1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,140 Delta shared Charlie two two three good morning everybody. Welcome. It is Tuesday morning 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:18,920 The date is the 16th of August 2005. I'm in Berkeley, California. Hold on. I'm just gonna be repositioned. I'm microphone here for a second 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,920 and 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,920 I'm off 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,400 Into San Francisco, 10 minutes past eight and 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,880 The girls are still sleeping and 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,880 I am well clearly. I'm doing much better 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,920 But also the vacation is kind of coming to an end here. Hold on. I'm sure. I'll crash. I think 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,600 As Friday, we're planning to go back and of course 10 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:51,740 part of this vacation was supposed to be a working vacation and 11 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,120 That part started yesterday really 12 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,400 Pretty exciting 13 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,920 Yesterday was the first day in our office in San Francisco now. It's not our 14 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,040 The office that we intend to have for good 15 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,560 This is a temporary office, but really it was it was quite cool to have just 16 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:22,320 Everybody kind of show up all of a sudden. We have a number of folks from the East Coast 17 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:29,200 Chris McIntyre from podcast Ali got a couple of people from 18 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,640 We just check what I'm doing here hold on a second after the Niga okay 19 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,800 A couple of people from out here people from Los Angeles. So it was like there was like 20 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,240 Eight people in the office yesterday 21 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:48,640 In fact, we have an office just blew me away. It was a total trip 22 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,400 rolled up at about eight thirty in the morning and 23 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,120 There it was coffee 24 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,240 Computers folks doing stuff very very exciting 25 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,720 So today there's two things on the agenda 26 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:14,480 One kind of flows into the other the first one is or the 27 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,600 The most prevalent thing that I'm doing today is we have a an update to our board of directors 28 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,960 Which is you know perfect we're just getting started and 29 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Already we have a lot of 30 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,600 a lot of second 31 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,600 I'm not in a good place here with my car 32 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,520 We've got a lot of really really really cool things that are that are going on 33 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,180 I don't even know half of it because I've been so out of the loop. I feel really just 34 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,560 It's I think that's part of what I dealt what I dislike about vacation 35 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,520 It's being out of the loop on on anything really and not just 36 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:00,840 Having been on vacation, but really being completely tuned out because of this flu bug that we had 37 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,500 I feel like I've missed so much and then again 38 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:06,780 I was able to catch up with a lot of stuff 39 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Once we got into 40 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,600 Into the Claremont resort 41 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,640 I was able to you know catch up with a couple of shows. I listened to the most recent Gilmour gang 42 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,400 Last night 86 minutes. I think it's just a bit credible amount 43 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,000 But what's really cool about this is you know if you're a listen to the Gilmour gang 44 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,080 Then you know it's like a roundtable discussion and it usually lasts for about an hour 45 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,520 What's Steve Gilmour has been doing recently and I really like this and I hope that 46 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:48,740 By now the rest of the gang understands if that's happening is he's basically the minute everyone's on the phone 47 00:03:48,740 --> 00:03:51,200 You know the recording's already rolling and he just 48 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,400 Basically puts all that out unedited as far as I know it's unedited 49 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:05,160 And it's it's really what it's almost what the Gilmour gang used to be where people just bitching and moaning and talking about industry stuff 50 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,160 But really 51 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,360 You know much less held back for some reason 52 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,320 I'm not quite sure what it is about that, but it really really does work 53 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,400 And so they were waiting for Ron Ron Bloom to 54 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:29,200 To come on to the call so there must have been a good 20 or 25 minutes and then talk about all kinds of stuff scobal was on 55 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,520 But it's a very strong opinions about the pod show and serious 56 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,800 So you should definitely give that a listen 57 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:43,560 I'd say the I really like that those first 25 minutes because that was truly 58 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,680 People with their guard down and and it really 59 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,120 I don't think that any of the Gilmour gang members really listen to the show and I can't understand that 60 00:04:54,120 --> 00:05:00,240 You know if you've you've already lived through the hour and a half that the show was and you pretty much know everything 61 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,120 It was said you're not gonna go back and listen to it 62 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,680 To the podcast more than likely 63 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:12,720 But I still have the feeling that a number of the gang members don't really understand that that opening bit that that first part is 64 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,040 Also being podcast 65 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,040 Maybe it's better that way because I just love listening to that 66 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,120 a lot of talk about pod show 67 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:24,840 about the 68 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:30,200 The interest that we receive from the investment community and not just the investment community from you know 69 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:33,080 Client of Perkins and Sequoia capital and Ram Shuram 70 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,920 People that we aggressively went after 71 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,000 Because we felt that they would be the perfect team 72 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,320 Help us grow our vision of pod casting 73 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:52,200 Well, I'm a second now. I have to I don't want to mess this up. I don't have a my typical GPS 74 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,480 Or even a never-law's in fact this car that I'm driving is a 75 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:04,920 For tourists as an SE it has absolutely nothing it's white to make it even 76 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,560 Add insult to injury 77 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,720 As no frills and I actually I kind of like it, but 78 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,960 Because it has no GPS. I really have to pay attention 79 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Because you know, you know me jet boy 80 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,320 Without the GPS, I can't function anymore. Don't tell me there's gonna be a whole bunch of traffic this morning 81 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,320 That was not the agreement 82 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,480 Shoot 83 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,120 Okay, well, it's like we're already in some kind of traffic 84 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:38,600 So anyway, so that board update is today and 85 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:45,800 You know the update is great because there's lots of stuff and lots of ideas that we have and people that you know 86 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:51,720 We'd like to get in touch with which are and investors have all the inroads to 87 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,000 So I know that's a big big benefit and 88 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,480 Very exciting 89 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,480 To be moving in different circles these days got the apartment 90 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,400 Got all that squared away yesterday 91 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,960 Got a great apartment for one. I'm here in San Francisco which will be 92 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Quite a lot. I'm sure 93 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:21,240 And hopefully some of the stuff that we ordered online Patricia and I did a big order 94 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,280 I think it was a JC pennies or something we ordered you know like a bed and and tables and stuff 95 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Hopefully that's going to show up 96 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,800 Before we go back 97 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,680 Typical JC penny 98 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Yeah, your order is in transit. I guess we have to call someone over there and figure out what's going on 99 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,840 And today 100 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,320 Patricia and Christina and Ron's wife Marta are gonna go pick up some more stuff 101 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,640 Both for my apartment also for 102 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,960 For Ron and Marta's apartment because they have actually relocated here and 103 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,360 It's very foggy today 104 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,480 This is not what I had ordered. I told Patricia. I said it's so beautiful 105 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,360 You even have palm trees out here Northern California 106 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,000 Which is true, but man foggy and chili 107 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,520 So I can't wait to really get back into the full swing of doing 108 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,720 regular daily source code 109 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,200 Can understand that I have obviously been splitting up my time between 110 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:35,160 Well being sick first of all, but also you know being with the family you know doing stuff together 111 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,280 Which is really you know what you do what we do want to do our vacation 112 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,640 Despite that some work is slipping in here and there 113 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,720 And that does eat into basically all the time I spend at home on 114 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,360 Pre-producing the source code 115 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:57,720 You know, but also other stuff like the pod finder. There's a new pod finder that came out today. I hope on iTunes 116 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,680 Dave Fox 117 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:02,680 hosted it this week 118 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,880 I'd actually plan on doing that even though I had relinquished all of my 119 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Serious satellite pod show duties to other 120 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,640 podcasters 121 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,760 I was planning on doing the pod finder myself, but obviously it just didn't feel up to it 122 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,360 So Dave Fox who is he's the guy from the 123 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,600 He's the voice of pod casting it's Adam Curry 124 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,560 So I'm very curious to see how that turned out 125 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,280 So I've really cutting all at that time 126 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,000 And obviously five in the west. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna take here 127 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Yesterday it was much faster. Why is it so slow? There isn't an accident or something 128 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,800 I have no idea really what the traffic patterns are in 129 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:58,680 San Francisco how many people live in San Francisco is it? I mean it certainly seems like a really big city when you look at it 130 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,720 but 131 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,720 No, it's a traffic okay. Let's see 132 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,520 It's traffic's moving 133 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,480 But I also want to get back to you know 134 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Back to just into the fray of 135 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,120 Listening to what everyone's doing again and part of that is you really do need bandwidth 136 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,440 I found that still lots of hotel 137 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,160 connectivity is not really 138 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,400 Really good enough for the you know the type of subscription list that I have 139 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,680 And I'm running iTunes almost exclusively now for of the pod cast 140 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:38,680 I gotta say I'm pretty happy with it 141 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,000 But when you get into a a lower bandwidth situation 142 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,520 You do get broken download and you know that's really where 143 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,520 You know some of the some of the stuff starts yeah, I see buddy some of the stuff starts the fall apart 144 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,440 Bear with me here for a second 145 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Trying to think if 146 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:13,560 I'm gonna crash into that mini van and I think if there's anything else it's really big that's that's been happening 147 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,680 I guess the the podcast awards I saw that I I want a podcast award for 148 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,480 Best produced podcast 149 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:26,600 Well, thank you very much. I presume that that is voted on by 150 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,720 By the audience 151 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Was there ceremony or was there some kind of 152 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:39,560 Show or did just the announcements just kind of you know just appear. I was wondering about that 153 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,480 I like award I like awards 154 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,960 I like receiving awards rarely ever received an award for anything 155 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,240 But I do like it to 156 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,600 To be a ceremony number the wired rave awards 157 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,120 When I was up for was it's a 158 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,400 New technology or something and it went to see well 159 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:10,920 I forget it else was in the category with me. I do know that Mark think the CEO from blog lines 160 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,080 He won that it it was like there was no ceremony 161 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:21,800 Yeah, you you walked in and there was a like a PowerPoint switching through slides of the nominees and the winners 162 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,440 I like a ceremony man. That's you really need to have if you're gonna do it awards 163 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,800 Anything you got him you gotta go all the way 164 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,520 So maybe there's something planned for this podcast expo which uh, what is it now? 165 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,160 They can't be that far away maybe a month or two months away 166 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,120 So now we're coming up to the toll 167 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,680 This is kind of ziplong now. I like that 168 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,200 I'm not quite sure what this toll is for well obviously for some use of some 169 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,920 Road here. I'm just trying to think what the 170 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,360 Is it a 171 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,440 Wonder him all up 172 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,480 Get my cash here 173 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,960 There we go 174 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,680 Yeah, I see this is nice this is what New York traffic should be like 175 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,520 Beautiful 176 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,040 Yeah, I gotta have my tunes pump and early in the morning 177 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,720 Man my license plate is resonating with that guy's base 178 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,640 Good morning. Thank you. All right 179 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,320 So we're doing well then 180 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,760 Right so Friday we'll be gone back 181 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,960 Straight from San Francisco to London and I think the in-laws who've been staying at the house 182 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:02,280 Are ready to go home themselves. I think they're they're bored 183 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,760 It was probably stay a couple more days. I got a call-up wing command to William because of course 184 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:15,080 We flew them over on the on the 182 so I want to fly him back on the 182 and if I can 185 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,240 Work in a couple more hours of flying myself that'll be great 186 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:26,200 It's time once again. You know by the way the Carpool tunnel syndrome whatever it's getting better 187 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,440 It really is this still 188 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:38,200 In my left index finger is still a little little spots of numbness and and my my thumb is almost completely better 189 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,920 And that's I guess really just 190 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,160 Been through not 191 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Yankees know yolks and just taking it easy so I'll be curious to see what happens when 192 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,440 When I go flying for a couple hours again see it if it well 193 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,160 I'm sure I'll feel it again. I'm sure some of it will come back, but hopefully progressively over time 194 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,560 You know just get better 195 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Because I saw was it James Woods was on 196 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,960 I think it was on Leno or on Letterman and 197 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,320 He had something very similar 198 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,320 Where you know, so what happened with me is it was through the Yogiaki on the plane 199 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,200 While flying for that week and then of course 200 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:24,280 I fell asleep on my hand in the airplane for several hours not the one that I was flying but on the way to Miami 201 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:31,640 And what he had done is he had left his his four arms in one almost one position during a poker game 202 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,560 For I think you're saying 46 hours or something like that and he actually had to have his nerve 203 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,200 Cut out and reposition 204 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:46,360 Because of I guess the you know the pain and whatever the numbness, but his nerve was completely shot 205 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:52,680 And and I've heard lots of other people saying that you know eventually the only way you can solve this problem is through 206 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,240 An operation like now 207 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:02,120 First of all, I don't want to believe that second of all. I don't believe it. So it does seem to be getting much much better 208 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,160 Real happy about that now we're on the Bay Bridge 209 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,680 on the upper deck 210 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,040 which 211 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,040 This bridge has one way decks only so the 212 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:22,440 upper deck goes two surfaces go and the lower deck goes away from it and I can barely see it 213 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:28,040 It's all I can see the second portion of the bridge past what is it was at 214 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,280 Yerba Boina and Paradise Island kind of halfway through this bridge 215 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,480 It's completely in the clouds 216 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,880 That would be the foggy clouds 217 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,880 So it's I guess it's a very typical San Francisco morning 218 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:48,280 Then I don't know I'm gonna learn a lot more about it as I and now a new dweller of this city which I am liking very much 219 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,360 It seems like a real easy city to get around in 220 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,840 And just I don't know it's it seems convenient it seems pretty laid back 221 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,880 And it's pretty so I'm looking forward to being here a lot 222 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,120 I'm also looking forward to bringing my girls back with me 223 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:16,120 When when we have the apartments, I'll have our own place so they can have more of a base hang out 224 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:23,160 And get to know a little bit more about what's going on in the city itself because now it's you know where we're outside 225 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,920 And 226 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:37,080 So I'll probably do another quick update before we head back on Friday 227 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,360 Certainly if anything you know really cool happens 228 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,920 It seems like podcasting is just growing more every day 229 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,000 There's a I think I've said this before there's a whole new round of 230 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:52,920 I've pressed that is coming and that's because 231 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:58,440 It's still here you know podcasting is not a flash in the pan it hasn't gone away overnight 232 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,720 Publications are coming back interested in 233 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:13,160 Commercialization of podcasting interested in the glaring differences but it in a nice way between 234 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,840 Indie podcasters and mainstream podcasts 235 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,080 So there's there's plenty of opportunity for us to bring in more listeners 236 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,400 For more people to be exposed. I don't think there's a day that doesn't go by 237 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,960 That someone doesn't say send me an email saying hey, you know, I just found about this podcasting stuff 238 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,360 Usually it's through iTunes 239 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:41,320 How people tune into it so I think that we're 240 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:49,960 We're on a very very good track at this moment and you know as we start to wind down the summer 241 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,600 I think we're gonna see a lot of things kick up 242 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Yeah 243 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,600 Oh, so I might have been my wife oops, well, I just missed it. Okay, so 244 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,120 I'm very bullish about everything that's going on and 245 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,760 Prepared to work very hard to see what we could take this 246 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:21,960 So as I have just about to take the free month street exit 247 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,840 We've been talking for about 20 minutes and I'll be picking up 248 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,160 Ron and Brian as we have a meeting in 930 in 249 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,120 Palo Alto 250 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:39,960 That's not a board update, but that's with the technology company which of course is why we're out here because if there's anything we're light on 251 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,200 You know, we know a lot about media. We don't know everything there is to know about 252 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Technology and this is definitely the part of the world to come and get that so I'm gonna learn some more things today 253 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,400 And look forward to talking to you very soon as I said maybe 254 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:03,720 Before we go back if not certainly on Monday as we get back into swing of 255 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,000 A brand new source code so take care y'all and I'll talk to you soon bye bye