1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Delta-share a Charlie 208. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Something remarkable is happening here. Radio is springing free of the regulated 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,000 gatekeepers who've managed what you can hear since radio was invented. It's jumping 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:21,000 into the hands of anyone at all with something or nothing to say. 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 With $16 million worth of airplanes strapped to my ass. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Then the next generation radio content in my ears. 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 I like to think I'm flying into the future. 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Hey everybody, how you doing? This is the Daily Source Code for July 14. 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Wow. What a day it's been. 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Another scorcher. I mean really, really, really hot. Probably as hot as my microphone 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 is right now. Hold on, let me just turn that down. 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,000 What you'll hear in the background from time to time during the show is the Convair. 13 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:08,000 I've got the shade drawn down all the way in front of the cottage studio here. 14 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,000 I've got the Convair full blast filled up with water, trying its best to circulate 15 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:18,000 a little bit of air. Earlier today I had to record some stuff that actually 16 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 could not have any background noise. I had to turn the Convair off. 17 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:27,000 It took like 33 seconds for sweat to start pouring down all over my body. 18 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 It's unbelievably hot. 19 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:34,000 How you doing? It's the Source Code for Thursday, July 14, 2005. 20 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Coming to you from Curry Cottage, my name's Adam Curry. 21 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,000 So yet again a new setup. Yesterday I talked about possibly sitting up at desk. 22 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,000 A stand-up desk. And thank you very much. I've received a ton of links from people 23 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:58,000 with all different kinds of products ranging from like $5,000 with electric motors 24 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,000 that automatically rise and lower the table to an IKEA solution which is only about $500, 25 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,000 which also by the way, I think that even has a motor for that money. 26 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 But of course, you have to wind the coil in the engine yourself. 27 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Where's the rimshot when you need it? 28 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,000 The power of your intellect. 29 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,000 So the format for today is laid back on the big ugly green thing. 30 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 I've got the Convair to my left. 31 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,000 I've got the microphone just flowing right over the armrest. 32 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,000 I'm using the crapplet to record. Of course that means we're using Casplaster 33 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:38,000 and yet a different config. Yesterday turns out I was recording everything in mono. 34 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 I need a better machine. That's what it is. 35 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 So once I get the desk done, then I'm going to get a machine 36 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,000 which will be dedicated to recording the daily source code 37 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 and I want Casplaster to be a part of the whole chain of events 38 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,000 and so now that I know how to do it, I just need a better sound card 39 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 than the one provided in the crapplet. But we've been through that before 40 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 and I haven't. 41 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Mashup of the day is a world premiere actually sent to me 42 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:10,000 by Adub from mashuptown.com 43 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Yeah man, I'm going to shut up. It's DJ Cheezy. 44 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,000 You get it? Mysterious tweet. 45 00:03:36,000 --> 00:06:56,250 [ Music ] 46 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Man, I don't know what kind of weather it is where you are 47 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 But this is the perfect song for a day like today 48 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 DJ Cheesy, mysterious tweet 49 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 You can find that at mashuptown.com 50 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Thank you, A-dub, for sending that along 51 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 He's been feeding me with great mashups recently 52 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Totally appreciate it 53 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Man, that makes me wanna go back to Jamaica 54 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Man, Patricia and I were just talking 55 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Oops 56 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Oops, see, that's something I promised myself 57 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,000 Not to have Skype open when... 58 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 When running Cast Blaster 59 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Ah, good, tomorrow Mike and I 60 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Cast Blaster, Mike and I have a conversation 61 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,000 With the Skype guys 62 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Hopefully we'll be able to integrate 63 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Skype recording into Cast Blaster 64 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 In a future version 65 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 And everyone's willing to make it work 66 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,000 So that's the good news 67 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Now it's up to us to fail 68 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 I think we'll do fine 69 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Anyway, I was saying 70 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Patricia and I were talking about Jamaica 71 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Just the other day 72 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Wouldn't it be great to go back there? 73 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Not right now actually 74 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Because now is probably the worst time in the world 75 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 But we've been to Jamaica 76 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,000 I don't know, maybe 15 times 77 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,000 And we haven't gone for maybe two years 78 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,000 And this year we're not going to Jamaica 79 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,000 We're gonna go to the States 80 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 So the plan is in August 81 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 To go first to New York 82 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Then maybe Las Vegas 83 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,000 We're thinking of a couple days in Vegas 84 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Then out west 85 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Hopefully to stop by Portland 86 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,000 So Patricia and Ken can catch up as well 87 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Then to San Francisco 88 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Neither Patricia Cristino San Francisco 89 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,000 And of course I'm gonna be there a lot 90 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000 And they're always welcome to come along 91 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 And I think they'll enjoy that 92 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 And I'm gonna drive up north 93 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Up the coast 94 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 And then eventually we'll fly back 95 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 So that's kind of the plan 96 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,000 For today though 97 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 I really just, it's so warm 98 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 As I said I already did some work 99 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 It's just it's too much 100 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 So I didn't have enough energy 101 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Really to go and look through promos 102 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 And stuff like that 103 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Of course the match up 104 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 And I got a pod safe music tune 105 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,000 I want to play for you 106 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 But there's such a huge amount of email 107 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 That I've been saving to discuss on the show 108 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Let's just run through the mailbox 109 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,000 I'm sitting here with a crap 110 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 But this is pretty cool 111 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Because now Casblast is running in the background 112 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 But everything's working I hope 113 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Let me just check 114 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Bring it to the front there 115 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Yeah everything's fine 116 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,000 So my shoulder and my left arm 117 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 I've been talking about that 118 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 You know I gotta bitch about it to somebody right 119 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,000 No one else here wants to hear about it anymore 120 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 The only real once in a while 121 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Just spasms you know 122 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,000 And so everything starts to hurt 123 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,000 I can kind of deal with that 124 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 But what really sucks 125 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Is it feels like my index finger 126 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 And the tip of my thumb 127 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 As if they're they fall in asleep 128 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Not completely I can still feel through it 129 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 You know it's like novocaine that's 130 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 That's wearing off 131 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 And everyone I talked to 132 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Says yeah you know it was a pinched nerve 133 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Or whatever it'll go away 134 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 And I'm just feeling pretty sorry for myself 135 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 And I got an email from 136 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,000 I think Steve Smetters 137 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,000 And it's really nice 138 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 He says I'll just read from this 139 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 I have a very blue collar aviation job 140 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 I fly an aerial survey aircraft 141 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Cessna Turbo 206 in Columbus Ohio 142 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Most of our flying occurs in the cold months 143 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Between November 1st and June 1st 144 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 When the leaves are off the trees 145 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Easier to make maps when you can see through the trees 146 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 7 to 9 hour days in the aircraft 147 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Wow 7 to 9 hour days in the aircraft 148 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Smashing through the turbulence 149 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Right because you have to stay low 150 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 He says we rarely get above it 151 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Has often given me the same numbness 152 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 And tingling not to mention soreness 153 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 That you have mentioned especially in the left arm 154 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Since I do not have attitude hold 155 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 On my autopilot yeah I don't have that in the 182 either 156 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 That's the that's the 157 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 The next upgrade I want to get when it's all slave 158 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 To the GPS 159 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,000 So anyway his left arm 160 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Is left to absorb most of the bumps 161 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Multiply this over the course of 20 years 162 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 I've been doing this type of flying 163 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 I'm 41 he says it sucks 164 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Okay and the only way he says 165 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 He's found to alleviate the pain is lifting weights 166 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Interesting because my I was told 167 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Specifically not to do that 168 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Maybe I'll wait another week before I 169 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Because I do like to work out now 170 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 I've been forced to the gym 171 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Steve thank you very much and 172 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 I guess that's it you know just a life 173 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Of yoke yankers that 174 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 That will live with numbness in our left 175 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Arms 176 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Let's see 177 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 I wanted to play this later on for you 178 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 I got an email I'll play this 179 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Near the end of the show Mark 180 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Kelso sent me an email 181 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 I said you have to listen to this 182 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 IT conversations podcast 183 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Of David Corsi you know David 184 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 I'll talk about David Corsi in a moment 185 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Let me get back to that let me see what the next email is 186 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Okay so that was 187 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 This is from art with the 188 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Peter Andre versus yeah whatever 189 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Surprise mystery tweet 190 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Dudley Beale 191 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 I'm a presenter on a hospital radio station 192 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Of course dear to my heart since that's how I started 193 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 You have a very captive audience I bet 194 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Based at the Royal National Orthopedic 195 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Hospital in Stanmore 196 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Radio Broccoli 197 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Broccoli 198 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 B-R-O-C-K-L-E-Y Broccoli 199 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Oh man 200 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Radio Broccoli but it sounds like 201 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Radio Broccoli doesn't it 202 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 There I present and produce a program 203 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Called the midweek pick and mix 204 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 And to be honest the voiceover that I'm using for the program 205 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Is getting a little old on not of the best audio quality 206 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Would it be possible to say 207 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 On the daily source code the following 208 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 So I used it in my program 209 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 You listen to the midweek pick and mix on radio brock 210 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Okay you know I'll even turn off 211 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 There for you okay here you go 212 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Get ready to snip this piece out there Dudley 213 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 You're listening to the midweek pick and mix 214 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 On radio broccoli 215 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Would you like some mayonnaise with your broccoli 216 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 What a great name for a radio station 217 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 At college we had K-I-T-B-W 218 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,000 No no I'm sorry 219 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 W-I-T-B that's what it was 220 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Which officially stood for 221 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 We're in the basement where the original studio was 222 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 But of course by the time I got there it was 223 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 We're into bong hits 224 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 See Polly Shore doing a podcast 225 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000 No we'll skip over that man 226 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 We work with Polly Shore at MTV 227 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 And he was oh man he was irritating 228 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 I thought there was a lot more here 229 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 OSX has an update 230 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 10.4 this is all technical stuff 231 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 I don't want to talk about that right now 232 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Wow okay well I guess 233 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 That was the email then I thought I had a lot more 234 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 No that's it 235 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Okay well good then we have 236 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,000 Enough 237 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,000 As said way too warm today 238 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,000 To really do a lot of preparation 239 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Why don't we do this 240 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 The David Corsi thing 241 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Let's just roll through that because this is so amazing 242 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 David Corsi is a columnist 243 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 And I really only started reading his stuff 244 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 But it was a while ago it must have been 245 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 I want to say 10 years ago 246 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 And he was one of the few people that would write about 247 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Mac stuff 248 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 I mean Windows there really was no Windows then 249 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 You know you had 250 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Windows 95 251 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 It kind of went a whole bunch of magazines 252 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Sprouted and he was around there that time too 253 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 But he's kind of an industry pundit 254 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Pundit, pundit, pundit 255 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 But I've never found him to be very 256 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Informative to me at least 257 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 But very opinionated 258 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 And 259 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 I don't know if 260 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 He's not like a guy that 261 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 The new David Corsi is out 262 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 I have to go read him 263 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 But he does have a wide 264 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Distribution network 265 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 And he was interviewed on 266 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 An IT Conversations 267 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Podcast 268 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 And 269 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 I couldn't even pull an excerpt from it 270 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Because some of the stuff he was saying 271 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Was just so amazing 272 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 I'll turn down the Convair 273 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Just a notch there 274 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 So it still stays cool and we can listen to this 275 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Together and I can leave the mic over 276 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 My name is Rob Greenlee and I appreciate you listening today 277 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 We are joined right now by David Corsi 278 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Who is an industry analyst and consultant 279 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 He is a former executive editor at ZDNet 280 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Anchor Desk 281 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 And a former editor published at PC Letter 282 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 And a former radio show host at CNET Radio 283 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 And is now a contributor 284 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 He's a former a lot of everything isn't he 285 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Published.com and he has spent two decades 286 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Writing about hardware, software 287 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Publications for business customers 288 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 He is also president of David Corsi Consulting 289 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Incorporated. David is going to talk 290 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Extensively about his background 291 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 In print journalism, radio broadcasting 292 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,000 And he also talks about some recent articles 293 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Expressing skepticism 294 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 About journalistic web logs 295 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 And the long-term growth of grassroots podcasting 296 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Okay so apparently he wrote some columns 297 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Which I have not read as I already pointed out 298 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,000 But let's just 299 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 I'm going to let this go along because 300 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Man he 301 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Think about maybe ten minutes 302 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 But I think well worth it and I'll jump into 303 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Comment once in a while but it's really 304 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Amazing the things that he has to say 305 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Particularly because I feel we have very similar 306 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Backgrounds. I've been in radio 307 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Since I was fifteen 308 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Been in mainstream media all of my adult life 309 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 He has different ideas 310 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Very much good to be here 311 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Why don't you tell us something about your background 312 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 In media and technology and 313 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 You've actually done a broadcast radio 314 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,000 I've been watching that radio for a few years 315 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Want to tell us kind of about your media background 316 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Well my background is basically 317 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Starting in radio 318 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 When I guess I was fifteen years old 319 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Which is quite a while ago now 320 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 In Dallas at a radio station 321 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 That doesn't exist anymore 322 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,000 At least the AM doesn't WRR 323 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 I stayed in broadcasting in the Dallas area 324 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 Doing news for 325 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 About I guess ten years 326 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 And slowly as radio 327 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Changed due to deregulation 328 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 News departments went away etc 329 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 I got into print 330 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 I was working at 331 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Suburban newspaper 332 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 At writing for USA Today 333 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 For several years 334 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Then in 1985 335 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Got into the computer trade 336 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Went to work for a publication 337 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Again no longer exists 338 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Called FIS week 339 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Published by CapCities out of New York 340 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Then went to Info World 341 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 And the rest is history 342 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Stuart Alsop asked me to take over 343 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,000 PC letter when he was 344 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Leading back to go on and do some other things 345 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 I basically become editor-in-chief 346 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Of the Info World 347 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 He's just going to go on and on a bit here 348 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 About everything he's done 349 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,000 We'll get into the meat of the conversation 350 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000 In a second though 351 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 They get dearly departed 352 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Everywhere he worked 353 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Is dead 354 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Everywhere I go doesn't work anymore 355 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 I spent three years 356 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 As you pointed out, three happy years 357 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 At CNET 358 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Left there while I was doing radio 359 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 And television and broadband 360 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 CNET has gone through some changes 361 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Getting rid of television and radio 362 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 I really should have queued some of this up 363 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000 I feel 364 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 Just turning down a little bit there 365 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Having lots of fun 366 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 It certainly sounds like you're staying busy 367 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 What is going on in the whole 368 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Sector of news 369 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 In relation to 370 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Technology right now 371 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 It seems like it's changing all 372 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Towards blogs and things like that 373 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 What's your perspective on how things are 374 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Evolving in that sector? 375 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 You say it's changing 376 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Towards blogs 377 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Maybe you're abating me just a bit 378 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000 Like blogs 379 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Almost as much as I like 380 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000 But actually 381 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Right now I already get it 382 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 He wrote a couple of articles that were 383 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 I guess anti-weblog 384 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Anti-podcasting 385 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 It's not really going to mean anything 386 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 And this is what 387 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 He's now garnering a lot of attention 388 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 And so he's loving it 389 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000 That by the way 390 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Is how it works 391 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Once you get the attention 392 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 You decide whether you want to go for it 393 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000 He's going for it with the negative stuff 394 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 If you're going to do it 395 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Essentially is a hobby 396 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,000 When I look at a blog 397 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 I'm a columnist 398 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 And it used to write 399 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 More of a bloggy thing 400 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Okay 401 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Bloggy thing 402 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 And I found that it took me just as long 403 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 To write a blog entry as it did 404 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 A column 405 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 And fewer people saw the blog entry 406 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Yeah, interesting 407 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000 So that was 408 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Rob Greenlee, what was that 409 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Interesting, come on man 410 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Slice him right there 411 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Well let me write columns instead 412 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000 But it can take 413 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000 By time you do research 414 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 And whatever most of the day to do a column 415 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Yeah 416 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 For people who 417 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 You know 418 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 It just seems like it's an awful lot of work 419 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 For something that isn't 420 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Going to be somebody's job 421 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Oh man 422 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 But this is like the oldest 423 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 Argument that I've heard 424 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 About weblogging 425 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 This is the oldest one 426 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 This is not even a new way to say weblogs are no good 427 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000 This is 428 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000 This is amazing to me 429 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000 That's why I wanted to share this with you 430 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Let's just listen to a little bit more 431 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Because if you think you can dig the hole any deeper 432 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Oh man, it goes all the way to China 433 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000 All the media 434 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000 They're all jumping on this bandwagon 435 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000 And offering blogs and those kind of things 436 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 And is it kind of pulling away from the 437 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Long form type of writing 438 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000 That's been going on for a long time 439 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 I guess blog proponents 440 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Would say so 441 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000 But I don't see it 442 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 I mean I think if you're involved in something 443 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 It looks a lot bigger and a lot more important 444 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Than it really is 445 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000 I don't think blogs are going to 446 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Oh, hugely change 447 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000 The way we do things 448 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000 Okay 449 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 That's a wager I'm willing to take 450 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 No problemo 451 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Of course they're changing the way we do 452 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 Or maybe he meant we as in 453 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 People who are paid 454 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 The limitations both of the medium 455 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 And of the people who created 456 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Yeah, I'm always a little concerned 457 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 And now by the way 458 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 I'm speaking in terms of 459 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Big national affairs 460 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Kinds of blogs 461 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 I'm not about somebody who is 462 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 Microsoft engineer writing about 463 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Microsoft stuff and sharing some of their experiences 464 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 These sorts of specialized 465 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 You know, sorts of blogs 466 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 But in terms of 467 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Being part of 468 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 The debate of major issues 469 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Blogs tend to be 470 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 By people who have an agenda 471 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000 That they want to push 472 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 And are read by people who want to see that agenda 473 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Who want to read about it 474 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 I wish Dave Weiner were here 475 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Because this is what he sometimes does 476 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000 On scripting news 477 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000 He pulls stuff apart 478 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 But this is so 479 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Oh man 480 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Professional writers 481 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Don't have an agenda 482 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Write to a certain audience 483 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Come on, David, please 484 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Circle is best I know 485 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Like Fox News, I guess 486 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Yeah, I guess people are going to enjoy doing it 487 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 But I think it's going to be a little bit like 488 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Early websites 489 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 In which the web happened 490 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 HTML, anyone can have a website 491 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 And then 492 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 It kind of falls off as people realize 493 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Well, not everyone 494 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Can do the arts and crafts 495 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Necessary to have an interesting website 496 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Not everyone has the amount of time 497 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 That it takes to maintain a website 498 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Now blogs are a solution 499 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 To that problem for lots of people 500 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Because it's a website that you can manage very easily 501 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 But that's still 502 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Content creation is still tough 503 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 It is hard work for people 504 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Certainly it seems like 505 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 What you're saying in reference to blogs 506 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Also applies to podcast 507 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 It's a very similar type of a 508 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Process that's going on online 509 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 I think that's fascinating when you extend it out 510 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 To blogs and if you're looking at content creation 511 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 With podcasting 512 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Looking at it from the perspective 513 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Of what we've seen happen with blogs 514 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 And is that a good 515 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 Way of looking at it 516 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 That what happened to blogs is probably 517 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 What's going to happen with podcasting as well 518 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Or is podcasting in your view different 519 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Ask one question 520 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 I think they are close enough to be treated the same 521 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Yeah, I think at the end of the day 522 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 There are going to be 523 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Just as Matt Drudge showed up 524 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000 There are going to be some people 525 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Who are going to create 526 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 I don't think I can handle any more of this 527 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 But it is so good 528 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000 There is so much more that follows this 529 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 You have to listen to this 530 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 You really have to listen to this interview 531 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 And 532 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 It's one total viewpoint 533 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 But I'm just amazed 534 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000 I was kind of amazed by this whole conversation 535 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 That Rob Greenley didn't really jump in 536 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 And defend any of this 537 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Or go against the grain 538 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000 It was just phenomenal to me 539 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 Anyway, let's 540 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Roll out some pod safe music that really kicks ass 541 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Okay, crowd surfing 542 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Is permitted by the way 543 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Transfer Romanics 544 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 How hazardous we are 545 00:24:03,750 --> 00:26:41,250 [ Music ] 546 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000 You are 547 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000 I would like to say that 548 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 I've been working on my podcast 549 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 I'm going to Skype with him 550 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 During the daily source code 551 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Some really exciting stuff to talk about 552 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Finally time for some damn announcements 553 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 The launch of the Podsafe Music Network 554 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Which brings podcasters 555 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 And podsafe artists together 556 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 And the listener of course benefits 557 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,960 names you know have worked on this. We've really been, yeah, been working very hard. I mean, 558 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:49,440 I haven't been working hard. And I'm just sitting here melting. But CC and Chris and Sue and well, 559 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,960 you're going to hear about a lot of these people tomorrow as we roll out. And it's obviously we're 560 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,320 doing this in beta so that we can work out all the bugs and the kinks. But I think you'll 561 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:07,360 like it. It's finally, it's you know, we're closing the gap on creating our own music industry 562 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,360 with podcasting as a big part of it. So tune in tomorrow. That'll be the Friday's edition of the 563 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:19,760 Daily Source Code. And I'm going to rev the Conner up to full speed and lay down a bit. 564 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,680 You know, now I'm tired. I feel like I've earned my keep for today. 565 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:32,560 Okay, DailySourceCode.com is where you can find the podcast feed. It's where you can find 566 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,720 new episode and the archives, all that moving over to new servers. I don't know if it's 567 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,000 going to happen over the weekend or beginning of next week, but it is happening. 568 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:49,040 And then we're going to fixcurry.com, which will also be moving over to a new server. And 569 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:57,040 then finally we'll be able to really get to work on iPodder.org. And we've got a big plan drawn up 570 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,920 for that, which of course I'll be talking about here on the source code. But first order of 571 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,320 business is to make it, you know, really be able to handle the loads. It is getting hit an awful 572 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:12,320 lot. And then hopefully we can get some new tools. Maybe Dave Weiner's OPML tool will be 573 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,320 ready by then we get them into the hands of the node managers and we'll be kicking ass. 574 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,640 If you want to send me a voice comment, feel free to do so, adamantcurry.com. 575 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:36,480 One more plea to the Google guys. Where's my Gmail infinity plus one? I'm now at 99% of 576 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,120 my two gigs. Please. I don't want to have to delete stuff. I don't want to set up forwards 577 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,480 other accounts. Please. Please. Please. I beg of you. 578 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:52,160 All right. Your promos are welcome. Submitted podshow.com, podsafe at podshow.com. 579 00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,400 For all of your pod save music and mashup at podshow.com for the mashups. I'll talk to you 580 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,400 tomorrow, y'all. Bye bye.