1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Daily Source Code for May 26, 2005, episode number 185. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Hey everybody, how you doing? 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,000 It's the Daily Source Code coming you from LA. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 That's right, Los Angeles. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,000 How you doing? 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,000 It is, well I'm just, just my volume here. 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:33,000 It is relatively late, 130 as AM been here since around 8 o'clock and got some stuff to talk about. 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:38,000 So I figured trying to blow out a full source code. 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:44,000 I'm still trying to get my levels all set here, hold on a second bear with me while I just set this like that. 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Oops. 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 I'm, uh, there we go, that's better. 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 I'm on the, uh, under G4 Powerboard. 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,000 My, uh, my tablet is with Brian, who stayed in San Francisco. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Brian is also, uh, he does operations for Pod Show. 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 He's, uh, got some work out there and doing some meetings. 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 So I don't have cast plaster in my disposal. 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Um, but I do have some cool stuff to play for, and some stories to share. 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:22,000 So first of all, I got to let you know that, um, after, you know, the week that we had in San Francisco, 19 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Apollo Alto, um, in the Bay Area essentially, uh, staying in, uh, you know, kind of, more, uh, 20 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 mid to low scale hotels. 21 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,000 We splurge and where the Beverly Hills hotel and lovely Beverly Hills, I've never actually, uh, 22 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 stayed here ever, ever been here myself. 23 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 I don't know if Ron has or not, but, you know, we're treating ourselves, but we think we've deserved it. 24 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 We've worked hard. 25 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,000 So it's, uh, so it's really nice. 26 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Had some room service stayed in, um, oh, man. 27 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 I've, I've got to do my laundry. 28 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Um, so I have to send stuff to be pressed and some stuff has to be, uh, has to be clean, 29 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,000 because of course I really only packed enough stuff until Wednesday night. 30 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 But Patricia even said to me, she said, um, you know, I should probably pack more, 31 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 because I know I have a feeling you're going to be staying longer. 32 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 You watch, you'll be staying longer. 33 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 And, uh, she was right. 34 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Of course, because the wife is always right. 35 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,000 We've discussed that before, haven't we? 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 We've established that. 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Um, anyway, they're doing fine. 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 I miss them terribly, both Patricia and Christina. 39 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:32,000 And, uh, yeah, man, we've, uh, I should tell you this, uh, 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000 it's such a long story. 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,000 It's so late, but reminding to tell you about a Christina getting hit at school, 42 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,000 uh, on the nose, actually, well, it's such a great story. 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Anyway, the Patricia wound up, uh, you know, basically kick in some ass at the school, 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,000 and she's, she's like, uh, reminds me of that, uh, of the movie, 45 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,000 of course, of the real-life story of, uh, was it, uh, Joe Brown, 46 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,000 the principal who had the bullhorn and, uh, and the baseball bat, you know, 47 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 it's like Patricia all of a sudden did that to the, to the school, 48 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000 and have fun on the right over now, and she's really, I don't know. 49 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 It's just, uh, something beautiful happened there. 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 And I'm, I'm really, I'm pissed off. 51 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,000 I wasn't there, man, because, you know, together, 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 we're really good at stuff when we're, we're, we're, 53 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 it should happen. So, anyway, parenting stuff will, uh, 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 uh, Patricia and I should probably do a podcast pretty soon. 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,000 We can catch up, uh, and while we're catching up, 56 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,000 which is kind of stuff that, I think is nice and works well. 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 So, anyway, um, staying out here, 58 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 going to stay for a couple of days longer, 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 through the Memorial Day weekend, 60 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 and then going to do one more meeting on Tuesday, 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 and then I'm going to go fly back, because then it will be, 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 uh, shoot almost, uh, 63 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 or is it 10 days or something like that? 64 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 So it's pretty long, but it has been so worth it, 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,000 so much cool stuff has happened yet again today. 66 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Um, and we're going to talk about some of that. 67 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Uh, I'm going to try and keep it within, you know, 68 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,000 30, 40 minutes, but I also wanted to play some excellent music. 69 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,000 I saw that, um, I've been following the Michael Jackson trial now. 70 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 There's, uh, it just looks like, um, 71 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,000 he was completely being railroaded, and as I predicted, 72 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 and I don't think it'll be convicted of anything. 73 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 I think that, you know, this is very clear what's going on. 74 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 I'm telling you, I have some experience in this. 75 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,000 This should happen, 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 and spiraled out of control in his case. 77 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,000 It really did. 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,000 And the media mainstream media has, you know, 79 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 basically even when you say, you know, 80 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 wacko jacko, you're editorializing a report, 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 you know, your news, right? 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 And it's, uh, we know that's happening, 83 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 but that stuff is fucked up, you know, 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 his name is Michael Jackson. 85 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Anyway, um, so a mashup came across my desk. 86 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 P. Doug, PW Fenton has been, uh, 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 producing the pod show over serious, 88 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,000 and he's just been lining up some fucking awesome shows. 89 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Uh, really, really good stuff. 90 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 We've got some great submissions. 91 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Uh, let me just, uh, I have his show notes, 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 which, of course, show up as my show notes. 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 And then I pretend like I did all that laborious work on them. 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Uh, this is, uh, home on a second. 95 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Uh, you're gonna love this. 96 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 That's something, uh, it's a little different. 97 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 I'm not in my, my normal studio now, of course, 98 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000 and I don't have my mixer and my external processing, 99 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 and, and I've kind of forgotten how to do it, 100 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,000 but it does, it does still work pretty well. 101 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Um, this is, uh, sent in by DJ May Lune. 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,000 I think it is. 103 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,000 It's Eminem versus Michael Jackson, 104 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,000 versus Justin, and it's extremely timely. 105 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 It's timely for, uh, what's been going on. 106 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Listen to it. 107 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,000 No. 108 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 This is my best. 109 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 It's so beautiful tonight. 110 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Your eyes are so lovely. 111 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 You're not this sweet. 112 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Never thought I would end up this way. 113 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,000 A lot of people misunderstand me, 114 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,000 but it's because they don't know me at all. 115 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,000 I just want to touch you. 116 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,000 No. 117 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,000 I don't know you. 118 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,000 I don't know you. 119 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,000 I don't know you. 120 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 I think everybody's all gelatin-ship, 121 00:05:56,250 --> 00:08:08,750 [ Music ] 122 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,380 Because I'm like the lead singer of the band 123 00:08:16,250 --> 00:09:33,750 [ Music ] 124 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Yeah. 125 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:37,880 I don't know. It sounds a bit of the first time 126 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,880 Oh no 127 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,680 No, no, but it's a timely mashup, you know, so that's kind of cool. 128 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:47,280 Daily source code, you know, at the Beverly Hills Hotel, this is a really famous place. 129 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,280 This is where a lot of leading ladies have been discovered. 130 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,680 There's all kinds of Hollywood history that comes from this place. 131 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:59,280 They've got the bungalows here and yeah, all that Hollywood magic. 132 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:00,480 All right here. 133 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,080 They actually make a custom hot dog. 134 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,080 16 dollar hot dog. 135 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,080 Okay. 136 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:20,080 So I had reconnected recently with a good friend Julia Goldberg, who used to run all technology for us at 137 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,080 Think New Ideas, like 600 people in the company. 138 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:31,080 It was a lot of laptops of crap and if you think, you know, if you think XP is difficult now, you know, think back, you know, like 139 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,080 7, 8, 9, 10 years. 140 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,080 You know, that was sucked, man. 141 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,080 It was Windows. 142 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,080 It was at Windows 98. 143 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,080 Yeah. 144 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,080 Windows 98, I guess. 145 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,080 And T, maybe 3.5 or something like that. 146 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,080 And so she lives in Los Angeles. 147 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:58,080 And, you know, we had reconnected recently through Steve Leads once again, kind of. 148 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,080 But that's a whole nother story. 149 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:06,080 And so I said, now I might be coming to LA, so she lives nearby turns out. 150 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,080 So she came over. 151 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,080 And of course, Julia understands me. 152 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,080 She's, you know, we've worked together for a long time. 153 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,080 Exactly. 154 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,080 Julia knows what the hard work and boy needs. 155 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,080 So she's a buddy. 156 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,080 She came over and we just caught up, man, we talked for a long time, actually. 157 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,080 And I had the custom made hot dog and the shrimp cocktail. 158 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,080 And she had tuna salad sandwich. 159 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,080 And it was actually, it was really good. 160 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,080 And then all of a sudden, she kind of comes clean. 161 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,080 And she says, you know, she's been listening to the daily source code for eight months. 162 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,080 And she, I mean, but like every single day, every single day. 163 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,080 She knew every single episode. 164 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,080 And man, she's had a lot of time to think about this stuff. 165 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,080 And she had some really good ideas. 166 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,080 And of course, I immediately told her she had to start a podcast. 167 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,080 So I'm sure she will. 168 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,080 And I'm really looking forward to that. 169 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,080 But it was, it was great to see her. 170 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,080 And even cooler that she brought along nice little gifts for your podcaster here. 171 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,080 And the Beverly Hills hotel feeling so lonely. 172 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,080 By the way, I haven't checked yet. 173 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,080 But I bet you they have porn here. 174 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,080 Hold on a second. 175 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,080 Where's the shoot? 176 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,080 I got it. 177 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,080 And this is old school, man. 178 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,080 Did this use the plug? 179 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,080 Oops. 180 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,080 I hope. 181 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,080 Yeah, there we go. 182 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,080 When I was in the castle. 183 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,080 Okay. 184 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,080 I have a love mic on. 185 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,080 Obviously, let's see. 186 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,080 Many accessing interactive services. 187 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,080 Large net movies. 188 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,080 Select one for movies. 189 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,080 Still in theaters. 190 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,080 Hollywood hits. 191 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,080 Yeah. 192 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,080 Adult desires. 193 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,080 Okay. 194 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,080 Adult's only. 195 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,080 Not for minors who are offended by sexually explicit content. 196 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,080 Extra large. 197 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,080 Cool. 198 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,080 Hmm. 199 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,080 Okay. 200 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,080 Anyway. 201 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,080 I have some other exciting stuff to talk about. 202 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,080 So we can. 203 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,080 Shit. 204 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,080 Sorry. 205 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Okay. 206 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,080 Apple today. 207 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,080 Yeah. 208 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,080 Went to Cupertino. 209 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,080 Oops. 210 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,080 Sorry. 211 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,080 I'm over modulating a little bit. 212 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,080 Went to Cupertino. 213 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:12,080 And met with the team that, well, I guess actually this is the iTunes team. 214 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,080 And iTunes music store team. 215 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,080 And there was an one developer there. 216 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,080 All really nice people. 217 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:26,080 And I think Amazon's actually done all of the podcasting coding. 218 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,080 And it was amazing. 219 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:33,080 Now obviously we made an agreement that I just wouldn't talk about, you know, what's in there. 220 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,080 I certainly could tell you about how the meeting went. 221 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,080 But. 222 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,080 And we're working. 223 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,080 Apple is not a company as you know that releases information early. 224 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,080 And they didn't make me sign anything. 225 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,080 No NDA. 226 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,080 You know, it's just a gentleman's agreement. 227 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,080 And I'm honoring that. 228 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,080 But we are talking about, you know, when we can release this news. 229 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,080 And they're admitting this is new for them. 230 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,080 You know, they never release it. 231 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,080 You know, any kind of news before the big unveiling of the product. 232 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,080 But this, this. 233 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,080 Um, community is new to them. 234 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,080 This, this type of content is new to them. 235 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,080 And they really want to step in in the right way. 236 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,080 And they really want to help. 237 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,080 But I know it sounds unbelievable, right? 238 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:20,080 But, um, not all big companies, you know, do things for the reasons you think they do them. 239 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Um, and I can certainly tell you why Apple is so incredibly interested in podcasts. 240 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,080 And that's because, well, for one, they sell iPods. 241 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,080 And that's great. 242 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:35,080 And so they want to facilitate that and do that as an open, as open fashion as possible. 243 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,080 So, um, and we really had no agenda for this meeting. 244 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,080 But at least we didn't agree on one. 245 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,080 Just, hey, let's continue our conversation. 246 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:48,080 So we went back and we sat down with this, you know, like five people. 247 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:54,080 And, um, it turns out that they, uh, wanted to show me all the features, all the functionality. 248 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:59,080 Uh, all the ideas, you know, what, what's going to happen where, what you're going to see. 249 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:04,080 And if, uh, if I agreed with what they were doing, if, uh, if they thought if I thought it was a good idea, 250 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,080 what was there anything missing, um, uh, I think was unbelievable. 251 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,080 It was, this was, uh, it's going to sound crazy. 252 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,080 But this was users and developers partying together. 253 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:21,080 And I realized that this meeting, that that doesn't just mean that it has to be, you know, 254 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:27,080 independent users, uh, with independent developers independent of the platform vendor, I guess. 255 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:32,080 So we're trying to say that, uh, a good platform vendor, of course, will party with their users. 256 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:38,080 And here it was, it was actually happening, um, with this whole iPodter, I, 257 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,080 iPodter started out of frustration that this wasn't possible with iTunes. 258 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:48,080 And it was basically a way to make iTunes perform an action, which carried through to the iPod. 259 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:55,080 And of course, that branched out with, with, you know, with incredible work from so many cool developers, um, 260 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,080 which kind of developed version one. 261 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:04,080 And, um, what, what Apple has been doing has been, they've been listening, they've been watching, 262 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,080 they've been observing, they've been paying close attention. 263 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,080 Um, this, of course, they've been doing, I guess, relatively silently. 264 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,080 I had no one to say, hey, I'm, I'm from Apple, and I'm doing this. 265 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,080 Well, actually, that's not true. 266 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:22,080 The dot Mac people have certainly, um, you know, been working with us and working through their own issues, 267 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:28,080 uh, and, and helping out, you know, they've been providing bandwidth and not shutting people off who've had high flow, 268 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:34,080 and they've been doing that purposely, um, because they just wanted it to, to go, you know, 269 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,080 of course, we're going to have to all figure some stuff out. 270 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:45,080 And, uh, you know, there's lots of, lots of stuff to be looked at, but as it comes to, um, 271 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:50,080 iTunes as a, uh, a pod catcher, an iPodter? 272 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,080 Yeah, they got it fucking right, totally. 273 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:59,080 Um, and then doing some, some other stuff that, um, it's just going to be great. 274 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:05,080 So, uh, it was fantastic, you know, to have this thought and, and there it was, 275 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:10,080 a company and actually listened and created it and, and just done just an amazing job. 276 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:15,080 And I know it's, this, of course, sounds like I've been either hypnotized or, uh, 277 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,080 assimilated by the board, but, uh, what if it actually was true? 278 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,080 What if it really is all the things that we've been talking about? 279 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:30,080 Um, and, but, but still in the, um, you know, as open as we, as all of our tools are, 280 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,080 what if it was really true? 281 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,080 Um, I can't, you know, and I'm, I'm always looking for the bullshit. 282 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,080 The bullshit detectors on, on high alert, um, I can't see it. 283 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,080 So anyway, um, I've, as you know, I've requested, you know, 284 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:48,080 when I'd like to start talking about this, um, and I think that's a good thing. 285 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:53,080 And, uh, wouldn't it be interesting if, uh, if Apple, you know, 286 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,080 let us open up that dialogue and started, uh, getting some word out. 287 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,080 So anyway, so that was just fantastic. 288 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,080 It just blew my mind. 289 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,080 It really blew my mind, uh, to be there. 290 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Very interesting people, um, and I see nothing but benefit all around totally. 291 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Uh, okay, uh, but we'll, uh, back to some tunes. 292 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,080 What are we at now? 293 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,080 18 minutes. Oh, cool. That's not it. That's not that bad. 294 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,080 I thought it was going to take longer to get through all that. 295 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,080 Um, what should I do? I've got, oh, um, Mad Weinstein was, uh, 296 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,080 was going to Manhattan this week. 297 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,080 And, uh, she'd emailed me about that and I said, well, would you like to go and 298 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,080 check out the serious satellite radio studios where podshow, uh, 299 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,080 broadcasts on and go see for yourself. 300 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,080 This is amazing. What's going on over there. 301 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,080 And, and there are actually some people who are doing some really creative stuff. 302 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:48,080 And, you know, yeah, their infrastructure is different, uh, way different from ours. 303 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Uh, but, uh, you know, people who are doing, uh, exciting new stuff and people 304 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,080 who are doing more traditional stuff. You know, it's all there. 305 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,080 Uh, and there's some really wacked out people. That's interesting. 306 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,080 Um, and what's cool is Steve Leads, who has been on this show, uh, 307 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:09,080 and been mentioned on this show, uh, he, uh, he does a lot of stuff over there at, uh, 308 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,080 it's serious satellite. Um, and he kind of did a sound seeing 309 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,080 tour together with Madge. And I just want to give you, I mean, 310 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,080 it's what it's like 35 minutes. This is part one. 311 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,080 And it's, it's interesting to listen to, but there's also some, you know, 312 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,080 some typical Madge bands. And here's a Madge is being introduced to someone. 313 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,080 And she's going from studio to studio meeting of these different people 314 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,080 making different shows in different formats and different ways of, of creating them. 315 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,080 Um, and here's an example of what that sounded like. 316 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,080 I think it'll come in here for a few hours and then that's it. 317 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,080 I mean, I imagine they can't spend a whole day like that. 318 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,080 So, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 319 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:50,080 If you had to four hour shift and theory, you should be able to do it in about 45 minutes. 320 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,080 Nice. This is Rich and that's Jose. 321 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,080 This is, this is Madge. 322 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,080 Alright, one's team. Madge is going to have fun. 323 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Oh, cool. 324 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,080 We're on the, hey, Jose program is the hard rock style. 325 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,080 Oh, cool. 326 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:08,080 To represent Madge and rock and the, I'm going to set out which is sort of a college piece. 327 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Okay. 328 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,080 Yeah, welcome. 329 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Thank you. 330 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,080 But you play on your, what are you going to be for? 331 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:18,080 Well, I mostly, um, I do, uh, talk and we do a left wing sort of, um, I call, 332 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,080 people like, uh, amculture accounts. 333 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,080 Oh, they're nice. 334 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,080 I say really nasty sounds about assholes. 335 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,080 Yeah, I'm with, um, Adam Curry's channel. 336 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,080 I love to be helping him out. 337 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,080 Excellent. 338 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,080 Programming that. 339 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,080 So it's a podcast. 340 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,080 We're on a podcast. 341 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,080 Oh, right on. 342 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,080 Yeah. 343 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,080 Right down. 344 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,080 So we're going to take you to the recording right now. 345 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,080 Yeah. 346 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,080 Yeah. 347 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,080 It's like done the radio for the first time. 348 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Yeah. 349 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,080 So I'm on the radio. 350 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,080 I'm on the podcast. 351 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,080 But your name. 352 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,080 No, that's great. 353 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,080 No, man. 354 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,080 Who? 355 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,080 She's. 356 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,080 She's got this tool, her son. 357 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,080 Oh. 358 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Did it be cut in by her? 359 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,080 Yeah, this is a great story. 360 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,080 You got to listen to this guy. 361 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,080 You get the music. 362 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,080 Like this is a neat invest of. 363 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,080 Like a satinist. 364 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,080 Ah, uh, wow. 365 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,080 It was pretty fucked up. 366 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,080 What is cool. 367 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,080 Yeah, I don't know if this is to do it with your students. 368 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,080 And then you've confirmed the program. 369 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,080 I kind of knew Satan would be so high in the sky like this. 370 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,080 But I try to keep it even now. 371 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,080 I mean, it's true. 372 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,080 But we've got it. 373 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,080 It's Satan. 374 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,080 I try to keep it. 375 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,080 If that player sits down and he's back, 376 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,080 I got to take her shit back. 377 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,080 Right next to her. 378 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,080 No kidding. 379 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,080 So it's like a meal. 380 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,080 It's pretty cool. 381 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,080 That way I keep balance. 382 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,080 And the guy laid his things. 383 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,080 That's interesting. 384 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,080 But you get the devil's promises. 385 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,080 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 386 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,080 But I definitely appreciate what he's got. 387 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,080 So you've done a lot of drugs. 388 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,080 Yeah, too. 389 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,080 I don't know. 390 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,080 Oh, man. 391 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,080 That kind of works as serious. 392 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,080 He should be working with us. 393 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,080 He should be doing a podcast. 394 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,080 That's very interesting. 395 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,080 Okay. 396 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,080 Podsafe Music. 397 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,080 This one is a good friend of PW Fenton. 398 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Oh, fuck. 399 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,080 Excuse me. 400 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,080 I'm uploading some tracks to his server. 401 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,080 And it's like crapping out. 402 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,080 I hate that. 403 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,080 Hold on. 404 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,080 Shoot. 405 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,080 Oh, man. 406 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,080 See, it's great. 407 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,080 You can do everything from the road. 408 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,080 But the internet connection. 409 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,080 Sometimes are just not really that good. 410 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,080 Okay. 411 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,080 Fenton PWbs. 412 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,080 This is the New York Blues Queen. 413 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,080 This is Podsafe Music from Roxie Perry. 414 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,080 It's from a new CD. 415 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,080 Back in Losville. 416 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:41,080 And of course, I'll put links to Roxie Perry and the show notes on today's source code. 417 00:22:43,750 --> 00:25:03,750 [ Music ] 418 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,080 They'll have blessings. 419 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,080 I told you that. 420 00:25:11,250 --> 00:25:36,080 [ Music ] 421 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,080 Yeah. 422 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,080 Roxie Perry. 423 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,080 Back in blue is there. 424 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:52,080 There was actually this song that motivated me to do a source code at this kind of day. 425 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,080 Did I just say night of day? 426 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,080 That was stupid. 427 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Time of day. 428 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:02,080 Oh man, that sounds great. 429 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,080 And hopefully we'll speak again on Friday. 430 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,080 We don't have a great Memorial Day weekend. 431 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,080 Somewhere I'll put something out there. 432 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,080 So good things happen in my friends. 433 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,080 Really positive. 434 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,080 Like it. 435 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,080 And we flew first class in American Airlines. 436 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,080 Just a spite America rest. 437 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:37,080 You're not everybody take care. 438 00:26:41,250 --> 00:27:31,250 [ Music ] 439 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Thank you for watching.