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Transmitters?

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Then the next generation radio content in my ears.

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We don't need nuss.

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Thinking turns me in.

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I like to think I'm flying into the shunt.

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Fantastic.

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It's Adam Curry.

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Hey everybody, how you doing?

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Welcome.

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Man, my mixer is all scrunchy.

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Hold on, there we go.

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Okay, no more cracks.

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Crackling.

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Hey, welcome to Seattle, Washington.

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I'm here at the Western Hotel.

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It is...

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It's Tuesday, the 15th of November, 2005.

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And it is high noon.

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I had a very short night and a very busy morning.

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And I have about an hour before I have to go to the airport to fly back to San Francisco.

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Whether a willing, of course, if there's one thing I hate about Seattle, it's the ground fog.

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And not just Seattle, but also San Francisco.

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Yeah, I think the on-time chances of a flight is like 20% or something.

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So hopefully I'll get out of my 3-20 flight, 3-21.

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So let me bring you up to speed.

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Apologies about lack of a source code yesterday, but since I've done two over the week,

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I've figured you'd have enough to listen to and a lot of people like to catch up

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and sometimes it's hard if you're doing seven days a week.

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Witness Dawn and Drew, I've heard their listeners talk about that, but actually they do listen every single one.

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So, let me see what I'm going to say.

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Alright, so I didn't do a show yesterday because I wanted to have some time in the office to hang out with everybody

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and it's been a couple of weeks since I was gone and check up on stuff and look over everybody's shoulder

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and be obnoxious as usual.

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Rushed off to the airport with the Pod Pamp, Aaron Bersel, to Seattle, got in last night.

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This is a brand new hotel, by the way.

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This, this Western, I think I'm on the, was the 14th floor.

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I think about floor 20, they're probably still completing it.

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They're still putting inside walk out front and it's funny because the room has almost everything,

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but the coffee machine, I don't even know if the room has been used yet, the coffee machine, the coffee maker,

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not a stencil, was, it still had the original wire ties, the cable ties on the electric lead,

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so it wasn't plugged in, so it seems like it hasn't been used at all.

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And the reason for being here, as I think I told you in a previous show, is to meet with,

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or actually to present in front of 300 brand managers and media buyers of the Johnson & Johnson company,

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which is just unbelievably huge.

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Let me see, I think I actually have a list of the stuff that these guys make.

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I had no idea some of this stuff, I got, this is going to be a Gmail show, by the way.

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Oops, tab, I need my caps locked there.

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Since I really didn't have any time to prep, we'll just go through some Gmail and play some stuff

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that I have collected throughout the day.

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Let me see, I'm looking for the products.

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I just did something really cool, by the way.

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I needed to get Patricia's passport, a copy of her passport, to send off to a lawyer in the Netherlands.

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And, you know, I don't think she's ever done any scanning, here's the J&J products.

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I don't think she's ever done any scanning on the computer at home at the cottage.

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So what I did is I have a VNC, watch that, so I have my airports set up at home,

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so I could basically SSH into the iMac at the cottage.

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so that it knows which machine to talk to for certain protocols or basically for all protocols.

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And then I fired up VNC, then on this end, here in Seattle, I used chicken of VNC, opened up,

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so I could see the machine there, I could control it, opened up another terminal window on that machine,

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on the local network, and SSH into the desktop machine that Patricia's on,

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as her, of course, and then fired up VNC again.

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So I was actually able to create the entire scan and email the result to me,

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while sitting here, controlling her computer.

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The only thing she had to do was actually put the passport on the top of the scanner,

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or the absolute amazing.

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Johnson, Johnson products.

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Of course, Johnson, baby care products, Nutrigina, OB, stay free, care free, bandaid,

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adhesive managers, KY, monitor stat, Tylenol, motrin, pepsid,

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ammonium, malanta, splenda, benacol, lactate, all kinds of shit for your gastronomic

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active U, by the way, is already working on a plan.

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They've got a podcast coming out, which is completely underwritten by active U, two girls.

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I'll play that for you here.

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Heather and John L.

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And they cut a promo for me to play at this Johnson and Johnson hold down.

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So imagine me, on stage, I'm like a little Steve Jobs.

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As Madge would say, I had my pants pulled up to my vagina.

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Eating Johnson and Johnson, how y'all doing there in Seattle,

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bet you drink lots of really strong coffee right now.

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This is Heather and Janelle and New York.

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So how's it going at your big global media summit?

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Just how global, isn't anyway.

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Yeah, is Antartica there?

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Is Bali there?

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Well, he's sort of global and pretty hot, well for an older guy.

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Not to get too much time away from your important PowerPoint presentations and fancy sandwich lunches.

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That's acuvew.com.

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That's called a call to action.

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We'll be talking about lots of important stuff.

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Boys, clothes, music.

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Yeah.

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And all guys.

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Boys.

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Talk about some old guy.

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Do you really care if they listen?

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They are not.

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Our target market.

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True.

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Then tell your kids.

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Tell your kids to tune in.

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Download.acvew.com.

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That's called viral marketing.

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No back to your regularly scheduled conference.

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See ya.

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So you can imagine I got, I got some laughs with that and some other stuff.

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She did it yesterday.

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I ripped into them.

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I did the wholesale thing with the burping.

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Hey, yes, my favorite song of the day.

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Candy Butchers.

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What to do with Michael?

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It just needs time to heal.

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Well, that's right.

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He just needs time to heal.

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Okay, I love this song.

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Candy Butcher is what to do with Michael from Hang on Mike.

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Pot say, although not yet, on the Pot say, the music network.

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I do have permission to play it.

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I got a really nice email from from some folks who work with the

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And working on getting that on the Pot say music network.

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And cheese Louise.

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There is Michael Butler is now, you know, rock and old geek.

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The rock and old geek show is now responsible for a lot of what's coming into the Pot say music network.

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He just signed up an epita record.

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I think which includes Merrill, Merrill,

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Haggard and dude is just he's going to send me a whole list.

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Actually, he did send me a list, but I haven't.

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I want to tell you about some of the great artists that are coming into the Pot say music network.

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And it's great, you know, because as long as they own their masters,

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they can decide if they want to, you know,

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give up the one time or wave any fees for the right for podcasters to play their tombs.

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You know, it's great.

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So you can get that Candy Butcher song off of iTunes.

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The whole album is really great.

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There's a drive away, I think it is.

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And a couple of times on the show.

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And he sent me his new CD.

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And he said, you know, or he sent me a CD.

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You know, what, what should I start promoting?

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I have a listen and then he emailed me like half an hour later.

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And you guys really like that.

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That's pretty interesting.

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I didn't expect you would hold on to have a note here about the Candy Butcher.

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Let me see what this is one second.

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Hey Adam, real quick note on the Candy Butcher.

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I did the same thing.

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I heard a one accident hash, loved him.

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Turn around went to iTunes, bought the album.

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So he emailed CC and caught him right before he left for the expo.

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And he said that they were not on the PMN yet.

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And he encouraged me to email them.

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Let them know that I had heard them on accident hash.

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Try to convince in this podcasting thing.

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Really is working that it really will give them exposure.

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So just wanted to share that.

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That we need to do that for all these artists.

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Let them know that we're hearing them on podcasting.

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Let them know that it does work.

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It will increase our record sales.

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And this is the way to go.

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So I just wanted to share that with you real quick.

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That's PD love from Love House radio.

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Cool, dude.

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Thank you very much.

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We got to keep moving him because he is a working.

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Oh, this is another thing I received through through Gmail.

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I love this one.

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This is so great.

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Check this out.

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Hey Adam.

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This is Eric Skip from the Glitchcast,

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where I feature great independent artists

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and encourage them to bring their music to the pot safe music network.

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I was listening to commercial radio

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to get a feel for what our competition is doing.

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I think you might recognize the voice.

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Tonight we've got a very special.

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Long distance dedication.

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Going out from the radio industry to one Mr. Adam Curry.

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Dear Adam, we know it's been a long time since we talked.

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But there's just a few things we wanted to get off our chest.

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We've heard what you're doing.

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And frankly, we just don't get it.

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Who the heck are these artists you're playing?

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We hear they're not even paying you to play their songs.

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Second, we really wish you'd cut out all the cussing

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and blathering on about your life.

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It gives our DJ's ideas and they've got songs to play.

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Listen Adam, we'll cut you a deal.

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If you come back to us and bring your listeners,

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we'll loosen up the rules a little bit.

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Love.

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Commercial radio.

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Well, I tell you what commercial radio.

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I don't think Adam's coming back.

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But here's that long distance dedication anyway.

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This is Bruce Cox,

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with what the fuck's a podcast.

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[ Music ]

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Come here.

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Some of the best independent music on the pop-sake music network.

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The glitchcast.

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GlitchNYC.com slash glitchcast.

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I love it when everyone starts working together.

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I think I got the complete music track from cruise box to do that.

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So I'm just going to run through some Gmail stuff.

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All this is so good.

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You guys have been sending amazing stuff from TQ White.

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The second two minutes about DRM,

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the language of the RIA and the characteristics of a good file format.

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Okay.

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I'll bite.

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Let's see what he's got going on.

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Two minutes.

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That's worth the investment.

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My name is TQ White.

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I run a weblog called just kidding.com.

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And I'm a big fan of your stuff.

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Thank you.

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This morning I was listening to your discussion of the audible DRM announcement.

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And you said something that for the first time I can remember,

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jolted my conceptual consistency with your viewpoint.

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I know that as an unreconstructed hippie a few years older than you,

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we share a lot of concepts and shall we say practices.

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It came when you were considering the goods and bads of digital rights management.

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You said that something to the extent that DRM was disliked

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because it prevented people from stealing music.

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Though I totally understand that you weren't making any point about that,

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I want to caution you here.

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I don't believe it's stealing.

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Lots of people don't think it's stealing.

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I'm opposed to digital rights management because it prevents information from flowing freely.

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I love the MP3 because it can be universally accepted and used.

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I can receive, send, share, use.

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The information contained in them without restriction.

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I won't bore you with a long rant about my political theory against intellectual property,

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but there are lots of people out there that don't believe it's stealing to share music.

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That said, I like you, lot of musicians, programmers, writers, and all the other information producers

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to be rewarded.

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I just don't want to be coerced with either technical or legal means.

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I pirate everything and pay for the stuff that I like and use.

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So what's this mean to you?

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Don't join the RIA in using the language of crime to refer to the issues involved in DRM.

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Don't accuse me of theft.

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Though I personally don't believe that it can be made to work with anything less freely usable than an MP3,

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I could get behind a data format that supported additional features, tracking and so on,

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including the built-in ability for me to easily choose to send money to the author.

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Formats like audibles.AA that include digital right restriction features will never be played on my computer ever,

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and I don't believe that they'll succeed in the big picture.

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Anyway, keep up the good work.

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I think you're doing a great job.

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Best regards.

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TQ White.

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Hey, TQ, that's great.

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You hear my fan kicking out on the, oh, that was your fan on your power book.

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Wow, that was a mind-fuck.

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Okay, so that's very interesting.

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And I really appreciate the fact that you pointed out that you would be open to talking about a file format

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that allows some reporting.

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Okay, that's good.

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I had a mini epiphany last night, well here in the hotel.

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And I was thinking, now, because we can still kind of mess around with the pod safe music network before it gets, you know,

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too big and too many people are in there and you can't really reverse engineer anything.

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What if we gave the option?

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So the pod safe music network, if you register as a pod cast, you can actually download the full MP3 tracks and then play the money pod cast.

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As a listener, you can listen to any song in the pod safe music network right from your computer by clicking on the on little play button.

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So what if we enabled the pod safe music network so that the artists could enable a track to be purchased?

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Which, and the simplicity of this really really hit me right between the years last night.

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First of all, it's real easy to create, you know, a transaction e-commerce engine like that is easy.

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So you pay money.

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I'm thinking 50 cents, right?

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Let's undercut iTunes just to make the experiment interesting.

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And then any artist who's willing to participate in the experiment could just check a box next to a track that they would like to make purchaseable.

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So what that means is as a listener, you would download essentially the same track that the pod cast or downloads and gets for free.

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But of course, it's trade off because the pod cast or plays it on his or her pod cast.

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And then you pay your 50 cents and that goes to the artist.

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And it's a clear, clean MP3 file.

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I think that this would be a really interesting experiment because if it's really true that we pay for the stuff we like and we're not thieves.

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And of course, I'm not a thief.

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So I think I'm much closer to you, TQ in your philosophy than you might imagine.

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Then we should probably be able to make some good money for these artists.

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As long as you make it really simple because I think that's the beauty of iTunes is it's dadadly simple.

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And they even keep your credit card information so you can purchase at will, which is great.

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And there's a 50 cents, you know, it's a pain in the ass to pull it out your credit cards.

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Maybe just register once and then you couldn't buy any track you want.

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And our success will prove if it's worth it or not because we'll know how many times something is played.

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We can see sales results, the artists will have all this information and they can then base their future purchasing habits based upon that wouldn't be interesting.

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Wouldn't it be really, really interesting if it turned out that sales were astronomical within our little world, of course.

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We don't have JLo's yet, but that's soon to come because these podcasts are proliferating.

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There's a lot of propagation of cool tunes out there.

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Wouldn't that be really interesting? Wouldn't that just break a whole bunch of business models?

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It could break DRM.

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So maybe we say the only DRM we believe in is don't rob musicians.

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That's probably a good one. I want to try that out.

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I think it will work. I, you know what? My belief in humanity tells me it's going to work.

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Hey Adam says Chris Copeland.

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At first I bulked at the enormity of the download for DSC279.

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At first it was the pure size 101 megabytes.

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Yeah, then the bit rate, 192K that had me thinking you would flubbed it and send it out at higher than need be.

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Well, I'll be honest with you Chris. Yeah, I did flub it.

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It was my mistake, but I noticed it because I was like, wow, this upload is taking a long time.

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And that's 100 megs. What's that? That makes no sense.

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But I was already well committed in halfway through it, so I figured out whatever.

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In fact, I actually thought listening to the, to the file that maybe no one want to listen to it.

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But I felt it would probably be a good idea or it wasn't bad that it was uploaded at such a high bit rate

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because you'd get better audio than at a lower bit rate, of course.

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The audio was already quite, you know, crappy with basically the intercom system in the plane.

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So Chris Copeland said, I was wrong.

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With the audio pipe through my cars, JBLs, I felt like I was right there with you in the plane.

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The rumble of the engine caused my interior to vibrate and me with it.

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Wow, that's hot.

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The theater drew me away from the daily traffic to a plane over California as it made its way.

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The higher bit rate was worth it to have a full range of audio and be able to hear the conversation,

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the radio chatter and almost feel the turbulence right along with you guys.

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Thank you for taking me for the ride, Chris Copeland.

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Very cool, dude.

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That's excellent.

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Thank you.

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Some more feedback on that.

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Damn you, Adam, says Tom Martinek.

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There I was sitting in traffic thinking,

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bad, I had to pee.

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And you start talking about needed to go like a racer horse.

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Then you get a bottle and start letting loose,

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listening to you,

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get some much needed relief was maddening as I sat there on my car with my legs crossed.

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Have you ever tried to drive with your legs crossed?

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It's not easy.

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Damn you.

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Damn you to hell.

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And have a nice day.

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Says Tom.

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Fantastic.

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Let me see.

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Enjoyed the plane.

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I'm telling you this, it was really quite amazing to see how many people really enjoyed it.

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He felt like I was up there flying with you.

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He's no more peeing on DSC, says Cade.

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When you describe your peeing experience,

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I suddenly had to go real bad.

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I couldn't imagine you having to cut the flow in the middle of either.

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Now that was messed up.

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Let me tell you.

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That was no fun.

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Audio feedback.

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Okay.

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Let's, if it's too long or for the,

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this is actually the way that I,

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that I go through promos and feedback is by,

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basically listening to him and if they bore me,

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then they go on the,

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Yeah.

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And this is Angie B.

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I love spirals.

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We're on the Podsafe Music Network.

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I've ever wanted to give you some feedback regarding the whole BMI

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ASCAP issue,

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which you just brought up again recently this weekend.

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We're an indie band that was signed to a small label for the past 15 years.

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We sold a little over 50,000 CDs.

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So while we're not totally unknown,

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we're by no means a major label artist.

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In fact, we recently began our own label

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and we just put out a first self release CD this month.

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Now I've been hearing about the Creative Commons copyright quite a bit over the past few years.

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And I wondered if we should go that route with our new music.

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But the thing is that the BMI actually does collect and send us money.

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Of course, radio play for smaller bands.

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It doesn't really bring in any significant money.

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But if you're lucky enough to land placement in a popular TV show or commercial,

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then BMI or ASCAP can bring in hundreds of dollars per check,

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which is really great for smaller bands.

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I noticed recently that pump audio, one of the companies we worked with,

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has been advertising on Garage Band.

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And Garage Band is hooking up independent bands with Creative Commons.

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So I'm assuming that a lot of independent artists working with Creative Commons

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are now starting to license their music on TV.

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So my question to you is,

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how can bands that are in a position to make a little bit of money like this?

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Really afford to give up working with BMI or ASCAP.

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I mean Creative Commons doesn't collect money, period.

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I mean, I honestly feel stuck between a rock and a hard place right now.

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On the one hand, being a smaller band, we really need the support of podcasters.

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We're more than any major label band does.

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But on the other hand, we need to try to collect any money that comes our way.

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Even if it is through BMI, because as you said, creative people,

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such as bands and podcasters really kind of need to quit their day jobs,

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so we can continue to be more creative.

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Just to try to help out in this dilemma,

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I decided last week to update our website to include an official statement about podcasting,

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along with the free downloads that we provide.

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So there's a public record of our permission.

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Maybe other bands listen to your show should consider doing something like that too.

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And by the way, our website is lovesparals.com.

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We've got the free MP3s I mentioned, as well as our podcast.

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Chillin' with love spirals.

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So come check us out if you haven't already.

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Okay.

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First of all, you got a hell of a sexy voice.

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Let me check you out on the website.

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Love spirals.com.

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Let me see loading pictures.

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Oh, he's so cute.

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I got to twist my head all the way to the right to see you.

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He he.

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All right.

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So of course, you confuse me with a lawyer, which is unfortunate.

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I have actually looked into this.

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And it's a lot simpler than you'd think.

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So ask cap and BMI.

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They are collection agencies.

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And they collect money from more than just the broadcast industry by the way.

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They collected from bars, from elevators, hotels, and even from businesses.

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If you have a business and let's say you have a mechanic shop, a garage.

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And you have the radio on.

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You will eventually get a visit from Ask Cap and or BMI.

486
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000
I'm not quite sure who drops by.

487
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Maybe they both drop by.

488
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,000
And they'll start asking you about who you listen to.

489
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000
How often, how many people listen to it.

490
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000
And you have to pay money for that.

491
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:52,000
So the groovy thing is you own all of your stuff.

492
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,000
I presume.

493
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
So it's all yours.

494
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
So you can license this.

495
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,000
Anyway, you want to anybody in any manner.

496
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,000
So signing up with Ask Cap BMI is not a license.

497
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:11,000
That is a, it's basically, you copyright your work with the US copyright office.

498
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000
All that information is on the BMI and Ask Cap websites, by the way.

499
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000
I think costs 35 bucks and doesn't matter.

500
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,000
You can send like 10 tracks at once and it only costs 35 dollars.

501
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,000
And you copyright it.

502
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000
So that is your work.

503
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000
And then you sign up with Ask Cap BMI.

504
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000
I don't think, one of them doesn't have a fee, I think.

505
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000
But so anyway, you sign up.

506
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000
And then you're in their database.

507
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:40,000
And whenever your name pops up for an air play either on radio or TV or, you know,

508
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000
and then of course they have these huge complicated structures.

509
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Well, we're figuring that if you were played three times on a radio station,

510
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000
you might have hit an elevator once or something.

511
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,000
I don't know how they do it.

512
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,000
It's all mumbo, jumbo.

513
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
They try to explain it.

514
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,000
They will then send you a check.

515
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,000
So when you register with the pod safe music network at music.podshow.com,

516
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,000
you're basically handing out a different license to a different set of people.

517
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:09,000
The podcasters, essentially by clicking OK, sign that agreement and agree to,

518
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,000
to the terms as set out in, in the terms at the PMN.

519
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000
So that doesn't mean, and in fact,

520
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,000
it states there that it's yours and that no performance license or royalty or anything

521
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000
will have to be paid.

522
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,000
And that's a license only to those people who are a member of the pod safe music network.

523
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,000
It's really simple.

524
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,000
So you could license it anyway you want with any terms you want to anybody.

525
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,000
Now, as it, I'm not, again, I'm not a lawyer,

526
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000
and you should really talk to Larry Lessick about the creative common stuff.

527
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,000
But I'm pretty sure that if you put it up under creative commons,

528
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,000
that you can still license it to ask happened BMI.

529
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,000
It shouldn't be a problem.

530
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,000
In fact, I encourage that because if your music is used in that manner,

531
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,000
in a broadcast or public performance, then of course you should get compensated.

532
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:06,000
Now, when it comes to TV shows, that's a little different because that's a synchronization fee or a sync right.

533
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,000
And I think you can basically call the shots on that.

534
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Because they will have to contact you.

535
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000
They would use it for a commercial.

536
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,000
And again, I'm not a lawyer, so I could have this wrong.

537
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:28,000
But I think that, you know, look, the basis of everything is that it's your stuff.

538
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,000
And if you want to license it to me for free and to ABC for $10,000,

539
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,000
that's up to you.

540
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,000
That is up to you.

541
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000
And I encourage it.

542
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000
And I'm really, really happy you sent me that email.

543
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000
I really appreciate it.

544
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:49,000
You guys would like to try out the experiment with the free and clear MP3 for purchase.

545
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Wouldn't that be interesting?

546
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Gosh, I really want to check that out.

547
00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Okay, I think I'm about ready for some more songs.

548
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000
Let me just go through some more Gmail here.

549
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
See what I can find.

550
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000
Hi, good people of Pod Show.

551
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Man, I'm just looking for some, for some action here.

552
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,000
I tag everything with the, not yet another comment about what is about the expo

553
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,000
and Pod Safe Music from James B.

554
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000
Okay, James B, I'll bite.

555
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
Let's see what you got cooking here.

556
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,000
I have to look it up, transferring data.

557
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,000
Just playing quick time.

558
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,000
I ask this is James from JamesB.com producer of Navalcast.

559
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Oh, of course.

560
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,000
I'm just getting home from the portable media expo and wanted to send you a comment.

561
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,000
The expo was great.

562
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000
My wife and I enjoyed it very much.

563
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,000
My wife who is an elementary school teacher commented that she had never been to a conference,

564
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,000
where there was a line to the men's restroom, but not to the women's.

565
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,000
Hopefully next year there's enough women podcasters that they have to stand in line as well.

566
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,000
It's unfortunate that I didn't get to meet you, but I met a lot of friendly fellow podcasters.

567
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,000
Regarding the recent talk about Pod Safe Music, one of the messages I took away from the conference,

568
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,000
is an understanding that there's no good way to play R.I.W.A. licensed music.

569
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,000
With that in mind, I too am changing my show format to be entirely pod safe.

570
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,000
My past episodes have featured clips of licensed music to punctuate the stories I tell.

571
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,000
I'll be editing them to make my past episodes pod safe.

572
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:27,000
I commend you and PW for your move to pod safe music and encourage other podcasters to do the same.

573
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,000
In addition, like PW indicated in his most recent digital flotsom,

574
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:37,000
I am going to do my part to support pod safe artists by only buying music from those that support pod safe music.

575
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Why spend our time and money on an industry that is held bent on suing their customers?

576
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,000
When we have talented artists that are willing to work with us, thanks talk to you later.

577
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Dude, thank you very much.

578
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:56,000
While you were talking, I was going into my playlist here at the pod safe music network,

579
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:06,000
where I was, for instance, I was listening to pod show music rewind episode number eight from the pool side at the expo.

580
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000
It was funny.

581
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Guys, they're a riot man.

582
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000
Brother love dropping by, big mayhem.

583
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000
It just sounded so good.

584
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,000
You know, I've learned and we did a lot of stuff at the expo.

585
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,000
We had mad running around, Dawn and Drew did at least one show,

586
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:26,000
a magic, a million shows, I did a show, a Michael Butler did a show,

587
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,000
almost every one of the pod safe music network did something,

588
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,000
if not together, then they did it individually.

589
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,000
And I've learned that even though the content sometimes,

590
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,000
certainly the mad stuff was a bit over the top to say the least,

591
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,000
but just looking at it, you kind of did get the feeling,

592
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,000
oh man, I wish I could be there, and I heard a lot of that from people,

593
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,000
so that to me usually means that we did a good job at making some of the expo come alive

594
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
of those pretty cool.

595
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Okay, so here's the song that I heard on the pod safe music network,

596
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000
where the hell would it go?

597
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Oh, don't you hate it when that happens?

598
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:10,000
I'm here like, I'm staring at my desktop and can't find it.

599
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Okay, let's go window, no tools, downloads.

600
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,000
No, it should, I could just click open, there we go.

601
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,000
This is, okay, this is from Epita Records, I guess,

602
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,000
so this is one of the one of those cool bands that have been added to the PMN.

603
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,000
This is Danger Doom and Mint's Meat.

604
00:35:33,750 --> 00:37:58,750
[ Music ]

605
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000
anyway,

606
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,000
you don't get a lot of wrap hip-hop,

607
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000
rmb from the pod safe music network

608
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000
that I really like about this.

609
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Yeah,

610
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,000
and I keep the hand擊,

611
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000
it sounds good,

612
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,000
sound in it really,

613
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000
but I like it.

614
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000
Homers.podshow.com

615
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000
is where you can upload your promo to me,

616
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,000
feedback,

617
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,000
you can still probably send through Gmail.

618
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,640
You can also put it up there. It's really cool because I've set it up as a as a

619
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,640
You know the RSS feed is a pod cast

620
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,760
So I can just basically open up. I'm using iTunes for that open that up, but you know

621
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,760
Oh geez, I must have at least

622
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,200
Oh, it looks like I have 30 or 40 different promos in there. So we listen to a couple of them just to see

623
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,480
Yeah, and and of course this the same rules apply if I get bored or if it sucks

624
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,880
Then I'll just go move on to the next one

625
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:59,520
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626
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627
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628
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629
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,800
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630
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631
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632
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633
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634
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:44,960
That's a counterpoint. It's a podcast. It's a blog. It's a complete mental health program

635
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,560
I like it. I like it. I would definitely check that one out. Okay

636
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,880
Onto the next one here

637
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,040
Oh, that's interesting. Oh, of course. It's a podcast. I mean, why would it play the next episode automatically?

638
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,920
Oh, sorry. That's the same one. Here we go. Yeah, I'd cast that brings you the latest news

639
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640
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641
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642
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643
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644
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:45,600
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645
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646
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647
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Which I got from pod show rewind. Graining. I think this was uh, track the CC Chapman shows.

648
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,640
Love this song. Sex in the box on your dating source good.

649
00:41:16,250 --> 00:44:26,250
[ Music ]

650
00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:32,460
I would, I would. I would, real life

651
00:44:32,460 --> 00:44:37,460
If I could, I would, real life

652
00:44:37,460 --> 00:44:43,860
I wonder it, there's probably a lot of the Johnson Johnson people probably listen to this show because now they're like, oh, I don't want a second

653
00:44:43,860 --> 00:44:48,660
Let me go check out what that guy's talking about and since I'm here in Seattle

654
00:44:48,660 --> 00:44:56,060
I mean you can't be in Seattle even if it's just for 18 hours and not play a promo about a Seattle podcast

655
00:44:56,060 --> 00:44:58,460
No, that would be a travesty no, no, no, no

656
00:44:59,580 --> 00:45:02,620
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657
00:45:02,620 --> 00:45:11,020
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658
00:45:11,020 --> 00:45:29,220
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659
00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:35,620
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660
00:45:39,620 --> 00:45:44,620
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661
00:45:44,620 --> 00:45:51,620
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662
00:45:52,620 --> 00:45:58,620
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663
00:45:58,620 --> 00:46:03,620
Cool, I'm going to subscribe to that. I'll be great for the plane ride home. I love the jazz

664
00:46:03,620 --> 00:46:11,620
So in closing today email from Heather Bowler from initiative.com

665
00:46:11,620 --> 00:46:18,620
A funny thing happened on the way to the forum. I went to a presentation this morning by someone who looked remarkably like a kind gentleman

666
00:46:18,620 --> 00:46:22,620
Who got some hotel staff jumping to let me back in my room last night

667
00:46:22,620 --> 00:46:27,620
Many thanks had no idea who you are, but now I do presentation was great

668
00:46:27,620 --> 00:46:32,620
I publish a quarterly magazine for advertiser clients and we're writing a feature on podcasting in the next issue

669
00:46:32,620 --> 00:46:36,620
If I send you our details could be interview you regards Heather Bowler will of course

670
00:46:36,620 --> 00:46:39,620
Heather now that may have sounded a little bit weird

671
00:46:39,620 --> 00:46:43,620
But this was when I we were checking in last night around quarter to ten

672
00:46:43,620 --> 00:46:47,620
And she'd locked herself out of a room and had a credit card, but it wasn't her credit card

673
00:46:47,620 --> 00:46:51,620
Didn't have her name on it, so it was but anyway, so I

674
00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:56,620
I told the when the the check in the desk clerk said anything else I can do

675
00:46:56,620 --> 00:46:59,620
Yes, please please let this young lady back in her room

676
00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:04,620
And so it happened okay

677
00:47:04,620 --> 00:47:09,620
I'm still using the Heil microphone by the way. I love this mic. This is great

678
00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:11,620
It sounds wonderful

679
00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:18,620
Ron heard the switch the mics switch as well on the Saturday podcast and he's a real audio file

680
00:47:18,620 --> 00:47:24,620
And he said it sounded pretty damn good too. Yeah, this is good and someone sent me an email about the Heil stuff

681
00:47:24,620 --> 00:47:26,620
Let me see I saw that coming today

682
00:47:27,620 --> 00:47:34,620
Some super star celebrity works with it. Here we go Nate doer doer doer

683
00:47:34,620 --> 00:47:40,620
Just catching up on Delta Sierra Charlie to seven eight heard you mention it

684
00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:44,620
You got a free Heil sound mic Bob Heil makes very nice stuff

685
00:47:44,620 --> 00:47:48,620
Ah Joe Wall Schwartz with Bob regularly doing promotion of his mics and gear

686
00:47:48,620 --> 00:47:52,620
Okay, yeah, there you go. Well, if it's good for Joe damn it's good for us wouldn't you say

687
00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:57,620
So again, it's promo dot pod show dot com please

688
00:47:58,620 --> 00:48:04,620
Feel free you got a register, but that's not just a email address and you make up a password and then you can

689
00:48:05,620 --> 00:48:09,620
Post something about your promo and if you want you can attach

690
00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:17,620
Or just a post a link in there which points to an MP3 file and then it would you will be guaranteed that I'm going to hear it

691
00:48:17,620 --> 00:48:23,620
Because it plops into a nice little playlist in my iTunes, which is extremely nice now it would be great if we could

692
00:48:23,620 --> 00:48:28,620
Sign off with our signature sound which of course

693
00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:33,620
I don't have

694
00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:36,620
Shoot I don't have my pod show sign off thingy

695
00:48:36,620 --> 00:48:39,620
Ah, that sucks. Okay, we'll do it this way. Hey everybody

696
00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:44,620
Please save me from people who've been told what to like and then like it

697
00:48:44,620 --> 00:48:50,620
In my opinion if you're over six years of age and you're still getting your music from the radio

698
00:48:50,620 --> 00:48:53,620
Something is desperately wrong with you

699
00:48:53,620 --> 00:49:02,620
I can only hope that somehow MP3 players and file sharing will destroy FM radio the way they're destroying record companies

700
00:49:02,620 --> 00:49:09,620
Then even though the air will probably never be safe to breathe again, maybe it will be safer to listen to