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Hey everybody!

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No, like, hey everybody!

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Hey everybody!

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Hey everybody, indeed!

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Welcome to the Daily Source Code for Tuesday, December 14, 2004, coming to you from Curricanage

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in the United Kingdom of the Great British Isle.

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It's your source code, let's party.

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It's our source code.

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It is intellect.

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Some are beginning the question of this.

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Is it the power of pure intellect or something completely unrelated?

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Alrighty, it is coming up on the evening hours here and once again it's been quite a day of

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excitement here in Good Old Guildford, UK.

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I've had my trip to Starbucks to upload and download and transfer all kinds of

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bits and bytes.

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And I've got promos and pod-said music.

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And a lot to talk about for users and developers as there's lots of stuff going on in the iPod

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world.

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It's about before.

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I continue.

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I want to play the entire promo that I started to show off with because it was so incredibly

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cute.

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Listen to that one more time.

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Hey everybody!

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No, like, hey everybody!

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Hey everybody!

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Alright, anyways, my next generation podcaster, my son Zika, learning how to do the

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ever pod at.

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Anyways, it's Earl from iampodcasting.com and just want to let you know the podcasts working

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now.

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So, stop on by, check it out and where we talk about how to market your podcasts and how

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to make some dough with your podcasts.

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We're just still in a need here.

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Take care and we'll talk to you later.

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Alright, Josh, since Zika to do the intro, you get to do the outro.

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Let's hear your best boyly-ly-ly-ly.

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Microphone that is we see does actually have a type rating on it somewhere. It says

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That's stupid

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And I spent all this money on getting the hyped up. Oh, here it is. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I have p799

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It's the memory one gigabyte FCC ID

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QDmi fp799

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Battery 1.5 alkaline double a size times one a symbol in China

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Okay, so I got this because what I liked about the specs. Well, first of all

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Whatever jacks, you know the regular headphone and lining or mic jack. Here's what I like about it

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First of all, I river it's like you know, I thought it was going to be like a really big

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Independent kind of vibe of heard a lot of people about about the company and that they've got some good stuff going on

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Wasn't too hard to learn basically it's got a file system and you route around the file system has a very rudimentary way of setting up a playlist

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Other features which very much like you know, I told you this that has to be one chip said that it's just come out that everyone's

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Kilbitz at a 44.1 case sample and that's really what interested me in it

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No, in fact you have to use their manager

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Wait a minute. Let me see if I can bring that up. It's called the

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I River music manager

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Boeing bad Boeing because you know, I'm not like I'm managing podcasts here not music

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I was extremely impressed how well it functioned how well it could pick up a conversation

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Because it's kind of most just made a plastic it you know you have to be careful shifting your fingers around if you're kind of holding it as a mic

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Beton that you could you like slip it into and then you know just use it as a microphone because I tried it out Sunday night with with Patricia here at

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She likes cooking and she enjoys it and now that we have a kitchen that I can kind of fit into and has more workspace

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Following along I'm the sous chef du cotage. I am learning very much and here's and we've always talked about doing a podcast

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We're Patricia would actually cook so this is not it, okay?

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Wait a minute what's the model the IFP-799 MP3 recorded this is recorded 64

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Another test this is without the automatic gain control okay

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Pointy Cabbage pointy habit point

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Well, there's a cabbage with a big point and we have sweet potatoes

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Said like yes, which we gonna yeah, which we're gonna prepare with

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Check out the Madonna accent on Patricia there

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Give the girl one glass of wine and she's the material girl butter cinnamon cinnamon sugar a little bit of nutmeg pepper and salt

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Whatever you prefer and then you can mesh mesh it and

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I think it's a lovely combination with my pointy cabbage. Yeah, how are you preparing your pointy cabbage?

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Also a little bit of nutmeg a little bit of a flower and a little bit of milk and

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Piece of butter just really little piece of butter and some some pepper some black pepper

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And we have some meat today the meat is a turkey thigh coming out of the oven

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From Saintsbury that from Saintsbury nicely. It was two for one, but I forgot to buy to get the other one

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I saw that oh my saw

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Buy by one get one free and you want one, but you forgot your free one and I forgot my free one

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Oh, yes, we can't put yeah, nicer combinations and I think so and we

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I've prepared it right now and he saw that and what the important thing is you go while you are cooking

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Yes, have a nice

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Glass of symphony out white symphony though. This is why it's it's pinky

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We call it whites in from the I get ripped off

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It's a car

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It's oh, what do you think it's official colored? Yeah, it's not official. No, it's not

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But um, make sure you have something to drink normally we don't drink, but it's always nice on a Sunday

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And we thought why not it's called outside have a nice glass while you pretend dinner so

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The hell was that I was me turning it up oops, sorry about that

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So in all

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Considering that was just the built-in microphone, which sounds

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Reasonably shitty. I tried one test with the automatic gain control on and it was all over the place like a

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Big compressor, you know bringing up all the silent noises and you can set this thing

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Basically that you can use it as a spy recorder and put it somewhere and

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It can be voice activated or sound activated and it can record at this high quality of this quality that you just heard it can do 36 hours

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You know, so it's it's perfect in a pinch just to carry around you know if you if you want to record something and you need to be able to

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To get it at a good quality and know that it's gonna work. It'll be great and even better if you plug a real microphone into it

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So but in a pinch it's it's perfect and I'll be using it some more

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Also, you can just plug it into any any line out and you can record a really you know a decent decent sound

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As an MP3 player itself, it's interesting because you know the interface you you really just looking around in this root file system in fact

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It even says root and

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I river media manager

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how man's this

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lame they have it for windows and for

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I don't want to mess with it right now. I'm opening up but basically what you have there is

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A window and in that window it represents the same file system tree that you can kind of see in the device itself

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Drag and drop folders and or files right in there and that's kind of cool because you know you drag it in

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The downer as I said earlier is that it doesn't function like a USB drive

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That's the way it should be it's just mounts a drive and drop it right in

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So you have to go through this thing and I was like why the hell do I have to go through there particular window?

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Which you know I haven't seen the API for it or any other information

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It looks like that might be quite a barrier to entry and

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Well even worse so because there are a couple of songs on it which were MP3s and one of them actually was really cute

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It was like the I river song hold on let me just start this sucker up hold on a second

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Yeah, there it is

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Just go back

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It's called I river

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Catch

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Hold on catch the digital

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Flow foul

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Catch the digital

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Flow

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So I thought that'll be cool. I'll play that on on the source code very everybody

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Everybody

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So I dragged it out of that little super duper window onto my desktop and it went bloom

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Actually, I took a screenshot of it to include

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Today with the hell that I put it oh man, don't tell me I lost that what happened to it

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Hold on I'll do it again. Oh, no, I can't

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Anyway, it basically I will find that that picture weight that I trash it by accident hold on

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How can that be I wouldn't have thrown that out that was too fucking good?

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I'm bear with me folks. Let me just scan everything. It looks like it's definitely not here. Okay

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Anyway, so it said cannot copy this because of digital rights management not allowed to copy like I would just want to play the song

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And what I don't have is I don't have a wire that will connect

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From the out well wait a minute. Do I have that? Do I have a wire that well? Oh, maybe I do hold on a second

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What an excellent idea. We're gonna root around the

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Hold on. I know how to do this wait let me in my bag. Oh

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This is good. This is good. Okay, so I'm gonna rout around their digital

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What am I looking for I'm looking for my

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cables

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Oh, she just love this

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Okay, here it is. What's our time right now? How are we doing 14 minutes good? Okay. Yes, I do have one

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I have a cable. So this is basically I'm gonna take this three and a half inch jack which is a part of my

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This is a part of my

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Wireless mic set on plug that into the power book here into the mic in all right. This is gonna be cool

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Now take the

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headphone jack out right

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Now I just have to figure out

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Let's see so

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Let's get

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Line in here. Oh, this is gonna be awesome. Oh, we're stealing from the man

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Check it out everybody

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Okay, we're gonna send it out to 16 perfect built in

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Audio from line in oh, man. This is gonna rock if this works

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Okay, hold on

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Here it is. Let's see

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Okay, oh hold on of course

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Everybody rock out down

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Hey kids was that totally worth it or what

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There's more on here too

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So anyway, so that that totally sucked and then

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That was actually recording an MP3 and what it does is it records in its own funky format and doesn't actually

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Compress it into MP3 until you transfer what it will you drag and drop it out of this funky

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I River MIDI music manager

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Onto your desktop then it says do you want to make this an MP3? Would you like to leave it in this unrecognizable format?

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So of course you choose MP3 so

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Mixed feelings about this very mixed feelings like it a lot

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I thought that you know these guys wanted to be different and all it seems that they're doing in the

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Differentiation game is you know different digital rights management, but I'll play with it some more

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Sennheiser when I find out where that is then we'll have a second, you know Mike that's plugged right in and

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Quick-time players with MP3s anyone who knew with that just meant please write it down as we can

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Through Howard Reenstein and he was he was so kind now is to

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It's Greenstein g r e n s t e i n which of course. I'm sure I've said was Howard Reenstein or

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Well, I'll read you this email which is a part of the production show notes for today's source code out of my favorite rock star and sister

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Barry corals about your release her second record

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Our next record and would love you to premiere track on the daily source code next week

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It's Barry's best for see record yet called confessions of an indie girl and it's officially available star

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December 12th at www dot Barry corals dot com b a r i k o r a l

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And the last time she was actually she toured in Europe for

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Little promotional tour and I was doing the big radio show at the time and she came on the show and a perform live

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Present to you aspiring angel by Barry corals

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On safe and nutritious and good for you, Barry Coral, the planetary premiere on the Daily

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Source Code, aspiring angel more information about that in the production show notes for today's

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Today is Tuesday, December 14, 2004.

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And briefly just today we went to look for Stables for Christina's horse or herpony, Princess

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Arletta, who has been living back at the trainer's house, Luke's house for the past

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a couple of weeks.

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Christina was really antsy, of course she wants to see her baby.

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So we've been looking around for Stables in the Guilford area.

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This would be a major hint, anyone listening if you have any good ideas, something

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close by, it'd be very nice.

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it doesn't starve and then we can show up four or five times a week and ride and have fun.

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But no, seriously, so we're shopping around, you know, it's a lot of horse-horse-suffices

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here.

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Can you tell that I'm not really a horse guy, but I really love my daughter who loves

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her horse.

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I do love her horse too, so we'll figure that out.

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Something else that we've been dealing with in the past couple of weeks, noticed a growing

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number of complaints about the accessibility of the daily source code MP3 files.

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amount of subscribers to the show and we're seeing bits and pieces of the internet start

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to creek and to crack.

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going to happen to other people very soon if it's not happening already.

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downloads of the show fail.

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And Dave and I have been tracking this for quite a while.

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We basically, in November, at BloggerCon, I did before BloggerCon, we bought servers,

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as you probably remember, I was talking about that.

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And we got one or two servers with unmetered bandwidth.

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Now, it's a limited pipe, it's, you know, I believe it's 20 or 30 megabits.

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But in essence, you can pump only so much through it so that the 30 megabit pipe, but

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you can do that all day long without any penalty.

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And we have a couple of shows running on that server.

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The big ones, of course, would be source code, dawn and drew morning coffee notes and

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trade secrets.

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What we're seeing is these downloads fail and there's a whole bunch of different thoughts

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and ideas and really after doing a test today and before this show went up, I actually

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pinged the list that, of course, I'll point to in the production show notes, the list

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that the Dave set up, the little comment list there, where people could check to see

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how it was coming in from there different locations.

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We're seeing that most browser transfers are going quite well.

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Some of the iPodter clients, sometimes they'll break, sometimes they'll stop, then it'll

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be, and it's really it's unreplicable.

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You can't really figure out what the problem is.

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I'm pretty sure it's not going to be the iPodter clients because, you know, that's just

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and everyone's making an HTTP call, so it's somewhere along the line, it's failing.

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I don't know a lot about networking in bandwidth, this is also not Dave's area of expertise,

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but we have gotten a number of very good comments and good information.

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The basically says, okay, well, the problem is you're sitting on a tier three provider

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and, you know, the bandwidth that you've purchased is basically crap or not, you know,

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there's no service level agreement, perhaps, or, you know, there's a whole bunch of

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different issues that have to be looked at.

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That's part of the problem.

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You know, also, we're just, we're growing, you know, this stuff is getting so big,

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that it's going to come down to, well, a couple of different ways to solve it, eventually,

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I think there's just not going to be any other way, but to go with, you know, 100% bit

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torrent integration and everyone has to be able to support it and it has to work.

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And I think I'm going to start using bit torn pretty soon because no matter how many

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providers we get, you know, eventually, I think, when to get up to this point where it's

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just going to start breaking because there's too many iPod or clients and people who are interested

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in subscribe to the show, trying to get these MP3 files simultaneously, so spreading it out

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in a P to P fashion makes a lot of sense to me.

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Something that the, that the iPod of developers could do, it would certainly help me and

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and don and drew, and I'm sure more to come as the bandwidth crunch gets worse.

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basically a loop that you, that you could put into the program.

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If the download fails, it would be great if the iPod or client could not say, you know,

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skip it or put in the cash is not there or gone or whatever, but maybe you could go back

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in half an hour or 45 minutes and try it again or just some random time.

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And also, I, and I saw iPod or X do this, it sets up random times of grabbing the

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file for, you know, your iPod or goes out, not at the top of the hour, but at a random

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time that it's set, excuse me.

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So all that stuff is really going to help, and yeah, that would be the number one, the number

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one cool thing that we could do with our iPod or clients is to have some kind of

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resumable functionality.

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And I think that let me see Doppler had it in there.

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I'm looking at the comments here that, of course, are in the, in the show notes.

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Let's see this is from Erwin from Doppler Radio.net.

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Welcome early and flanders this day, download your lady, latest daily source code, heard

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you talk about download problems with a daily source code.

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I'm happy to tell you that Doppler 2.0, which I will release into the wild, is, supports

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resuming downloads, also known as byte-ranging.

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There you go, which helped me a lot to overcome the download stalling problems as you described

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in your podcast.

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Okay, thank you very much, Erwin.

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That would be great if we could get the other iPod or developers to do that.

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Because this is something that's, if it's happening to me, it's, you know, and of course,

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I'm going to work on finding new bandwidth solutions, and it seems only logical that

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we're going to run into, you know, bandwidth providers who are going to have some great ideas.

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But in the meantime, it would be great if we can definitely help each other by, you know,

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working around some of the, the nuttiness of the internet, if stuff breaks, that we can go

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back in kind of unbreak it, or at least try to still deliver on the promise.

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I'm also, hold on one second, and I just, sometimes I got to hijack the signal again,

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because I delay set signal.

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That's when you basically hear me talk like I'm drunk, that's when the delay sets it on

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my headphones.

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I got to figure out why it's doing that.

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That's not right.

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It also is going to say, um, but we had that about, oh shit, I don't know.

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You know what?

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You know what I need right now?

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You know what I really need?

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Put your hands on your iPod or your MP3 player at this moment, my brothers and sisters,

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and feel more cowbell.

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After a series of staggering defeats, Blue Oyster called assembled in the recording studio

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in late 1976 for a session with fame producer Bruce Dickinson, luckily for us, the cameras

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were rolling.

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Alright guys, I think we're ready to lay this first track down.

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By the way, my name is Bruce Dickinson, yes, the Bruce Dickinson, and I got to tell you

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if fellas, you have got what appears to be a dynamite sound.

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Coming from your Bruce, that means a lot.

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Yeah, I mean, you Bruce Dickinson, this is incredible.

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I can't believe Bruce Dickson digs our sound.

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These guys, I put my pants on just like the rest of you, one leg at a time.

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Except once my pants are on, I make gold records.

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Alright, here we go.

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If you don't feel the reaper, take one roll, one, two, three, four.

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Wait, wait.

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First, could you come in every second, please?

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That camera's going to be a great track, guys.

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What's the deal?

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Are you sure that was sounding okay?

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I'll be honest, fellas, it was sounding great, but I couldn't use the little more cowbell.

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So, let's take it again, and Jean, really explore the studio space this time.

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You got a Bruce?

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Explore the space.

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Okay.

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I like what I'm hearing.

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You're all there.

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One, two, three, four.

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Stop, Bruce, I'm sorry, could you come back in every second?

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Fellas.

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No.

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We just wasted two good tracks.

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This last one was even better than the first, but it's just that I find Jean's cowbell playing

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distract.

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I don't know.

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If I'm the only one I'll shut up.

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No, it's pretty rough.

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You know, I can pull it back a little if you like.

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Not too much, though.

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I'm telling you, Fellas, you're going to want that cowbell.

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I'm gonna drag.

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You know what?

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It's fine.

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Let's just do the thing.

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Roll it.

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One, two, three, four.

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Come on, Jean, don't do that.

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No.

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That, that, it doesn't work for me.

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I gotta have more cowbell.

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Don't blow this forest, Jean.

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Could be, could be itself a scene.

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Can I just say one thing?

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There, baby.

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Just say it.

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I'm stare at here, stare at rock legend, Bruce Dickinson.

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A cock and a walk, baby.

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And Bruce Dickinson wants more cowbell.

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We should probably give him more cowbell.

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Hey, baby.

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And Bobby, you are right.

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Ambex selfish.

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But the last time I checked, we don't have a whole lot of songs

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that feature the cowbell.

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I gotta have more cowbell, baby.

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I'm gonna be doing myself with the service.

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And every member of this band, if I did perform the hell out of this.

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Guess what?

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I got a fever.

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And the only prescription is more cowbell.

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Thank you, Bruce.

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I think if I just leave and maybe I'll come back later,

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and we can lay down the cowbell on, baby.

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Jean, wait.

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Why don't you lay down that cowbell right now with us together.

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Do you mean that, Eric?

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Yes.

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Thanks for all of us.

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Thank you.

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Baby, before we're done here,

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y'all be wearing gold-pitted diapers.

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What does that mean?

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Never question Bruce Dickinson.

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Go.

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One, two, three, four.

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One, two, three, four.

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Yeah, everybody.

455
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,200
Class, et cetera.

456
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,200
All right, mine.

457
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Lou, it's the call.

458
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,200
And of course, Christopher Walken, need more cowbell.

459
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,200
And it also, so typifies the big,

460
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,200
with Dave calls the monoculture of entertainment.

461
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,200
We have the producer of Walken, the legendary Bruce Dickinson,

462
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,200
who I only know is,

463
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,200
Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden, I guess.

464
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,200
And needs more cowbell.

465
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,200
Need more goddamn cowbell, otherwise it'll never be a hit, gentlemen.

466
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,200
Need more cowbell.

467
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,200
Love the cowbell.

468
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:56,200
I wrote this down with a link to a post here.

469
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,200
Okay.

470
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,200
We were talking about the yesterday, actually, after I posted the source code,

471
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,200
I was saying, you know, in the source code itself,

472
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,200
I talked about the opml files and how we're going to link that together.

473
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,200
And all of a sudden it hit me, or at least the part of it hit me after,

474
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,200
you know, after we were talking about it,

475
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,200
and I was listening back to the show,

476
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,200
I kind of sample through it and listen to different bits,

477
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,200
listen to the sound levels.

478
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,200
And it hit me like, wouldn't it be cool?

479
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,200
So here, so let's presume that from the directory.

480
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200
And when I say the directory, I kind of mean it like a big virtual thing.

481
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,200
Yeah, it's the directory that's at the ipod.org site,

482
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,200
if you go to podcast directory or podcast directory.

483
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,200
You'll see the directory and I filled up a couple more.

484
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,200
I have a backlog about 150 new podcasts that have to go in,

485
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,200
just from this past week and a half alone.

486
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,200
So working on that.

487
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,200
And if it takes too long, ping me again,

488
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,200
let me know there is a suggestion link, please.

489
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,200
But there's lots of stuff still flowing in there

490
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,200
through all of the multiple nodes that I'm not maintaining at all.

491
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,200
But it's also the same directory that you see in the ipod or x ipod or client,

492
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,200
in the ipod or 11 client, in jpod or in most of the ipodters,

493
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,200
because it's a format that programmers, developers can use,

494
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,200
and kind of, you know, it's a consistent format,

495
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,200
so they can pull stuff in and use that,

496
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,200
and it makes it easy for you to subscribe.

497
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,200
They can glean new data from that.

498
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,200
The ipod or x top picks and most subscribe to databases,

499
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,200
a combination of their information and our data.

500
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,200
So, you know, we're trying to share as much of this as possible.

501
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,200
And what would be cool, of course, if you have your show nodes,

502
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,200
as a part of that directory.

503
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,200
So that's one part, which I'm trying to figure out.

504
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,200
So basically, you should have an attachment.

505
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,200
If you're in the directory, and again,

506
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,200
it could be an HTML version of that directory.

507
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,200
In an ipod or on your mp3 player itself,

508
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,200
there you should be able to drop down into the next level,

509
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,200
which is basically my production show nodes.

510
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,200
And here's the cool thing.

511
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,200
So let's say, like yesterday, I forgot half of the things

512
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,200
that I was supposed to, you know, post along there,

513
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,200
and links, and other mp3s to link to,

514
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,200
wouldn't it be cool if all you did,

515
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,200
if you saw something in my outline,

516
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,200
basically my production show nodes and said,

517
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,200
oh, I have information for Adam on that.

518
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,200
And you sent me a link to an opml file itself.

519
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,200
I could copy paste that right in,

520
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,200
and would expand the information that I don't have,

521
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,200
so you can contribute to it.

522
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,200
So we have this big metadata thing

523
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,200
that we're, you know, basically it's connecting

524
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,200
a tree to each other.

525
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,200
It's a lot like weblogs kind of tilted on its side, I guess.

526
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,200
I know if that makes any sense, but I got pretty excited

527
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,200
by the idea that you could add just like you're adding

528
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,200
a directory with an opml file,

529
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,200
you can add information to my podcast show nodes,

530
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,200
which will basically show up anywhere.

531
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,200
They'll show up in the directory,

532
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,200
in the HTML version of the iPod or directory,

533
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,200
but they can flow out to anywhere that the directory is being used.

534
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,200
And you can kind of walk along this directory

535
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,200
and do all kinds of cool things where you can look for new stuff.

536
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,200
You could search it.

537
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,200
It's really wonderful the way I understand it,

538
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,200
which is still quite minimal.

539
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,200
And then I just want to leave you with a couple of things.

540
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,200
Well, first let me hit you with this one,

541
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,200
because this is another great of

542
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,200
another piece of great work from our daily source code listeners,

543
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,200
as we almost wind down the show for today.

544
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,200
Hey, they're Adam.

545
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,200
It's fun time Ben over a tracks up the tree.

546
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,200
Just sending you this audio comment to tell you

547
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,200
that I'm going to be at the Bitty's Holiday Party.

548
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,200
This Tuesday, December 14th,

549
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,200
at the living room.

550
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,200
You mentioned it on your show,

551
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,200
and I said, hey, I should be there

552
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,200
being that I'm a Manhattan resident,

553
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,200
or at least I work in Manhattan.

554
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,200
Hi, Adam.

555
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,200
It's Dan, fun time day in,

556
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,200
from fun time Ben's tracks up the tree.

557
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,200
Podcast.

558
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,200
I just want you know,

559
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,200
I've been sitting in the other room,

560
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,200
and Ben has been in here recording over and over

561
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,200
and over again,

562
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,200
his audio comment that he wants to leave for you.

563
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,200
He wants to get it just right.

564
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,200
But it's taking him a while.

565
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,200
So this is what I thought I'd do.

566
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,200
I just want to come in here and let you know

567
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,200
that fun time Ben would love to invite you

568
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,200
to join him for a,

569
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,200
the Sylvie's Bitty's show at 11 o'clock

570
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,200
in the living room at New York City.

571
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,200
I'm at those street.

572
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,200
I think it's 145.

573
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,200
Let me say I've heard about 700 times

574
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,200
that I think it's 145,

575
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,200
let those street.

576
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,200
Sorry, 154,

577
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,200
let those street.

578
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,200
And he would love to meet you

579
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,200
if you'd like to come down and see the show.

580
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,200
And he's going to be wearing,

581
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,200
he's always in Britain.

582
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,200
He's not coming to the show.

583
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,200
Then why are we leaving this audio?

584
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,200
I'm inviting the audience.

585
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,200
Oh, sorry.

586
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,200
Adam.

587
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,200
I'm sorry.

588
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,200
We're inviting the audience.

589
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,200
I'm sorry.

590
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,200
I didn't hear that part from the other room.

591
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,200
700 times.

592
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,200
But he's going to be wearing a yellow shirt

593
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,200
with unicorns making love on it.

594
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,200
And that's how you'll know it's him.

595
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,200
Yellow T-shirt, right,

596
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,200
with two unicorns making love.

597
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,200
So dear listeners and Adam,

598
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,200
thank you so much for your time,

599
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,200
your patience,

600
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,200
and we hope to see you at the show.

601
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,200
All right.

602
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,200
Take good care.

603
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,200
Bye-bye.

604
00:42:06,250 --> 00:44:42,200
[ Music ]

605
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,200
And do whatever I please.

606
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,200
You don't own me.

607
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,200
You never have.

608
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,200
You never will.

609
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,200
You don't own me.

610
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,200
You don't own me.

611
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:10,200
You don't own me.

612
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:17,200
You don't own me.

613
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,200
Check it out.

614
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,200
Be these backmasking.

615
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:35,200
Oh, that's for me, everybody.

616
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,200
Remember I was telling Analy.

617
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,200
We'll interview you for a while that the biddies did a backmasking song.

618
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,200
Let's play that backwards and see what they say.

619
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,200
Here it comes.

620
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,200
Can I do that?

621
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,200
Yeah, here we go.

622
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,200
Play backwards.

623
00:45:52,200 --> 00:46:07,200
That was kind of disappointing.

624
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,200
What the hell was that?

625
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,200
Good night.

626
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,200
Good night.

627
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,200
That's what they're saying.

628
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,200
Good night.

629
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,200
Backwards.

630
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,200
Tonight at the living room in Manhattan.

631
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,200
It's the most serious bitties make sure you catch the show.

632
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,200
And that's it for the source code for today.

633
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,200
You're walks over.

634
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,200
A little bit long, but you deserve the long walk.

635
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,200
I just want to leave you with a thought that Ron Bloom.

636
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:40,200
Dave and I have been talking with considering our new venture and podcasting,

637
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,200
where we see each other at the beginning of the new year.

638
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,200
You know, the iPod really made it hip to download music.

639
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,200
But it's the podcast that you're determined just how hip you really are.

640
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,200
Depending on what you have on your iPod.

641
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,200
Or comfortable and be three players.

642
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,200
With digital rights, music player management crafts.

643
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,200
All right, everybody.

644
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,200
Tomorrow I will be back.

645
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,200
We've got Clark Boyd from Boyd.

646
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:12,200
Boyd from WGBH coming into town into Lovely Gillford.

647
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,200
Doing a piece about me and my lack of bandwidth.

648
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,200
Oh, British telecom.

649
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,200
You're going to love this because it's a co-production with the BBC.

650
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,200
Oh yeah.

651
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,200
What was the chairman's name again?

652
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,200
Thank you.

653
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,200
Thank you.

654
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,200
Everybody.

655
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,200
See you tomorrow.

656
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,200
Bye.
