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Delta Sierra Charlie 278. Good morning everybody. Welcome once again from Ontario, California.

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This is a daily source code. It's Saturday morning, crack a dawn. You can hear the lovely air

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conditioner here in my Sheraton hotel suite kicking in once again. I can think of me

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up all night. Every single time I would kick in or actually when it would kick off, turn

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off, then I would wake up in a slight sweat. I am definitely jet-lagged. I got my nice inroom

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coffee going here. I feed it just give it a little update on what's happening here at the

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portable media expo. A couple of things that happened yesterday and just give you my

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impression and talk about some other stuff. We'll enjoy a couple of coffee this morning

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together. I was looking for some cool music to play on the Pod State Music Network and I actually

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wound up checking a couple of podcasts out, which is usually the way I find a new music or a music

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that I want to play on the show. It doesn't necessarily have to be new. Some of that pod safe stuff

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is years old and just now getting uploaded. I bumped into a Pod Show music re-wine number 7,

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which I hadn't heard yet. This is the show. You can actually find that music.podshow.com

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on the homepage. It's a 7 different Pod Show music podcasters and it's a selection. I think

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Marcus from the scenes scene takes one or two songs and a little piece of a clip of each show

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and puts that together at the end of the week, which is a really great way to listen to some

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very diverse bunch of tunes. And CC Chapman played this song that I immediately went looking for

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and maybe I'm just not searching right, which doesn't make any sense or maybe it's just not uploaded,

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but if CC played it then I'm going to assume that it is Pod safe and therefore playable on the show.

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It's a perfect Saturday morning song. CC likened it to the Beatles and

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something else. What do you say? I don't know. To me it was more like a Dooby Brothers vibe.

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I think he's a Massachusetts native. The name of the band, I think it's just one guy is the candy

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butchers. And so basically what I'm doing now is I'm ripping a piece of the Pod Show music re-wine.

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I'm cutting CC off and going straight into the song. Oh shoot, hold on a second. Dude, I didn't

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have my, I didn't have a Pod about hold on now. I got to listen to CC for a second hold on. Here it comes.

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That's what she said. And I'm like, okay, what is this? What am I in for? And the next one?

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Yeah, so CC was very surprised by this guy as well when he said, I think he saw him play live.

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Play the most amazing rocking set I had ever seen. Come on, CC, get to it.

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Me away. It was a mix of like the Beatles and Elvis Costs. Yeah, there you go. He said the Beatles

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and Elvis Costello, but I disagree with that. It's much more like the house, like the dubies.

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Played and played play. And the reason they did this was they didn't have a drum set that they're

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waiting for. And I had this on a queue up too. And they rocked the house. Yeah, they rocked.

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And that showed the musical talent. And I went home and I couldn't stop raving about them.

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And I thought, come on, CC, there we go. Check this out. What are we going to do about Michael?

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I think is the title.

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[ Music ]

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It just needs time to heal

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Oh, that's right

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He just needs time to heal

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He knows

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Man

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Is that a candy putster

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He's quite easy

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Is that a Saturday morning song or what?

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Oh man, I'm totally, totally loving that

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The connectivity the hotel is not the best

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So I wasn't able to download any other songs

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I really just wanted to

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Just wanted to do a quick podcast

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Last night were the podcast awards

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Not quite sure how they worked

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I think the winners were announced a long long time ago

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And this was essentially the award ceremony

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Got a real nice, like Lucite thing here

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For 2005 podcast awards

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I received the People's Choice Award

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The people have spoken for best-produced daily source code

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I really appreciate that, it's very nice

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Meeting all kinds of cool people here

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And last night at the award show

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Just unbelievable how many people I know about or heard of

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Or recognize their voice

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Oh, by the way, long with that prize

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A long with the prize

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Came a check for $250

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Which I re-aworded to Doug K's podcast Academy

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I think is fantastic

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It's really it's for real, it's happening

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I think the podcast Academy is something that we came up on

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Came up with like an 18,000 feet flying back from Nomdex

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And we were talking about that

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Maybe it was the oxygen

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But Doug certainly got that kick in man

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That's very cool

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And I also received

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I think all the winners received a microphone

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A brand new microphone

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It's a

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Hile

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I don't know about the name there

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H-E-I-L

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The PR40

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Let me see what they say about the Hile

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Hile sound has established a reputation for innovation during the past 37 years

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In the live concert sound market

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Custom home theater industry

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Building the highest quality microphones for the amateur radio and communications market

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Okay, so this is apparently their top of the line

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Should we try it out?

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Okay

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Let's do that

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That's actually a pretty cool idea

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It has a

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Let's see, does it have a

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Let's fit on my stand here?

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Yeah, I think that will

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Okay

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Here's what I'll do

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Right now I'm on the AKG

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See 1000s

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So I have to turn off the Phantom power for second and an unplugged switch over

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So just bear with me for one second

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You'll kind of hear it plop and around

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And then we'll be on the new mic

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Hold on

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Oh

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It's actually sounds pretty good

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Wow

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This is nice

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Hold on, let me put it on the old stand

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It has its own

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Shoot

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It has its own

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I'm talking into the side of it now

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There we go

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It has its own

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Oh man

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My other mic stand is really jacked

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I'm tight here

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Hold on

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Here we go

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It has a little hold

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Oh shoot

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So it has its own holder

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But now I have to unplug

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I unplug the mic again to make it work

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Okay, hold on

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Let me

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Let me see

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There's something I can play for you

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No, I don't

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We're already committed to this

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Stay with me

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Wow

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They even have a

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Shoot hold on

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I have to unplug it one more time

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Bear with me

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There we go

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Wow

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It looks very professional

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I have to say

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I think it sounds nice

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Yeah, it has nice bottom range

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Nice bottom range

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Yeah, lovely

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Oh man

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I got a cool sound clip

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That somebody sent me

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Check this out

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This is

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This is in regards to the discussion

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about the curry cruiser

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The jag xj

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Superv8

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That was sleek and smart

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For men who'd like hand jobs

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From beautiful women

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They hardly know

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That's from that crazy

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Crazy movie

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That's not again

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I like that

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That was sleek and smart

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For men who'd like hand jobs

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From beautiful women

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They hardly know

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Fantastic

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Last night

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It was so tired

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And I tried to listen to a couple of podcasts

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And I watched a little bit of TV

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Which is completely boring

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Someone knocked on my door

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Because it did wake me up

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I saw an email

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That there was

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Let's see if I can find it for you

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That there was a pajama party

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This is a rowdy bunch

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Let me tell you

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Let me see

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It was from

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Madge

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Let's see

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Come on Madge

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Where's your email

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Now here we go

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Sexie PJ podcast party

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We're taping the pajama party in our room

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I won't give you the number

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In half an hour

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Soccer girl

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P.K. and Jay chick

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Nicole and me

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And a couple of creepy dudes

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It'll be videotaped for the feed

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Nicole looks sexy in a 90

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That's a magic stylus

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Who's a long for the ride

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The PJ party didn't show up

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But some of the stuff that Madge did yesterday

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It's pretty wrang actually

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I don't know if I'm proud of it or not

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And some other people were up really late

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Drinkin' around the world

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Oh wait, this is not the one

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This is good too

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Today's podcast for October 20, 2005

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Welcome back

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This is something I found

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Long absence

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Today we have a celebrity inspired term

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Maya Copa

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Recently Bill Gates used it when describing

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Microsoft's failure to dominate the online music industry

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Maya Copa

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Spelled MEA

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Space CU

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LPA

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Is a Latin phrase uttered to accept guilt

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It translates to my fault

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I think people like using the phrase

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Because it is psychologically easier to say than my fault

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Bill Gates used it

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Maya Copa is interesting

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While I'm sure Bill Gates

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thinks he can dominate

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Anything he directs Microsoft to tackle

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Apologizing for not dominating the online music industry

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Is awfully presumptuous

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I've also heard Adam Curry drop this bit of Latin

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On the daily source code

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My notes go

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I first heard it over a year ago

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Back on September 27, 2004

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Back in the early days of podcasting

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I had no idea what that was for

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I didn't know I inspired a word of the day

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That's pretty cool

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Now here's what I actually wanted to play for

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This is pretty funny

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I was up at a really pissed

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Okay, so it pissed by the way

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Some of the blackberries to close

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Pist by the way

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In Britain means drunk

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Not angry

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I've just been listening to your podcast

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From fuck knows

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I just want to drop your line saying

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Obviously you're in and out in and out of England

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And around Europe

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This guy is so here and we're listening to it

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Which means you're going to spend some time

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Time in our car I am pissed

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I'm recording this to some my eye book

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So I'm just using that little PC

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So you're going to spend time

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Jettin around here and there

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And all stuff

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Which means you're going to hit centre of town sometime

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I'm a TV producer doing some stuff at the moment

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And I actually right now I'm doing some marketing bits and pieces for MTV

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I know you know that company

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The Viacom brand

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People that do these things

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That's not the exact

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So basically

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You're going to meet a whole lot of people out there

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To do that podcast

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Whatever the fuck that's all about

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I don't know

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You talk about it

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What is your show about?

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That is a very good question my friend

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That is the $64,000 question

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What is it about?

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I don't know

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It's about experimentation

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It's about what's happening in podcasting

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It's the way my mom keeps up with what I'm doing

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Exactly

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Because I've listened to it for like the last three months

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Maybe less or two months

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I don't know

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What your podcast is about

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I don't know what it's about

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I listen to it

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And I enjoy it

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But then I listen to Brandon and Eric

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Doing the MacGeek.com

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When I listen to the Twit podcast

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I like that

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That's funny

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Although they always talk about video

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I don't know what the fuck they're talking about

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The video thing

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I think it's just very very

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Americanized

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I don't know

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Is that the word?

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Damn, I'm doing it

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I don't know what you do

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I'm an American word

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And then say is that right

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And then at accept

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I'm not going to get feedback on this

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I did love your

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What was it?

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GMT

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No, no

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What should be

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Yes

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It is standard time

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Is that a summertime

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I enjoyed that

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It made me smoke

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Because I thought to myself

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He means summer

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I knew what you mean

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It doesn't matter

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I didn't need to write it

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Anyway

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What are these anal people about?

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So, basically, a long short of it

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My name is Charles

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I'm a person

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I live in London

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Right, I'm brother

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Love them what you do

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I'd like to meet you

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Could you tell them I can interest in person

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So, if you were very nice

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Okay, then it goes on to give us phone numbers

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Which are one play

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That's what I like about the Brit's man

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When they're drunk

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When they're a little bit soft up

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They're funny

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They really are

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There's a certain point where they

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They can tip over

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And they become a little aggressive

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And angry

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And unreasonable

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Like most drunk people

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But

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Yeah, it's

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And I'm not for it

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By the way

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Because drinking is a huge

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Huge problem

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And Christina's 15 years old

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And the story she's told me about her friends

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Getting just so drunk that their vomiting blood

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It's very disturbing

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But it's such a part of the culture there

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Oh, that's my, actually set my alarm

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The blackberry waking me up

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You know what?

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As I sit here

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In this extremely depressing hotel room

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By the way, what I think is a fantastic microphone sound

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This is well worth coming to the expo

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Just to get this free mic

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The sun is just coming up

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I can see it coming through

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The palm trees

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The shades are cracked open just a little bit

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I think it's the perfect

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Opportunity to play this song

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Which I have played in my

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Was it the curry condo video that I did?

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Jimmy Bratcher

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Restless for this song

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Good morning

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[ Music ]

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That's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's such a long time

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From his red CD

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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It's just one of the prettiest songs I've heard

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My going purely pot safe and proud to be that way I might say that

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It was a really good discussion actually

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There was another guy on who I forgot What his name was

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He has a streaming business

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And he had some interesting information about that business model

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I think at the end of the day we all agreed

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That there's significant change of flow

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And particularly in podcasting with consegu

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We're just routing around

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all of the licensing issues, you know, it's the music industry's problem. They're bad,

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but they aren't able to license stuff to us. See what else regarding Podsake music? Oh,

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there's a new digital flots amount, P-Dub did an excellent, and you know, I should play a little

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piece of that for you, just the beginning of it, because it's so excited. You know, P-Dub, we hired him

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before a Podsho was a company to do the serious show. And actually, I've never met him in person,

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which is just a travesty, although Madge Weinstein thought that she met him on one of the video

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cast that I saw, turned out to be Chris Kringle. Let me see if I can just bring this up for you,

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because P-Dub has now also decided to go 100% Podsake, which unfortunately also means that little

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that signature, beginning that he has, today, today, today, that's kind of his digital flots.

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I'm starting thing there, his tune. I'll just play a little bit, because I think the, I think he

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really sums it all up. And as you listen to this digital flotsome episode number, what is it's 20?

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Oh, my second, this has 26, but I had 27. Shoot, I have to get it from the, it has an updated

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yet, and I too, thank you, iTunes. Okay, I'll get it straight from his site that I'll work too.

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So we start off basically pronouncing the, what is this? Man, I don't understand what's happening

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with my website. It really fricking blows. I want to move this thing to WordPress so bad.

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Okay, let me go to digital flotsome. I'll get it straight from digital flot. I thought I'd link to it.

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Okay, yeah, it's the rest-in-piece edition. So it's just going to open it with iTunes.

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What the hell is going on here? Oh, it's streaming? Interesting. Okay, let's see if that actually works.

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Oh, maybe it would help if I, there we go.

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He talks about the new revolution later on. One thing I do know for sure, it's over. There's no,

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I'm not going to be playing anymore licensed music. If it's not registered through the

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Podsafe Music Network, I'm going 100% Podsafe from this moment on. It's over. It's over. It's over. It's

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over.

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Dearly beloved, we are gathered here together on this solemn occasion

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to mourn the tragic passing of two siblings, the recording industry and the broadcasting industry.

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Any time a passing like this comes so unexpectedly, it is hard for us to understand.

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We often cry out, why Lord? Why were they taken?

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Often their passing seems so senseless, so unforeseeable.

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But I am here to tell you that this is an instance where I think I can bring the grieving

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some comfort in the knowledge that even this tragic passing can be explained in a way that anyone

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can understand.

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The idiots brought it on themselves. They sinned until they were punished for their single-minded

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green and lack of imagination made ways suffer for eternity.

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[ Music ]

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How cool is that, huh? Hello and welcome to another edition of digital flat out.

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You really should listen to the show to get the full effect. While that was playing, by the way,

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I opened another piece of my little prize package there. This is a shock mount for the microphone.

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Built by those who care and fair few heights of Illinois, USA. I can tell you guys care because this is

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some good ass shit, man. I like this. So it has one of those wire frames, real professional looking

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and I don't even need a like a plop filter. Well, maybe a little bit, but I've got a really

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like the sound of this mic. This is cool. Something else that I heard last night was a cotton

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steam song podcast, KTSP and I was so sweet because she obviously also heard about me going

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to a purely pod safe and she dedicated an entire show to me, which was just so beautiful.

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The flying edition, of course, all kinds of flying songs. So I don't know what she's going to do

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now that now that that is no longer going to be legal anywhere, but also not in the Netherlands.

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I wonder she's going to continue with that show. It's too bad because the way she

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aggregates those songs and gets all the right themes together. It's fantastic. It's my favorite

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favorite podcast for a Sunday late morning. See who else did I want to talk about?

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Oh, yeah, yesterday during the awards and the place was packed and still it's such a fun vibe

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and there's so many different people here. There are lots of listeners who

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sponsored their like the tartan podcast. What's his name? Mark from the tartan podcast.

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He's from Scotland and one of his biggest fans, one of his listeners, co-sponsored his trip out here

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and I talk with her for a while and she's just really into it and she's in a totally different

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business and there were listeners who came up to me yesterday who were big fans of a podcast

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heard about the expo and just wanted to come up and meet everybody and I hold on. I should get my cards

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one second. Just stay right there, okay. Let me just grab this out of my. Oh man, where did I put them?

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Oh, here they are. I think this is it. It was I think was Darren. He introduced himself as one of the

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blind casters, which to me was very, very evident when he came up to me. This is the guy actually

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who wrote me an email and pitched him on and was kind of mean in his approach. I don't have his

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card here about some accessibility features, but we had a really great chat surrounded by

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million other people which is what I hate about these types of gatherings as you can never really

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sit down and just chat with someone which is actually why we have the the pod show lounge

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is so we could just you know have a place where the pod show people can hang out and talk with

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people and because you know there's like stars man, the frickin celebrities. Look at Dawn Drew is

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amazing yesterday. It's like sunny and share on acid. More acid than sunny and share. So anyway,

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so Darren had some really good remarks about the pod safe music network, particularly while

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it's all about accessibility and I really want to make it our mission and this is a message to

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pod show HQ as well. In all the building that we're doing, let's try and put these accessibility

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features for a huge core audience of pod casting, namely people who are blind. Let's make sure we

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put that into the DNA of our thinking and that we always develop with that in mind because there

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are some things particularly about the pod safe music network which is really bogus that don't

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work for instance the verification email. There's some flash is a huge problem and I don't know

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if there's like alt tags or accessibility features and flash that you can use but I can certainly

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see why flash interfaces don't work for the blind. So anyway so yeah he was going through this

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whole list of things like dude you know I've afforded one or two of these emails that I've caught

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you know that you sent to me but why don't we just give you a login to our bugzilla

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database which is if you're not familiar with bugzilla you know look it up but it's essentially an

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open source database where you can drop in bug reports and there's you know tickets are assigned

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to them and you know it can go through a resolution path so that eventually stuff basically gets

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done and of course it being open source and put together by a whole bunch of really smart people

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it is very accessible so Darren was was completely you know over the just overjoyed with that and so

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we're going to have him doing some QA and helping us out which I think is a great idea to have

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your users those who are familiar with it and Darren is familiar with the with programs like

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bugzilla actually you know I think that's kind of what was designed for wasn't it for users to

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be able to feed back I think so let's see I had another message here let's just I'm just going

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through the through the Gmail box and seeing what's up let's check this out for a sec well shoot

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Steve Pender from karate cast nice the little like to have been there with you in Ontario

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California with the media expo but the money hasn't exactly been there yet but we're working on it

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and we have a chance in the near future to possibly make some money at this so that's good we're

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working in that direction right on but I kind of wanted to talk to you a little bit about

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what's been going on in your show notes I'm sure you've read it with some of the

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just the crap and what he's talking about is the comments not the show notes but the comments

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I think this is the thing if you've looked at the comments on curry dot com between

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nightwise and Michaels in there who actually does the show notes and a couple other people even

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I jumped into this thread and you know for 25 years now I've been studying the reality of

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confrontations and what really amazes me is the crowing one could do on the internet the language

513
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that is used here by some people would never be used face to face it's how bravely people run

514
00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:12,980
there mouth online that is sometimes hysterical the internet has become a place where people with

515
00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:18,260
zero confidence and spine can posture a bit by sticking their chest out and beating it like a

516
00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:23,700
babbling gorilla I've met some of these internet critics face to face and they can barely get a

517
00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:28,420
word out without wetting themselves the bickering in your show notes from Wednesday's show

518
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:35,460
about you calling someone out on your show was like comic relief I learned a long time ago

519
00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:40,900
that one share critics will complain you know about how they're a life's treating them

520
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:46,500
and do absolutely nothing to change it so Adam if you don't mind I just like to say something to

521
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:54,340
these few one share warriors yes Adam Curry has a podcast show yes it is popular

522
00:32:55,140 --> 00:33:01,060
yes if you're hearing this then you listen to it yes he has an agenda it's called the pursuit of

523
00:33:01,060 --> 00:33:08,660
his family's happiness and yes he has that right in yes you have that right to voice your opinion

524
00:33:08,660 --> 00:33:14,500
as does he and yes you're allowed to say stupid things to him and you should be happy he even

525
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:20,500
allows you to leave him messages and yes when you say something completely moronic he has the right

526
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:26,100
to publicly announce your stupidity hey man you should be thankful someone is recognized you for

527
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:30,980
your true calling in fact people like you should post their resumes on his show notes for possible

528
00:33:30,980 --> 00:33:37,060
job opportunities you could sign it with a big ink stamp of a butt so people can recognize it as your

529
00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:44,100
hi I'm Steve Pender the host of karate cast at www dot karate cast dot com

530
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:48,500
thanks Steve good pipes there man nice processing that's not really good

531
00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:55,140
if you're here at the expo you've probably seen the t-shirts the unditioned t-shirts

532
00:33:55,140 --> 00:33:58,980
if you go to podshow dot com you can also see kind of what that looks like there's an unditioned

533
00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:05,140
banner that shows up a lot of people asking about that uh it is something that we're ramping up

534
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:12,100
wasn't ready to fully announce here at the uh at the expo I said and you know and it's also

535
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:18,900
not something you announce just something you do I think that if you look at the entire universe of

536
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:25,780
podcasters which is what 10,000 registered now I'm like very stuff that 10,000 registered podcasters

537
00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:32,740
it's a podcast alley in any pod or dot org the the the 1000 most enthusiastic

538
00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:41,700
shit man when we fill that thing on the floor um now let me rephrase that the people who came out here

539
00:34:41,700 --> 00:34:45,940
who were able to come out not everyone who was it was enthusiastic podcaster and passionate about

540
00:34:45,940 --> 00:34:50,900
what they're doing could come out but the people came out here are really very motivated and a big topic

541
00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:56,980
of discussion is how do we make money on this and i promise you that that was uh what podshow

542
00:34:56,980 --> 00:35:02,180
is all about and then we're going to um going to start answering some of those questions um as you

543
00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:09,460
know there's a number of podcasters um which i lovingly call the pod squad uh who have uh essentially

544
00:35:09,460 --> 00:35:14,660
been able to give up their quit their day job and podcast full time and it's not just their own podcast

545
00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:19,060
but they're producing other podcasters and they're really working with us on creating what we think

546
00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:30,660
will be uh the next set of tools needed for podcasters um and probably more importantly uh what

547
00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:38,900
we need to grow our audiences and acquire listeners and uh having met hundreds of you here at the

548
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:43,700
expo and many hundreds more that i haven't been able to meet and probably won't just because there

549
00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:50,660
is enough time um every single one of you seems really incredibly qualified and we feel that there's

550
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:58,980
a way and a process um to find uh people who we can basically help quit their day job if not just

551
00:35:58,980 --> 00:36:04,100
say hey congratulations quit your day job. i think there's also a listener side to that by the way

552
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:09,380
of i've seen all these um these these really passionate listeners who were promoting their favorite

553
00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:15,540
podcast uh i think uh that's a very valuable uh skill and and passion something else that can be

554
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:21,860
rural rewarded by allowing um great listeners and sponsors of podcast to quit their day job

555
00:36:22,660 --> 00:36:27,780
that's really what this audition is about and stay tuned because uh in the coming weeks i'll be

556
00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:35,940
explaining more about this and oh by the way everyone i mean everyone can participate and that's been

557
00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:43,060
really uh pretty important point i think you're gonna like it the audition the largest promotion

558
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:46,180
podcasts about to hit you right between the ears

559
00:36:48,750 --> 00:39:31,250
[ Music ]

560
00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:37,340
Oh man, Robin Stein sweet blossom from her daydream CD

561
00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:40,340
Played that on the source code a couple of times

562
00:39:40,340 --> 00:39:47,340
One more thing about the audition, not only can anyone participate, but anyone who participate automatically wins

563
00:39:47,340 --> 00:39:53,340
Because besides, I guess if you look at the steps in podcasting, there's really three steps

564
00:39:53,340 --> 00:39:59,340
For a lot of you, I know because you're so passionate about what you do, the ultimate is to quit your day job

565
00:39:59,340 --> 00:40:02,340
I think underneath that is G, I'd like to just make some money

566
00:40:02,340 --> 00:40:06,340
Kind of like pod save music artists, you know, it'd be great if you had a hit

567
00:40:06,340 --> 00:40:10,340
It's also nice if you can just get some rent money out of this

568
00:40:10,340 --> 00:40:15,340
So I think that's a step that we can help a large number of podcasters with

569
00:40:15,340 --> 00:40:20,340
Of course it doesn't involve advertising and sponsorship and doing business

570
00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:25,340
But none of it will ever make you change what you do

571
00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:31,340
That's kind of interesting, you know, all the shows that are now part of the pod show family

572
00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:36,340
Just so you know there is an absolute rule as we have no say over the content

573
00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:43,340
And it's explicitly stated that way, because I don't even want the opportunity to have the say over what's happening

574
00:40:43,340 --> 00:40:47,340
And how many shows you want to make? I don't care, you do as many shows as you want

575
00:40:47,340 --> 00:40:51,340
You know, you get rewarded based upon the audience size

576
00:40:51,340 --> 00:41:00,340
So it's anyway, so then you have one more level, I think that's a vast majority of people who may not even be interested in

577
00:41:00,340 --> 00:41:05,340
In monetizing their podcast, but we're surely going to open it up for everybody

578
00:41:05,340 --> 00:41:16,340
And that's just give me some great, reliable bandwidth, let me map my feed to a service that is going to stay up and is guaranteed to work

579
00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:27,340
And one that is not necessarily, you know, a new project, you know, and just access bandwidth from somewhere

580
00:41:27,340 --> 00:41:34,340
And you'll be hearing about this just around the same time you hear about all the details of the condition

581
00:41:34,340 --> 00:41:43,340
Is that we have teamed up with some great, great companies to create the pod show podcast delivery network

582
00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:45,340
And I'm very, very excited about it

583
00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:48,340
Man, I'm telling you a lot on this Saturday morning, aren't I?

584
00:41:48,340 --> 00:41:53,340
Well, maybe one more thing I wanted to talk about, audible announced a service yesterday for podcasters

585
00:41:53,340 --> 00:42:02,340
And you remember a couple months ago, I was talking about the concept of what I call soft DRM, actually Ron calls it soft DRM

586
00:42:02,340 --> 00:42:10,340
We all hate the DRM term, and the fact that through DRM has such a negative connotation

587
00:42:10,340 --> 00:42:18,340
Because when you say DRM, lots of people think, oh yeah, that's the stuff that, you know, that's from the people who accuse me of being a thief

588
00:42:18,340 --> 00:42:25,340
And, and it's associated with not being able to copy and, yeah, basically not being able to rip something off

589
00:42:25,340 --> 00:42:35,340
But there's a lot of major bonuses to having DRM, which is, for instance, getting a lot more information about your listeners

590
00:42:35,340 --> 00:42:42,340
And being able to make your show a lot more interactive, understanding what people are and aren't tuning into

591
00:42:43,340 --> 00:42:52,340
And I discussed this, well, we had a lot of, we've had a lot of ongoing conversations with the big digital rights management players

592
00:42:52,340 --> 00:43:03,340
And, you know, so I've always been kind of searching for an open type solution where we can use all the benefits, but kind of, you know, can get away from the negativity of DRM

593
00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:08,340
And, you know, that I had several conversations with Don Kats from audible

594
00:43:09,340 --> 00:43:16,340
Man, this is so unfortunate because he took parts of the right idea, but then he put it all behind the corporate firewall

595
00:43:16,340 --> 00:43:21,340
And, and he's charging people to use his infrastructure and his service

596
00:43:21,340 --> 00:43:27,340
And that, that is not the way that I think I did a bad job probably explaining to him

597
00:43:27,340 --> 00:43:30,340
What, what we wrote, the power really can be

598
00:43:30,340 --> 00:43:36,340
And now, if you do the math on it, it seems like you're actually, you wind up paying quite a lot of money

599
00:43:37,340 --> 00:43:43,340
To, to deliver your, you know, to really get this information where there's a lot of this information

600
00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:49,340
Yeah, we could have done it differently, that's all I know, but anyway, so we'll have to see how that plays out

601
00:43:49,340 --> 00:43:56,340
I'm not seeing a lot of, I'm seeing a lot of confusion about it from, you know, from podcasts, we're trying to understand

602
00:43:56,340 --> 00:44:03,340
Well, what exactly does this mean and I think that what they're all seeing is, hey, this means money out of my pocket again

603
00:44:03,340 --> 00:44:09,340
So, we're trying to reverse all that, you know, if you want, if you want, great statistical analysis

604
00:44:09,340 --> 00:44:12,340
I mean, some really good, useful stats

605
00:44:12,340 --> 00:44:16,340
Then you're going to be happy when we start coming out with the, with the PDN

606
00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:18,340
Speaking of happy

607
00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:24,340
Nothing like a little intweign on the Saturday morning

608
00:44:26,250 --> 00:47:36,250
[ Music ]

609
00:47:37,340 --> 00:47:41,340
It'll Roger, an in time and happy on the daily source code

610
00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:43,340
It is a

611
00:47:43,340 --> 00:47:46,340
Let's see, it's a time for breakfast

612
00:47:46,340 --> 00:47:50,340
What it is, one more comment I want to say about the podcast

613
00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:53,340
Expo is that I think is really unfortunate

614
00:47:53,340 --> 00:47:56,340
And somewhat strange that there is no channel out

615
00:47:56,340 --> 00:47:59,340
This is not a blogging convention

616
00:47:59,340 --> 00:48:02,340
So although there are lots of flicker photos

617
00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:05,340
And there is a blogging going on, there's no audio

618
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:07,340
It's really strange

619
00:48:07,340 --> 00:48:11,340
I would expect that it would have been made a lot more sense to stream

620
00:48:11,340 --> 00:48:13,340
Some of the sessions or at least the key notes

621
00:48:13,340 --> 00:48:15,340
That would have been great

622
00:48:15,340 --> 00:48:16,340
Or create podcast

623
00:48:16,340 --> 00:48:18,340
So I'm sure that they'll show up

624
00:48:18,340 --> 00:48:21,340
Because people have obviously recorded these things

625
00:48:21,340 --> 00:48:23,340
I just don't understand why

626
00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:28,340
The brothers didn't think of making some of these things streaming

627
00:48:28,340 --> 00:48:31,340
I think that's a great way to really hype up a conference

628
00:48:31,340 --> 00:48:33,340
Anyway, it doesn't matter

629
00:48:34,340 --> 00:48:37,340
Dude, we've done like a full show

630
00:48:37,340 --> 00:48:39,340
Okay, I'm going to go have some breakfast

631
00:48:39,340 --> 00:48:41,340
I might do a show tomorrow

632
00:48:41,340 --> 00:48:46,340
Depending on what's happening and what time Doug K is flying back

633
00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:48,340
I'm going to hit your right on the banana

634
00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:49,340
So thanks for tuning in

635
00:48:49,340 --> 00:48:50,340
DailySourceCode.com

636
00:48:50,340 --> 00:48:53,340
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637
00:48:53,340 --> 00:48:55,340
Or subscribe to the show

638
00:48:55,340 --> 00:48:56,340
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639
00:48:56,340 --> 00:48:58,340
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