1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Well everybody, how are you doing? Welcome to the very first podcast coming to you from the Starbox 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:23,000 I have from Gilford right now I'm getting a whole bunch of people looking at me quite strangely 3 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:29,000 What the hell is that guy doing over there in the corner? He's clearly talking to himself 4 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:34,000 And what's that thing he's actually talking into? It's a wonderful 5 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:42,000 I'm gonna see you back in the explain on the front event of the day and explain to you exactly why we're coming to you from the Starbox 6 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Some Gilford where I located on Marcus Street right off the high street, which is completely located in the center of the lovely town of Gilford 7 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:56,000 This is the Starbox where the having upstairs which kind of looks like a what's it called kind of like a frat house 8 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:02,000 It's got all these crushed velvet chairs full of all kinds of stains that you really don't want to wear 9 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:14,000 And they've got the music cranking here. They've got the tunes going there's a whole bunch of people here who are connected to their 10 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 To the Wi-Fi, which is 11 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:22,000 But more than I can say for the cottage at the time being is gone through quite a bit of crap in a couple of days 12 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:28,000 And let me try to explain and let me tell you what I'm going to be doing here for as long as it takes essentially 13 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:38,000 So yesterday was December second and I was promised that my telephone line at home, which is 14 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Connected by British telecom that it would be provisioned to a DSL line, which means basically they they unplug it at one end 15 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:55,000 And plug it into another socket and then you have a DSL connection which means you can have a telephone line running over it 16 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Or you can have broadband running over that same line 17 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Now there's a whole bunch of providers you can choose from in the United Kingdom 18 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,000 And the way that works is the infrastructure is basically put in by British telecom 19 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,000 There's nothing you can do about that that's the same in many countries 20 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,000 I'm not quite sure in the states who owns most of the copper wire probably 18T owns a whole bunch of it 21 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:24,000 But in the Netherlands it's KPN. It's all the you know these used to be government organizations that they would run the phone companies 22 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 So the infrastructure is British telecom 23 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,000 They offer a broadband service which is limited and needed to 30 gigabytes a month 24 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Now we've been through that at the castle, so I knew it didn't want that 25 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,000 And I wanted an unmetered service and there was this and I did a lot of research by the way 26 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,000 And I called up companies I talked to them because I wanted to make an educated choice and do it right 27 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,000 And I got a lot of help from the blogger sphere and people who listen to the source code 28 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Giving me ideas even though I hadn't really disclosed the location of where we were living 29 00:02:54,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Now everyone knows because I'm so pissed off that all places the mini silicon valley of the United Kingdom 30 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Which gulfed in some respects really is that you can't get a home based DSL broadband at the time being 31 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Because British telecom says there's no more ports available to let me continue 32 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,000 I chose UK online because first of all they have an unneeded service 33 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Talk to the guys and tech support they sounded really nice really helpful 34 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Very knowledgeable about what they were doing 35 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:32,000 And decided to go with them now they're just the ISP basically British telecom still has to plug me in and activate my line 36 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:38,000 And then I'm essentially just logging in through you know just logging in over the network 37 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 So really it's all back-end stuff 38 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,000 So it doesn't matter who I would go with 39 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,000 And no matter what provider the physical connection of the DSL line comes from British telecom 40 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:55,000 So they even set up a date which was December 2nd and they told me they told the ISP UK online 41 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Which is UK online dot net of course links to everything in the show notes for today 42 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:08,000 You know that they were going to provision my line which basically means the guy goes down to the exchange and you know switches my line over 43 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:15,000 So it didn't happen yesterday I called up like five after six last night because it could be provision between 44 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,000 830 AM and 6pm and they said well hold on a second 45 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Now it looks like it still hasn't been provisioned when you call back in the morning 46 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 And we'll be able to call British telecom and find out what's going on 47 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:34,000 So I did that this morning and they called BT and British telecom said well, you know we're really sorry 48 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:42,000 But they're just no more ports available so we can't plug you in no matter who you're with until someone leaves or until a port becomes free 49 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Well that's a problem particularly when you told me we're going to do it 50 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,000 And I can't blame the the ISP they're just kind of sitting in the middle and you know they don't know what to do 51 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,000 So I called up British telecom verified the story and they said you know 52 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,000 And I said well what if I take a broadband from BT doesn't make any difference or we can't help you 53 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Well am I on the list yeah of course you're on the list well where am I on the list or we can't tell you 54 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Well how does it work you know well since we have to be impartial to all providers there's some magical cue somewhere 55 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:21,000 So it sounds like a whole cacophony of crap sitting there 56 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Just unclear to what's going to happen, but the one thing I will tell you that you cannot have a community like this 57 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Which is literally filled with researchers, scientists, professors, students 58 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:39,000 I mean it's a go go look at Gilford on Google and I'll supply a couple of links to the research park in the business park 59 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:45,000 You can't have people come here and live if they can't get DSL broadband and if they can't get it reasonably quickly 60 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:51,000 So this should be seen as a community wide problem not just a podcast community problem and by the way 61 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Having the prints of pod without pipe is fucked up ladies and gentlemen 62 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 It really sucks 63 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:03,000 So a whole bunch of people helped out you can see the comments on my weblog live.curate.com 64 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Some folks were even at Lee Wilkins for instance I'm going to try and call Lee on Skype in a second 65 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Lee Wilkins knows some people some monkey mugs with inverters telecom 66 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,000 And he's going to try and run stuff up the flagpole internally 67 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Receiving it anything changed other people sent me links to satellite broadband companies 68 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:35,000 I looked at a lot of that and even though they do have DVB which is digital video broadcast in the UK which is much lower orbiting satellites 69 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,000 And I guess comparable to DAB 70 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:49,000 There's basically every single service besides being outrageously expensive anywhere from three to three hundred to seven hundred dollars a month 71 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Outside of your installation charge of a good two thousand dollars there's bandwidth restrictions 72 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Which is exactly what I don't want right 73 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Excuse me that's the coffee mocha 74 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Coming back like bad Mexican food for lunch 75 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Okay, so 76 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Other options were 77 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Cable now apparently I do live in an area that NTL cable 78 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Does provide access to 79 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:28,000 I registered sent to my details they sent me emails saying they will contact me that was four hours ago 80 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Of course they haven't contacted me yet 81 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:37,000 And regardless the soonest they'll be able to install anything will be on the 20th of December which is I can't live that long 82 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,000 It's just this like it's like not having hot water in your house 83 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:46,000 I cannot live without broadband. I told Patricia I said I will have to fucking move 84 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:54,000 This is only one step lower than on the scale of crap as the dogs and cats having to go into quarantine 85 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,000 So we'll see what happens until then 86 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:06,000 And I've gotten past the pissed off stage now. You know I was really really angry really angry this morning as you might well imagine 87 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Now I'm in a just a problem solving mode 88 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,000 So if it means that I will have to sit here every single day every week day until I get broadband installed 89 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,000 I've to sit at Starbucks and do the podcast from here and look like a total fool 90 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Then I will if that's what it's going to take. In fact starting today every week day 91 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:28,000 You can find me at the Starbucks and Gilford on Market Street is right off of the high street 92 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 You can find me upstairs kind of in the corner close to the 93 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Electrical outlet. I've got my full kit here. I've got my SM7 sure microphone 94 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,000 It's the one on the on the stand. I've got the table stand. I've got my my M audio breakout box 95 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 So if you bring your own mic we can plug it in we can plug in instruments even 96 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,000 But every day at 2 o'clock in the afternoon. I'll be doing the podcast from here 97 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,000 And I'm cranking up with some music right now to get into the mood 98 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Good with my American heartbreak 99 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,000 It's a Michael Butler's band from Rock and Old Geek Show here's sick and tired 100 00:09:03,750 --> 00:12:33,750 [ Music ] 101 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,080 shoot, what is it? 102 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,960 December 3rd, 2004 coming to you from the Starbucks on Market Street right off the 103 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:52,200 high street in Guilford, in the United Kingdom, just the stones throw away from the cottage. 104 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:57,680 So now that we all know where I live or more or less, let's see if we can get Lee Wilkins 105 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:01,560 on Skype here. 106 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:10,560 Let's see if we can get him on Lee, hello Lee, Lee are you there? 107 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:16,560 Hello Lee, can you hear me? 108 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:19,560 Hmm, I heard him for a second there, it looks like we lost them. 109 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:23,560 Let's see if he's maybe just who now actually looks like he went offline. 110 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:26,560 So we'll see if Lee can come back in a sec. 111 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:30,560 Usually at this point, if I were on the radio and this were live, I'd say if you just 112 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:32,560 tuned in, then this is what we're doing. 113 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:36,560 But I guess that makes no sense because you've been tuned from the beginning presumably. 114 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,560 It would be cool if I could get Dave one. 115 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:41,560 Oh, I think it comes to Lee, let's see if we can get him in now. 116 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:49,560 Lee, hello Lee, Lee, can you hear me? 117 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:53,560 I can hear Lee, maybe he can't hear me for a second reason. 118 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:54,560 Hold on, let's see. 119 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:56,560 Yes, I can hear you. 120 00:13:56,560 --> 00:14:00,560 Yes, I guess he can't hear me, hold on. 121 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:04,560 Maybe I have to change some setting here, hold on. 122 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,560 Yeah, I see the problem here. 123 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:10,560 The input should be set to, well, you should be able to hear me on this. 124 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,560 I understand Lee, me not hear you. 125 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:15,560 Well, I can hear you. 126 00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:19,560 Turn on your speakers. 127 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,560 Just a thought, dude. 128 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,560 I mean, I can see there's, it's going in. 129 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,560 I can see that there's sound coming out. 130 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Let me try the internal microphone. 131 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Does that make any difference leaking here? 132 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,560 No. 133 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,560 I hear this. 134 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,560 There on. 135 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,560 I hear the Skype beat. 136 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Shoot. 137 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,560 Come on, Lee. 138 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,560 Shoot, I guess he just hung up. 139 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,560 That makes no sense, because I can hear him. 140 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,560 Okay, we'll see if he'll call back in a second then. 141 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Ah, you mind if I reboot? 142 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,560 No. 143 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,560 Go for it. 144 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Okay. 145 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,560 Perfect. 146 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Well, then I suggest, what should we do? 147 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,560 Shall we wait for Lee to reboot? 148 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,560 Because I really wanted to get him on for two reasons. 149 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,560 One, he's been helping me out. 150 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,560 Very nice of him. 151 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,560 He's been helping out with the, with the bandwidth problems. 152 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,560 The second one being. 153 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Excuse me. 154 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,560 Oh, man. 155 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:16,560 The mocha. 156 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:17,560 I got it. 157 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,560 I can't drink coffee and mocha. 158 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,560 Before doing a podcast. 159 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,560 This should be a new podcast rule. 160 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,560 Can't do that. 161 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,560 Let's see. 162 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Is there anything else I can play? 163 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,560 God, I don't have anything else prepared, really. 164 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,560 Any other stuff? 165 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Let's see. 166 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,560 Dave Weiner, I guess he got up and went to bed. 167 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:44,560 Dave actually wrote a nice little piece on scripting news that I'll read to you all, 168 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,560 waiting for Lee Wilkins to come back online. 169 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,560 He must have something wrong with his, with the setup. 170 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,560 Because I can see that we had audio going out. 171 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,560 And I could definitely hear him typing. 172 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,560 Let's see what Dave wrote. 173 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,560 I guess Dave got up. 174 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,560 What time to get up? 175 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,560 Yeah. 176 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,560 317 in the morning Pacific time. 177 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,560 He writes on his weblog scripting news. 178 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,560 That's scripting news. 179 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,560 Scripting.com. 180 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,560 I was hoping that my partner in podcast. 181 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Adam Curry will be back on the air today. 182 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,560 But apparently it's not going to happen anytime soon. 183 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,560 British telecom says they have no more ports. 184 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,560 That someone has to leave before he can get one. 185 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,560 And there's a wait list. 186 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,560 Of course, we're all really disappointed. 187 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,560 Not just Adam. 188 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,560 He's part of an international community. 189 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Yeah, fucking A. 190 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,560 And I'm sure that the community is going to help out in this case. 191 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,560 Because I can just feel it. 192 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,560 I can just feel it. 193 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Okay. 194 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,560 Let me see if I've gotten any more. 195 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,560 Any more suggestions have come through on the comments on the weblog. 196 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,560 And this is the problem with not having any broad band. 197 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,560 Just all your normal communications. 198 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Forget being able to upload or download podcasts. 199 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Your normal communications are just shot. 200 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,560 It takes 20 minutes to just have mail come in. 201 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,560 You know, let alone that there's no. 202 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,560 I can't cash attachments or anything like that. 203 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,560 So I have to remember which attachments to go back and get later on. 204 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,560 I mean, it's really, it's a pain. 205 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,560 Okay. 206 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,560 Let me see if I have any comments. 207 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,560 Yeah, it seems to be a new comment on the latest posting. 208 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,560 I did about bandwidth and deal further. 209 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Let's see what that comment says. 210 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Oh, this is funny. 211 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,560 This is from Nightwise. 212 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,560 Good luck out of my see. 213 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,560 You've taken quite the liking to your new title. 214 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,560 The Prince of Pod is indeed far better than the Sultan of Small Band. 215 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,560 Good luck at Starbucks. 216 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Everyone feels my pain indeed. 217 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:37,560 By now we have 25 different comment links on the previous posting of people trying to help me out. 218 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Let's see if there's anything new that came in. 219 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,560 Even saw my sister post on that. 220 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,560 Oh, boy. 221 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,560 There's lots here. 222 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,560 Let's see. 223 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,560 Moving back to Belgium. 224 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,560 That's a good option. 225 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,560 Do you haunt the cottage? 226 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,560 Let's see. 227 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Okay. 228 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,560 I can have. 229 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:57,560 Oh, this is nice. 230 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,560 Someone could. 231 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,560 Someone has a staff and Antwerp called the CEO of British telecom request. 232 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:08,560 An interview was part of an international documentary film entitled The World's Most Backward Telephone Companies. 233 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,560 Oh, that's good. 234 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,560 Everyone says I should use my name and use my cloud. 235 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,560 I don't know about that. 236 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,560 Let's see. 237 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,560 What is Drew? 238 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,560 Oh, Don and Drew. 239 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,560 Drew checked in. 240 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Drew actually has a satellite link. 241 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:33,560 I think at the farmhouse in Wisconsin. 242 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:38,560 And I don't think he's very happy with that either. 243 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Okay. 244 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,560 Now let's see. 245 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:50,560 Let's see. 246 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,560 How about a. 247 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,560 We could do with the serious bitties. 248 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,560 I haven't played one by the serious bitties in a long time. 249 00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:59,560 Oops. 250 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Hold on. 251 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:01,560 Jason's up here. 252 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,560 Okay. 253 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,560 Thank you. 254 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,560 As a problem with Skype out these days. 255 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,560 Just like I turn on Skype and then within three seconds. 256 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,560 I've got people all over the place. 257 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,560 Insight messaging me and, you know, calling and requesting requesting chats. 258 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,560 It's a drawback. 259 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,560 Real drawback. 260 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,560 Treeplayless serious bitties. 261 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Then we're waiting for for lead to come back online. 262 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,560 It's only two minutes and 43 seconds if you want to skip ahead. 263 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,560 This is called the truck song. 264 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,560 Enjoy. 265 00:19:33,750 --> 00:22:06,250 [ Music ] 266 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,560 LeCivius Bitties and the truck song here on the daily source code for Friday, 267 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,560 December 3rd, 2004. 268 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,560 We are two days away from what the Dutch would call center class. 269 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,560 I think I probably explained this before. 270 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Certainly written about it on my weblog. 271 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:29,560 That the Dutch, although Christmas has certainly become more of an institution 272 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,560 mainly because of commercialization. 273 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,560 They have their version of Santa Claus. 274 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,560 This show up on his white horse with his black peat helpers, 275 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,560 which is literally what they're called black peats. 276 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,560 And they are black. 277 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,560 Talk about discriminatory celebrations. 278 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:53,560 And they go from door to door from rooftop to rooftop on the 5th of December. 279 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,560 And put presents in children's shoes. 280 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,560 Of course, originally these were wooden shoes that they did that. 281 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:06,560 So even though Christina doesn't need to have anything in her shoe. 282 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,560 Just because of the family that we still have all living back in Holland, 283 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,560 we're kind of following along with the celebration. 284 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,560 But here in the UK it's all Christmas meant. 285 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,560 Everything is Christmas, the high street. 286 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,560 Let me explain about the high street. 287 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,560 Every town basically has a high street. 288 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,560 It's kind of what we call the main drag. 289 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:31,560 And in Guilford where we live, the high street is closed off to traffic until 5 or 6 every single day. 290 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,560 And it's great. 291 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,560 You can walk. 292 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,560 It's cobblestones. 293 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,560 It's beautiful, you know, quite little streets. 294 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,560 But also the most modern and the most fashionable. 295 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,560 I mean, you don't need to go to London if you want to do some shopping. 296 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,560 You just come to the high street. 297 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,560 And right off to the high street is a market street. 298 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,560 And that's where the Starbucks is that I'm at. 299 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,560 And I'm using the T-Mobile Wi-Fi link. 300 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,560 Only costs like there's Lee. 301 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,560 Only costs like 30 pounds for the week. 302 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,560 So let's see if we can get Lee and Lee. 303 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,560 Hello Lee. 304 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,560 I don't know if they're comfortable. 305 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,560 So I can hear him. 306 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,560 That's what's crazy. 307 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Why can't Lee hear me? 308 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,560 I don't understand. 309 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,560 I'll send him an instant message. 310 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,560 I can hear you. 311 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,560 Come on Lee. 312 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,560 Say something to his dude. 313 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:31,560 Maybe we should try this with someone else and see if see if I can get it to work with 314 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,560 with another person. 315 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,560 I'll send him an instant message right now. 316 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:42,560 I'm going to try something else. 317 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,560 Stand by. 318 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:51,560 And say hi to every one on the source code. 319 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Come on. 320 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,560 Say hi. 321 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,560 Let me try and call someone else here. 322 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,560 Hold on. 323 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,560 Let me call Ron Bloom. 324 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,560 He's my former partner at the company. 325 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,560 We took public in 96 called Think New Ideas. 326 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,560 And I got him running on Skype recently. 327 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,560 I can see his online. 328 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,560 And usually when Ron's online, he'll pick up. 329 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,560 I think he just turns the computer off if he's not using it. 330 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,560 Shoot. 331 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,560 This is not doing the way I wanted it to do. 332 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,560 Okay. 333 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,560 Let's try Dave Winner then. 334 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Although it looks like Dave's asleep. 335 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,560 We'll give him a shout anyway. 336 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,560 See if he's up and about. 337 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,560 We need some dialing music. 338 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Do we have any dialing music? 339 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,560 I don't think we do. 340 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,560 Here we do. 341 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Here's some nice dialing music for your bottle. 342 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:18,560 Trailer for sailor rent. 343 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,560 Now doesn't look like that's gonna work, does it? 344 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,560 Oh, this blows. 345 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,560 I ain't got no cigarettes. 346 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,560 I bet. 347 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,560 Time wrong. 348 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,560 Boom. 349 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,560 Boom. 350 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,560 Boom. 351 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Is it? 352 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Hey. 353 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,560 For a bit. 354 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,560 Boom. 355 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,560 Man. 356 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,560 The means by no means. 357 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,560 Prince of the pod. 358 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,560 Hey. 359 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,560 We should make that sound. 360 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,560 Shit. 361 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,560 Okay. 362 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,560 I don't understand why Lee Wilkins can't hear me. 363 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,560 Let's try it one more time. 364 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,560 Hello, Lee. Can you hear me? 365 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,560 Shoot. 366 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,560 Okay. 367 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,560 Oh. 368 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,560 Boy, did my Skype just crash there? 369 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,560 Yeah, did hold on. 370 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,560 Maybe that was the problem. 371 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,560 Maybe it needed to be uncrashed. 372 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,560 Can you hear the room? 373 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,560 Hey, we should redo the song. 374 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,560 Prince of the pod. 375 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,560 Cool. 376 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,560 Hey, let's listen to him while Skype is restarting. 377 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,560 No other than names. 378 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:48,750 [ Music ] 379 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,560 Telling you that you can make a new hit. 380 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,560 Prince of the pod. 381 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,560 In the 12th of April, my love. 382 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,560 Man means by no means. 383 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,560 Prince of the pod. 384 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,560 Okay. 385 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,560 Let's try Lee again. 386 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:16,560 Lee. 387 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,560 Hello Lee. 388 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560 Lee. 389 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Hello Lee. 390 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,560 Damn. 391 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,560 Lee. 392 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,560 Hello Lee. 393 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,560 Hello Lee. 394 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Oh, this is sucks. 395 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,560 It's really fucking sucks. 396 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,560 This is not what I planned on doing. 397 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,560 Hold on. 398 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,560 Oh, that's probably Lee calling me now. 399 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,560 Lee. 400 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,560 Lee. 401 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,560 Lee. 402 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,560 That's why I say. 403 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,560 Lee. 404 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,560 Lee. 405 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,560 Lee. 406 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,560 Lee. 407 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,560 Hey. 408 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,560 I can hear you. 409 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,560 Fine. 410 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,560 Yeah. 411 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,560 You can't hear me at all. 412 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Okay. 413 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,560 We'll hold on. 414 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,560 We'll do it this way because now you can. 415 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,560 Can I call me? 416 00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,560 Call me on Skype. 417 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,560 But don't hang this line up. 418 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,560 We'll just talk this way. 419 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:08,560 Because I'll be able to record both ends. 420 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,560 Uh. 421 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,560 Yeah. 422 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,560 I could Skype out. 423 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,560 Hold on a second. 424 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,560 What? 425 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,560 To this number? 426 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,560 Hold on a second. 427 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,560 Let me. 428 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,560 Okay. 429 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,560 What give me the number? 430 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,560 Yeah. 431 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,560 Yeah. 432 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,560 Okay. 433 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,560 Okay. 434 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,560 I'll call you right back. 435 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,560 Okay. 436 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,560 Okay. 437 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,560 That was actually a fairly intelligent idea Lee had there. 438 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,560 I could just try to Skype out. 439 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,560 Which means I'm going to use the telephone. 440 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,560 The telephone version. 441 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,560 Okay. 442 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,560 So let's see. 443 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,560 It should be. 444 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,560 Uh. 445 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,560 Country code. 446 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,560 Four. 447 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,560 I'm going to just enter the number. 448 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,560 One. 449 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,560 One. 450 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,560 Two. 451 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,560 Okay. 452 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,560 Let's see if this works. 453 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,560 I'll be cool if that did work. 454 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560 I wonder maybe I have to put a plus. 455 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,560 Plus sign. 456 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,560 Okay. 457 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,560 Hold on. 458 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,560 Field. 459 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,560 Gee, this is a lot of fun in it. 460 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,560 Okay. 461 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,560 This should be. 462 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,560 Come on. 463 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,560 There we go. 464 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,560 Ooh. 465 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,560 Just might work. 466 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,560 Lee. 467 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,560 Oh man. 468 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,560 Skype fucking crashed again. 469 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,560 Fucking bugger. 470 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,560 Wow. 471 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,560 Did that sound English or what? 472 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,560 But God damn it. 473 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,560 Okay. 474 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,560 Let's suck. 475 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,560 Skype shouldn't be crashing. 476 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,560 One away. 477 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,560 We're now. 478 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,560 Okay. 479 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,560 30 minutes into this podcast. 480 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,560 I'm still going to try and keep it at 40 regardless. 481 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,560 Oh man. 482 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,560 Okay. 483 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,560 Starting up Skype again. 484 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,560 Let's see if. 485 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,560 It must be something wrong. 486 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,560 That's clearly. 487 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,560 Okay. 488 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,560 So I'll put my plus in there. 489 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,560 Four. 490 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,560 Okay. 491 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,560 Let's try this again. 492 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,560 If long as Skype doesn't crash, then we're good. 493 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,560 But we need a new version of Skype. 494 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,560 That's for sure. 495 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,560 Lee. 496 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,560 Can you hear me now? 497 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,560 Don't tell me you can't hear me this way either. 498 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,560 He can't. 499 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,560 God. 500 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560 This is all. 501 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,560 Ah. 502 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,560 Well, there's clearly something wrong with my Skype set up then. 503 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560 That's for sure. 504 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,560 Let's see. 505 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,560 Maybe if we change. 506 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,560 Hello. 507 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,560 Lee. 508 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Hold on. 509 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,560 Don't go away. 510 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,560 Don't hang up. 511 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,560 Don't hang up. 512 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,560 Don't hang up. 513 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,560 Don't hang up. 514 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,560 He hung up. 515 00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,560 Shit. 516 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,560 Okay. 517 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,560 I'm just going to try in the old way. 518 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,560 I'm going to ask him to call me on the phone. 519 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,560 So clearly there's something wrong here. 520 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,560 Okay. 521 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,560 We'll just do it that way. 522 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,560 We'll just have him. 523 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,560 I'll call him on the phone. 524 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,560 And this way we'll be able to record it. 525 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Hello. 526 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,560 Lee. 527 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,560 Can you hear me? 528 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,560 No. 529 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,560 I'm sure you can't hear me. 530 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,560 Okay. 531 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,560 Hold on. 532 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,560 Come on Lee. 533 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,560 Where are you, boy? 534 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,560 Okay. 535 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Call me on the cell. 536 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,560 Call me. 537 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,560 Then we have it. 538 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,560 Okay. 539 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,560 There. 540 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,560 Yeah. 541 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,560 Yeah. 542 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,560 Okay. 543 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,560 Buddy. 544 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,560 How are you doing first of all? 545 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,560 I'm doing pretty well as you can imagine. 546 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,560 I'll explain it in a little while. 547 00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,560 What happened. 548 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,560 It's not so much me on the blood. 549 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,560 It's trying to put on a very face. 550 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,560 Let's set this up properly. 551 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,560 Because Lee, I've known you for maybe a month or two now. 552 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,560 I met through, well, through podcasting one way or the other. 553 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,560 And Lee is kind of like a stalker. 554 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,560 Yeah. 555 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,560 But a good stalker in a way. 556 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,560 And he's been, been skyping me and we've been talking off and on for a while. 557 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,560 And we hooked up by a telephone just a couple days ago. 558 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:39,560 And he told me this gut-redging story that I just wanted to let everyone know. 559 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,560 Because I think that the daily source code listeners could easily help with this problem. 560 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,560 Lee, you just want to explain what happened. 561 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Because you were, you would move to the States, right? 562 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,560 You were going to go, you had a job line up there, not too long ago, right? 563 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,560 That's correct. 564 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:04,560 On the 25th of May this year, the UK company that I was working for sent me to the States to help with the US operations. 565 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,560 Which for a 22 year old and being given it opportunity, you know, you're like, yeah, yeah. 566 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,560 That's correct. 567 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:10,560 Yeah, exactly. 568 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,560 So we're in four weeks. 569 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:17,560 You know, on the first of May this was arranged and by the 25th of May, we touched down in Atlanta. 570 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:26,560 So as we landed, we were kindly put up by one of the members of this social networking site that I worked for. 571 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:33,560 So we touched down and you know, she hadn't, there was a few problems there, which meant we would kick down. 572 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,560 Because our dogs ate a tomato plant and I hadn't even started to grow. 573 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,560 When were your dog ate a tomato plant? 574 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Yeah, she kicked us out because of it. 575 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,560 What out of your apartment? 576 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,560 No, the yard of somewhere where we were staying. 577 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,560 Right. 578 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:57,560 So we'd, and during that time, you know, as you know, if you yourself from your park, your blocks this morning, 579 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:03,560 getting broadband, you know, almost within a few days, finding somewhere to live is not easy. 580 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,560 No. 581 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,560 So you had your two dogs, you took with you to the States. 582 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,560 Correct. 583 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,560 We bought them from London. 584 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,560 We, to get them from London to the States. 585 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,560 All we had to do was have the microchip. 586 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,560 How certificates. 587 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,560 Right. 588 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,560 And that was pretty much it because the UK is considered as a rabies free country. 589 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,560 Oh yeah, definitely. 590 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,560 Yep. 591 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,560 So we got them to the States and to cut long story short. 592 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,560 I was fired. 593 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,560 Or I was a subcontractor. 594 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,560 I was contracted for them. 595 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,560 Yeah. 596 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,560 So you moved your entire life, including your two dogs. 597 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,560 And then your contract was cut. 598 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,560 Yeah. 599 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,560 We sold everything. 600 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,560 We were standing somewhere. 601 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,560 We just lost Christmas. 602 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,560 We kicked out our whole apartment. 603 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,560 You know, dogs' ball of stuff. 604 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,560 It's a huge table. 605 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,560 You know, that aside because we've done a full cow. 606 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,560 Yeah. 607 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,560 And because it is new opportunity that we thought would be great. 608 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,560 You know, for young 22 year olds to do. 609 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,560 Yeah. 610 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,560 And to travel and move to the States. 611 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Yeah. 612 00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,560 Of course. 613 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,560 It's a beautiful thing to do. 614 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,560 And I thought I wanted to do it since I was 16. 615 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,560 I wanted to study there at first. 616 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,560 So, you know, I grabbed the opportunity as quickly as I could. 617 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,560 So we got to the States and we were in that land. 618 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,560 And then we got fired. 619 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,560 And we moved to Houston. 620 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,560 I hope I find in Jenny, my girlfriend's and work. 621 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,560 Right. 622 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,560 She's also 22. 623 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,560 She's 20. 624 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,560 Okay. 625 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,560 Right. 626 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,560 She was a bit guided. 627 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,560 Actually, she couldn't drink legally in the States. 628 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,560 Even though she could do so hard to hear any UK. 629 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,560 Right. 630 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,560 I think in that sense, she's glad to be on. 631 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,560 Yeah. 632 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,560 At least there's some benefit because what happened is. 633 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,560 Now, you guys were, you see, you, 634 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560 essentially, you decided to come back. 635 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,560 Right. 636 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,560 Since things didn't work out in the States. 637 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,560 Yes. 638 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,560 But then because you'd been there so short and you hadn't really had time to focus on it, 639 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,560 you didn't have time to get your, 640 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,560 the dogs, the rabies shots. 641 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,560 They needed to come back into the country, right? 642 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,560 Correct. 643 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,560 And I, and I just don't think all about you. 644 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,560 I'm an expert now when it comes to the, when it comes to rabies and getting your dogs and cats in, 645 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,560 because we barely squeaked under the wire. 646 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,560 So, so basically they have to go into quarantine. 647 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,560 That's correct. 648 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,560 That has to go into quarantine for six months. 649 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,560 If we can get them, if and when we can get them to the UK. 650 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,560 But what do you mean, if and when you can, where are they now? 651 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,560 They're coming at Atlanta. 652 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,560 And this is what's making it more exciting. 653 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,560 Because of the, you know, they're happening through, because of Delta. 654 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,560 We'd spoken to Delta two weeks prior to our flight. 655 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,560 And they booked our dogs on the flight. 656 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,560 And we just assume that they've booked them as a fantastic cargo because, you know, 657 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,560 they should know what they're doing. 658 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,560 And I'll ring them up two days before the flight. 659 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,560 And a day before I'm due to drive 900 miles from Houston to Atlanta. 660 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:58,560 Just ask us, because I want it to know that requirement size is for the kennel cases to travel in. 661 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,560 As you said, the woman said, no, sorry, pets don't, pets can't fly. 662 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,560 This is almost like, like, my broadband is like, yeah, sure, no problem. 663 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,560 And then on the day off, it's like, oh, I'm sorry. 664 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,560 That's a problem, right? 665 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,560 Yeah. 666 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,560 Yes. 667 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,560 And plus on top of this, you know, money was tired. 668 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,560 And I had to try it. 669 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,560 So I didn't have access to a phone or anything. 670 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,560 And I've got a day to sort out the dogs. 671 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,560 So you basically didn't have time to sort it out at all. 672 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,560 No, we, we, I managed to find a, uh, a ball game kennel that we were thinking perhaps just 673 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,560 leave them there for a few days. 674 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,560 But as soon as we got there, I'm telling you these kennels were the worst kennels that I've ever seen. 675 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,560 You know, I wouldn't want my worst enemies to live in these kennels. 676 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,560 And this is the delta kennels. 677 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,560 This was a company that dealt are used. 678 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,560 Oh, shit. 679 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,560 So what, what kind of dogs are these Lee? 680 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,560 Uh, we have two little jack russles. 681 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,560 Ah. 682 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,560 And we've just missed their birthday. 683 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,560 Uh, Alfie's birthday was last week. 684 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,560 Well, what's the other dog Alfie and who? 685 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,560 Benson. 686 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,560 And Alfie and Benson. 687 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,560 Okay. 688 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,560 So, so let me just recap here. 689 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,560 So if I understand properly because of the incorrect information Delta gave you. 690 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,560 Um, and that you had to drive, you know, a thousand miles didn't have a phone, et cetera, et cetera. 691 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,560 You couldn't get your dogs on the same flight as you, as you and your girlfriend Jenny had coming back 692 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,560 to the UK. 693 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,560 So they're now stuck in Atlanta or in Houston. 694 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,560 They're stuck in Atlanta. 695 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,560 Okay. 696 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,560 How do we get them out? 697 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,560 What needs to happen? 698 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,560 Um, well, because we don't need set aside $220 that we thought Delta told it was originally 699 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,560 going to cost. 700 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,560 Um, the fee had not. 701 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,560 It comes down to don't do it. 702 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,560 And the only people that can fly pets legally, 703 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,560 route of Atlanta into London get week is continental. 704 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,560 Right. 705 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,560 And, you know, I, at the airport, I've done the pig in as much as I could. 706 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,560 Um, with me stuff flights and it all went a bit crazy. 707 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,560 But that's neither here nor there. 708 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,560 But to fly them out with continental, it's going to cost around $1,500. 709 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,560 Oh, geez. 710 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,560 And that fees grow in by 20 dollars a day because of the kennel costs as well. 711 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,560 Right. 712 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,560 And this is the horrible can all that they're in. 713 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,560 Yeah. 714 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,560 And the girlfriend, you know, to be honest, I know she's going to listen to this. 715 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,560 And she's probably going to buy my head off. 716 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,560 She's almost, she's so close to losing the plot. 717 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,560 She's talking to the dogs that aren't even there. 718 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,560 Oh, you're kidding me. 719 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,560 She's not sleeping. 720 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,560 She's beside herself. 721 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,560 Of course I understand. 722 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,560 This is exactly what would have happened with Patricia. 723 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,560 I totally understand. 724 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,560 Oh, this is horrible. 725 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,560 Okay. 726 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,560 So, um, when I heard this story, I said to Lee, I said, 727 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,560 we got to do something about this. 728 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,560 And I know how many people subscribe to the daily source code. 729 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,560 And did you, were you able to set up a tip jar like a PayPal tip jar or something? 730 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,560 Lee? 731 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,560 Yes. 732 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,560 If anyone's willing to help out. 733 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,560 You know, we will be great. 734 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,560 For if you haven't got Alfie and Benson.com. 735 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,560 That's Alfie. 736 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,560 Spel it. 737 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,560 A-L-F-I-E. 738 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,560 And Benson-B-E-N-S-O-N.com. 739 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,560 Okay. 740 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,560 So, there's a PayPal link there that they can donate some money to getting Alfie and Benson back. 741 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,560 There is correct. 742 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,560 Okay. 743 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,560 Well, that's excellent. 744 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,560 Um, you know, if every source code listener were to just donate one dollar. 745 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,560 Yeah. 746 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,560 But you wouldn't have to work for the rest of your life. 747 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,560 Yeah. 748 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,560 But I'm hoping that we can get enough. 749 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,560 And, you know, and let us know when you have the 1500. 750 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,560 Okay. 751 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,560 So that we can, uh, we can celebrate that. 752 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,560 I'm pretty sure that we can get at least 1500 daily source code listeners to donate, uh, 753 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,560 one dollar at least. 754 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,560 I'm going to, I want to put in my donation right after we hang up and, uh, and, you know, 755 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,560 let's, let's get Alfie and Benson home. 756 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,560 At least they'll be home in the UK. 757 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,560 And then they still have to sit and quarantine for six months. 758 00:41:32,780 --> 00:41:33,780 That's credible. 759 00:41:33,780 --> 00:41:37,560 We just found out we've actually got 12 days to fly one of them back into the country 760 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:44,060 because he's choose some medical, um, I don't know there will be girlfriend. 761 00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:48,560 If she feels with that sort of that she's, he's chosen tablets and stuff and injections. 762 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,560 Or it doesn't give you, it doesn't have them in 12 days. 763 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,560 Oh, this is a horrible story, Lee. 764 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,560 Yeah. 765 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,560 I feel so bad for you. 766 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,560 We have so bad that if you check out Leiratus.com we even put on laptop out there for sale 767 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,560 that the only laptop that we have. 768 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,560 that we have. 769 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,560 We don't want you selling her laptop. 770 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,120 Now I don't want you selling your laptop. 771 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,320 I'm sure that the podcast community can hop in here and help out. 772 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,320 Should be totally doable to get 1,500 bucks totally. 773 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,320 What else do you think? 774 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,880 I just like to thank you for giving me the chance to tell my story. 775 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,880 No, Lee. 776 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,160 It's listen from one pet owner to another who's been through the scare and I got off 777 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,160 lucky. 778 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:30,560 Especially to have your dog sitting in America in a kennel that you know is all that great. 779 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,560 It must feel horrible. 780 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,560 It must feel just terrible. 781 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,560 It is. 782 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,560 It is. 783 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,560 It's very good. 784 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,560 Okay. 785 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,560 All right, then, Lee. 786 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,560 We're about 42 minutes into the source code. 787 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,560 So I'm going to wrap the show up. 788 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,560 I'll go and donate to the first dollars in just a few minutes. 789 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,560 We'll get the podcast out there and let's hope that we can get Alfie and Vincent home pretty soon. 790 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,560 Thanks. 791 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,560 Thank you very much, everybody. 792 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,560 Everybody. 793 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,560 All right, Lee. 794 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,560 I'll talk to you later. 795 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,560 Okay. 796 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,560 Thank you very much. 797 00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,560 Okay, buddy. 798 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,560 All right. 799 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:06,560 So that's Lee Wilkins on the daily source code with a real sob story. 800 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,560 Been waiting to get the story out to you for like three days because well, it wasn't able 801 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,560 to do it because of the lack of bandwidth to be able to do a Skype call. 802 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:20,560 So please go over to Alfie and Benson.com and help out Lee and his girlfriend Jenny. 803 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,560 It's just a sad story. 804 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,560 Those poor puppies. 805 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,560 Those Jack Russells are just sitting there and some horrible kennel in Atlanta. 806 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,560 So let's help them out. 807 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,560 And then get me some fucking broadband. 808 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,560 Will you please? 809 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,560 Because that's what I really need. 810 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,560 I'll leave it at that for today's source code. 811 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,560 I'll be back Monday here from the Starbucks. 812 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:44,560 It's your daily source code coming to you from the Starbucks on Market Street. 813 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,560 We'll be here every single weekday at 2 o'clock. 814 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,560 Come on in and join the party if you want to. 815 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,560 It's right off the high street in Guilford in the UK. 816 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,560 Comments. 817 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,560 Adam at curry.com. 818 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,560 Please don't add the comments. 819 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,560 And any three is attachment but send a link to it. 820 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:04,560 That way I can download and once I get to the Starbucks. 821 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,560 Once again, thanks for tuning in. 822 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,560 We'll check you out on Monday. 823 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,560 Have a great weekend everybody. 824 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,560 Bye bye. 825 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,560 Thank you.