1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,880 Well, everybody, welcome to the thank god and spread edition of the daily source code. 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,000 My name is Adam Curry coming to you partially from the cottage in the UK from Curry Cottage 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,000 and we're about to go to a new location, actually studio A8. 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:30,000 So here's the deal. 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:37,000 I was scheduled to be interview today for Wired Magazine, which I presume was all about podcasting. 6 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Anly knew it, came to Guildford and she actually turned out that they're doing a whole big piece on radio for Wired Magazine 7 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,000 and that they're actually featuring me and part of that is podcast. 8 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,000 That was all about podcasting, but turned out to be a semi-profile on me, so of course it took me much longer than expected. 9 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:05,000 It took me hours to talk about myself, you know how that goes. 10 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:13,000 So after about three hours of pushing room, hanging out at Starbucks and talking about my life, 11 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,000 of course, eventually the question came, can I watch it do a podcast? 12 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,000 I said no, no, you cannot watch me do a podcast, you can be in a podcast with me. 13 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:30,000 And this is not the right place at Starbucks, at least because, you know, I have two headphones and really close micang because of all the noise. 14 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:41,000 So I suggest that we then walk up to the parking spot where I have the Audi and we use the A8 studio to record a little show. 15 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:50,000 And it turned into kind of me interviewing Annely and she interviewing me and what we talked about all kinds of stuff, like start fucking, and well you name it. 16 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,000 In fact, you're going to enjoy it right now. Today is Friday, source code. 17 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Enjoy. 18 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Okay, so perfect point to slide into the beginning of the podcast from the A8 studio A8 in overlooking downtown Guildford. 19 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 What does that mean studio A8? 20 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 That means that I'm sitting in the car studio. 21 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 I have a little bit too much reverb actually for the car studio. 22 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Hold on, hold on, hold on. 23 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 I turned the reverb off. 24 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Ah, much better. 25 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Here with Annely. 26 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Do you want to be identified as... 27 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Sure, you can identify me however you want. 28 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,000 As a journalist here today from Wired Magazine. 29 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Yes, that's right. 30 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Okay. 31 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 And we've just sat in Starbucks for... 32 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,000 I can't believe we sat there for about three hours. 33 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Yeah. 34 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 And actually, we're not sticky or there's no problems. 35 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Well, when I got up, I did feel the chair, like kind of the covering lifted up with me as I stood up. 36 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Yeah. 37 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 I noticed that girl who then said, okay, please sit there. 38 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Didn't she say that immediately? 39 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,000 She did. 40 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,000 She wanted our seat. 41 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Cause next to the outlet. 42 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Outlet. 43 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,000 Yes, the power. 44 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Electronic power. 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 So Annely came... 46 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Now, we've been in contact for about a week or so. 47 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 And she asked if she could come and interview me. 48 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 And I figured it was more about podcasting than anything, 49 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,000 but now that we just spent three hours talking about me. 50 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Yeah, that's what I was telling you. 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about himself. 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,000 I'm good at that. 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Yeah, he's, yeah. 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,000 You can tell. 55 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,000 That's what the Saliliqui is all about. 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,000 That's right. 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Yeah. 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,000 He's a practice, a practice self storyteller. 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Story. 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 No, no, no. 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 You know, that's interesting because... 62 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Because that is what I've done my entire life. 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,000 The minute you put on a pair of headphones and you have a microphone, 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 you're kind of talking to yourself. 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,000 And I've always imagined that there's probably one other person listening. 66 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Whether there were thousands, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands, 67 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 or perhaps millions where they were watching on TV. 68 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 And it feels no different to this... 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 The podcasting or being on MTV. 70 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 In fact, on MTV was even easier. 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Do you know that actually that we all were kind of talking to the crew? 72 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,000 They were standing right next to the goddamn camera. 73 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,000 The guy, you know, the camera up would, you know, 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 you could see and put his head around smiling or whatever. 75 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Or the associate producer who would be there, you know, 76 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 trying to make sure that you're saying all the right things 77 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 or hitting all the promotional items. 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 And basically just be talking to them. 79 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 And you feel good right when they laugh and stuff like that. 80 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Yes. 81 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,000 I want the camera got a laugh. 82 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Exactly. 83 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,000 How did you know that? 84 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Did you watch enough MTV to pick up on that? 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 It's true. You can tell that it's playing right to the camera. 86 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Totally. 87 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 And I see some of that now. 88 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Do you remember when E started up and E was kind of like 89 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 MTV of entertainment before turning to what it is now? 90 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Because that was started by Lee Masters, 91 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,000 who was kicked out of MTV by John Reardon, 92 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,000 just some inside dirt there. 93 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 And it was exactly the same thing. 94 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 You're doing all this entertainment news, 95 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 but basically laughing with the camera crew 96 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 trying to, you know, get a rapport going. 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Yeah. 98 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 And so we essentially had the same thing with podcasting. 99 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Only the feedback doesn't necessarily come from the camera crew. 100 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 It comes from, you know, the podcasters themselves. 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 And the e-mail listeners. 102 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Yeah. 103 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 The e-mail, well, you just, we just went through 104 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,000 some of my, my production that I, that I do for the show 105 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 with basically scanning the e-mail downloading all the MP3s. 106 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 And I haven't had a chance to listen to everything. 107 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,000 So I might put some of those things on the next show. 108 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,000 But I just wanted to figure out what exactly you're doing. 109 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Because you, I mean, you must, first of all, 110 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,000 you had something else to do, right? 111 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 It wasn't just, you didn't just come over all the way 112 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 to, to Guilford just for me. 113 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 But no, I was just in Guilford for you. 114 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 I, I can go for it. 115 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 But you went London for other things, right? 116 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,000 There was other stuff you could do. 117 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,000 I came all the way to London just for you Adam. 118 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Really? 119 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Yeah. 120 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,000 And you're not shitting me, right? 121 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,000 No, I'm totally not. 122 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Don't change it because we had a really good rapport 123 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,000 because it's totally true. 124 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 I flew all the way out to London. 125 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,000 And it's like, I'm so paid for me to come out and talk to you. 126 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Who? 127 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Uncle Sy. 128 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Uncle Sy? 129 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Oh, he's the, is he the dude? 130 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 He's the dude. 131 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,000 And wired? 132 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Okay. 133 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000 So, he's not the founder of wired. 134 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,000 No, no. 135 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,000 He just owns it. 136 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 He owns Condonast. 137 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Oh, okay. 138 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,000 So he actually personally? 139 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,000 No, he didn't personally call me and say, hey. 140 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Okay. 141 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Condonast. 142 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,000 But that's Condonast is like big. 143 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 They own, like, lots of languages. 144 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 You can't even, I'm like a fly on his shoe. 145 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Like he has no idea. 146 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Don't put yourself down like that. 147 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,000 No, I mean, on size shoe. 148 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 I mean, I'm sure there's other people who care, who care more. 149 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Okay. 150 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,000 So. 151 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,000 And, you know, no offense side for listening. 152 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 I mean, just to, just so I can understand this. 153 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,000 So someone says, there's a, do you mind just walking through it? 154 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,000 How the work? 155 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,000 So there's a meeting. 156 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 There's a meeting. 157 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 The high level thinkers at wired magazines get together. 158 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 And they come up with something smart that they want to cover. 159 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,000 You know, cover. 160 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Like in this case, radio. 161 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Okay. 162 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Oh, radio. 163 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Okay. 164 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,000 That's the, yeah. 165 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,000 And, you know, some secret that we will not disclose stories or assign to various 166 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,000 people that are all about the, you know, the sort of mutations that radios going through. 167 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Now that technology is changing. 168 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Right. 169 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000 We were talking about before, right? 170 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Challenges to radio. 171 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Yes. 172 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,000 From, you know, new technologies and radio really hasn't gone through that. 173 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,000 And, and so then, you know. 174 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 So for XM, that's kind of, that's kind of what that is. 175 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Yeah, I mean, that's out, that's out there's so far. 176 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:27,000 And there's actually now, there's a program that some guys invented, which allows you to record XM. 177 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 And then enable it and, you know, store it. 178 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Yeah. 179 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Yeah. 180 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Sort of. 181 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000 But where do you store it? 182 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,000 In the car or at home or. 183 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,000 You store it on your media player on whatever, whatever, you know, 184 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Okay. 185 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Your audio player is. 186 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Yeah. 187 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Yeah. 188 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,000 I don't mean to say media player like the windows. 189 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 No, I know. 190 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Generic. 191 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Thank you. 192 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Thank you for, yes. 193 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Thank you for clarifying. 194 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,000 That's important. 195 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Please do not use the window media player. 196 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Why not? 197 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,000 It's evil. 198 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,000 No. 199 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,000 DRM. 200 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,000 And Microsoft in general has some, I think, poor policies regarding its media player. 201 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 But we could talk about that later. 202 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Okay. 203 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 But yes. 204 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 So this is for a big radio article. 205 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Well, it's about, so there will be articles about radio. 206 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 And I'm doing the article in podcasting and featuring Adam Curry. 207 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,000 See, this is the part that really I loved. 208 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,000 The Prince of podcast. 209 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 The Prince of podcast. 210 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Yeah. 211 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 You heard that. 212 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Don't tell me you've heard that. 213 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,000 The Prince of podcast. 214 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Did you hear the song? 215 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,000 I haven't heard you encouraging people to create the song. 216 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 I haven't heard any Adam Curry for like two days. 217 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,000 I mean, except in person, which is, you know, which is, of course, as much better than. 218 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 But it's different, you know, when somebody is in person. 219 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 You know, it's weird to like hear somebody on their podcast and meet them in person. 220 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,000 You keep wanting to like not look at them and just hear their voice. 221 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,000 And it's like not so distracting. 222 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,000 There's like a person attached to the voice that's really in my iPod. 223 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Yeah. 224 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Yeah. 225 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,000 So what are you doing? 226 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Well, what I was doing is actually I was going to see. 227 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,000 I have my iPod here and I put my eye trip on because we're in the A8 studio. 228 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Right. 229 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,000 What I was going to do is I was going to play something over the sound system here. 230 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 So we can record it through the microphones at the same time. 231 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 You know, you can also hear it because you're not wearing headphones. 232 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 And I don't have a, it's not a real studio. 233 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 No. 234 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000 I don't know. 235 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,000 I don't even know. 236 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,000 I like the fact that there's a map of Gilford on his little. 237 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Isn't that the shit though? 238 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Isn't that the shit though? 239 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 It also has little icons for where you can check this out. 240 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Check this out. 241 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 That red sun looking. 242 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Shit. 243 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 I don't know. 244 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 What is that? 245 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Yeah. 246 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Is that a places you can go to get tattoo door? 247 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,000 And we should check that out. 248 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Well, watch this. 249 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Watch this. 250 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Because this is a DVD navigation system. 251 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 So watch me zoom out. 252 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 And you'll see. 253 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Does it show like planet earth? 254 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Wow. 255 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,000 So I can go to any place within this map, which is all of Europe. 256 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Wow. 257 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Let's go to, let's go Berlin. 258 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Okay. 259 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Okay. 260 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Hold on. 261 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Let's go. 262 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Let's go to Berlin. 263 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,000 So country. 264 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Right. 265 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 We'll select Germany. 266 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Town. 267 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 This is being loaded. 268 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 It's a big ass country. 269 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 It's not that big anymore. 270 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Well, for a whole bunch of towns. 271 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Hold on. 272 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,000 But we could go to an obscure German town. 273 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Hold on. 274 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Well, Berlin. 275 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Berlin. 276 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Berlin. 277 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,000 In multiple languages. 278 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Okay. 279 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Berlin. 280 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,000 What is Berlin here? 281 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 It's a little Berlin. 282 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,000 It's a Berlin in Dutch spelling. 283 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 I want to go to special destination or just a street. 284 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Let's go special destination. 285 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Yes. 286 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Maybe we can find out what that is. 287 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,000 Yeah. 288 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 It's a little sun. 289 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,000 It's a little sun. 290 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 It's a landmark. 291 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,000 How about an ice skating rink? 292 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Fine. 293 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Ice skating rink of Berlin. 294 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,000 I don't understand why the ice skating rinks aren't also landmarks. 295 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Well, not necessarily. 296 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,000 There might be, could be a landmark. 297 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Here. 298 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Ice, ice, portala. 299 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Do we go there? 300 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Ice, portala? 301 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Yes. 302 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 We even got the phone number. 303 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 We now set a destination. 304 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Start route guidance. 305 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,000 When it starts us with the globe. 306 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 I just want you to know right now. 307 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 We're seeing a slow zoom. 308 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Okay. 309 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 There it is. 310 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,000 There's our route. 311 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 If we leave now. 312 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 We will be there at 330 this morning. 313 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Great. 314 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Well, all the way. 315 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,000 We have to go underneath. 316 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,000 We have to take the train. 317 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 All the way from Gilford to the ice rink in Berlin. 318 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Yeah. 319 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 We could be that at 330. 320 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,000 If we left right now. 321 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 That's great. 322 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Well, that's the power of technology. 323 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Isn't that wonderful? 324 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,000 And it also has the traffic monitor system. 325 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,000 So what the traffic is going to be like? 326 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Well, what it'll do actually. 327 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 It'll route you around bad traffic. 328 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Wow. 329 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Yeah. 330 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 And they can shoot. 331 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Okay. 332 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Now, what I was going to do. 333 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 I was looking for the Prince of Pod. 334 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,000 I can't believe that you haven't heard that. 335 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 You haven't heard enough. 336 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 I know clearly. 337 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 My ears are not. 338 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 I have not. 339 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Hold on a second. 340 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,000 You see how easy it is to fill up 10 minutes of. 341 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Of of MP3 space. 342 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,000 We just did 10 minutes. 343 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,000 I know. 344 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Just looking at maps. 345 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 It's easy. 346 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 And people eat to shut up. 347 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Well, let me see if I can find Prince of Pod. 348 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 It's true. 349 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,000 I mean, I was willing to listen to like 20 minutes of you not being able to launch Skype. 350 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,000 With Lee. 351 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,000 With Lee Wilkins. 352 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Lee. 353 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Are you there? 354 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Oh, dude. 355 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Oh, man. 356 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 It was just like hanging out with my friends. 357 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 We were like. 358 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Oh, no. 359 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Oh, no. 360 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Oh, no. 361 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Oh, almost. 362 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Oh, no. 363 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Oh, no. 364 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Oh, no. 365 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,000 Oh, no. 366 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Oh, no. 367 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Hold on. 368 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,000 That's the BBC traffic report cutting. 369 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Hey, Jenny. 370 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,000 You're all. 371 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 On the internet. 372 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,000 In that cool. 373 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Someone has a traffic report. 374 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,000 It cuts in. 375 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 It just keeps letting you know. 376 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Here at the ice rate. 377 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 There's a little bit of traffic. 378 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Okay. 379 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,000 I seriously want to play a song for you, though. 380 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 I seriously. 381 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Okay. 382 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Hold on. 383 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,000 See how much I hate this iPod interface. 384 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Now, how long it's taken me to find something. 385 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 He's doing that thing where you like spin your finger around the dial. 386 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 He's using his thumb, though. 387 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,000 A lot of. 388 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,000 You do it with your finger. 389 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,000 The index finger method. 390 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Really? 391 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,000 The thumb. 392 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 I don't have the thumb method is. 393 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,000 You know. 394 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 That's. 395 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 That's interesting. 396 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 The thumb. 397 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,000 No, the thumb method is the only. 398 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,000 I only know the thumb method. 399 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 You got to learn the finger method. 400 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 It's. 401 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,000 I think it's faster. 402 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 But it's. 403 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,000 It also requires two hands. 404 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,000 So. 405 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Okay. 406 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,000 So I'm going to. 407 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 He's testing the finger method. 408 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Yes. 409 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 The finger method sucks. 410 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Okay. 411 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 I want to play some with severe spitties. 412 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Excellent. 413 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Now, you've heard of him, right? 414 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,000 I have. 415 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Have you actually seen him live? 416 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,000 I haven't. 417 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 No, I just heard him on your podcast. 418 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 And I was like. 419 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Okay. 420 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 I'll do. 421 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,000 I'll play. 422 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,000 You do have to meet him. 423 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,000 In fact. 424 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Oh, let me. 425 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 I'll have to pull this up for a second. 426 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Well, this is. 427 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,000 What's setting up? 428 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Well, it's. 429 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:48,000 The listivious bitties are performing. 430 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 I'm such a mess. 431 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Are performing Sunday night in Manhattan. 432 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Of course, there's not the email I was looking for. 433 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 I want to put that in later. 434 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,000 I guess. 435 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 This is me taking a drink of water. 436 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Go for it. 437 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Do I have. 438 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 See, Leanna sent me. 439 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Leanna from a severe spitties. 440 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,000 It sent me email. 441 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 There's so many different email accounts. 442 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Okay. 443 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 I'll post about this in the in the production show notes. 444 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,000 But essentially they're doing a show on the. 445 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,000 14th. 446 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 So that's Sunday. 447 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Sunday Monday. 448 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Well, today is the 10th 11th 12th. 449 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,000 It's Monday. 450 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Then I guess. 451 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Well, in Manhattan at 11 o'clock, no cover. 452 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,000 And if you use the secret word. 453 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Yeah, which we have to come up with. 454 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Then you get in free at the door. 455 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,000 So of course, it would be. 456 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,000 What's a good word? 457 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 What's a good secret word that people just want to say podcast. 458 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,000 So that too. 459 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 podcast is good podcast or source code or. 460 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Yeah. 461 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Or you could do like something that was, you know, more self-promotional. 462 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Like I love Adam Curry. 463 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Yeah, no, no, no. 464 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Because that would be wrong. 465 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Um, no, I'm just still trying to figure out where her email went. 466 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 I had it saved obviously. 467 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,000 I'll find it. 468 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Now, it should be. 469 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Just podcast. 470 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Yeah, I think podcast works, right? 471 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Okay. 472 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Yeah, it's broken. 473 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Okay, podcast. 474 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,000 If you meant, and I'm going to give you all the details. 475 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Uh, what we'll do is we're going to play some list of these 476 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Bitties. 477 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 And let me see if this is working. 478 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Yeah, I think it is. 479 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Yes. 480 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,000 Okay. 481 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Um, I'm going to play famous. 482 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 That's one of my favorite Bitties songs. 483 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 So we have to kind of be quiet what place. 484 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Then otherwise you'll, they'll hear us. 485 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Okay. 486 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,000 But it'll be cool. 487 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Here's the CBS Bitties. 488 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:51,000 So I have to find the right spot, so it doesn't crackle. 489 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,000 I want to be famous. 490 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,000 I want to wear minks and sattens and pearls. 491 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,000 I want to be famous. 492 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,000 More than just any old girl. 493 00:16:03,000 --> 00:17:02,000 [ Music ] 494 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 When they see me, how they'll smile. 495 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 When they see me, how they'll smile. 496 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 When they see me, how they'll smile. 497 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,000 When they see me, how they'll smile. 498 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,000 When they see me, how they'll smile. 499 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000 When they see me, how they'll smile. 500 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:31,000 [ Music ] 501 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:46,000 When they see me, how they'll smile. 502 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,160 When they see me, how they'll smile. 503 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,160 When they see me, how they'll smile. 504 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,000 When they see me, how they'll smile. 505 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,000 At the point of the day I start to get laughing. 506 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,000 It was like there's a team and when they have all the fashion, sort of like old times. 507 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Yeah, I like that, I love that. 508 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Yeah, I know, I love that. 509 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,000 They give her a buddy, a little bit. 510 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Yeah. 511 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Kind of like lounge singer. 512 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Yeah. 513 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Yeah. 514 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,000 I think he played in circles this time. 515 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Oh, I'm sure. 516 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Yeah. 517 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Okay. 518 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 I'm planning to keep that up. 519 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,000 But he knows. 520 00:18:21,250 --> 00:19:02,000 [ Music ] 521 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,000 Colored Hills, Martini's dry. 522 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 A little way and just good touch. 523 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Oh, oh, oh. 524 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:15,000 I want to be my famous better than all of my friends. 525 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Oh, much better than all of her. 526 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:23,000 I want to be famous, lonely and unknown at the end. 527 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:46,000 [ Music ] 528 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Hey, my friend. 529 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Welcome to Adam Curry's Jazz Cafe. 530 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 Everybody. 531 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,000 All right. 532 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 That was the serious bitties. 533 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000 I want to be famous. 534 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,000 You can check them out at bittiesforever.com. 535 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000 And I found the email. 536 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,000 So it's Tuesday. 537 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,000 There's a, I even got me information wrong. 538 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,000 It's Tuesday. 539 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 There's a no cover show in Manhattan at 11 p.m. 540 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,000 It's the bitties holiday party in Manhattan at the living room. 541 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Any idea where that is? 542 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,000 It's 154 Ludlow Street. 543 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,000 And there's even an, I'll put this in the podcast show notes. 544 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000 2125337235. 545 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 One set 11 p.m. 546 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,000 And here's the deal. 547 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,000 The end suggests you could give your listening audience a secret code. 548 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 So they can come up to me or the production manager Ben. 549 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Say the code. 550 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 And they will know how many people came. 551 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Thanks to the podcast. 552 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Maybe she's just during the, during the set. 553 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000 Just say anyone here from the source code. 554 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Raise your hand without talking. 555 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Yeah. 556 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000 There's another way to go. 557 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,000 My be better. 558 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,000 But also the, the secret word is pod squad. 559 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 That's what it has to be. 560 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000 Pod squad. 561 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Pod squad. 562 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Pod people. 563 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Pod people. 564 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Yeah. 565 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Like we're going to come up. 566 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Similarly you. 567 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Oh, no. 568 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 But anyway, definitely go check out. 569 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,000 It's a no cover. 570 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:17,000 So go check out the, the bitis, the, the listivious bitis at the bitis holiday party in Manhattan at the living room. 571 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Tuesday to some of 14th 11 p.m. 572 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 154 Ludlow Street. 573 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:30,000 I think great thing about these podcasts is you can basically use the thumb or finger method to replay that message and find out exactly where it is. 574 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Still here with with Analy who's come to lovely gilford. 575 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Uh, to talk about pod casting and did you get enough about me and you think you know enough about my life? 576 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000 I feel like I do. 577 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Yeah. 578 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,000 You didn't have any of the sex questions I expected. 579 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,000 There was none of that. 580 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Yeah. 581 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,000 I mean we could do the sex questions now. 582 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Yeah. 583 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Okay. 584 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000 So I'm waiting for you to interview me some more actually. 585 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000 I think that'll be really cool. 586 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 So, you know, how was sex with Michael Jackson? 587 00:21:54,000 --> 00:22:00,000 You know, when I met Michael Jackson was the weirdest thing the first time I met him because we 588 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,000 met him. 589 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:08,000 This is when I had to give him the Michael Jackson video Vanguard award, which was created only for Michael Jackson, so he would. 590 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 He could only be given to him by you precisely. 591 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000 Yeah. 592 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000 You know the story. 593 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 And the reason why the sex part. 594 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 I had those sex with Michael Jackson. 595 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000 What's the point? 596 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000 But here's what was weird. 597 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,000 So this was at MJJ Studios in Los Angeles. 598 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,000 It's not in some weird back-ass road to. 599 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Beautiful studios, right? 600 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000 So you walk in there. 601 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000 And what was weird was immediately. 602 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,000 I saw that they were at least 10 kids running around. 603 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 And how he Mandel was there. 604 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Which is. 605 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Which is weird. 606 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 I mean, well, thank you. 607 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000 I don't know. 608 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,000 It's like, you know, maybe. 609 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Was he pulling a glove over his head? 610 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Well, no. 611 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Maybe the how he Mandel was supposed to like keep the kids busy with it. 612 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 And with his body's world voices or something. 613 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Yeah. 614 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000 You're doing a lot of the body's voice. 615 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000 It was scary. 616 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000 It was scary. 617 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 You know, adults in Michael's life. 618 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,000 At that point, we didn't know about any of the allegations. 619 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Yeah. 620 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000 And I still don't know if it's true. 621 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,000 I mean, I have to say a lot of the evidence or what is being called evidence points that way. 622 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000 But that's hard. 623 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000 I have no idea. 624 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Did they just read his house again? 625 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Yeah. 626 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,000 He's fucked. 627 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000 Yeah. 628 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,000 He really is fucked. 629 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,000 He's fucked. 630 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000 And you know that Tommy Matolle, you know, Tommy Matolle is right? 631 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,000 No. 632 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000 Tommy Matolle. 633 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Tommy Matolle. 634 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000 He runs Sony Records. 635 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Oh, OK. 636 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000 And he was married to Mariah Carey. 637 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Right? 638 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000 There's a whole story all by itself. 639 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Tommy Matolle hates or at least when I was in New York and in the scene hated Michael Jackson. 640 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:43,000 And Michael Jackson is so insecure and so childish really. 641 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:48,000 That all these promotions to do when this was the bad album. 642 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Literally, of course. 643 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000 This was the bad album. 644 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,000 And so the head Michael in the in the limo and they're going from, you know, from station to promotion or whatever. 645 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,000 And Michael kept saying, I really have to go to the bathroom. 646 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,000 And Tommy Matolle would not let him fucking pee. 647 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,000 It's so awesome. 648 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000 On purpose. 649 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000 On purpose. 650 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Not to can't do it. 651 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Can't go pee here and not. 652 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000 We've not let him take a piss. 653 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 He hated him so much. 654 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Just be in this cup. 655 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Really? 656 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,000 I don't know what happened. 657 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,000 I think he held it until he was back in the hotel. 658 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000 But that was horrible. 659 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,000 No, Michael Jackson. 660 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Very sad case. 661 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,000 I think. 662 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Very sad. 663 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Could let's be honest. 664 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Boy can sing. 665 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Boy can dance. 666 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Very, very musical. 667 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Very musical. 668 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000 But he has turned into a zombie. 669 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,000 More people than me have said that. 670 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,000 But yeah. 671 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,000 I don't know if that's just what you see. 672 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 This is the thing. 673 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 This podcast is real honest. 674 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000 And there's nothing. 675 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000 People can tell who we are and they're hearing us. 676 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,000 And there's nothing in between this microphone and everyone else's ears. 677 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000 But you don't know what you're getting from Michael Jackson. 678 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,000 What's real or what's not real? 679 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:56,000 A two second sound bite on TV. 680 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 But you can tell that he's a zombie from the two seconds. 681 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 I mean, you know, he's the one. 682 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 I want to say yes. 683 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000 I want to say yes. 684 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,000 But I have a feeling that some of that is also accentuated by the way it's edited. 685 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000 I don't know. 686 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Even the stuff that he edits him, that he's, you know, he's in control of editing. 687 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000 You think that he's not. 688 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000 I don't know. 689 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000 I don't know. 690 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000 He's a zombie on the stuff that he had that he had control of. 691 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000 I thought it was actually pretty good the stuff that he had. 692 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000 Yeah, I guess so. 693 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 But you see that he's trying to control it. 694 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000 That's what was irritating about that. 695 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Even that documentary that he made. 696 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Did you see that? 697 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,000 No, no. 698 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000 What was the documentary? 699 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Well, there was two documentaries that the everything came to 700 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,000 ahead with this English guy who did a documentary. 701 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000 That was like a tell all experts. 702 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,000 Yes. 703 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,000 But at the same time, he Michael Jackson has own cameras rolling and you saw 704 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,000 the other side, which totally exposed the English documentary to be set up, 705 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000 kind of, you know, edited to make him look funky. 706 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,000 But what at the same time gave away is how controlling he was trying to be over 707 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,000 his own destiny and the way he was having his stuff edited. 708 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000 Wow. 709 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000 So with Michael's view and sensationalist view. 710 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Yeah. 711 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,000 Yeah. 712 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000 Yeah. 713 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Okay. 714 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,000 So I didn't have sex with Michael Jackson. 715 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,000 We've established that. 716 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,000 I've actually not had sex with any famous people accept my wife. 717 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000 I've come close. 718 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000 So what was the closest you got to star-fucking? 719 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Mandy Smith. 720 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,000 You remember her? 721 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000 I vaguely remember Mandy Smith. 722 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Mandy Smith was the Lolita 16 year old that Bill Wyman married. 723 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,000 Mm-hmm. 724 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Then Bill, the Rolling Stones. 725 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Mm-hmm. 726 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,000 And it was a big to do because he essentially had sex with her when she was like 727 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000 14. 728 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000 But they got married when she was 16. 729 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 And then she had a song a record out. 730 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Mm-hmm. 731 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,000 And she came to the Netherlands to promote that. 732 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000 Well, I was doing TV and she was totally coming on to me. 733 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Totally. 734 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Totally. 735 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Totally. 736 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Now at the time being, I had a client-designed relationship with Patricia. 737 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 It was very famous in Europe. 738 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Mm-hmm. 739 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,000 And she was married. 740 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,000 So we came up with this great plan. 741 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Because she's really nice. 742 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 And Mandy Smith, the time very sweet girl. 743 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000 So you had a chance to be the star-fucking two women at the same? 744 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000 No, no, no, no, no, no. 745 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Not at the same time, but during the same time period. 746 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Yes, but it was different. 747 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Because Mandy and I had real no real interest in each other. 748 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 But we had the same problem. 749 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,000 She was being stalked by paparazzi, et cetera. 750 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Because she had this relationship with Bill Lyman, 751 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,000 which wasn't really known at the time. 752 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000 But she was going out with Bill. 753 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 She wasn't married to him yet. 754 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000 It was like six months later. 755 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,000 And I had this whole thing with Patricia, which was supposed to be not known. 756 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,000 So what did we do? 757 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000 I invited her come over to Amsterdam and we went out together. 758 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000 And then everyone was talking about us. 759 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 It was the verdict. 760 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000 And then of course there was this point where we said, well, we just have sex. 761 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 This is where we're faking it anyway. 762 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000 It's like man, never mind. 763 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000 Oh, no. 764 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Because now she loved Bill when I love Patricia. 765 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000 It was like, but that was about the closest. 766 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000 So do you think that that means that like the Tom Cruise Penelope, 767 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Cruise thing deaf? 768 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Tom is totally gay. 769 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Come on, the gay. 770 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Who is it? 771 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,000 We're totally not having sex at all. 772 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000 I have no idea. 773 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000 You can be gay and have sex with women. 774 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,000 Oh, sure, sure. 775 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 But I mean, your story kind of is shattering. 776 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,000 My illusions about the fact that, you know, he's probably, because I was sort of enjoying 777 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,000 imagining Tom Cruise, you know, having to force himself to have sex with him. 778 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,000 To have sex with him. 779 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000 Just to have his punishment for him for staying in the closet. 780 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 You know, it's like, you will be forced. 781 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,000 I gotta tell you though, that must be so hard to live your life like that. 782 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 Yeah, I can't even imagine. 783 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Because George Michael is just come out, right? 784 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Really, this is... 785 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,000 He's now going and he's doing a tour for promotional tour for his new album. 786 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,000 Yeah. 787 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000 And he's been on the BBC several times. 788 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000 You know, just going through this whole thing. 789 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000 And he said at one point, he said, I have to do the English accent. 790 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Otherwise, doesn't work. 791 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Oh, my God. 792 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000 I couldn't believe it. 793 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,000 It was like, here I was. 794 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000 I was the number one pop star on the world. 795 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000 And I was a fucking poof. 796 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000 And he was freaked out about it. 797 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000 You know, because he was mainly huge in America. 798 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 And he was like, he was really freaked. 799 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 And he couldn't let he couldn't be himself. 800 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:04,000 And I remember, I couldn't even get an interview with him. 801 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,000 He was so freaked out about life and everything in general. 802 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 He couldn't deal with it. 803 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000 He still can't deal with being famous, really. 804 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,000 He just wants to be a writer and a singer and a producer and all that. 805 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000 And a poof. 806 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,000 And a poof. 807 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000 And he's a major poof. 808 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,000 And he's very good at it. 809 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,000 But I think... 810 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 But more importantly, Rob Helfer came out. 811 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 I mean, that's like way more important. 812 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,000 But that was such a... 813 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,000 For some reason, and for those of you don't know, Rob Helfer 814 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000 to Judas Priest, he came out several years ago. 815 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000 And he had like a new band, a new new, like... 816 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Like almost as well. 817 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Like almost as well, man. 818 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000 But no one really cared. 819 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Did he lose... 820 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,000 I mean... 821 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Really? 822 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Did you... 823 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Did you lose interest in the band? 824 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000 I was happy. 825 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000 But I had always admired them. 826 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,000 As a youth, my first concert with... 827 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Was you depressed for real? 828 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Yeah, for real. 829 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000 It was so cool. 830 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000 And I learned the whole thing about, like, holding it 831 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000 if you're lighter to light. 832 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Like that. 833 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Yeah. 834 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000 That was my first experience. 835 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Excellent. 836 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000 And I was like, oh, and all that time, he was a homo. 837 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000 That's so awesome. 838 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000 We didn't know. 839 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,000 We didn't know. 840 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000 We didn't know. 841 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 We didn't know. 842 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Boys, you can be a tough metalhead and be queen. 843 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000 And actually, if you play the records backwards, 844 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000 it does say... 845 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000 Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. 846 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000 At all the time. 847 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000 No. 848 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000 It wasn't saying worship Satan. 849 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000 It was saying... 850 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000 You know, the bitties actually have a piece of back masking. 851 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000 I found that I was listening to the album. 852 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000 It was true, they really do. 853 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000 That what I haven't played it backwards yet. 854 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,000 But you don't really. 855 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000 No, but they have a piece that's backwards on the album. 856 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,000 I'm going to check it out. 857 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000 There's a back masking piece. 858 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 It probably is just literally a piece backwards. 859 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000 That is probably nothing more than that. 860 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,000 But you're right. 861 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,000 That's it. 862 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000 So anyway, so yeah, Tom Cruise. 863 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000 Yeah, Tom Cruise. 864 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,000 Tom Cruise. 865 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000 How'd we get on the whole homo thing? 866 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000 I don't remember. 867 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000 It was... 868 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Something about sex. 869 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000 And it was you not having sex. 870 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Right, not having sex. 871 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,000 That person who is your beard, even though it was a heterosexual beard. 872 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000 There was a heterosexual beard. 873 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Oh my god. 874 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,000 And it's fun because all those years at MTV, 875 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000 you'd think... 876 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Because we were very separate from the offices. 877 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Officers were at 175 Broadway before that 1775. 878 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,000 And we were down. 879 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:23,000 We actually had the studio right next door to the Sally Jesse Raphael Show. 880 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000 So in the morning, I would tape my segments. 881 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000 And then during lunch, I'd have to stay in my dressing room 882 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000 because all these degenerates, you know, like, 883 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000 midgets having sex with, you know, 884 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,000 you know, whatever. 885 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,000 It's all kinds of stuff. 886 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,000 It's just having sex with their mothers. 887 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,000 Yeah, right. 888 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,000 We're walking down the hallway. 889 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000 And it was... 890 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000 It was... 891 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,000 It was a traffic report. 892 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000 Yeah. 893 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,000 That was a traffic report from the BBC. 894 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000 But never. 895 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,000 Never. 896 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,000 Did I see... 897 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,000 See, or was I offered anything other than maybe a token 898 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,000 to join? 899 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Never saw any coke. 900 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000 No, I've never even done cocaine. 901 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000 No. 902 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Nothing. 903 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000 All that rock and roll, you know, 904 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000 stuff that may have oozed from MTV screen. 905 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Not true. 906 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000 It was horrible. 907 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000 It really was just getting high and not having sex. 908 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000 No, but they were... 909 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Well, just... 910 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,000 No. 911 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,000 People weren't even really smoking pot. 912 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000 It was me and Rick, the audio guy. 913 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,000 You were... 914 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,000 We were the pot fans. 915 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Yeah. 916 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000 No, the camera guys were not... 917 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,000 No. 918 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,000 No. 919 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,000 No. 920 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,000 Rick. 921 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,000 Rick's my boy. 922 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,000 He'll always be my boy. 923 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,000 It was so good. 924 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000 We would share my dressing room and these audio booths. 925 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 So, you know, whenever he had to take a dump, 926 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,000 he'd literally come to my dressing room and sit there and read my fan mail. 927 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000 Well, I was doing the audio. 928 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,000 And we wouldn't tell anyone. 929 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000 That's a good... 930 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 That's a good way to, you know, hang out. 931 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Well, I also learned a lot about audio. 932 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Like, through the bathroom door, like he'd be taking a dump. 933 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,000 And he'd be like, dude. 934 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000 No, no, because no, because I'd watch him. 935 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000 How we would do the audio stuff. 936 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,000 Yeah. 937 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000 He'd say, oh man, it's time for my dump. 938 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Okay, Rick. 939 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Well, you know, he had these bags. 940 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 A number of postcards before email. 941 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Just get postcards and naked pictures. 942 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000 So, I had huge postal bags full. 943 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,000 And, you know, just... 944 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000 Whenever he had time, he opened like 20 of them. 945 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 He had no time to open all of them and read it. 946 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000 And so, Rick went to help me scan the mail while he was using my bathroom. 947 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000 And that'd be tracking... 948 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,000 I'd be opening the mics and starting the tapes and everything in the audio booth. 949 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,000 And the directors didn't know about it. 950 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000 They'd just say, you know, alright, track 97A. 951 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000 And I just opened up the track and I would start up the music. 952 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000 And then sometimes I'd fuck up and be like, Rick, are you high again? 953 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,000 And I'm like, mmmm. 954 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,000 They didn't know it was me running the audio board. 955 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000 And the good old days of this scene. 956 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,000 The good old day. 957 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000 Dude, we've been at it for 31 minutes. 958 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,000 I think we should stop. 959 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,000 So I can put in 10 minutes of opening and closing things. 960 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Yeah. 961 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000 I think that's a good idea. 962 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,000 And I think that's a good idea. 963 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,000 And I think that's a good idea. 964 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000 And I think that's a good idea. 965 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000 What I would love is if you... 966 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,000 You should do your own podcast. 967 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,000 You're perfect. 968 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,000 I know. 969 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000 If you want to see my work, you can go to my website. 970 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,000 Yeah. 971 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,000 Textploitation.com. 972 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000 Textploitation. 973 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,000 Textploitation. 974 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,000 T-E-C-H-S. 975 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000 And then theploitation part. 976 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,000 You can work as well. 977 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000 But it's not, you know, with an X. 978 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,000 So, yeah, I mean, I don't know about doing the podcasting thing. 979 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000 I'll think about it. 980 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000 I like being on your podcast. 981 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Well, you can be on my podcast anytime you want. 982 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000 You got Skype? 983 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000 I have Skype, yeah. 984 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000 We can try getting that working for 20 minutes on my next podcast. 985 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000 See what crap we can go through. 986 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:23,000 I really appreciate you taking the time to come down and talk about, you know, whatever. 987 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000 Yeah. 988 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000 It was worth the jet lag. 989 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Yeah, I was going to say, could you? 990 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,000 What did you get in yesterday? 991 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Got in yesterday. 992 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,000 So that was my jet lag day. 993 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000 Because I saw you with, I saw one yon. 994 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000 That was... 995 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,000 I'm totally recovered. 996 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000 I forced myself to stay awake all day. 997 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Right. 998 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,000 So that I would be totally set. 999 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000 So that way I can go tomorrow back to the day. 1000 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,000 You're going back tomorrow? 1001 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,000 Yeah. 1002 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Okay. 1003 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,000 So the budget's not that big. 1004 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,000 It wired. 1005 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000 You don't get anything else in London? 1006 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,000 No, no. 1007 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,000 I could have stayed if I wanted to. 1008 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,000 But I need to get back. 1009 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000 Because, you know, my sweetie's having a performance on Saturday night. 1010 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Really? 1011 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,000 I want to be there and, you know, support her and, you know, 1012 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,000 What does she solo or play in a band? 1013 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000 So she runs a show called Writers With Drinks in San Francisco, 1014 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000 which is a spoken word variety show. 1015 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000 And she's the NFC and there's going to be a lot of great writers. 1016 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000 Tim Stanley Robinson is going to... 1017 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Hello, podcast. 1018 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,000 I know. 1019 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,000 Okay. 1020 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Saturday night. 1021 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000 Okay. 1022 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000 At the makeout room in San Francisco. 1023 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000 730. 1024 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Tim Stanley Robinson, an awesome science fiction writer. 1025 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,000 He's going to read. 1026 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,000 There's going to be a bunch of other awesome readers. 1027 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000 And come on. 1028 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000 It's like three bucks to get in. 1029 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,000 Can we... 1030 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000 I mean, this is the kind of stuff. 1031 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000 We put a link to it on your brain. 1032 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,000 We should record this. 1033 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Oh, yeah. 1034 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000 We should record it. 1035 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,000 Fuck. 1036 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000 This is your podcast. 1037 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Yeah. 1038 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000 Here's your drinks. 1039 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000 No, seriously. 1040 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Yeah, totally. 1041 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Love that shit. 1042 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000 That would be great. 1043 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000 I mean... 1044 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000 I'm going to tell Charlie. 1045 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000 I don't know what the, you know, 1046 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,000 how would, you know, what people think about them being recorded and being podcast, 1047 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000 but shit. 1048 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000 What a tremendous opportunity to get this stuff out. 1049 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,000 Yeah, really. 1050 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,000 It's really good. 1051 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,000 We've had a lot of fun with this. 1052 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000 I love spoken word type stuff. 1053 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,000 You too. 1054 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Have you heard the spoken word revolution? 1055 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,000 It's an audio book. 1056 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,000 I'll send you a link. 1057 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,000 Cool. 1058 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,000 I can't. 1059 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,000 I can't. 1060 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000 I can't. 1061 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000 So I could digital restriction management. 1062 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,000 Exactly. 1063 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000 Now, but that's the kind of stuff that we need more of. 1064 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,000 Yeah, we do. 1065 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,000 I mean, the thing with podcasting is it's just in its infancy. 1066 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,000 So I'm looking forward to seeing a lot more stuff like that. 1067 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000 Like independent artists doing spoken word. 1068 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,000 You know, people bringing you news from underground communities that you don't normally hear from. 1069 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000 And that's what I think is really great. 1070 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,000 And people broadcasting from their cars. 1071 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000 Hey, man. 1072 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,000 And look at this gear. 1073 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,000 I should take a picture of this. 1074 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000 I don't have a Pimp in mind. 1075 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000 My car is pimp. 1076 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000 I don't need anyone to pimp it anymore. 1077 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000 He's got a studio in here. 1078 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,000 Yeah, it's pretty great. 1079 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000 And the BBC in constant traffic updates. 1080 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000 All right. 1081 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000 So you need me to take you back to the station? 1082 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Yeah. 1083 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Yeah, that'd be great. 1084 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Okay. 1085 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,000 I know what we'll do. 1086 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Of course I can. 1087 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,000 You just bear with me because you know, I'm still learning this left hand. 1088 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,000 Side of the road. 1089 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000 You've got the new Pimp and ride has to have the steering wheel on the right hand side. 1090 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,000 I think. 1091 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000 After the leases. 1092 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000 Oh. 1093 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,000 You don't do this by yourself. 1094 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,000 No. 1095 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,000 Do not do this at home, kid. 1096 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000 Do not mod your car. 1097 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,000 All right. 1098 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,000 It could result in severe penalties somewhere down the line. 1099 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,000 Yeah. 1100 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,000 I think it's in the Ula. 1101 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000 All right, Emily. 1102 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000 Thank you very much for hanging out. 1103 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,000 Thanks very much. 1104 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,000 Come on back to source code anytime you can. 1105 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,000 Thank you.