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Your daily source code from Monday may 16th 2005.

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Something remarkable is happening here.

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Radio is springing free of the regulated gatekeepers who've managed what you can hear since radio is invented.

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It's jumping into the hands of anyone at all with something or nothing to say.

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It was $16 million worth of airplane strapped to my ass.

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Then the next generation radio content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into the future.

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Hey everybody, how you doing?

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It's the start of a new week on the source code.

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Adam Curry coming to you from Curry Cottage in lovely gilford.

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A nice suburb of London in United Kingdom.

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Look out at the window not too nice today.

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The weekend was just stellar though.

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Unbelievable.

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They predicted wind and cloudy skies.

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I guess it came one day late.

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It doesn't happen often but it's good enough.

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So I had the time to just break away from all things podcasting computer.

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Anything going on in the office, basically.

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Or the bedroom that we call an office.

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Or that we sometimes call a studio.

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Patricia came back Saturday.

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Wind commander William picked her up in Rotterdam.

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And flew her over in the Sessner 182.

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Which is the plane I've been training on.

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Which I will be acquiring once I have my license and I've been deemed safe enough to make the crossing.

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Which could last half a year, nine months, ten months, man.

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That's tough stuff.

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It really has nothing at all to do with helicopter flying.

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I'll tell you that it's just something completely different.

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But I am getting a little bit more of the hang of it now.

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At least I'm making work controlled landings.

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And I'm understanding the navigation is so much better.

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Because on helicopters, you know what I mean.

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Look out the window.

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Going slow enough to see where you're going.

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If you want to turn left, right go up or down.

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It's relatively simple.

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You can slow down to a stop and mid-air.

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Just not that way with airplanes.

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So it's nice.

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We flew around to different airfields here in the neighborhood.

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I was starting, of course, from my home-based pharaohs.

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And then Booget, I'll see you on Saturday after he brought Patricia in.

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We went to...

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What was it?

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West London Aeroclob.

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That's New Barcher.

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And then Sunday we went to Goodwood, which is also just another flying club.

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And it's unbelievable.

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The culture of flying in this country is just so fantastic.

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I mean, you land there on Saturday or Sunday.

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And it's like you walk into a Biggles novel.

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You know, if you know the Biggles novels, I'll put a link to something about Biggles in the show notes for today's podcast.

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But wow.

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And there's guys all decked out and there's businessmen who are clearly on their weekend off just flying around.

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And everyone's having a good time.

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And there's like 100 people in the bar cafe.

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And just, you know, good time, food, coffee, drinks.

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Really, really nice culture.

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And normally, certainly in the Netherlands, if you come in, certainly if you come in from outside the country and say, hey, you know, it's Saturday or Sunday.

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We'd like to do some training here on your airfield.

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And of course, you have to pay for the touching goes and your overland approaches and all that.

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But most of them will say, well, you know, sorry, this is for our club members.

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And we just don't have time for you.

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But everyone was really courteous and they let us do as many touches touching goes that we needed.

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And it was just great.

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It was really a fun feeling.

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Great to be away from anything else that was going on.

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You know, just, what when you're flying this, you can basically, at least I can only think about one thing.

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That's flying because you get distracted for three seconds.

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And, you know, that could be the difference of 300 feet or it could be the difference between on track or off track or forgetting something.

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It's important that could be a real day record. So it was, it was nice.

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I find that extremely relaxing, even though I, you know, it's hard work.

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You get really tired after a couple of days of training.

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It was nice said that Patricia enjoyed her flight from Rotterdam to, to the airport here.

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Because I was a little worried that she wouldn't like the, the small single-engine aircraft vibe.

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This isn't really the smallest Cessna, by the way.

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You know, you have the two-seater, the 152, then you have the four-seater, the 172.

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And this is the 182 with retractable gear.

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I know I've talked about it a million times, but I can't get enough of it.

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It's my, my real hobby.

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And it's bigger. It's like a cab.

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It's like a taxi cab that flies.

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There was a lot of turbulence on Saturday.

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I didn't mind that at all.

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William took her up to 3,000 feet and brought her straight in for 3,000 feet all the way.

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So that is a win in my book, which means that once I am actually approved to fly by myself,

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and we can do some more that she'll go with me, and we'll have some fun together,

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and we can go exploring some really, really looking forward to that.

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If your name is Dave Weiner, you may want to pay attention to this podcast.

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Some of it pertains to you.

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But not this first song.

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This is a mashup.

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DJ Tripstrung this one together.

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Gonna be a big mashup.

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Weezer Beverly Hills Queens. We will rock you Joan Jet. I love rock and roll and Leonard Skinner's

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Sweet Home Alabama and Link in the show notes is or Link to that is and all the information about

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that mashup you can find in the show notes at dailysourceco.com or at curry.com. A lot of questions

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always come in. Usually whenever there's a new article that appears about podcasting people

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want to know what kind of equipment I use and what do I use for sound seeing tours. By the way,

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I've noticed that I guess it's the way I pronounce sound seeing tours that it often comes across

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as sound seen tours. So it took me about six or eight weeks before I figured out what are these

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people talking about sound seen? What's the sound seen? It's like a sound scape or but it's just

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misunderstanding the pronunciation sound seeing tour and it's actually a website which I have

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to update or at RSS feed. A podcast feed for different sound seeing tours. It's sound seeing

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tours.com. No wonder people haven't been able to find it. But many of the questions that come in

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on email after an article about podcasting appears are similar to this one which came in an

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audio which I like. So let's answer them right now. This is Tyler Collins from What's Really Going

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On podcast. I have a question. Number one, what is the version of your eye river?

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Okay. Oh yeah. Sorry that's the this is newfangled megaseg. The way it stops and starts.

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It's the IFP 799. I believe in Europe it's actually the 899 and I don't know if that's

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any difference in the models but the model number seems to be 899 in Europe 799 in the states.

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What I like about the eye river is you know it's a device that you can create something on and you can

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listen to something on it and it works on the same device and you can plug it on a microphone

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or you can switch the in jack to a line in. So it really has all the capabilities you need built

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into one little box and man the battery one double a alkaline battery lasts for fucking ever.

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So I think just on battery charge alone it's a great little device. As a built in radio you're

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couldn't record from the radio if you want although I'd never have I think I've only listened to the

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radio once or twice on this thing but it's a great great little great little gadget let's see

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what's next question is your talk what's going on. You use whenever you do a portable podcast

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and number two what version of cast blaster or something comparable would you suggest for a Mac

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user. I am currently using digital performer 4.5 I am a music producer and I make that work for me but

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it doesn't work on a broadcast type level to where I can throw in sweepers and promos and so forth.

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I was just wondering about that hope you're doing well. I enjoy your show and keep up the great

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work man. All right Todd thank you very much. Well I use cast blaster a lot obviously but that's only

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for the windows platform. One of my Mac and I am a Mac guy being my heart and my soul. I right

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currently I'm using something called Megaseg and I'll put another link in the show notes to that

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which may be a little bit of overkill for what most people are looking for if you're looking for

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a podcast we can line stuff up and play list. Basically a playlist where you can stop the playlist

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the midstream or stop automatically I guess the automatic part is what I use it for. You can insert

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a break and say okay stop here and I'm going to talk here and then when you want to go you just hit

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a button and it plays the next element. I started off using actually just quick time players just opening

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up each element that I wanted to play in the podcast in a quick time player and then just basically

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highlighting the player that was next and then hitting the space bar which will make it play.

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That's a real easy way but of course for recording purposes it's a little bit tougher. I have

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been using audio hijack pro their new version recently for recording because they now offer a

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capability to record the entire sound as produced on your Mac which really makes your Mac one big

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mixer and of course each individual application that you open so let's say it's a quick time or

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maybe it's a real real player or it could be a media player it could be a whole bunch of different

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things or Skype it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can hear it through the headphones

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it'll record so that I really like and you can also mix in different applications if you just want

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to hijack the microphone for instance so audio hijack pro is getting there but it certainly doesn't

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the ease of use that I'd be looking for in an application that has the interface of something like

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a cast blaster so nothing really for the Mac yet we're all kind of just string and stuff together

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what I find doesn't work for me definitely doesn't work as garage band that doesn't work for me

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what else about I think I've tried just about everything so yeah as I said currently I'm on mega

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sagging that's that's working okay for me and all this computer talk makes me want to roll out some

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pot-safe tunes from Ed Wright well it's bound to ruin my life

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Ed Wright, computer computer.

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Podsafe music on the daily source code.

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If you don't know what Podsafe music is,

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I'll reiterate the whole concept.

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We can't play licensed music on podcasts,

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whether that's just a legal issue that we have to get over,

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or if it's a financial issue or whatever it is,

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we just can't legally at this moment.

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So what happened is we have lots of,

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creating songs on the computers,

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on the computer computers,

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and making it available for podcasters to play in their podcasters

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as long as you point them back to the website.

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So of course, the link to Ed Wright's computer computer

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will be in the show notes at dailysourcecode.com.

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Found on the great podcasters,

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you know, in the broadcasting that we talk about formats

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and formats are very different from,

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well, then again, maybe not,

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but in computing and computer engineering,

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you always talk about formats.

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For instance, let's see,

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you have RSS is a format.

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It's the way that information is formatted,

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so that you can easily understand it.

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A format and broadcasting,

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the simplest way to explain it would be,

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for instance, a top 40 radio station,

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looks at a format over each hour,

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and then day parts,

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and then over 24 hour period,

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to really put a sequence of songs

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into an hour that will hold the audience the longest,

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I guess, is the only reason,

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and give you the most listening pleasure,

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of course, formats have gotten really tight,

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as we say in the business over the years

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and have become a little bit boring.

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But a typical top 44 mat may be

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where the hour starts off with a big number one smash hit,

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and then it's followed by what we call recurrent,

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so that may be something from maybe 10 years ago,

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followed by something that's up and coming,

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followed by something that's in the bottom half of the top 40,

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followed by a brand new song, so that's a format.

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That's how you fill up an hour.

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In podcasting, we're seeing formats emerge as well,

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the hit test that young Paulette does,

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and a young won't be able to do a hit test every single day,

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if at all for the next coming weeks,

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because he's in rehabilitation for

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some medical stuff he's going through,

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a young Paulette dot NL,

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as we can find out all about that,

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and listen to the hit test podcast.

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But the format of the show

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is of the little snippet that he sends into me,

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is a good one,

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it's three segments of songs that he thinks I'll know,

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and of course he gives me little snippet of the song,

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and then replays this snippet of the song,

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and then gives me a couple seconds

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of thinking time to come up with the answer,

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and then at the end he gives me the answers and plays

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on a longer pieces of the songs.

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That format has now been copied,

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which is not a bad thing,

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is great, into a podcast called

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voices from the vault.

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Jerry Orkin does this,

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and let's play along with

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the show from the sixth of May.

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I love it.

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Good day everyone,

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welcome to the second episode of Voices from the Vault.

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I've checked the stats from our website,

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and it looks like about 60 people

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downloaded the first episode of the podcast,

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so I'd like to thank everyone of you for adding me,

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to your podcast downloader.

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I've also had some very supportive feedback too,

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so thank you for that.

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I think I'll be incorporating some suggestions

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that have been made into future episodes.

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I'm going to try and do two voices

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from the Vault podcast every week,

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so stay tuned for some challenging listening

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in the weeks and months to come.

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Today I'll be playing other voices

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of three famous screen actors,

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your job is to guess who they are before I give you the answers.

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Up in your ears, and we'll begin

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with the first of today's voices from the Vault.

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Try to do as your high-the-met...

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if the... a message is a great thing.

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It's a great thing you must never tell anybody

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that there is a message at all.

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Ever.

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Did you get it?

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Try to do as your high-the-met... if the... a message is a great thing.

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It's a great thing you must never tell anybody that there is a message at all.

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Ever.

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I've already heard this show once,

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so I'll just do the answers I had when I heard the first time.

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The first one...

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Okay, this one I heard was...

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I didn't know.

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I didn't know.

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This is from the Vault.

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Sorry, dear.

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If this is the day,

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my emotional apparatus is...

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I know.

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I was plugged up with something.

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I'm convention pushing and passion pumping.

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It's not coming easy for me.

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If this is the day, my emotional apparatus

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is plugged up with something.

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I'm convention pushing and passion pumping.

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It's not coming easy for me.

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So the first time I heard this,

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I thought it was Marlon Brando,

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but I knew it was the other guy who crashed in his Porsche.

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I couldn't come with a name.

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Pretty hard one.

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This one should be a bit easier.

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Here it comes.

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Voice from the Vault.

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Number three.

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I still go back to my Prince now living Greenwich.

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And I still go back there and take a walk in everything

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still seems the same.

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Which I think is the great beauty of this country

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is that even though we're still culturally...

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We've also managed to maintain a lot of our...

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the things that make this country very special.

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I still go back to my Prince now living Greenwich.

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And I still go back there and take a walk in everything

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still seems the same.

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Which I think is the great beauty of this country

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is that even though...

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See, I thought this one was pretty easy when I heard it.

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I've heard off the bat.

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I heard the accent.

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I know it was in the cold kidmas.

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I didn't know the first two, but I certainly had this last.

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Special.

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The cold kidman.

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The cold kidman.

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Right now it's time for the answers.

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The first of today's voices from the Vault.

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Screenwriter, director, director, director.

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Mel Brooks.

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Ah, the thousand year old man.

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A thousand year old man.

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A thousand year old man.

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A message is a great thing.

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It's a great thing.

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You mustn't ever tell anybody that there is a message.

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It'll ever.

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The second voice from the Vault.

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Taken from the interview on the set of the movie

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Rebel without a cause.

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James Steeze.

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I was close.

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This is the day.

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My emotional apparatus is...

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I was plugged up or something.

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I'm convention pushing and passion pumping.

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It's not coming easy for me.

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And the final voice from the Vault.

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That very modern movie star.

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Nicole Kittman.

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I still go back to my prince now live in Greenwich.

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And I still go back there and take a walk in everything still seems the same.

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Which I think is the great beauty of this country is that even though we're still culturally

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right on top of it, we're also managed to maintain a lot of our things that make this country very special.

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Send feedback to feedback at voices from the Vault.com.

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Your suggestions are always welcome.

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Until next time.

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Goodbye from voices from the Vault.

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Jerry Orkin with voices from the Vault.

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Awesome.

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Awesome podcast.

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The highly interactive voice really works for me.

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From the Vault.

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Because the minute you're sitting there looking at your MP3 player and yelling at it, thinking

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you have the answer, I call that the epitome of interactivity.

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Absolutely fantastic.

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Love that format.

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The way it's started to morph into something new, fantastic.

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Of course, a pointer to that podcast in the show notes as well for today.

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So last Friday I was wrapping up the week.

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It had been a real long week for me.

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Patricia was out of town.

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So I was doing double duty as Mr. Mom.

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And then, do I miss all the stuff she does?

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Taking care of Christina, of course.

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And I was in the kitchen cooking.

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I had the crap top with me.

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That's my laptop.

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The tablet.

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The craplet.

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There you go.

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And I used that for Skype.

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And I can connect the iTunes on that to the iTunes up stairs in the office.

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So I can just listen to whatever's coming in.

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So I basically have one place where my podcasts are updated through my iPodder.

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And I can just stream that to any other computer I want to.

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So I only have to have it in one spot.

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Works really well.

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And I'm subscribed to Dave Winner's Morning Coffee Notes.

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And really religiously read scripting.com.

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And you can imagine how really delighted I was when I heard the end of his Friday podcast

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and he said the following.

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My name is Dave Winner.

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It's Friday the 13th.

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One more thing to call out to Adam Curry who's got his pod show on serious is Dave viewing right now as we speak.

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I wish I could listen to it.

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I don't have a serious satellite radio, but I'm going to be listening to the, you know,

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where everybody has to say about it.

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Good luck to you Adam.

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Knock him dead.

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Break a leg.

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You know, all of us that shit.

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And I don't know.

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Boy.

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Okay, everybody.

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See you all later.

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Bye.

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This is Dave.

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So you can imagine I was like really elated.

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I was so, I mean, that was such a nice thing for him to do.

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Particularly because he's starting on Friday.

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I knew that he was going to start the first podcast on KU radio in San Francisco on Monday.

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And so I was like, oh man, that's really cool.

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I got to make sure I say something back in my podcast.

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And it really had been a tough week.

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It worked very hard on putting the first four hours of serious together.

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And I knew how to work over the weekend.

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Do some more work for the coming week.

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So it was nice.

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It was just one of those things like, wow, man.

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That's, that's an olive branch for sure.

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And then over the weekend, a wired article came out written by Jenny Jardin from,

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was just a lot of things.

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Actually, it was a, a written interview from something we did on a,

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her NPR piece.

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She does a, I guess, a technology report on NPR.

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So we had a couple of chats.

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Very, very nice, by the way, I had never met her only,

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I've been reading, boring, boring.

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So it was kind of nice to get a voice to the, to the face.

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And of course, I'm trying to get her to start a podcast.

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I think she'd be perfect for one.

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And the article, it was a very flattering article.

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There was about me.

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What did she call it?

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She called it to communicate with the pod father or something like that.

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And Dave just went off on this.

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He went off on me in such an incredibly hurtful manner on scripting.com.

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He wrote, he wrote about this, this article.

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And then, you know, he calls me horrible things.

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And I was like, whoa, this, it really, really blew me away.

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And I'm not going to, you know, read what he wrote on scripting.com.

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You can go and check that out for yourself.

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And I'll put a link to it in the show notes.

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But by coincidence, I did find a kind of a mashup montage sitting on

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his server on this morning coffee note server that I, I don't know who made it.

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But it is on his server.

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So I'll, I'll share it with you.

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It's, it's called the curry collage.

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And I guess it'll give you the kind of an idea of what this article says.

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It's Adam Curry.

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You are a bitch.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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I apologize.

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I'm a dick.

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So dick some respect.

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Wacky stuff.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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You know, I'm an idiot.

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I'm an idiot.

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It's dick.

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I'm an idiot.

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You know, I'm an idiot.

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You don't get so much fat.

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I'm bad about what you're hearing that wild cherry sign.

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I was like, what's that?

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I can 70, you say 78.

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Something like that.

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Really think I give a shit.

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Oh, what a hell of dick.

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I'm a dick.

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Touch anything sniff it all.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,680
Touch it.

505
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,680
You're a bad man and you made me cry.

506
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,680
I hate you.

507
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,680
What?

508
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,680
You know, I'm an idiot.

509
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,680
He owed the key mode.

510
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,680
He owed the key mode.

511
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,680
Have you been drinking?

512
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,680
Oh, yeah.

513
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,680
Snippin TV.

514
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,680
Let's be a dick.

515
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,680
Touch anything.

516
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,680
Oh, good good.

517
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,680
What a dick.

518
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,680
That dick.

519
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:38,680
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.

520
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:44,680
At no point will you even close to anything that could be considered irrational but

521
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,680
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having left into it.

522
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,680
So that kind of sums up what Dave wrote about me and

523
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,680
Wow, I was like how am I going to respond to this?

524
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,680
I think the best way for me to respond is to kind of let you know how I feel.

525
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,680
And then I want to talk about why I think this is happening.

526
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,680
And so the first, I'll play a song now.

527
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,680
The only really way I know how to express my feelings about what's going on

528
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,680
with how this craziness.

529
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,680
Isn't it strange?

530
00:31:18,750 --> 00:34:33,750
[ Music ]

531
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,680
Roger from In Twine sums it up

532
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,680
Happy on the Daily Source Code

533
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,680
So I guess, and it's really, I don't feel happy

534
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,680
That Dave was resorted to name calling, which I think is so totally unfair

535
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,680
Because it's all about credit

536
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,680
Who created podcasting, who created this, who created that

537
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,680
What Dave accuses me of continuously is if not giving him proper credit

538
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,680
And what boggles my mind is that he would for one minute think

539
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:12,680
That when you have a publication that has editors and all kinds of people in the mix

540
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,680
And it's not a weblog that you would think that the only people

541
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,680
Who get written incorrectly about as you Dave

542
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:28,680
You know, Jenny Jardin actually was also blown away by what you wrote

543
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,680
And she said that today, Monday, she would be posting

544
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,680
The rest of the interview that was cut out by her editors

545
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,680
Where not only did I credit you but talk about all the work that you had done

546
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:48,680
But also Chris Lydon's work and many other people who contributed to podcasting as it is today

547
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,680
Including a Denny Gregoire who came up with the name

548
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,680
It's like, you know, I didn't write the interview

549
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,680
And this happens all the time

550
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,680
And this is what happened in January when we were in Miami

551
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,680
This roller coaster ride with Dave is like one day

552
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,680
It's great and then the next second it's all the way down

553
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,680
And it's very, very tiring

554
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,680
And the only thing I can really grom out of all this

555
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,680
And I've seen it happen a couple of times is that you just want to be famous

556
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:24,680
And you are, you know, and I think you don't have to go asking for credit all the time

557
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680
By the way, if you go to a bank and ask for credit, you never get it

558
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,680
So you know, don't expect any other large institution to give you credit

559
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,680
Particularly not if you might have burned some bridges

560
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,680
Because, you know, sometimes you come across very crass

561
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,680
And people who hold the microphone or hold the camera

562
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,680
Remember that shit and they may not be holding it forever

563
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,680
But, you know, don't expect them to turn around and be giving you credit

564
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,680
Which is totally within the control of the person who has the credit to give

565
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,680
Which is not me, it's the publications who are publicizing this

566
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,680
I've written all the time about the work that you've done

567
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,680
And I'm not going to go back and call every single interview

568
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,680
Or tell them that they're an idiot or that they're a dickhead

569
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,680
The words you used, you know, on me

570
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,680
Because they wrote their story, it's the story they were interested in writing

571
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,680
So, it's very, very unfortunate

572
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,680
And I really can only chalk it up to the fact that you feel that you just not famous

573
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,680
Be careful what you wish for

574
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,680
I want to be famous, I want to wear minks and sattens and pearls

575
00:37:28,750 --> 00:38:38,750
[ Music ]

576
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Talk to my assistant

577
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,680
I want to be famous, I want to have eyes as blue as the sea

578
00:38:46,680 --> 00:39:15,680
[ Music ]

579
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,680
When I'm famous, famous, famous

580
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,680
So exhausting

581
00:39:26,250 --> 00:40:34,680
[ Music ]

582
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,680
Then ask that the throats of my enemies

583
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,680
Man, I want to be famous, I want to have eyes as blue as the sea

584
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:49,680
I want to be my famous better than all of my fellow much better than all of her

585
00:40:49,680 --> 00:41:21,250
[ Music ]

586
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,680
Philosophia's, famous on the source of code of apologies for the dropout

587
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,680
My Mac is not cooperating as it usually does

588
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,680
So I've been famous in one form another since I was 19 years old and believe me

589
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:42,680
There's not been a single single interview or publication anywhere that has gotten the story completely right

590
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:49,680
And it's just the way it goes and people take pot shots at you all the time and say the most mean and hurtful things

591
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,680
And often they think, hey, you know, you're a celebrity, you know, deal with it

592
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,680
Or that's what you could pay for when you're in the public, you know

593
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,680
That's why I've been such a supporter of Michael Jackson

594
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Because I, you know, certainly knowing him having met him once or twice, you know, I, you know, this just certain things I don't

595
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:12,680
I don't buy into and I know how it can spin out a control and Dave is doing a real good job

596
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:19,680
But you're really making me look bad and it's just not fair because this is the way publications go

597
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,680
And I'd suggest you go out and, you know, do some interviews and put your story out there

598
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:31,680
And, you know, and get your voice heard or if you don't believe in the mainstream media

599
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,680
They don't read it, you know, that's just the way it goes

600
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:39,680
You should know much better than that and it's really disappointing to hear the way you think of me

601
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:47,680
So, I will leave all of us now with the very wise words of Connie Francis

602
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,680
And it's the last I'm going to say about her

603
00:42:51,250 --> 00:45:21,250
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