1 00:00:00,820 --> 00:00:04,160 Look, here in real life. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,660 Take off and leave. 3 00:00:06,660 --> 00:00:27,460 [ Music ] 4 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:45,300 Hey everybody welcome it's the daily source code coming to you from Utrecht you might 5 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:53,740 say Utrecht in the Netherlands in the low countries this is the podcast from the hotel room 6 00:00:53,740 --> 00:01:02,420 on the left-hand side of the bed which of course is where the power out but it's completely 7 00:01:02,420 --> 00:01:08,460 located alright everybody let's kick it off with some really really really good news my 8 00:01:08,460 --> 00:01:18,580 mom had her operation today they removed her entire lung but she was already off of the 9 00:01:18,660 --> 00:01:26,260 breathing apparatus when she was in intensive care breathing on her own and obviously totally 10 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:32,100 out of it but doctors say everything went great could not be happy 11 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:43,140 I want to thank everybody for all the beautiful thoughts prayers, emails, voice messages, 12 00:01:43,140 --> 00:01:47,460 audio comments, everything all the great thoughts that you've been sending along this is 13 00:01:48,340 --> 00:01:53,860 obviously just to be the beginning of a journey from my mom and for her friends and obviously for the 14 00:01:53,860 --> 00:02:03,300 family but we're off to a running start let's put it that way so I'll be in and out of the hospital 15 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:09,300 for the next couple of days I chose this hotel because it's very near to the hospital so it's not 16 00:02:09,380 --> 00:02:15,300 anywhere really near I'm saying well it's about 20 minute car ride if if you wanted to do it 17 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:25,140 but it was great because I was looking for a hotel in Utrecht that was you know a nice hotel 18 00:02:25,140 --> 00:02:32,420 this is a word that they call us a four star hotel I guess which is whatever and but my criteria 19 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:39,700 of course number one top of the list was you know I need Wi-Fi I need really good solid Wi-Fi 20 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:45,460 and I'd prefer to if it could be a hotel that didn't have the remote control nailed down to the 21 00:02:45,460 --> 00:02:53,540 to the cabinet next to the bed stand and this is great the the Wi-Fi is unbelievable of course 22 00:02:53,540 --> 00:02:58,340 as I already posted on my blog you know when it comes to when it comes to me and and connectivity 23 00:02:58,420 --> 00:03:04,020 I mean Jesus Christ and after four weeks of living on a modem this is almost like you know 24 00:03:04,020 --> 00:03:08,020 taking the first talk off of a off of a join after you haven't smoked for four weeks 25 00:03:09,060 --> 00:03:17,140 which of course I can't really talk about anyway so I got this the beautiful little 26 00:03:17,140 --> 00:03:23,940 personal access code to log into to the Wi-Fi here and it says here this is I love this card 27 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:31,700 this is a super fast internet hotel ADSL surfing for a fixed price seven euros 50 a day 28 00:03:31,700 --> 00:03:38,420 which well these days is actually a lot of dollars but that's a pretty good price when it comes 29 00:03:38,420 --> 00:03:46,580 down to a star bug let's see what I paid star bug star box I pay 30 pounds a week which is the equivalent 30 00:03:46,580 --> 00:03:55,060 of shoot well that's about forty forty dollars yeah I mean definitely definitely not cheap 31 00:03:56,900 --> 00:04:02,660 so oh by the way thanks to Marcus Mowler for a little bit of the drum cadence the beginning of the 32 00:04:02,660 --> 00:04:10,340 show that was his cousin Tim who was in the blue devils back when he was in high school and of course 33 00:04:10,980 --> 00:04:17,300 as you know by now on the on the production show notes as a link to all of that it's it's amazing you 34 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:22,180 know I've I've really gotten to this drum cadence stuff all of a sudden people sending 35 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:27,380 me all these different files and some of the stuff is just outrageously good and there's a whole 36 00:04:27,380 --> 00:04:34,900 industry around drum cadence as people selling CDs and DVDs and I'm actually looking for you know 37 00:04:34,980 --> 00:04:41,540 for some for some hit songs being done by by drum bands because that I'm I'm not a lawyer but I'm 38 00:04:41,540 --> 00:04:47,220 pretty sure that as long as you pay your ask at BMI and you have permission to use the actual recording 39 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:52,580 and it's okay to do it so maybe that's a way to get you know to play some of those memories we've 40 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:59,940 been talking about more about that by the way later on in the show just a little idea what the setup here 41 00:04:59,940 --> 00:05:07,780 is I couldn't get one a full size queen or king size bid they only have two singles next to each 42 00:05:07,780 --> 00:05:14,020 other so one will be for sleeping and one will be for podcasting I've got the power book on my lap 43 00:05:14,020 --> 00:05:18,420 I'm I'm I'm so I'm propped up with pillows behind my my back I'm on the on the bed here 44 00:05:18,980 --> 00:05:24,420 on top of the bed with the laptop I've got the headphones on I brought my breakout box the M audio 45 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:31,940 and I brought the the sure the SMB7 and the stand for this it's a little portable stand that I 46 00:05:31,940 --> 00:05:39,060 use at home oh I'm just going to tighten that there my my father-in-law made this he that guy is 47 00:05:39,060 --> 00:05:45,140 looking amazing you you give him like couple of toothpicks and and Scotch tape and some string and 48 00:05:45,140 --> 00:05:51,780 hillbillgia you know a go-kart he's incredibly talented when it comes to making things and he created 49 00:05:51,780 --> 00:05:56,100 this mic I mean and he's always into the stuff that I'm doing right he's a total techno geek he's 50 00:05:56,100 --> 00:06:02,980 he's a musician he's a recording artist he had a recording studio in fact mumbo italyano that 51 00:06:02,980 --> 00:06:07,460 that I've played on the show the song that Patricia did was recorded in soundhouse which was 52 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:15,540 her dad's studio which he sold many many years ago so he created this mic stand out of a 53 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:22,020 a stand that basically holds your music notes and it's perfect it's miniature but I can 54 00:06:22,020 --> 00:06:27,860 extend it with a little tell stop telescopic bit and because it has you know the bass is well if 55 00:06:27,860 --> 00:06:33,060 you know what a music stand looks like you can really extend the bass of the of the stand it's 56 00:06:33,060 --> 00:06:37,860 diameter quite you know quite a way so even though it's just kind of propped on the bed because 57 00:06:37,860 --> 00:06:43,460 the bass is so large now it's just it's there it's not toppling over of course that would be 58 00:06:43,460 --> 00:06:49,380 inviting Murphy in the door here but it's it's pretty good so almost have the identical sound as 59 00:06:49,380 --> 00:06:55,700 as back home back at the cottage where every one of course is having a good time and enjoying the 60 00:06:55,700 --> 00:07:00,660 Christmas shopping but it's going to be interesting the next couple of days because Dave's on the 61 00:07:00,660 --> 00:07:06,580 road Dave Winner he's he has no house he's homeless he's living in hotels I'll be living in hotels 62 00:07:07,620 --> 00:07:12,740 and we'll be in contact and oh god man he had an excellent podcast I listened to on the plane 63 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:17,060 I'll be talking about that later first I want to bring you some music here on the source code 64 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:21,620 kind of bending the rules here because it's a mashup you know mashups or smashups or 65 00:07:23,220 --> 00:07:29,860 basically mixes where people are putting two different songs usually one old one new and connecting 66 00:07:29,860 --> 00:07:35,220 together mixing them together you have bands who are doing this live and I got an email here from 67 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:41,620 Mike Corley obviously it's part of the production show notes and he sends a link to a couple of 68 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:48,580 MP3s to check out this is the one I thought I'd play for you now because it's it's the time of 69 00:07:48,580 --> 00:07:56,180 year it is the season it's Jenny on the block and Paul McCartney Christmas on the block 70 00:07:58,750 --> 00:11:08,920 [ Music ] 71 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,160 I think I lie 72 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:12,960 I love it 73 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,200 I'm the perfect age too 74 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,860 I remember when Paul McCartney came out we're the song 75 00:11:19,860 --> 00:11:22,160 and I remember when J railroad this song 76 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Get I at him. This is Cam and Mick from the Good Day World podcast. 77 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,960 Get I at him. Get I world. 78 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:30,800 Good day. 79 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Hey, you're doing it. 80 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,800 Get I at him. 81 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,400 We've been doing this podcasting thing for a couple of weeks. 82 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,160 And my way we think it's a lot of fun. 83 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,920 And we want to give you a shout-out. 84 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,440 Say thanks very much for all the boring boys. 85 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,640 You don't want to just miss a shout-out. 86 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,480 You want to promote your damn show, right? 87 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,440 Boying boy. 88 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,840 All the great work you've been doing. 89 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,920 I've been last six months to reinvent this medium. 90 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,880 It's something that's got a big future ahead of it. 91 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:00,720 We're both sure. 92 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Yeah. 93 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:01,720 Interesting. 94 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,560 Re-invent this medium. 95 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:04,160 That was funny. 96 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,120 Because I was just talking to a reporter from Rolling Stone. 97 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,320 Today, she called me. 98 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,760 And she actually had followed my postings of my web blog. 99 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,840 And she was like, oh, you know, I don't want to bond with your mom 100 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,040 and all that, but I have a deadline. 101 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,800 We were talking about this. 102 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,400 We were talking about just about radio. 103 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,800 You know, how it used to be Murray the K. 104 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,280 And that's before my time. 105 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,400 But I like to say, you know, Murray the K was broadcasting. 106 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,360 And people were listening on their transistor radio. 107 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,360 It was little portable things with batteries, sound familiar. 108 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,000 And Ahmed Erdogan was, you know, who's the chairman or founder of Atlantic 109 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Records. 110 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,400 He was selling the shit right out of the back of his car. 111 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,040 You know, we're moving to that space again, people. 112 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,080 It's been good. 113 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,600 So you definitely should get people to come down and check out our podcast. 114 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,200 Because we want to, the few guys in Australia actually doing this at the moment. 115 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,440 And we're getting a lot of really good responses to it. 116 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,120 So get your, get your lyrics and let's just come on down. 117 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,440 Check out Get A World GDAY World dot common. 118 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,320 Hey, Adam, we're running a conference in February, mate. 119 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,120 A blogging slash podcast in conference. 120 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:11,600 Yeah. 121 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,720 We would love to have you come down there. 122 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,400 I'd be fantastic. 123 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,360 You know, I did a documentary once on a part of Australia. 124 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,160 There were a couple of people. 125 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,520 It was like a rough guide. 126 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,280 BBC does these great documentaries. 127 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,040 And it was, it was awesome. 128 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,720 I had so much fun in Australia. 129 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,360 Started in Sydney when all the way to Perth, you know, stated Cooper 130 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,800 PD, which is, you know, the Opal mines went to the smallest town. 131 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,320 And all the tourist things, right? 132 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,680 But also a spinsters and bachelor's ball. 133 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:41,600 My God, you guys know how to party damp. 134 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,200 Have a bit of a Jeba? 135 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,480 Come and have a drink with the ruin the pub. 136 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,160 It'll be a route where drink with the ruin the pub is a kangaroo. 137 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,880 Right. 138 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,360 We'll throw. 139 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,400 How about the shaylers? 140 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,520 Where the shaylers? 141 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:56,400 All the shaylers? 142 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,520 You shrimp on the barby fair. 143 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,040 We might even have a t-shirt for you. 144 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,080 We'll get A World T-shirt. 145 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,320 Yeah, let's go beat up Paul Hook and the kangaroo on it. 146 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,040 Yeah. 147 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,840 So, on you, Adam, thanks for all your hard work, mate. 148 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,880 And we look forward to seeing you on our sunny shores soon. 149 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,600 Right on. 150 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,720 Now, where is matey? 151 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,440 See you later. 152 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,200 That really would be nice to go to Australia again. 153 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:15,840 It's so nice. 154 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,840 It has what to inhaling. 155 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,720 They have something called gazellechide, something is gazellech, 156 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,360 which the best and the closest translation to that 157 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,360 in English is coziness. 158 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:30,480 And so, what I found in Australia is they have the gazellechide of the Dutch. 159 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,680 They still have a lot of English properties to them, 160 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,640 which I like, even though they're the pomeas, right? 161 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,040 Prisoners of Mother England is that what it was. 162 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,240 That's what the English call you. 163 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,960 Well, that was a long, long time ago. 164 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,400 And there's also all the convenience, or most of the convenience, 165 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,880 I found of what you find in the States. 166 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Really, really nice. 167 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,360 Australia is okay. 168 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,880 I think it's an undiscovered frontier. 169 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,240 Now, you can't just move there and go live there unless you have 170 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:05,040 like a whole freaking load of cash and you promise to invest it 171 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,640 certain ways and do certain things. 172 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,760 Or you have to be invited. 173 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,360 You can't just be sponsored. 174 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,280 Remember, friend of mine, Michele, Michael. 175 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,640 He was a programmer, Janbi, and he had been in Australia. 176 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,320 And he wanted to go back to Australia. 177 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,360 And he was a physicist. 178 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,160 He was a professor in physics. 179 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,400 And they said, and the Australian officials said, 180 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,720 well, you can't just come here to live with your family. 181 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,440 Unless you have the proper education and whatever. 182 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,000 And Michael said, yeah, I think I got that. 183 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Until what are you freaking rocket scientists? 184 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,560 And he said, well, that's a matter of fact, yeah. 185 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,840 I don't know what you're in. 186 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:48,480 You never know. 187 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,200 He might use it. 188 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:51,920 He might throw it away, but he might use it. 189 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,880 Well, you go. 190 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,000 He uses lots of crap. 191 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,400 He does. 192 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Probably when you use that, we say to use lots of crap. 193 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,480 But yeah, okay. 194 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,440 Did that fit out? 195 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:06,240 So you reckon that? 196 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,040 That'll be an extra bit of work. 197 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,440 I got a good day. 198 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,560 Well, podcast, excellent. 199 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:14,720 Excellent. 200 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,080 This is your daily source code. 201 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,040 It is, well, it's already officially Tuesday. 202 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:24,240 But we're going to call this the podcast for Monday, December 20, 2004. 203 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:29,440 And I want to talk about, I really, some stuff started to come together. 204 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:34,240 The minute Dave hit the road, and if you haven't 205 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,360 listened to his morning coffee notes podcast, 206 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,640 in fact, you might, if you haven't on your MP3 player right now, 207 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,240 you might want to stop here, listen to that podcast first, 208 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,440 because I'm not going to play excerpts from it, because it doesn't work 209 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,680 that way with the morning coffee notes. 210 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,280 It's a build-up, it's a story. 211 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,480 I have to listen to the whole thing. 212 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,240 It's short, it's like 23 minutes. 213 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,280 It's well worth it. 214 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,680 Okay, welcome back. 215 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,920 I'm glad you listened to that. 216 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,440 And since you just listened to Dave talk for 23 minutes, 217 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,920 let me play you a bit of a drum cadence, everybody. 218 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,520 Yeah, let's kick it, shall we? 219 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,240 This is from Duncan. 220 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,440 It's the FSU drum line from 1997. 221 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,600 I'm just going to play a little bit because it kicks. 222 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:58,750 [ Music ] 223 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,360 It's a drum cadence, you know? 224 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:06,560 It's like, this is the perfect, if you're just outwalking, you know? 225 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,320 Isn't this pretty motivated? 226 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,200 I think what way you could do if you remix this. 227 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,360 Goddamn, and think about I'd love to hear some songs. 228 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,160 People record songs and use a drum cadence like this. 229 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:24,400 It's awesome. 230 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:31,120 Okay, so I'll just let that play in the background a little bit while I tuck and make 231 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:37,600 so to so talk to you a bit about actually, I think it started to click for me 232 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:44,080 a couple weeks ago, Dave pointed to an old piece that he had written in 2002 233 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,440 about the monoculture. 234 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,480 I call it dismantling the monoculture and the entire theory. 235 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,320 And I remember reading this piece originally and it just didn't, it didn't kick in. 236 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,040 I'm thinking maybe I should even just read a part of that hold on. 237 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,920 Or is it there? 238 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,920 I got that speedy Wi-Fi here, everybody. 239 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,560 Mm, loving it. 240 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,040 Here it is. 241 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,520 This is the piece that really like, perhaps the centralized system that led to such a 242 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,400 suffocating monoculture was a historic anomaly and artifact. 243 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,840 The technology of the phonograph, radio, and television demanded centralization, 244 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,600 distribution was expensive. 245 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,320 To pay for distribution, we needed financial entities who would be rewarded for risks. 246 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,160 Who would be the next beetles, the band that everyone listened to, 247 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,880 maybe in the future there won't be bands that everyone listens to. 248 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,280 Maybe this wouldn't be so horrible as the philosophers of the centralized systems believe. 249 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,640 Perhaps monoculture has run its course. 250 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:50,640 Maybe that's what's happening right now, but it's hard to see, 251 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,960 is that each of us is taking more responsibility for getting our own information, 252 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,040 for creating our own entertainment, 253 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,600 and not giving that power to the centralized entertainment and information industries. 254 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,400 Excellent. Excellent. 255 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,400 Written on May 13th, 2002 by Dave Weiner. 256 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,480 So, all of a sudden it just started to click, of course. 257 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,320 You know, if you can record music, you know, if you're like the lascivious bitties, 258 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:22,800 if you're like a mojoan to record that entire album on a Mac in their attic, 259 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,680 you know, if you can do all that, if we have this wonderful incarnate, 260 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,800 yeah, I got to curse you too now, don't miss Ellie. 261 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,920 If we have this wonderful incarnate, which lets us distribute all this stuff, 262 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:42,880 then it only makes sense that, you know, we've put this next piece of the puzzle in this podcasting, 263 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:50,240 where we can act as the intermediaries, the, you know, the way radio guys used to do it, 264 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,880 the way Murray, the K, you know, Murray, the K didn't have some playlists that he was just, 265 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,080 you know, okay, it's time to play this one or the computer spit it out, 266 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,280 you know, and you can even announce that are backing out and sort of say anything about it, 267 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,880 or even mention that he liked it or not, he just, you know, read the next 268 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:11,360 liner card to promote, you know, the Saturday night dance party or whatever, you know, 269 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:15,840 no, he was, he was, he was, you know, they were, remember that was smashing record, you know, 270 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,440 it was like, make it or break it, you know, and then people would call up and say, it sucks, 271 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,640 it's, it's, it's smashing, we'll never play it again, and if it was hit or miss, I mean, all these things have gone, 272 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,720 you know, you don't hear those shows anymore. We're coming back to that, we can now do that, 273 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:34,480 and that's incredibly exciting. Now, yeah, sure, we're not going to be, uh, clear channel, 274 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,840 we're not going to be billionaires, you know, I, I, I've, no thoughts whatsoever, you know, 275 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:46,080 that, that, it's not even necessary, it's just not necessary, it's okay to have a couple hundred 276 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,520 people checking it out, or couple thousand, and maybe it's a hundred thousand, maybe it is 50 million, 277 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:59,440 it really doesn't matter. The system is working, that's the thing that's, uh, that's what, 278 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:08,400 that's what I love so much is that, um, we're rooting around the RIA, although I've got to say 279 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,680 it really, really bothers me that, you know, we can't play these, share these memories, and, 280 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,640 you know, Dave had an interesting idea, you know, that, or it says, he's basically reaching out to the, 281 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,120 to the record companies and saying, you know, why don't you let us use your stuff in some, you know, 282 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:29,360 uh, low resolution, some low-res manner, so that it really just won't make any difference, if, uh, 283 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:34,320 it just won't be good enough for recording, and I think personally, uh, and this actually, this used to be, 284 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:41,840 uh, uh, uh, uh, pre-requisite, and I don't remember if that was Dutch broadcasting rules or US broadcasting rules, 285 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:48,720 but, um, you were never allowed to play a song beginning to end without, you know, a jingle or talking 286 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,960 over the intro or talking over the outro, and essentially, I guess, you know, with podcasts, 287 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,760 as long as we do that, there were, you know, we should be okay, and people, it doesn't matter, 288 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:04,240 forget it, it doesn't matter. We have the proof, people buy albums. They've gone out and they've purchased 289 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:12,480 CDs of those CDs, bitties, because they heard it on this podcast or other podcasts, and they'd like it, 290 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:20,400 and that's a really big deal. So, you know, it can be done, but if we get about established artists, 291 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:28,240 I'm so incredibly excited about, um, you know, what we can do with this specifically when it comes to music, 292 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,120 and, uh, of course you did listen to Dave's Morning Coffee notes, and I was listening to that, 293 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:39,200 I was able to download it off the, I saw that he posted it, um, sometime around mid-afternoon, 294 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,400 my time in, uh, in the UK, and I was just able to download it and slip it on to the iRiver, 295 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,640 didn't even put it on the iPot to put onto the iRiver, because that was closer, as I was running out 296 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,920 the door to, uh, to grab the cab to, uh, you know, to get to the airport, and so I listened to it, 297 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,000 uh, half on the way to the airport and half in the plane, it was like, and just it hit me, 298 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,440 it's like, yeah, we can do this, you know, we can totally get this going, and, you know, we, it's, 299 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,000 we're jelling on it, but, uh, it's just gonna happen, it's so interesting that, you know, we're, 300 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,960 I think, and feel that we're working up towards our January 3rd is when we meet with Ron Bloom in, uh, 301 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:21,600 in Miami, which shows Miami by the way, because it's warm. And Ron also lives there, so, um, 302 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,360 we got some infrastructure going, but Dave and I are going to stay at, uh, something really cool, 303 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:30,880 local, you know, like holiday and Ramana in riot, riot, whatever it is, with not with Wi-Fi, but with 304 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:39,920 great, uh, fixed broadband, uh, Ron actually went and, uh, checked it out, and, um, oops, sorry, the drum 305 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:45,840 cadence is just keep on coming. You heard, uh, what was it? This is Joel's cadence, drum line, 306 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,440 keep that roll on the back. So I was actually thinking of surprising Dave, I hope that we have rooms, 307 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,840 close by. If not, um, I'll get, maybe we'll just get him when I want to get, uh, an Apple airport 308 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:06,000 express, just plug it into the wall, you know, and, and hook up the, um, uh, uh, the Ethernet cable, 309 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,720 and we'll have our own little Wi-Fi network. So, and, you know, we're gonna be working together, 310 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,320 and even though we're gonna be talking about, you know, what we want to do on a business level, 311 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,720 and, you know, they're all kinds of businesses. They're also businesses that are not for profit. 312 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:29,200 Or not necessarily for profit. Or for enormous amounts of profit. There's all kinds of companies, 313 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:38,320 but we've got something going here, and what, uh, what's happening, and, and Dave and I have, 314 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,280 uh, well, this is something that's, well, I think it used to bother us a little bit more than it does now, 315 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,080 but now we kind of got, they got it figured out that people don't quite understand the story yet. 316 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:55,440 What happened with podcasting is a story behind all of this, podcasting really came together, 317 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:02,640 because here was Dave, um, creating podcasts, which is, you know, MP3 files that he was putting up 318 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:08,480 on his, uh, on scripting news, and he was attached to him to his RSS file, which would be 319 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,760 doing together for years. Uh, but it was like my own personal broadcast that I was receiving, 320 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,400 because I had an aggregator, and I was, uh, that understood in closures, and I was bringing it in, 321 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,880 and I was giving a feedback, and you can look at all the, look at, look at the, uh, around the time 322 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,080 of the Democratic National Convention, and you can see between my weblog and Dave's weblog, 323 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,600 and he was like being the most, I mean, just, he was breaking all the rules of broadcasting, 324 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,840 he was awesome, and shit was, you know, was, wasn't working, and the mic would disconnect, 325 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:43,040 and it was just, it was an amazing thing to listen to, and I really, really dug it, 326 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:47,600 and this was around the time that I was, you know, fucking around with programming. So here we are, 327 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,440 I'm, uh, a broadcast or not a programmer, programming something, and then here's Dave, a programmer, 328 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:59,120 not a broadcast or broadcasting, and it just all, and it was almost like we both had to approach 329 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:03,440 the same problem from different directions for us to meet in the middle, and that's something 330 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:09,600 really big and powerful, and, um, and it's gone, and so Dave is now with his voice back, he's, 331 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:16,400 continue to do his podcasting, and, um, what he's doing is, I mean, you got to subscribe to that 332 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,040 feed, because he tells these incredible stories that build up to something, and, uh, and I'm 333 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:26,160 really enjoying listening to it, and I'm looking forward to, to, as I said, to seeing him, uh, in, 334 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,440 in Miami, and, uh, and getting some of that energy face to face. Now, I, on the other hand, 335 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,560 work on some programming stuff now, uh, with the open source release of frontier, 336 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:43,120 and all of these links, of course, everywhere on the production show notes, and I've now, um, 337 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:49,520 it took me a good portion of the other day, five or six hours, to create a piece of software, 338 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,880 that crawls through the entire ipodder.org directory, because, you know, this is decentralized, 339 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,520 and I'm only maintaining a certain amount of nodes, and then there are all these different nodes 340 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:05,520 and sub-nodes, which may contain by other people, and, um, basically, I just paste a link into an 341 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,560 outline, and, uh, on the directory, when you click into, like, the music node, you're actually, 342 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,320 pulling an information, uh, from a server, from Holland, and that's rendering in real time, 343 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,280 and below that, there's even, uh, I think the indie music feeds are being maintained by someone 344 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,560 in the states. So, it's completely decentralized, but you have to be able to crawl that entire 345 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:32,240 directory, so I created a piece of software that does just that, and, um, and, um, and, but now, 346 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:40,640 also, it parses through the, uh, last 100 podcasts page, which is audio.weblogs.com, because, 347 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,120 not everyone who pings that page to say, hey, you know, my, my show is updated, come and check it out. 348 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,840 It's registered in the directory, so now I'm taking all that information, and that's, uh, 349 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,440 and so, you know, whenever I run this thing, there's, like, 40 new podcasts showing up, 350 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:01,120 and, uh, of course, there's some checking that has to go on for, um, uh, double, you know, um, 351 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:08,400 duplicate URLs and, and all that. Um, but the next step is, uh, for me to automatically update the 352 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:14,720 what's new, um, uh, well, I have to, I want to put a process in between, right? So, uh, I can kind of, 353 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,200 uh, just, you know, see what, what's coming through and make some decisions for the beneficiary 354 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,080 if I can route it to a category or a node that I maintain. Then it should update the what's new, 355 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:31,200 node, and it'll also, um, through XML RPC, uh, post a new podcast, notice on the homepage by 356 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:37,360 potter.org. So, I hope to get that part done, uh, sometime during, uh, the next couple of days while 357 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:44,880 I'm here. Okay, a little bit shorter today, uh, since it is, uh, what's the time here? It's 125, 358 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:50,240 it's 12, 25 UK times, so I'm not really tired yet, but I really should hit the hay in a couple 359 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,720 minutes. I'm also going to turn out Skype and see if anyone's around before I, I go to bed, 360 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,520 but I cannot leave you before playing this wonderful Christmas message. 361 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,720 Hi, Adam Curry. This is Leanne Westover from the LaCivius Bitties. I just wanted to send you this 362 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:18,560 quick audio file to say, Merry Christmas. Ever bought it? Boyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoying, 363 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,600 everyone goes well with your mother. I hope you get everything on your list. 364 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,040 And I hope you get dispensed on great quality time with your wife and your daughter. 365 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:34,400 The second thing I wanted to say is haaaa, Man holidays to everybody that listens to your show. 366 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,760 They've been so wonderful about emailing us and buying the CDs. And I can't tell you how thrilled 367 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,680 we are that they enjoy the music so much. So many many thanks to them. The last thing I 368 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:51,680 wanted to say is that we do still have tons of CDs available. If they're sold out on Amazon 369 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:57,360 that's just because Amazon is a huge conglomerant and they can't keep track of a little guy. 370 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:03,520 But we still have CDs available on CDBaby.com. Those ship to Europe anywhere else around the world 371 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,800 just about as well as our own Bennett Studios store that you can link to off our website. So if 372 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:15,920 you haven't gotten Christmas presents for your grandma or your five-year-old niece or your girlfriend 373 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:23,360 or your stepdad you can still do it in time. I guess we'll talk to you again after the new year. 374 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Be well, go see some good music and if you're allowed, click as much champagne as you can. Bye bye. 375 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:47,280 Thank you very much for subscribing to this podcast and check out all the latest podcasts the 376 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:55,360 last 100 ones at audio.weblogs.com and check out the directory at www.punner.org and of course 377 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:03,840 curry.com or daily source code.com. So if you want to leave me an audio comment you just 378 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:10,320 said email it off to at www.punner.com and attach it to us at www.punner.com and attach it to us at www.punner.com. 379 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,280 If it's on the fine page, then shoot me and it won't be sending me to Europe. Send me a link to that 380 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:22,640 thing. But yeah. All right, I'll be bringing you more news from Los Petales tomorrow and who knows 381 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:29,840 what else I dream about tonight. Hope you have my streams. Thank you all. Goodbye bye. 382 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:40,240 This is how I worked out on community work.