertones I'm going to go ahead and play

241
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:47,360
a cover version by busted which came out just recently so there you go a little bit of cover

242
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:53,520
ville thank you very much Scott Brenner for turn me on to that and I was happy to hear the whole

243
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,600
piece about John Peel who we spoke about before on the daily source code and now you can hear some

244
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:03,200
of the bands you discover but also hear what you know what was being said about how he just played

245
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,840
these songs over and over and over again and that's exactly what we can do with podcast you know

246
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,280
this is this is how it works you know if records don't become hits without some kind of

247
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,840
infrastructure oh there you go that's another one for the list when you need a top 40 right podcast

248
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:24,240
pod tune top 40 something like that email from Dithermaster boy that I that I

249
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:32,560
fucked up on this remember yeah yeah yes I played those I trip tones to see if I could change

250
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:39,840
everyone's iPod to a different frequency so I got some feedback on that Adam if you want the

251
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:45,840
I trip tones files to actually change frequencies you have to not play the bit after the pause that's

252
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,280
the cancel code that makes the I trip not change frequencies it's there sort of your iPod plays the

253
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,880
frequency songs by accident say during the all play shuffle mode then your I trip won't change

254
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:07,520
frequency so I guess it didn't work as you would say in the programming biz so yes I shouldn't have

255
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,600
played the second blitz okay so that makes sense because I always wondered about that if if you're

256
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:19,120
iPod accidentally picks one of those tunes at random which has those tones in it you know will

257
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,280
it then start switching frequencies that's how they solve that with just little hack by putting in

258
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:30,480
the clear tone for not to change but he says please please don't send that in your podcast it

259
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:37,680
would suck for anyone using an I trip no longer packing the I trip files to change back or worse

260
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:44,160
fumbling with their iPod on traffic and crashing I used to use an I trip I would curse your

261
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,760
name if you did that you know what now they think about it yeah that was pretty stupid I'm sorry but

262
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,880
you know in case we need it we can always use it as some kind of you know emergency broadcast system

263
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,200
and it's good to know that it's there the latest search engine from Google could turn out to be a

264
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:06,080
privacy nightmare once installed in a computer running Windows 2000 or Windows XP the new Google tool

265
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,520
can find whatever's done on that machine including email sent or receive via outlook or outlook

266
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:17,920
express AOL instant messaging and web visits it won't just give you an idea it will actually show

267
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,440
you the physical pages and things that you've done. Pam Dixon is head of the world privacy forum

268
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,880
she's concerned that the beta version of a Google desktop search now available for free downloading

269
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:35,520
is not password protected so if you install it anyone with physical access to your PC has easy

270
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,280
access to whatever you've done machine so for example let's say you go shopping online it will

271
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:47,920
collect your credit card numbers if you do banking online collect your passwords and you're on my

272
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,280
thinking financial information and consider this use a computer that has Google desktop search

273
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:58,000
installed say you want to check your email from a friend's house they can see everything you did

274
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,760
on that computer in complete detail by the way Google is the first but other companies have similar

275
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,640
search engines in the works and that's today's tip i'm her voice bomb the consumer man

276
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:14,480
looking out for you on coma 1000 news i love her he's always looking out for us you should

277
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,360
subscribe to that if you're not already a coma 1000 news podcast you can find in the ipod.org

278
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:25,200
directory and a reminder that if you want to look for new podcast that have just been updated or just

279
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,720
fresh audio dot weblogs dot com is where you can check those out if you want to get on that list

280
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,000
there's an information ipod.org as well about how to use the ping form or use a blogging tool

281
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,880
that'll do that for you automatically so that when you publish your podcast everyone knows about it

282
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,560
and of course there's also a back end to that which can be used by developers as well you know

283
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:54,720
imagine i'm using ipod.rex currently i'm waiting for the new ipod 11 version their next release

284
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,640
i can't wait to try out all different pieces of software but you know already we're integrating the

285
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,560
directory so what if there's a new show you know it could you could have stuff high light or tune you know

286
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:12,640
just all kinds of cool things we can do and you can you know set up rules and oh boy love it

287
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:20,560
talk about blogger con for a second tomorrow will be wins day or actually it will be wins day later on i'm gonna

288
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,760
the in the afternoon early afternoon i'm gonna go to Amsterdam i'm gonna stay overnight there

289
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,440
clay fly from Amsterdam from triple airport Thursday morning around noon uh yeah just before noon

290
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:40,400
i fly by along to San Francisco and uh blogger con this is blogger con three is of course

291
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:48,080
at excuse me Stanford University on Saturday November 6 and i'm going to be a discussion leader

292
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:55,440
for podcasting session it's going to be uh i'm very excited about it um i'm on the plane i'm

293
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,440
going to you know kind of making out line or actually going to use now line or making out line

294
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,240
of you know what i want to try and get accomplished um if you have any thoughts about that

295
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:10,000
please do do email me and put it in the subject line you know blogger con you know session thoughts

296
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,360
or whatever because uh i'm a real mess with email right now i'm trying to get through it all

297
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:21,280
and i'm trying to prioritize but it's a mess it is just a mess there's so much email coming in

298
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,440
and i've learned from the past that the less email you send the less you receive but even that's

299
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:31,600
not really helping right now uh so in preparing for my flight i'm also uh stocking up on on podcast

300
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:38,400
it's really hard i'm forcing myself not to listen um there's uh uh let's see uh IT conversations

301
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:45,600
behind the mic uh uh interview with it with my uh my partner and crime Dave Winner um and i've

302
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,840
listened to a little bit of it but you know i want to save it i want to save that for the for the plane

303
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:56,640
there's also uh Doug K was on a web talk radio uh we're also podcasting now and i want to listen to

304
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:03,440
that uh what i do catch uh and i'm so happy Dave uh um at this i think this is for the first time

305
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:09,120
and i talked to him about it he is now uh morning coffee notes is now officially a podcast and it was

306
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,200
in you know about time we still we still need to get an opening tune for him but now he's he's put

307
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:19,040
some structure into the show and what the couple things i really like about uh about uh the morning

308
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:25,440
coffee notes uh one is the into just that even the title suggests such an intimacy you know you know

309
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,400
here we are and of course i come from the written port the written version of morning coffee notes uh

310
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:37,760
which is kind of you know Dave's brain dump uh uh you know that that he has with his morning coffee

311
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,480
but they don't necessarily have to be done in the morning they can be done at any time but there's a

312
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:48,400
real intimacy and uh i got to find out what microphone is using because it sounds really clean you know

313
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,680
it's just a very clean uh audio in fact if i'm listening on the on the iPod sometimes i can

314
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,520
hear i think it's a refrigerator or something that's kind of humming in the background and when that

315
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:05,840
kicks off then you really realize how quiet it is um and uh so i wanted to play a little piece

316
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,280
about uh the food this whole this whole podcast is great because there's stuff in there about

317
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:17,920
how to make money on the internet with web logs with podcasts and um and and Dave goes into some

318
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,320
some good detail about that i really suggest you listen to it if you're interested in making money

319
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:29,440
you may not be um but as it relates to blogger con um he did a little piece about the Saturday

320
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,800
food for thought dinners uh and i'm hosting one table i think there's a whole bunch of tables um

321
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,440
and it's actually two i think two podcasting tables and dawn and drew will be hosting a second

322
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:47,600
table so what a hood um but the thought behind the the food for thought dinners is uh there's a

323
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,000
couple of different thoughts behind it but the one that i that i really like the most is comes from

324
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,160
some personal experience that Dave has with uh with conferences which i find to be exactly like mine

325
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:03,280
care to talk about what you you know what you signed up for but also it's okay to wander a little bit

326
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,960
it's a it's a it's a social event and that leads to the second reason why uh we do these dinners

327
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:17,280
is so that there can be a Saturday evening social event for basically that's open to everybody

328
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,680
and this is one of the nicest i went to uh the world economic form conference in uh

329
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:30,000
in Dallas uh Switzerland uh in 2000 and um this was one of the nicest things that they did there

330
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:37,040
now had i relied on you know making dinner plans with uh people that i knew uh at the conference

331
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,720
i would have eaten dinner alone every night um as i had in the early years of my career in the

332
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:48,720
computer industry where you know i wasn't necessarily you know i for many years i wasn't an 18

333
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,160
you know and people didn't necessarily want to eat dinner with me they were always kissing up and

334
00:36:54,160 --> 00:37:00,000
trying to eat dinner with you know more famous or richer people and uh more influential people

335
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:06,560
and so very often i would be at these conferences um um you know first or second nights and have

336
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:13,280
absolutely nothing to do you know which was really ridiculous because um you know those are the

337
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,000
people that pay for the conference by the way the people who don't have anything to do on the

338
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,480
and of course buttercon is a is a free conference you don't have to pay to come to it but the

339
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:29,440
principles still stands in fact you know we we for more or less codified this we tried to

340
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:36,480
discourage people from having private events at the conference uh they do happen people will get

341
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:43,360
invited to uh you know sort of like invite only sorts of things uh and they don't invite me to

342
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:49,520
them anymore because i tell them forget it don't do it i won't go you know because i feel that

343
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:56,320
i'm trying to in in doing this conference to create um something that's kind of like the

344
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:03,920
blogged sphere where um anybody can set up a blog you don't need to be um sort of an industry

345
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:09,680
insider or an influential person or anything like it and as a result many of the really if you did

346
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:15,280
didn't many of the good blogs wouldn't exist um mine sure wouldn't exist i mean i'm not the kind

347
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:21,760
of guy the industry you know likes to turn to for um insider advice they they more or less like to

348
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:29,600
forget about me and um no which is why i played it don't come easy it's getting over it all right so

349
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:35,520
that's a bit from morning coffee notes and you'll be hearing a lot more uh on multiple podcast about

350
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:42,880
blogger con i'm sure of it i let a new podcast now it's the gator jug podcast

351
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:03,360
good morning this is Mike Levin this is your podcast from the swamp and uh we are here in beautiful

352
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:10,480
winter park florida on monday november first it's about six forty five a.m. the sun is just coming up

353
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:20,000
we don't have much debris left from the uh the um hurricanes that have hit but there's still a bit

354
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:27,520
in the streets it's the day before election day and uh i'm just back from beautiful Switzerland

355
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:36,320
my wife ran the double in marathon last week this is from the the poor brethren of the podcast

356
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:44,240
you've ever just gone monday that was a a lifelong dream of hers and i decided to meet her in Zurich

357
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:51,840
on Wednesday and then we had lunch in Milan for the weekend uh from florida to Switzerland and uh

358
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:58,000
enjoy a change of pace and uh climate and et cetera for a couple of days okay that's right

359
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,400
of the gator jug podcast there just want to let you know that there's all kinds of different voices

360
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,800
out there do a different things and of course now that i've got the production notes together you'll

361
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:14,080
be able to find the podcast feed directly uh from the post and uh this was it uh the some other

362
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:20,400
stuff we're working on uh uh uh that's too early to talk about that i don't know how to explain it yet

363
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:27,520
hit when that happens uh another promo uh people using openpodcast.org to uh to promote

364
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,480
their stuff which i think is a great idea i really like this open podcast idea of you know just a

365
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:38,800
place where you can either phone in uh or you can email a file i think it also email a url and point

366
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:45,680
to a file um very cool concept because it's kind of like the PR engine of podcasting uh and

367
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,240
i think there's room for many different ones you know there should be a podcast feed

368
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,840
that's for certain types of announcements you know it should it should be short things which

369
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,840
these openpodcast.org pieces are really interesting uh particularly uh when it came across uh

370
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:25,520
this promotional announcement hello world introducing some instale.net a place where you can find

371
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:32,160
music from Germany where your club can find informations about bands from Germany and we can find

372
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:42,640
some stuff from the internet check it out some estale.net it's spelled as a mm-e-l-s-t-e-l-l-e

373
00:41:46,250 --> 00:42:18,750
[ Music ]

374
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:30,720
rock scene was always tripping out a little bit you know the just a whole the whole culture and the

375
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:34,640
whole vibe is a little bit different from uh from the states or maybe even any other year

376
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:40,080
you can definitely know cool little jingle there at the end actually i should look this up

377
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:46,640
uh because um i hung out with the scorpions uh remember they were really big uh uh what was uh

378
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:54,000
was the wind the river or what was it uh i can't remember the name of the song um but they did

379
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:59,120
something called the mascom music piece festival i should talk about a couple stories because i

380
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:07,520
went along with that that was an 88 i think um actually i i i'd put up a site one time uh which is

381
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:14,560
at mtv.curry.com where i had started uh this is when uh David first introduced me to directories and

382
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,760
i started putting a directory together um and i started you know just an alphabetical directory

383
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:25,040
there's some missing spaces but i was writing all the stories codifying what happened in the

384
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:33,040
at the mtv days and that you hear it is i'm i'm gonna read the story to you oh this is funny okay

385
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:44,080
holy shit um okay many a story this was posted um uh on oh wow how about this this was posted

386
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:54,000
on november second 2001 at 1259 p.m. damn so that was you know a year ago exactly whoa okay

387
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,400
i don't know this that there's a reason for that obviously let me read this to you many a story

388
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,040
must be told about the mascom music piece festival among the many attendees like aziyahs born

389
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:11,120
and bunjilvi were German rock gods scorpions shenker swans it my tale of aziyahs born you can read

390
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:16,240
parts of the incredible journey we made from Newark to Moscow you made a quick stop in Frankfurt to

391
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:22,000
pick up claustmina and the rest of the scorpions the scorpions were semi retired by then the drummer

392
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,240
was even living on a mountain top and monkey carlow so these guys were pretty used to the star

393
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:31,360
treatment star treatment was a far cry from the accommodations we were given in Moscow yes it was

394
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,520
the best hotel on town but they still had to turn on the hot water facility and that part of town

395
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:40,960
especially for us the beds were mattresses filled with straw though each room did have a tiny

396
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,360
black and white set with one channel running that I suppose with some government propaganda

397
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,480
this is before the wall came down so we were in the heart of communist russia in another story

398
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,280
i'll delve into how skid rose Sebastian Bach and i wound up hanging out with the masco chapter

399
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,800
the hell's angels a telephone was not a service considered standard in russian those days

400
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,360
there was one phone per floor on the hotel and operator physically sat by the phone and if a

401
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,920
call came in she would knock on your door to inform you that there was a call you take the call out

402
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,760
in the hallway at her at her little station subsequently making a phone call was even worse

403
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,480
you give the number to the phone lady who would schedule the call to be made the lag time between

404
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:26,000
scheduling the call and getting place was about six hours i guess the kgb wanted to ensure their

405
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,960
taps were in place later i hooked up with some cool guys from the westward one radio satellite

406
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:36,160
truck who would link their stuff so they had an actual 516 area code dial tone in the truck for

407
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:41,760
which let me use whenever i wanted to call home for those without such geek contact she

408
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,520
really had to stay in the neighborhood of the phone lady since she called might be put through

409
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,080
after only four hours of waiting time last thing you want was to miss her knock and have to

410
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:56,640
reschedule the call so i mean the hallway on the way to pick up a can of tuna fish from my room

411
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,960
one of the items on the list for everyone to bring when i noticed the phone lady is trying to

412
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,000
figure out where root off shanker is because it's called been placed and was waiting for him

413
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:11,520
now since the scourps axman wasn't in his room i figured i'd be a good dooby and try to find him

414
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:17,040
so i knocked on his brother's door which wasn't closed properly it's one open upon my knuckle

415
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,320
wrap to reveal root off sitting in a chair receiving a blow job from some germ if from some

416
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:29,120
Russian girl whoops phone call for you i closed the door and decided i didn't want the tuna fish

417
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,760
and that's it for the source code for today and her body

418
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:40,400
as i told you so if you're hearing this before you voted i'm sorry one more time please

419
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:46,560
go out and vote for John Kerry and uh i will bring you another dating source code tomorrow

420
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:52,480
from uh amceband at the end of the day and of course on Thursday probably when i land in

421
00:46:52,560 --> 00:47:00,880
sentences now as always your comments and welcome i love the audio comments as much as you

422
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,760
can track over and look so i'm sure with it so send that to atomacore.com

423
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,400
or leave a comment on my weblog live.curry.com i'll post all of it

424
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,640
archives and the most recent shows available at dailysourcecode.com

425
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:20,000
and the podcast fingers there as well dating source code.com slash RSS.

426
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:20,640
action out.