1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,640 Good morning, Adam, Darrell's Chanderow here from blindaccessjournal.com. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:15,440 Hey, just listen to DSC number two, nine, or one, and notice the missing introductory 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:21,640 heading for the podcast and the explanation as to why you may that change. 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,640 I sincerely hope that you will change it back. 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:33,360 I am a blind podcaster and blind listener, and I really, really, really miss that heading. 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:40,240 Verbaly telling me, as I come to your podcast, what, in fact, it is. 7 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:50,720 Many of us, myself included, formatted the beginning of our shows, 8 00:00:50,720 --> 00:01:02,880 by using DSC as a model, thus the show title and the show number, and really, please, 9 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:19,600 do not stop that, I'm not able to simply upgrade my eyes to working models, and so upgrading 10 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:25,280 from a shuffle from an iPod shuffle to something else would not help a blind listener. 11 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:31,600 Also, other reasons, you know, a lot of people listen to these podcasts while 12 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:37,200 commuting to work in their cars, wouldn't want to have an accident because somebody was 13 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:43,040 messing around with their MP3 player looking at it to see which podcast they're listening to, 14 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:48,720 while the same time trying to drive, so a lot of things to consider there, please, please, please, 15 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:56,400 do go back to Delta Sierra Charlie, do 9 or 2, and so on and so forth, please, please don't, 16 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:02,800 don't stop, don't stop doing that, okay, please do us a favor there. Thank you, 17 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,640 keep up the great work, this is Dale Shandra with blindaxisjournal.com, bye bye. 18 00:02:18,750 --> 00:04:23,750 [ Music ] 19 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,280 everybody how you doing welcome it's daily source code it is episode number 20 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:44,000 two ninety two and today is Tuesday just got back from London town with my 21 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:52,640 bride thanks to I was it I forget it was a Darren was a Darrell oh man oh 22 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,760 and I have to go check it again the morning at him Darrell Chandler here 23 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:01,360 Darrell alright Darrell got a couple more comments about the voice tags pretty 24 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,360 much similar to what you just heard oh no tags it's not about iPod shuffle 25 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,360 datum it's about not needing to look at the display whether you're in a car or 26 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,960 just jogging it's much better to hear it like it's great because you can do 27 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,160 something else while getting that information please put the tags back thanks 28 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:22,080 says grug okay gotcha check mark I just thought I'd change something makes 29 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:27,280 sound different but now that I think of it it really is kind of important I 30 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:30,880 guess if you're driving doing other stuff so we had a really good time in 31 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,160 in London we left the early this morning all 10th already that's pretty early 32 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,320 for us to be dressed in out the door outside of need taking Christina to school 33 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:44,320 of course yeah I get up and I'm ready to go alright no no work needed it was really nice 34 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:49,440 we took the train to Waterloo Station Patricia and then we hopped in a cab 35 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,320 person went to herids oh man is that place amazing or water Christmas it's just 36 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:01,680 it's a it's paradise it's beautiful and there's no mad Christmas rush yet I mean I 37 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,160 have not been in London the week before Christmas but it seemed like everyone's kind of 38 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,520 chilling out a lot of stuff was already sold out though people are doing Christmas shopping 39 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,960 early this year in at least at herids then we went over to bond street region street 40 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:21,840 Oxford street no region street and bond street and new bond street and James street 41 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,480 well we walked all over the place and I really I'm not looking for anything I said hey 42 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,760 if we happen to be in region street we might want to stop in the apple store but somehow Patricia 43 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:37,360 successfully steered us away from that that of course would be my version of porn man I witnessed 44 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:46,000 a lot of women porn today just uddles of bags and and bling and shoes and of course the new 45 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,560 thing is these high really tight calf you know boots that go around your calf really tight and 46 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,880 and I said to Patricia I said dude this is porn this is just this women's porn this is what it is 47 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,840 it's just amazing all the fragrances and hadn't been in department store with her in a long time 48 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:06,000 at least not one where I kind of let her loose and just tagged along behind it was nice you know 49 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,720 I had a nice little buzz going so I'm just tripping along and it was really it was pretty cool it was 50 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:16,000 good to be in the city just good to get out and good to be alone the two of us just Patricia me 51 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:22,800 and the blackberry yesterday there was news all over the place even the BBC reported about it 52 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:29,440 about this outfit called the association of independent I think it's musicians they call it aane 53 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:35,040 which I think is kind of unfortunate because that in my mind is associated with ale instant messenger 54 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:42,160 um here it is the association of independent music is selling six month worldwide licensed deals 55 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:49,200 for its members music to be used on download radio programs great guys the headline is 56 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,720 indie music available to podcasts so I've been I've been watching their site diligently up until the 57 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:00,080 time that I started doing the show today there've been no official announcement on on the aim website 58 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:07,520 which is indie music dot com but they are really you know I it's it feels a little fishy to me you know 59 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:13,040 they they pop the news the BBC publishes everything except of course exact details because it will 60 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:20,080 be a four pay license and as the as this BBC story says at least and it will also be a limited time 61 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,080 license so I don't know what that means I mean we have to delete the show after six months how much will 62 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:31,360 it cost I'm all for for paying to play you know that's absolutely you know problem some of the 63 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:36,400 artists included our block party stereophonics the white stripes the strokes basement jacks Paul 64 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:42,320 Weller Arctic Monkeys I recognize at least three of those names Richard Thompson Billy Bragg 65 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,240 so that would be very cool but I I really would like to see the details and I'm a little 66 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,600 disappointed that you know they have this heat going and people were talking about it for a second 67 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,240 there and and there's you know they haven't released the entire license I have a feeling that 68 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,360 maybe someone talked a little bit before they were ready to go to market with it all which uh 69 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:07,440 it's unfortunate but we'll keep our eye on it um something else happened here um by the way this is 70 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:15,040 UK organization I should point out it's uh organization of uh UK independent record labels and yesterday 71 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:21,040 the uh Ricky Jervais podcast launched Ricky Jervais if you don't know who that is he's the boss 72 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:29,040 in the British version of the office and all of a sudden and actually the it kind of been 73 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,280 bubbling under for a while I think what I don't know if he actually he says he's not getting paid for it 74 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:40,320 but it's being launched by the guardian newspaper uh who do lots of uh actually lots of music licensing 75 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:46,960 deals very often the the UK tabloids the newspapers will include a CD um with golden oldies or 76 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:52,080 whatever you know they have a two-volume set so you get one on Saturday and you get one on Sunday I think 77 00:09:52,640 --> 00:10:00,320 yeah um and so this uh Ricky Jervais podcast um was uh or as being promoted through the guardian 78 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:07,760 online guardian.co.uk I was man I was really disappointed first of all I'm a big fan of Ricky Jervais 79 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:13,040 but when he's doing the writing himself or when he's not writing what he's just talking um your 80 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,280 expectation is very high you know you're like oh this is gonna be great and he's supposedly had 81 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:25,920 two of his I was best friend writer comedians on and um it didn't do anything for me um which is 82 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,840 okay because maybe I have to listen to a couple of episodes and he has to come into his own but 83 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,000 I don't know if you know that he used to do a lot of radio work and it almost sounded like he he just 84 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:42,400 went right back into his BBC radio mode there um so it didn't really compel that much although 85 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,480 they he was very loose and the guys were very loose it you know just kind of talking and shooting 86 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:52,240 the shit so I did appreciate that but what was disappointing is that Ricky was interviewed um on 87 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:58,880 ITS I'm on ITV on the afternoon chat show and there were some repeats in the BBC also um 88 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:05,520 ran a couple of pieces I think during the news and um you know Ricky was sitting there saying well you 89 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,720 know it's so easy even I even I configured out you just to go to a guardian.co.uk and you click and you 90 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:16,240 listen I was like oh man couldn't someone to brief them a little bit or prepped him just a little just 91 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,560 so it's funny because now the BBC is saying it's the new thing it's podcasting 92 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:28,400 well the where's the BBC actually were the first mainstream media outlet to jump on the whole idea 93 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,360 and bring it uh to attention of the masses when the culture show I think uh interviewing the 94 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:39,440 in Belgium we were still at the castle so uh they should have an internal Wikipedia so they know 95 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:44,640 what they've talked about in the past so Ricky Javez podcasting uh good to have a big name come in 96 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,920 unfortunate that um we couldn't have helped him a little bit with being able to explain what it is 97 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,720 and what the what the real big you know what the real cool things are he did have a lot of it though he 98 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:00,080 said you know the freedom is great even though he has a lot of freedom with the BBC um but nothing 99 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:06,000 really about the convenience of it automatically being delivered to your iPod so that was uh that was 100 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:12,160 too bad but uh I'll give it a I'm subscribed so I'll give it another couple of listens and see if 101 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,000 if anything cool pops up he just has to kind of slip out of the mainstream mode a little bit 102 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:21,440 hey uh special little feature here we have the strange accents now on the daily source code 103 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:28,640 hey Adam this is Boris Kojirski from PositivenessAchishay podcast I'm making a new episode about radio 104 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:38,000 what it was and what it is now I would like you to give an opinion for my listeners what was so 105 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:46,240 valuable that disappeared and doesn't exist in the radio anymore thanks in advance and best wishes for 106 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:52,240 all your podcasts whose to part notion of free communication between people yes Boris I will have 107 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:57,120 the secret code delivered to you or fired a usual means Boris where are you from Ben you sound like 108 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:05,200 you're from Russia Boris well what was it it was so valuable um a good question you big 109 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,600 would he everyone can listen at the same time I think those were valuable things but what we really 110 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:14,640 lost clearly and people say this all the time but I really do believe in it we lost the passion we lost 111 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:20,640 the not everywhere not every show not every radio station but I think we in general lost a lot of 112 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:26,160 passion we forgot so much about what you can do with audio we've it's almost like for a while 113 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:32,080 there we believe that iPods really only were from music and you know we then we started to find out 114 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,720 you could do other things with your iPod so the same goes with podcasting there's other things 115 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,640 you can do there's other things you can do with audio I hope to show you some of that very soon 116 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,640 we're working on a couple of shows that we're putting together specifically for podcasting that are 117 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:55,360 really not the typical podcast that you would hear working on that with Mark I was your motor 118 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:01,920 name call I said his name right I shouldn't do that too often feeds his ego way too much so we had 119 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:09,680 Boris from Russia and then in comes Alex and Alex is from Germany and he's he calls himself 120 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,120 just a regular listener but he's been doing some pretty pretty interesting work over there 121 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:20,560 hi Adam this is Alex from Munich Germany and I want to share with you some short insights 122 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:27,840 on the German podcast listener if you want to I'm doing a podcast so called come you team intro 123 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,440 with focus on podcasting trends and business marketing and communication since beginning of the year 124 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:44,480 which is available on www.pimpmybrain.de but sorry to say that it's only German spoken 125 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:53,840 last October I did a survey on the German podcast listener to learn a little bit more about their age 126 00:14:53,840 --> 00:15:00,640 the gender family status the so called social demographic data and also to learn about their 127 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:08,240 needs experience regarding podcasts and the use of podcasting in general so now as I mentioned 128 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:15,440 in my mail here's the pot far the summary the 30 year old mail mostly well educated and wealthy 129 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:21,040 podcast listener looks forward to a 20 minute weekly entertaining and informative podcast 130 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,960 which he's willing to pay for euros for per month or accepts topic related advertising 131 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:37,040 he listens 3.6 hours a week and subscribe to 8 podcasts although there are only 11 132 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:43,520 percent women listening they listen 20 percent more intensive to podcasts up to the age of 30 133 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:52,960 and 25 percent less intensive above the age of 30 than their mail counterparts so um you can see 134 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:58,240 we got two very interesting target groups listening to podcasts over here in Germany the one is 135 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:04,000 male intelligent and the wealthy the others female young and looks for earbird entertaining 136 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,800 sorry to say that there are only 38 percent female singers but 50 percent male but them 137 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:16,960 that doesn't count anyway I think we are glad about every listener tuning into the 138 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:23,600 evolution of communication you can I think you can find more details on the results of the survey 139 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:32,240 on my weblog pimpmybrain.de as mentioned and I will provide a link to the English translated results over there 140 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:39,200 now that's it from Munich thanks for having me on your show and Merry Christmas to everybody out there 141 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:48,480 in the potosphere. Throlic of Inahtin hey did it it's pretty interesting um 38 percent women 30 142 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:56,160 affluent did I hear him say good looking to good looking German chicks oh that's pretty cool I guess 143 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,320 he did the survey amongst just online so it's kind of like an opt-in thing and there's all 144 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,720 bunch of statisticians who will tell you how good that is or not but it sounds about right it certainly 145 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:13,040 I think there's also how man there's there has to be such a huge Latin market that we haven't 146 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:18,880 reached yet this uh I'm hearing a couple of countries really bubbling up where podcasting is starting 147 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,960 to work the UK by the way is um I think was a little slower to catch on but um and there may be 148 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:30,960 less that is for this satisfaction with with the radio here but uh I it's just I get so much 149 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,760 male from UK podcast listeners and and we're thinking of starting a podcast and a lot of it 150 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:41,600 revolves around music then we have friends I think basically you can say any country um and maybe 151 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:49,760 this is even a part of it think about it both friends um and Canada uh I know have rules about how 152 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:55,120 much national product has to be played on the radio so I'm talking about music in this case um 153 00:17:55,120 --> 00:18:01,360 and I think that they're quite high so there's not a lot of um not a lot of Britney Spears 154 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:06,560 or maybe that's the one uh you know the 20% they can play that's foreign and god imagine all 155 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,520 being Britney Spears so I think it's pretty obvious that podcasting will grow rapidly in uh in 156 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:17,840 countries like that in Germany I don't know if they have commercial um radio stations I somehow I 157 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,480 don't think so they certainly have a lot of big public infrastructure both for television and for 158 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:28,560 radio so I think that that'll be a country where it uh where it'll definitely start bubbling up and 159 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:36,320 there was something interesting in your in your survey there um Kurt was it Kurt Alex why does it 160 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,400 Kurt Alex there was something interesting in your uh in your survey where you said that women 161 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:47,120 listen more intensely and I was thinking about that the other day this you know when someone listens 162 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:53,280 to a podcast uh let's just say radio versus podcast but I think that when you actually have the 163 00:18:53,280 --> 00:19:00,560 earbuds stuck in your ears and you're thus blocking out all um all external noise I think there's 164 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:06,400 there is going to be almost an automatic much higher intensity of listening when you're doing 165 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,480 that versus listening in the radio on the speakers now I know a lot of people listen to podcasts either 166 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:17,280 with uh you know one of those wires that you hook up from your iPod to a Yucacet player lots of 167 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,720 people burn CDs in fact I've kind of gotten the habit of that I'd like it now that I 168 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,280 didn't know that CDs were that cheap they'd got really really cheap I bought a hundred CDs 169 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:32,800 for nine pounds no boxes just one of those cylinders and so uh you know it I've always 170 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:38,160 it's always been difficult for me to toss a mouse you know it's like oh well yeah I'll keep it I'll 171 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,920 just store it I'll file it like I'm ever gonna look at it again at least now I've gotten to the habit 172 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:48,240 of writing down with the she's been saying oh writing down with the felt stiff pin exactly what it 173 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:54,800 is uh that's on the task but I do believe that that intensity it just has to be much much more 174 00:19:54,800 --> 00:20:01,680 when you have the shit sticking in your ears which I think uh well what do I think well I don't know 175 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:08,320 what I think it's good I guess it is good so um Germany keep it coming I've seen a lot of 176 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:14,960 uh German podcasts ping ping dot indie potter dot com to which an indie potter dot org that's kind of 177 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,760 interesting so there is uh there's definitely a German community seeing the French community we have 178 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:26,960 the pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom podcast and a couple other ones from France and congratulations 179 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:32,880 to everybody's favorite bloated Jewish angry lesbian Madge Weiss and Weinstein celebrating 180 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:38,240 her first year of yeast I think it today could have been yesterday if so then I'm sorry Madge the 181 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:44,080 present came a little bit late but um happy to uh still be able to listen to you every single day 182 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:49,520 love the aggregator by the way that whole qpotter dot org that the Madge set up is just phenomenal 183 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:55,280 and the aggregator is a video podcast aggregator that is just phenomenal you know I um through that 184 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,840 I found uh have you ever seen daily planet TV Lucien? I have no idea what is set up is but it's 185 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:08,400 a daily planet TV dot net and I I watch them religiously as a short video podcast which really works 186 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,280 for me four or five minutes but he has this super super imposed thing going and it's completely 187 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:19,520 self supported and he's starting video clips and he's showing you um pictures I'd love to know how 188 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:25,120 I put that together I'm thinking that he does some of that imposed or in post production I'm not sure 189 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:32,400 but um what he's got going there is very cool is basically a one-man television shop so uh Lucien 190 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:42,160 give it up man what's the secret how does it work and um a lot of talk about Wikipedia so it seems 191 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:49,120 now that after uh several disputes and heated debates over Wikipedia dot org that the rules are 192 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:54,880 now changing I read actually yeah and I'm not sure what the definitive rules are by now there's so 193 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:00,240 many uh threads going on about this but I read somewhere that um it is uh I think actually read 194 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:07,440 on Wikipedia dot org that it is frowned upon to edit your own bio like that doesn't make any sense 195 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:13,040 I read something in my own bio yesterday which I didn't start on Wikipedia that said that um 196 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,000 I registered MTV dot com in the early days of the web well no that's not true I registered it before 197 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,880 there was a web there was only go for and I set up the go for server in fact the university of 198 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:31,120 Minnesota um who developed the the go for protocol uh at the time this is a this is an old story 199 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:35,920 I think I've told this before at the time um they said hey look you know you're using this uh 200 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,440 this mtv dot com that's commercial I said I'm not making any money off it it's only cost some 201 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,400 you money well we still think that you should pay for commercial license which at the time was $5,000 202 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,280 like dude uh uh uh uh first I don't even think I had the money at the time so I don't have five 203 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,480 brand to just spend on a license and you know what am I doing here I'm not using a commercial 204 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,800 manner and so they talked it over and this was really the first time that someone you know outside 205 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:04,160 of academia had used the go for protocol I guess I guess I can't be too sure but it's certainly 206 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:09,520 seem like it was new to them and then we finally struck a deal and the somewhere someone has a picture 207 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,880 of this I know it's online we struck a deal that um if I wore a go for a minis you know university 208 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,640 minis sold a go for t-shirt on mtv that they would uh wave the license fee and of course I did it 209 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,440 uh if you have a picture of that that'll be great I'd love to see that again but now it does seem like 210 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,480 the rules are changing another article that someone sent me is that uh one of those two I think 211 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:36,080 I guess there's two guys who uh who co-founded wikipedia and apparently one of the co-founders has 212 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:42,880 many many edits uh to his record of editing the history of wikipedia uh at which many points 213 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,560 he's edited his co-founder out and this just brings me to the only thing that uh is really 214 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:54,000 been on my mind is what is the truth you know the truth is I don't know if there really is a 215 00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:00,240 truth for anything I've I've noticed so many times that um you know even with my wife you know 216 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,960 we'll be talking about something I'll totally believe that that we were talking about the discussion 217 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:10,880 from one uh point of view a mine of course because I'm the center of my universe and she's the 218 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,360 center of her universe although she's much better at making herself not the center of the universe 219 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,440 um and you know but then you'll find out like oh wait a minute you told it to 220 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,920 understand what I was talking about or or something that'll happen and and I'll recount the events 221 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,560 one way and she'll recount it another way and for her that's the absolute truth and for me it's the 222 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,600 absolute truth you know but there's so much that you don't pay attention to if it's usually 223 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:39,840 if it's not about you you're not gonna you know notice things is quickly so although I uh I think that 224 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,920 there will be an interesting process that comes out of this I you know just saying this is the 225 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:49,920 truth and this is the way it is it's a real tough one man it really is so the rules are changing 226 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:56,160 and uh I guess that proves that for every uh action there's uh there's a complete uh equal and 227 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,640 opposite reactions I guess it was good I think this is all the good thing that maybe we'll figure 228 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:06,960 out how we make the Wikipedia actually work uh because I do use it often but you know or I used to 229 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:13,040 use it often and it is a great resource and you know I think in general uh lots of stuff that's in 230 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,240 there is it's pretty much the way it went or the way it was or how it's supposed to be for every one 231 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,280 of the 850 thousand articles but still what is the absolute truth I think that's that's something 232 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:31,920 really hard um I think the really um yeah what is truth I guess uh uh you can only get truth in 233 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:38,320 mathematics then I presume or physics I guess I should have paid more attention in school 234 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:44,320 hey monk remember him from uh invasion of the pod people well he uh sent something to me 235 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,760 which I'd like to share with you right now I'm pretty sure if it's not in the pod safe music 236 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:54,640 network well he will be putting it up he says I really like that the pod safe release 237 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,040 Christmas tune but let me give you something to really rock your brain too huh just stocking 238 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,040 on monk on the daily source code 239 00:26:03,750 --> 00:28:12,240 [ Music ] 240 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:29,360 you're stuck in on yeah that's a Christmas gift right there 241 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:34,880 you hear that? there's damn foxes again I'm telling you it's funny I said that the foxes were 242 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,680 coming closer to civilization last week on the show and I got an email from someone who said 243 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,600 they're not interesting it didn't civilization move into their neck of the woods first 244 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:51,920 I'm like yeah I guess so but without the excuse me oh man I still have that little bit of the 245 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:59,200 cough Patricia got the cold now she's completely stuffed up without the fox hunts the foxes 246 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,560 fox eye the foxes have just come much closer to us now and they rummage through the garbage man 247 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,160 it's funny though because foxes are really afraid of humans they're afraid of even 248 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,880 dogs and well dogs depends on how big but they're afraid of cats and I think if they can eat 249 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,040 trash they'll eat trash but they eat worms and nuts and stuff like that it's not exactly 250 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,440 what you think of foxes would be into it's not you know foxes do not regularly it's must be 251 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,560 some kind of fable but from everything I've read it's not like the fox gets into the henhouse 252 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,520 and then eats them all up they're afraid of everything everything that jumps and bounces the fox 253 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:40,320 will run away from um yeah there's anything I can ask on this show and I immediately get 254 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:47,920 so many cool comments um I talked about oh the crackling fire log that's what it was 255 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:56,880 and I got a link here let me see it's uh this is about something called the java log 256 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:07,040 coffee based log burns cleaner but no Starbucks smell so apparently uh there is a biofriendly 257 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:14,560 log the java log that is made of primarily coffee beans and produces 85% less carbon monoxide 258 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,840 okay that's not a big deal I mean that'll kill ya but only if you have the windows closed 259 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:27,920 last year and within 2 million java logs were sold okay I haven't found a place to buy them 260 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:34,320 over here in the UK but I'll definitely have a look around I'll try it up just to clarify something 261 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,880 I you know not we bought the curry cruiser people are saying that you know I pretended to be a 262 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:44,480 greenie and I turned out it turns out I'm not well I'm not really the biodiesel thing is just an 263 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,200 experiment I'd really like to try hey it is kind of catching on by the way this biodiesel thing 264 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:55,280 I'm here in all kinds of you know good good noise from all over the world Volkswagen 265 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:02,160 their next cars will all be certified to run on biodiesel albeit only 5% biodiesel but still they'll 266 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:11,440 run on it there's been some reports of more efficient ways to create biodiesel efficiency of 267 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:18,880 10 to 15% or times 10 or 15 times more efficient in the production of biodiesel biodiesel fuels 268 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,160 so I totally intend on getting and I have a parking space at the condo in San Francisco unused 269 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,440 so if if you're in San Francisco and you have a diesel I don't care what kind of diesel it is 270 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,040 you know it probably the older the crappier the better I would like to buy it from you if it's 271 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,560 for sale and I'm talking about something that just drives right it's got to be street legal or 272 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:47,200 you know whatever it has to kind of work but I definitely I'm looking for something that we can 273 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:53,040 just fill up with vegetable oil see how it runs we'll put some big pod show stickers on it yeah 274 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,960 yeah I'll drive that cool and also if you have and here's this is a this is another very serious 275 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,120 request and I know there's lots of graphic designers who listen to this show and maybe 276 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:08,320 comic-strick blogger could even help with this one you know when Christina got was it was going to 277 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,920 get her tattoo which of course I was against and Patricia said oh well you know let her do whatever 278 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,680 she wants to do it's it's the kids these days I said wow what are you talking about it's a tattoo 279 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:26,160 dude she's 15 so I lost that battle usually I I do pretty well on the field but I said look if you're 280 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,560 going to get one then I'm going to get one and so I've been thinking for a long time about what kind of 281 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,920 tattoo I want to get and I was thinking maybe a combination of like wings you know like pilots 282 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,760 wings and for my for my upper arm right I like my shoulder or my my ample biceps 283 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,120 pilots wings I don't know what you're going in the in the middle though you know so I kind of want 284 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:52,560 to represent my passions there so flying and then a microphone would be cheesy but maybe something 285 00:32:52,560 --> 00:33:00,240 that represents you know media or free media or podcasting or whatever it is you know if you 286 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,280 haven't even thought let me know because I'm really looking for some designs at this point I'm 287 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,000 completely convinced I'm going to do it I know who I'm going to have do it for me I just I'm looking 288 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:18,720 for some designs and another fucking controversies unbelievable um what's this did I have 289 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,920 what is this comment hold on a second let me see I had something oops I had something teed up here I'm 290 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,560 not sure if this was in regards to the feed hijacking hold on let's listen hey Adam this is Darrell 291 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:35,440 Fallen over law school podcast calm was listening to your DSC 289 actually stopped this so I could 292 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:41,920 record this message to you it's now creating a domain name I have my own domain name of course 293 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:49,920 and our seat oh and so this is this was kind of a lead into the to the feed hijacking now here's 294 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,680 what's interesting about this and and I thought it was kind of dying down but it seems like it is 295 00:33:53,680 --> 00:34:00,720 not gone away yet and I know these two guys one guy from the vegan cast and one guy from pod pod 296 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,960 keywords.com I believe both of them started on podcasting pretty early but there's this huge 297 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,920 riff that is that is come up I think mainly because there's a little bit of a lack of understanding 298 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:17,440 what's happening and how pod key works and how feed caching works and you know and I think we could 299 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,320 probably see the same misunderstanding with feed burner and I know we've seen this misunderstanding with 300 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:28,560 iTunes where was I just I just did I just hear a podcast or just that was I listening to 301 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,720 was I watching some oh no it was rocket boom that's right Amanda from rocket boom was saying 302 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:39,920 that iTunes was considering changing the way they deal with RSS feeds I don't know what it means 303 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,320 but I'll definitely try and get some info from from from the campus for you to find out what's going on 304 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:52,320 and so the I guess it really the heart of the matter here is two issues one 305 00:34:52,560 --> 00:35:00,800 that is probably not a good idea to replicate your podcast feed anywhere else that you don't 306 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:07,840 have control over over the server so in essence that's like creating a Microsoft Word document 307 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,680 but letting someone else make a copy of it and then distribute it even if that's what you agree to it's 308 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,760 still is not a good idea I mean there's a whole bunch of things that can go wrong in the process 309 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,840 and why would you you know why wouldn't you just send that word document directly to someone so 310 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,960 that's the one part is the caching now of course there's a huge marketing opportunity in there 311 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,520 which is I think what what keywords was initially invented for but I don't think there was ever 312 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:38,560 business model put around it and I've never really been a fan of keywords myself you remember we 313 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:44,080 had that whole um that whole craze was that with netscape you could buy keywords and you could just 314 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,240 type into your into your browser window instead of a URL you just type maybe that's still works I 315 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:55,760 wonder if that works with one on a second um let's see let's just take a random keyword the 316 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:02,400 random keyword would be sex because I'm sure if it has keywords enabled it'll get it and it goes to 317 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:17,360 sxetc.org a website by teens 14's that's fantastic oh my god oh my god okay sex et cetera 318 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,120 so that's I type that in Firefox that's pretty interesting what if I just do 319 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:33,040 what should we do travel that's another general keywords what happens if I I wonder if keywords 320 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,080 travel loss that is where it goes to that's interesting so are there still keywords available 321 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,920 in in browsers well anyway that's where the the pod key I think that I believe the pod key idea 322 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:51,360 came from so there's that issue and then there's really the issue of um was there a 323 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:59,040 ransom a real hijacking you know I guess if it working back from the so many memes in this 324 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:06,080 hijacking of feed and asking a ransom these are pretty strong words but the meme is definitely 325 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,880 caught and I think that I may be partially to blame because I played an audio comment from the vegan 326 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:18,720 cast podcaster who who talked about this and now I was sent a file of the David Lawrence show which is 327 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:24,400 also I think it might be on the radio but certainly a podcast interview with the uh with the I'm 328 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:31,920 just using their their show names okay uh using I had an interview with the the podcast keyword 329 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:40,000 dude and completely different viewpoint so I think that the controversy will continue for a while 330 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,920 but now I think it's just gotten personal and I think it's uh we should try and focus on the actual 331 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:53,760 issue which is you know how do we make sure that this stuff um doesn't happen um and the the number one 332 00:37:53,760 --> 00:38:01,200 way is to I guess you know before it's way too late is to you know figure out what best way to set 333 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,080 up your feed because your feed really is quite important and so to answer the question for that comment 334 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:11,040 that was that I started to play just before I got into this whole thing I believe that the really 335 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:17,040 the true way to do it is to register a domain name so that you can change the DNS to any server you 336 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:24,640 want and then um yeah then basically you have control over your RSS feed um but you'll still need 337 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:30,960 control over the server that it resides on and you'll need control over the DNS um which is a domain 338 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,840 name issue so really I think if you put those two things together that's we know so it's much better 339 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:43,200 to be uh atomspodcast.com and then I can put anything behind that to be my RSS feed then it's to be 340 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:50,000 atomspodcast.odio.com more atomspodcast.podshow.com for that matter um now I happen to control the 341 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:57,200 DNS on pod shows I'm not too worried about it last night we had the um the final episode of I'm a 342 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:03,440 celebrity get me out of here the UK version and as I predicted as I'd hoped uh Carol Thatcher 343 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:10,640 mother to the iron a daughter to the iron lady herself um one and it was it was just a really 344 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:19,040 interesting um series to watch I really enjoyed the personalities uh I didn't know any of them really 345 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:25,280 was great to um kind of get to know Jimmy Osman who I knew as a little Jimmy Osman the long-haired 346 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:32,320 lover from Liverpool um Sherri a cido one who uh thank you podcast Paul yeah it's said is uh it 347 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,000 couldn't be more cocky you're right I guess and he used to play an East Enders go figure the 348 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:43,040 show I watch almost religiously uh so Sherri said and Carol were the the three finalists and um it was 349 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,280 I don't know it was you know what it was it was no controversy or I should take controversy 350 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:53,920 no controversy at all in uh in the show um this series but what there was it was a real um human 351 00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:01,600 mutual respect and um and helpfulness and there was just something really beautiful going on and I'm sure 352 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,280 that the producers of the show were saying you know damn it you know we don't have any any spark 353 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,080 there's nothing going on here no one's fighting no one's angry but uh maybe that's exactly why I was 354 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:17,120 able to look to really watch the whole thing was just good and um uh and I think that Carol Thatcher 355 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:23,040 will be uh a very interesting uh new voice on the scene uh because of course now uh should be uh 356 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:28,640 bustle through the entire media gateway and should be talking to everybody about everything uh and 357 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,200 I think she'll do fine it's just it's wonderful to listen to her just listening to her talk is so nice 358 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,240 um you can tell that she's been in basically and yeah I just had a great upbringing 359 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:46,720 her vocabulary is incredibly expensive and you know she will never answer a question where yes or no 360 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:53,280 she'll she'll just come out with a whole slew of beautiful words that like oh yeah read the yellow 361 00:40:53,360 --> 00:41:01,200 pages to me Carol please wonderful congratulations speaking of that according to Oxford's new dictionary 362 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:09,600 word of the year it's podcast let's check in with Heather and Jenelle so one thing Jenelle and I 363 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:17,760 totally agree on is that we love to argue oh very true okay when I think of voice I think uh drama 364 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:24,560 I like my boyfriend almost so it's more fun today it's so much less drama yeah definitely so go 365 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,240 to our site down those that ask me a dot com and tell us if you're going to type that 366 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:33,040 the first steady boyfriend or dating a bunch of guys download with Heather and Jenelle is 367 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,560 sponsored by Accu view brand contact lenses for the life of your eyes 368 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:47,040 all right this is PW Fenton creator of digital flotten and I'm here to wish a happy 369 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:55,520 quanza happy hannaca happy christmas and to all podcast listeners a very happy December 370 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:11,760 we back when when we didn't have to think come on until we take the boys on the bottom 371 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:20,400 meaning on on the banks of chubcry we're not happy stop that oh you can 372 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:28,720 ruin it let me alone woman this is and from the chubby cheek show chubcry hello kid I want to speak to 373 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:36,240 Anne it's Anne it's Adam and Murray it's Adam Curry hi it's a chubcry whatever Adam Curry for 374 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:42,320 anyway I've been listening to your show I actually sound like a wounded cat 375 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:48,000 it's awful anyway I'm talking to Anne and there's something wrong with your voice you don't 376 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,400 sound normal because it's not and I gotta tell you that I don't want to I've been listening to 377 00:42:52,400 --> 00:43:00,960 your show on the eye pocket it's an eye pocket I'm gonna tell you I love the music that 378 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:08,640 you're saying but I wish you put more of the your old songs like snowbird on the show and 379 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:14,000 uh you know and I'm gonna listen it but it takes hours and hours to listen and you all you're 380 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:19,680 talking about is your smash up senior there's no more people that put vegetables in your car 381 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:26,320 and an a waitin for you to get to the point why do you gonna get to the point I want to know 382 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:34,800 what's the source code what are you gonna tell me anyway I've got I haven't got time for this so 383 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:40,240 anyway I'm not buying another Anne Murray album and to curry until you reveal the source code 384 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:45,120 and you don't have to do it every day there can be like a weekly somebody shoot while you're at it you can 385 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:57,920 visit the chubby cheek show chubby cheek dot com hi I do an atom to stay down from madpod dot 386 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,120 com and since you can't play the the old hit test and stuff because of the music stuff going on 387 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:09,920 I thought I'd come up with the new DSC Adam Curry voiceover hit test see if you didn't recognize 388 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:19,920 your voice backwards here we go with number one number two 389 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:29,920 number three and you get a bonus number four is it safe I do like the coffee he does 390 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:38,160 like the coffee all right well time for the answers here we go with answer number one 391 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:45,920 my foot is wrapped up before they're number two pod people take an over answer number three 392 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:52,160 I did it I did a family would I said right and the bonus track once again is insane I do like 393 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:58,720 the coffee all right that is the first DSC voiceover hit test hope you enjoyed it don't forget 394 00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:06,480 the tune in to this week we have Nick Gilder hot child in the city it started with an old 395 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:14,080 wardrobe four children opened its door and found much more than coats and mothballs 396 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,000 beyond the wardrobe there's a world of adventure mystery and magic 397 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:31,440 join me as I take you to the kingdom of Nanya to explore the hidden secrets of the lion 398 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:38,160 the witch in the wardrobe you've read the books you've seen the movie now it's time to subscribe 399 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:45,040 to the secrets of Nanya a new series of podcasts by father Rodrige find it on iTunes or 400 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,280 surf through the Star Quest podcast network on sqpn.com 401 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,920 and Rodrige starts a new show every month it seems like 402 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:06,080 oh man it's so good to have him around but I'm subscribed father f f to the r f to the r father to the 403 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:13,600 roaderick from the Netherlands to wind it down today a couple of things about the the man the evil 404 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:22,320 man the r i a a a they sent a letter out nay not a not a letter a warning to David Bern this link has 405 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,160 been circulating around the net for a little while so you may have seen it if not I'm sure 406 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:33,200 it'll show up in the show notes show notes that info of course you can find a link from daily 407 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,720 source code dot com a curry dot com David Bern of the talking heads wrote on his website David 408 00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:44,160 Bern dot com the r i a a a should me a warning based on a previous radio playlist he does a 409 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,440 streaming station online that featured all missiele at all the time the digital millennium copyright 410 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:55,120 act the mca which was passed by congress 1998 was a hastily thrown together measure in my opinion 411 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,840 which aim to protect the music industry from the impending apocalypse well some parts of the 412 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,400 law seem reasonable other aspects when someone overboard to protect the interest of the industry before 413 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:10,160 folks even knew what would be developed invented or what half the terms actually meant and this is a 414 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:17,120 really good piece that that I encourage you to read because you're going to see here um what really 415 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,720 this digital millennium copyright act meant at the time and it was if you really read to the 416 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:27,520 DMCA I hope we can get a link to that in the show notes as well you'll see that all these little 417 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:34,240 stipulations are in there so literally um according to the DMCA which applies to streaming only 418 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:42,320 not to podcasting but to streaming you cannot play more than I believe it's four um tracks by the 419 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:48,960 same artist back to back from the same CD because otherwise people might be ripping it off and 420 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,920 there's a whole bunch of really weird stipulations in there by the way if you know um if you call 421 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,000 the record company and say hey can I get a waiver for that they can issue that you know you can issue 422 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,600 that right over the phone so you don't have to deal with it I think that that happens at some of 423 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,080 the satellite stations certainly on this one that you may be listening to this podcast if you are 424 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:14,480 checking us out on serious satellite stars 103 um stay tuned Pacific Coast hellway is coming 425 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:20,480 up right after this followed by uh Madge Weinstein with East Radio Don and Drew then we have 426 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,840 attention tech um I don't know if we have PW Fenton on tonight or certainly some McCool 427 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,880 Podsake music after that so those of you listening on serious I will uh see you tomorrow here on 428 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:36,880 the source code and those of you listen to the podcast here comes the bonus piece this is where 429 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:42,160 we get to talk a little bit longer so let me just see if there's anything else cool in this um 430 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:56,080 well let's just say here uh you cite Lawrence Lessick's book free culture uh here's something 431 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,080 to come back in the day I use my boombox to tape things off the radio all the time that's how I found 432 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,080 out about music I didn't know about and eventually I not only bought those records but ended 433 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,800 up promoting them too which made a fair amount of money for some record labels but not for me 434 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:16,800 not complaining though so you know read that and then you'll see how really broken the the DMCA is 435 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,400 and of course the fact that we don't have anything in place for podcasting which I like I really do 436 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:29,040 I'm glad they can't classify I can't figure out what to do with us um and ask God be in my 437 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:34,240 of very very helpful really like it when it comes to the music licensing because as far as I can tell 438 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:39,440 so so far really the only performing rights organizations that will allow their the podcasters 439 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:47,200 sorry allow artists to uh to assign um specific licenses for performance uh to individuals or 440 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:58,160 groups and um Mark Zeta sent me an email uh see he's from Australia so what are we had now we've 441 00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:04,320 had Austria friends Germany the Netherlands now we're in Finland we've had uh this is Australia 442 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:10,240 they have uh the APRA which is the Australian equivalent to ask at BMI um he's quoting from the 443 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:15,360 website when you become a member of the APRA you assign your performing rights in all existing 444 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,800 and future works to us this is the right to perform the work in public and the right to communicate 445 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,440 the work in public when we administer these rights on your behalf this means we enter licensed 446 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,920 agreements for the performance and communication of music and lyrics we monitor the use of music 447 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,640 under these agreements and distribute the royalties we collect the copyright owners whose material 448 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:40,960 is identified as having being used so Mark feels that that translates to that if you join 449 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,000 APRA your whole performance rights as an artist go to them that that's exactly what it states 450 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:55,120 and it seems to be that uh in Europe uh this is the case as well so um if you're a musician if you're an 451 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,560 artist uh in Europe uh or in Australia the countries that we've been through so far if not check it 452 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:06,160 out your local rights organization if you're a member if what you've done is actually signed your 453 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,800 rights over then I think that yeah I think there's an issue I wonder by the way can you as a 454 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,280 European artist can you just sign up with ask at BMI and won't they collect from in Europe for you 455 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,440 doesn't it is not how it works or could you do it through a US company something's got to give 456 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:24,720 because you know this isn't the pod save music revolution is not going to make it just 457 00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:32,400 based on US music alone we really need music from all over the globe some I picked up for PMN 458 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:40,320 some totally different kind of like uh early 80s kind of discoy funk vibe 459 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,760 dread days as one's called Love Life 460 00:51:46,250 --> 00:55:06,250 [ Music ] 461 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000 You know what I mean? Kind of the early 80s like 462 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,000 Shack attack type day 463 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,640 Love life and life would love you some true words right there 464 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,600 Everybody so 465 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,800 Take care of yourself. Don't let your feet get hijacked until we see you again my friends 466 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,000 I didn't know there was an ending to that 467 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,400 I was just gonna say wouldn't it be we should do 468 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,600 Like a mainstream news media story, you know like 469 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000 RSS feeds hijacked 470 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,000 Then again, maybe not 471 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,400 Hey tomorrow's Wednesday will be at the hump. I will gladly see you there to care everybody 472 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,400 Pot show the rate no party like a pot show party