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Hi everybody, this is the Triple P, Patricia Pie podcast.

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It has taken me many, many moons, my friends, to get, it's always hard, to get Patricia into

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the studio here at the cottage.

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Many people have requested, we play more of her songs, listen to more of her story, and

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this is the only show where your biggest fan gets to ask you questions and play your music.

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And that's you?

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That's me.

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Oh, that's so sweet.

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Well, thank you for having me, Mr. Curry.

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Yes.

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And you know why I never want to do this, because I don't like to look back.

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You know that.

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Yeah, but...

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You never hear me talk about it or...

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No, never ever.

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No, I know.

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So how come...

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Always look ahead.

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So let's start right now.

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Why did you decide to do the podcast?

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Because you're asking me.

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I know.

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Knife on the throat.

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That's all it took, is someone to ask you?

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That's all?

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And you helped me in the kitchen?

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Oh, okay.

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You did.

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I noticed.

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So can I start off with one of my favorite songs that you've done?

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Because, you know what?

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We have like four CDs, which is probably 5% of all the music you've made.

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Yes.

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It's just ridiculous.

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Yeah.

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How come you didn't look after your shit, man?

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You should have at least kept the CDs.

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See, that's why you're always yelling at me.

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No, no, no.

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Because I made a lot of records.

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How many do you make?

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What's a lot?

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What's a lot?

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I think 75 to 100 records.

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Albums and CDs?

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No.

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And then say about 30 to 40 albums.

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No shit.

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So you have hundreds of songs?

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Yes.

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Maybe even like a thousand?

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Sometimes people play me something and I don't even know it's me or I know the song.

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I don't even know the song.

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I know.

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It's happened to me a couple of times on the hit test.

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It's scary.

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If you meet people who know the lyrics or sing along and I think, shit, that's strange.

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And I will tell you later what happens in my dreams because of this.

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Is that the one with the hookers?

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No.

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Okay.

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I'm going to start off with, this is the genre I like that you do best.

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Yeah, this is actually, I started with this sort of music because my daddy is a band leader.

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You've got a little Ella there at the end.

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Excuse me, put the mic in front of your mouth.

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Ella was my favorite.

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So when I started to sing these sort of songs, I was 15 years old.

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15, and when I was 17, I went to the nightclub where my dad's band played.

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And in the weekend, I did some songs in the nightclub.

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And how old were you, 15?

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I was 17 then.

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Actually too young, because you're not allowed in the nightclub.

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You weren't allowed to work officially?

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No, no, no, no.

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So that was recorded in, I think, 2001?

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Yeah, I did it again with my dad's band.

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My dad is now, what is he, 78?

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No, he's 79.

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In 1978, he will be 79 this year.

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And the band that you just heard, they're all grandfathers.

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They're all his friends.

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Those guys are like half dead, I remember that.

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This is sort of a hobby band, and they still make beautiful music.

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So you see that it doesn't matter how old you are,

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you can always play music and make music and it's lovely.

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So that's why I wanted to record it, because it's wonderful.

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78, maybe.

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There was even one guy, 80.

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Was that the guy that couldn't show up one day for recording,

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because they had...

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Yeah, how is that in English?

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Dottere.

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What is the word?

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They had to go to the hospital to let his veins,

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like they cleaned the veins.

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I can't think of the word.

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Drew's heart, I don't know.

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Dutch is Dottere.

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Yeah, pump up the volume.

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Yeah, that was good though.

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They're so sweet if you see guys playing.

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And that was on a Special Collector's Edition EP.

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Actually, it's a very special CD, because it only has four songs on it.

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Hold on, I have it here in iTunes.

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We recorded it actually, especially for friends and family,

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and just give it away to them.

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And a little known fact is that on the CD,

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the title for Misty and a Foggy Day have been reversed.

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Yes, that was wrong.

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Like 1500 CDs were the wrong track titles.

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Exactly, yeah.

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I love that though, I love it.

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And that makes me think of the time you sang with Tony Bennett.

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I don't have that recording unfortunate.

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That was only on CD.

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No, we have it on tape, on videotape.

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Your parents have that?

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No, we have it.

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We have it here?

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We have it too.

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What, on VHS or something?

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Probably, yeah, yeah.

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And it was a very famous program in Holland that we had with Pim Jakobs,

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one of the best jazz musicians.

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Yeah, lots of people know Pim Jakobs and jazz.

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Yeah, and Rochie van Otlo, one of the, what is it?

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Conductor.

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Conductors of beautiful big band.

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Tony Bennett was in the show that evening.

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And I had to sing a duet with him, I remember.

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And the song that they chose, I didn't like.

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Well, you did two songs, didn't you do two songs?

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Yeah, I did two songs myself and I had to sing a duet with Tony Bennett.

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Yeah.

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And I hated that song.

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And didn't you tell him that?

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Yes, I said, I'm not going to sing.

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Even if it's with you, I'm not going to sing it.

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I hate it.

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You said that to Tony Bennett?

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Yeah.

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And what did you say?

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Yo.

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I said, no, I don't like it.

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And so we skipped it.

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We didn't do it.

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What song did you wind up doing?

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No, we did.

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At the end, we all sang a sort of a song together.

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So you actually, you didn't really sing a full duet with Tony Bennett

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because you didn't like the song?

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No.

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You don't even remember what song it was?

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But he made a beautiful drawing for me.

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That's true.

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And I still have it.

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You still have that?

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Yeah.

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He's quite a painter and a very nice man.

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And he said to me, I heard that you are actually a rock singer.

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He said, but don't ever do that with your voice.

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This is what you should do.

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Yeah.

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I agree.

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Fuckin' A. Tony's right.

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But this music is wonderful.

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You can always sing it.

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You can always, even, it doesn't matter how old you are.

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I hope this music will always stay.

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Even with Frank Sinatra gone.

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Don't you think so?

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Oh yeah.

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And we really miss him.

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Don't we miss him?

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Absolutely.

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Fuckin' Lutely.

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Remember we saw him, one of his last shows at the Meadowlands in New Jersey?

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We did.

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Aren't we lucky?

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And it was canceled because he felt ill.

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And we thought, oh shit, man.

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I was gonna fucking die.

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He was really bad at that time.

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He was on the ropes.

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I've seen him twice.

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I'm so happy.

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Yeah.

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I wish I'd seen the one at Madison Square Garden that they did the live recording.

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We've seen the one with Liza Minnelli.

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We saw the one with Liza Minnelli.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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She was pretty sober.

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She was pretty good actually.

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Yeah.

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But not anymore.

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Now she's, the voice you got, ah, ah, ah, ah.

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When they do that, you know, it's screwed.

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It's all over.

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It's screwed.

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Yeah.

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So what most people don't know is that you don't sing.

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What?

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I mean, well, you don't sing.

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You don't sing around the house.

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No.

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I mean, once in a while maybe.

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No.

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I only sing for money.

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Exactly.

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Now, I think you should explain this because it's very hard for people to understand,

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even for me actually.

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I mean, if I could sing like you, I would be all over the place.

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I'd be like, yo.

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Well, there are all sorts of performances.

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Performers, I think.

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Mm-hmm.

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And because my dad is a musician that had to work really hard to take care of his family.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so I didn't know what to become and what to do.

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And I thought, oh, I'm going to be a singer then.

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Yeah.

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So because we all got something of music in our bodies.

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And so I started to sing.

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But in these days, you, especially in clubs and in hotels and everything,

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Germany and Belgium and Holland, that was for the money.

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And that's how I started.

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And then when suddenly somebody…

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It was just a job.

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Yeah, it was a job.

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It was just my job.

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I didn't know what to do, what kind of job.

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I thought, okay, then I'll do it.

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But didn't you like it too?

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I loved it.

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There were moments that I really enjoyed it.

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But there were a lot of moments I hated it.

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Okay.

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Let's start with the enjoying moments.

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Well, you know, if you have wonderful audience and people are really swinging along

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and looking at you like, wow, you know, there was a great evening

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because we enjoyed the music so much.

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But you had also evenings that people were very drunk,

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didn't hear anything, were talking really loud.

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And that's horrible.

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Then sound comes out of your mouth.

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But what do you like more?

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Do you like performing, recording, writing?

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What I always liked was recording.

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Right, that makes sense.

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So coming up with ideas, doing backups.

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And I love that.

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Although they say I'm a very good performer.

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I can really…

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How do you say that?

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You can rock the house, baby.

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Put on a show.

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I'm trying to think what we should play next.

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I mean, we have four CDs, hold on.

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Well, if we have to go through the whole story, it takes very long.

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Oh, no, we'll never be able to do that.

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Well, maybe we'll do it in parts.

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Yeah, we'll do another one another time.

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But we need more music.

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I mean, I have…

270
00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,640
What do I have here?

271
00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,640
I have…

272
00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,640
But I have to tell them, actually.

273
00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,640
At least 50 songs.

274
00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,640
So they know how it happened.

275
00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,640
When I was performing one of the biggest night clubs in Amsterdam,

276
00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,640
a very famous guy.

277
00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,640
I don't even know what the name is,

278
00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,640
but I remember it was…

279
00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,640
That's how long ago it is.

280
00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,640
Wait a minute.

281
00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,640
This was…

282
00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,640
You were 16 at the time?

283
00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,640
No, no, no.

284
00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:16,640
I think 17.

285
00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,640
I played also the fiber phone.

286
00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,640
I keep…

287
00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,640
The what?

288
00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,640
The fiber phone.

289
00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:22,640
I have one of those in my pocket.

290
00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:23,640
No, no, no, no.

291
00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:24,640
The fiber phone.

292
00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:25,640
Is that the word?

293
00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,640
Is that like a xylophone?

294
00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,640
We did George Shearing songs.

295
00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,640
I remember that.

296
00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,640
So I was singing and I was playing.

297
00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,640
And we were playing in that nightclub.

298
00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:40,640
And one of the biggest agents from Europe,

299
00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,640
and especially Amsterdam was his office,

300
00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,640
came in with a guy from the TV.

301
00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,640
And they saw me.

302
00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:48,640
I don't know why he…

303
00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,640
They came specially for me.

304
00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,640
Who was that?

305
00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,640
Lufa Reis?

306
00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,640
Yeah, Lufa Reis, who always…

307
00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,640
Yeah, he was a big supporter of you.

308
00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,640
Yeah, I invited Shirley Bassey these days.

309
00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,640
Oh, right.

310
00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,640
He was the impresario.

311
00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,640
Impressario.

312
00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,640
That's how you called it.

313
00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,640
And he came with a guy, Willem Daus.

314
00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,640
Oh, Willem Daus, right?

315
00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:06,640
Yeah, Willem Daus.

316
00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,640
He was a talk show host.

317
00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,640
A talk show host.

318
00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,640
The Johnny Carson from Holland, right?

319
00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,640
They came in and they saw me and they said,

320
00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,640
Kit, do you have a record deal yet?

321
00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:15,640
Really?

322
00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,640
No, I wasn't even thinking about that.

323
00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,640
Really?

324
00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,640
And I said, well, we're going to do that.

325
00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,640
We're going to go to one of the record companies yet.

326
00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:24,640
You need a deal.

327
00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,640
So, and that's how it started.

328
00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:26,640
So they became your managers?

329
00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,640
Your pimps?

330
00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:28,640
Yeah, they became, yes.

331
00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,640
Your pimps?

332
00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:30,640
Yeah.

333
00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,640
And from that moment on, I was actually famous.

334
00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,640
And it never stopped.

335
00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:38,640
Cool.

336
00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,640
That's why we escaped.

337
00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,640
No, they were sitting here in the cottage.

338
00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,640
Hold on one second.

339
00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:45,640
Don't go away.

340
00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,640
Okay.

341
00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,640
So the delay is a little less now.

342
00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:49,640
All right.

343
00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,640
Okay.

344
00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,640
So, and that would be the song, You Bit Need Hip.

345
00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,640
Yeah.

346
00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:55,640
So that was your first mega smash.

347
00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,640
I was singing this sort of music that we just heard.

348
00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,640
Like, you know, Misty and all sort of beautiful standard.

349
00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,640
And they said, well, you cannot sing that.

350
00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,640
But we don't need that.

351
00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,640
We just want to sell records.

352
00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,640
So you need to.

353
00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,640
Oh, what a concept.

354
00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,640
And in these days, the language, like the Dutch language was very

355
00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,640
in to sing songs in Dutch.

356
00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,640
And I thought she wants to sing in Dutch.

357
00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,640
Fuck that.

358
00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,640
It's horrible.

359
00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,640
You know, even speaking in Dutch.

360
00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,640
It's tougher to sing in Dutch than English.

361
00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,640
It is.

362
00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,640
Yeah.

363
00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,640
So it's not even nice to listen to people talking Dutch, let alone

364
00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:33,640
singing Dutch.

365
00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,640
It sounds like we're throwing up all the time.

366
00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:36,640
Yeah.

367
00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,640
So, but I had to make a record.

368
00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,640
They said, you know, do it.

369
00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,640
That's what the people want.

370
00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,640
So I made, I remember singing a song.

371
00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,640
It's called You Bit Need Hip, which was a horrible song.

372
00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,640
I don't think I have that one.

373
00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,640
And I said, you know what?

374
00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,640
I hate it so much.

375
00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,640
I will sing it once.

376
00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,640
And then I will walk out of this studio.

377
00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,640
You were always a problem child, weren't you?

378
00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,640
Always, yeah.

379
00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,640
Oh, wait, oh no.

380
00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,640
I have the cover version.

381
00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,640
Oh, no, no, no.

382
00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,640
We don't want to play that.

383
00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,640
We don't want to play that.

384
00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,640
But anyway, I sang that song.

385
00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,640
And they put me, they didn't even bother to pull the mic down

386
00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,640
because I was, you know, I'm short.

387
00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,640
And so they put me on a little stool so I can,

388
00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,640
it came a little bit higher.

389
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,640
And that's how I sang it just once.

390
00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:23,640
And it was a huge hit.

391
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,640
And I said, I hate it.

392
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,640
I said, I'm going to sing it once.

393
00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:26,640
That's it.

394
00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,640
One take and do whatever you want to do with it.

395
00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,640
And it became one of the biggest hits in Holland.

396
00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,640
And I hate it.

397
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,640
It's in every jukebox.

398
00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,640
People get drunk and they play this song.

399
00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,640
Okay.

400
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:38,640
So you won't play that one?

401
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,640
No.

402
00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,640
Why don't we play the one that, because I really didn't know you.

403
00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,640
Isn't it always like that?

404
00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,640
Oh, the piece of shit throw away becomes the biggest hit.

405
00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:46,640
The piece of shit is always the biggest hit.

406
00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,640
Yeah, always, always.

407
00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,640
And you will hate it for the rest of your life.

408
00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:50,640
Really?

409
00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:51,640
But it's not that bad.

410
00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:52,640
It's not even that.

411
00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,640
Sing just a little bit.

412
00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,640
Just a little bit.

413
00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,640
The older I get, I remember it was a cover because it was

414
00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,640
I know your spiel.

415
00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,640
I know his glug in German.

416
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,640
Oh, it was a cover song.

417
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,640
I didn't know that.

418
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:03,640
It's a cover song.

419
00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:04,640
Yeah.

420
00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:05,640
And I sing, you bend neat hip.

421
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,640
You bend neat float.

422
00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,640
Yeah, out of feats, the ears of that couple.

423
00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,640
La, la, la, la, la.

424
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:12,640
Ba, da, da, da.

425
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,640
It sounds a bit like it.

426
00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,640
Da, da, da, da.

427
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,640
Da, da, da, da.

428
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,640
Yeah.

429
00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:17,640
Da, da, da, da, da.

430
00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:18,640
Of course.

431
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,640
Of course.

432
00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,640
It was a rip-off of an old classic song.

433
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,640
Interesting.

434
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,640
And it became a hit.

435
00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,640
It was already hit in Germany, so.

436
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,640
But you remembered some of the lyrics.

437
00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,640
Not all of them, but yeah, I do.

438
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,640
And the funny thing is, I think you never forget it,

439
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,640
because if you have to sing it,

440
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,640
and I think the words will come.

441
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:40,640
The words will come.

442
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,640
The words will come.

443
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,640
If you sing it.

444
00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:43,640
Yeah.

445
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,640
But isn't that one of your nightmares that the words

446
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:46,640
don't come?

447
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,640
Well, that's what I wanted to tell you.

448
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,640
I know my nightmare.

449
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,640
I always dream the same dream.

450
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,640
And I think it's the nightmare that all singers know of.

451
00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,640
I'm in a theater.

452
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,640
I'm on stage.

453
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,640
The show begins.

454
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,640
Somebody announces me.

455
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,640
I'm standing there, and I think,

456
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,640
what the fuck am I going to sing?

457
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:12,640
Which song?

458
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,640
And the band starts.

459
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,640
And then the band starts,

460
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,640
and I don't recognize the intro.

461
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,640
Oh my goodness.

462
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,640
And everybody's looking at me.

463
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,640
The whole theater is looking at me.

464
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,640
And you just want to pee in your pants.

465
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,640
Oh my God.

466
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,640
And I always dream it.

467
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,640
And it never happened.

468
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,640
No, it never happened.

469
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,640
But do you get on stage sometimes and think,

470
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,640
oh my God, tonight's not the dream night?

471
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:36,640
Yeah, this is it.

472
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:37,640
It's going to happen.

473
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,640
Hey listen, here's a song I'm going to play.

474
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,640
See, this is a surprise,

475
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,640
because I never know what you're going to play.

476
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,640
Well, I'll tell you what we're going to play.

477
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,640
No, I'll tell you what we're going to play.

478
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:47,640
No, I won't.

479
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,640
No, it proudly presents.

480
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,640
Let's talk about that.

481
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:51,640
All right.

482
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:52,640
Yeah, okay.

483
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,640
This is 1980.

484
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,640
We skip a lot of records now.

485
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,640
Yeah, we'll go back later.

486
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:56,640
We skip a lot.

487
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,640
We go back and forward and everything.

488
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,640
Who gives a shit?

489
00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,640
Yeah, who gives a shit?

490
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,640
Otherwise it's boring.

491
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,640
Yeah, it's boring.

492
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,640
Sure.

493
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,640
I always keep telling you it's boring,

494
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:04,640
but you want me here.

495
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,640
All the 50s and 60s shit, you know.

496
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,640
Yeah.

497
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,640
It can only take so much.

498
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,640
So in the, what was it?

499
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,640
The 80s?

500
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,640
83.

501
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,640
No, no, no.

502
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,640
I did the Stars on 45.

503
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,640
Oh, okay, 1980.

504
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,640
There was this Stars on 45.

505
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,640
Mania.

506
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,640
Mania, yeah.

507
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:22,640
Became a big hit.

508
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,640
It was, the producer was, yeah.

509
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,640
Wait a minute.

510
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,640
I have a piece of that probably.

511
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,640
Everybody will recognize it.

512
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,640
It was a worldwide hit.

513
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,640
What is it?

514
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,640
Do they call it a compilation?

515
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,640
Compilation.

516
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,640
It was the Beatles.

517
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,640
That was, that's what started it.

518
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,640
There was a DJ who mixed a whole bunch of Beatles songs together.

519
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,640
Yeah.

520
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,640
One clap, one clapping rhythm.

521
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,640
Exactly.

522
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,640
And then Jaap Echemond.

523
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,640
It became a sort of disco thing.

524
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,640
And then all the famous songs that you know from the Beatles,

525
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,640
from ABBA, from...

526
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,640
And this all came from this one guy, Jaap Echemond,

527
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,640
who was the king of remakes.

528
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,640
Yeah.

529
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,640
In fact, he did a hit.

530
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,640
Remakes and actually what he was very good at is,

531
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,640
because in these days you did that,

532
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,640
was making a cover version.

533
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,640
A cover version.

534
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,640
Yeah.

535
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,640
Sort of rip off that actually sounded exactly the same.

536
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,640
Why did you do that?

537
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,640
For the money?

538
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,640
I don't know.

539
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,640
Must have been for the money.

540
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,640
Well, no.

541
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,640
They made those albums where you got all 13 rights,

542
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,640
but actually they were all 13 wrong.

543
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,640
Right.

544
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,640
This is before they could clear the rights to stuff.

545
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:30,640
Exactly.

546
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,640
Because you had no fax machines and shit like that.

547
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,640
So you got all the hits on one album,

548
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,640
but they weren't the real ones.

549
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,640
Right.

550
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,640
So it sounded like the Rolling Stones.

551
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,640
It sounded like it.

552
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,640
Oh, okay.

553
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,640
I remember those.

554
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,640
The Black Tulip Records.

555
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,640
I had some of those.

556
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,640
Jack Jersey did all that shit.

557
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,640
Cover, cover things.

558
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,640
Yeah.

559
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,640
Okay.

560
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:46,640
Right.

561
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,640
So anyway, so he had already done this Beatles stuff.

562
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,640
So he did the Beatles.

563
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:57,640
We've got a whole compilation album with ABBA,

564
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,640
Supremes, everything on it.

565
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,640
And I already helped him with that.

566
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,640
Right.

567
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,640
Because I was actually one of those backup singers

568
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,640
that you can use for everything.

569
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,640
Yeah.

570
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,640
Let's do a little piece of the ABBA.

571
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,640
Just to get the idea.

572
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:10,640
Yeah, we did the ABBA.

573
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,640
I did the Supremes.

574
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,640
Yeah.

575
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,640
Yeah.

576
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,640
So this is you and Yvonne, right?

577
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,640
Doing ABBA.

578
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,640
Doing ABBA and a couple other girls.

579
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,640
So far you're doing really good.

580
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,640
Sounds just like ABBA.

581
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,640
Yeah, doesn't it?

582
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,640
Anyway, Yvonne is my sister.

583
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,640
Sorry.

584
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,640
Here you go.

585
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:40,640
That sounds good.

586
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,640
Better than they are.

587
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,640
Yeah, I've always used a couple of girls.

588
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,640
And he switched from one of the girls to the other girl.

589
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,640
You know, it depends on which line was better

590
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,640
from that girl or that girl.

591
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,640
Right.

592
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,640
And you did Stevie Wonder as well?

593
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,640
Did you do any Stevie Wonder stuff?

594
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,640
We had some.

595
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,640
Well, I didn't do Stevie Wonder.

596
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,640
No, but maybe some of the backing vocals on those?

597
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,640
Well, one of my bass player was very good

598
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:07,640
at copying other...

599
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,640
Oh, he did Stevie, didn't he?

600
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,640
He did Stevie, I guess.

601
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,640
Yeah, that's his.

602
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,640
Is that...

603
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,640
That's Oki?

604
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,640
I guess so, I don't know.

605
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,640
It could be a black coyote also.

606
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,640
Who knows?

607
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,640
But...

608
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,640
And what else have we did?

609
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,640
We did Supremes.

610
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,640
Supremes?

611
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,640
Yeah.

612
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,640
Hold on.

613
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,640
You got a piece of the...

614
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,640
A piece of the rock, baby?

615
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,640
A piece of the Supremes tag?

616
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,640
Hold on, let me see.

617
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,640
Supremes.

618
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,640
Stars on 45 Supremes.

619
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,640
Yeah, hold on.

620
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,640
Let's do it!

621
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,640
Let's do it!

622
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,640
Ah!

623
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,640
Cool.

624
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,640
Let's do it!

625
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,640
Let's do it!

626
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,640
So this is like the theme thing,

627
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,640
the Stars on 45,

628
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,640
that's all the records have that, right?

629
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,640
And these were million sellers.

630
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,640
Unbelievable.

631
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,640
I mean, it was just tens of millions all over the world.

632
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,640
That's not you.

633
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,640
That's not me.

634
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,640
No, that's shit.

635
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,640
Who's that?

636
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,640
No, no, it's Zoe.

637
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,640
It's Zoe, one of the...

638
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,640
Famous backup vocals.

639
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,640
Sounds cheap.

640
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,640
She's nice.

641
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,640
She sings cool.

642
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,640
Very cool.

643
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,640
So where the hell is the Supremes part?

644
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,640
What is this?

645
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,640
No, you're just telling me.

646
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,640
Oh, after this.

647
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,640
Oh, after this?

648
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,640
Okay.

649
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,640
The hell?

650
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,640
Oh, here we go.

651
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,640
That's it.

652
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,640
That's pretty good.

653
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,640
That's good.

654
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,640
Little Diana Ross, you baby!

655
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,640
Now this, of course,

656
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,640
totally explains why you have such an incredible gay following.

657
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,640
Yes.

658
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,640
Man, do these boys love your ass?

659
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,640
So what happens?

660
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,640
You know what happens?

661
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,640
You know what happens?

662
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,640
You know what happens?

663
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,640
You know what happens?

664
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,640
You know what happens?

665
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,640
You know what happens?

666
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,640
So what happens?

667
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,640
You're like Diana and Barbara

668
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,640
and everything all wrapped up into one.

669
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,640
I'm all in one.

670
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,640
Yeah, I'm every woman.

671
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,640
Yeah.

672
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,640
I'm everything.

673
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,640
Well, I have something to confess.

674
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,640
What?

675
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,640
I'm just another gay boy.

676
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,640
You're a big fan.

677
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,640
Oh, this is cool.

678
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,640
Listen to this.

679
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,640
Do you remember that?

680
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,640
I did that a couple of times.

681
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,640
Yeah.

682
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,640
Do you remember this?

683
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,640
I performed on the coffee table for you.

684
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,640
The what?

685
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,640
The coffee table.

686
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,640
Yeah, with no clothes on.

687
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,640
I'm listening.

688
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,640
That's good.

689
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,640
And that's Yvonne as well.

690
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,640
I wonder if I have Yvonne's records, actually.

691
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,640
I don't know.

692
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,640
Okay, so wait a minute.

693
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,640
So anyway, so that was the concept.

694
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,640
That was...

695
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,640
That was the concept.

696
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,640
And these things were millions, millions.

697
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,640
It was crazy.

698
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,640
Now, one evening, there was a show on TV

699
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,640
and somebody asked us, called us up and said,

700
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,640
we're doing this show about famous families

701
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,640
that can make music together.

702
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,640
Now, we know that your dad and your mom

703
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,640
and your sister, everybody sings and plays.

704
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,640
But only for money.

705
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,640
Did you mention that?

706
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,640
Excuse me.

707
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,640
Only for money.

708
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,640
In this show, we've got a couple of very famous people

709
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,640
with their families and doing something.

710
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,640
I said, okay, we'll do something.

711
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,640
Celebrities coming to do something.

712
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,640
Famous families.

713
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,640
Do you know what you want to do together?

714
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,640
And I said, well, we would love to do

715
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,640
a little bit of old-fashioned Andrew sisters.

716
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,640
Now, does anybody realize that the Andrew sisters

717
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,640
probably had the most fantastic harmony

718
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,640
in modern musical history?

719
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,640
Little did we know.

720
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,640
Little did we know how fucked up that would be, right?

721
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,640
Exactly.

722
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,640
Because the Andrew sisters, three sisters,

723
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,640
they were very musical,

724
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,640
but they didn't know what they were doing.

725
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,640
So they couldn't read any music.

726
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,640
So all the vocals and the harmonies that they did,

727
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,640
they did it just from heart,

728
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,640
whatever they came up with.

729
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,640
Right.

730
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,640
So they went, we called it Bicycle.

731
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,640
Bicycle, now how do you say that?

732
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,640
Fits it.

733
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,640
Fits from the end.

734
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,640
Bicycling.

735
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,640
Bicycling.

736
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,640
From one voice to the other voice.

737
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,640
Up and down the hills.

738
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,640
That's what they did.

739
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,640
Up and down, they went from the third harmony

740
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,640
to the second harmony to the first to the lead.

741
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,640
They did everything.

742
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,640
It was just one big mess.

743
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,640
Because now you're talking not just singing,

744
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,640
you're talking about musical structure.

745
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,640
Yeah.

746
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,640
So it was one big mess.

747
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,640
When we really listened to it and said,

748
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,640
what is she doing?

749
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Oh, she's going, oh my, now she's singing the lead.

750
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,640
Oh, now she's going to one of the other harmonies.

751
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,640
It was very hard.

752
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,640
So it was kind of like people who taught themselves to type?

753
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,640
Exactly.

754
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,640
Or people who taught themselves to play the piano.

755
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,640
You know, with the wrong fingers going all over the place.

756
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,640
So what we did, my father is a very good musician.

757
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,640
He figured everything out.

758
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,640
And we did it on TV.

759
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640
With my mom.

760
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,640
We said, ah, I'm not going to do this.

761
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,640
Mom, you're a great singer.

762
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,640
You do it.

763
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,640
So the three of us, there's my mom in the middle.

764
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,640
I do remember that.

765
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,640
That was like, the whole country was like,

766
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,640
what the fuck is that?

767
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,640
My mom in the middle, Yvonne left.

768
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,640
I'm standing on the right side.

769
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,640
Was it live?

770
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,640
And we were kicking my mom and, you know,

771
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,640
and nipping her in her butt every time,

772
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,640
you know, if she wants, had to do something.

773
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,640
Oh.

774
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,640
And she was not used to looking, you know,

775
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,640
in the camera or, you know, performing,

776
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,640
although she has a nice voice.

777
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,640
But she loved it.

778
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,640
So we did that.

779
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,640
And the next day.

780
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,640
Wait, it was live?

781
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,640
It was live?

782
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,640
Or you'd recorded it.

783
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,640
It was semi-live.

784
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,640
So the band was already on the tape.

785
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,640
And so what'd you do?

786
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,640
You did a couple of songs or one song?

787
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,640
It was one compilation.

788
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,640
Right.

789
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,640
A little bit like it became later.

790
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,640
That was your idea?

791
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,640
It was my idea.

792
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,640
Right.

793
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,640
And so we did that.

794
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,640
The next morning, the telephone kept on ringing.

795
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,640
Hollywood hotel.

796
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,640
Yeah.

797
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,640
Everybody loved it.

798
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,640
One moment I connect you.

799
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Oh, can we, is there a record from this?

800
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,640
We want to buy it.

801
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,640
And it's great.

802
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,640
It's great.

803
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,640
It's great.

804
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640
So then Jaap Echemont called me.

805
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,640
That it's the producer from Stars on 45.

806
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,640
Can we do this?

807
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,640
It's like this introverted motherfucker.

808
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,640
Wouldn't that be a great idea if we do a Stars on 45 with it?

809
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,640
Yeah.

810
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,640
And I said, well, I haven't been thinking about that.

811
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,640
But yeah, we could talk about that.

812
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,640
And you said, by the way, Jaap,

813
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,640
do you know that I only sing for money?

814
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,640
Stars on 45, dude.

815
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Well, you know, you have to say that.

816
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,640
Otherwise you get screwed.

817
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,640
How many people are screwed?

818
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,640
Because I never thought about the money.

819
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,640
Because everybody loves to sing.

820
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,640
I took all your money.

821
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,640
And want to be famous, but don't think about the contracts.

822
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,640
I took all your money.

823
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,640
Yeah, you did.

824
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,640
But then I gave it all back.

825
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,640
You have all the bank accounts.

826
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,640
You have all the money.

827
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,640
Yes, I do.

828
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,640
I have all your bank accounts.

829
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,640
All in your name.

830
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,640
In my name.

831
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,640
So we did.

832
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,640
And it was very hard.

833
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,640
We really worked for nights and nights and nights through the nights.

834
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,640
That's how we did these days.

835
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,640
Just nights and nights.

836
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:54,640
And I had to sort of camouflage my voice to make a sort of a Jewish sound.

837
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,640
They all, they said a little bit like the, yeah, they were Jewish.

838
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,640
And they had this Jewish.

839
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,640
What is this?

840
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,640
What's the difference?

841
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,640
On the apple tree.

842
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,640
Without anyone else but me, you know, they were the one who liked that.

843
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,640
That's interesting.

844
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,640
Yeah.

845
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,640
And do that again.

846
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,640
That's cool.

847
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,640
Man, where are any ounce went in?

848
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,640
No, it's in your throat.

849
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,640
It's in your throat.

850
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,640
And I remember that I had pain.

851
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,640
After a couple of days.

852
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640
I have really, I was very painful.

853
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,640
But then you get to have chicken soup.

854
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,640
And you made the really, and of course, yeah, made a beautiful sound.

855
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,640
You know, he's, he's spinned it.

856
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,640
Yeah.

857
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,640
Spinned it up.

858
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Yes, sped it up.

859
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,640
Even thinner.

860
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,640
And this was the days of analog.

861
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,640
This was not computers.

862
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,640
This was real 24 track overdub.

863
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,640
Dub, dub, dub.

864
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,640
All you had was, was you had some reverb plates and compression.

865
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,640
But I have to say that my mom said, I'm not going to do this.

866
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,640
So my mom is out of the picture.

867
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,640
It's only Yvonne and me.

868
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,640
Because we thought it was a joke.

869
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,640
You know, we can do this.

870
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,640
We will never be anything.

871
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,640
I thought it was, it was fun to do it.

872
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,640
But you know, it was going to like this.

873
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,640
So Yvonne and I, I did the two harmonies.

874
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,640
The lead and the third one.

875
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:28,640
And Yvonne did the second one that is the lower one.

876
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:44,640
So, and after a week we were done and they released a single and in about two weeks it was number one in five countries at the same time.

877
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,640
Unbelievable.

878
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,640
Yeah.

879
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,640
There's another little side story.

880
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,640
Always when you're not looking.

881
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,640
Yeah.

882
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,640
That's what happens.

883
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,640
That's what happens.

884
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,640
There's a little side story to this sidebar.

885
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Yeah.

886
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,640
Cause.

887
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,640
I was in.

888
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Why we were recording.

889
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,640
You were recording the song.

890
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:10,640
We have to explain that they called it the star sisters instead of the endo sisters.

891
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,640
Right.

892
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,640
Because it was the stars of 45.

893
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,640
The star sisters.

894
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,640
Right.

895
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,640
So we were recording in the studio in sound push in Hilversum.

896
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,640
Okay.

897
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,640
And you were in studio one and I was working at the pirate radio station.

898
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,640
I was 17.

899
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,640
No, no, no.

900
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,640
You were 19.

901
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,640
No.

902
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,640
18 or 19.

903
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,640
No, no, no, no.

904
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,640
That's young.

905
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,640
Girlfriend.

906
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,640
Jeez.

907
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,640
1983.

908
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,640
Yeah.

909
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,640
Yeah.

910
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,640
I was just, yeah.

911
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,640
17.

912
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,640
It happens.

913
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,640
I was 17.

914
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,640
That you were.

915
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,640
Well, listen.

916
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,640
I was there because I was doing, I was doing an English American.

917
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,640
I was an American DJ on its pirate radio station.

918
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,640
No, we didn't know what happened there.

919
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,640
No, we didn't know each other.

920
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,640
Not at all.

921
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640
No, I was doing my own thing on pirate radio.

922
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:59,640
And there was some guys who needed a porn movie to be overdubbed because they had the actor,

923
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640
was an English actor.

924
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,640
Yeah.

925
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,640
And he had.

926
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,640
Who had the equipment.

927
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,640
He had, the cock was right on baby.

928
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,640
Yeah, but not the voice.

929
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,640
Right.

930
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,640
Exactly.

931
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,640
So they needed like this.

932
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,640
He was supposed to play the rough and tough detective guy.

933
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,640
American guy.

934
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,640
Right.

935
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,640
So they, somehow they got to me and I said, yeah, you know, sure, no problem.

936
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,080
And it was professional because we were, obviously it was because we were in, and it was well

937
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,080
funded by William Foncote.

938
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Yeah.

939
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,080
It was, it was a real movie.

940
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,080
Oh, the same boss.

941
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,080
Yeah.

942
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,080
That's why we were, we were doing the overdubs in that studio.

943
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Exactly.

944
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,080
That's what he used it for all his projects.

945
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,080
Yeah.

946
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,080
And so I was there doing the overdubs for like three days in a row.

947
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:42,080
And it was stuff like, oh yeah, baby, I'm, I'm from the city health inspection.

948
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,080
Yeah.

949
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,080
And it was a lot of.

950
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,080
I remember hearing that.

951
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,080
Yeah.

952
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,080
So we were having a drink and a break.

953
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,080
And I think what is going on in the other studio?

954
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Oh yeah, baby.

955
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,080
Hit it.

956
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,080
Hit it right there.

957
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,080
Touch my ass.

958
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,080
Touch my balls.

959
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,080
Yeah.

960
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,080
That's a friend of yours.

961
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,080
So I looked around and just opened the door and I saw you.

962
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,080
Right.

963
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,080
And I was a little geeky zoid.

964
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,080
A little, little ugly guy sitting there and breathing and, you know, and doing this

965
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,080
thing.

966
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,080
And I think we, we shook hands.

967
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,080
No, no, I was like, um, I think it was.

968
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,080
That's how it was.

969
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,080
I think, uh, yeah, introduced us.

970
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Yeah.

971
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,080
I was like, hello, who had it with you?

972
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,080
Hello.

973
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,080
Hi.

974
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,080
Yeah.

975
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,080
And you, and you did like a total star trip on me.

976
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,080
Like, Hey baby.

977
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,080
Hi.

978
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,080
Nice.

979
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,080
What are you doing?

980
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Very nice.

981
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,080
Nice job you have.

982
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,080
I was shattered.

983
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,080
You pissed all over me.

984
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,080
I was nobody.

985
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Okay.

986
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,080
I was nobody.

987
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,080
I was John Holden.

988
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Never saw each other again.

989
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,080
For two years, three years.

990
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,080
We didn't see each other at all.

991
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,080
Okay.

992
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,080
So two weeks later.

993
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,080
I left.

994
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,080
Yeah, you left.

995
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,080
No, you left.

996
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,080
And like maybe two weeks later, I got a call in the middle of the night.

997
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,080
Yeah.

998
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,080
I didn't know anything about this.

999
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,080
No.

1000
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,080
I was still living at home, but I had my own phone number in my own phone line.

1001
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,080
And it was Yop.

1002
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,080
And he said, Oh, Adam, can you come over?

1003
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,080
I got something to do.

1004
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,080
And he was like really weird.

1005
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,080
Right.

1006
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,080
That's how he talked.

1007
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Do this and that sound.

1008
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,080
We need an American voice.

1009
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Yeah.

1010
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,080
Yeah.

1011
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,080
Yeah.

1012
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,080
The old fashioned thing.

1013
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,080
Yeah.

1014
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,080
So, um, I came to the studio.

1015
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,080
Yeah.

1016
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,080
I think my mom drove me.

1017
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,080
Yeah.

1018
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,080
Actually.

1019
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,080
And brought me to the studio.

1020
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,080
Brought me to the studio middle of the night.

1021
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,080
And what he wanted is an old time announcer voice.

1022
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,080
Yeah.

1023
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Kind of like the 40s, 45, which would be kind of like a war time

1024
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,080
announcer.

1025
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,080
Right.

1026
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,080
Something like that.

1027
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,080
But more and.

1028
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,080
And now.

1029
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Right.

1030
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,080
Well, so actually I wrote that.

1031
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,080
So he needed these two pieces and I actually wrote the lyrics

1032
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,080
and then he did his thing with.

1033
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,080
Now we were already home.

1034
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,080
You were gone.

1035
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,080
And this, this you have to, you know, these producers, they, um, they

1036
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,080
work through the night.

1037
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,080
They don't, they never go to sleep.

1038
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Snorting coke.

1039
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,080
You come the next day and he got all sorts of things going on.

1040
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,080
Oh yeah.

1041
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,080
That you didn't hear.

1042
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,080
Always very surprising.

1043
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,080
Yeah.

1044
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,080
Sometimes.

1045
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,080
It's fun.

1046
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,080
Yeah.

1047
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,080
Right.

1048
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Um, so anyway.

1049
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,080
So, um, I wrote these two, two little lines, which I never got paid for.

1050
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,080
That's why I wanted to exaggerate that.

1051
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,080
You got me.

1052
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,080
Of course.

1053
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,080
No, it's crazy that the gold record for this thing hangs on

1054
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,080
all now.

1055
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,080
It's fucking outrageous.

1056
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,080
The thing is it became a big hit.

1057
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,080
And I'm a nine.

1058
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Never seen, you know, in, in.

1059
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,080
We were destined for each other.

1060
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,080
We didn't even know.

1061
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,080
Then when we met again and there was this thing was all over.

1062
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,080
And, you know, became hits and everything.

1063
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,080
We started to talk to each other.

1064
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,080
And actually we, uh, wait, hold on.

1065
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,080
Let's play the damn record already.

1066
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,080
Okay.

1067
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,080
No, no, no, no.

1068
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,080
Let's play the record.

1069
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,080
Let me finish the story.

1070
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,080
You're already going past it.

1071
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,080
I know.

1072
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,080
Okay.

1073
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,080
So no, no, no.

1074
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,080
So we met each other again and we, we were, and you were telling me

1075
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,080
about that you were the voice on that record.

1076
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,080
Right.

1077
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,080
And I said, you were that.

1078
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Yeah.

1079
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Yeah.

1080
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,080
I didn't even know that.

1081
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,080
Yeah.

1082
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,080
I think so.

1083
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,080
So you told me there was a first time I knew who this guy was.

1084
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,080
I thought it was an old guy in a strange.

1085
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,080
So it was you and, uh, no, this is, uh, well, we can play the

1086
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,080
whole thing.

1087
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,080
It's too long.

1088
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,080
What do you mean?

1089
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,080
It's four minutes.

1090
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,080
You will?

1091
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,080
What do you mean?

1092
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,080
We've been talking for, for half an hour.

1093
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,080
Do you think maybe they want to hear some music now?

1094
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,080
Okay.

1095
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,080
See, I'm always thinking people don't want to hear it.

1096
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,080
Of course.

1097
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,080
People.

1098
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,080
I'm sure that for the past 10 minutes, people are sitting

1099
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,080
in their cars going play the fucking record already.

1100
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,080
All right.

1101
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,080
Here we go.

1102
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,080
This is, uh, stars on 45 proudly presents.

1103
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:41,080
Check it out, y'all.

1104
00:38:41,080 --> 00:42:26,250
[ Music ]

1105
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,080
That was a great video.

1106
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,080
And I was really thinking there was an old guy.

1107
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,080
Well, you got him, baby.

1108
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,080
I am your old guy.

1109
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,080
Um, so that, that, that song took you around the world.

1110
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,080
Right?

1111
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,080
That was major.

1112
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,080
Major.

1113
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,080
Except, except in the US.

1114
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Yeah.

1115
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,080
Couldn't crack that.

1116
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,080
No.

1117
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,080
Fuck that.

1118
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,080
Yeah.

1119
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:57,080
And we, we did a, uh, an interview over the telephone with one of the stations.

1120
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,080
Do you remember?

1121
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,080
I don't remember.

1122
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,080
We weren't hanging out then.

1123
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:06,080
Well, the problem was, see, we were, um, in Europe, we were in all the charts, but with

1124
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:13,080
Spendabelle, with, you know, Paul Young, with, with, you know, with just the normal songs

1125
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,080
that, you know, there were in, in the chart.

1126
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,080
You were a specialist song.

1127
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,080
You were like a novelty.

1128
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,080
America said, we don't know which station we can play it.

1129
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,080
Is it, is it that how fucked up?

1130
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,080
Yeah.

1131
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,080
It was just a nice song that people liked.

1132
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,080
It didn't matter.

1133
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,080
It could have been on top 40 stations.

1134
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,080
No problem.

1135
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Yeah.

1136
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,080
Because yeah, it was played in, in, in.

1137
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,080
We played it on, uh, Decibo.

1138
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,080
In clubs and in discotheques and still actually they played.

1139
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,080
And they had all kinds of remixes and all kinds of cool shit.

1140
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,080
Who cares?

1141
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,080
Music is music.

1142
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,080
Yeah.

1143
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,080
Don't make a problem out of that.

1144
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,080
But then, you know.

1145
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,080
That's what Michael Jackson said.

1146
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,080
Didn't crack America shit.

1147
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,080
Yeah.

1148
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,080
Does that frustrate you?

1149
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Well, it was a chance to do that.

1150
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,080
It's nice.

1151
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Yeah.

1152
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,080
Just the idea.

1153
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,080
Yeah.

1154
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,080
You know, now I'm not thinking about the money.

1155
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,080
Just, you know.

1156
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,080
Yeah.

1157
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,080
That you could do that.

1158
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,080
Right.

1159
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:10,080
But the funniest thing is that the guys that you hear on this recording, they were all young

1160
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,080
guys playing pop music normally.

1161
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,080
The guys from Delft?

1162
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,080
They had so much fun.

1163
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,080
The Pasadena Dream Band?

1164
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,080
Was that it?

1165
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,080
No, no, no, no.

1166
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,080
Didn't they play?

1167
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,080
They were their videos.

1168
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,080
They were really just rock musicians.

1169
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Oh, really?

1170
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Yeah.

1171
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,080
Oh, wow.

1172
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,080
And they enjoyed it so much.

1173
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,080
Because, you know, there's so much that we could talk about of the stuff you'd done with

1174
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,080
Golden Earring, with Jan Akraman.

1175
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,080
Yeah.

1176
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,080
Jan Akraman.

1177
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,080
Focus, Jan Akraman.

1178
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,080
Yeah.

1179
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,080
One of the best rock guitar players.

1180
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,080
You know, I was wondering.

1181
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,080
I did a tour with him.

1182
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,080
Maybe I was at Smile.

1183
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,080
Is that?

1184
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,080
I wish I hope I have that.

1185
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,080
Smile?

1186
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,080
No.

1187
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,080
Come on.

1188
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,080
No, that's Yvonne.

1189
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,080
That's not me.

1190
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,080
What's papa, papa, papa?

1191
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,080
That's Yvonne.

1192
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,080
Really?

1193
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,080
Yeah, that's my sister.

1194
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,080
I always give you some credit for that, too.

1195
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,080
No.

1196
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,080
But I did Joan Jett.

1197
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,080
Remember?

1198
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,080
I did a lot of vocal making focus for the Joan Jett.

1199
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,080
I don't think I have those songs on iTunes.

1200
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,080
In America.

1201
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,080
Yeah.

1202
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,080
Remember?

1203
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,080
Yeah.

1204
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,080
I actually couldn't sing.

1205
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,080
What?

1206
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,080
Remember, we went in the studio and I had to dub, you know, really, you know,

1207
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,080
sing her vocals.

1208
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,080
You remember that?

1209
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,080
I have no part of this.

1210
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,080
Yeah, I remember that.

1211
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,080
Yeah, you were there.

1212
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,080
Absolutely.

1213
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,080
You know, that was a weird time because that was right around when

1214
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,080
the San Francisco earthquake hit.

1215
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,080
Yeah.

1216
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,080
That was really, that was messed up.

1217
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,080
We did that.

1218
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,080
And what did, what else did we do?

1219
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,080
I was wondering.

1220
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,080
When we lived in America, I did some backing vocals.

1221
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,080
Oh, yeah.

1222
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,080
Well, Jack Ponti.

1223
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,080
Yeah.

1224
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,080
He sent me an email and he sent me his phone number.

1225
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,080
We have to talk.

1226
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,080
Oh, that's nice.

1227
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Yeah.

1228
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,080
Yeah.

1229
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,080
You didn't do anything on Radar Love, did you?

1230
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,080
Yeah.

1231
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,080
You did?

1232
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,080
No, not Radar Love.

1233
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,080
No, not Radar Love, but the other one.

1234
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,080
No, I don't have any of that.

1235
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,080
Shoot.

1236
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,080
What was it on the other song from Earring?

1237
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,080
I don't have any other Earring.

1238
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,080
Totally.

1239
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,080
Back home.

1240
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,080
Back home.

1241
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,080
Back home.

1242
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:07,080
See, we got to get some of your older stuff because I have like all this, you know, from

1243
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:12,080
like the same era, like the 80s, but I don't have any of the 70s or 60s stuff.

1244
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,080
And then we did, oh, and also the album.

1245
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,080
And maybe I think your friend has won the album that we did in.

1246
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,080
With Alan Parsons?

1247
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,080
Yeah, Abbey Road and Abbey Road Studios.

1248
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,080
How about Cold as Ice?

1249
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,080
All right.

1250
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,080
And these are the same.

1251
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,080
That's what I wanted to say.

1252
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,080
These are the same musicians that played the Star Sister.

1253
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,080
Okay.

1254
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,080
Because this is a song that, it was never a single, was it?

1255
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,080
I don't think it was a single.

1256
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,080
No, it's from an album from the Star Sisters later.

1257
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Yeah, your Danger album.

1258
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,080
Yeah.

1259
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,080
That was good.

1260
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,080
I liked that album.

1261
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,080
That was really good.

1262
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,080
We could play a couple of things from that, but I think it's Cold as Ice.

1263
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,080
That's just you, right?

1264
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,080
It's more you.

1265
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,080
Yeah.

1266
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,080
Yeah.

1267
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,080
Let me listen to that for a second.

1268
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,080
I think I like that a lot.

1269
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Yeah.

1270
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,080
I've made, I've made jingles and promos out of that drum.

1271
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,080
Oh yeah?

1272
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,080
Yeah.

1273
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,080
It's cool.

1274
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,080
What are you saying?

1275
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,080
Okay.

1276
00:47:03,080 --> 00:49:53,080
[ Music ]

1277
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,080
Cold as ice.

1278
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,080
Heart you handle, heart you please.

1279
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:05,080
Heart you handle, heart you please.

1280
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:35,080
Why didn't I say that?

1281
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,080
I probably went home after that.

1282
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,080
When they were mixing this.

1283
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,080
When they started to party,

1284
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,080
when they break out the coke and the booze and the chicks.

1285
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,080
You must have done some of the partying in the studio.

1286
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,080
No.

1287
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,080
No?

1288
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,080
You always went home?

1289
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Yeah.

1290
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,080
You never had sex with anybody on the mixing board?

1291
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,080
No.

1292
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,080
Under the mixing board?

1293
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,080
No.

1294
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,080
Not even with Yap?

1295
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,080
No.

1296
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,080
Way too proud for that.

1297
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,080
Yeah.

1298
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,080
What?

1299
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,080
Not even with Yap?

1300
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,080
Yap?

1301
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,080
Oh, disgusting.

1302
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,080
No.

1303
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,080
No, I wouldn't do that.

1304
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,080
No?

1305
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,080
No.

1306
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,080
Never with people that you work with.

1307
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,080
Never.

1308
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,080
Oh, shit.

1309
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,080
Now she tells me.

1310
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,080
Okay.

1311
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,080
We're coming up on an hour.

1312
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,080
I think an hour is enough for our first episode.

1313
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,080
I think so.

1314
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,080
People who have MP3, send them to us.

1315
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,080
Because we can give you the story behind the song,

1316
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,080
but you must have done a thousand.

1317
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,080
Must have done a thousand songs.

1318
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,080
I think so.

1319
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,080
Here, choose one from this wonderful Holland's Glory compilation.

1320
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,080
I don't know.

1321
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,080
Holland's Glory.

1322
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,080
Okay.

1323
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,080
Someone's making money on that.

1324
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,080
Yeah, really.

1325
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:47,080
Every time there's a new CD coming out with my name on it,

1326
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,080
and I don't even know what's on it.

1327
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,080
And it just grabbed an old picture.

1328
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,080
Yeah, and they put like 15 tracks.

1329
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,080
Boom.

1330
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,080
Probably just, you know, shaking it.

1331
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,080
What do we put on it this time, boys?

1332
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,080
But you know, you actually, you do get paid royalties, you know.

1333
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,080
I guess so.

1334
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,080
No, you do.

1335
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,080
Do I?

1336
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,080
Yeah.

1337
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,080
Okay.

1338
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,080
I mean, it's vacation money.

1339
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:20,080
This is also the movie songs are there.

1340
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,080
You like the dance stand looks.

1341
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,080
You love that.

1342
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,080
It's a little bit musical.

1343
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,080
See, that's my problem.

1344
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,080
I like a lot of sorts of music.

1345
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,080
And I think that's a problem.

1346
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,080
Yeah, because people can't put you in a box.

1347
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,080
No, you should stay with one thing.

1348
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,080
No.

1349
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,080
And I think I was, oh, I want to try that.

1350
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,080
You're an artist.

1351
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,080
Or I want to see this.

1352
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,080
You're an artist.

1353
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,080
You're an artist.

1354
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,080
I wrote that myself.

1355
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,080
I wrote a lot of songs.

1356
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,080
Did you know that?

1357
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,080
Yeah.

1358
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,080
I know.

1359
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,080
You know, it's, you know, what was a really, really.

1360
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,080
Hold on, hold on.

1361
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,080
Let me just.

1362
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,080
Big hit.

1363
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,080
Hold on one second, hon.

1364
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,080
Hold on.

1365
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,080
The delay was getting too crazy.

1366
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,080
Okay.

1367
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:07,080
You know, what I always like to sing was, who's that lady with my man?

1368
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,080
That was a big hit.

1369
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,080
Do I have that one?

1370
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,080
It went not number one.

1371
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,080
Yeah, I have that one.

1372
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,080
This one, but number two, because Smokey was number one.

1373
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,080
Smokey?

1374
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,080
And didn't want to go.

1375
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,080
Living next door to Alice?

1376
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,080
Yes.

1377
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,080
Let's play that.

1378
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,080
And they just don't want to, didn't want to leave.

1379
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,080
So I couldn't get on the number one.

1380
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,080
Let's see if I have Smokey.

1381
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,080
Number two.

1382
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,080
I hate that.

1383
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,080
I've stumbling in.

1384
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,080
Another great Smokey hit.

1385
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,080
Yeah.

1386
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,080
So these were the guys that he couldn't beat.

1387
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,080
I hated them.

1388
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,080
Yeah.

1389
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,080
I hated them because that's why I never became number one with that song.

1390
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,080
Not this song.

1391
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,080
No, not this song.

1392
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,080
Hold on.

1393
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Now this is with Susie Quattro together.

1394
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,080
Yeah.

1395
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,080
Okay.

1396
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,080
Hold on.

1397
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,080
Let me get you, baby.

1398
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,080
Really?

1399
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,080
That's the song you wrote.

1400
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,080
That's interesting.

1401
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:04,080
And remember that a couple of years ago, they had a hit in Holland suddenly.

1402
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,080
And they did this song, Alice.

1403
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,080
And did you remember that?

1404
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,080
Peter Coolewine did another Alice song.

1405
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,080
Oh, no.

1406
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,080
I didn't know that.

1407
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,080
And then between the lines, they said, who the fuck is Alice all the time?

1408
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,080
Oh, it was like a rap thing, a rap answer record?

1409
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,080
No, it was this.

1410
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,080
They sang the song and then only filled it in with who the fuck is Alice.

1411
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,080
Interesting.

1412
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,080
And that's what I said all the time.

1413
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,080
Who the fuck is Alice?

1414
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,080
Who the fuck is Alice?

1415
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,080
She's number one.

1416
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,080
God damn it, I want to be number one.

1417
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,080
Get the fuck off.

1418
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,080
Yeah, right.

1419
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,080
Okay, so who's that lady?

1420
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,080
That's what you want?

1421
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,080
Yeah.

1422
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,080
Really?

1423
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,080
That's really interesting.

1424
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,080
I like that song.

1425
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,080
Really?

1426
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,080
Okay.

1427
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,080
Cool.

1428
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,080
All right.

1429
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:50,080
That lady with my man, who can she be?

1430
00:54:50,080 --> 00:57:34,080
[ Music ]

1431
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,080
I'll be your lover

1432
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:42,080
Oh, tonight

1433
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,080
Oh, actually the producer and the record company

1434
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,080
Well, it was a good commercial idea, because he was hot, baby

1435
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,080
He had Baywatch going on

1436
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,080
With whom do you want to sing this song?

1437
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,080
So, you know, I said all sorts of wonderful singers

1438
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,080
And then I said, now, can't get them

1439
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,080
But we can't, can't get them

1440
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,080
Who did you say, who did you say?

1441
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,080
Oh, I remember, I don't remember

1442
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,080
I said, oh, maybe this and that one

1443
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,080
And actually I wanted to have Rod Stewart

1444
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,080
Yeah, of course

1445
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,080
And all this cool guys

1446
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,080
Excellent, yeah, and I said, hold on

1447
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,080
Let me just call Mr. Stewart for you

1448
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,080
Oh, no way

1449
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,080
Oh, no

1450
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,080
He's the uncoolest person you've ever met

1451
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,080
And you said, of course, you reminded yourself

1452
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,080
I only sing for money

1453
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,080
And I thought, well, you know, it could, you know

1454
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,080
It could be a smash, it could

1455
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,080
Yeah, he was very hot then

1456
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,080
Not hot in the physical sense

1457
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,080
But he was happy

1458
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,080
He was big in Germany, you know

1459
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:02,080
He just had the awful it in Germany

1460
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,080
He actually thinks he can sing

1461
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,080
So my producer goes with the tape under his arm

1462
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,080
To the States, to LA

1463
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,080
So I didn't have to go, thank God

1464
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,080
I didn't have to go

1465
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,080
So he sang it over there

1466
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,080
And my voice was already on it

1467
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,080
So I went to the studios

1468
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,080
No, no, no, your voice was later

1469
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,080
Did you just do a guide track?

1470
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,080
No, no, I was already on it

1471
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,080
No, I already sang a guide for him, too

1472
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,080
So what song was this?

1473
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,080
Jennifer Warren's Bill Medley

1474
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,080
I've had the time of my life

1475
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,080
The time of my life

1476
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,080
That's the part that he had to sing

1477
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,080
We thought that he was actually

1478
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,080
A singer

1479
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,080
Very nice singer

1480
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,080
My producer comes back and says

1481
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,080
This guy just sucks so bad

1482
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,080
He really sucks

1483
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,080
But the thing is, do you know these guys

1484
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,080
Who think they are great singers

1485
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,080
Especially when they have their headphones on

1486
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,080
And they're standing for the mic

1487
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,080
And they hear themselves and they think

1488
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,080
Wow, it's so cool

1489
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,080
I'm such a great singer

1490
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,080
You just described every podcaster in the universe

1491
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,080
I sound really good, don't I?

1492
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,080
We do hear that now and then

1493
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,080
So he was a

1494
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,080
No

1495
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,080
And he really loved himself

1496
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,080
He really thought it was cool

1497
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,080
And my producer said it was so off-key

1498
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,080
It was so bad that they just started to say

1499
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,080
Okay, this is fine

1500
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,080
You can go, this is great

1501
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,080
We've got it, we've got it, it's great

1502
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,080
And so they had to go through the computer

1503
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,080
And got it all, you know, all the notes

1504
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,080
Back to pull it up again

1505
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,080
Pull it down again

1506
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,080
And then the result is great

1507
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,080
But he thinks that he's so...

1508
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,080
That he's got it

1509
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,080
But it's so...

1510
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,080
And you still went ahead with the project

1511
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,080
You're such a commercial whore

1512
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,080
Well, yeah, now we've got it a bit right

1513
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,080
You can play a little bit of it, you can hear it

1514
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:17,080
It does sound nice, but it sucks

1515
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,080
I'll leave the mic open, you can comment

1516
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,080
See, that's me

1517
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,080
You're rocking out

1518
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,080
Oh man

1519
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,080
And he invited me

1520
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,080
He said she has to come over

1521
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,080
She's great

1522
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,080
I'm going to perform with her

1523
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,080
And maybe she can have a role in Baywatch

1524
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,080
Baywatch

1525
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,080
Everybody could, you know, do something in Baywatch

1526
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,080
Oh, they really fixed that up

1527
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,080
That sounds good

1528
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,080
Yeah

1529
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,080
Hey

1530
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,080
Just remember

1531
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,080
He sounds like Neil Diamond

1532
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,080
Yes, he does

1533
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,080
Yeah, he wishes

1534
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,080
And here we go

1535
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,080
Time of my life

1536
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:53,080
No, I've never felt this way before

1537
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,080
He loved it

1538
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,080
Yes, I swear

1539
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,080
Of course, it's great

1540
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:03,080
And I owe it all to you

1541
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,080
You don't hear him anymore here

1542
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,080
Hey, what was that?

1543
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,080
He's coming

1544
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,080
Hey

1545
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,080
He just did a hey

1546
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,080
He's coming

1547
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,080
Another hey

1548
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,080
I think

1549
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,080
So we'll just let it go

1550
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,080
Don't be afraid to lose control

1551
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,080
Oh no

1552
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,080
Oh no

1553
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,080
I know it's in your mind

1554
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,080
When you say

1555
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,080
Stay with me tonight

1556
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,080
Stay with me

1557
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,080
And remember

1558
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,080
Remember

1559
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,080
Now you have to think that that was totally OP

1560
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,080
Yeah, the computer totally fixed it

1561
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,080
Yeah, that's cool

1562
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,080
You want more torture?

1563
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,080
That was enough

1564
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,080
Thank you very much

1565
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,080
Okay

1566
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,080
So we can end

1567
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,080
That was a good story

1568
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,080
That was great

1569
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,080
That could have been an international hit

1570
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,080
It was already a hit

1571
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,080
Yeah, it was already a hit

1572
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,080
They didn't need this

1573
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,080
You know, I saw on CNN

1574
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,080
He was interviewed

1575
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,080
And he actually said that

1576
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,080
He felt he was partially responsible

1577
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,080
For the Berlin Wall

1578
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,080
To come down

1579
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,080
I know

1580
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,080
He said because he was performing

1581
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,080
Let Freedom Rock or whatever

1582
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,080
I think the Wall started to come down

1583
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,080
And then he jumped on a plane

1584
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,080
He has Hoogmoets Waanzin

1585
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,080
Right on

1586
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,080
Translated

1587
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,080
The slurry source will translate that

1588
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,080
There's a real podcast

1589
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,080
Called The Slurry Source

1590
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,080
Yeah

1591
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,080
Yeah, it's a Dutch podcast

1592
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,080
Yeah

1593
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,080
Hoogmoets Waanzin

1594
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,080
What is that?

1595
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:34,080
If you are

1596
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,080
High and mighty

1597
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,080
Yeah

1598
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,080
Yeah, he's nuts

1599
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,080
Overrated himself

1600
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,080
He's overestimating his position

1601
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,080
On the show business ladder

1602
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,080
That's for sure

1603
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,080
Okay, so we do this again

1604
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,080
With me sometime

1605
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,080
Oh yeah, there's so many stories

1606
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,080
You want to hear them?

1607
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,080
We'll keep them

1608
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,080
It's cool

1609
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,080
It'll be a podcast

1610
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,080
That you can keep forever

1611
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,080
Isn't that boring?

1612
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,080
The whole podcast about me?

1613
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,080
For some people

1614
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,080
But there's a fast forward

1615
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,080
So they'll just fast forward to the music

1616
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,080
People don't want to listen to music

1617
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,080
I think they do

1618
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,080
I think they like it

1619
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,080
Yeah

1620
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,080
So let's end this episode

1621
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,080
Of Triple P

1622
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,080
Alright

1623
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,080
What did you got there?

1624
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,080
What did you got there?

1625
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,080
See this is quite a surprise

1626
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,080
No, no, no, we'll do

1627
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,080
Dance 10 Looks 3

1628
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:18,080
Oh, alright

1629
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,080
I like that one

1630
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,080
What was this from?

1631
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,080
Well, I went to see the musical

1632
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,080
What was it, what I said?

1633
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,080
42nd Street

1634
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,080
No, no, no, no, no, no, no

1635
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,080
Chorus Line

1636
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,080
Chorus Line

1637
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,080
In London

1638
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,080
When was this?

1639
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,080
Quite impressive

1640
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,080
Very, very, very good

1641
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,080
When was this?

1642
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,080
Eighties?

1643
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,080
When?

1644
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,080
Seventies

1645
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,080
Also one of the albums

1646
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:47,080
And Jaap Echemont was still my producer

1647
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,080
And he said

1648
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,080
Let's do something else on the album

1649
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,080
Just surprise people

1650
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,080
Cool

1651
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,080
Yeah

1652
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,080
So I did this

1653
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,080
I did a couple pieces of musical on TV

1654
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,080
We had shows that

1655
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,080
People would see little parts of musicals

1656
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,080
And I did that

1657
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:12,080
And so I can do a sort of musical voice

1658
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:13,080
If I have to

1659
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,080
So I thought it was nice to do this

1660
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,080
So this podcast thing doesn't work out

1661
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,080
You can still go to the theater

1662
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,080
And provide for your family

1663
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,080
Yeah, Jaap on the end

1664
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,080
Asked me a couple of times

1665
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,080
He's a big theater guy at all

1666
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,080
Yeah, but that's all

1667
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,080
It's hard work, man

1668
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,080
That's what I thought

1669
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,080
Hard fucking work

1670
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,080
You know, I'm lazy

1671
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,080
I'm too lazy for that

1672
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,080
You have to really work hard

1673
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,080
And you don't earn anything

1674
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,080
No, very little

1675
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,080
See, and in these days I had all those hits

1676
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,080
So it was just so easy to

1677
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,080
I think you really have to work your way up

1678
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,080
And then you get a musical built around you

1679
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:46,080
As a star

1680
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,080
And you have to have a heart for it

1681
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,080
You really have to have a theater heart for it

1682
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,080
And as we know

1683
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,080
You only sing for real money, baby

1684
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,080
She worked hard for the money

1685
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,080
All right, baby

1686
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,080
Okay, let's do this again some time, okay?

1687
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,080
Okay

1688
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,080
Thank you very much

1689
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,080
Thank you for having me

1690
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,080
I love you

1691
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,080
Mr. Light

1692
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,080
I love you

1693
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:07,080
I love you too

1694
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,080
Okay

1695
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,080
But after a while I caught on

1696
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,080
I mean, I saw what they were hiring

1697
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,080
And on a scale of ten

1698
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,080
They gave me

1699
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,080
For dance ten

1700
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,080
For looks three

1701
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:23,080
Well

1702
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,080
Dance ten looks three

1703
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,080
And I'm still on unemployment

1704
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,080
Dancing for my own enjoyment

1705
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,080
That ain't it, kid

1706
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,080
That ain't it, kid

1707
01:07:33,080 --> 01:10:06,250
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