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Oh, here she is again, our pot.

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A lot of people reacted.

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Oh yeah, that's a pot.

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Our Marlene. Wait a second, I need to...

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Terrible attitude, do you think?

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Wait, I have to do the disclaimer for a moment.

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Just a moment, Marlene.

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The intellectual property of this podcast is at peace with Currie Pie.

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Unreliable use of any material from this podcast

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forms an impact on copyright, copyright and copyright of Currie and Pie.

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It's a pity that you're sitting there like this.

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Who said it? Normally, or me, by her.

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But necessary.

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Yes, oh man.

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It's really terrible.

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Hey, everyone, this is a right for the podcast.

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The second one.

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Today is Tuesday, what is it, the 17th?

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May 17th, right?

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Yes.

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Miss, what? Wait a minute, is there something?

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What?

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My mother is 21-year-old.

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Oh shit, how late is it?

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How late is it?

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Let's see.

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In New York it's 5.30 am, in San Francisco it's 5.30 am.

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Oh shit.

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How late is it? We still have time.

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Yes, we still have time.

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I already know what they want.

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They want a big ball of wheat now.

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And now they have it.

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Yes, but is that nice?

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But then you have to tell them.

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Have you told them?

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Yes.

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Yes, my mother is still young.

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Yes, my mother is very young.

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She is 65 years old, isn't she?

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65, 64 years old, isn't she?

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No.

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66?

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Yes.

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Sure?

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Yes, 10 years older than me.

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And she is 66 years old, I think that's it.

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And she has, with the year change,

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right before that, she was diagnosed with cancer, lung cancer.

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And she was able to get a long way and she lives.

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She can live happily.

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Yes, that is of course unfucking believable.

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But she has a lot of pain, of course.

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She has a lot of pain.

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Of the operation.

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And that is also a pretty bad year that you have, a long period of time.

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You are completely open-minded and broken-knit and cut.

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Cut and saw.

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What do you think?

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Oh man.

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So she has tried everything and I still say, take a nice beer.

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Not smoking, of course.

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Well, you then have to say, try that now.

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Try that now.

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Yes.

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And ...

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Yes, she says, because she hasn't seen it in the Hermes family.

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Yes, she doesn't dare to, because I once made tea for you and you were going to hallucinate.

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Yes, yes, hello.

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It's a whole tree.

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Stronk.

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God, of course.

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I had flicked it.

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No, so there was a nervousness about it and I then ... and she called me, right before mother's

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day.

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A couple of days before.

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She said, well, I just want to try everything, now I don't care.

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I say, well, I'll send it.

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So I called taxi Eric, of course, yes, I can still say that taxi Eric reacted.

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You can't buy it in the Netherlands, it's not against the law.

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At least it is.

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Well, yes, let the boy rest.

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Ah, he thinks that's nice.

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And well, so they say, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah, blah.

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And she called the next day and said, well, I made soup of it, I can record the recipe

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on the Internet.

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Yes, that didn't help.

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I had a lot of flicking in there.

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It was so dirty.

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I didn't get rid of it.

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Yes.

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She said, no, make some tea and then it came back to the story of you up there.

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Yes, it doesn't, it doesn't, you see, if you just put tea in it, make it

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deliciously strong and then you put a delicious cup of tea with your favorite flavor.

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A little bit delicious, apple cinnamon and then you add a little bit of that white sap.

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Sap.

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Sap.

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And then you do it just as long as you think, yes, yes, now that's possible and then you

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know right away how strong you want it and then it's delicious.

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So that's what she did and she called me on Mother's Day at night and I had already

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spoken to her, of course, and she said, I don't know if I'm a stone, but the pain is completely

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gone.

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I said, well, you're right, I'm not talking about it, mom.

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Yes, so.

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Well, that was fun.

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Well, that's fantastic.

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And we heard that in Jamaica.

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Yes, of the Jamaican, how do you say my wife?

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Moodetjes.

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Yes, Moodetjes.

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Carol.

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Carol.

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Carol.

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Yes, and the Jamaican mothers, oh, shit, the skype, I don't know, in any case, they told

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me that if the children, for example, keep crying when they're just born, and they have

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it, because that can be very painful for babies, that they come to the world anyway, and then

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they give it to me.

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I've seen it from inside.

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Yes.

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No kidding.

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And then they give the babies, yes, incredibly, a little bit in their bottle so that they can

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smell it.

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Yes, a little bit of VT.

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Because they like to sleep.

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I said, no way.

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That's why the guests are walking out all day.

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They are walking out right away.

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Yes, they are very relaxed, they look very healthy, they eat healthy, so yes, just like

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the Indians, they do something good.

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Hey, there is, by the way, good news.

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Well.

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I can buy your domain name.

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I've heard that.

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PatriciaPie.nl.

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So let's see, because it's on ebay, and you can offer it, so someone has registered it

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once.

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Yes, but for the, in any case, for the transaction, I don't offer it.

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Let's see.

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No, of course not.

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No, I know.

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But we can buy it, let's see what the price is.

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So you're telling me, but I didn't know that it was like that.

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Let's see if I can find it.

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PatriciaPie.nl.

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No, oh, I have to wait on ebay, wait a minute, that was it.

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Yes, my mother told me that it was on, on the show Niels, I believe.

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A good program, of course.

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Yes, great program, new presenters.

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And how does it do, by the way?

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Do we know that already?

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A bit dull, I believe.

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A bit, she's not completely gone yet.

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That Anouk.

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Anouk.

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And then she told, or she had to, of course, tell, because that's not Niels.

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That yes, the domain name, and that does not know what it means.

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That was the website address.

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Patricia sold her name, because, and here it comes,

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Adam will need it, because he has 2.5 million debt.

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Yes, so that's why I'm selling my name.

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Can I maybe help you with this?

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Yes, do you have 2.5 million for me?

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Just a moment.

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Well, we'll tell you that, because I heard people want to know that so much.

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Here, the starting point is 50 euros.

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You can now buy it for 1000 euros.

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I don't think it's worth it.

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No, I don't need it.

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I'm not in the business.

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And no one has offered, no offers.

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So, there you go.

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Well, save it for those 2.5 million, right?

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Oh man, hey, it's, it's again,

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what is it, one and a half weeks ago,

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that we did a law-abiding podcast?

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Yes, and we thought, well, we got nice reactions.

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Let's be honest, we got really nice reactions.

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And now, only because it's announced,

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all the people who say, it's also in English.

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And you play it again from her songs.

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Yes.

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They also want to hear your music.

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Yes, but in English, it just has to be other information.

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But you also have to do that once with nice music.

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It's also fun to do.

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But I find it difficult.

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I mean, my English isn't bad,

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but if I really have to tell something,

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then I think, shit.

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You're not Flabbergasted in any case.

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Yes, of course.

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Yes, of course.

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Yes, that's Peter.

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Peter the homo.

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Yes, Peter, my hood, he tells me.

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He's also my hood, but he can't,

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he doesn't manage it for me.

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He's only with you.

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I don't think so.

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Yes, he comes home and says,

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with very nice brown hair,

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better people, by the way,

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Patricia has a very nice brown hair.

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Yes, from there that I was just with Peter.

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Yes, but wait a minute, I can tell you.

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And then they come home,

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and then I have completely managed it.

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William flew over there,

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and then it's like, well, you see it,

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that's if the rat has forgotten about your hair.

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No.

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If you see it, you'll see it.

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They come to pick me up.

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Yes, I'm completely,

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I have dressed as beautifully as possible,

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because I hadn't seen you in a week.

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You surprise with beautiful dark hair.

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Yes.

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Because I know that's beautiful for two years.

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Yes.

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That's 20 years ago,

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that I had dark brown hair.

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Yes, then I was 12.

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And then you stand there,

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and you have a beard,

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and your hair didn't come.

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No.

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And you just have a crazy blouse,

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and then I think, hello.

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But I went flying afterwards.

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Are you now in love or not?

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Yes, do you think so?

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Do you think so?

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Ah, do you think so?

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You know that, right?

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Yes.

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Did I do it well later?

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Yes, you did it well.

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Certainly.

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And did you do it better in the evening?

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You can do better in the evening.

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Okay.

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So you heard something from Pieter.

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No, Pieter.

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You know that he is not a fan of Connie at all.

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Connie Breukhove.

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That is.

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And so he always says something.

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Oh, because do you know

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that she was so angry that we spoke English?

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I can still remember that.

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Yes.

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That little child of mine.

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Yes, you and Christina.

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Yes.

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She said, as always, she speaks English to you,

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and you speak Dutch back.

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Yes.

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We speak everything together.

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And because Christina is always at English school,

269
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so she speaks English all day.

270
00:09:37,740 --> 00:09:39,740
And that is now actually again,

271
00:09:39,740 --> 00:09:40,740
but we did that in,

272
00:09:40,740 --> 00:09:41,740
they heard that then,

273
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and they heard that all over the Netherlands,

274
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that Christina said things in English.

275
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Yes.

276
00:09:47,740 --> 00:09:51,740
And then she was very angry about it.

277
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Angry?

278
00:09:52,740 --> 00:09:53,740
Yes, very angry.

279
00:09:53,740 --> 00:09:55,740
So she speaks English to you,

280
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and the story went on and on.

281
00:09:56,740 --> 00:09:57,740
Oh, yes, yes.

282
00:09:57,740 --> 00:09:58,740
Well, the Dutch were themselves,

283
00:09:58,740 --> 00:09:59,740
no, you're right,

284
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because that was really alive then.

285
00:10:01,740 --> 00:10:03,740
Then you also get Peter and Jo Rens,

286
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who make such a strip drawing.

287
00:10:04,740 --> 00:10:05,740
Yes.

288
00:10:05,740 --> 00:10:07,740
And there was also a joke about,

289
00:10:07,740 --> 00:10:09,740
I watched too much of Adam's Family.

290
00:10:09,740 --> 00:10:10,740
Yes, exactly.

291
00:10:10,740 --> 00:10:11,740
Because everyone was talking about it.

292
00:10:11,740 --> 00:10:12,740
Yes.

293
00:10:12,740 --> 00:10:13,740
That is so much English.

294
00:10:13,740 --> 00:10:14,740
But the fun is,

295
00:10:14,740 --> 00:10:16,740
because I have now seen that again,

296
00:10:16,740 --> 00:10:18,740
that you know that I was in the Netherlands,

297
00:10:18,740 --> 00:10:20,740
everyone does it now,

298
00:10:20,740 --> 00:10:23,740
everyone uses English words.

299
00:10:23,740 --> 00:10:24,740
Unreliable,

300
00:10:24,740 --> 00:10:26,740
because you are sitting in such a small country.

301
00:10:26,740 --> 00:10:27,740
So many foreign countries,

302
00:10:27,740 --> 00:10:28,740
you have to do so.

303
00:10:28,740 --> 00:10:29,740
Unreliable.

304
00:10:29,740 --> 00:10:30,740
Because no one speaks Dutch.

305
00:10:30,740 --> 00:10:31,740
The fun was then,

306
00:10:31,740 --> 00:10:32,740
and Peter told that,

307
00:10:32,740 --> 00:10:34,740
that in contrast you could also mean it,

308
00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:35,740
try it,

309
00:10:35,740 --> 00:10:37,740
but it doesn't seem so good to be able to speak English.

310
00:10:37,740 --> 00:10:38,740
So that is,

311
00:10:38,740 --> 00:10:39,740
he had a word,

312
00:10:39,740 --> 00:10:40,740
Flappergeisted.

313
00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:41,740
I am,

314
00:10:41,740 --> 00:10:43,740
I am Flappergeisted.

315
00:10:43,740 --> 00:10:44,740
Okay, for the right order,

316
00:10:44,740 --> 00:10:45,740
this is Flappergeisted.

317
00:10:45,740 --> 00:10:46,740
Yes.

318
00:10:46,740 --> 00:10:47,740
Not Flappergeisted.

319
00:10:47,740 --> 00:10:48,740
Buckeisted.

320
00:10:48,740 --> 00:10:49,740
Flappergeisted.

321
00:10:49,740 --> 00:10:50,740
Yes.

322
00:10:50,740 --> 00:10:51,740
Oh, that's good.

323
00:10:51,740 --> 00:10:52,740
Let's have a look,

324
00:10:52,740 --> 00:10:53,740
I have to tell you something.

325
00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:54,740
Oh yes,

326
00:10:54,740 --> 00:10:56,740
the new website,

327
00:10:56,740 --> 00:10:57,740
Glossup.nl.

328
00:10:57,740 --> 00:10:59,740
Yes, I heard it.

329
00:10:59,740 --> 00:11:00,740
My God,

330
00:11:00,740 --> 00:11:01,740
this is,

331
00:11:01,740 --> 00:11:03,740
what I find so fun here.

332
00:11:03,740 --> 00:11:04,740
Wow,

333
00:11:04,740 --> 00:11:05,740
you watched it, right?

334
00:11:05,740 --> 00:11:06,740
Yes, yes, yes.

335
00:11:06,740 --> 00:11:07,740
Did you snuff it?

336
00:11:07,740 --> 00:11:08,740
Yes, they have three movies online.

337
00:11:08,740 --> 00:11:09,740
One of Patty Brart,

338
00:11:09,740 --> 00:11:10,740
one of,

339
00:11:10,740 --> 00:11:12,740
the photo book of Govert,

340
00:11:12,740 --> 00:11:13,740
of her party,

341
00:11:13,740 --> 00:11:14,740
Govert de Roos,

342
00:11:14,740 --> 00:11:15,740
of the screening,

343
00:11:15,740 --> 00:11:16,740
where we are not in,

344
00:11:16,740 --> 00:11:17,740
but we are,

345
00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:18,740
We have asked me a hundred times,

346
00:11:18,740 --> 00:11:19,740
but I say,

347
00:11:19,740 --> 00:11:20,740
I can't cry now,

348
00:11:20,740 --> 00:11:21,740
sorry.

349
00:11:21,740 --> 00:11:22,740
Yes, I have to cry,

350
00:11:22,740 --> 00:11:23,740
I have to cry,

351
00:11:23,740 --> 00:11:24,740
I can't cry on command.

352
00:11:24,740 --> 00:11:25,740
Yes, he asked me too,

353
00:11:25,740 --> 00:11:26,740
it's not really that much,

354
00:11:26,740 --> 00:11:27,740
I know.

355
00:11:27,740 --> 00:11:28,740
No,

356
00:11:28,740 --> 00:11:29,740
I usually laugh a lot.

357
00:11:29,740 --> 00:11:30,740
Yes,

358
00:11:30,740 --> 00:11:31,740
yes, always.

359
00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:32,740
Yes,

360
00:11:32,740 --> 00:11:33,740
it's always LOL,

361
00:11:33,740 --> 00:11:34,740
and I know it for so long.

362
00:11:34,740 --> 00:11:35,740
It doesn't matter,

363
00:11:35,740 --> 00:11:36,740
it doesn't matter.

364
00:11:36,740 --> 00:11:37,740
But now,

365
00:11:37,740 --> 00:11:38,740
and then there was something else,

366
00:11:38,740 --> 00:11:39,740
oh yes,

367
00:11:39,740 --> 00:11:40,740
Robert Schumacher,

368
00:11:40,740 --> 00:11:41,740
with his new girlfriend,

369
00:11:41,740 --> 00:11:42,740
yes,

370
00:11:42,740 --> 00:11:43,740
it's from the Swan,

371
00:11:43,740 --> 00:11:44,740
I believe,

372
00:11:44,740 --> 00:11:45,740
she said,

373
00:11:45,740 --> 00:11:46,740
I know it,

374
00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:47,740
it was a PR lady

375
00:11:47,740 --> 00:11:49,740
of Endemol,

376
00:11:49,740 --> 00:11:50,740
and it wasn't the same,

377
00:11:50,740 --> 00:11:51,740
we saw each other.

378
00:11:51,740 --> 00:11:52,740
Oh,

379
00:11:52,740 --> 00:11:53,740
you didn't laugh,

380
00:11:53,740 --> 00:11:54,740
with each other?

381
00:11:54,740 --> 00:11:55,740
No,

382
00:11:55,740 --> 00:11:57,740
I don't need a PR lady.

383
00:11:57,740 --> 00:11:58,740
She says,

384
00:11:58,740 --> 00:11:59,740
look at my weblog,

385
00:11:59,740 --> 00:12:00,740
and then she sends me a lady,

386
00:12:00,740 --> 00:12:01,740
and then I get the rules.

387
00:12:01,740 --> 00:12:02,740
Go away.

388
00:12:02,740 --> 00:12:03,740
No,

389
00:12:03,740 --> 00:12:04,740
yes,

390
00:12:04,740 --> 00:12:05,740
it was,

391
00:12:05,740 --> 00:12:06,740
it was a very difficult period for me,

392
00:12:06,740 --> 00:12:07,740
dear,

393
00:12:07,740 --> 00:12:08,740
it was,

394
00:12:08,740 --> 00:12:09,740
the period,

395
00:12:09,740 --> 00:12:11,740
so she had to do PR for it,

396
00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:12,740
I was cut.

397
00:12:12,740 --> 00:12:13,740
Oh,

398
00:12:13,740 --> 00:12:14,740
okay,

399
00:12:14,740 --> 00:12:15,740
it could have been hard,

400
00:12:15,740 --> 00:12:16,740
but good,

401
00:12:16,740 --> 00:12:17,740
so this is a website,

402
00:12:17,740 --> 00:12:18,740
and,

403
00:12:18,740 --> 00:12:19,740
yes?

404
00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:21,740
there are real preparations,

405
00:12:21,740 --> 00:12:23,740
and those films are just,

406
00:12:23,740 --> 00:12:24,740
really long,

407
00:12:24,740 --> 00:12:25,740
but unassembled,

408
00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:26,740
or yes,

409
00:12:26,740 --> 00:12:27,740
not unassembled,

410
00:12:27,740 --> 00:12:28,740
but they really send all those things out,

411
00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:30,740
that you never see on television.

412
00:12:30,740 --> 00:12:31,740
So actually,

413
00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:32,740
the truth?

414
00:12:32,740 --> 00:12:33,740
Yes,

415
00:12:33,740 --> 00:12:34,740
only then,

416
00:12:34,740 --> 00:12:35,740
because on the internet,

417
00:12:35,740 --> 00:12:36,740
you can just go through,

418
00:12:36,740 --> 00:12:37,740
and if you want,

419
00:12:37,740 --> 00:12:38,740
10 or 6 or 10 minutes,

420
00:12:38,740 --> 00:12:39,740
you can talk about it.

421
00:12:39,740 --> 00:12:40,740
And then nobody can say,

422
00:12:40,740 --> 00:12:41,740
yes,

423
00:12:41,740 --> 00:12:42,740
but I wasn't there.

424
00:12:42,740 --> 00:12:43,740
I wasn't there.

425
00:12:43,740 --> 00:12:44,740
No, no, no, no,

426
00:12:44,740 --> 00:12:45,740
you see that Schumacher,

427
00:12:45,740 --> 00:12:46,740
also,

428
00:12:46,740 --> 00:12:47,740
sitting outside with that Claudia,

429
00:12:47,740 --> 00:12:48,740
in Belgium,

430
00:12:48,740 --> 00:12:49,740
we know exactly that house,

431
00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:50,740
you've been there,

432
00:12:50,740 --> 00:12:51,740
and Max Plas,

433
00:12:51,740 --> 00:12:52,740
Max Plas,

434
00:12:52,740 --> 00:12:53,740
what,

435
00:12:53,740 --> 00:12:54,740
Max Plas?

436
00:12:54,740 --> 00:12:55,740
Yes,

437
00:12:55,740 --> 00:12:56,740
it's on where we live.

438
00:12:56,740 --> 00:12:57,740
Nice house,

439
00:12:57,740 --> 00:12:58,740
nice house.

440
00:12:58,740 --> 00:12:59,740
It was really the end of the road,

441
00:12:59,740 --> 00:13:00,740
where we live.

442
00:13:00,740 --> 00:13:01,740
And you see her,

443
00:13:01,740 --> 00:13:02,740
with Mo's,

444
00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:03,740
with a child,

445
00:13:03,740 --> 00:13:04,740
you see Claudia,

446
00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:05,740
bringing the angels,

447
00:13:05,740 --> 00:13:06,740
yes, that's fun,

448
00:13:06,740 --> 00:13:07,740
and then you have to watch

449
00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:08,740
how she brings the angels,

450
00:13:08,740 --> 00:13:09,740
completely uninterested.

451
00:13:09,740 --> 00:13:10,740
Look at you,

452
00:13:10,740 --> 00:13:11,740
that bread,

453
00:13:11,740 --> 00:13:12,740
so in the water.

454
00:13:12,740 --> 00:13:13,740
Would you have to go with that

455
00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:14,740
fucking child,

456
00:13:14,740 --> 00:13:15,740
bringing the angels?

457
00:13:15,740 --> 00:13:16,740
And the woman,

458
00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:17,740
it's very fun,

459
00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:18,740
because the woman,

460
00:13:18,740 --> 00:13:19,740
the woman,

461
00:13:19,740 --> 00:13:20,740
she has also been,

462
00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:21,740
beyond sin,

463
00:13:21,740 --> 00:13:22,740
a radio show,

464
00:13:22,740 --> 00:13:23,740
with Veronica,

465
00:13:23,740 --> 00:13:24,740
a sweet girl,

466
00:13:24,740 --> 00:13:25,740
and she's so nice,

467
00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:26,740
so nice,

468
00:13:26,740 --> 00:13:27,740
and that interviewer,

469
00:13:27,740 --> 00:13:28,740
that really asks

470
00:13:28,740 --> 00:13:29,740
crazy questions,

471
00:13:29,740 --> 00:13:30,740
like,

472
00:13:30,740 --> 00:13:31,740
do you wanna one night stand?

473
00:13:31,740 --> 00:13:32,740
Who interviewed her,

474
00:13:32,740 --> 00:13:33,740
then?

475
00:13:33,740 --> 00:13:34,740
Rob Furentz.

476
00:13:34,740 --> 00:13:35,740
Oh,

477
00:13:35,740 --> 00:13:36,740
from the...

478
00:13:36,740 --> 00:13:37,740
Party?

479
00:13:37,740 --> 00:13:38,740
From the party.

480
00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:39,740
Do you work with the party now?

481
00:13:39,740 --> 00:13:40,740
Or do you still work with the party?

482
00:13:40,740 --> 00:13:41,740
I don't know,

483
00:13:41,740 --> 00:13:42,740
maybe not anymore.

484
00:13:42,740 --> 00:13:43,740
But then you have to pay

485
00:13:43,740 --> 00:13:44,740
for those films.

486
00:13:44,740 --> 00:13:45,740
Well,

487
00:13:45,740 --> 00:13:46,740
in any case,

488
00:13:46,740 --> 00:13:48,740
what I understand is that,

489
00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:49,740
and I think this is the nice thing about it,

490
00:13:49,740 --> 00:13:50,740
that those films

491
00:13:50,740 --> 00:13:51,740
interest me,

492
00:13:51,740 --> 00:13:52,740
as for the door,

493
00:13:52,740 --> 00:13:53,740
I'm really going to

494
00:13:53,740 --> 00:13:54,740
stick with a piece of wood,

495
00:13:54,740 --> 00:13:55,740
but,

496
00:13:55,740 --> 00:13:56,740
what I like so much,

497
00:13:56,740 --> 00:13:57,740
is that,

498
00:13:57,740 --> 00:13:58,740
for them,

499
00:13:58,740 --> 00:13:59,740
it's a rap and a roar,

500
00:13:59,740 --> 00:14:00,740
I heard that first.

501
00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:02,740
Oh, they don't like that, of course.

502
00:14:02,740 --> 00:14:03,740
No,

503
00:14:03,740 --> 00:14:04,740
because then you suddenly play

504
00:14:04,740 --> 00:14:05,740
in the backyard.

505
00:14:05,740 --> 00:14:06,740
So,

506
00:14:06,740 --> 00:14:07,740
it's actually...

507
00:14:07,740 --> 00:14:08,740
I do a little bit of what we had

508
00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:09,740
with the Hermes family,

509
00:14:09,740 --> 00:14:10,740
you know,

510
00:14:10,740 --> 00:14:11,740
we were going to do that ourselves,

511
00:14:11,740 --> 00:14:12,740
and that means...

512
00:14:12,740 --> 00:14:13,740
Yes,

513
00:14:13,740 --> 00:14:14,740
we have to tell it like this,

514
00:14:14,740 --> 00:14:15,740
but it's fun,

515
00:14:15,740 --> 00:14:16,740
it's fun.

516
00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:17,740
So,

517
00:14:17,740 --> 00:14:18,740
they make it themselves,

518
00:14:18,740 --> 00:14:19,740
and they just do it...

519
00:14:19,740 --> 00:14:20,740
Yes,

520
00:14:20,740 --> 00:14:21,740
they don't like that.

521
00:14:21,740 --> 00:14:22,740
No,

522
00:14:22,740 --> 00:14:23,740
because that's only reserved

523
00:14:23,740 --> 00:14:24,740
for boulevards and showtime,

524
00:14:24,740 --> 00:14:25,740
or something like that.

525
00:14:25,740 --> 00:14:26,740
They can do that.

526
00:14:26,740 --> 00:14:27,740
They can do that.

527
00:14:27,740 --> 00:14:28,740
And what does Albert think of it?

528
00:14:28,740 --> 00:14:29,740
He can do that too.

529
00:14:29,740 --> 00:14:30,740
No,

530
00:14:30,740 --> 00:14:31,740
he's mean.

531
00:14:31,740 --> 00:14:32,740
Yes,

532
00:14:32,740 --> 00:14:33,740
because cats,

533
00:14:33,740 --> 00:14:34,740
I didn't see that,

534
00:14:34,740 --> 00:14:35,740
but apparently Peter Erdogan

535
00:14:35,740 --> 00:14:37,740
even had that over him.

536
00:14:37,740 --> 00:14:38,740
He doesn't do anything else.

537
00:14:38,740 --> 00:14:40,740
He always walks with the camera.

538
00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:42,740
And then he jumps over it himself.

539
00:14:42,740 --> 00:14:43,740
So,

540
00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:44,740
what I like,

541
00:14:44,740 --> 00:14:45,740
is that,

542
00:14:45,740 --> 00:14:46,740
yes,

543
00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:47,740
is that finally,

544
00:14:47,740 --> 00:14:48,740
the Bladum,

545
00:14:48,740 --> 00:14:49,740
also the gossip programs,

546
00:14:49,740 --> 00:14:50,740
they are now getting

547
00:14:50,740 --> 00:14:51,740
a run for the money.

548
00:14:51,740 --> 00:14:52,740
Oh, sorry,

549
00:14:52,740 --> 00:14:53,740
I just wanted to say

550
00:14:53,740 --> 00:14:54,740
a run for the money.

551
00:14:54,740 --> 00:14:55,740
Yes,

552
00:14:55,740 --> 00:14:56,740
it's very American.

553
00:14:56,740 --> 00:14:57,740
Yes,

554
00:14:57,740 --> 00:14:58,740
I have seen a few movies

555
00:14:58,740 --> 00:14:59,740
from America,

556
00:14:59,740 --> 00:15:01,740
in which the stars

557
00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:02,740
just come out of the club,

558
00:15:02,740 --> 00:15:03,740
you know that.

559
00:15:03,740 --> 00:15:04,740
Yes,

560
00:15:04,740 --> 00:15:05,740
but then,

561
00:15:05,740 --> 00:15:06,740
but then let it go.

562
00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:07,740
And that is,

563
00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:08,740
it is very calm,

564
00:15:08,740 --> 00:15:09,740
and you can really establish a bit,

565
00:15:09,740 --> 00:15:10,740
and then you can see

566
00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:11,740
what's going on in the background.

567
00:15:11,740 --> 00:15:12,740
It's not 30 seconds.

568
00:15:12,740 --> 00:15:13,740
It's always connected.

569
00:15:13,740 --> 00:15:14,740
No,

570
00:15:14,740 --> 00:15:15,740
it's not connected.

571
00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:16,740
No.

572
00:15:16,740 --> 00:15:17,740
It's all the big pieces now.

573
00:15:17,740 --> 00:15:18,740
Yes,

574
00:15:18,740 --> 00:15:19,740
because we know that

575
00:15:19,740 --> 00:15:20,740
as long as

576
00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:21,740
Jean-Lucie

577
00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:22,740
came to our house

578
00:15:22,740 --> 00:15:23,740
and then

579
00:15:23,740 --> 00:15:24,740
you did a nice interview

580
00:15:24,740 --> 00:15:25,740
and then you thought,

581
00:15:25,740 --> 00:15:26,740
well,

582
00:15:26,740 --> 00:15:27,740
it has a head and a star.

583
00:15:27,740 --> 00:15:28,740
Now people understand it.

584
00:15:28,740 --> 00:15:29,740
Yes.

585
00:15:29,740 --> 00:15:30,740
And then you saw it

586
00:15:30,740 --> 00:15:31,740
on TV,

587
00:15:31,740 --> 00:15:32,740
but I didn't say that.

588
00:15:32,740 --> 00:15:33,740
No.

589
00:15:33,740 --> 00:15:34,740
No,

590
00:15:34,740 --> 00:15:35,740
then they take one rule out of it,

591
00:15:35,740 --> 00:15:36,740
something,

592
00:15:36,740 --> 00:15:37,740
that's just how it works.

593
00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:38,740
A quote.

594
00:15:38,740 --> 00:15:39,740
A quote,

595
00:15:39,740 --> 00:15:40,740
and then they build the story around it.

596
00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:41,740
And then they call it something weird.

597
00:15:41,740 --> 00:15:42,740
Well, most of the time.

598
00:15:42,740 --> 00:15:43,740
And then you get your quote.

599
00:15:43,740 --> 00:15:44,740
Yes,

600
00:15:44,740 --> 00:15:45,740
yes.

601
00:15:45,740 --> 00:15:46,740
And then you see it out,

602
00:15:46,740 --> 00:15:47,740
and then you think,

603
00:15:47,740 --> 00:15:48,740
well, it looks like a joke.

604
00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:49,740
Yes.

605
00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:50,740
Yes.

606
00:15:50,740 --> 00:15:51,740
Right?

607
00:15:51,740 --> 00:15:52,740
Then you get an idiot about it.

608
00:15:52,740 --> 00:15:53,740
Yes,

609
00:15:53,740 --> 00:15:54,740
you know that in that program.

610
00:15:54,740 --> 00:15:55,740
Yes,

611
00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:56,740
so now,

612
00:15:56,740 --> 00:15:57,740
what you say,

613
00:15:57,740 --> 00:15:58,740
you can see it for a long time.

614
00:15:58,740 --> 00:15:59,740
You can see the whole movie.

615
00:15:59,740 --> 00:16:00,740
Yes,

616
00:16:00,740 --> 00:16:01,740
yes,

617
00:16:01,740 --> 00:16:02,740
it's really fun.

618
00:16:02,740 --> 00:16:03,740
People watch it.

619
00:16:03,740 --> 00:16:04,740
I'm curious.

620
00:16:04,740 --> 00:16:05,740
Yes.

621
00:16:05,740 --> 00:16:06,740
Good.

622
00:16:06,740 --> 00:16:08,740
Hello baby,

623
00:16:08,740 --> 00:16:09,740
I missed you.

624
00:16:09,740 --> 00:16:10,740
Yes,

625
00:16:10,740 --> 00:16:11,740
I missed you too.

626
00:16:11,740 --> 00:16:12,740
I missed you in the podcast.

627
00:16:12,740 --> 00:16:13,740
Yes,

628
00:16:13,740 --> 00:16:14,740
but everyone was waiting for the weekend.

629
00:16:14,740 --> 00:16:15,740
Where is he?

630
00:16:15,740 --> 00:16:17,740
Is he still coming to the podcast?

631
00:16:17,740 --> 00:16:18,740
Yes,

632
00:16:18,740 --> 00:16:20,740
I was a little bit to the Netherlands.

633
00:16:20,740 --> 00:16:21,740
At first,

634
00:16:21,740 --> 00:16:22,740
I liked it

635
00:16:22,740 --> 00:16:24,740
because my mother was old.

636
00:16:24,740 --> 00:16:25,740
Yes.

637
00:16:25,740 --> 00:16:27,740
So I was surprised

638
00:16:27,740 --> 00:16:28,740
to see

639
00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:30,740
what they are still active and lively

640
00:16:30,740 --> 00:16:32,740
and what they are fun.

641
00:16:32,740 --> 00:16:34,740
Are they both 79 now?

642
00:16:34,740 --> 00:16:35,740
Yes,

643
00:16:35,740 --> 00:16:37,740
my mother is now 79.

644
00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:38,740
So in November,

645
00:16:38,740 --> 00:16:39,740
my father is 80.

646
00:16:39,740 --> 00:16:40,740
Well,

647
00:16:40,740 --> 00:16:41,740
I'm going to count it all.

648
00:16:41,740 --> 00:16:42,740
Because that doesn't sound like it.

649
00:16:42,740 --> 00:16:43,740
No,

650
00:16:43,740 --> 00:16:45,740
but with a 4 double bypass.

651
00:16:45,740 --> 00:16:46,740
Yes,

652
00:16:46,740 --> 00:16:47,740
that man.

653
00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:48,740
80 years old.

654
00:16:48,740 --> 00:16:49,740
That's still modern.

655
00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:50,740
The Netherlands.

656
00:16:50,740 --> 00:16:51,740
That's great.

657
00:16:51,740 --> 00:16:52,740
I have inherited the Netherlands.

658
00:16:52,740 --> 00:16:53,740
Yes,

659
00:16:53,740 --> 00:16:54,740
but I think

660
00:16:54,740 --> 00:16:55,740
you see your prospects.

661
00:16:55,740 --> 00:16:56,740
They are good.

662
00:16:56,740 --> 00:16:57,740
Because if you are 80,

663
00:16:57,740 --> 00:16:59,740
then you have a promise.

664
00:16:59,740 --> 00:17:00,740
Yes, yes, yes.

665
00:17:00,740 --> 00:17:02,740
Then you have to go to hell.

666
00:17:02,740 --> 00:17:03,740
Yes,

667
00:17:03,740 --> 00:17:05,740
I still have to write down

668
00:17:05,740 --> 00:17:07,740
that you are giving me a duet.

669
00:17:07,740 --> 00:17:08,740
Well,

670
00:17:08,740 --> 00:17:09,740
I say,

671
00:17:09,740 --> 00:17:10,740
if I can't function anymore,

672
00:17:10,740 --> 00:17:11,740
I can't talk anymore.

673
00:17:11,740 --> 00:17:13,740
I don't know where I am.

674
00:17:13,740 --> 00:17:15,740
And you think that I'm not going to wake up anymore?

675
00:17:15,740 --> 00:17:16,740
Well,

676
00:17:16,740 --> 00:17:17,740
if you like,

677
00:17:17,740 --> 00:17:18,740
you have to write it down.

678
00:17:18,740 --> 00:17:19,740
And can we then share

679
00:17:19,740 --> 00:17:20,740
for the science,

680
00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:21,740
or do you just...

681
00:17:21,740 --> 00:17:22,740
No,

682
00:17:22,740 --> 00:17:24,740
because I still have to speak.

683
00:17:24,740 --> 00:17:25,740
But then you can also

684
00:17:25,740 --> 00:17:27,740
with one arm.

685
00:17:27,740 --> 00:17:28,740
No, no, no.

686
00:17:28,740 --> 00:17:29,740
Yes, look,

687
00:17:29,740 --> 00:17:30,740
do you see it?

688
00:17:30,740 --> 00:17:31,740
No.

689
00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:32,740
That's scary.

690
00:17:32,740 --> 00:17:33,740
There are a lot of people

691
00:17:33,740 --> 00:17:34,740
who need to share their body parts.

692
00:17:34,740 --> 00:17:35,740
Yes, I know,

693
00:17:35,740 --> 00:17:36,740
I know.

694
00:17:36,740 --> 00:17:37,740
Do you do it?

695
00:17:37,740 --> 00:17:38,740
Well,

696
00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:40,740
I don't know if it's worth it yet.

697
00:17:40,740 --> 00:17:42,740
At the time that I go,

698
00:17:42,740 --> 00:17:44,740
who the fuck wants that shit?

699
00:17:44,740 --> 00:17:45,740
Oh.

700
00:17:45,740 --> 00:17:46,740
You don't have arms,

701
00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:47,740
you have tentacles.

702
00:17:47,740 --> 00:17:48,740
Who wants that?

703
00:17:48,740 --> 00:17:49,740
It's a very strange thing

704
00:17:49,740 --> 00:17:50,740
hanging on your life.

705
00:17:50,740 --> 00:17:51,740
You're always standing

706
00:17:51,740 --> 00:17:52,740
against names,

707
00:17:52,740 --> 00:17:53,740
against those arms.

708
00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:55,740
Well,

709
00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:56,740
for the first time

710
00:17:56,740 --> 00:17:58,740
I really think about it myself.

711
00:17:58,740 --> 00:18:00,740
I don't think it interests me.

712
00:18:00,740 --> 00:18:01,740
Let's just cut it out.

713
00:18:01,740 --> 00:18:02,740
My aunt,

714
00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:03,740
she has...

715
00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:04,740
You don't have anything to do with it.

716
00:18:04,740 --> 00:18:06,740
She has cancer and stuff.

717
00:18:06,740 --> 00:18:07,740
In America,

718
00:18:07,740 --> 00:18:09,740
she gave birth to a baby.

719
00:18:09,740 --> 00:18:10,740
It's beautiful.

720
00:18:10,740 --> 00:18:12,740
It's always a very beautiful house.

721
00:18:12,740 --> 00:18:14,740
A very beautiful white living room.

722
00:18:14,740 --> 00:18:15,740
I know what I can donate.

723
00:18:15,740 --> 00:18:16,740
Oh.

724
00:18:17,740 --> 00:18:18,740
Oh, what are you?

725
00:18:19,740 --> 00:18:21,740
Yes, yes, yes.

726
00:18:21,740 --> 00:18:22,740
Hey, but...

727
00:18:22,740 --> 00:18:24,740
Oh, talk about it in the microphone.

728
00:18:24,740 --> 00:18:25,740
Last time,

729
00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:27,740
we kept it on our own.

730
00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:29,740
And I believe

731
00:18:29,740 --> 00:18:32,740
that we kept it on our own.

732
00:18:32,740 --> 00:18:33,740
Oh, yes.

733
00:18:33,740 --> 00:18:35,740
That we were in Amsterdam again.

734
00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:36,740
That house.

735
00:18:36,740 --> 00:18:37,740
Did you get this from the production,

736
00:18:37,740 --> 00:18:38,740
this letter?

737
00:18:38,740 --> 00:18:39,740
No, no.

738
00:18:39,740 --> 00:18:40,740
I've got it myself.

739
00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:41,740
I'm now a production mud.

740
00:18:41,740 --> 00:18:42,740
Aha.

741
00:18:42,740 --> 00:18:43,740
Hello,

742
00:18:43,740 --> 00:18:44,740
production mud.

743
00:18:44,740 --> 00:18:45,740
Because he knows,

744
00:18:45,740 --> 00:18:46,740
we're cutting so much.

745
00:18:46,740 --> 00:18:47,740
From the front to the back,

746
00:18:47,740 --> 00:18:49,740
not where we've been.

747
00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:50,740
So,

748
00:18:50,740 --> 00:18:52,740
what the people,

749
00:18:52,740 --> 00:18:53,740
what I've heard.

750
00:18:53,740 --> 00:18:54,740
The people.

751
00:18:54,740 --> 00:18:55,740
The maniacs.

752
00:18:55,740 --> 00:18:57,740
Because it's constantly about

753
00:18:57,740 --> 00:18:59,740
that you have

754
00:18:59,740 --> 00:19:01,740
2.5 million debt

755
00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:02,740
to a debt-eiser.

756
00:19:02,740 --> 00:19:03,740
Eiser.

757
00:19:03,740 --> 00:19:04,740
Eiser.

758
00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:05,740
Eiser.

759
00:19:05,740 --> 00:19:06,740
debt-eiser.

760
00:19:06,740 --> 00:19:07,740
And

761
00:19:07,740 --> 00:19:08,740
I've asked a few times,

762
00:19:08,740 --> 00:19:10,740
how is that?

763
00:19:10,740 --> 00:19:11,740
With that,

764
00:19:11,740 --> 00:19:12,740
with that...

765
00:19:12,740 --> 00:19:13,740
You can do that very quickly.

766
00:19:13,740 --> 00:19:15,740
You don't have to tell the whole thing.

767
00:19:15,740 --> 00:19:16,740
It can't actually...

768
00:19:16,740 --> 00:19:17,740
Yes, I will do it as quickly as possible.

769
00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:18,740
But there are a few important things.

770
00:19:18,740 --> 00:19:19,740
Important things.

771
00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:20,740
Yes, but you can do it very simply.

772
00:19:20,740 --> 00:19:22,740
You don't have to tell such a long story.

773
00:19:22,740 --> 00:19:24,740
What they want to know is

774
00:19:24,740 --> 00:19:26,740
how it was with that helicopter.

775
00:19:26,740 --> 00:19:27,740
And who was that Simon?

776
00:19:27,740 --> 00:19:29,740
And who is that debt-eiser?

777
00:19:29,740 --> 00:19:30,740
Okay.

778
00:19:30,740 --> 00:19:31,740
But that's basically a long story.

779
00:19:31,740 --> 00:19:33,740
I'm going to tell you something now.

780
00:19:33,740 --> 00:19:34,740
And if you find it interesting,

781
00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:36,740
then I'll talk about it.

782
00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:37,740
Okay.

783
00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:38,740
Okay.

784
00:19:38,740 --> 00:19:39,740
It all started

785
00:19:39,740 --> 00:19:41,740
when we sold our companies in 2000.

786
00:19:41,740 --> 00:19:43,740
And we were in Amsterdam

787
00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:45,740
and Simon and I

788
00:19:45,740 --> 00:19:46,740
said, hey,

789
00:19:46,740 --> 00:19:47,740
what are we going to do?

790
00:19:47,740 --> 00:19:49,740
We're going to do some fun things.

791
00:19:49,740 --> 00:19:51,740
And I just read that Warren Buffett,

792
00:19:51,740 --> 00:19:55,740
that's a very quick investor in America,

793
00:19:55,740 --> 00:19:56,740
he's very well known,

794
00:19:56,740 --> 00:20:00,740
had just bought NetJets.

795
00:20:00,740 --> 00:20:04,740
And NetJets is a fractional ownership,

796
00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:07,740
then you buy a piece of a plane

797
00:20:07,740 --> 00:20:10,740
and it costs a lot less.

798
00:20:10,740 --> 00:20:12,740
A plane to buy yourself,

799
00:20:12,740 --> 00:20:14,740
a nice or a very nice helicopter,

800
00:20:14,740 --> 00:20:16,740
that doesn't make any sense

801
00:20:16,740 --> 00:20:17,740
because that thing is more on the ground

802
00:20:17,740 --> 00:20:18,740
than it flies.

803
00:20:18,740 --> 00:20:20,740
So if you buy a pair of people in a club

804
00:20:20,740 --> 00:20:23,740
and you pay together the maintenance

805
00:20:23,740 --> 00:20:25,740
and the personnel,

806
00:20:25,740 --> 00:20:27,740
then you just have to pay

807
00:20:27,740 --> 00:20:28,740
for your fuel and so on.

808
00:20:28,740 --> 00:20:29,740
Well, that's what you thought.

809
00:20:29,740 --> 00:20:30,740
Nice.

810
00:20:30,740 --> 00:20:32,740
Because we already had a helicopter

811
00:20:32,740 --> 00:20:35,740
and then we had the Agusta.

812
00:20:35,740 --> 00:20:36,740
And they said,

813
00:20:36,740 --> 00:20:37,740
this is a crazy experience.

814
00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:38,740
This is fantastic.

815
00:20:38,740 --> 00:20:41,740
And then the big internet bell

816
00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:42,740
wasn't working.

817
00:20:42,740 --> 00:20:43,740
So everyone was making money

818
00:20:43,740 --> 00:20:45,740
and there was a client

819
00:20:45,740 --> 00:20:46,740
who was in the queue.

820
00:20:46,740 --> 00:20:48,740
And then you have to add

821
00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:49,740
that Simon,

822
00:20:49,740 --> 00:20:51,740
I knew him for a long time.

823
00:20:51,740 --> 00:20:52,740
I knew him for a long time.

824
00:20:52,740 --> 00:20:53,740
I knew him for 5 or 6 years.

825
00:20:53,740 --> 00:20:56,740
He was also in America with us.

826
00:20:56,740 --> 00:20:57,740
Where are those coins?

827
00:20:57,740 --> 00:20:58,740
He sold them to us.

828
00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:00,740
He always came with nice gifts

829
00:21:00,740 --> 00:21:01,740
and we thought,

830
00:21:01,740 --> 00:21:03,740
what a nice English ball.

831
00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:05,740
But he also put on EuroNet internet.

832
00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:06,740
Certainly.

833
00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:08,740
And he earned his own money.

834
00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:10,740
Yes, I always said,

835
00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:12,740
if someone has the example of success,

836
00:21:12,740 --> 00:21:14,740
then he's okay, right?

837
00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:15,740
Yes, yes.

838
00:21:15,740 --> 00:21:17,740
We just saw the same thing.

839
00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:20,740
We healed from the same things.

840
00:21:20,740 --> 00:21:23,740
He was always seen in the Misha in Africa.

841
00:21:23,740 --> 00:21:25,740
So the house,

842
00:21:25,740 --> 00:21:26,740
an MDMA,

843
00:21:26,740 --> 00:21:27,740
an ecstasy.

844
00:21:27,740 --> 00:21:28,740
He was interested in me,

845
00:21:28,740 --> 00:21:30,740
I have to know that myself.

846
00:21:30,740 --> 00:21:32,740
But,

847
00:21:32,740 --> 00:21:33,740
just before the rest...

848
00:21:33,740 --> 00:21:34,740
We would keep it short.

849
00:21:34,740 --> 00:21:35,740
Yes, but then people knew

850
00:21:35,740 --> 00:21:36,740
Simon,

851
00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:37,740
where you were.

852
00:21:37,740 --> 00:21:38,740
Simon Cavendish.

853
00:21:38,740 --> 00:21:39,740
What we always do.

854
00:21:39,740 --> 00:21:40,740
When I was with him,

855
00:21:40,740 --> 00:21:41,740
you know how I always mess with everyone.

856
00:21:41,740 --> 00:21:43,740
I want to know everything.

857
00:21:43,740 --> 00:21:45,740
I never came to know anything about that man.

858
00:21:45,740 --> 00:21:46,740
I said,

859
00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:47,740
Well, we also said that to him.

860
00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:51,740
We came to realize that you are royalty.

861
00:21:51,740 --> 00:21:53,740
Yes, or you are one of the farmers, we said.

862
00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:55,740
Or you are, it was a joke.

863
00:21:55,740 --> 00:21:57,740
Or you are from the royal family.

864
00:21:57,740 --> 00:21:58,740
Because,

865
00:21:58,740 --> 00:21:59,740
why don't you tell who you are

866
00:21:59,740 --> 00:22:00,740
and who your family is?

867
00:22:00,740 --> 00:22:01,740
Never.

868
00:22:01,740 --> 00:22:02,740
Well, he did tell that.

869
00:22:02,740 --> 00:22:03,740
Because he told that.

870
00:22:03,740 --> 00:22:04,740
Fag.

871
00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:06,740
Yes, his father was,

872
00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:07,740
he was a teacher.

873
00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:08,740
Well, he did tell stories.

874
00:22:08,740 --> 00:22:09,740
But,

875
00:22:09,740 --> 00:22:10,740
he was fag.

876
00:22:10,740 --> 00:22:11,740
Yes, fag.

877
00:22:11,740 --> 00:22:12,740
But,

878
00:22:12,740 --> 00:22:13,740
that is also very easy to look at.

879
00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:14,740
Why do I have to say?

880
00:22:14,740 --> 00:22:15,740
Because you think,

881
00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:16,740
oh yes, that was a bit weird.

882
00:22:16,740 --> 00:22:17,740
Yes, but now,

883
00:22:17,740 --> 00:22:18,740
further.

884
00:22:18,740 --> 00:22:19,740
So,

885
00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:20,740
the idea was very good.

886
00:22:20,740 --> 00:22:21,740
But,

887
00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:23,740
to put something like that in the Netherlands,

888
00:22:23,740 --> 00:22:25,740
it turned out to be a bit more difficult.

889
00:22:25,740 --> 00:22:26,740
Because in the Netherlands,

890
00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:28,740
you have rules everywhere.

891
00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:29,740
By the way,

892
00:22:29,740 --> 00:22:30,740
for example,

893
00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:31,740
the IVW,

894
00:22:31,740 --> 00:22:32,740
the Inspection,

895
00:22:32,740 --> 00:22:33,740
traffic and water,

896
00:22:33,740 --> 00:22:34,740
which the Turkish aircraft,

897
00:22:34,740 --> 00:22:36,740
or aircraft carrier has banned.

898
00:22:36,740 --> 00:22:37,740
Yes, now.

899
00:22:37,740 --> 00:22:38,740
The reason why,

900
00:22:38,740 --> 00:22:39,740
is not because of bad maintenance.

901
00:22:39,740 --> 00:22:40,740
I mean,

902
00:22:40,740 --> 00:22:41,740
ah,

903
00:22:41,740 --> 00:22:42,740
once the engine is off,

904
00:22:42,740 --> 00:22:43,740
it happens with the KLM,

905
00:22:43,740 --> 00:22:44,740
30 times a month,

906
00:22:44,740 --> 00:22:45,740
it just happens.

907
00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:46,740
No.

908
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:47,740
One of the pilots

909
00:22:47,740 --> 00:22:48,740
had nothing to do with it.

910
00:22:48,740 --> 00:22:49,740
So a proof,

911
00:22:49,740 --> 00:22:51,740
that he was a doctor.

912
00:22:51,740 --> 00:22:52,740
Not to mention it,

913
00:22:52,740 --> 00:22:54,740
that is absolutely an exaggeration.

914
00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:55,740
But,

915
00:22:55,740 --> 00:22:57,740
to provide 20,000 passengers there,

916
00:22:57,740 --> 00:22:59,740
it has nothing to do with safety.

917
00:22:59,740 --> 00:23:00,740
Let me at least ask for that.

918
00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:02,740
And I'm really in that flying world in the Netherlands,

919
00:23:02,740 --> 00:23:03,740
that's bullshit.

920
00:23:03,740 --> 00:23:04,740
But good.

921
00:23:04,740 --> 00:23:05,740
Okay.

922
00:23:05,740 --> 00:23:06,740
They were behind you, right?

923
00:23:06,740 --> 00:23:07,740
Well, it's terribly difficult.

924
00:23:07,740 --> 00:23:09,740
And you had to have an AOC,

925
00:23:09,740 --> 00:23:11,740
while in every other European country,

926
00:23:11,740 --> 00:23:12,740
it doesn't have to,

927
00:23:12,740 --> 00:23:13,740
so you don't have to,

928
00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:14,740
because you're all owners.

929
00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:15,740
They said,

930
00:23:15,740 --> 00:23:17,740
oh, it's a kind of aircraft carrier.

931
00:23:17,740 --> 00:23:18,740
Well.

932
00:23:18,740 --> 00:23:20,740
So it cost a lot of money.

933
00:23:20,740 --> 00:23:22,740
But we kept going.

934
00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:23,740
And in the meantime,

935
00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:24,740
we also had other companies,

936
00:23:24,740 --> 00:23:25,740
like Jambi,

937
00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:26,740
and Data Barn,

938
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:27,740
and those kinds of things.

939
00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,740
And that went pretty well.

940
00:23:29,740 --> 00:23:30,740
Because we had clients there.

941
00:23:30,740 --> 00:23:31,740
We had Veronica,

942
00:23:31,740 --> 00:23:33,740
for 3 million per year.

943
00:23:33,740 --> 00:23:34,740
Gulden was,

944
00:23:34,740 --> 00:23:35,740
at that time,

945
00:23:35,740 --> 00:23:37,740
we had the state treasury.

946
00:23:37,740 --> 00:23:38,740
It all went well,

947
00:23:38,740 --> 00:23:39,740
while we were,

948
00:23:39,740 --> 00:23:40,740
at the time,

949
00:23:40,740 --> 00:23:41,740
building what was now,

950
00:23:41,740 --> 00:23:42,740
podcasting.

951
00:23:42,740 --> 00:23:43,740
Yes.

952
00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:44,740
Yes.

953
00:23:44,740 --> 00:23:46,740
And I did that with those 3 hackers.

954
00:23:46,740 --> 00:23:47,740
With Anuj,

955
00:23:47,740 --> 00:23:48,740
Taco,

956
00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:49,740
and Michiel.

957
00:23:49,740 --> 00:23:50,740
Yes.

958
00:23:50,740 --> 00:23:51,740
Michael,

959
00:23:51,740 --> 00:23:52,740
Michiel actually.

960
00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:53,740
And,

961
00:23:53,740 --> 00:23:55,740
at some point,

962
00:23:55,740 --> 00:23:57,740
I got a Tuesday morning,

963
00:23:57,740 --> 00:23:59,740
I got an email from Simon.

964
00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:03,740
And we had that helicopter,

965
00:24:03,740 --> 00:24:04,740
so in the meantime,

966
00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:06,740
we had a company,

967
00:24:06,740 --> 00:24:08,740
we had a pilot,

968
00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:10,740
a monteur,

969
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:12,740
someone for the office,

970
00:24:12,740 --> 00:24:14,740
we really had 3 people working there.

971
00:24:14,740 --> 00:24:15,740
But who was there with their money,

972
00:24:15,740 --> 00:24:16,740
in the helicopter?

973
00:24:16,740 --> 00:24:17,740
Simon and I, both.

974
00:24:17,740 --> 00:24:18,740
50-50.

975
00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:19,740
50-50.

976
00:24:19,740 --> 00:24:20,740
The entire company,

977
00:24:20,740 --> 00:24:21,740
each half,

978
00:24:21,740 --> 00:24:22,740
had to be stored,

979
00:24:22,740 --> 00:24:23,740
everyone stored something.

980
00:24:23,740 --> 00:24:24,740
Right.

981
00:24:24,740 --> 00:24:25,740
And that helicopter,

982
00:24:25,740 --> 00:24:26,740
we bought,

983
00:24:26,740 --> 00:24:27,740
I believe,

984
00:24:27,740 --> 00:24:28,740
for 3.2 million dollars.

985
00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:29,740
Yes.

986
00:24:29,740 --> 00:24:30,740
That was it, I believe.

987
00:24:30,740 --> 00:24:31,740
So each half was paid.

988
00:24:31,740 --> 00:24:32,740
Yes.

989
00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:33,740
And we had expansion plans,

990
00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:34,740
and everything went well.

991
00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:35,740
And,

992
00:24:36,740 --> 00:24:37,740
suddenly,

993
00:24:37,740 --> 00:24:38,740
Tuesday morning,

994
00:24:38,740 --> 00:24:39,740
an email comes from Simon,

995
00:24:39,740 --> 00:24:40,740
and it says,

996
00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:41,740
Living a lie,

997
00:24:41,740 --> 00:24:43,740
and he sent it to the whole world,

998
00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:44,740
to the bank,

999
00:24:44,740 --> 00:24:47,740
to people in the air.

1000
00:24:49,740 --> 00:24:50,740
To all the personnel,

1001
00:24:50,740 --> 00:24:52,740
everyone had this letter.

1002
00:24:52,740 --> 00:24:53,740
And it was,

1003
00:24:53,740 --> 00:24:54,740
I don't call Simon Kevin,

1004
00:24:54,740 --> 00:24:55,740
so I call Simon Michael Jackson.

1005
00:24:55,740 --> 00:24:57,740
I've been looking for 15 years

1006
00:24:57,740 --> 00:24:58,740
for the Scotland Yard.

1007
00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:02,740
I sat down for Grand Theft Auto,

1008
00:25:02,740 --> 00:25:05,740
made by Ecstasy, Smokkele,

1009
00:25:05,740 --> 00:25:06,740
well,

1010
00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:07,740
and something has just happened,

1011
00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:08,740
which means,

1012
00:25:08,740 --> 00:25:10,740
I can't live with this lie anymore,

1013
00:25:10,740 --> 00:25:11,740
and I'm going to give it to him.

1014
00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:12,740
Yes.

1015
00:25:12,740 --> 00:25:13,740
What happened then?

1016
00:25:13,740 --> 00:25:14,740
Because you,

1017
00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:15,740
did it a little...

1018
00:25:15,740 --> 00:25:16,740
No, what I think,

1019
00:25:16,740 --> 00:25:17,740
what has happened is...

1020
00:25:17,740 --> 00:25:18,740
You saw it, right?

1021
00:25:18,740 --> 00:25:19,740
Oh, and above that,

1022
00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:20,740
he no longer had money.

1023
00:25:20,740 --> 00:25:21,740
That was the story.

1024
00:25:21,740 --> 00:25:22,740
Because?

1025
00:25:22,740 --> 00:25:23,740
Because.

1026
00:25:23,740 --> 00:25:24,740
At first, he never had so much money.

1027
00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:25,740
He wanted,

1028
00:25:25,740 --> 00:25:26,740
in terms of perspective,

1029
00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:28,740
he earned 12 million gold,

1030
00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:29,740
at the sale of his company.

1031
00:25:29,740 --> 00:25:30,740
But yes,

1032
00:25:30,740 --> 00:25:32,740
I also know what we invested.

1033
00:25:32,740 --> 00:25:33,740
So I could figure it out.

1034
00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:34,740
Can you tell?

1035
00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:35,740
If you only have 12 million.

1036
00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:36,740
There he continued,

1037
00:25:36,740 --> 00:25:38,740
he paid for yachts.

1038
00:25:38,740 --> 00:25:39,740
Oh man,

1039
00:25:39,740 --> 00:25:40,740
$100.000 per week.

1040
00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:41,740
Not at Avca Parties.

1041
00:25:41,740 --> 00:25:43,740
Jets, the whole fuck,

1042
00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:45,740
he gave it out as a fucking car.

1043
00:25:45,740 --> 00:25:46,740
He went shopping,

1044
00:25:46,740 --> 00:25:47,740
with a whole bunch of people,

1045
00:25:47,740 --> 00:25:48,740
and shared,

1046
00:25:48,740 --> 00:25:49,740
just go to my costume,

1047
00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:50,740
do my shoes,

1048
00:25:50,740 --> 00:25:51,740
do my bag.

1049
00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:52,740
Yes,

1050
00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:53,740
he really bought what that means.

1051
00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:54,740
And then we said,

1052
00:25:54,740 --> 00:25:55,740
why does he do that?

1053
00:25:55,740 --> 00:25:56,740
Why does he do that?

1054
00:25:56,740 --> 00:25:57,740
Well, and he has to know that.

1055
00:25:57,740 --> 00:25:58,740
That's right.

1056
00:25:58,740 --> 00:25:59,740
He has to know that.

1057
00:25:59,740 --> 00:26:00,740
His money.

1058
00:26:00,740 --> 00:26:02,740
I didn't know how much he had back then,

1059
00:26:02,740 --> 00:26:03,740
because he didn't know what he had.

1060
00:26:03,740 --> 00:26:05,740
And he's pretty intelligent,

1061
00:26:05,740 --> 00:26:06,740
so you always say...

1062
00:26:06,740 --> 00:26:07,740
Very intelligent.

1063
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:08,740
You always say,

1064
00:26:08,740 --> 00:26:09,740
well, he should know what he's doing.

1065
00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:10,740
Yes.

1066
00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:11,740
He knows it, right?

1067
00:26:11,740 --> 00:26:12,740
Yes, super, super intelligent.

1068
00:26:12,740 --> 00:26:13,740
And nice,

1069
00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:14,740
really,

1070
00:26:14,740 --> 00:26:16,740
I could really think of a good strategy.

1071
00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:17,740
It was really,

1072
00:26:17,740 --> 00:26:18,740
it was...

1073
00:26:18,740 --> 00:26:19,740
A very nice guy.

1074
00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:20,740
Yes.

1075
00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:22,740
And we laughed terribly with him.

1076
00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:23,740
In any case...

1077
00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:24,740
That letter came.

1078
00:26:24,740 --> 00:26:25,740
Yes,

1079
00:26:25,740 --> 00:26:26,740
and he was at home,

1080
00:26:26,740 --> 00:26:27,740
his apartment,

1081
00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:28,740
a very different Simon.

1082
00:26:28,740 --> 00:26:29,740
It looked like a clochar.

1083
00:26:29,740 --> 00:26:30,740
Yes, blood.

1084
00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:32,740
A big coat on his forehead.

1085
00:26:32,740 --> 00:26:33,740
Yes, I was missing.

1086
00:26:33,740 --> 00:26:34,740
Well, we know that.

1087
00:26:34,740 --> 00:26:36,740
But I think what happened was that he had,

1088
00:26:36,740 --> 00:26:38,740
under influence of, I think,

1089
00:26:38,740 --> 00:26:39,740
Mickey...

1090
00:26:39,740 --> 00:26:40,740
A few kinds of people.

1091
00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:41,740
Mickey Hoogendijk.

1092
00:26:41,740 --> 00:26:43,740
And the supper club people.

1093
00:26:43,740 --> 00:26:46,740
He had bought a church on the Kijschersgracht.

1094
00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:49,740
And it had to cost 10 million gulden.

1095
00:26:49,740 --> 00:26:51,740
And he would make a club of it.

1096
00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:52,740
Yes, and it would also become

1097
00:26:52,740 --> 00:26:54,740
a sort of supper club annex.

1098
00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:55,740
That was my idea,

1099
00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:56,740
again, I don't know,

1100
00:26:56,740 --> 00:26:57,740
it's just what I understood

1101
00:26:57,740 --> 00:26:58,740
through those years.

1102
00:26:58,740 --> 00:26:59,740
A little bit heard here.

1103
00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:01,740
Yes, but it's clear that this is not a fact.

1104
00:27:01,740 --> 00:27:03,740
It's just what I understood a little bit.

1105
00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:04,740
Yes.

1106
00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:06,740
Well, of course,

1107
00:27:06,740 --> 00:27:11,740
he paid a million for it.

1108
00:27:11,740 --> 00:27:12,740
Yes.

1109
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:13,740
And...

1110
00:27:13,740 --> 00:27:14,740
He would then invest,

1111
00:27:14,740 --> 00:27:15,740
to look for it.

1112
00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:16,740
No, no, no, no, no.

1113
00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:17,740
Are you going to tell it,

1114
00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:18,740
or should I tell it?

1115
00:27:18,740 --> 00:27:19,740
No, but I thought he would

1116
00:27:19,740 --> 00:27:20,740
take care of it.

1117
00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:21,740
Should I just tell it?

1118
00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:22,740
Because I think I know it very well.

1119
00:27:22,740 --> 00:27:23,740
Oh, I had my own idea.

1120
00:27:23,740 --> 00:27:24,740
Yes, well,

1121
00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:25,740
that would be incorrect.

1122
00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:26,740
I'm going to work as a rollercoaster.

1123
00:27:26,740 --> 00:27:27,740
Yes.

1124
00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:28,740
That would be fun.

1125
00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:30,740
Hey, that was Rotterdam's humor, right?

1126
00:27:30,740 --> 00:27:31,740
Yes, I heard it.

1127
00:27:31,740 --> 00:27:32,740
I heard it.

1128
00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:33,740
It's very good, boy.

1129
00:27:33,740 --> 00:27:34,740
No.

1130
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:38,740
He thought that we, in our companies,

1131
00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:40,740
would quickly sell those parts

1132
00:27:40,740 --> 00:27:41,740
of the helicopter,

1133
00:27:41,740 --> 00:27:43,740
that they would have enough money

1134
00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:44,740
to...

1135
00:27:44,740 --> 00:27:46,740
because he had to pay another million

1136
00:27:46,740 --> 00:27:47,740
for it,

1137
00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:48,740
and then he really had to...

1138
00:27:48,740 --> 00:27:49,740
with a mortgage.

1139
00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:50,740
Yes, of course, a mega-hipotech.

1140
00:27:50,740 --> 00:27:51,740
And if you don't have a pound,

1141
00:27:51,740 --> 00:27:53,740
then you won't get a mortgage from the bank either.

1142
00:27:53,740 --> 00:27:54,740
But I thought that he would have

1143
00:27:54,740 --> 00:27:55,740
some money to pay.

1144
00:27:55,740 --> 00:27:57,740
So it was about one or two million

1145
00:27:57,740 --> 00:27:58,740
for what he had to pay.

1146
00:27:58,740 --> 00:27:59,740
And the payment,

1147
00:27:59,740 --> 00:28:00,740
as far as I know,

1148
00:28:00,740 --> 00:28:02,740
was from the guys from the Bulldog.

1149
00:28:02,740 --> 00:28:03,740
Well, let me tell you.

1150
00:28:03,740 --> 00:28:05,740
If you buy something from these guys,

1151
00:28:05,740 --> 00:28:06,740
then you just have to pay

1152
00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:07,740
and you don't have to pay.

1153
00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:08,740
Aha.

1154
00:28:08,740 --> 00:28:12,740
So, yes, that was the reason.

1155
00:28:12,740 --> 00:28:14,740
And I think he got a message

1156
00:28:14,740 --> 00:28:15,740
from the end of the report.

1157
00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:16,740
And he was completely in the rat,

1158
00:28:16,740 --> 00:28:17,740
and he was freaking out.

1159
00:28:17,740 --> 00:28:18,740
He was freaking out.

1160
00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:19,740
Yes, and he was freaking out.

1161
00:28:19,740 --> 00:28:21,740
And, well, then...

1162
00:28:21,740 --> 00:28:23,740
I don't think he could be alone.

1163
00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:24,740
No.

1164
00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:25,740
And maybe it's a lot more than that.

1165
00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:26,740
I don't know.

1166
00:28:26,740 --> 00:28:27,740
We'll never know that.

1167
00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:28,740
I don't know.

1168
00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:29,740
I don't see it that way either.

1169
00:28:29,740 --> 00:28:30,740
So everyone had his e-mail.

1170
00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:32,740
But anyway, so what happens next?

1171
00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:34,740
So all the shit starts.

1172
00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:37,740
Veronica, she turns around with a new president.

1173
00:28:37,740 --> 00:28:38,740
And everyone,

1174
00:28:38,740 --> 00:28:40,740
statesmen,

1175
00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:42,740
the entire helicopter world turns around.

1176
00:28:42,740 --> 00:28:44,740
Yes, but what did he do in the meantime?

1177
00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:45,740
Oh, he fled.

1178
00:28:45,740 --> 00:28:46,740
We haven't told you that yet.

1179
00:28:46,740 --> 00:28:47,740
Yes, yes.

1180
00:28:47,740 --> 00:28:48,740
He was gone that day, to England.

1181
00:28:48,740 --> 00:28:49,740
And he was...

1182
00:28:49,740 --> 00:28:50,740
Well, he went there...

1183
00:28:50,740 --> 00:28:52,740
He went to Cambodia.

1184
00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:54,740
No, he's been there for a year.

1185
00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:55,740
He's been back for a while.

1186
00:28:55,740 --> 00:28:57,740
In the Netherlands, I've been with him for a year.

1187
00:28:57,740 --> 00:28:58,740
I've told Simon.

1188
00:28:58,740 --> 00:29:01,740
Because he was just standing on the pinnacle, you know.

1189
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:04,740
So this is only a year later.

1190
00:29:04,740 --> 00:29:06,740
Because, well, what did we have to do?

1191
00:29:06,740 --> 00:29:08,740
Well, I mean, I'm not going alone.

1192
00:29:08,740 --> 00:29:09,740
We're all doing one thing.

1193
00:29:09,740 --> 00:29:10,740
Rot on.

1194
00:29:10,740 --> 00:29:11,740
No.

1195
00:29:11,740 --> 00:29:13,740
He also bought parts of that helicopter.

1196
00:29:13,740 --> 00:29:15,740
I still know that you're very shocked.

1197
00:29:15,740 --> 00:29:16,740
I was very shocked.

1198
00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:17,740
He was really sick of it.

1199
00:29:17,740 --> 00:29:18,740
Yes, you're right.

1200
00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:20,740
He brought me to Belgium.

1201
00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:23,740
I really lived there for five or six days.

1202
00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:25,740
Yes, you said...

1203
00:29:25,740 --> 00:29:27,740
I don't know what to do.

1204
00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:28,740
I'm sick of it.

1205
00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:29,740
What do you mean?

1206
00:29:29,740 --> 00:29:31,740
And indeed, we left you there.

1207
00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:33,740
You said, well, come on, calm down.

1208
00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:35,740
And we're going to think about it.

1209
00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:37,740
Well, and then I thought...

1210
00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:39,740
I called all the people of the company.

1211
00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:42,740
So Stu and...

1212
00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:44,740
Who was Stu?

1213
00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:46,740
Peter and Caroline Stu.

1214
00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:47,740
Stuart, the pilot.

1215
00:29:47,740 --> 00:29:48,740
Stu.

1216
00:29:48,740 --> 00:29:49,740
Okay.

1217
00:29:49,740 --> 00:29:51,740
And...

1218
00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:53,740
I forgot the name at the same time.

1219
00:29:53,740 --> 00:29:55,740
Well, we had four or five people.

1220
00:29:55,740 --> 00:29:57,740
The company was just there.

1221
00:29:57,740 --> 00:29:58,740
They said, guys, what are we going to do?

1222
00:29:58,740 --> 00:29:59,740
We were also in Den Helder.

1223
00:29:59,740 --> 00:30:00,740
It doesn't make it that easy.

1224
00:30:00,740 --> 00:30:02,740
There was also a problem.

1225
00:30:02,740 --> 00:30:03,740
They said, you know what we're doing?

1226
00:30:03,740 --> 00:30:05,740
We're selling this box.

1227
00:30:05,740 --> 00:30:07,740
Well, those people had to be paid like that.

1228
00:30:07,740 --> 00:30:09,740
Well, no, but then I talked to them.

1229
00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:13,740
If you continue, then I commit...

1230
00:30:13,740 --> 00:30:17,740
that we build up something under a new strategy.

1231
00:30:17,740 --> 00:30:20,740
If you want to leave now, you can hit your three months here.

1232
00:30:20,740 --> 00:30:22,740
And then you can leave.

1233
00:30:22,740 --> 00:30:25,740
And everyone stayed, but Stuart said,

1234
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:26,740
heart-sticken fun.

1235
00:30:26,740 --> 00:30:27,740
I see it and continue.

1236
00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:28,740
The new operation has been set up.

1237
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:30,740
Denise, who came at that time.

1238
00:30:30,740 --> 00:30:31,740
Female pilots.

1239
00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:34,740
And then...

1240
00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:35,740
And then I'm going away.

1241
00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:36,740
Because he...

1242
00:30:36,740 --> 00:30:38,740
That of Simon, that wasn't good for him.

1243
00:30:38,740 --> 00:30:40,740
He was also an angry Englishman.

1244
00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:42,740
And he went to the police to fly in Yorkshire.

1245
00:30:42,740 --> 00:30:43,740
So...

1246
00:30:43,740 --> 00:30:44,740
Yes, yes.

1247
00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:45,740
That certainly wouldn't be good for him.

1248
00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:47,740
No, of course not.

1249
00:30:47,740 --> 00:30:49,740
So we had to sell that helicopter.

1250
00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:50,740
Well, that was something.

1251
00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:52,740
Because what just happened?

1252
00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:54,740
September 11th.

1253
00:30:54,740 --> 00:30:57,740
So yes, no one was waiting for something to fly.

1254
00:30:57,740 --> 00:31:00,740
And the brand was completely in sync.

1255
00:31:00,740 --> 00:31:02,740
And in those few plants he didn't want anymore?

1256
00:31:02,740 --> 00:31:03,740
No.

1257
00:31:03,740 --> 00:31:05,740
Everything was over.

1258
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:06,740
The world was over.

1259
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:07,740
No one came again.

1260
00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:09,740
No one flew.

1261
00:31:09,740 --> 00:31:13,740
Well, in the end, we got a coper.

1262
00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:16,740
Because yes, I just paid the salaries every month happily.

1263
00:31:16,740 --> 00:31:17,740
And we didn't fly.

1264
00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:18,740
It was terrible.

1265
00:31:18,740 --> 00:31:19,740
Yes.

1266
00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:21,740
So now it's still a little longer.

1267
00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:23,740
And in the end we found a coper.

1268
00:31:23,740 --> 00:31:24,740
And I think really to Brazil.

1269
00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:25,740
All boxes go there.

1270
00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:27,740
We got very little money back.

1271
00:31:27,740 --> 00:31:29,740
Yes, 2.2 or 2.1.

1272
00:31:29,740 --> 00:31:31,740
So we really lost a million dollars.

1273
00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:32,740
We lost.

1274
00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:33,740
Yes, that was bad.

1275
00:31:33,740 --> 00:31:34,740
Yes, good.

1276
00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:35,740
You can't see that either.

1277
00:31:35,740 --> 00:31:36,740
No, of course not.

1278
00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:38,740
And then we had completely gone crazy.

1279
00:31:38,740 --> 00:31:40,740
But it's the smaller crew.

1280
00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:42,740
With Denise as a pilot.

1281
00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:44,740
With that green helicopter.

1282
00:31:44,740 --> 00:31:47,740
We had made a deal with René Haring of Haley Holland.

1283
00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:49,740
In the meantime I was almost 3 years old.

1284
00:31:49,740 --> 00:31:51,740
With the Haleyhavre Amsterdam.

1285
00:31:51,740 --> 00:31:52,740
That opens over.

1286
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:53,740
In June.

1287
00:31:53,740 --> 00:31:54,740
That's all worked out.

1288
00:31:54,740 --> 00:31:55,740
Yes.

1289
00:31:55,740 --> 00:31:57,740
And we had hangar on Schiphol.

1290
00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:00,740
So now we had the one who didn't take the coper.

1291
00:32:00,740 --> 00:32:02,740
We still have a lot to think about.

1292
00:32:02,740 --> 00:32:03,740
Yes.

1293
00:32:03,740 --> 00:32:05,740
Well, it really went a few weeks.

1294
00:32:05,740 --> 00:32:06,740
Hardly fun.

1295
00:32:06,740 --> 00:32:08,740
And then our pilot became sick.

1296
00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:10,740
Pilots, I have to say.

1297
00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:11,740
Yes.

1298
00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:13,740
And he was really unemployed.

1299
00:32:13,740 --> 00:32:15,740
So he couldn't fly anymore.

1300
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:18,740
But then you have to find a pilot.

1301
00:32:18,740 --> 00:32:19,740
That doesn't work in the Netherlands.

1302
00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:21,740
And I wouldn't want to quit.

1303
00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:24,740
And then we also said, well, God doesn't want this to work.

1304
00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:25,740
No.

1305
00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:26,740
That was clear.

1306
00:32:26,740 --> 00:32:28,740
So are the pilots and the...

1307
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:30,740
We have made a lot of ads ourselves.

1308
00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:31,740
Yes, a lot.

1309
00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:32,740
And as much as possible.

1310
00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:34,740
That was what they meant by those rides.

1311
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:37,740
But of course that was sometimes a bit of a promoter.

1312
00:32:37,740 --> 00:32:38,740
To keep the television on.

1313
00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:39,740
But listen, in the meantime.

1314
00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:41,740
We had sold the helicopter.

1315
00:32:41,740 --> 00:32:42,740
Yes.

1316
00:32:42,740 --> 00:32:44,740
Simon came back to the Netherlands.

1317
00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:46,740
And we had...

1318
00:32:46,740 --> 00:32:48,740
He had gone away.

1319
00:32:48,740 --> 00:32:49,740
I didn't close anything.

1320
00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:50,740
The pin fit and so on.

1321
00:32:50,740 --> 00:32:52,740
He just came with the money.

1322
00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:56,740
I said to myself, Simon, I have half of everything we invested.

1323
00:32:56,740 --> 00:32:58,740
Or at least a share.

1324
00:32:58,740 --> 00:33:01,740
I paid back from that helicopter.

1325
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:04,740
I said, now I'm going to rebuild the company.

1326
00:33:04,740 --> 00:33:06,740
And I'm going to put that money back in.

1327
00:33:06,740 --> 00:33:09,740
And if you ever feel like coming back, then you have to come back.

1328
00:33:09,740 --> 00:33:12,740
And otherwise you just have to write down those shares.

1329
00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:14,740
I believe that Jesse is still outside.

1330
00:33:14,740 --> 00:33:15,740
That it is.

1331
00:33:15,740 --> 00:33:16,740
Yes?

1332
00:33:16,740 --> 00:33:17,740
Yes.

1333
00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:20,740
No, stay there for a while.

1334
00:33:20,740 --> 00:33:22,740
But wait a minute. Where is Christine?

1335
00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:24,740
Oh yes, we have another one at home.

1336
00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:25,740
No, wait a minute.

1337
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:26,740
I'm going to scout her.

1338
00:33:26,740 --> 00:33:29,740
Look if Jesse is outside.

1339
00:33:29,740 --> 00:33:30,740
I can follow her.

1340
00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:32,740
I think I left her in the garden.

1341
00:33:32,740 --> 00:33:33,740
I forgot to get in.

1342
00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:35,740
I thought so.

1343
00:33:35,740 --> 00:33:37,740
Because I don't know.

1344
00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:40,740
But there is a reason why that little one is blabbering.

1345
00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:42,740
Wait a minute. I think I have something new to pick up.

1346
00:33:44,740 --> 00:33:50,740
Hey, can you let Jesse in?

1347
00:33:50,740 --> 00:33:52,740
Why blabbering?

1348
00:33:55,740 --> 00:33:57,740
Let's see what she says.

1349
00:33:59,740 --> 00:34:01,740
Did you hear the door open?

1350
00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:08,740
Hey, Christina.

1351
00:34:10,740 --> 00:34:11,740
Christina.

1352
00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:13,740
Christina.

1353
00:34:13,740 --> 00:34:14,740
Yes.

1354
00:34:14,740 --> 00:34:15,740
Come here.

1355
00:34:15,740 --> 00:34:17,740
Can you let Jesse in?

1356
00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:18,740
Yes.

1357
00:34:18,740 --> 00:34:19,740
Just a minute.

1358
00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:20,740
I don't know.

1359
00:34:20,740 --> 00:34:21,740
No, we are podcasting.

1360
00:34:21,740 --> 00:34:22,740
Yes, I know.

1361
00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:23,740
I'll tell you.

1362
00:34:23,740 --> 00:34:24,740
I don't know.

1363
00:34:24,740 --> 00:34:26,740
You are going to blow the whole vibe here.

1364
00:34:26,740 --> 00:34:28,740
We are in a podcast.

1365
00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:33,740
No, you don't know that either.

1366
00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:37,740
Hey, hon.

1367
00:34:37,740 --> 00:34:39,740
This is extremely boring.

1368
00:34:39,740 --> 00:34:41,740
From Alex here?

1369
00:34:41,740 --> 00:34:42,740
From me.

1370
00:34:42,740 --> 00:34:43,740
Oh, Schaad.

1371
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:44,740
Hello.

1372
00:34:44,740 --> 00:34:46,740
No.

1373
00:34:46,740 --> 00:34:47,740
Hon.

1374
00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:48,740
Wait a minute.

1375
00:34:48,740 --> 00:34:50,740
I'm going to think about that.

1376
00:34:50,740 --> 00:34:53,740
Most of the time I say, I'm busy.

1377
00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:54,740
I'll call you back.

1378
00:34:54,740 --> 00:34:55,740
Yes.

1379
00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:57,740
Oh, I hope this is very important.

1380
00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:58,740
Oh, okay.

1381
00:34:58,740 --> 00:35:00,740
It's possible that I still have that.

1382
00:35:00,740 --> 00:35:01,740
Go and see.

1383
00:35:01,740 --> 00:35:02,740
See you.

1384
00:35:02,740 --> 00:35:03,740
Call you back.

1385
00:35:03,740 --> 00:35:04,740
Bye.

1386
00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:06,740
Yes, it's real.

1387
00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:08,740
All throughout life.

1388
00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:09,740
Well, whatever.

1389
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:10,740
Yes.

1390
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:13,740
So Simon was at the top.

1391
00:35:13,740 --> 00:35:16,740
And I was there.

1392
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,740
I still have a year and something of three months.

1393
00:35:20,740 --> 00:35:24,740
So I put all that money back in the new operation.

1394
00:35:24,740 --> 00:35:25,740
With the new helicopter.

1395
00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:26,740
With the new hangar.

1396
00:35:26,740 --> 00:35:27,740
All back.

1397
00:35:27,740 --> 00:35:28,740
But it was safe.

1398
00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:31,740
Because I was going to do a lot with that guy in England or Cambodia.

1399
00:35:31,740 --> 00:35:33,740
And now he's in Cambodia, guys.

1400
00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:35,740
No, that's nice and fresh.

1401
00:35:35,740 --> 00:35:40,740
And then the pilot got sick.

1402
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:41,740
The workers were sick.

1403
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:42,740
I said, you know what?

1404
00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:44,740
I had to do that a lot earlier.

1405
00:35:44,740 --> 00:35:45,740
I put that whole thing on.

1406
00:35:45,740 --> 00:35:48,740
I paid their three months off.

1407
00:35:48,740 --> 00:35:52,740
And I also started a new company with them.

1408
00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:54,740
Where they were also shareholders.

1409
00:35:54,740 --> 00:35:56,740
For the Amsterdam Heliport.

1410
00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:57,740
For the Helihave.

1411
00:35:57,740 --> 00:35:58,740
Yes, yes, yes.

1412
00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:05,740
And then I had them on loan three quarters of a year ago.

1413
00:36:05,740 --> 00:36:08,740
So that just went on.

1414
00:36:08,740 --> 00:36:10,740
But up, away with it.

1415
00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:13,740
So I asked myself the old man for that money.

1416
00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:16,740
Because there are two debtors.

1417
00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:18,740
Simon and I.

1418
00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:21,740
And now I've put all that money back in.

1419
00:36:21,740 --> 00:36:24,740
So I actually invested more than he did.

1420
00:36:24,740 --> 00:36:25,740
Yes.

1421
00:36:25,740 --> 00:36:26,740
And you worked hard.

1422
00:36:26,740 --> 00:36:27,740
Yes.

1423
00:36:27,740 --> 00:36:31,740
And then he said, I'll close that tent.

1424
00:36:31,740 --> 00:36:33,740
And so no one gets paid.

1425
00:36:33,740 --> 00:36:35,740
No.

1426
00:36:35,740 --> 00:36:39,740
And then it happens that there's a curator.

1427
00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:41,740
I've never heard of him.

1428
00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:42,740
Well, I don't know.

1429
00:36:42,740 --> 00:36:44,740
Because I'm an American entrepreneur.

1430
00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:45,740
And that doesn't exist.

1431
00:36:45,740 --> 00:36:48,740
And that man suddenly started through the newspaper.

1432
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:49,740
Yes.

1433
00:36:49,740 --> 00:36:50,740
Through his friend Martijn Kohlhove.

1434
00:36:50,740 --> 00:36:52,740
I think it's so rough, too.

1435
00:36:52,740 --> 00:36:53,740
I think so.

1436
00:36:53,740 --> 00:36:55,740
He started to play other pieces.

1437
00:36:55,740 --> 00:36:57,740
And he was very broad-minded.

1438
00:36:57,740 --> 00:36:59,740
That I...

1439
00:36:59,740 --> 00:37:01,740
That there was tax research.

1440
00:37:01,740 --> 00:37:02,740
He didn't go there.

1441
00:37:02,740 --> 00:37:03,740
That wasn't true.

1442
00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:06,740
No, but he looked for contact with the tax service.

1443
00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:08,740
In order to start their research.

1444
00:37:08,740 --> 00:37:09,740
What has happened.

1445
00:37:09,740 --> 00:37:10,740
Boeven, boeven.

1446
00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:11,740
Yes.

1447
00:37:11,740 --> 00:37:14,740
So that I flew privately with the helicopter.

1448
00:37:14,740 --> 00:37:15,740
Tax evasion.

1449
00:37:15,740 --> 00:37:16,740
One order.

1450
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:18,740
The administration doesn't fit.

1451
00:37:18,740 --> 00:37:19,740
Did he all agree?

1452
00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:20,740
Yes.

1453
00:37:20,740 --> 00:37:21,740
So, yes.

1454
00:37:21,740 --> 00:37:22,740
And...

1455
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:23,740
Oh, sorry.

1456
00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:24,740
Very...

1457
00:37:24,740 --> 00:37:25,740
Very surprising.

1458
00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:26,740
He had...

1459
00:37:26,740 --> 00:37:28,740
Again, as two debtors.

1460
00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:29,740
I and Simon.

1461
00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:31,740
Both for the same reason.

1462
00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:32,740
Yes.

1463
00:37:32,740 --> 00:37:35,740
He had bought Simon's debt.

1464
00:37:35,740 --> 00:37:37,740
So he worked for himself.

1465
00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:38,740
While he of course...

1466
00:37:38,740 --> 00:37:39,740
And still.

1467
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:40,740
And he also worked for me.

1468
00:37:40,740 --> 00:37:42,740
Because of course I'm also a debtor.

1469
00:37:42,740 --> 00:37:44,740
So it's all very rough.

1470
00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:46,740
But what's so strange is...

1471
00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:49,740
Depending on how you do it in the Netherlands.

1472
00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:51,740
You can just send a letter to the real investors.

1473
00:37:51,740 --> 00:37:53,740
And tell them your story.

1474
00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:55,740
Without there being anything of the opposition party.

1475
00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:57,740
Then you can file a complaint.

1476
00:37:57,740 --> 00:37:58,740
Yes.

1477
00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:00,740
It came from the time of the ship.

1478
00:38:00,740 --> 00:38:01,740
Not a little bit.

1479
00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:03,740
But fucking everything.

1480
00:38:03,740 --> 00:38:05,740
Because of course all the people were involved.

1481
00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:07,740
Where our calculations were.

1482
00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:08,740
Especially with the ABN.

1483
00:38:08,740 --> 00:38:10,740
We also know exactly who.

1484
00:38:10,740 --> 00:38:11,740
And...

1485
00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:13,740
And everything was fixed.

1486
00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:15,740
Really gigantic.

1487
00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:17,740
But also from you.

1488
00:38:17,740 --> 00:38:18,740
And that was...

1489
00:38:18,740 --> 00:38:19,740
And I didn't get it right.

1490
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:21,740
And that was unregistered compensation.

1491
00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:22,740
Because you had...

1492
00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:25,740
He thought that after the calculations were sent.

1493
00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:26,740
What was your name on it.

1494
00:38:26,740 --> 00:38:28,740
Well, you can go.

1495
00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:30,740
So that's not right.

1496
00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:32,740
So then you get all of those things.

1497
00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:33,740
The hero of the house.

1498
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:35,740
Oh man, what a piece of paper.

1499
00:38:35,740 --> 00:38:37,740
And an advocate.

1500
00:38:37,740 --> 00:38:39,740
Outside all these things.

1501
00:38:39,740 --> 00:38:41,740
Outside, because we all save it.

1502
00:38:41,740 --> 00:38:43,740
Outside these things.

1503
00:38:43,740 --> 00:38:44,740
That such a man.

1504
00:38:44,740 --> 00:38:45,740
That constantly.

1505
00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:47,740
In the newspaper.

1506
00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:50,740
So a friend is going to call the telegram.

1507
00:38:50,740 --> 00:38:51,740
In the quote.

1508
00:38:51,740 --> 00:38:52,740
In the words.

1509
00:38:52,740 --> 00:38:53,740
That's terrible.

1510
00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:55,740
Because I think it's something very personal.

1511
00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:58,740
What is difficult enough to solve with such a friend.

1512
00:38:58,740 --> 00:38:59,740
And how he did for example.

1513
00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:01,740
I of course sat with him.

1514
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:04,740
Oh yeah, so the pilot became sick.

1515
00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:06,740
You know, it's so close.

1516
00:39:06,740 --> 00:39:08,740
And the girl, the carrier, is gone.

1517
00:39:08,740 --> 00:39:10,740
Because of her...

1518
00:39:10,740 --> 00:39:11,740
That she can't work anymore.

1519
00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:13,740
Can you imagine how that affected her?

1520
00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:14,740
And she was there, you know.

1521
00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:15,740
It was terrible.

1522
00:39:15,740 --> 00:39:16,740
And you're a man.

1523
00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:17,740
And what's his name?

1524
00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:19,740
Oskamp.

1525
00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:22,740
And if you want to know who that is.

1526
00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:24,740
He once stood in the crowd.

1527
00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:27,740
While he was already in love with us.

1528
00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:29,740
That he was threatened.

1529
00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:30,740
And he had to die.

1530
00:39:30,740 --> 00:39:31,740
Because he...

1531
00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:33,740
There are a lot more people angry at him.

1532
00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:34,740
Yes, exactly.

1533
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:35,740
But crazy.

1534
00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:37,740
I mean, Patty Brat is right.

1535
00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:39,740
But he has it too.

1536
00:39:39,740 --> 00:39:40,740
Is that an assignment?

1537
00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:41,740
A wish?

1538
00:39:41,740 --> 00:39:43,740
No, but that's the only one.

1539
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:46,740
She also said, it just has to be over.

1540
00:39:46,740 --> 00:39:47,740
With these people.

1541
00:39:47,740 --> 00:39:48,740
I mean...

1542
00:39:48,740 --> 00:39:50,740
Oh, I'm still angry at her.

1543
00:39:50,740 --> 00:39:52,740
But she's right about that.

1544
00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:54,740
This just can't be done.

1545
00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:56,740
How do they deal with that?

1546
00:39:56,740 --> 00:39:58,740
Well, long story short.

1547
00:39:58,740 --> 00:39:59,740
That is...

1548
00:39:59,740 --> 00:40:02,740
That's been around for years.

1549
00:40:02,740 --> 00:40:04,740
Years of this matter.

1550
00:40:04,740 --> 00:40:06,740
Yes, because we're talking about when it started.

1551
00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:07,740
2002 or something.

1552
00:40:07,740 --> 00:40:08,740
Yes.

1553
00:40:08,740 --> 00:40:10,740
Years of it.

1554
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:11,740
Three years.

1555
00:40:11,740 --> 00:40:13,740
And so, can I say that again?

1556
00:40:13,740 --> 00:40:14,740
My story.

1557
00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:15,740
So...

1558
00:40:15,740 --> 00:40:17,740
So they come...

1559
00:40:17,740 --> 00:40:18,740
You can see some dwarves.

1560
00:40:18,740 --> 00:40:19,740
I've seen a show like that.

1561
00:40:19,740 --> 00:40:21,740
Oh, you can really come to the street this summer.

1562
00:40:21,740 --> 00:40:23,740
That's how you get into a cardboard box, right?

1563
00:40:23,740 --> 00:40:24,740
Yes, I can really...

1564
00:40:24,740 --> 00:40:26,740
If you can fall back to nothing.

1565
00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:27,740
Yes.

1566
00:40:27,740 --> 00:40:28,740
Then you're smart.

1567
00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:29,740
You're smart.

1568
00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:30,740
And you're...

1569
00:40:30,740 --> 00:40:32,740
Without all those stupid stories,

1570
00:40:32,740 --> 00:40:33,740
you're a huge business man.

1571
00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:34,740
You're also coordinated.

1572
00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:35,740
You have that.

1573
00:40:35,740 --> 00:40:36,740
But you have...

1574
00:40:36,740 --> 00:40:37,740
You have it right for each other.

1575
00:40:37,740 --> 00:40:38,740
So...

1576
00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:40,740
You're not behind the dead.

1577
00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:41,740
You know that they...

1578
00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:42,740
You're smart.

1579
00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:44,740
But if you don't have it, as a regular...

1580
00:40:44,740 --> 00:40:45,740
Yes, you're fucked.

1581
00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:46,740
A businessman.

1582
00:40:46,740 --> 00:40:47,740
A small businessman.

1583
00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:48,740
This happens.

1584
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:49,740
Yes, then you're fucked.

1585
00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:50,740
You're fucked.

1586
00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:52,740
Because then you come to the street.

1587
00:40:52,740 --> 00:40:54,740
And then you don't have an address.

1588
00:40:54,740 --> 00:40:55,740
You come.

1589
00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:56,740
No, I've seen it.

1590
00:40:56,740 --> 00:40:57,740
A TV show about a man...

1591
00:40:57,740 --> 00:40:58,740
Yes.

1592
00:40:58,740 --> 00:40:59,740
Who is...

1593
00:40:59,740 --> 00:41:02,740
And the curator is often in the spotlight in the Netherlands.

1594
00:41:02,740 --> 00:41:03,740
Not just us.

1595
00:41:03,740 --> 00:41:04,740
But a little more.

1596
00:41:04,740 --> 00:41:06,740
But no one can do that.

1597
00:41:06,740 --> 00:41:08,740
Yes, but the whole legal system in the Netherlands.

1598
00:41:08,740 --> 00:41:09,740
It's allowed.

1599
00:41:09,740 --> 00:41:10,740
Yes.

1600
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:11,740
Yes.

1601
00:41:11,740 --> 00:41:12,740
Everyone is in their place.

1602
00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:13,740
Because you have a complaint.

1603
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:15,740
He's just a curator.

1604
00:41:15,740 --> 00:41:16,740
He's just an advocate.

1605
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:17,740
Yes.

1606
00:41:17,740 --> 00:41:18,740
But you have a complaint about him.

1607
00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:19,740
Yes.

1608
00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:20,740
Then he comes to the back.

1609
00:41:20,740 --> 00:41:21,740
And says...

1610
00:41:21,740 --> 00:41:22,740
Don't you want to do that anymore?

1611
00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:23,740
Yes.

1612
00:41:23,740 --> 00:41:24,740
And then...

1613
00:41:24,740 --> 00:41:25,740
So that doesn't make any sense.

1614
00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:26,740
No.

1615
00:41:26,740 --> 00:41:29,740
We come easily, but as a businessman.

1616
00:41:29,740 --> 00:41:30,740
And that's your only business.

1617
00:41:30,740 --> 00:41:32,740
And you have a whole heap of holders in it.

1618
00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:35,740
Just the moment you actually need help to get on your feet.

1619
00:41:35,740 --> 00:41:36,740
Yes.

1620
00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:38,740
And then you'll be forced to do that today.

1621
00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:39,740
Yes.

1622
00:41:39,740 --> 00:41:41,740
This has been happening for the last seven years.

1623
00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:42,740
Yes.

1624
00:41:42,740 --> 00:41:43,740
This is terrible.

1625
00:41:43,740 --> 00:41:45,740
I also heard the week I was in the Netherlands.

1626
00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:48,740
They said that the economy was so terrible in the Netherlands.

1627
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:49,740
Yes, but it's a different problem.

1628
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:50,740
Yes, but okay.

1629
00:41:50,740 --> 00:41:52,740
The Netherlands has destroyed all the entrepreneurs.

1630
00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:53,740
That's what I mean.

1631
00:41:53,740 --> 00:41:54,740
Yes.

1632
00:41:54,740 --> 00:41:55,740
If you...

1633
00:41:55,740 --> 00:41:56,740
Entrepreneurs.

1634
00:41:56,740 --> 00:41:58,740
Because how many people didn't have a job together?

1635
00:41:58,740 --> 00:41:59,740
Fifty percent.

1636
00:41:59,740 --> 00:42:02,740
That's work that you have for other people, right?

1637
00:42:02,740 --> 00:42:03,740
Yes.

1638
00:42:03,740 --> 00:42:07,740
If you go around with your entrepreneurs like this,

1639
00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:10,740
then you know where the country is going to collapse.

1640
00:42:10,740 --> 00:42:12,740
Well, what happens?

1641
00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:14,740
Who said that?

1642
00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:16,740
I don't know who said it.

1643
00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:18,740
We will grow in the Netherlands soon.

1644
00:42:18,740 --> 00:42:19,740
I was your car.

1645
00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:21,740
You clean my house.

1646
00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:25,740
I drive a driver for you.

1647
00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:27,740
Soon we won't make anything in the Netherlands.

1648
00:42:27,740 --> 00:42:28,740
We don't have anything to export.

1649
00:42:28,740 --> 00:42:29,740
We don't have a product.

1650
00:42:29,740 --> 00:42:32,740
We don't have a high industry anymore.

1651
00:42:32,740 --> 00:42:33,740
That's a bit...

1652
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:36,740
That's a bit of a concern for which economy we need.

1653
00:42:36,740 --> 00:42:37,740
But I think so.

1654
00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:39,740
And that can still be remembered when we...

1655
00:42:39,740 --> 00:42:41,740
Do you still want to say that?

1656
00:42:41,740 --> 00:42:42,740
Yes.

1657
00:42:42,740 --> 00:42:47,740
When we were in America, you could also see that the American Dream,

1658
00:42:47,740 --> 00:42:50,740
that also comes from the fact, for example,

1659
00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:52,740
that you often saw, that people...

1660
00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:54,740
Yes, this was a American Dream.

1661
00:42:54,740 --> 00:42:59,740
People who were baking cookies at home and now have a very large cookie factory.

1662
00:42:59,740 --> 00:43:02,740
That they really make the dream come true.

1663
00:43:02,740 --> 00:43:05,740
Because they are just supported in it.

1664
00:43:05,740 --> 00:43:07,740
When you say in America, I have a great idea,

1665
00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:09,740
but I need money,

1666
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:11,740
then there are people there who help you.

1667
00:43:11,740 --> 00:43:12,740
As much as possible.

1668
00:43:12,740 --> 00:43:14,740
Well, then you just have to go to America.

1669
00:43:14,740 --> 00:43:15,740
Yes, that's also true.

1670
00:43:15,740 --> 00:43:19,740
But that's why the rule that American Dream exists.

1671
00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:21,740
Because it's possible.

1672
00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:22,740
Yes, but then I...

1673
00:43:22,740 --> 00:43:25,740
In the Netherlands there is only the Dutch nightmarish.

1674
00:43:25,740 --> 00:43:29,740
Yes, it's just that if you're looking for an American Dream, you have to do it in America.

1675
00:43:29,740 --> 00:43:31,740
It's very bad, what that means.

1676
00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:33,740
What that means.

1677
00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:36,740
I have to say, I was really bad informed about how bad it was.

1678
00:43:36,740 --> 00:43:38,740
Yes, and I told you about it.

1679
00:43:38,740 --> 00:43:40,740
You also have to be honest.

1680
00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:42,740
Ladies and gentlemen, she told me about it.

1681
00:43:42,740 --> 00:43:44,740
Because we started the program, for sure.

1682
00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:45,740
Yes, and you said,

1683
00:43:45,740 --> 00:43:48,740
No, I don't want to.

1684
00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:50,740
No, I don't want to go to the Netherlands.

1685
00:43:50,740 --> 00:43:52,740
But how often do I have to forbid it?

1686
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:53,740
Yes, I know it.

1687
00:43:53,740 --> 00:44:00,740
But not because I think I've been there for a week and the Rotterdamers are so nice.

1688
00:44:00,740 --> 00:44:01,740
They're so sweet.

1689
00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:03,740
We understand each other so well.

1690
00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:04,740
Yes.

1691
00:44:04,740 --> 00:44:07,740
And it's not about the Dutch people, let me put it this way.

1692
00:44:07,740 --> 00:44:09,740
You're just as bad with us.

1693
00:44:09,740 --> 00:44:13,740
I love the Dutch people and I love the Rotterdamers especially.

1694
00:44:13,740 --> 00:44:14,740
That's not it.

1695
00:44:14,740 --> 00:44:16,740
It's not like, huh?

1696
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:22,740
Yes, but what I always tell you and you have to compare me again.

1697
00:44:22,740 --> 00:44:30,740
Is that much less people think about all this shit that slings around in their own world.

1698
00:44:30,740 --> 00:44:33,740
In that so-called showbiz world in the Netherlands.

1699
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:35,740
No one gives a fuck.

1700
00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:41,740
It's really a lot around the world and what it all means to them.

1701
00:44:41,740 --> 00:44:43,740
They're very busy with it.

1702
00:44:43,740 --> 00:44:45,740
And the others have their own problems.

1703
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:47,740
They're doing something else.

1704
00:44:47,740 --> 00:44:48,740
Yes, but this is...

1705
00:44:48,740 --> 00:44:51,740
And especially when you said that everyone was very happy in Rotterdam.

1706
00:44:51,740 --> 00:44:52,740
Yes, very nice.

1707
00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:54,740
It was nice to be there.

1708
00:44:54,740 --> 00:44:57,740
And they have it in their mind.

1709
00:44:57,740 --> 00:45:02,740
Where the people are mostly busy with it is to make their house beautiful.

1710
00:45:02,740 --> 00:45:04,740
You just notice that...

1711
00:45:04,740 --> 00:45:11,740
Because there is a bit of a discontent about the Netherlands and how it runs in the Netherlands.

1712
00:45:11,740 --> 00:45:14,740
And that they all feel a bit cramped.

1713
00:45:14,740 --> 00:45:15,740
Do you know what?

1714
00:45:15,740 --> 00:45:16,740
There is the space...

1715
00:45:16,740 --> 00:45:18,740
Do you know what I would believe?

1716
00:45:18,740 --> 00:45:21,740
That they make fun of it inside.

1717
00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:22,740
And that's what I noticed.

1718
00:45:22,740 --> 00:45:24,740
They have a nice space.

1719
00:45:24,740 --> 00:45:27,740
They have amazing gardens and barbecues.

1720
00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:29,740
They do everything nicely.

1721
00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:31,740
All of the frissias?

1722
00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:32,740
Yes.

1723
00:45:32,740 --> 00:45:35,740
No, but that's what you're going to get.

1724
00:45:35,740 --> 00:45:42,740
The Netherlands has to vote in the referendum on a European constitution.

1725
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:44,740
Within two weeks.

1726
00:45:44,740 --> 00:45:46,740
I believe France will come after that.

1727
00:45:46,740 --> 00:45:49,740
And the Netherlands will vote no.

1728
00:45:49,740 --> 00:45:51,740
That's a big fucking deal.

1729
00:45:51,740 --> 00:45:56,740
You have to imagine, you know about the Constitution of America.

1730
00:45:56,740 --> 00:46:00,740
Where John Hancock and Benjamin Franklin...

1731
00:46:00,740 --> 00:46:02,740
That's where the constitution is.

1732
00:46:02,740 --> 00:46:04,740
Land is created for all men.

1733
00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:06,740
Equal of race, color, creed.

1734
00:46:06,740 --> 00:46:07,740
That kind of thing.

1735
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:08,740
The constitution.

1736
00:46:08,740 --> 00:46:10,740
That's what you hear in Disney World.

1737
00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:13,740
That's all pretty well arranged in this constitution.

1738
00:46:13,740 --> 00:46:15,740
The freedom of the people.

1739
00:46:15,740 --> 00:46:17,740
The constitution is who the power has.

1740
00:46:17,740 --> 00:46:18,740
And...

1741
00:46:18,740 --> 00:46:20,740
That's also an amicron.

1742
00:46:20,740 --> 00:46:21,740
You'll understand that.

1743
00:46:21,740 --> 00:46:23,740
But no one knows where it really comes from.

1744
00:46:23,740 --> 00:46:27,740
But everyone is so dissatisfied with the cabinet and Peter Balkenende,

1745
00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:31,740
and the way they play with Zalm and that all those ministers...

1746
00:46:31,740 --> 00:46:34,740
they're just sitting with all the problems.

1747
00:46:34,740 --> 00:46:36,740
That they're actually...

1748
00:46:36,740 --> 00:46:42,740
is a very good way to make some changes by voting no.

1749
00:46:42,740 --> 00:46:43,740
Really.

1750
00:46:43,740 --> 00:46:47,060
Because the whole world comes about, the whole world press comes about the Netherlands.

1751
00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:52,700
I also read here often in the newspapers, well, the Netherlands has problems and it indeed looks like they're going to vote for the Netherlands.

1752
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:56,420
If the Netherlands vote for the Netherlands, then France can vote for the Netherlands.

1753
00:46:56,420 --> 00:47:00,900
France is anyway a little bit, they want to be on their own.

1754
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:04,620
But how many Dutch people will not go to France?

1755
00:47:04,620 --> 00:47:07,220
Is it a sign for you?

1756
00:47:07,220 --> 00:47:10,860
No, but it is not eaten and so on.

1757
00:47:10,940 --> 00:47:14,820
Well, that would be the whole thing that would blow up.

1758
00:47:14,820 --> 00:47:18,900
Well, then it starts, then the cabinet can also suddenly have to break up.

1759
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:21,820
Yes, there just has to be something to change, there just has to be something to change.

1760
00:47:21,820 --> 00:47:25,740
We have to, yes, we have nothing to do with this.

1761
00:47:25,740 --> 00:47:26,980
We have Tony Blair.

1762
00:47:26,980 --> 00:47:31,140
Well, but that people know, we have not gone away, because we do not like the Netherlands.

1763
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:32,020
That that is true.

1764
00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:32,900
No, not at all.

1765
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:34,420
But just ...

1766
00:47:34,420 --> 00:47:40,260
You are still hearing often that the entrepreneurs, yes, we wanted to go here anyway, but as an entrepreneur,

1767
00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:42,620
we are entrepreneurs, so then ...

1768
00:47:42,620 --> 00:47:44,580
Well, I don't want to anymore, now.

1769
00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:46,020
Have you found enough?

1770
00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:47,020
I have found enough.

1771
00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:48,020
Really?

1772
00:47:48,020 --> 00:47:49,020
Yes.

1773
00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:50,020
Well, I'm still playing.

1774
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:51,020
I'm still enjoying a little bit.

1775
00:47:51,020 --> 00:47:52,020
Yes, I know that.

1776
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:53,020
But you are still young.

1777
00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:54,020
I have to do it.

1778
00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:55,020
OK.

1779
00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:56,020
Certainly.

1780
00:47:56,020 --> 00:47:57,020
Do you want to do this podcast again?

1781
00:47:57,020 --> 00:48:01,740
We are on 48 minutes, from which we have to listen to for sure five minutes.

1782
00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:02,740
You want to make fun of me?

1783
00:48:02,740 --> 00:48:03,740
No, you can't.

1784
00:48:03,740 --> 00:48:04,740
Shall I tell you something nice?

1785
00:48:04,740 --> 00:48:05,740
No, it's not true.

1786
00:48:05,740 --> 00:48:06,740
It's not true.

1787
00:48:06,740 --> 00:48:11,740
Hey, have I already told you how I feel about you?

1788
00:48:11,740 --> 00:48:14,740
Oh, I love you, baby.

1789
00:48:14,740 --> 00:48:15,740
Oh, I love you too.

1790
00:48:15,740 --> 00:48:16,740
Was that it?

1791
00:48:16,740 --> 00:48:17,740
You don't have anything else?

1792
00:48:17,740 --> 00:48:18,740
No, yes.

1793
00:48:18,740 --> 00:48:19,740
Oh.

1794
00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:23,740
What is also funny to tell is that the Adams family ...

1795
00:48:23,740 --> 00:48:24,740
If you say it yourself.

1796
00:48:24,740 --> 00:48:25,740
Adams family ...

1797
00:48:25,740 --> 00:48:26,740
Shall we talk about it next time?

1798
00:48:26,740 --> 00:48:28,740
Shall we talk about it later?

1799
00:48:28,740 --> 00:48:29,740
Later?

1800
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:30,740
No, next time.

1801
00:48:30,740 --> 00:48:31,740
Next time, I mean.

1802
00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:33,740
I'm going to go to America Sunday again.

1803
00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:35,740
Do you want to do it Saturday?

1804
00:48:35,740 --> 00:48:36,740
Yes, that's nice.

1805
00:48:36,740 --> 00:48:39,740
Yes, because that's a story like that again.

1806
00:48:39,740 --> 00:48:41,740
Do you want to do that in a few minutes?

1807
00:48:41,740 --> 00:48:45,740
Oh, by the way, I've told you that.

1808
00:48:45,740 --> 00:48:48,740
Patty Brart had called Yvonne.

1809
00:48:48,740 --> 00:48:50,740
That was on television too.

1810
00:48:50,740 --> 00:48:51,740
Yes.

1811
00:48:51,740 --> 00:48:52,740
Yes, that's what she wants.

1812
00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:54,740
Well, good, but the program is still going.

1813
00:48:54,740 --> 00:48:55,740
Not really, of course.

1814
00:48:55,740 --> 00:48:56,740
But she just wants to score.

1815
00:48:56,740 --> 00:48:58,740
What do you have to do next to such a program?

1816
00:48:58,740 --> 00:49:01,740
If you have made everyone first Russian, then you're going to make everyone good.

1817
00:49:01,740 --> 00:49:02,740
What is next?

1818
00:49:02,740 --> 00:49:03,740
Then do you have a program again?

1819
00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:06,740
What series do you do after that?

1820
00:49:06,740 --> 00:49:12,740
Then she's going to check in an institute or something.

1821
00:49:12,740 --> 00:49:13,740
Hey, let's talk about it.

1822
00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:18,740
I just want to say something controversial, because I don't think I've done that yet.

1823
00:49:18,740 --> 00:49:21,740
I applaud Jack Spiker, man.

1824
00:49:21,740 --> 00:49:25,740
I know that everyone in the Netherlands thinks I'm Lul, and on the left and on the right, full.

1825
00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:28,740
But believe me, that Farah is also a little guy.

1826
00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:30,740
How do you know?

1827
00:49:30,740 --> 00:49:32,740
Baby, I am a media professional.

1828
00:49:32,740 --> 00:49:34,740
Who was at the Farah?

1829
00:49:34,740 --> 00:49:35,740
I know.

1830
00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:36,740
I know what happened at the Farah.

1831
00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:38,740
Look at all the people who do it today.

1832
00:49:38,740 --> 00:49:41,740
Jeroen Soer, the most commercial motherfucker in the radio that I know.

1833
00:49:41,740 --> 00:49:43,740
That kind of people.

1834
00:49:43,740 --> 00:49:44,740
No, really.

1835
00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:47,740
But what the Farah wanted to give commercially, at a glance.

1836
00:49:47,740 --> 00:49:48,740
Vera Keur.

1837
00:49:48,740 --> 00:49:55,740
Well, I think that Jack Spiker, man, finally gets the space to do what he wants.

1838
00:49:55,740 --> 00:49:56,740
Really.

1839
00:49:56,740 --> 00:49:57,740
I'm not my friend.

1840
00:49:57,740 --> 00:49:58,740
Really not.

1841
00:49:58,740 --> 00:50:00,740
No, he certainly doesn't.

1842
00:50:00,740 --> 00:50:01,740
He doesn't like us either.

1843
00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:03,740
And I don't believe in the project of John de Mol.

1844
00:50:03,740 --> 00:50:05,740
I think it's all heart-to-heart, fun and nice.

1845
00:50:05,740 --> 00:50:07,740
But the Netherlands is too small.

1846
00:50:07,740 --> 00:50:10,740
With football, you can take heart-to-heart money well.

1847
00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:15,740
But are you going to give out useless things on the back?

1848
00:50:15,740 --> 00:50:19,740
Who is waiting for a new RTL4?

1849
00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:21,740
There are already 15 shows in the Netherlands.

1850
00:50:21,740 --> 00:50:22,740
It's not interesting.

1851
00:50:22,740 --> 00:50:23,740
I have it by the way.

1852
00:50:23,740 --> 00:50:27,740
He makes good shows, but I prefer that he sells that to the public.

1853
00:50:27,740 --> 00:50:29,740
You think it's a bad idea.

1854
00:50:29,740 --> 00:50:30,740
I don't think it's a good idea.

1855
00:50:30,740 --> 00:50:33,740
No, I know what he wants.

1856
00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:36,740
What does he have in his head?

1857
00:50:36,740 --> 00:50:40,740
I know exactly what he believes, and that's the whole story.

1858
00:50:40,740 --> 00:50:48,740
He believes that you can go together with the Internet, mobile phones, SMS, etc.

1859
00:50:48,740 --> 00:50:52,740
and television.

1860
00:50:52,740 --> 00:50:54,740
And I believe in that.

1861
00:50:55,740 --> 00:51:00,740
Before Big Brother, I was with Big Brother at the beginning.

1862
00:51:00,740 --> 00:51:03,740
I had to come to his office in the middle of the night.

1863
00:51:03,740 --> 00:51:05,740
We already knew that.

1864
00:51:05,740 --> 00:51:06,740
With Bart?

1865
00:51:06,740 --> 00:51:08,740
Yes, with Bart at the beginning.

1866
00:51:08,740 --> 00:51:10,740
He was someone of Big Brother.

1867
00:51:10,740 --> 00:51:13,740
I couldn't buy the Internet rights for 2 million.

1868
00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:14,740
He wanted to join you.

1869
00:51:14,740 --> 00:51:16,740
I didn't have it then.

1870
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:18,740
That was a mistake.

1871
00:51:18,740 --> 00:51:19,740
I didn't have it.

1872
00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:21,740
It was before we were in the Netherlands.

1873
00:51:21,740 --> 00:51:23,740
It was long before the company was sold.

1874
00:51:23,740 --> 00:51:26,740
I didn't have 2 million to put down.

1875
00:51:26,740 --> 00:51:28,740
To stop it?

1876
00:51:28,740 --> 00:51:30,740
No, it's done.

1877
00:51:30,740 --> 00:51:32,740
But I didn't believe it.

1878
00:51:32,740 --> 00:51:35,740
If I had really believed it, I would have had the money.

1879
00:51:35,740 --> 00:51:36,740
No, I believed it.

1880
00:51:36,740 --> 00:51:37,740
That was wrong.

1881
00:51:37,740 --> 00:51:39,740
What happened next?

1882
00:51:39,740 --> 00:51:41,740
Big Brother had a hit.

1883
00:51:41,740 --> 00:51:43,740
That went around the whole world.

1884
00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:45,740
Then the rights were suddenly interesting.

1885
00:51:45,740 --> 00:51:46,740
It doesn't matter.

1886
00:51:46,740 --> 00:51:48,740
He believed that they had to go together.

1887
00:51:48,740 --> 00:51:50,740
And I believe that too.

1888
00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:52,740
But I see it much more in a way...

1889
00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:56,740
...that the gloss-up is made.

1890
00:51:56,740 --> 00:51:59,740
That the internet thing is rolling.

1891
00:51:59,740 --> 00:52:03,740
That's what I believe in.

1892
00:52:03,740 --> 00:52:05,740
I have to say that.

1893
00:52:05,740 --> 00:52:07,740
Because I see it on everyone.

1894
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:09,740
But on the internet.

1895
00:52:09,740 --> 00:52:10,740
Hey, the internet.

1896
00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:12,740
That could be something.

1897
00:52:12,740 --> 00:52:14,740
I'm from the Bakkenliedtelephone.

1898
00:52:14,740 --> 00:52:17,740
Internet world.

1899
00:52:17,740 --> 00:52:19,740
That's what it is.

1900
00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:21,740
It's always on display.

1901
00:52:21,740 --> 00:52:22,740
It is.

1902
00:52:22,740 --> 00:52:23,740
And I believe it.

1903
00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:25,740
You understand what I mean.

1904
00:52:25,740 --> 00:52:27,740
He takes it from the big...

1905
00:52:27,740 --> 00:52:30,740
I mean the versetel of the majority...

1906
00:52:30,740 --> 00:52:32,740
...of the majority.

1907
00:52:32,740 --> 00:52:35,740
And then the talent of Hilversum...

1908
00:52:35,740 --> 00:52:37,740
...the talent of the shareholders.

1909
00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:39,740
They do it together.

1910
00:52:39,740 --> 00:52:41,740
And then it has to be done...

1911
00:52:41,740 --> 00:52:43,740
...with television production and big telecoms.

1912
00:52:43,740 --> 00:52:45,740
But I don't believe it.

1913
00:52:45,740 --> 00:52:48,740
It's the most expensive way of working.

1914
00:52:48,740 --> 00:52:50,740
And I see the gloss-up.

1915
00:52:50,740 --> 00:52:52,740
I see people who...

1916
00:52:52,740 --> 00:52:55,740
...are going to distribute money...

1917
00:52:55,740 --> 00:52:56,740
...that's coming in.

1918
00:52:56,740 --> 00:52:58,740
And people who watch movies.

1919
00:52:58,740 --> 00:52:59,740
I believe that.

1920
00:52:59,740 --> 00:53:01,740
The Netherlands is a small market.

1921
00:53:01,740 --> 00:53:03,740
I don't know if it will be enough in the Netherlands.

1922
00:53:03,740 --> 00:53:04,740
But America.

1923
00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:06,740
I think that's the future of television.

1924
00:53:06,740 --> 00:53:09,740
And if we have found a charger...

1925
00:53:09,740 --> 00:53:11,740
...we don't run to the movies...

1926
00:53:11,740 --> 00:53:13,740
...and to the iPads.

1927
00:53:13,740 --> 00:53:15,740
We just have to turn on the radio...

1928
00:53:15,740 --> 00:53:16,740
...or the CNN.

1929
00:53:16,740 --> 00:53:17,740
That's something different.

1930
00:53:17,740 --> 00:53:18,740
That's live.

1931
00:53:18,740 --> 00:53:20,740
That's when we all have to watch it.

1932
00:53:20,740 --> 00:53:22,740
Just look at the gloss-up...

1933
00:53:22,740 --> 00:53:24,740
...and the show Neils...

1934
00:53:24,740 --> 00:53:25,740
...and Boulevard.

1935
00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:29,740
No, but they take everything from the internet.

1936
00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:31,740
You can just look at the internet.

1937
00:53:31,740 --> 00:53:32,740
Voila.

1938
00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:35,740
But that's a very stale production.

1939
00:53:35,740 --> 00:53:37,740
That means there's only money.

1940
00:53:37,740 --> 00:53:39,740
And that's the problem.

1941
00:53:39,740 --> 00:53:41,740
That costs a lot of money.

1942
00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:43,740
Next time on The Erms Family...

1943
00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:45,740
...you can just make it at home.

1944
00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:47,740
And we're going to explain that...

1945
00:53:47,740 --> 00:53:49,740
...and then we're going to tell you...

1946
00:53:49,740 --> 00:53:51,740
...how angry they were about it.

1947
00:53:51,740 --> 00:53:54,740
Because that was actually what happened.

1948
00:53:54,740 --> 00:53:56,740
And where all the hate and hate...

1949
00:53:56,740 --> 00:53:57,740
Oh, there's the tune.

1950
00:53:57,740 --> 00:53:58,740
Sorry.

1951
00:53:59,740 --> 00:54:00,740
Sorry, there's the tune.

1952
00:54:00,740 --> 00:54:03,740
That's a very nice story we're going to tell next time.

1953
00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:05,740
It's very different than what people think.

1954
00:54:11,740 --> 00:54:13,740
Nice conversation.

1955
00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:14,740
It's tight.

1956
00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:17,740
Hey, I'm looking...

1957
00:54:17,740 --> 00:54:19,740
For your teacher.

1958
00:54:19,740 --> 00:54:20,740
Oh, teacher.

1959
00:54:20,740 --> 00:54:22,740
Learn to talk to him.

1960
00:54:23,740 --> 00:54:25,740
Hey, I'm looking forward to the next...

1961
00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:27,740
...right for Zara podcast.

1962
00:54:27,740 --> 00:54:30,740
This is actually also a bit of therapy.

1963
00:54:30,740 --> 00:54:31,740
Yes.

1964
00:54:31,740 --> 00:54:32,740
But we also lost it.

1965
00:54:32,740 --> 00:54:33,740
Hey, I...

1966
00:54:33,740 --> 00:54:35,740
Nobody wants to let us listen to the real truth.

1967
00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:36,740
No, of course not.

1968
00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:38,740
It's also a bit of fun to hear the real truth.

1969
00:54:38,740 --> 00:54:39,740
It's very boring.

1970
00:54:39,740 --> 00:54:40,740
It's very boring.

1971
00:54:40,740 --> 00:54:43,740
I'm going to make a podcast feed for Zara.

1972
00:54:43,740 --> 00:54:45,740
I don't want to be in the daily source code...

1973
00:54:45,740 --> 00:54:47,740
...because all the Americans start to freak out.

1974
00:54:47,740 --> 00:54:48,740
They don't get it.

1975
00:54:48,740 --> 00:54:49,740
Oh.

1976
00:54:49,740 --> 00:54:51,740
So you can only subscribe to this podcast.

1977
00:54:51,740 --> 00:54:53,740
So you always receive this.

1978
00:54:53,740 --> 00:54:54,740
That's nice.

1979
00:54:54,740 --> 00:54:56,740
Yes, for the people who understand Dutch.

1980
00:54:56,740 --> 00:54:58,740
Well, that's a lot.

1981
00:54:58,740 --> 00:55:00,740
What are they?

1982
00:55:00,740 --> 00:55:02,740
And it's not double Dutch.

1983
00:55:03,740 --> 00:55:04,740
Okay.

1984
00:55:04,740 --> 00:55:05,740
A cup of coffee?

1985
00:55:05,740 --> 00:55:06,740
No.

1986
00:55:06,740 --> 00:55:07,740
A cup of tea?

1987
00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:08,740
A cup of tea.

1988
00:55:08,740 --> 00:55:09,740
Okay.

1989
00:55:09,740 --> 00:55:10,740
See you next time.

1990
00:55:10,740 --> 00:55:11,740
Okay.

1991
00:55:11,740 --> 00:55:12,740
Love you.

1992
00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:13,740
Love you too.

1993
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:38,740
[ Music ]

1994
00:55:38,740 --> 00:55:39,740
Bye.
