1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Delta Shara Charley 2, 4, 3. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:20,000 And now, coming to you from high-o-top podshow headquarters in beautiful Newark, Ohio, home of the world's largest basket. 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Here at home, hey! 4 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 6 million dollars worth of your place wrapped in my ass. 5 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Transmitters? 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,000 In the next generation radio content in my ears. 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000 We don't need no sticky and crispy. 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 I like to think I'm flying you to the future. 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Fantastic! 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,000 It's Adam Curry. 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 And it is. 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,000 What is it? 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000 It's Wednesday, September 21st, good morning. 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 How are you? 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,000 How are you? 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Coming to you directs from Northern California, where it is foggy. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,000 It is German. 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Very, very foggy. 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 It's your daily source code from Curry Condo. 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 I can barely see the marina today. 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,000 It's chilly, but I'm back home kind of. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 How are you? 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,000 You know, that home, of course, is a very relative statement. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 This is home for when I'm out on the west coast. 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,000 But it's, as was Ron's wife, Martessa. 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Yes, home is where the heart is. 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Well, it changes with the time zones. 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Back from Chicago, had a lightning round trip to Chicago. 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 We'll talk about that a little bit today. 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 And it's early. 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 It's early for me to do a source code. 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,000 It's a five past nine, but we've discussed this, right? 33 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:50,000 I feel so behind the eight ball on the west coast. 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:59,000 So the plan is on days where on the days that I actually am physically able to record a source code. 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 I guess I'm just going to have to do it in the morning. 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 So I haven't had breakfast yet. 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:09,000 I got up at seven, went through the email, which by the way, this is how this is how bad I have. 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,000 If now resorted to, basically waking up in the morning and going, oh, yeah, okay. 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Let me just check the blackberry for the email. 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 I sit there and bed. 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Which is in some ways very efficient. 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 It's kind of free to. 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Scary. 44 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Alright, to get into the mood and get everybody ready. 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Well, I put the coffee maker on. 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Ada found another mashup for me, which is just freaking awesome. 47 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,000 I love this one. 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 It's as he said himself in the email, 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,000 there's just no way that these two songs should actually be fitting together. 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,000 You like it? 51 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Should I stay or should I fucking? 52 00:02:46,250 --> 00:05:18,750 [ Music ] 53 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:26,000 That's good before breakfast, should I stay or should I book gay right here on the daily source code? 54 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,000 You know this feels so much like the old days when I was doing pirate radio 55 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Because what I've gotten into at the cottage because she's we were back for like what I was back in the UK for almost a month 56 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Which is pretty much a record for me 57 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:46,000 You know I resorted into making beautiful outlines and getting everything all set up 58 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,000 And then you really do all the show prep before recording the show which is great because you're so organized 59 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,000 But it does miss kind of a certain element that we used to have at the pirate radio stations 60 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:03,000 We basically walk in you know five minutes before your shift as we called it and the previous guy was 61 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,000 You know there was spinning his last records or whatever 62 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,000 You might need even been packing up his stuff and getting ready to leave and just put the last record on 63 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Assuming that you'd be in there on time right 64 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:19,000 And then you'd dive into the record library which in the case of the biggest station biggest pirate radio station 65 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 I've worked at was kind of like a closet 66 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:27,000 And sometimes there would be two or three people in the closet doing other things than checking out our records 67 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,000 And this is oh man, I got an inch under my 68 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Oh, I'm wearing my 69 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 My sneakers 70 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Oh, man, oh don't you hate it when you have an inch underneath your foot and you 71 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Oh, man, I couldn't get to it 72 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Oh, that's nice 73 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Anyway, so you just grab like you kind of know what your first record was going to be like, oh, I want to play that this is going to be my first record 74 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Which in my cases usually the mashup of the day if we have a good one 75 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,000 And then you just kind of free wheel it, you know, you play whatever comes and whatever feels right 76 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,000 And so I'm doing a little bit of that and it's really I just I don't have the energy 77 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 I'm wanting to to really go through everything meticulously 78 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,000 So I guess what I'm going to have to do is I'm going to have to find someone to help me out to create 79 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:16,000 To show notes post the show which is complicated because it has to be someone who's available 24 hours 80 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:22,000 So the minute I'm done with the show, I said listen to the show and write down the show notes and here's the information that I got 81 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 So I don't have to figure that one out 82 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,000 In Chicago we 83 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 We present it actually have a picture is great 84 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,000 It was Ron and I do this awesome show if I if I can say so myself 85 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Where we have I bring the workstation we've got two computers everything's hooked together 86 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,000 We're both mic we basically do a podcast and and we talk about 87 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Pod show and pod casting and opportunities in the pod safe music network and and how we'd like 88 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Advertisers to think about new ways of advertising and kind of break the mold of the 60 second spot 89 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 It's going to be a while you know there 90 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Still pretty traditional in many ways and lots of these advertisers are very excited 91 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,000 By the way, I've told you just before they're so excited because it's so hard for them to reach their audience 92 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Because well shit, we're all listening to MP3 players and iTunes, you know, so our iPods 93 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:18,000 There it is so the reason I brought that up is because this was the agency that handles the senseo account 94 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:25,000 And we talked about it in depth, but there was like I didn't get all the senseo love I was expecting 95 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,000 I was like okay, and here's the golden senseo machine 96 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:35,000 So oops, hold on I got to do the milk froth hold on don't don't go away bear with me. We've done this before 97 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,000 So the coffee's done now we switch the knob and 98 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Whoo 99 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 We've got a lot of steam today 100 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Do in my bird you'll think milk again come on straw rock 101 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Somehow frothing in plastic cup just doesn't work as well as in a crockery 102 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Okay, so we kind of 103 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,000 I was rather disappointed, hold on let me just get this ready and when we continue 104 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 I got lots of cool stuff to talk about 105 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 There we go 106 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Oh yeah, this is coffee 107 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 It's the rocket fuel of the industry 108 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Okay, so 109 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Let me go my mic up again there 110 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Despite that we had we had a great meeting 111 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,000 And it was good to be in Chicago I had been in Chicago for 112 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,000 I'm gonna say 10 or 11 years 113 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,000 And I'm amazed at how beautiful the city is 114 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,000 I remember going there before and thinking wow what a beautiful city 115 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,000 There's lots of new buildings and the skyline we came in 116 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Was it Monday evening around a 930 10 o'clock from the airport 117 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,000 It was just so beautiful the skyline was phenomenal 118 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 And yeah, it's just 119 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Actually Ron had lived there before 120 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,000 It was one of his previous lives and he said you know the difference between New York 121 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,000 I say this is so nice like every sidewalk is almost like a promenade 122 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,000 And so yeah the big difference between New York and Chicago is the concept of 123 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Alice because in Chicago all the trash 124 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Goes out in the back alley instead of on the on the front sidewalk 125 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 And that really ended boy doesn't make a difference 126 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,000 So as I said it's like a promenade the sidewalks are clean 127 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Yeah, it was just it was just really really nice 128 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 So got back late last night 129 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,000 It's you know Chicago is just a little bit too far from San Francisco 130 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,000 You might as well go all the way to New York you know 131 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,000 It's maybe it's just an hour an hour further flight 132 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,000 So let's excuse me. Okay, we'll do this and say a plug for that burp 133 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,000 And then I got in last night 134 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Kind of you know through everything down suitcase down 135 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 But did crack open the laptop and I think I told you that 136 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Christina had been doing something with Martina 137 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Martina is Michael Butler's daughter 138 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,000 And she has her own podcast called Emo Girl Talk 139 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,000 And I'd wanted to get this a couple days ago because the show was already out 140 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,000 But I guess you put it on a different server 141 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 And of course it ran out of bandwidth within three seconds 142 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 It's Emo Girl Talk dot com is where you can find the show 143 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,000 And I told Christina I said you know tell Martina to put this on the pod 144 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Show server so that you guys have enough bandwidth and you don't run out 145 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,000 And I listened to the to the show last night 146 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 I want to share you know I'll play a little bit of it for you 147 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,000 And I was you know you think you know everything that your kids are into 148 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Right and what they're talking about and what they're listening to 149 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 And boy did I get an education 150 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 So yeah that was panic at the discount 151 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 So Christina 152 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,000 What kind of music do you like 153 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Well I of course like Emo and stuff 154 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 I like follow up boy as I like dying 155 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 But for my valentine bright eyes 156 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Taking Max Sunday 157 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,000 James and Parker which by the way a really good band 158 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,000 If you haven't heard of them check them out 159 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,000 www.jamisonparker.com 160 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 And James and Comington's really hot 161 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,000 So yeah check out that band 162 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Whoa 163 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,000 She just mentioned five bands I've never heard of before in my life 164 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,000 And I was like 165 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Huh 166 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,000 When I get back to the London to the cottage 167 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 I got to get an education in this stuff man 168 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 She's listening to stuff 169 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 I have no idea I've never heard of when I'm very curious 170 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 That's heard 171 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,000 I also like 172 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Just basically some rock and some Emo just so much stuff 173 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 But you know when you don't feel the Emo mood 174 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Some pop music like Gwen Stefani 175 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Yeah 176 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Pop is our guilty pleasure 177 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Me and Christina 178 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Yeah 179 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Yeah we're poser so 180 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Send us some hate mail 181 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Christina and I have 182 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Long time ago we came to the conclusion 183 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,000 That we were the same person 184 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 We have the same pass 185 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 When we were about like 12 186 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,000 We thought we were really punk 187 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,000 And we liked our little bit 188 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 We thought we were out of the beam too 189 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,000 We had the ties going on 190 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 We're secretly a double person 191 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 We're Tina to the power of two 192 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 And so if you know we're like better than Paris 193 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 The power of two 194 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000 We're taking over 195 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Okay 196 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Emo girl talk dot com 197 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Fantastic show 198 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Some great music on there as well 199 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Just stuff that I've never heard of before 200 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 So this is kicking me in the ass 201 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 You know like I know what the hell is going on 202 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 First of all I don't know what the hell my daughter's listening to 203 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 That would be one 204 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,000 I never hear the you know she's she's got the iPod on 205 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 So of course you don't hear what she's listening to 206 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Or you know 207 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 God knows but I am certainly missing out on some tunes 208 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,000 So something a little a little note there to self 209 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Now what I've told you that 210 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 I've been using the blackberry 211 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Yes, it's true 212 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,000 It is a crackberry 213 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,000 It is freaking addictive 214 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 The whole concept of push email 215 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Which means that you basically you're connected full time 216 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 To the network and when an email comes in 217 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 It shows up literally 218 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 Seconds if not the second later on the blackberry 219 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,000 The keyboard is nice the layout is really good 220 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Once you have this got they've got lots of keyboard shortcuts 221 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Particularly in in the in the message system 222 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,000 So for email works very much like Gmail actually 223 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 With the J in the K keys for 224 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Conversations and threads and 225 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,000 I've I've certainly berated friends and colleagues over and over again 226 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,000 For the use of blackberries but I understand it now 227 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 It really is true 228 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 I miss the I miss the camera 229 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 That I have I miss 230 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 I miss certain elements of the MDA 231 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Which of course I carry with me right? 232 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 I have that in my bag as a backup 233 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 And nothing can replace 234 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,000 The beauty of the GPS that runs on the MDA and all that stuff 235 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 But just for and also 236 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 It has a real sturdy feel 237 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 You know it's like you could drive your car over this 238 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 No blackberry is still good 239 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 Maybe a little bit scratched 240 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,000 And you you can drop it and the cover may pop off 241 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,000 But that's about it. It feels good it slips into the pocket 242 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Nicely very impressed very impressed 243 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 But also they've been 244 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 They've been making these for like 10 years 245 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,000 So you got to figure that once the executives got hold of it and they started 246 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Provided that I think that this device really was 247 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Built based on user feedback 248 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 You know say hey if only could do this boom 249 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,000 There's that feature you know everything that I think would be a perfect feature 250 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Find it and it's in there and 251 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 And the battery life is also 252 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 More than more than sufficient 253 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Okay so 254 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Of course what I don't have is 255 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,000 The ease of Gmail's labels 256 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 And I know that there's a Gmail mobile application 257 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,000 But it's no good 258 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,000 If it's not push email then it cannot compete no matter what 259 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 I'd rather deal with 260 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Searching stuff out later than you know 261 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Then having to log in and wait because it just takes time 262 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 You know just trying to get your email 263 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 You spend an average of 264 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,000 8 or 9 minutes just getting the email and waiting for pages to load 265 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Whereas when everything's on the blackberry goes pretty fast 266 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,000 So I don't have the luxury of being able to tag something as you know for the daily source code 267 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,000 So basically I'm saving messages 268 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,000 That I think are going to be relevant for the show 269 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 I'm going to be relevant for the show 270 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,000 And I'm trying to navigate as we speak 271 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,000 Because there's lots of lots of little things that people have been sending me 272 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Hold on a second 273 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Lots of schedules 274 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Okay 275 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Lots of senseo stuff in here, lots of sound 276 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 So this is a good one Samuel Fineberg said 277 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 You know listen to your daily source code 278 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 Heard you were hanging a mirror in your condo 279 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 I'm not sure if you thought about it 280 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 But usually I use earthquake hangers 281 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Especially when I hang anything heavy or anything 282 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 That hangs over a place where people sit or sleep 283 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 And he has a link to 284 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 To the ones that he uses 285 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 That's a very good point I hadn't thought about that 286 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 And I think that 287 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Well I really don't know 288 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 I mean I hung up this mirror and I think 289 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,000 The the wall fasteners that I use 290 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 I mean they're not going to come out of the wall anytime soon 291 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 But then again I've never been in earthquake and California 292 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 So I have no idea 293 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 If that you know how severe that can be 294 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,000 But that's it. Thank you very much at a very very good point 295 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Um 296 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Lots of people inviting me to drop by in Chicago 297 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Which I'm in 298 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,000 You know when we do these trips it's just no way I have time to 299 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Pretty tightly scheduled because that's just so much to do 300 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Here in San Francisco that we don't want to 301 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,000 You know we just don't want to 302 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Hang around too long and you know 303 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Hopefully in the future there will be more time as 304 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 As I move away a little bit more from the selling 305 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,000 And talking to advertisers into the pure production 306 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 And we get some more infrastructure in the production set up 307 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 And we'll have time to do some of that 308 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 What I did see as I 309 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,000 As I woke up this morning is there is an update for iTunes 310 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Yes five dot o dot one has been released 311 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,000 And haven't been 312 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Been slamming anyone too hard 313 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,000 But I've had some major problems with with iTunes since the 5.0 upgrade 314 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 And these are the same problems lots of 315 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 But predominantly macusers have seen 316 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Is that you lose all of your podcast subscriptions 317 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 And only you have to go resubscribed to stuff 318 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,000 And I think that the engineers that Apple 319 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Or pretty aware that there were some problems 320 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,000 So it's funny the way they can you have in the software update panel 321 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,000 It describes what the update is. I haven't installed it yet 322 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,000 It has iTunes 5 features a new and even more powerful instance search 323 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Including the new search bar which helps you find exactly what you're looking for in iTunes 324 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Or from among 2 million songs on the music store 325 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Folders for organizing playlist and new parental controls 326 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 From music music sharing and podcasts 327 00:18:54,000 --> 00:19:00,000 And here comes iTunes 5 dot o dot one features several stability improvements 328 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Over iTunes 5 so good deal guys 329 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,000 I'm sure you can stomp on a couple of those buggies and I will definitely 330 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Report back on that after I've installed it later today 331 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 This week on the squad cast 332 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Two weeks ago we spoke with you about 333 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Hooking up the iPod 334 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 My brother-in-law and I tried to do it tonight 335 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 We tried to do the old USB 336 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Securities and you still didn't get it 337 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:28,000 What what what is your brother? What is his occupation? Why are you guys having so much difficulty here? 338 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 He's a florist 339 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Who else makes color arrangements to subject of the five-minute diatribe and otherwise 340 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Handedly run podcast 341 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 There comes a sign 342 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Nobody came to my defense here 343 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 We all got really quiet after that 344 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 I just sit down at the front myself 345 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Patience 346 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Yeah, they're hot. I told you I dated ones 347 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000 No, no, no 348 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 No, we were talking about not calling them orientals 349 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,000 You know that can hard on with a person attached to it 350 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000 Squad cast 351 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,000 Squad cast 352 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Gmail dot com squad cast 353 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Squad cast 354 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 dot com dot com 355 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Hot chill 356 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Content that will make you walk the dog and kiss your mother 357 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Are you addicted to race? 358 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 Hi, I'm Jan Chow 359 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000 And I'm Carmen Vancouver of 360 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000 And we're co-hosts of addicted to race 361 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:34,000 A podcast about America's obsession with race with a specific focus on mixed race identity 362 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 And interracial relationships 363 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Check us out at www.addictedtorac.com 364 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000 But then on the other end of the spectrum 365 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000 It seems like there are other people taking these tests 366 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Hoping to discover some kind of quote unquote 367 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Ethnic background 368 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,000 Because they think that it will bring my flavor to their lives 369 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Totally 370 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,000 But really this whole phenomenon of DNA tests is ridiculous 371 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Apart from the fact that this scientific basis for these tests is very shaky 372 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 More on that in a minute 373 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,000 It's this whole realization thing that annoys me so much 374 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 We always hear stories of people taking these tests 375 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,000 And there are results that they're supposedly like 6% 376 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Sub-Saharan Africa 377 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,000 And they think it explains all these things in their life 378 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Like 379 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Oh no wonder I was so into that Harlan Renaissance literature class 380 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 And politics 381 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,000 Or 382 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Oh no wonder it helps such big lips 383 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Or 384 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Oh no wonder I've always been such a great dancer 385 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 And if you're feeling a little offended right now 386 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 By what I just said you should 387 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Because that is the point 388 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,000 These so-called realizations that people are trying to tie back 389 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 To their supposed black ancestry 390 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,000 But pretty much always based on the worst racist stereotypes 391 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Stuff like all black people have written 392 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Remember that's injected two days 393 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,000 At www.andictedterraise.com 394 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000 So this promo comes at a very appropriate time 395 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Because we have something to talk about 396 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Regarding race and racism 397 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Now I am not a racist 398 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,000 I am also not politically correct 399 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 As you know if you listen to the daily source code 400 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 So I call it as I see it 401 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,000 But my parents installed the proper version of software in my brain 402 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,000 And I grew up in the Netherlands 403 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Where a country where two million Jews were annihilated 404 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Ship often trains to concentration camps by Nazis 405 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:44,000 I went to a very mixed race college 406 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Not for a long time three months 407 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 But I was there my roommate Tyree 408 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 From Trenton New Jersey was black 409 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 I actually pledged 410 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Kappa fraternity 411 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Which is kind of funny 412 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000 I was the shadow 413 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 And I just I see no color 414 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000 I really don't 415 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000 But if I see someone who's 416 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 As we would say African-American 417 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 He's black 418 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000 You're yellow you're red whatever the fuck 419 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 We're all red on the inside 420 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Um 421 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 So for me there's uh 422 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 I am completely color blind 423 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 But you see it you call it 424 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,000 So that's not really what I'm what I want to talk about 425 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 We have an issue and this is a community issue 426 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 And I want to discuss this with the community 427 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000 IndiePotter.org as you know 428 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Is a directory 429 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,000 That although we as in podshow operate it 430 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000 All of the nodes are maintained 431 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Actually the nodes the files themselves are hosted on servers maintained by the node managers 432 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 So the content of that I'm basically linking to these nodes 433 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,000 If you look at you know it looks like it's all in one place 434 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Which of course is the point right that's that's the beauty of these OPML distributed directories 435 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,000 And which means that a node can be added or dropped whenever you want 436 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,000 What I can't do is I can't manage what's in the node 437 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Nor do I want to because then you run into huge problems 438 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Basically doing directory management and you need a big staff 439 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,000 We have about a hundred volunteers maintaining these nodes now 440 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Which is the only way it works 441 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Um and usually 442 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,000 When we have some kind of conflict as an easy way to resolve it 443 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000 The conflicts usually are I can't get into the category 444 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000 The node manager isn't responsive 445 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Or 446 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000 People say I don't feel like maintaining it anymore 447 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Can you find someone to take over the node for me 448 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,000 And that's really it doesn't happen very often 449 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000 But now I got an email from 450 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 The podcast shuffle 451 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,000 And he says look I don't think that you should be linking to 452 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,000 This racist podcast and it took me a little while 453 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000 To understand what exactly was going on 454 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,000 But finally I tracked it all down in the 455 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Politics node which is maintained by guy named Mike Murray 456 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,000 There is a link to the Goi Fire podcast 457 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,000 And that is and I'd listen to it last night 458 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Without a doubt 459 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Um a hate based podcast 460 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,000 So you know personally I don't mind if you call me white honky 461 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000 You know whatever 462 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:25,000 But if you say I should die or I don't deserve to be a member of society 463 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Then I do have a problem with it 464 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Then of course on the other end you have free speech 465 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:39,000 So if I were maintaining a node I would not put this this type of podcast in the node 466 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,000 By the way a daily source code is linked in that category as well 467 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000 As a political podcast so I don't entirely agree with that 468 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000 I mean everyone has some kind of political statement sometime 469 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,000 But this show is far from about politics 470 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,000 So now the approach that the podcast shuffle made in email 471 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,000 I didn't like because it was basically saying hey 472 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,000 You know if you don't remove that I'm going to call you out 473 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000 And I don't think you'd like that if people knew that you were promoting hate 474 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 And I'm like whoa whoa whoa whoa 475 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,000 Back up that is not the way to approach this problem 476 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,000 So that's really irrelevant I just want to get that out there 477 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000 So I listen to the podcast 478 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,000 And it is something I personally do not want to be associated with but I'm not 479 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Indirectly of course we are because indie potter links to this OPML node 480 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Which in turn has a link to this podcast 481 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:43,000 So I emailed Mike Mike Murray and said you know dude what's your take on this 482 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:49,000 And actually let me just read the email because I really liked the way he responded 483 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Even though I may not agree with his viewpoint he said 484 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Adam was hoping that situations like this could be avoided when I decided to maintain the politics 485 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,000 node I knew that this would be the node that would have the most potential for controversy 486 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000 I also thought that it was important that the right to free speech 487 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,000 No matter how offensive some may find it should be given a high priority now 488 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,000 I of course am so this is me Adam speaking I am of course someone who 489 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Finds free speech extremely important 490 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000 So Mike goes on as to whether that show belongs in the politics node 491 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,000 I think that I question whether it belongs in the in the politics node 492 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Because I didn't hear him talking about politics I heard a lot of hate 493 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Hate talk 494 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,000 He says I think that most people would think of white nationalism as a political movement 495 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Politics is a pretty broad category for example socialism 496 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Though commonly thought of as a political system is really an economic system 497 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000 But most would agree that a socialist podcast belongs in the politics node 498 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000 I don't want to get into a battle over semantics 499 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,000 But I want you to understand the way I view this node so that I understand 500 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Here's the part that I think is extremely grown up that Mike wrote 501 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000 If you feel that this show should not be in the directory 502 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000 I would ask that you remove me as the maintainer of the node 503 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,000 I don't ask this out of anger or hard feelings 504 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,000 I feel very strongly about free speech and don't want to have to deal with removing feeds when people don't like the content 505 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Let me know if you need the latest copy of the node and I will send it to you 506 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,000 So again that was a extra that's the way this is supposed to work 507 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:23,000 But now my question to you is where how do we do this? 508 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 How do we draw the line? 509 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,000 I know that personally we can do whatever we want 510 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,000 We could basically get a copy of the politics node from Mike 511 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,000 And we could drop that particular link and maintain it 512 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,000 I could maintain it or hand it off to someone else 513 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,000 But I don't want to. I don't know. I want this to be resolved 514 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,000 Or I want us to have some kind of thoughts about how we deal with these things 515 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,000 And you know at what point? 516 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Where is the where do you draw the line with free speech? 517 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Is there a legal definition? Are there legal boundaries? 518 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000 I'm not a lawyer obviously. 519 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Is there a line that could be drawn in the sand where something is just illegal? 520 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000 I mean if it's clear that if there was a podcast about 521 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 And of course everyone used the same for an example 522 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,000 If there was a podcast about pedophilia 523 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,000 It would be removed everyone would say yes of course 524 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Because that's basically harmful to children 525 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,000 But I think that all people are basically children 526 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000 And any type of hate 527 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Directed towards anybody is wrong 528 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 But I would like your feedback on this 529 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,000 I would like some suggestions ideas 530 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Clearly there's no conflict here because Michael is willing to do whatever 531 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000 And go with whatever flow and I really really appreciate that 532 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000 But let's and don't just fire off an email 533 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,000 You know do your research listen to listen to that show 534 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:57,000 And and help me out here because I definitely need a little bit of guidance 535 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,000 And if I were just going to get guidance from my own conscience 536 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Or potentially from pod show lawyers 537 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000 You know they would say remove it immediately 538 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,000 And I'm again I wouldn't want it in my note 539 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 But it's not in my note but it is linked from our directory 540 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000 So help me out and let me know what you think 541 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Adam at curry.com 542 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000 Hi Adam 543 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,000 This is Cory over at the 501c3 cast 544 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000 A podcast for nonprofit professionals volunteers 545 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000 And all around do gooders 546 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000 As we know Hurricane Katrina has brought enormous devastation 547 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000 And grief to New Orleans and the surrounding areas 548 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,000 Over the past few weeks we have watched some horrible images of human loss 549 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,000 But have also been touched by equally powerful displays of charity and support 550 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,000 It's important for all of us to remember that as the media hype declines 551 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,000 The work of the red cross and other nonprofits continues 552 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,000 Could you please share a few of these reminders with your listeners? 553 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Remember the recovery efforts don't stop when the news stories do 554 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,000 There are going to be needs in Louisiana and beyond for years to come 555 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,000 Find out what you can do to help with the long term efforts 556 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Also as the holiday giving season approaches 557 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Remember that your generous contributions to hurricane relief efforts 558 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Is not a replacement for donations that you would normally make 559 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000 To your favorite charities and nonprofits 560 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,000 As funds have been diverted to support the survivors of hurricane Katrina 561 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000 Your local nonprofits need your regular support more than ever 562 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Please don't forget them 563 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,000 Also remember that all tragedies strike suddenly and unexpectedly 564 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Unfortunately there will be other events in the future that will require your help 565 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,000 The best way to aid in these events is become a trained volunteer now 566 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,000 If you felt helpless watching the images of the recent hurricane 567 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,000 And wish there was a way you could help then then sign up now 568 00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:00,000 If you or anyone you know has a strong interest in the work of nonprofits and their stories 569 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,000 I also welcome you to check out the 501c3cast 570 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,000 You can find us at www.501c3cast.com 571 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,000 Or by searching for nonprofit in the iTunes directory 572 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,000 And remember if we keep working together it will get better 573 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,000 It was born on July 15, 2005 574 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,000 And now the seven headed monster from Pod Show Music 575 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,000 Is about to make landfall 576 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Music 577 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,000 Starting Monday, September 26, coming to a media player near you 578 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,000 See see what the hell are you doing man? What's going on? 579 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000 I don't even know what this is 580 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,000 I can't wait 581 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,000 The 26 I will definitely be tuned in with my media player 582 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Excellent 583 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,000 Hey, so there's a big, big, big mega 584 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Music industry bash 585 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000 Taking place in Las Vegas Friday night 586 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,000 It is a party 587 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000 It is a 588 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000 Dremaine de Priz birthday birthday party 589 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000 I think he has like the number one record in the country 590 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000 Now I really don't follow the charts anymore 591 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000 But of course I know him he's been Janet Jackson's boyfriend 592 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000 For many, many years 593 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000 Who wasn't that 594 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,000 And through Greg Lawley we talked about him 595 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000 He hooked up with him after 11 years 596 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,000 He has set up some meetings 597 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000 This is basically one of those 598 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000 If you have a number one record in the country in the old school music business 599 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,000 Everybody wants to be your buddy of course 600 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000 And it's huge and it's a weekend 601 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000 And he's throwing a birthday bash 602 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000 And he's invited all the right people 603 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000 He's a rat pack dress 604 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Which sucks because I don't have my rat pack clothes 605 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,000 I don't know where I'm going to find time to shop for rat pack clothing 606 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000 So I'm basically trying to get a hat and a cane 607 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000 And try and play it off that way 608 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000 And some gold cufflinks I guess 609 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000 And so Greg has set up a couple 610 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Because we talk for hours about pod safe music 611 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000 And basically there's a two way street that I'd like to open up 612 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000 I'd like for pod safe music to be able to go 613 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000 Through some of the traditional distribution channels 614 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Which means and really is distribution 615 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000 I'm not talking about getting pod safe artists 616 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Signed up to record labels but distribution 617 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Distribution and promotion 618 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Which equals sales 619 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,000 And I think that people who are serious about their profession as musicians 620 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Either you go work in a bar 621 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000 You play gigs on weekends 622 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,000 Or you find other means to make money 623 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000 And the pod safe music not work as one way 624 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,000 With direct sales 625 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000 And through lots of promotion on podcast 626 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,000 Which is fantastic 627 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000 And I think if something gets really popular 628 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000 Be great if we could have somewhat broader traditional distribution 629 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000 So that's one thing I'm going to talk about 630 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Some of these execs about 631 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000 And of course the other one is 632 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Okay, so what if there's a great song 633 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000 That is licensed by the RIAA 634 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Which by the way 635 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000 It's the RIAA is just an association 636 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000 It's the owner of the masters 637 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000 So it's the record label in most cases 638 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000 The master 639 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000 And if you want to play a 640 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,000 Traditional music business song on your podcast 641 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000 You have to have as far as we know at this point 642 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000 Because of course no one has a straight answer 643 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000 You have to have two things taken care of 644 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000 One is you have to have 645 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000 You have to pay your ASCAP BMI license fee 646 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Which is not a huge amount of money 647 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000 But if you... 648 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Well it's significant 649 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000 I mean it's like a thousand bucks a year 650 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,000 At least 651 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000 And if you make money with your podcast 652 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000 You have to have a percentage of your gross income 653 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000 Okay 654 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,000 That's fair 655 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,000 Makes sense and that's a deal 656 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,000 It's been around for a long time 657 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000 But then you also have to have permission 658 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000 In this case 659 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Because we're talking about digital downloads 660 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000 And that's a very, very fuzzy area 661 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,000 And of course 99% of all record executives 662 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,000 Have never 663 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,000 Have never listened to a podcast 664 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,000 They probably think it's playlists of music being played 665 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,000 Not that 666 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,000 They have to have an listen 667 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,000 So I don't know what's going on 668 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000 It's like radio except it's our kind of radio 669 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000 You know what we do what we want 670 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000 So you have to have permission in order to play it 671 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,000 And then of course you technically could 672 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,000 So what I'd like to talk to some of these labels about 673 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,000 Is 674 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000 Waving both fees if possible 675 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000 And again I'm not a lawyer 676 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000 But if we get some written permission on stuff 677 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000 Then it could be interesting to see what shows up 678 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Because look I'm not interested in playing 679 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,000 Jermaine Dupree because the radio stations do a fine job of that 680 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 And it's a number one song 681 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,000 But I am interested in playing lots of back catalog as an example 682 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,000 And I think that it's we know it results in sales 683 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000 People go to iTunes 684 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000 I play that French song 685 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Schonce Lise 686 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 On was it Monday show 687 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,000 I got so many responses 688 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000 So many people 689 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000 And it sounds from 1969 690 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,000 It's almost as old as I am 691 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000 And people loved it 692 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000 And of course I was in total violation 693 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,000 Because I don't have the rights to play that song 694 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,000 But it is a part of the soundtrack of my life 695 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000 And that's something that's really important 696 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000 I want to be able to mash stuff up 697 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000 Mashups is another blatant violation 698 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000 I want that to be legal and I want there to be an incentive 699 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000 And I want there to be everyone to win 700 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,000 So I want to be able to add a mash up to the iTunes music story 701 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000 So the people can download that 702 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000 And also download the original tracks 703 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000 So there's a, as I said, big power 704 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Big power I'm going to go 705 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,000 Vegas is great 706 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,000 Because it's only about an hour and 15 minutes from San Francisco 707 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,000 So I think when we go we have dinner with the guys from Deaf Jam 708 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000 And from Virgin 709 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,000 And then of course 710 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,000 Well, shocks 711 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,000 I guess I'll have to 712 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000 I guess I'll have to go to the party 713 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,000 Oh man, that's going to be so hard 714 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000 You know how I hate parties 715 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Hey, this one showed up on the pod 716 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Safe Music Network 717 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,000 Two days ago 718 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000 Brand new brother love 719 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000 There she goes 720 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,000 She goes 721 00:38:06,250 --> 00:40:06,250 [ Music ] 722 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000 Just tell the stories, just to keep it by. 723 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,000 And I'm going to love you so, that's the first thing. 724 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000 No, I don't want to be a loom. 725 00:40:14,000 --> 00:42:28,750 [ Music ] 726 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,760 Had no idea what you think. 727 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,760 Left in love. 728 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,600 Bye! 729 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,600 Grab the love. 730 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,600 There she goes! 731 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,600 I can't believe it did 43 minutes, even though I was planning to do like 25. 732 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,600 I just haven't too much fun here in the condo. 733 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,600 Hey everybody, I'm off to the office. 734 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,600 I'm going to put the show up on the server, get some former show notes going, 735 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,600 and I will be back with you tomorrow. 736 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:59,600 Another Potsho podcast, stick it in your ear.