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Welcome to the Data Source Code, today is Thursday, December 6, 2004, coming to you from

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Curry Cottage in the United Kingdom, and the lovely, affluent, seri, town of Guilfe,

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hits the source code, I'm Adam Curry and I've got the sniffles, I don't know if this is man,

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it was like, I thought I was done this season with flu and stuff and it's nothing else bothers me,

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it's all it is, it's 100% snob. It's not like a painting pretty picture there for you.

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Once again, it's about 40 minutes, users and developers partying together, got some nerdy stuff

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to talk about today, some pot-safe music, in fact, one of my favorite bands, Mo Jones

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is going to play something like them later on, and also have a bit of cover villa I want to share with you.

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Pretty unabendful day, actually, went off to the Starbucks to the band with

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whole to the pipe, had to go suck on the pipe for a while, got that nice and early, I was there

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around one o'clock, usually I'm a little bit later than that, I had my regular Grande Capuchino,

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why is it the instead of saying regular large or small at Starbucks, what is it tall, that's

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their small, Grande is their media more, actually kind of looks large, and then humanoid,

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like the big golf size, is venti. God knows, makes no sense, but I noticed that I'm starting to

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catch up with a lot of stuff, not with email, of course, I'm planning on catching up on that

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starting Monday, I'll talk about that in a sec, but had some, yeah, really kind of got a little bit

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synced up with the podcasts and was able to actually, I think it's because I was playing with the

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I River, you know, that I think I downloaded more than my usual quote, just filling it up,

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and I was listening to a lot of that today, and came across some excellent stuff, lot of fun.

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See, what else did I do, really? Oh, yeah, of course, God did the network test, put the source

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code up on the old server, which as many of you, not noticed is a dot max server, it's just my regular

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Adam Curry homepage dot mac, where dot mac account, where actually I had the source code, I was running it there

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for a long time, and then we switched over to a new band with the new servers, and it was working fine

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up until I guess we hit some critical point, and thank you all very much for all the testing you've done,

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about what at last count there was about 90, 90 different comments of people who've been checking

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out doing AV testing today on the dot mac account versus the Adam.opmail.org URL, where you could find

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today's show, yes today's show, I'm sorry, and it was just great to see all the tests going on,

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and it looks like, I guess with the provider that we have, once you hit some critical mass of band with,

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instead of throttling, well, maybe that is the only way you can throttle overload of circuits

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is to just start refusing packets, and that's pretty much what people are seeing happen is

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packets being refused. Now there's a couple of different options that we can take. One thing I've asked

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I potter developers and I've already seen some requests going and feature requests, so I'm hoping

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that they will have time to put this in, not just for the case that I bumped up against, but

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anything can happen, shit just does happen, if you're sitting on a 30 or 40 minute download, and

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the connection breaks or something hoses for some reason, it's a shame if you can't get the show

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anymore because somewhere, there is a certain amount of Murphy in the network, so some kind of

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recheck, and I think perhaps most, I don't know if the iPodders actually will look to complete

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all of the bytes, well, what will be nice that they would start the download again, and even

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better if they could start it, you know, resume where they left off. That's one fix. Of course,

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another one is staggering the RSS files, so you can basically change it. I think does that make sense?

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and then 15 minutes later you change it to another location, basically load balancing it out.

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BitTorrent, of course, seems like something we should be looking at pretty soon, and I think that we're

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going to see that, well, there's already been a lot of development going on, and I believe most of the

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major iPodders clients support BitTorrent. Actually, do we know if every single one of them supports

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BitTorrent yet, is that a given, we should check that, because if they do, then, wow, what are we waiting

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for, right? Let's get moving. So I'm going to keep it with the dot Mac for now, but clearly

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on the lookout for some really good bandwidth, and the one thing I'd love to hear from, and the

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one or two people seem to have a lot of knowledge about networks. If you're really in the networking

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business, please shoot me an email or an audio comment or whatever, just so we understand what we need

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to get, where we need to be, and even what is it going to cost? Where do I have to be to have

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not have a problem with number of subscribers trying to get to my content? And is there someone

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in this universe who can benefit from that? Oh, joy. Hello to the Prince of Paul at the

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boy. I don't know. Written hour from Portland, Oregon. I was sitting on the train on the way home

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from work, listening to the source code, and I was fucking shocked. I couldn't believe what I was

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hearing about your I-river, because I have an I-river, the hard drive-based one, the Ford

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gang, the I-HP 140, and it's totally different. It does all the things that you said it, you wanted

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it to do a record straight to MP3, which is why what I'm doing right now, using the internal

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mic, I just can't believe that they did a such a good job of mine and my product and just such

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a horrible job on the other. I mean, you got to record straight to MP3, or at least to a wave,

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and you got to just boot up just like a drive. That's what mine does. I can't believe they didn't

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do that right. That really makes me mad, and I'm sorry, that you got screwed on that.

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it is. One satisfying question or two is some satisfying customer. So, keep it up, man,

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love on the source code. All right, dude. Gotta love the Prince of Paul. Sorry. I haven't written

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out of there. Okay, so clearly there's a difference in different models of I rivers, and I got quite

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a lot of email and comments about the discussion that we had where I kind of reviewed this,

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what is it? The IFP 799? I have to keep looking at that, let me see. Yeah, IFP 799. We have this

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crappy I-river media manager. It's not even a media manager. It's a music manager. Imagine that.

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And there's all this DRM stuff in it, and the worst part is just that you can't just stick it

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into your USB port and have it mount as a drive, which is clearly what Adams and written hours

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I-river is doing. I guess he has a maybe more expensive model. I think he has one of the square ones.

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This is basically like a little triangle of cheese. And what I mean, if you buy like a cheese stick,

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I-I-river doesn't smell like a cheese stick. So it doesn't mount. And I got an email, and of

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course all of this, as usual, in the production show notes, from, uh, this is from, uh, it was from Holland.

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I remember, uh, Julius, right? Julius says he's got the I-HP 140, which doesn't have any of the

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the same problems, but he says that there's some places to look on the net that you can basically

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hack the firmware, one of them is MysticRiver.net, and there are ways to get around whatever

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he calls the DRM shit in there. Um, clearly, you know, it's like, boy, we really got to figure this out

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because otherwise it's a pretty nice machine. In the interface, it can still use work, but sound quality

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is amazing. The sound and the options that you can set is quite good. And again, uh, for reporter

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purposes, or for, um, on the go podcast purposes to have it, you know, just handy and be able to

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record something at good quality, even with the built-in mic for, you know, 30, 40 hours on end,

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it's, it's an invaluable tool without a doubt. Over the weekend, I was, uh, checking out, uh, no,

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Tuesday, I was listening to coverville. Uh, I love, uh, the cover real podcast. Um, and, and I'm,

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to this day, not sure about the legality of playing cover songs, but, um, you know, cover realist

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playing asscaping BMI fees and has an arrangement. I hope all that's cool. I really do it because

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it's so incredible to hear, uh, most of the songs you recognize, uh, but to hear them in different

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versions, uh, sometimes original, sometimes covers. It's, uh, it's just, it's a fabulous show and the

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frequency of this show. I think it's, uh, three times a week, um, you know, that's, it's great. I love

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it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. And even though it's a pretty big download, uh, the extra

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quality, it's 128, uh, K is, uh, it's, uh, it's well worth it. Now, of course, I wouldn't want to break

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any RIA rules or regulations or want to screw anybody, but, um, I heard this track. It's a cover from

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1990, uh, a song done by, uh, was not was. I know, uh, Don and David, I've met them several times,

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interviewed him a couple of times. So I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem with it. Don

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about the record company. Um, and, and, and this song that they're doing is, uh, special to me,

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because they mentioned a date in there, which is my birthday. So, uh, automatically, even though

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it's in a completely different context in the song, it's the song that is, you know, the lyrics

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of stuck with me for all of my life, basically. Um, so I want to play it for you because it is

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such a kick-ass version. It is so incredibly good that I think in, you know, we could just, it's

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news. And this is fair use. It's news. Cover of gold played an incredibly un-real version.

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Well, I, you know, I can't even announce it. I'll just have to have the, you know, the, I played the whole

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cover, cover real bit for you, so you can. All right, moving on. Let's, uh, we got a great big show

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for you tonight. Yeah, everybody. So let's get down to it. Our first group is, uh, was not was,

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a bunch of folks from Detroit, uh, let by, I'm going to turn it up to 11 here, hold on.

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Not their real names, not brothers, their David Weiss, and Don Fagensen, they went by the

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alias's Don Fagensen, or David and Don was, put your earphones on, had a ton of different

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vocalists in the band. It's really good. There cover of Poppa was a Rolling Stone, crank it up from

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ask or what, whoo, I was, man, I was awesome. I just love that version. Oh, that is so cool.

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ville, it does degrade. It really does degrade after a while. And I'm degrading it with my own

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recompression of recompression. So one day, you know, one day will have real high quality

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audio or, you know, maybe you'll pay a little bit extra for super duper high quality audio.

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You'll have to one way the other for your hard disk space. So it's, it's, it's, but

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oh, geez, I love that. Love that. More cool tunes on the way. And, um, uh, when I wanted to mention

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that, uh, oh, yeah, uh, the Dutch podcasting scene is finally happening. And I was trying to figure out,

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why was it taking so long? Because, you know, I'd post on my dad. I mean, people know who I am

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and Holland had posted my Dutch weblog several times. You know, hey, come on over and check out

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what's happening on the, uh, on the English side on the curried alive.curry.com. And of course,

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I realize now that there have been so many tragic accidents that have, or accidents or deaths

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really that have taken place in Holland in the past six months, um, you know, you take a

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tale of a hook into a count. And Andre Hazes, uh, who is a real folk hero singer, um, Prince

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Bernard, uh, they finally buried him, uh, just, uh, just the other day. And he died, uh, um, was it

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last weekend, I think? Uh, uh, I mentioned a tale of a hook ride. Of course, uh, pin for town,

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three years ago. By now, which is it's, it's been, uh, it's been kind of weird. And I think that now

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finally the press is, you know, they've covered all the deaths and the, and the Prince actually did one final

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interview a few days before he died. Uh, I haven't actually read the whole thing myself, but apparently

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it really took, uh, took the Mickey out of a couple people to put it politely. Uh, so I think that

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they, they were done, you know, they had nothing left to cover and, uh, you know, start looking around

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and say, hey, what's this commotion gone over there? Oh, that's, that's the podcasters. I'm sorry,

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what are these podcasters you speak of? So I think that's, uh, that's what happened. So, uh,

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B&N, uh, which is a broadcast company that I worked for for about, uh, was it, uh, over a year?

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love doing that show. It was, um, seven to ten did it with the Kid V, uh, you don't

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care, I can defect them. And, um, uh, I got admit that we didn't really leave on the best of terms,

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because I kind of like just like quit. Which, uh, is pretty much, uh, uh, yeah, it wasn't a nice way

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to end the relationship in hindsight, but there was a whole bunch of things going on and, you know,

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it's just, it happened that way. Um, and it's not that I went anywhere else, really, per se. I just,

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I just didn't want to do it for a number of reasons. Mainly, uh, there was a big to do about, um,

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the outrageous salaries that people in the public broadcasting sector were, uh, enjoying for relatively

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little work. And I was one of them, basically. And, and this whole report came out, this 110 page.

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I think it was a McKinsey or Anderson, Anderson report. And I read it and I was just disgusted.

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it was totally wrong because it was public money, you know, and it could have been put to much better

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use. And basically it was subsidizing my helicopter lessons at the time. So, so anyway, regardless,

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uh, I had a real good time, um, uh, working with them then, I tried to, you know, sell them on the idea

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of web logs. And I actually had a lot of infrastructure set up for them, which they, you know,

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then they went off and did it themselves, right? Typical story. Um, if you've ever seen blog news

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network, you know, that, you know, I basically set that up, you know, willing to sell it to them,

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or to, you know, to get them running on it and, uh, they had their own ideas. It's an old story,

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but, you know, it's like, they're, I don't know, maybe they're a little corporate,

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little government, you know, something typical about that. And, uh, uh, so now they've started podcasting,

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which is really nice because I know that, you know, basically everyone there's young and smart

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energetic and they do a number of, uh, really high quality radio shows, um, uh, and it did really

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different formats, a lot of talk and talk and music formats. And so they've, uh, created podcast feeds,

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and that's now become pretty much a big news story in Holland, right on the heels of the Heineken

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podcast. Uh, so, uh, and I think this is a, a much bigger story, by the way, because it is essentially

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what they're doing is they're pointing to the BBC and saying, hey, look, you know, the BBC are doing

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a podcast, well, the BBC did like a podcast in a half. Um, and, uh, and, you know, and so the news is,

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look, this is a great way to spend, um, the public's money, we're basically, uh, letting you enjoy

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our programming, um, any, any time you want, if, uh, you know, if you don't choose to listen to it on the radio.

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So, uh, that's, that's cool. And, uh, hopefully they're going to get listed in the iPodor.org

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directory in the radio, no, they, they sent me an email and said, you know, can you put it

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in the directory? So, well, you need to go into radio, I guess, or, I mean, where would you want to be?

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openness of the directory. But I'm sure that'll work out and they should show up. And, uh,

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welcome to have them here in our podcast space. Hi, this is Craig Patchett from godcast.org

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with the Living Word for Wednesday, December 15th, 2004. Our verses for today are Matthew 6,

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19 through 21, and the translation is the NASP. This is Jesus, speaking as part of his sermon on the

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Mount. Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where Moth and Rust destroy and where thieves

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break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither Moth nor Rust

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destroys and where thieves do not break in or steal. For where your treasure is, dare your heart will be

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also Matthew 6, 19 through 21. Okay, and that's beautiful. So, um, I subscribe to the, uh, to godcast.org

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to the Living Word because this is what comes through. And, um, and this is actually, of course,

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you know, I think the heaven here is a metaphor, right? This is, uh, it's about what's in your head,

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basically heaven head. So, uh, basically this is not, this is, I think what this is saying here is,

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um, you know, all the worldly possessions really don't mean anything. It's, uh, it's the possessions

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that you collect along the journey of life and that you, uh, carry with you and that you cherish.

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And I can tell you, um, from someone who was amassed an amazing amount of stuff. I mean, really

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stuff, and I've seen it because I've given half of it away in the past, in the past four weeks,

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just given away our stuff because it's sickening. Um, it really, it's, uh, it's nothing compared

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to the experiences that you keep up in your head, and in your heart, which in this case, I think is,

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in this verse of Matthew is, uh, uh, what's being talked about, uh, what's being referred to as heaven.

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And what thieves do not break in or steal? That's cool. Yeah, because thieves, where are your treasure

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or your heart? There, your heart will be also. Matthew 6, 19 through 21. Don't you feel refreshed?

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Now, now that we've been posting to the living word, comments and verse requests are always welcome

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and we'd back at godcast.org. This is Craig Patchett. Hoping that God blesses your day today.

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I'll see you tomorrow. God bless your day as well, brother. Excellent. Godcast.org.

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Hey, got an audio comment from Lee Wilkins, an update on Alfian Benson.

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Hey, Adam, it's Lee Wilkins. I was just listening to you going on about, um, and half the

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listening to Robert talking about the paper and the phase involved. Well, as you know, that's right.

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We were talking about that yesterday, um, uh, uh, what PayPal charges, because we did, uh,

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we raised the money for Alfian Benson, um, uh, VIA, uh, a PayPal donation link.

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It managed to raise the funds to get Alfian Benson back. You! Hey, boy. Now, they're going to be

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back Friday morning instead of Thursday morning because the quarantine people can't pick them up,

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but at least they're coming back. That's the main thing. But going back to the question anyway,

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uh, or a solution. Whatever, um, is that PayPal, we transferred the money to a guy in Houston,

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who was going to pay us cash over the count. Wait a minute. That sounded really dodgy.

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Wait a minute, you paid it to a guy in Houston who was going to pay it cash and bring it in a

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brown paper bag with the hellest. What's going on here, Lee? Uh, in the US, um, and we transferred

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to 1,200 and something dollars, okay? But what I'm trying to get to PayPal and PayPal took their

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fee. They took a fee of $43 dollars, um, for, for the 1,200 something. We said them, which I don't

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think is, I personally don't think it's too bad considering the urgency in the matter. But I can

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understand where Robert's coming from, where you're coming from, but you know, PayPal do take a large

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chunk. Right. But here's, here's the question. How much did PayPal take? Um, when we sent it

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to you, is that also a piece that they, so PayPal was basically grabbing it twice in this case.

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But, okay. I mean, yeah, I kind of agree with your point. And so it's, uh, what does that? It's like,

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three and a half percent or something. It's at the service trip, about three percent.

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You know, the other day, PayPal, our business and these banks. Um, I'm so I got in

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the introduction there. We, we don't call that a businessly. Hold on. We just, we call that a

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business business. And these banks, um, online payment companies have got to make this money

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somewhere. So one of screw over us consumers. Yeah. And that's it. As I said, Alfie invented

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a back tomorrow Friday, the 17th of December. Um, touchdown and morning, we're going to visit

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a meeting afternoon. I'll upload a podcast and some pictures and all that over the weekend as

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well. So have fun. Take care, Adam. Bye bye. Yeah, excellently. Okay. Well, looking forward to pictures

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and, uh, and sounds of Alfie and Benson, uh, happily barking away. Have anyone else noticed by

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the way, uh, that if you've gotten into podcasting, and I mean, really just listen to podcasts,

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that you may not necessarily be watching as much TV as you use to, as you use to, and I'm really

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finding this. And it actually may be not even that I'm, um, that I'm watching less, but I find that

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less interesting. This is so little television that is compelling to me. I mean, news is no longer

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compelling because I get my news on the internet. Um, some, well, BBC news, I, I like to watch because

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it has some regional stuff that I'm still not tuned into, and I'm trying to figure out who's

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what and who's doing what, uh, but still I, I think I get most of my news, uh, online. And then

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reality shows, at this point, they're not really reality shows anymore. They're, you know,

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very preconceived type of reality shows. Um, I don't know. I just, uh, podcasts seem so much more

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exciting to me. I actually look forward to, I guess that is kind of like weblogs used to be when we

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had weblogs.com just in the beginning, uh, you sit there and you hit refresh, you know, I was like,

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oh, you know, what's it? When, oh, look, this guy just posted, oh, she just posted, you know,

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here's that weblog that I've been following. And the same thing now with audio.weblogs.com,

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it's great. And if, if you don't know how that works, uh, definitely go to iPod.org and there's a link

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on the, uh, the couple of links to get help on that. Because you want, if you have a new podcast,

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you want to be pinging that server as what we call it, which means you basically say, hello,

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I have a podcast that's updated here. I am, and, uh, you'll show up on the top of that list and

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believe me, a lot of people look at that list. And also, that information is available in XML format.

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So that's being pulled into, um, uh, into new applications so that when people open up their iPod or,

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uh, and eventually, uh, this will all be on your MP3 player. I hope you'll see on your MP3 player that,

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uh, that something new is, uh, is available. Um, and you can make decisions about that, uh, on the go.

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So, uh, uh, I think radio's getting back for that, uh, that video killed the radio star thing.

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Oh, yeah, it's a show called audio. This episode won a body with a camera on the last one.

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Let me answer your monies. Let me begin and just start proposing to you this idea that I've got of an MP3

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key ask. So if you're like me, you've spent countless hours and airports, hotels and on highways,

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with nothing good to listen to. So, uh, everybody who's like that raise your hand.

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Okay. You know, you, you, you gas up at a truck stop at travel America or a loves. And what do you

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find inside, but, uh, I use condom. It'll be more on audio cassette, which I would never buy,

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or you're in an airport terminal. And what do you find for sale there? But uh, you too, it's all

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you too with the airport. $30 audio books. And you can't listen to the narrator ahead of time. So,

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you know, if you don't like the way the voice sounds, you're screwed. You know, I'm sure a few

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years will all be downloading audio content onto our cell phones, Dave Winner and Adam Curry,

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or forming a company as we speak on this premise of micro stations. I think it's a terrific idea

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and I'd love to hear more details. But until we have universal adoption of their service, which

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sure is going to take at least a couple of years, there's a market for another idea, I think,

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and it's the end of it. Wait a minute, let me just stop there because I had you, I was completely

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there for a second. I totally love the idea of at an airport where there's like a Wi-Fi and, um,

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and in your iPod, your MP3 player, your iRiver, your creative labs. Go, it's bling, you know,

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and then maybe there's a transaction, you pay for something, but, you know, it comes, it's comes

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boiling in and along with anything else you happen to be subscribed to, it's like a filling station.

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I can, yeah, why not have every gas station via an iPod filling station? MP3 Kiosk. So, with

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the wireless broadband connection and a touch screen, the public can easily pull audio content onto

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a portable device, right? Or burn it right there onto a CD-ROM. The back end is just an iPod or a

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Doppler derivative and the gooey's got an autopsy. I'm going to go to gooey with me, please.

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Oh, that anybody, even your grandmother understands it. No, I bullshit. So, you can sort the content

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by genre and popularity and, you know, if you wanted to try, listen to it. Okay, totally. I love it.

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I love the idea. It's a great idea. I mean, just the fact that we can have point to point sales, you know,

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of, you walk in and, and you can fill up really cool. And that, of course, is only a step,

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you know, from, from when, entire cities are blanketed and Wi-Fi. So, a lot of interesting stuff

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coming up in the future people. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas to me, I'll come.

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Merry Christmas. I just wanted to let you know, the scalp.net will be featuring nothing,

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but Christmas music for the rest of December. From the obscure?

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To the classics?

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To some stuff you've never heard before.

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So, tune in to the scalp.net Christmas kit.

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All right, talking about being a total TV junkie, reminded me that it was time to pull some

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loads of jones out of iTunes. Roll it out for you. These are a couple of brothers, cats, who, you know,

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home-seedy up in the rannick on their mat.

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[ Music ]

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I just can't live that way. I have to do mojones just as, you know, we got to kick it off again.

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TV junkie, mojones on your daily summer scroll.

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I'm sorry for the radio drop. We're not happening again.

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[ Music ]

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T-D-A-V.

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Junkey, and I'll do it for the Thursday edition of your daily source code.

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And got to get prepared because we got some road shows coming up pretty soon.

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On Monday, I fly to the Netherlands and I have chosen my hotel based upon weblog readers

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Curry.com. They say this is the place that has the best Wi-Fi.

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That in a 24-7 bar.

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I'm not really a drinker, as you know.

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At least there'll be life, you know, people will be doing stuff.

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And I have bandwidth.

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You know, it's me, all by myself, with a television and bandwidth.

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Wireless, I think that I'll be just fine.

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So I have all kinds of adventures on the horizon.

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Of course, we'll bring you the Friday edition of the show.

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We've got some cool stuff to talk about tomorrow.

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Meet you here on the source code.

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Oh yeah, if you want to send me an audio comment, add a link for read.com

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or leave a comment and I've got Curry.com or DannySource.com.

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You can just attach it to the email if it's under 5 megs of

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suck it down when it gets to the start.

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Take care, everyone. Have a good day.

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Have a good evening or good morning.