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Daily source code 123 2005, what do I do? Do I press pound or what? Is this thing on?

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On ground casting with Adam Curry. Hey everybody, it's a special weekend source code.

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Right on, sitting up here in the lovely office at Curry Cottage. Hi everybody, it is Sunday.

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It's late afternoon. Actually it's almost the evening. It's a 615.

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As promised, in lieu of Friday show, this is the weekend source code.

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Well, good news is, got back from Amsterdam.

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And the bandwidth was still here.

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So this is going to be kind of a little mellow show today.

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Since, well, I haven't really prepared much. I think we just listened to a couple things.

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But, you know, every once in a while when I come across an MP3 or a podcast or something that I like.

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I drop it into a folder on my desktop. And then when I get ready to do a source code, then I just tell my application here.

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My production suite to go scan through all the new files.

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And it pulls out all the ID3 tags and makes a little shortcut in my outline.

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But I can then copy and paste into a rundown.

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Like, you care how I do that, right?

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Anyway, so I hadn't really organized any stuff specifically to play today.

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But I found a few things. I've been playing around with Net Newswire.

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As, you know, I try to get my hands on everything eye-patter.

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Everything that looks, smells, feels like an eye-patter.

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And I'm actually in the throes of ordering a Windows machine.

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Specifically to check out a couple of eye-patter's that just won't run on a Mac and thought.

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So, playing around with Net Newswire, which I have to say, does eye-potting extremely well?

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Yeah, it doesn't have the vacation feature, any of those things.

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But it does do multiple concurrent downloads.

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But downloads, I think it's default setting is for eight files at once.

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Well, with a pipe that I've got now, I didn't even notice that it was downloading all these shows all over again.

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So that wasn't too bad.

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I-patter, the Lemon Edition apparently has come out with their beta.

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There are two-point-o-beta-one.

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I couldn't get it to run on my Mac. I submitted a bug report.

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Something with, I looked at the console log, something about, I don't know if there's some error that's wrong.

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But, of course, it's beta, so that's what it's supposed to do, right?

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So, you're supposed to be reporting errors and helping the development team out.

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Looks pretty good though, the screenshots are beautiful.

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I've really- I started to notice that there's really two main approaches to iPodders.

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And I guess the thing that- it really tip me off when I was looking at Net Newswire, like, wait a minute.

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This is- this has a whole bunch of features that I really like.

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And of course, that's an aggregator. It's been an aggregator since day one.

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And it does a really good job with just aggregating and, you know, putting stuff away, downloading special times, filtering through

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different types of fields. I mean, it really does have a lot of excellent options and rules settings.

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And yeah, it's a Swiss Army knife of Macintosh aggregators.

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Although, I do not like the three- pane approach.

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I hate having an indicator. That's what I don't like about Net Newswire.

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Now, there's an indicator in my- in my doc that says that, you know, has a little satellite icon for Net Newswire.

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And it says, it has a three on it right now, meaning that there's three new pieces of information.

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Now, I know that I'm only subscribed to podcasts and Net Newswire.

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So the place I go to look for new shows is in iTunes.

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And that's where it kind of came through, and it's like, well, wait a minute.

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There are also some iPodder developments out there that are focusing from the player side.

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iPodder X, by the way, I think, is looking a lot more at the player, although,

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I think they're pretty much using all the quick time components.

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But really, a combination of the two is what seems to be like the sweet spot.

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And I don't know if anyone's quite hit it yet, but maybe on some of the windows version that just haven't had a chance to check out.

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So definitely looking forward to seeing some of those new windows things as well.

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But Net Newswire, I'm going to try it out for a little bit more.

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And I believe that there's also an iPodder X, 2.0 beta on the way.

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So I'm excited. This is the second round of iPodder development of the first two big teams.

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So let's see what we've learned. I am really, really excited about this.

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Let's see, Sunday afternoon, early evening.

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It is, by the way, the 23rd of January 2005.

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For the first time in a long time, I looked at my calendar, and it was absolutely nothing in it for the coming week,

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although now it's filling up with the phone interviews and a couple of people want to do a photo shoot.

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Particularly now, because, well, the hair is ruined, right?

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And notice by the way that I haven't posted any pictures of that, there is good reason my friends believe me.

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And in the mail, I received, while I was an Amsterdam, I received two CDs from Dynamo's River Maces.

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You remember we talked about them, also played a track or two.

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So I actually got this from one of the band members.

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And I will put a link once again to their site in the production show notes for today's show.

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But now I have real good quality recordings. This is great stuff.

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Hold on, let me just get the, let me get them hot.

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There we go.

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Oh, shit.

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Okay, this is Dynamo's River Maces. This one is, I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

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Okay, but basically they do all these great versions of classic songs.

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Like, addicted to love dancing in the street, hit me with your rhythm stick.

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Born to run, see what a jump, ace of spades, hajo, my generation.

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So all pod safe music and obviously stuff that we'll be playing for, well, I think about 24 tracks there.

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I can play a lot of this on the source code for the next coming shows.

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And every single one is a hit, done just a little bit differently.

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I think you'll like it.

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This is a classic by Queen brought to you my Dynamo's River Maces.

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Tonight, well, I'm going to have myself a real good sign.

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Because I feel alive, man. I feel alive.

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Like, I can take the world.

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I'm just turning inside out, baby, and floating around in ecstasy.

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So don't stop me now.

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Don't stop me, man.

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Because I'm having a good sign, I'm having a good sign.

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I don't want to stop at all.

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So don't stop me.

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Man, I'm like a refugee.

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But don't wait a month.

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I'm a collision cause.

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I'm like a satellite.

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You've got an out of control.

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I'm a refugee.

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Ready to do reload.

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Not good at bomb.

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I got a, got a, got a, got a man who got his vote.

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It's not me, it's not me, it's not me, it's not me, it's not me

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Bloody record, the usual city

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First time I heard that it did freak me out. I was like oh shit, something stuck

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There was a future tense that came through the other aperture through that out shit. That was stupid

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There was a future tense that I was talking about the record scratch and that even though the record scratch that

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That's you know a needle being dragged off of a record even though that's one of the most used sound effects in advertising today

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Seeing if I still have it somewhere here

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They did a survey and they asked a whole bunch of kids if they knew what that sound was they went

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Yeah, that's from the commercial they had never heard of it actually scratching on a record

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Let me see if I have that it was

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I bet you don't have that anymore shoot

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Future tense. Oh, maybe this is it. Hold on. It'll be great if I still had that one. Let's check it out first

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Libraries get hip to really simple syndication. No, this is future

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That wasn't that shoot

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Shoot, let me just check iTunes for a second. I bet you I tossed that out

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Okay, I'm probably get the yeah now it's gone darn

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That would have been great to play for you right now

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It was on the media anyway. I'll look it up for you. Okay, it was it was a podcast. That's for sure

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That I do remember here's something that came across I think open podcast.org it showed up in my iTunes

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And it's almost like poetry, but it was pretty good. It's about it's called Dead TV

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It's done by Jenny Gillespie Gillespie

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It speaks it speaks for itself. Let's sit back and chill. It's about two and a half minutes, but you won't want to fast forward because it's it's good

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Life TV is an even live TV. It's so dead to me. So orchestrated so seamlessly so perfectly. I'm telling you it's dead TV

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Our perfect people they brush their teeth before they go on the air someone somewhere counts down from five to one

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Making their colgate smile shine on like the sun and over their paper props and coffee mugs painted a stylish navy blue

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They deliver us the news with delicate creases and their dry clean sports jackets and their neat little bundles of free striped telecast packets

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They have appropriate faces and tones for all their heart wrenching recitals with a rather catchy title that rhymes of course

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About some golden retriever dancing for the sick kids that we who and we are over because you know that stories vital

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But not so urgent so meaningful so necessary that we can't lay our heads down on our pillows and sleep that night leaving behind us the senses sympathy

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We like to portray to star new day where no one else matters but ourselves

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But those people from the news God damn they have it's so great

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They're everyone super hero everyone's best friend our favorite face on our cable access station

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They're so trustworthy so reliable. They have that that chronic dedication

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They have the stuff that it takes to relate 45 minutes worth of truth and nothing but

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Okay, maybe there's a bud there's you know societies buy a certain in there to spice it up a bit

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But I mean they have plastic hair like burvey dolls and spray paint and make up it's fucking impenetrable

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So what's the new fat in the news today politics or politics and when it comes down to it we could care less really

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We want a generic black man with a sought off shotgun running rampant and someone else is suburban streets killing him some

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Blonde hair blue eyed chair leaders so sweet. We want the story. We want it concrete

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Who cares about the sources or if the you know facts are incomplete?

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We'll put it on repeat on every fucking channel until everyone from the Pope to your grandmother wants to donate just 50 cents to the cause

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So the informed public will raise you up in a plus the thank you being a great aid citizen

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That's simply just a perp

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Great stuff, huh? Yeah, first time I heard that I was like wow

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That's good Jenny Gillespie don't know anything about her. I presume she wrote it herself

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But don't like that very much when I heard it

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A lot of people pointed me towards this podcast from what is it?

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This show has no name is the name of the podcast

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I pointed to it in the production show notes

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It's got a home page stop macadress

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So it shouldn't be a problem if you want to download the show

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Because I know that sometimes when I mention someone's podcast and we get it like a little mini slash dot effect

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Not that there's so many people that I'm sending over your way, but

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Because the files are so big

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Anyway, I listened to it and I was like wow, you know

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Here's a guy who listens to the daily source code every single day and a second tired of me

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Finally, I'm sure there's more out there

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But he put it in a podcast something I totally, totally appreciate

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And I thought we'd listen to it together because there's some interesting things in here that I'm sure other people are thinking

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They're maybe a few misconceptions and some things, I think he's probably right about

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A couple of the things I want to talk about is that I want to make it official now that I'm pretty much sick of Adam Curry

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Okay, I'm glad you made that official, that's a good start

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I'm sick of him in general, I'm sick of his podcast

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Even though I listen to it all the time and I'm relatively addicted to it

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And there's some couple things that I'm really bothered by

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And mainly because, you know, everybody's pretty nice

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And he seems like a nice guy, but it's really his podcast, it's kind of bothered me more than anything

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Okay, I've seen like a nice guy only when I'm podcasting, which is the only way he knows me

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That's not starting to bother me

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And it's just that not that I want to be sour grapes or anything

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But you know what, drum cadence suck

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Okay, let me just put that out there

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There was maybe one or two that was pretty good

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I understand that he's having a hard time because you can't get any good RIA

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No, no, that's not true. No, I'm receiving more drum cadences than any other music period

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That's why I think playing so much of it

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Actually, I haven't played a lot in the past week and a half to be free music and that's running

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But the drum kids, just they just got to go

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I mean, really, you know

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Dude, fast forward, that's all, he'll show you how it works

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So the 10 that's a drum case

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That's not that cool, I'm sorry

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I found myself just skipping through the whole thing

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Right, this thing is just that

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You know, I'm so sick of those serious bitties

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Maybe he's got some sort of a financial thing

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He keeps saying that he is a businessman

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And I think that people keep forgetting that in their days

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Oh, hold on a second, hold on a second

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First of all, I have absolutely no financial arrangement or any type of deal

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whatsoever with any of the list of his bitties

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Except they have promised me a big hug when we meet up in New York

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That they have promised

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Because believe me, dude

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I think that's something I would have to disclose

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Right, like tell you about

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Believe me, I would tell you if I had any financial gain

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But yes, I am a businessman, absolutely

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And I love it when I see people who are already doing business

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Like those serious bitties

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Do more business because of something really simple

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Mainly people who like their music or play in their music and podcast

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So I see that as a good thing

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That's a ties by the fact that he's going to find a way to make money

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Either this podcast and thing

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He's going to milk it for his good

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Oh, all right, okay

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And you know what that's probably what they said

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Well, okay, yes, of course

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Of course, I'm going to milk it to death, damn it

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Oh, wow

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If you know how

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Please put that in your podcast so I can start milking

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And I think that's something that people should be very aware of

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And understand that the reason he's so pumped about this

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Because he sees a monetary opportunity there

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The reason this all got started was out of frustration

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Because I wanted to get pod cat or MP3 files onto my iPod

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It was no absolutely no fine

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In fact, I tried to pay people to do that for me

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But I have to admit

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That there's totally

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A lot of interest from the business community

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From the financial community

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A lot of people are saying, hey, how can we monetize this

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Am I looking, of course I'm looking

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To have ideas, of course I have ideas

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Of course I do, is that wrong?

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Apparently

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It's reminds me so much of

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When I started out

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With something I called cyber sleeves

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And I was promoting that on my radio shows

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And it's actually this was before mtv.com

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And I remember that all the, not all

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But the, the quote community at the time

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Was very against the commercial internet

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It was like, you know, commercial was bad

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It's not going to happen

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It's going to fight against it, will hack you to death

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It sounds like the same thing, you know

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It's like, of course someone's going to

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Commercialize parts of pod casting

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I heard someone say, I don't know where it was

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I think it was maybe it was a pod cat

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I'm thinking, I'm going to say pod cast brothers

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Because it was a brilliant analogy

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That whenever there's a, there's a gold rush

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The people who always make the money

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Are the outfitters

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So that's the people who supply the horses

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The wagons, the donkeys

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The shovels, the spades, you know, the tents

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Whatever, of course

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And we really don't have a pod casting service

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Yeah, do we, this is one of the things of course

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That we've been looking at

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And what does that entail?

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I think the number one place to make money right now

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Is helping people make pod casts

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I don't think there's a lot of people making money

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On their pod casts right now

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Nor is it clear if they will

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I got some ideas

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But yeah, of course I'm looking at ways to make money

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But I'm not hiding that

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I'm not doing the source code

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Because I have some genius plan

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That's going to make me billions of dollars

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Through that show alone

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I like doing it dude

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And don't be lulled

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Into thinking that this guy

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Who is now

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God, I've seen it now on

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In a macadic magazine

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I've seen it in New York Times

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I've seen it on ABC

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I've seen it everywhere

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Because they all call me up

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And ask me for interviews

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It actually takes a lot of time

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And I don't have an actual job at the moment

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We'll talk about that in a second

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I'm sure

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So I could make time

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Which I think is also help

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Propel pod casting

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For good or for bad

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He's going to make money off of this

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Oh, I can't wait

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And you and me are probably not going to do that

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You and me presuming me the listener

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The way to me

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You just told me I was

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But as a listener, I'm not

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Mainly because we're probably a really well-versed

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And making money off of something like this

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Dude, I've never made money off of anything like this

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Let me tell you how I made my money

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Okay

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I might be good

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I started

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Actually, it did start a content company

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Called OnRamp

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And we had actually Metaverse.com

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And we had cyber sleeves

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And we had a whole bunch of cool sites

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This is around the time that addicted to noise

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It was also a

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Some of you might remember that website

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That was purchased later by MTV

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And we were making content for

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Re-box for Budweiser

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For continental airlines

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For Procter and Gamble

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Hey, we did tampax.com

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The website you'll want to visit more than once a month

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We haven't fun

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And we just started going more and more into the service side of stuff

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She's going to be providing services for companies

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At the time when you could charge $40,000

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For what I knew eventually

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And what now are indeed tools that cost $40

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And so we did a good job

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We worked really hard for about five years

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And we sold the company in 1999

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Always made a profit

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At the end of our tenure

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There I say ours, my partner Ron

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We had a pay roll of $65 million

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And we always made pay roll

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And we were profitable and we had

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Happy clients

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And we did good work

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We were advertising agency basically

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And I made money on that

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But the real money I made came from lucky investments

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And the real money I lost by the way

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I also lost a lot of money came from unlucky investments

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But that's his goal

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And I think...

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No, no, sorry, that's so my goal is not to make money

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My goal is to...

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Well, to have fun doing whatever I'm doing

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And if possible

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Make the world a better place while we do it

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And fuck yeah, I'd like to get paid

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Doesn't everybody?

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I mean, everyone has bandwidth bills

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Has, you know, your time is worth something

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And either you say this is 100% hobby for me

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Or you say, hey, I'm going to try and make something out of this

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Not in wrong with that

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Yeah, as much as he would like to be

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Befriending all these other people

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Well, no, I am actually befriending people

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Because I make friends pretty easily

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And I would pretty good track record with friends

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You can look it up dude

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And whether it's he wants to be the little

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Sivius Bitties Manager or whatever that

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I don't...

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I wish, God damn

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I'd love to be their manager

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Hmm, I think they have that all sold up

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I actually, I was talking to Leon

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I've got you such an angelic voice

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Even on the phone she sounds so, so pretty

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And she was telling me about, oh, we just shoot in the shit actually

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And I said, well, you know, because they were interviewed by CBS

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For the CV, I don't know when this piece is going to air

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But it should be reasonably soon, I guess

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And I was so happy for it

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And I said, you know, you're going to get calls pretty soon

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And stuff's going to happen, she said, oh, we, you know, we have had such a luxury over

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They've been doing it for like seven or eight years

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They really have all their finances, their legal stuff

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It's all, I mean, not that they have a lot of finances

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But it's, they have that all set

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And I said, anything you need, let me know

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Dude, of course I'd like to be their manager

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But that's not why I'm playing their songs

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Because I'd like their songs, that's why

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But I think that that's something that is

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Is true in call speed of speed

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You know, and any...

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You know, he's, he's alluded to that

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He said, you know, hey, he's a businessman

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He's the most big money, there's nothing wrong with that

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But don't be low than the thinking that

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He's just this super nice guy that's just trying to

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Really help everybody out

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Yeah, I actually believe it or not

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I mean, I'd be a super nice guy

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But I do like to help everybody out

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And I think that by helping each other

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We'll be able to figure some stuff out

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And actually maybe, you know, work together on some things

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That could be fun to work on or could generate revenue together

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Or kinds of stuff, but I'm not like

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Something like job and life to go around

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You know, sucking up to people

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And getting to be my friends

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And then go make money off of them

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Which of course we haven't established exactly how to do that

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I think in a lot of ways you may be

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But I think in the back of his money he's going to say

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You know what?

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I kind of think money at this

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I mean, just look at the sound scene thing

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Hey, baby

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Hey

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I'm doing a podcast

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New?

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Umm Hmm

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How much time would I have?

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Are you ready right now?

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Okay, what should I do?

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So till the audience, or I've put them on paws

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Or should I put its good stuff right now?

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Should I put the audience on paws?

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Yeah

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Alright everybody, you're going on paws

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I'm going to have dinner

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Come back and we'll continue

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Do do do want

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Right, okay

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So I'm back

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That was two and a half hours ago that we last spoke.

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Okay.

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You get the fast forward.

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I get to hit the pause button once in a while.

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And actually it's pretty good because I was thinking,

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but after dinner, Patricia and I were watching,

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we were watching, and Tiggs Roadshow.

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Love that show.

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Of course, it's not really about the antiques or the objects that they display.

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It's what's worth.

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That's the game, right?

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Okay.

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I think that's going to be worth about,

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and probably about 3,400,

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and then once when you get the 10,000 pound valuable item,

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whatever.

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And then Patricia Files sleep, so I went to clean up the kitchen.

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And I was thinking about the comment about the Sylvia's Bitties.

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And I was thinking, you know, what is it that I like so much?

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And I thought back to the early 80s when I was just really getting into top 40 radio.

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It was, you know, there was still an opportunity back then to actually play a song that you thought,

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and I think it was like once an hour in most formats that that I worked with,

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at most radio stations.

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Not really in the, yeah, it was very early 80s.

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At least had one song an hour that you could kind of, you know,

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fuzzle around or legally play as one of your own picks.

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And before that, you know, we used to just, you know,

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bring whatever, whatever the hell we wanted to play,

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but of course those weren't very commercially successful radio stations,

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which will tell you a lot about, you know,

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what needs to be done to become commercially successful.

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But, and it could be anything, particularly in Holland,

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where I started my radio career,

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and Bruce Springsteen never really caught on big in the chart.

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And I say chart because back then, you know, there was a chart,

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it was the top 40.

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And then, of course, we got the, the top 50,

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and then the top 40 album and singles and airplane.

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And these days, you have the top download chart.

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So there's no real authority, you know, it's a,

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but that used to be very simple.

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It was compiled based upon actual sales figures.

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But also, some audience research was put in there.

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And it was, it was a, it was a good chart.

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And you could get it, you know, and if you played a song

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and then some of the other DJs from other stations

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or your own station would also play that song,

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then it could get some momentum, you know,

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and then you'd break an artist.

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And that was something that we were proud of, you know,

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it's like dude.

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And I've actually broken a couple artists in Holland

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that people will attribute to me.

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I laughed because Renee Froker is probably,

487
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the one that became most famous after I,

488
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:41,500
I broke him as an artist.

489
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:43,500
It sounds weird, doesn't it?

490
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:45,500
It's like a real industry term.

491
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:46,500
I broke you, boy.

492
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:50,500
He's kind of like the Dutch Engelbert Humperding.

493
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,500
So that's why I'm chuckling.

494
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,500
But anyway, I digress.

495
00:29:57,500 --> 00:29:59,500
I was had a joint after dinner.

496
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:00,500
I forgot to mention that.

497
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:02,500
So that's why you get like.

498
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:05,500
Okay.

499
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:09,500
So, but it really was all about, you know,

500
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:11,500
it was just pride.

501
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,500
And then it would be even better if that artist went on

502
00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:16,500
to get a gold record.

503
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:19,500
And, you know, somewhere down the line,

504
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:22,500
you would actually be presented with something like that,

505
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,500
like a gold record or platinum record or whatever.

506
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:28,500
And it says, you know, thanks for your thanks for contributing

507
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:32,500
to the success of the album or the artist or whatever,

508
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:34,500
depending on what your contribution was.

509
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:35,500
Literally.

510
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:36,500
And there was no money that passed hands.

511
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:38,500
You know, this is just a part of a thing that happened.

512
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:40,500
And it just started to roll and snowball.

513
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:44,500
And, you know, and something would catch on.

514
00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:47,500
And then the audience would catch on and it just goes, right?

515
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:49,500
But sometimes songs need a little bit more.

516
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:53,500
And you know, I guess they're more complex or something or whatever.

517
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:57,500
So, as I was saying, Bruce Springsteen was something that

518
00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:00,500
buddy and I broke in Holland.

519
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:03,500
It was dancing in the dark.

520
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:06,500
It just wasn't catching on.

521
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:09,500
But there's been, you know, lots of examples like that.

522
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:13,500
And even at MTV in the very early days when I was there,

523
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:15,500
which was still the 80s, you know,

524
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:17,500
you could still kind of have some kind of influence.

525
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:18,500
But it just went away.

526
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:21,500
And also, the gold record started going to everybody,

527
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:24,500
like the sales guy and, you know, the station manager,

528
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:25,500
and became more cheesy.

529
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:29,500
And, you know, more like production work, nothing,

530
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,500
it used to be that you could actually play these records.

531
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:34,500
They would be the, they weren't really, well,

532
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:35,500
they were dipped in gold, I think.

533
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:39,500
But most of them, the original records that were given to, you know,

534
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:43,500
given to the artist based upon huge amounts of sales,

535
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:49,500
were the mother or father masters when they were still pressing records.

536
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,500
And you could actually take them out and play them.

537
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:55,500
You have to play them backwards, though,

538
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:59,500
because it's a reverse of what you'd actually have in the vinyl.

539
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:03,500
And Patricia has a lot of the original type of gold records.

540
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:07,500
And one time by my radio show, we took one out of the casing

541
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:09,500
and played it backwards.

542
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:11,500
And it actually was the real record.

543
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:15,500
But I never got the casing back together the way it was intended to be.

544
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:17,500
So I'm not allowed to demonstrate that anymore.

545
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:21,500
I've been banned from touching the gold records and rightly so.

546
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:25,500
But anyway, it's nothing about, you know,

547
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:29,500
about wanting to do anything more than just have that feeling.

548
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:31,500
That's a great feeling when it works.

549
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:35,500
And that, I guess that's what kind of, what,

550
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:38,500
what, that's what the kick is about that.

551
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:41,500
I get out of playing the civvies, bitis, and bitis,

552
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:43,500
and hearing people catch on and like it,

553
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:46,500
and watching them get famous.

554
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:49,500
You know what?

555
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,500
I'm tired of this.

556
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:52,500
Let's do something else.

557
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:53,500
We do live from your headphones.

558
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:55,500
It's asked Uncle Know It All.

559
00:32:55,500 --> 00:33:02,500
Hello everyone and welcome to this week's edition of Ask Uncle Know It All.

560
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:06,500
This week's question comes to us from Sex Kitten, who asks?

561
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:08,500
Dear Uncle Know It All.

562
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:12,500
I'm writing because I'm wondering, what's the deal with the cowbell?

563
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:14,500
Thanks so much.

564
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:15,500
Hugs and kisses.

565
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:16,500
Love you.

566
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:17,500
Sex Kitten.

567
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:19,500
Well, Sex Kitten.

568
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:21,500
Sometime ago, VH1 aired a documentary

569
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:24,500
of the blue oyster cult in studio recording their hit song,

570
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:26,500
don't fear the reaper.

571
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:28,500
While they were recording, Bruce Dickinson made comments

572
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:30,500
about how he loved the cowbell sound

573
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:32,500
who, done by one of the band members.

574
00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:35,500
Now, this caused something of a stir in the current music industry.

575
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:37,500
And as a result of this footage,

576
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:40,500
next March, Virgin Records is releasing the cowbell collection,

577
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:43,500
which is a collection of both old and new songs

578
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:45,500
featuring Greg Groups on cowbell.

579
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:48,500
Now, if managed to secure an advanced copy of this CD,

580
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:51,500
and I'll be playing a couple of samples for you.

581
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:53,500
Our first sample is,

582
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:56,500
Stip Tiffany's recorded by Deep Blue Something.

583
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:07,500
This next song was recorded by Metallica,

584
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:09,500
entitled Enter Sandman.

585
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:10,500
And last but not least,

586
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:11,500
we have gin and juice,

587
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:13,500
courtesy of Grandmaster Rapa, Snoop Dogg.

588
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,500
As you can see, or rather, here,

589
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:22,500
the cowbell can be used with a variety of different music styles.

590
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:25,500
In fact, there's only one style of music that the cowbell

591
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:26,500
cannot help.

592
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:27,500
It's not that easy.

593
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:29,500
It's not that easy.

594
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:32,500
As you can see, or rather, here,

595
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:35,500
the cowbell can be used with a variety of different music styles.

596
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:38,500
In fact, there's only one style of music that the cowbell

597
00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:40,500
cannot help, and that's country,

598
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:43,500
because nothing can help country music.

599
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,500
Now, inside sources also tell me that

600
00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:49,500
P. Diddy will be releasing a new album entitled

601
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:50,500
Cowbell in the Hizzles,

602
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,500
which features remakes of every song

603
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,500
on the Cowbell collection.

604
00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:57,500
And that about wraps it up for this week.

605
00:34:57,500 --> 00:34:59,500
Don't forget, send me your questions,

606
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:01,500
your questions, make the show.

607
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,500
You can email Soundclips or just type the question

608
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:04,500
if you prefer.

609
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:08,500
The email address is Uncle Know It All at gmail.com.

610
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:09,500
Thanks.

611
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,500
On Cowboy Casting with Adam Curry.

612
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:48,750
[ Music ]

613
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:52,500
Well, you might as well jump.

614
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:55,500
Go ahead and jump.

615
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:57,500
Man, I'll say jump.

616
00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:00,500
Go ahead and jump.

617
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:31,500
[ Music ]

618
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:36,500
I said jump, jump, go ahead and jump

619
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:41,500
People I said jump, jump, go ahead and jump

620
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:43,500
Hold jump the whole time

621
00:36:43,750 --> 00:37:11,500
[ Music ]

622
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:18,500
Hold jump, go ahead and jump

623
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:21,500
Oh, they're a classic difference

624
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:23,500
Say you might as well jump

625
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:26,500
You're head and jump

626
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:28,500
Come on and jump

627
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:31,500
Go ahead and jump

628
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:33,500
Man I said jump

629
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:36,500
Go ahead and jump

630
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:37,500
Come on, now jump

631
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:40,500
Time is rhythm and sense

632
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:43,500
And then all I know for today's daily source code

633
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:47,500
Actually, this special one we can make up for this new source code

634
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,500
How's the difference?

635
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:53,500
How's the difference?

636
00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:55,500
Yeah, I've got to play more of those guys.

637
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:56,500
I say rock.

638
00:37:56,500 --> 00:37:57,500
All right, everybody, that's it.

639
00:37:57,500 --> 00:37:58,500
Have a good weekend.

640
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:00,500
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

641
00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:02,500
Or maybe you're just getting this.

642
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:03,500
And it's already Monday morning.

643
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:05,500
So then you have another source code on the way later on.

644
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:08,500
I'm going to leave it for this for now.

645
00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:09,500
Of course, comments.

646
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:11,500
I don't have to worry.com.

647
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:12,500
If you've got an MP3 comment,

648
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:14,500
send it to MP3 feedback at gmail.com.

649
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:16,500
And of course, comments on the web

650
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:18,500
longer, always run.

651
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:19,500
Some power.

652
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:20,500
Some power.

653
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:21,500
Some power.

654
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,500
www.create.com.

655
00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:46,250
[ Music ]

656
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Thanks for watching.
