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Hey, what's up, everybody?

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It's just Karen.

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And this is Junior Bitches from the Lunatic Radio.com show.

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And you'll listen to Adam Curry on the daily source code podcast player.

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You know, that dude with the fantastic hair from MTV.

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How are you doing?

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How are you doing?

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Hey, everybody.

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How are you doing?

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Welcome to your daily source code.

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It is Wednesday, December 15, 2004 coming to you

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from Curry Cottage in the United Kingdom of the great

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pile of Britain.

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Something like that.

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Hey, friends, family world leaders.

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Welcome to the Big Show.

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I know the GM Pack Day, which puts me at recording the show

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at 11 o'clock this evening.

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I spent most of my time at Starbucks, though, as usual today.

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But not doing a podcast.

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I had a visitor from out of town.

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This time it was Clark Boyd from WGBH in Boston.

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You know, GBH, of course, from there.

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Excellent morning stories podcast.

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I've seen a phone call here.

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It's my friend.

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Hey, Dave, how you doing?

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Good.

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I'm in the middle of the source code.

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I just started the show and you called.

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I figured I'd pick up.

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Yeah, why don't I call you back after the show?

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I'll just run through everything and you're going to be up for a while.

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I'm going to be up for a while.

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I'll call you in about an hour.

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See, now that would have been great if I had a way to actually

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conference Dave in, clearly, that's up on his mind.

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As I said, I had a visitor from WGBH in Boston today.

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Clark Boyd also does a lot of shows that are co-produced with the BBC.

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Tomorrow, by the way, is the day that Alfian Benson come home.

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and start to go to the old process of donating some money to them.

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we just want to check and make sure that you're secure.

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I'm sorry that you weren't able to get hooked up with PayPal Robert.

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and I've used it for donation purposes.

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The first thing is the Heineken podcast.

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I know a lot of people at Heineken.

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He's a Heineken fan.

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He's a Heineken fan.

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He's a Heineiman all the way.

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That's just no doubt about it.

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You look at his ID3 tags.

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He's a Heineken logo.

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You look at his podcast logo.

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It's basically the Heineken logo with Rockin' Old Geek Show in it.

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He called up some Heineken office.

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We can't do a sponsorship before.

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It only wants us just a case of Heineken.

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Think of just this entire community will be up and,

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If only you'll give this guy a case of beer a month or something.

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I just do something.

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But it'll make a big deal of difference.

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And, you know, here's a very happy use of your product.

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You know, what more can I say?

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And by the way, a lot of people listen to him.

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And a lot of intelligent people.

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And a lot of, well, all kinds of people.

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And people who like to drink beer.

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So I put the call in.

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And what I guess what came back.

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I mean, there is no such thing as coincidence.

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Now there's a small agency for Heineken.

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That is creating a Heineken podcast.

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And it was a small agency for Heineken.

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That is creating a Heineken podcast.

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And it will besides the fact that you can't use Safari or

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or internet explorer browser on a Macinton.

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Well, forget it.

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If you're a Mac, you basically can't drink Heineken today.

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Which is very aggravating.

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The music is something totally different from what the rock and roll geek show is all about.

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And it just looks kind of a, I don't know if it's 100% related.

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But this thing is the shame.

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And I put out a call to the, to anyone who's involved in Heineken.

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You know, we can, we can, we can make this even better than a Heineken podcast.

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Why doesn't Heineken underwrite one of the premier pioneer podcasters?

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And you already told you the price.

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You know, and of course, I'm a business man.

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So I want my bottle a month out of it.

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You know, come on.

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You know, the sun don't rise from nothing here.

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But please consider it.

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How it's turned into a pretty good job when he,

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when he promoted Heineken.

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This is one way that the rock and roll geek could have done it.

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But I think he would do it differently.

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But what the heck, here's an exam.

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Heineken beer, baby.

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Yeah, man.

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Oh.

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This, by the way, is a part of my grandmaster plan.

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David, I talk about this all the time.

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It's happening right here.

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Wouldn't it, you know, all, you know, with podcasting,

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people are going to skip past the commercials if you have advertisements.

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News flash, revolutionary concept.

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Let's make the commercials interesting.

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So people will actually pay them and not play them and not get paid for it.

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Come here, baby.

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Yeah, come on.

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It's orgasmic.

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Oh.

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Okay.

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Well, you get the point, right?

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So, hi, Nickon.

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Come on, man.

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Let's get that case over here.

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Well, yeah.

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And while we're talking about the rock and roll geek,

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we might as well crank up some tunes by his band.

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American Hardbreak.

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Here's bitch.

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[ Music ]

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, silloo, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah you, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah

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It's your daily source code a whole lot. I'm doing that drunken thing again once I don't know what it is

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This is something that I'm seeing all over the place somehow when you're capturing audio on your Mac and Tosh

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Eventually a delayed builds up and it's just like it's milliseconds, right?

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But it doesn't matter what you're using. I happen to be using audio hijack pro, but actually an email was swirling around today

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That it's still hard. It's we do not have good podcast software at all at all

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We need to find something. There's a company out there called de let

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Dot let or dot some people pronounce a definitely dip the day let D-A-L-E-T and they make

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Radio station software. It's PC based and just it runs on you know a regular PC

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But it uses some extra hardware bits, but their interface is totally right for podcasting for making radio on

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On a computer if they would make a like for a light version that would be you know a huge market sure

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You know, they sell basically the big radio stations and big broadcast corporations, but I think a light version would be not only possible

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That totally cool just one more thing about

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American heartbreak

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They're going on tour any day now not coming

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Through the UK unfortunately. It's a very expensive country to tour in

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Especially considering that the pound is now about almost two dollars

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So and you know, and yeah, they do spend a pound like a buck back home

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Sure, milk may have kind of a similar value in price, but now not an easy place to tour

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I know the guys are going through Rotterdam. I should check it out because

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My plans have changed now as well mom got the call that she goes into the hospital on

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Sunday

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So the 20th Monday the 20th is when the operation takes place

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So my plans are shifting a bit. I'm of course going to go leave earlier

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Which may mean that with some luck maybe somewhere around the

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Love to find out after find it from Michael Butler when they're playing the playing in Rotterdam

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They're playing in Berlin, so maybe I can catch a show that would be cool. Anyway, great song song there

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Always happy to play American heartbreak on the show

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Just want to let you know that

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Yes today as I was talking about the some of the OPML stuff

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You know, I'm not the only person thinking about this good old

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Drew from the Don and Drew show was all over it and he's sending me OPML files that contain the archives to all of the Don and Drew shows

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Basically a placeholder so that his document will change whenever you want to take a look at

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What's going on with Don and Drew for instance on the pod squad page

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Or and this is what I tried from the iPod or directory you would basically have a you know

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A live update

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The OPML version works beautifully. I mean I can plug in anything I want

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Unfortunately the directory doesn't want to eat that code so we kind of got to figure that out

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But it's coming together. I feel I feel the vibe. I feel something happening with this OPML stuff

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It's happening something's coming together. So if you saw a note of the directory break

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horribly that was I was Drew and I'm mucking about trying to figure this out and

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Also a couple of some contact with some of the iPod or developers who are also now trying to figure out you know where where can we

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Pull this OPML in and you know, what are the consistent factors?

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I've had the horrible habit of putting a title on top of my OPML files of my production show notes

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Which basically is a directive that that makes a page render with the title being the title

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But there's a hash sign which kind of screwed up some some stuff. I think for the for iPod or X

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I'm sorry. I think was for the iPod or lemon team

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So I'm still trying to figure that out one thing that I've started doing though is in the album

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title

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The album ID3 tag where normally I'd say you know here's what's on the show now

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I'm putting the URL in there to the

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Production notes for that show to the OPML file so

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Maybe that's something that you know that that some of the iPod are going to be able to suck out of there and and use and display is information

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I don't know you can certainly test against my stuff and drew stuff and give us some feedback

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You know, let us know and we'll also keep an eye on the the iPod developer list

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Is this great? I mean drew a such a nice guy

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You know he's working with me on this and he's letting me totally fool around with his wife. It's great

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I'm such a lucky bastard

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Adam this is Chuck Tomasi of Chuckchat.com. I'm a long time listener first time podcaster

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Just wanted to pass on a little feedback and thanks regarding all your pontification about RSS and podcasting

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As in the UK a couple of weeks ago on business but due to terrible scheduling distance and in person visit was out of the question

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Would have been great to catch up with one of the podfathers of podcasting

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I've been living in Scotland near Edinburgh

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It was funny noticing a lot of the things you were talking about in recent weeks on your podcast things like the large power plugs with switches next to them

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The pop-in light bulbs in the lamps and so forth. I haven't got a chance to do some driving on the left side of the road using

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Manual transmission

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It's like having all your clothes on backwards and trying to right with the opposite hand very strange

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I kind of cheated with my opportunity to drive because it was 2 a.m. and there wasn't anybody out on at that time on Friday morning

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But it was the safest way for me

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Even inspired me to create my own podcast which I've called Chuckchat

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Hopefully you've got your broadband by the time you get this. Thank you for a wonderful show

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And keep up the good work. Thank you everybody. Oh, hold on. Hey, let's hear it for Adam

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It was more to the message. Thank you, Chuck

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Okay, no, I don't have my broadband yet. No, sorry Bob. I don't have my broadband

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I was actually going to read an article that a couple of people pointed me to about

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Britain's digital diet

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Actually I posted the link and see it was at Craig Patchett who who sent me this link

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Basically people in the UK are carrying around an enormous amount of data. I'm sure it's the same in the states as well

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But hey, you know, it's a it's a BBC story so

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They're gonna talk about the UK in this case, but instead of that I'd like to read another story

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I would read you a story kids

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Um

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The first person who pointed this out to me was Ross Jones

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Ross has been all over my bandwidth situation. This is from the register

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I written by Tim Richardson published

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Tuesday

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December 14th, 2004

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In the evening

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I'm sorry, 11 48 in the morning

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Grinch me time. Okay, here we go. I'm gonna read this to you because this is it's it's so typical. It's so beautiful

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titled gilford runs out of broadband

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Sudden surge in demand for DSL broadband and gilford has left BT that's British telecom

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On the hop and net users twiddling their thumbs waiting for high speed net access

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BT wholesale which provides DSL that is resold by ISPs such as AOL UK

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Tiscally and want to do UK has confirmed that all capacity at its gilford telephonic change has been used up

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New DSL broadband customers in the affluent Surrey town must wait until BT installs extra capacity in its exchange

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The UK giant telco says this should come on stream by the end of this week

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News that gilford had quote run out of broadband was contained in a blog by Adam Curry a mover and

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Shaker and podcasting in essence radio broadcasts for MP3 players on December 3rd he wrote

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I just got off the phone with British telecom who informed me that there are no ports available at my exchange and

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Someone would have to leave before one becomes available. Yes, there is a waiting list and know

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They can't tell me where I am on the list since it's sold out to multiple ISPs

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A spokesman for BT acknowledged that all the available broadband connections in gilford had been used up

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But denied that new users would have to wait until someone dropped off before being hooked up

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He told the register quote we do have people so I do the accent. Yeah, I think so

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We do have people waiting on that exchange the capacity has been reached but new lines will be installed this week

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The situation was not ideal he added but it was not typical of what is going on

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gilford was hit by a sudden surge in demand

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BT was also unable to say for how long the exchange has been full

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11 days at least according to curie or how many people are on the waiting list for broadband

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Excellent

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Excellent reporting thank you very much Tim Tim good job Tim Richardson and full of shit

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By this week you're right

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You're right

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Of course I just went through all the trouble of canceling the other ISP

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You okay online. I come on. It's not true. I can't believe it

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But you know what we got their attention and that's what counts and I really appreciate it and

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They will know that pod casten has come to town everybody

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more on bandwidth

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today if you

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looked at the RSS file you'll see that

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The daily source code was not coming from the server we've been using for the past couple of weeks

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which was

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The server at opml.org atom.opml.org

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This is a test and the reason is that we've seen that you know there's basically something

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going wrong in the network

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now that the amount of subscribers has increased significantly

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And downloads are breaking probably primarily

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downloads that are done by automatic iPod or clients

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It seems that people are having better luck with

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with their browsers downloading browsers but that kind of defeats the whole point of iPod or

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Anyway, you can see the post things we've pointed to it in the production show notes and in a on my

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on my weblogg davis

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Really it started up you know it was great started this

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Technical focus group on scripting news to you know see if we could

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Basically track down the issue white it was breaking for for people and

501
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And we're pretty sure it's it's the bandwidth that

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We're being provided but we're not 100% sure so let's see what the results are

503
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If we put it on an older server that well worked but we don't know if it's going to work with this type of volume

504
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So it could be a total disaster you may not be hearing this show at all this show may have been lost in in bid hell

505
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Maybe bit torrent is is where we're going to where it's all going to come down to

506
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I think it's got to be there pretty soon because otherwise

507
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You know, I'm not going to be the only one that's going to have this problem. I hope not

508
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Let's see what are we at now pretty good about 30 minutes perfect. I wanted to play something that Tony Khan

509
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Morning stories podcaster and by the way, have you noticed that morning stories is is changing

510
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Where it used to be just morning stories with an intro by Tony now is the intro by Tony

511
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You get the morning story and then there's like a whole kind of crew there, you know

512
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:36,520
It's like it's the Tony Khan crew zoo with WGV age and it's nice to hear you know

513
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There's some good banter going on. There's some good shoot in the shit which is not your traditional MPR

514
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Style I guess and I'm really enjoying that more of that, please more of that

515
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:53,800
And Tony did a conference recently. He spoke at a conference at Gisperkman at Harvard and

516
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And he put together a sampler

517
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On force I didn't see see the conference I couldn't listen to it. I didn't I think it was webcast

518
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But obviously my continuing lack of broadband is not allowed me to

519
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To download that I think I hope maybe there's a podcast that I can still subscribe to to get all of the sessions from that up to hunt around

520
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But he put together this sampler which he gave me access to and I was like

521
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It was so nice to hear a whole bunch of different voices and some of the stuff from earlier days of podcasting

522
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I just wanted to replay this. There's a lot of me in it, which is not the reason I'm playing it

523
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But really it's just a it's a nice flow and it's it's a whole bunch of voices that you'll recognize immediately and it's

524
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It's nice and I want you to hear it's about four and a half about five minutes, but worth a listen

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This thing on 30 seconds

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Welcome to the podcast from the kate and it's Adam Keratt of curries with any source code where users and developers party together

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And the glory of the internet the radio brothers podcast

528
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It's Tuesday November 30th and this is the news about independent Christian music

529
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Hello friends and neighbors. This is David Slashford. This is the evil genius Chronicles

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The rip and read blogger podcast

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From conservative perspective

532
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The digital experience podcast and food non-real music news and information podcast reviews in a

533
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Front political talk with Dan and Crane

534
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You've on recently radio show today show features cursing women

535
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Will powers dancing for mental health

536
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If I'll go well, I got a curdle panic. Oh whole computer crash showed it and get saved so I was fucked

537
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Hello

538
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Hey, good, you know, I'm in the middle of the source code

539
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So can I call you back on like 15 minutes

540
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Shit all over the Louis 14 the Louis cut-tours

541
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You but I want that I don't want a free mouse pad. I want my mouse by the mouse and that

542
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Shit my entire cup of tea spilled all over the desk

543
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It didn't spill on the keyboard. Well, I actually did spill a bit on the keyboard

544
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all over the breakout box

545
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over the mouse pad

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Christina

547
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Okay, let me see what can I do? Well, I continue to clean up here. Listen to the bit of the the sports pod, okay?

548
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Yeah, you'll enjoy that

549
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Wow, I'm watching it

550
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And Indiana Wow, I've never seen anything like this in the NBA. It's disgusting

551
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What happened is uh, Ron or Tastel Ben Wall is someone hard not that hard, but a little bit hard

552
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And

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Whoa

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Fans are just coming from behind

555
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Hi, I'm Todd Mappin. Thanks for tuning into the iLive Radio.org podcast today

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We are coming to you from Burgerling, Germany and my goal today is to find the wall or

557
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What's left of the Berlin wall anyway

558
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Spent Saturday night. It's been night with about 500 other geeks

559
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Waiting in life in the new Nintendo DS

560
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Something else that might surprise you people in smaller towns near St. Louis say

561
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They stands again from the negative publicity. I'll tell you what they're talking about coming up tonight on holiday news at six

562
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Welcome to real reviews films worth watching on Michael Gohagan today

563
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We're gonna talk about a fun film

564
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1999 the Limey it is directed by Steven Soderberg one of my favorite directors and it stars a great cast

565
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Terence stamp plays the kind of title character Dave Wilson. I think if we as sex right now

566
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It would give us a good rating right on the show

567
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I think we should good thing this isn't a video show

568
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Make up make up

569
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I don't understand why keep having to leave this is your show then you need to be writing down topics because I have topics another topic we were gonna talk about was gonna be

570
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,920
Frontline on PBS last night about how Walmart's destroying the world. I mean this was something that you were so interested

571
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I'm not gonna ring my hands over this election if nine eleven had never happened

572
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John Kerry would be present in elect today. I have no doubt about that

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Jim goes on Jim Gary

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I'm still shaking my head over this a new democratic slogan in the 2006 midterm

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quote you would vote for us if nine eleven hadn't happened

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Your spit is hanging and you have a fight because it's for democracy and yet when we have democracy

577
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You don't support him you would join your two because he's not doing what you want him to

578
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He's not even if you like he want him to and become that because of that because of that

579
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You commit a coup d'etat

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I want to tell people the boycott wall

581
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It's the only choice because they don't have everyone else out of business. Well

582
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Yeah, but I don't even think there was anything in there being with Chris. They still have downtown

583
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It was shitty and it was she before Walmart came. It was shitty after Walmart came. I wrote on the text weblog about this

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Thanksgiving episode of WGBH morning stories

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I thought was fantastic. He'd been blacklisted and knew he'd never see another paycheck

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Unless he cooperated with a committee recanted his views and informed on all his friends

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Instead that Thanksgiving he invited them all to a feast with

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We can't just a really dark period in American history, you know

589
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That's uh people think of that and it's kind of housey in time

590
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There's like a 10 15-year period where we locked up the Japanese because of their ethnicity

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We you know the whole house on American activities thing there was a lot of horrible shit going on back then as

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There is today by the way

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I guess eventually people will try to figure out how to make money on this

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If I gave you five dollars could I be your first commercial commercial person sure? I could say

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No, you can't see anything. It's 25 dollars. We might eventually have a sponsor or do a quick review of a product and you know

596
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We'll always tell you exactly if it's a advertised men or something we like

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I'm still drinking honey. I love the product whether they give me free beer or money or not

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I'll still drink that product so I found out today that there's a rating system for podcasts

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So you guys go there and vote

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Yeah, so we can be number one and take over the world and you will be my first lieutenant

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I will no not you

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You listening yes you I'm talking right to you

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No one else just you what ring do I guess I'm talking

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Don't listen to him. I'm the boss

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Jew he's a figure out president

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I'm Dick Cheney

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Would be here on your podcast. I mean it's the sweetest ever

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I know I'm so inspired I might I might pay pal you guys like two bucks today

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I can split it however you want a bucket of these or

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You know you go into Starbucks

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I don't have permission to play

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Abba

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See Betsy doesn't understand

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Copy left or create of comments or any of that type of license

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They're like no, it's not

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I understand you're picking through somebody else's garbage. I understand that

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It's not the human

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It's a it's part of community

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It's a community. That's neat. You can go sit in a field and eat carrots and share your open source

620
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We got to make money

621
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That's all I'm saying. I love it. Oh my god

622
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Do you think she would give me permission to play her music on it? She would be like

623
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Music bad face is provided by the generous permission of the general readers

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Chantelreaders dot com by their albums

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by their albums

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They're very very good

627
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By them

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Okay, the show just keeps getting better and better keep it up Butler. Huh. Thanks dude

629
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I don't think it's getting better, but I appreciate the nice words and it gives me the

630
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Cards to keep going on with this thing. I'm having such a blast doing this

631
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,000
I've been really fortunate and the fact that I've got so many listeners just tells me that some people are enjoying it

632
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,920
And I can't tell you how gratifying that is. See you then mentioned our podcast and we have popped up in there

633
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,920
Yeah, someone that me 10 dollars that podcasting wouldn't be around next year. I don't really want to

634
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,880
Wow cuisine. I'm learning how to speak Spanish. I am

635
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,440
Learning the incident. There was a an article in the London Times podcast in the next big thing

636
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You've always wanted to be star

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It's my job

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To make you a star

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00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:57,320
somehow you have a good ability to communicate a lot of geeks can't communicate. I know what I'm ready to what

640
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This is an easy way to do it. I don't see the other people. I can't see the other people. I can't see any of it.

641
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:11,720
And I think that the BBC is doing more podcasting experiments than we're aware of

642
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,000
Andrew Whitehurst sent me an email also and I'll just like you.

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00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:22,040
Like the day you walked into my life. So unmistakably like every other woman. It's so different in so many other ways

644
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,280
And you well, you were my second choice. I love you, baby

645
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,040
Well, I'm going to wrap this up. Do you want to say hi to everybody?

646
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Say it right here. I like my mom. Say bye bye.

647
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:41,880
Bye bye. All right, everybody. Good night. It's late. We're tired. We're going to go watch a movie

648
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:49,240
later. Can I ink on it? Take these everybody. I'll see you. Thanks for listening. Thanks for

649
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:55,640
subscribing, y'all. Bye bye. The source code can be found in its archives later. Show and the podcast

650
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:01,720
RSS feed and daily source code dot com. I'll check you out tomorrow everybody. Take care.

651
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,800
How amazing was that? Let me just turn this down for a second. That's the end. Hold on a second.

652
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:18,600
Oh man. Wow. I apologize. It wasn't five minutes. It was 10 and a half minutes.

653
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:25,960
That was really good. And I remember so many of those moments. It's only in, yeah,

654
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:33,320
Jesus man. This is good shit. This is really cool. And it went long so I'm not going to be able

655
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,960
to talk about the I River hack that I wanted to, but that of course will be here tomorrow.

656
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:45,560
Because I got some interesting news about the I River after my review from yesterday.

657
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,040
Wow. I'm going to actually listen to that podcast thing again. It was more than just a

658
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,080
sample. This had a whole flow to it. I mean, it was, it was a little bit of history in there as well.

659
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Excellent job. I'm sure Rick had something to do with it. I'm sure the Tony has,

660
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:08,600
has his, uh, it's got his team working on that stuff. Man, what an amazing, amazing amount of work.

661
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:15,160
Okay. Perfect time. 42 minutes. Going to leave it at that for today. I started a

662
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,560
phone call to make today. You know that. So I'll be back tomorrow for the Thursday edition

663
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,400
of the Daily Source Code and we'll be learning about hacking our I River. So you can always

664
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,360
send me email about that if you've got more on the topic. Add them at curry.com. Send

665
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,400
it as an attachment if it's under five megs. Take care. I'll see you tomorrow. Bye bye.
