1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Adam Curry, web pioneer of Gumpshite, you decide. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,000 16 million dollars worth of airplane strapped to my ass. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,000 In the next generation radio content in my ears. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000 We don't need no sticky ingredients in it. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,000 I like to think I'm flying into the future. 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,000 I'm guessing it's Adam Curry. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,000 And it's the daily source code for July 8, 2005. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,000 I'm living for a little bit. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 I didn't expect to hang you so early in the program. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,000 I'm just rebooted as well. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Everybody how you doing is the Friday edition of your daily source code. 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Coming to you from Curry Cottage and Gilford, the United Kingdom. 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Up 30-40 minutes of meaningless nonsense. 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,000 I do have a lot to talk about today. 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,000 In fact, I wrote down a list so I wouldn't get confused. 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Also, I reached into the old firewire drive and pulled out an old pod save tune 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 that I hadn't played in a while, but just listening to the stuff. 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Have a piece of audio from when I was 16 years old. 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,000 One of my first radio shows. 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,000 We talked about it so much on the show I figured. 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 And I'll actually tell you where you can subscribe to a feed of my old radio shows, 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,000 which is frightening at least. 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:35,000 So it is July 8, it is one day after the multiple terrorist attacks in London. 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:41,000 And I am so incredibly impressed by the Brits. 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Man, the word I guess everyone using is vigilance. 26 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Very vigilance. 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Which means they are aware, they are paying attention, 28 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 but they are also getting about with their business. 29 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Just getting on and we will not be knocked down. 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,000 And just very wonderful to see. 31 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,000 I'll talk a little bit more about that on today's show. 32 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Also, this is a mashup. 33 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 It is a little wacky. 34 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 And you have to kind of get used to it at first, 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,000 but I think it is 40 intros mixed into one. 36 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 It is by Osmiso. 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 It is called intros inspection. 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,000 See if you can count all the intros and recognize every single one of them. 39 00:02:28,750 --> 00:04:33,750 [ Music ] 40 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 She must be great, you're great, you're great, you're great. 41 00:04:46,250 --> 00:08:29,000 [ Music ] 42 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:34,000 The pain is not right in the face 43 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,000 The pain is not right in the face 44 00:08:41,250 --> 00:09:36,250 [ Music ] 45 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:47,000 This is the end. 46 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:55,000 I've told you it was kind of wacky, kind of weird. 47 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 I liked it though. 48 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,320 It was probably the only mashup I've ever played on the source code that actually fits into 49 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,000 some kind of fair use with the short little segments. 50 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Very cool. 51 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Very different. 52 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 That's for sure. 53 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,000 And the rhythm kind of changed along the way, but it was nice. 54 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000 I actually reminded me of some of the work Patricia's done in the past. 55 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 I should play one of those, one of her medlies. 56 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,000 She's done a lot of cool ones. 57 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Okay. 58 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 A little bit of complaining of first upfront. 59 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,000 I really messed up my shoulder. 60 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:28,000 And since I've been complaining to Patricia, I was complaining to you a little bit. 61 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:35,000 It's stupid, but somehow I've managed to aggravate a tendon in my shoulder. 62 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,000 And it's actually pinching off nerves that run down to my arm and into my fingers. 63 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,000 And so I'm actually in a sling and I'm kind of part of part of the part-way in the sling today 64 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,000 to be able to man the buttons to hear my other Mac go in the background there. 65 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 And it's on overdrive. 66 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 It's nice the day. 67 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,000 It's about 23, 24 degrees centigrade. 68 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,000 It's been good. 69 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:03,000 And of course what still dominates the news is the terrorist attacks yesterday in London. 70 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,000 And people were asked if you didn't have to drive into London, please don't. 71 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 If you could stay at home, please stay at home. 72 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Now we had a trip planned for the city tomorrow Saturday. 73 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,000 And we wanted to go see the crown jewels at the tower and want to walk around, want to go on the London Eye. 74 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 And so what we're going to do is we're going to wait. 75 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 And if the word is, you know, please stay home. 76 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Then we'll stay home. 77 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,000 If the word is open for business, we're definitely going. 78 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:33,000 And really, that's the general vibe here is, you know, this was a cowardly attack. 79 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 And we're not going to let it bring us down. 80 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,000 We're going to try it in the forties with the Blitz Creek. 81 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,000 They went through it in the 80s and the 90s with the IRA. 82 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 And, you know, it's tough, tough cookies here. 83 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Let me tell you, New York, a former New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani was in London. 84 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,000 I guess by coincidence, maybe for the G8 that he was in the neighborhood. 85 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,000 And he said that the way the Londoner's responded was very admirable. 86 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,000 And I believe that completely, it's just amazing how, 87 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 how the press is taking this. 88 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 And also, something of nowhere to be. 89 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 I think the BBC does not, I'm sure they have really horrible footage. 90 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 But they just don't show it. 91 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:19,000 They do have doctors on talking about, you know, all the horrible things that happened to people, 92 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,000 victims of a bomb blast literally talking about dismemberment. 93 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 But they don't show it. 94 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 And that, I think, deafening. 95 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,000 And they also, they don't, they haven't been overhyping this the way. 96 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 The, um, that has probably been done in the States to haven't seen any of the footage, 97 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 but some people have told me that already the graphics are swirling. 98 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,000 And, you know, the war on terror took them to the drums come in. 99 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,000 And this was handled very professionally like, like any, 100 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,000 a humongous news event. 101 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,000 But with the, with a certain amount of dignity in class that is definitely to be commended. 102 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,000 A little disappointing, I have to say, is, um, 103 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,000 I think that lots of people have, um, 104 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:04,000 phone cams, because they were showing a lot of that footage on, uh, on TV on the BBC, 105 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Sky News, ITV, they were showing, uh, video footage that were showing camera pictures. 106 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,000 But I just didn't see a heck of a lot show up on web logs. 107 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,000 It seems like there's some disconnect between these mobile phones. 108 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,000 And, uh, and, uh, however, you know, wherever the pictures go, 109 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,000 I know that people, uh, keep them on the phone a lot and trade them out through Bluetooth and, 110 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000 and other means and picture messaging is pretty big here in the UK. 111 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 But it seems like they're still disconnect with getting them onto the web, 112 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,000 but it seems like there's a lot of links in some form structured like a web log where we can really find it. 113 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:36,000 So stuff to work on, uh, as we continue to take back the media into our own hands. 114 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Oh, yes. And, oh, yeah, this was amazing. 115 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Um, I couldn't believe it, although I did see a report, um, on the BBC News website, 116 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,000 which I'll put a link to it in the, in the show notes for today's podcast, 117 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:55,000 that apparently some hotels doubled the price of a room, uh, Thursday night last night. 118 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,000 Which is called price gouging. In the States, if you do that, if you're a price gouging, 119 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,000 man, you get, you get tired and feathered and driven out of town. 120 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,000 I mean, that is just, you know, unacceptable in, in US culture. 121 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,000 And I can't believe that, that hotels would do that. 122 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Now, I'll, I'll say upfront that this was the BBC reporting apparently on, um, 123 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:23,000 last minute.com, uh, who had warned its members that hotel prices were doubling. 124 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,000 Um, but there's not a mention of a single hotel, uh, which, you know, 125 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,000 and then I always got to wonder, okay, how come, you know, you, you don't just tell us which hotels 126 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 were doing that so that we could, you know, take a consumer action. 127 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,000 Um, I can only assume because it's unconfirmed. 128 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,000 And, uh, the same goes for the al Qaeda group that has claimed responsibility. 129 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,000 I think it's secrets of the underground al Qaeda or something like that. 130 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,000 And, you know, apparently there's this website that had, um, 131 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,000 a statement on it claiming, uh, the terrorist bombings. 132 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,000 But they never linked to it from any of these stories. 133 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 I mean, what is that all about? 134 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,000 And then I go to Google and I type in the exact name of that group. 135 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,000 And, you know, there's no website that pops up, you know, that, that is connected to that. 136 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,000 So, like, uh, some of that stuff, uh, you just, you just got a wonder. 137 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,000 That's all. 138 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,000 So anyway, I'm sure that, uh, we'll get to the bottom of this. 139 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:25,000 And, uh, you know, the, uh, the United Kingdom and London in particular is so wired. 140 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,000 There's so many, what they call CCTV cameras. 141 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,000 So close caption, I guess. 142 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Or, yeah, close caption. 143 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,000 How does it make sense? 144 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Close circuit. 145 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,000 Sorry, close circuit televisions. 146 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Stores have them. 147 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Every street corner has them. 148 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 So I think they can probably follow, for instance, for the two, 149 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 it'll be a little more difficult, I'm afraid. 150 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,000 But for the, um, for the bus that was blowing up, 151 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,000 they can probably follow the entire route and see who got on and, uh, 152 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,000 and what they were carrying and, you know, it's, uh, and it's pretty high quality stuff. 153 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,000 And they use it all the time and they really do. 154 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,000 It is very, very effective. 155 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 So, let's get them. 156 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Let's hope we can get them. 157 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Okay. 158 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Daily source code. 159 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,000 What are we at now? 160 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 We're at, uh, 16 minutes. 161 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Okay, we're right on track. 162 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Um, let me see. 163 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,000 I do have some promo's lined up for you. 164 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Let's get to those. 165 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Hot chill. 166 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Content that will make you walk the dog and kiss your mother. 167 00:16:24,000 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00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,000 Skepticality.com with a K. 192 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Not the calm of the Skepticality. 193 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Truth in Podcast. 194 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Watch out. 195 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:43,000 You've been assimilated into the cult of the pod father. 196 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,000 By the way, there was a mention of Podcast Ellie in there. 197 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Let me tell you something cool about Podcast Ellie. 198 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:56,000 I've been receiving a lot of email, a lot about iTunes and about the feeds that they use 199 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000 about being listed in the directory. 200 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,000 First of all, the directory, they're doing that themselves. 201 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,000 They populated it with the iPod.org directory. 202 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 It's tough. 203 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000 It's tough doing a directory. 204 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,000 And so I'm trying to see if we can get that a little bit more one-on-one because we have all 205 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:17,000 these volunteers that I potted.org who are essentially maintaining all these nodes. 206 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Marcus, by the way, has now installed the new servers. 207 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Hopefully we'll be able to get a more stable iPod.org for you. 208 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:33,000 It's just been so overloaded with requests. 209 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Let's see where it was. 210 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:42,000 It's a lot easier to maintain it that way through a distributed way. 211 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Because that's what you need when you want. 212 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000 We need to do a big directory. 213 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,000 That makes a lot of sense. 214 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,000 And then let's put an OPML output of the iTunes directory somewhere on the back end. 215 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 So that can be used for yet more directories. 216 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000 It makes a total sense. 217 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 So working on that. 218 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,000 But a lot of people are want to have an iTunes compatible feed. 219 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,000 And if you go to Podcast Ellie and you're registered there, you have your podcast registered 220 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:11,000 but just thought every single one of them is, then you automatically get an iTunes feed, 221 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:16,000 which you can submit into iTunes if you're not listed already. 222 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:23,000 And right now it's just a podcast Ellie slash and some kind of URL. 223 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,000 What we're working on is the ability for you to map a domain name to that feed. 224 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:36,000 So you could actually have it be whatever.yourpodcast.com or RSS.yourpodcast.com, 225 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,000 something like that. 226 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,000 And then you would be able to, if you wanted to, you could move away, which, you know, 227 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,000 basically mitigates, that's the right word mitigates lock in. 228 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000 So it just takes, get it to get rid of it. 229 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 So we're working on that. 230 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,000 We're just working as fast as we can. 231 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Basically. 232 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 So that is something that's really easy. 233 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,000 If you want to have an iTunes compatible feed podcast. 234 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Sally provides them. 235 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Just make sure you're listed in their database. 236 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Something I wanted to say, I wanted to ask if there were any comedians who are out there 237 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,000 who are interested in doing stuff with audio and with podcasting if, you know, 238 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 if you're funny. 239 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,000 And I'm thinking maybe Ron and I on my next trip out west will go to a comedy club 240 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,000 and we'll approach some of the comedians that, you know, if they're any good, hopefully. 241 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,000 But if you, if you, or you know someone who's comedian, 242 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,000 send me an MP3 with some of your stuff, we've got some ideas that might be very cool 243 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000 if you're interested in doing some stuff. 244 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:39,000 And I get a lot of comments from, well, podcast Paul has mentioned it to me before. 245 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:46,000 And he feels that the source code definitely doesn't pay enough attention to podcasts from the UK. 246 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:52,000 So I was scouting around today looking actually for, you know, any type of podcast from yesterday 247 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,000 if anything was was up and about and I hadn't found any. 248 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,000 But I did find something very interesting from James Gardner, 249 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:06,000 but the person who creates the, I think it's the wake up internet podcast. 250 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:11,000 And I wanted to share just a little bit of that podcast with you. 251 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Nice little sound imaging. 252 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,000 There you go. 253 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,000 Adam Curry, web pioneer. 254 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Oh, don't shout. 255 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 You decide. 256 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Hold on. 257 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Hey, baby. 258 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,000 What's that? 259 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Oh, thank you. 260 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000 William Curry, Sam. 261 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Yeah. 262 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Nice. 263 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,000 I think that I can't eat. 264 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Oh, look at what. 265 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000 I want to give my right arm to you. 266 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Well, you can add my left ones. 267 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Fucked up enough. 268 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,000 All right. 269 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Thanks, baby. 270 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Okay. 271 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 I should actually restart that. 272 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Hold on a second because I was so funny. 273 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Hey, listen to what he calls me. 274 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Wake up internet.lux.com. 275 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Adam Curry, web pioneer. 276 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Oh, gobsite. 277 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000 Okay, gobsite. 278 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,000 I looked it up. 279 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000 A person regarded as mean or contemptible. 280 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000 A gobsite. 281 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000 You decide. 282 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Like millions of other iTunes users who upgraded to version 4.9 for its integrated podcast features. 283 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000 I rediscovered Adam Curry this week. 284 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,000 I see rediscovered because I'd become aware of him where back in the middle of last year 285 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,000 when the BBC first brought the concept of podcasting to my attention. 286 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:35,000 Having just listened to him for half an hour on the topics of ranging from podcasting 287 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:40,000 to him getting his pilot's license and his never minded ill informed opinions on the live it 288 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000 concert. 289 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:48,000 I'm firmly of the opinion he is irrelevant and will remain so until he stops podcasting about podcasting 290 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:54,000 and how its very future depends on him and starts actually telling us something worth knowing. 291 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,000 The pioneer of podcasting he may come to be recognized as. 292 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Even lorded over us as in the future. 293 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,000 He's simply not deserved in the light of the web nostalgia for what was hit last week. 294 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:13,000 He seems to have the whole of the west coast of America convinced is actually important, even viral. 295 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:20,000 So I hear by predict within the next year to a year and a half he'll be as relevant to podcasting 296 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,000 as Bill Gates is to open source software development. 297 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 This guy's great. 298 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Okay, I have some comments about this but I wait until the end. 299 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 This is good. 300 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,000 The analogy being that while it was windows and Microsoft which dragged the price of the humble 301 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:43,000 scene down to realistic levels in the mid to late 1990s, it was this very increase in availability 302 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,000 which made the impons for an alternative to the windows operating system all the more pressing. 303 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Similarly, Adam Curry inspires the DJ or in Osol to sit in a dark and room when a bright sunny day 304 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,000 talking to ourselves and pretending like a bunch of seven year olds playing the radio DJ game. 305 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,000 But someone is actually listening and if they are listening they actually care what we're talking about. 306 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,000 Okay, now this is the part where you're going off track. 307 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,000 So I'm going to let you finish up your statement here but you're wrong about a couple things. 308 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,000 Not because it's important or vital that podcasting succeeds and our involvement is key to it, 309 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:22,000 but because the net nerd in Osol feeds on failing like we understand new possibilities. 310 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,000 The possibilities thrown up by the latest trend in information delivery systems. 311 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Just as everybody once led claim to having the most popular channel on down that, 312 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,000 who only days after founding it realized it's sucked to use the command prompt interface. 313 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,000 So all the majority of startup podcasters will drift back into obscurity. 314 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Just as everyone who ever shared a file on Napster spend those nail biting weeks, 315 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,000 waiting for Lars Ulrich to come knocking on their door, demanding his royalty check. 316 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:56,000 So all will the podcasts about how cool it is to be young, white, middle-class student of computers, 317 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:03,000 in the bare area, realize the banality of their life and move on to the next big thing that further serves 318 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,000 to reinforce their faith in all its narrow and thoughtless. 319 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,000 Okay, all right James, so here's, you know, and I hear this a lot, 320 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,000 or people say, well, you know, it's just like web logs and it's all crap. 321 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Well, first of all, it's not. 322 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,000 But there's a distinct difference here between what happened with web logs and what happened with podcasting. 323 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,000 What happened with web logs, it wasn't an inherent desire to publish. 324 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,000 People wanted to have a voice to have a way to get their message out. 325 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,000 And podcasting, it was the reverse. 326 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:43,000 People are dissatisfied with what they were hearing and they were demanding to hear something different. 327 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:53,000 It's not like with publishing of text and pictures and print and magazines where the supply is just endless. 328 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,000 There was a very limited scope of receptions to be made. 329 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,000 There's limited the number of channels, even though it seems like there's a lot, 330 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:07,000 but also the centralized infrastructure does not allow for all these channels to be of, you know, 331 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000 to have original programming, first run programming, 332 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:19,000 which is why reality television has, has caught on so, so big because it's very efficient to make. 333 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,000 That's what television producers and television broadcasters love about it. 334 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000 And people watch it. 335 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,000 They, I don't know, I didn't want to say they like it, but they do watch it. 336 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,000 So it's a listener demand driven medium podcasting is. 337 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,000 And it's, you know, not that we're all looking for the next top 40 radio station or show. 338 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000 We're looking for something fresh, something new, and we're rediscovering all this. 339 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,000 The web tried to go from text and pictures to video. 340 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000 And it kind of bypassed audio. 341 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Yeah, we had a little touching go there because audio was music. 342 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,000 No, audio is so much more stuff that we, oh man, we have forgotten more than we have to learn. 343 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000 I'm telling you. 344 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,000 So we're just going to slowly get back into it. 345 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000 And it's going to be very, very cool. 346 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 Oh, let me plug something here. 347 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,000 If you're interested in making a podcast, go to castblaster.com. 348 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000 That's what we have. 349 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:16,000 The beta version of our podcast creation software is there. 350 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 It's windows only at this point in time. 351 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Lots of people asking for a Mac version. 352 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,000 It always takes longer because the focus is on the window stuff right now. 353 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000 But, you know, we've talked about this before. 354 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000 I'm a Mac guy, so I'd love to have it on a Mac. 355 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,000 So that, you know, that is definite directive. 356 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,000 I think you can create a 10 minute podcast with the beta version. 357 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000 And you'll be able to do that forever with the beta. 358 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Even when it goes 1.0. 359 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,000 And all you have to get from there on is hosting. 360 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:54,000 And that too hopefully will change in the very near future with more pod show offerings. 361 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Let me just see what else I had. 362 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,000 I mean, it's such a shell shock isn't the right word. 363 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:06,000 But I'm in a very, you know, kind of a mellowish mood because it's just so weird over here right now. 364 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 You know, you can't really be happy. 365 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,000 You can't, you don't want to be too upbeat because it just doesn't feel appropriate right now. 366 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000 This stuff has been shocking. 367 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000 It really has. 368 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Okay. 369 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Let me see. 370 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 People, what do I want to say? 371 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000 Oh, yeah, Michael Butler has a new. 372 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,000 That's the rock and roll geek. 373 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Michael Butler has a new podcast. 374 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,000 You can find it is rock and roll geek show rock and roll geek show dot com. 375 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000 But now he has the indie cast, which is all pod safe music. 376 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000 It's a rock and roll geek dot org. 377 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000 And I was listening to it. 378 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000 And that was rocking. 379 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000 It was really, it was really, really good. 380 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,000 So you want to give that a check. 381 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,000 And Michael's also been doing lots of interviews with. 382 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000 So pretty big name. 383 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Yeah. 384 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000 Christina, I'm flat on from Divinals. 385 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Oh, man. 386 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Yeah. 387 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,000 I love this three part series with Kenny Laguna, who's president of black heart records and 388 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Joan Jets manager. 389 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000 And he played in Tommy James in the Shondales. 390 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,000 He had a lot of really cool rock and roll stories to talk about. 391 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000 And it was great. 392 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000 I had to cut up a three part to us all along. 393 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:11,000 And there's a guy in Australia named Tom Schooting, who, I guess he used to live in the Netherlands. 394 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000 It sounds like a Dutch name. 395 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000 So I'm just going to presume that. 396 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000 But he lives in Australia. 397 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,000 And he was a, he's a big fan of a radio show I used to do in the early 80s. 398 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:25,000 I'm talking 81, 82, called Curry and Funinkle, which I did with a partner. 399 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 You're doing Funinkle. 400 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000 And he had to tape the whole bunch of these shows. 401 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,000 And when podcast came along, he started putting up feeds of this show as a podcast. 402 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,000 And I did what I think, and in hindsight, I think it's a really, really good idea is 403 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,000 when we move from the castle, I was getting rid of all the all our stuff. 404 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,000 You know, just trying to get rid of masses amounts of stuff. 405 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,000 I had a huge cardboard box filled with cassette tapes, cassette tapes from my work at 406 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000 Radio Veronica with Curry and Veninkle. 407 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Apparently also some of my early stuff on the pirate radio station. 408 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,000 And I told you that I worked for radio decibel in Amsterdam. 409 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:08,000 And I was, I think, either 16 or 17, probably 16 years old at the time. 410 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Yeah, I think I just was old enough to ride a motorbike. 411 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000 And I called myself John Holden because it was a legal station. 412 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000 So you couldn't use your real name. 413 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000 You had to have like a DJ name. 414 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Because, you know, they would eventually find you or find us and confiscate the transmitters. 415 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000 And just, I was kind of the on-vogue at the time. 416 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000 You use an alias. 417 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:36,000 And so I pretended I was 24. 418 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000 That was my whole stick. 419 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,000 And if you listen to the voice, it's like, no way. 420 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,000 Didn't couldn't even pull off, you know, 19. 421 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000 So just, just hear a little bit of it. 422 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000 And I'll tell you what I thought I was going to listen to more of this tape. 423 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Anyway, this came from the podcast. 424 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000 And I'll put a link to that in the show notes, of course. 425 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Bring it down. 426 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Bring it down. 427 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Bring it down. 428 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Bring it down. 429 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Bring it down. 430 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,000 Bring it down. 431 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Bring it down. 432 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Bring it down. 433 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Bring it down. 434 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Bring it down. 435 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Yeah. 436 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Hey. 437 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:17,000 25 minutes passed noveenth o'clock and we will begin. 438 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Giving away let's see four or five free albums. 439 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,000 And as my photography giving away one right now. 440 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:30,000 So collar number five on one eight four one six eight. 441 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,000 You will win the new dire streets double album, I believe. 442 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,800 Yeah, you hear that sweeper there? 443 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,800 I'm six, two, and stand there. 444 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,400 We spun down my boys to make it sound really low. 445 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,800 So, you know, like the song you're hearing now, 446 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,000 they're a whole, but I just listened to this whole hour-long podcast, 447 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,000 which of course, you know, wasn't just a podcast, 448 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,200 but it was actually, you know, a full couple hours of radio show. 449 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,200 And the music we were playing at the time, 450 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,800 that was really the whole reason that it existed, 451 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,200 is because we were into that type of music 452 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,000 and it wasn't being played on the radio. 453 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,600 So, I, you know, kind of doing automatic analogy 454 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,000 to our pod-safe music, 455 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,000 and I went back into the bin and pulled out Buffy girl. 456 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,200 That's just too. 457 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,000 Hope you like it. 458 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,000 You're so right, it doesn't make sense. 459 00:33:20,000 --> 00:35:56,250 [ Music ] 460 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,800 Buffy Girl, everywhere I go. 461 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,800 It's Pod Safe. 462 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,800 You heard it here on the Daily Source Code. 463 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,800 Link to Buffy Girl's website can be found on the show notes for today's Daily Source Code 464 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,800 for July 8th, 2005. 465 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,800 All right. 466 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,800 So yeah, I've kind of wrapped up most of the work I needed to do this week. 467 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,800 Got some phone calls and stuff coming up. 468 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,800 But it's five after four Friday afternoon. 469 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,800 I'm ready for the weekend. 470 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,800 I certainly hope you are. 471 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,800 Monday will start off with a fresh new week. 472 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,800 We'll be cranking it out. 473 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,800 If you want to subscribe to the Daily Source Code, 474 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,800 you can do that through iTunes. 475 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,800 Just go into the podcast tab and search for Adam Curry or Daily Source Code. 476 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,800 You can also go to data sourcecode.com. 477 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,800 Now, here's something cool if you're using iTunes. 478 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,800 If you're using Safari and iTunes, I have to say. 479 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:04,800 If you see a white on orange XML link for a podcast or just a link to a podcast, 480 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,800 you can actually drag that right into iTunes and your podcast to have. 481 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,800 What an hour! 482 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,800 It's automatic. 483 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,800 You subscribe to me. 484 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,800 Of course, you can use that for any iPod or pod catcher, 485 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,800 such as iPod or iPod or the lemon version. 486 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,800 Adam Curry.com is my email address. 487 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,800 You can send me audio feedback there if you wish. 488 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,800 I'm going to get pretty close to the limit again. 489 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,800 2 gigabytes worth of Gmail so far used. 490 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,800 Where's my infinity plus? 491 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,800 My infinity plus one, guys. 492 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,800 Time to upgrade to another gigabit there. 493 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,800 Make it three. 494 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,800 www.curry.com is the weblog. 495 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,800 I will see you Monday for sure. 496 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,800 Maybe over the weekend. 497 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,800 Have yourself a good one. Bye-bye. 498 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:10,800 www.curry.com 499 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,800 Another pod show podcast. 500 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,800 Stick it in your ear.