1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Delta Sierra Charley 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,000 320 3 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,560 A year of Charlie heading forward the highway, looking for adventure and what it 4 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,000 becomes a bad save. 5 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:45,000 It's gonna be Friday, it's gonna be Friday, it's gonna be Friday. 6 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 What yes? 7 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 There's no sailbodies on methane hyper. 8 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,000 The drink too much coffee and fun to guess today. 9 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 When you're locomotive down the Stratford, 10 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,000 a filler owner with 16 gallons of flammable waste 11 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,000 wrapped in my ass and the destruction of the music industry in my ears 12 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,000 I like to think I'm a greasing up the future. 13 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Delta Sierra Charley is still doingafood. 14 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Little loose Cristo Wagyu 15 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,540 Listen, 16 00:01:24,540 --> 00:01:26,540 It's first round's on me. 17 00:01:31,540 --> 00:01:33,540 All right, Adam, have a good weekend. 18 00:01:37,540 --> 00:01:39,540 Oh man, where's the stopwatch? 19 00:01:54,540 --> 00:01:58,540 Oh, yes, everybody, one more day before I get to go home. 20 00:01:58,540 --> 00:02:01,540 Once again from the Curry condo, Danny Sorsko. 21 00:02:01,540 --> 00:02:02,540 For fuck's sake! 22 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:05,540 Are you ready? 23 00:02:05,540 --> 00:02:07,540 Let's party! 24 00:02:09,540 --> 00:02:11,540 Keep me hanging on now, baby. 25 00:02:11,540 --> 00:05:49,540 [ Music ] 26 00:05:49,540 --> 00:05:50,380 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on 27 00:06:19,540 --> 00:06:25,540 Friday and my last day of our to the two week, the two week stay here in the condo and 28 00:06:25,540 --> 00:06:29,540 really winding things up exactly the way I'd hope they would time out. 29 00:06:29,540 --> 00:06:33,540 Got a whole lot of stuff accomplished today. 30 00:06:33,540 --> 00:06:37,540 Whew, I'm ready to go home, I must say. 31 00:06:37,540 --> 00:06:39,540 I missed the girls terribly. 32 00:06:39,540 --> 00:06:43,540 And you know, for all the shit I give Apple, thank you so much for I chat. 33 00:06:43,540 --> 00:06:49,540 I mean, just we've got an eye Mac here and an eye Mac at the cottage. 34 00:06:49,540 --> 00:06:53,540 And it's just so easy, you know, Patricia can use it. 35 00:06:53,540 --> 00:06:57,540 And if she runs into trouble, I can always just SSH in and fire up VNC, 36 00:06:57,540 --> 00:07:01,540 young in the command line and help her out. 37 00:07:01,540 --> 00:07:05,540 You know, it's kind of like the air traffic control helping the stewarders land the jump 38 00:07:05,540 --> 00:07:09,540 both seven, four, seven, young on me. 39 00:07:09,540 --> 00:07:15,540 And so that's good that really has made all these trips a lot easier to bear. 40 00:07:15,540 --> 00:07:17,540 Because I miss them. 41 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:19,540 But soon I'll be back in my girls arms. 42 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:21,540 Let me see where to start. 43 00:07:21,540 --> 00:07:25,540 It's early Friday morning here in San Francisco. 44 00:07:25,540 --> 00:07:29,540 Got to get a head start on stuff because we got quite a full day, you know, 45 00:07:29,540 --> 00:07:31,540 keeping it going all the way to the very very end. 46 00:07:31,540 --> 00:07:33,540 And then of course tonight I'm hanging out with my buddy Greg. 47 00:07:33,540 --> 00:07:37,540 I'm going to have dinner with him and his son Zach. 48 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:39,540 And then I'll be heading home tomorrow. 49 00:07:39,540 --> 00:07:41,540 I'm looking forward to it. 50 00:07:41,540 --> 00:07:43,540 Okay, so here's what happened today. 51 00:07:43,540 --> 00:07:45,540 Oh, man. 52 00:07:45,540 --> 00:07:49,540 So I call Patricia on the eye chat and we were chatting. 53 00:07:49,540 --> 00:07:51,540 Oh, um, did you read my email? 54 00:07:51,540 --> 00:07:55,540 And of course, uh, and this would make most of you feel really good. 55 00:07:55,540 --> 00:07:59,540 Who sent me email and didn't get a reply for some reason in the past. 56 00:07:59,540 --> 00:08:00,540 As early as yesterday. 57 00:08:00,540 --> 00:08:02,540 As a reason as yesterday. 58 00:08:02,540 --> 00:08:07,540 Um, so she had sent that it, you know, sometimes I was clearly asleep because of the time difference. 59 00:08:07,540 --> 00:08:09,540 And it had already scrolled way down the list. 60 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:11,540 So I had not seen it not. 61 00:08:11,540 --> 00:08:16,540 It wasn't on the the main, you know, the the first screen when you log in to Gmail. 62 00:08:16,540 --> 00:08:20,540 You know, it's more than 40 messages or whatever it is, 50 messages. 63 00:08:20,540 --> 00:08:23,540 And, uh, I said, no, I said, hold on. 64 00:08:23,540 --> 00:08:24,540 We pull it up. 65 00:08:24,540 --> 00:08:25,540 Okay. 66 00:08:25,540 --> 00:08:26,540 So here's what happened. 67 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:27,540 This is now this is quite a story. 68 00:08:27,540 --> 00:08:31,540 Now, you know that we left the Netherlands a year and a half ago. 69 00:08:31,540 --> 00:08:35,540 Um, really, uh, because, well, we did a number of things. 70 00:08:35,540 --> 00:08:39,540 You know, we, uh, sold most of our stuff, our houses, everything. 71 00:08:39,540 --> 00:08:40,540 Just said, screw it. 72 00:08:40,540 --> 00:08:42,540 We're going to go chill out, rent a place for a while. 73 00:08:42,540 --> 00:08:44,540 Figure out we want to live settled down a bit. 74 00:08:44,540 --> 00:08:45,540 No attention. 75 00:08:45,540 --> 00:08:47,540 Just don't want anyone hanging out. 76 00:08:47,540 --> 00:08:52,540 Now, you'll recall if you are a longer term listener to the source code. 77 00:08:52,540 --> 00:08:56,540 You'll recall that, uh, we were in the cottage for a little under a year. 78 00:08:56,540 --> 00:08:59,540 It must have been what six, four months ago, five months ago. 79 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:01,540 And some paparazzi showed up from a magazine. 80 00:09:01,540 --> 00:09:02,540 Okay. 81 00:09:02,540 --> 00:09:08,540 So that really sucked and, you know, they had gotten from a database of magazine subscriptions from their publisher. 82 00:09:08,540 --> 00:09:10,540 So partially our fault, I guess. 83 00:09:10,540 --> 00:09:13,540 You know, the one subscription we carried over, they, they used to find their address. 84 00:09:13,540 --> 00:09:17,540 So of course, that's not known in the paparazzi world. 85 00:09:17,540 --> 00:09:21,540 And, uh, so there's this magazine called Weekend, which is, uh, 86 00:09:22,540 --> 00:09:25,540 builds itself as a family-oriented magazine. 87 00:09:25,540 --> 00:09:27,540 But it's a, it's a gossip rag. 88 00:09:27,540 --> 00:09:34,540 Um, came out, I guess, Wednesday in the Netherlands with front page of Patricia. 89 00:09:34,540 --> 00:09:39,540 And, uh, man, it's one of these pictures where she, uh, 90 00:09:39,540 --> 00:09:42,540 she's walking out of Sainsbury from doing shopping, right? 91 00:09:42,540 --> 00:09:44,540 And it was really, really cold that day. 92 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:48,540 And so she has, uh, kind of like a wool hat over her overhead. 93 00:09:48,540 --> 00:09:51,540 You know, to keep a nice one, we're pulled down pretty low. 94 00:09:51,540 --> 00:09:56,540 And, uh, you know how it works if you take 10 pictures of someone in quick succession. 95 00:09:56,540 --> 00:09:58,540 There's always a shitty one in there. 96 00:09:58,540 --> 00:10:00,540 So, of course, they take this shitty one. 97 00:10:00,540 --> 00:10:05,540 And then, um, it says drama. 98 00:10:05,540 --> 00:10:06,540 Literally drama. 99 00:10:06,540 --> 00:10:09,540 Um, and this is a whole cover page. 100 00:10:09,540 --> 00:10:11,540 On the inside, now check this. 101 00:10:11,540 --> 00:10:15,540 They took pictures from my, um, weblog. 102 00:10:15,540 --> 00:10:19,540 Actually, um, there are pictures that are posted on my flicker site. 103 00:10:19,540 --> 00:10:24,540 But, uh, I guess, uh, there must have been some links to it from, uh, from my weblog. 104 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:27,540 And one of them is a, is a full page again, almost. 105 00:10:27,540 --> 00:10:32,540 Of a shot that I took of Christina and Patricia in a limo in New York. 106 00:10:32,540 --> 00:10:35,540 And another one is the three of us sitting on a, on a, 107 00:10:35,540 --> 00:10:38,540 a bench in New York in Central Park and, you know, 108 00:10:38,540 --> 00:10:41,540 me taking the picture with my arm extended. 109 00:10:41,540 --> 00:10:45,540 And, uh, so the story basically is, um, 110 00:10:45,540 --> 00:10:48,540 they, you know, they're pretending that everything is all fine. 111 00:10:48,540 --> 00:10:53,540 But Adam has been away from home a lot lately. 112 00:10:53,540 --> 00:10:55,540 And therefore it's drama. 113 00:10:55,540 --> 00:10:57,540 Things are not going well. 114 00:10:57,540 --> 00:11:00,540 So, you know, that's kind of, you know, we can laugh about that. 115 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:05,540 And although it's, um, it's kind of the price you pay, you know, 116 00:11:05,540 --> 00:11:09,540 that, uh, that people are basically fucking stalking you and following you around 117 00:11:09,540 --> 00:11:12,540 and taking pictures of you, um, you know, 118 00:11:12,540 --> 00:11:14,540 and that they say stupid shit like that. 119 00:11:14,540 --> 00:11:15,540 Yeah, okay. 120 00:11:15,540 --> 00:11:17,540 So, well, we all know what I'm doing. 121 00:11:17,540 --> 00:11:18,540 And I'm over here. 122 00:11:18,540 --> 00:11:19,540 I'm back and forth. 123 00:11:19,540 --> 00:11:22,540 You know, I'm, uh, trying to make it all work. 124 00:11:22,540 --> 00:11:23,540 And we're all making it work. 125 00:11:23,540 --> 00:11:25,540 And the sacrifices that everybody makes. 126 00:11:25,540 --> 00:11:28,540 You know, yeah, I believe me, you know, 127 00:11:28,540 --> 00:11:32,540 you could follow around Bill Gates's wife or Steve Jobs's wife or 128 00:11:32,540 --> 00:11:35,540 the CEO of Shell or any other corporation. 129 00:11:35,540 --> 00:11:37,540 And particularly a smaller startup companies. 130 00:11:37,540 --> 00:11:39,540 You know, there's a lot of work involved. 131 00:11:39,540 --> 00:11:44,540 So, that's not really fair statement, but for any woman, any woman 132 00:11:44,540 --> 00:11:48,540 to have a picture taken of them when the just, you know, 133 00:11:48,540 --> 00:11:51,540 when it just isn't the picture you want, you know, 134 00:11:51,540 --> 00:11:54,540 and it's easy to make someone look like shit. 135 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:56,540 And of course, my wife could never look like shit, 136 00:11:56,540 --> 00:11:59,540 but I know what she's thinking when she sees a picture like this. 137 00:11:59,540 --> 00:12:01,540 Okay, so it should happens, right? 138 00:12:01,540 --> 00:12:02,540 We don't live there. 139 00:12:02,540 --> 00:12:04,540 So it's not all that bad and whatever. 140 00:12:04,540 --> 00:12:06,540 And they can write whatever they want about me. 141 00:12:06,540 --> 00:12:07,540 I don't care. 142 00:12:07,540 --> 00:12:11,540 However, two things, the most important one, 143 00:12:11,540 --> 00:12:16,540 and this is just amazing for a so-called family magazine. 144 00:12:16,540 --> 00:12:21,540 They published the name and location of my daughter's school, 145 00:12:21,540 --> 00:12:24,540 15-year-old daughter of my daughter's school. 146 00:12:24,540 --> 00:12:28,540 And then just are very happy to mention that, 147 00:12:28,540 --> 00:12:33,540 and a cab picks up and drops her off every single day. 148 00:12:33,540 --> 00:12:35,540 That is endangerment. 149 00:12:35,540 --> 00:12:38,540 All it takes, you know, of course, we've now changed that. 150 00:12:38,540 --> 00:12:39,540 This is why I'm going to tell you this. 151 00:12:39,540 --> 00:12:43,540 But all it takes is one idiot to say, hey, now that's kind of cool. 152 00:12:43,540 --> 00:12:47,540 If I just pretend I'm a cab driver, I can get their daughter. 153 00:12:47,540 --> 00:12:49,540 You know, it's unbelievable. 154 00:12:49,540 --> 00:12:53,540 I just can't, that really, really pissed me off. 155 00:12:53,540 --> 00:12:55,540 You know, that's just upsetting. 156 00:12:55,540 --> 00:12:57,540 And especially, of course, we're lucky. 157 00:12:57,540 --> 00:12:58,540 And fortunately, nothing has happened. 158 00:12:58,540 --> 00:13:02,540 And you know, this has only been publicized for two days. 159 00:13:02,540 --> 00:13:05,540 So I guess we're okay there. 160 00:13:05,540 --> 00:13:08,540 But, you know, in pictures of my house, of course. 161 00:13:08,540 --> 00:13:11,540 And there's all, you know, it's all under the freedom of the press. 162 00:13:11,540 --> 00:13:14,540 So I'm just really upset about that. 163 00:13:14,540 --> 00:13:16,540 Because you can say what you want about me, 164 00:13:16,540 --> 00:13:18,540 and Patricia's the same way. 165 00:13:18,540 --> 00:13:23,540 And you know, it's like you can say, you can make up anything you want about us and our relationship. 166 00:13:23,540 --> 00:13:25,540 We've been married for almost 20 years. 167 00:13:25,540 --> 00:13:27,540 You know, nothing is going to phase us. 168 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:30,540 But stay the fuck away from my kid. 169 00:13:30,540 --> 00:13:36,540 And so, you know, usually, and they've written about us a lot. 170 00:13:36,540 --> 00:13:41,540 And usually on the guy that says, ah, you know, whatever, you know, let them go. 171 00:13:41,540 --> 00:13:48,540 You know, I'd be much rather be yapping about pod safe music or about pod show or doing some cool stuff. 172 00:13:48,540 --> 00:13:52,540 I don't want to spend any negative energy working on backwards stuff, right? 173 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:54,540 Particularly not in other countries. 174 00:13:54,540 --> 00:13:56,540 Just like who cares? 175 00:13:56,540 --> 00:13:58,540 It's too bad for my family and for Patricia's family. 176 00:13:58,540 --> 00:13:59,540 They have to deal with that shit. 177 00:13:59,540 --> 00:14:01,540 People always asking him about it. 178 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:04,540 But okay, you know, so that's the way it goes. 179 00:14:04,540 --> 00:14:09,540 But this time, first of all, I'm really upset about what they've done, 180 00:14:09,540 --> 00:14:14,540 which just shows total lack of understanding of what it is to have a family. 181 00:14:14,540 --> 00:14:17,540 Secondly, and this is where they tripped. 182 00:14:17,540 --> 00:14:20,540 And this is going to be very interesting. 183 00:14:20,540 --> 00:14:26,540 If you look at any of the pickers, pickers, any of the pickers on my flicker side, any of the pictures on my flicker side. 184 00:14:26,540 --> 00:14:31,540 You'll see that they are published under a Creative Commons license. 185 00:14:31,540 --> 00:14:42,540 Specifically, the attribution non-commercial share a like license, which means you can share this picture. 186 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:44,540 You can copy it. 187 00:14:44,540 --> 00:14:48,540 You can do basically anything you want to do under the following conditions. 188 00:14:48,540 --> 00:14:54,540 One, you provide attribution, which means you have to point a link back to where the original is. 189 00:14:54,540 --> 00:14:57,540 And you have to say that's mine and copyright, whatever. 190 00:14:57,540 --> 00:14:59,540 That's pretty normal. 191 00:14:59,540 --> 00:15:02,540 Share a like means you can't mess with it. 192 00:15:02,540 --> 00:15:07,540 You have to share it the same manner. 193 00:15:07,540 --> 00:15:12,540 And non-commercial means you cannot use it for commercial use. 194 00:15:12,540 --> 00:15:16,540 So that's how we're going to sue them. 195 00:15:16,540 --> 00:15:19,540 And I called my lawyers and I said, you know what? 196 00:15:19,540 --> 00:15:20,540 Now is the time. 197 00:15:20,540 --> 00:15:22,540 Now we're going to go get these fuckers. 198 00:15:22,540 --> 00:15:27,540 It's going to be very interesting to see what the value of my Creative Commons license is. 199 00:15:27,540 --> 00:15:31,540 I'm pretty sure it's a shoe in, but it's going to be very interesting to see that. 200 00:15:31,540 --> 00:15:33,540 And endangerment of a child. 201 00:15:33,540 --> 00:15:38,540 So we're going to basically say you have to pull that magazine off the racks entirely. 202 00:15:38,540 --> 00:15:42,540 Every single one has to be recalled from the stores. 203 00:15:42,540 --> 00:15:48,540 And on top of that, of course, we want to rectify the situation. 204 00:15:48,540 --> 00:15:53,540 So we'll get the same amount of page space and cover space. 205 00:15:53,540 --> 00:15:55,540 And because there's no money in this shit. 206 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:58,540 You know, it's like, yeah, I'm sure we'll sue for damages. 207 00:15:58,540 --> 00:16:03,540 But the Netherlands is such a socialist fucked up court system with no jury by the way. 208 00:16:03,540 --> 00:16:06,540 It's a professional judge that makes the decision. 209 00:16:06,540 --> 00:16:11,540 So there's, there's not any money in it, but I just can't believe. 210 00:16:12,540 --> 00:16:18,540 And we also were, we're suing the, the editor himself. 211 00:16:18,540 --> 00:16:19,540 It's anyway. 212 00:16:19,540 --> 00:16:25,540 So, you know, it was kind of like a night in, in shining armor. 213 00:16:25,540 --> 00:16:27,540 You know, my girls were bombed, you know. 214 00:16:27,540 --> 00:16:31,540 And they've been waiting for me to get up to call them for them to lay all the shit on me. 215 00:16:31,540 --> 00:16:34,540 And they were, you know, obviously bummed out. 216 00:16:34,540 --> 00:16:36,540 And so I came into action for the first time. 217 00:16:36,540 --> 00:16:38,540 I'm actually going to go after one of these magazines. 218 00:16:38,540 --> 00:16:41,540 It's, uh, you just cross the line. 219 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:43,540 So one legally on the pictures. 220 00:16:43,540 --> 00:16:46,540 That's theft and the arrogance of that. 221 00:16:46,540 --> 00:16:50,540 The arrogance that you think that you can take something off of a website and publish it in a magazine. 222 00:16:50,540 --> 00:16:51,540 What arrogance? 223 00:16:51,540 --> 00:16:55,540 You know, if we turn around, if we take something of yours, how fast your lawyers are here. 224 00:16:55,540 --> 00:16:57,540 Now watch my boys, okay? 225 00:16:57,540 --> 00:17:03,540 Have you ever seen the discovery channel where, like the, the Orca whale, it gets beached. 226 00:17:03,540 --> 00:17:08,540 Or it comes up on the beach and it grabs a little, uh, a little baby seal. 227 00:17:08,540 --> 00:17:13,540 And then he keeps him in his mouth and they slings him in the air, like 30 feet and he lands the further up. 228 00:17:13,540 --> 00:17:16,540 And he go get some, he catches him in his mouth and they're playing with him back and forth. 229 00:17:16,540 --> 00:17:17,540 Like a beach ball. 230 00:17:17,540 --> 00:17:19,540 That's what my lawyers are going to do to you. 231 00:17:19,540 --> 00:17:20,540 Okay? 232 00:17:22,540 --> 00:17:24,540 Ha, man. 233 00:17:24,540 --> 00:17:25,540 It's Friday. 234 00:17:25,540 --> 00:17:26,540 Okay. 235 00:17:26,540 --> 00:17:32,540 So I was going to, um, open up the testing for the podsafe music, podsafe music network today. 236 00:17:32,540 --> 00:17:35,540 To test the purchasing. 237 00:17:35,540 --> 00:17:40,540 Um, oh, man, we had a great meeting today about, uh, you know, how we want to put all this in place, 238 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:46,540 about, uh, the pricing and really about the creation of the unlabel. 239 00:17:46,540 --> 00:17:51,540 And I want to talk a little bit about that right now because when we open this up, 240 00:17:51,540 --> 00:17:53,540 there's a number of elements to it. 241 00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:54,540 And I just want to explain. 242 00:17:54,540 --> 00:17:59,540 If we were to just go and recreate iTunes for independent music, that would be dumb. 243 00:18:00,540 --> 00:18:03,540 You know, we really want to see if we can change something. 244 00:18:03,540 --> 00:18:06,540 This is what they call that blue ocean strategy or whatever. 245 00:18:06,540 --> 00:18:13,540 I think, um, the following scenario is something that we want to experiment with. 246 00:18:13,540 --> 00:18:17,540 So first of all, we all know that these are free and clear MP3. 247 00:18:17,540 --> 00:18:20,540 So we're, and this is, this is big thing. 248 00:18:20,540 --> 00:18:21,540 Okay? 249 00:18:21,540 --> 00:18:27,540 We're basically saying, uh, we're believing in humanity here and all the artists who, uh, 250 00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:30,540 participate in this will, will pretty much be doing the same. 251 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:37,540 Consumers have not really had an opportunity on any reasonable marketed scale, um, 252 00:18:37,540 --> 00:18:43,540 you know, to show that they will pay from music and, and, and, and respect rights of authors, 253 00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:50,540 um, within, you know, some kind of boundaries that will make it work for everybody. 254 00:18:50,540 --> 00:18:53,540 Uh, so that's the big risk right there. 255 00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:56,540 But I, I have just a belief in humanity. 256 00:18:56,540 --> 00:19:01,540 So, you know, I'm, I'm just feeling good about the fact that that'll work. 257 00:19:01,540 --> 00:19:06,540 Now, look at where artists are today. 258 00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:17,540 Um, you don't need a record label, a record company, because you can get all the pieces that a record label 259 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:21,540 offers independently and, and it's available out there. 260 00:19:21,540 --> 00:19:22,540 Okay? 261 00:19:22,540 --> 00:19:29,540 So let's say, in a traditional recording contract, you get, um, financing of the recording of your album. 262 00:19:29,540 --> 00:19:32,540 Well, you know, everybody can use garage band. 263 00:19:32,540 --> 00:19:34,540 And that stuff's been leveled out. 264 00:19:34,540 --> 00:19:35,540 Okay? 265 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:39,540 Now distribution, distribution is obviously the piece that, um, 266 00:19:39,540 --> 00:19:45,540 iTunes has done a great job at enabling people to purchase individual tracks. 267 00:19:45,540 --> 00:19:51,540 Uh, of course, um, there's, uh, there's a few issues with iTunes. 268 00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:55,540 One is you can't really go as an independent artist just to list a track. 269 00:19:55,540 --> 00:19:57,540 You have to go through what they call an aggregator. 270 00:19:57,540 --> 00:19:59,540 CD Baby would be an example of that. 271 00:19:59,540 --> 00:20:00,540 And it takes a long time. 272 00:20:00,540 --> 00:20:03,540 You know, you can't really just say, I want to sell something today right now. 273 00:20:03,540 --> 00:20:09,540 It can take a couple weeks, which makes it very hard to implement your marketing plan. 274 00:20:09,540 --> 00:20:14,540 Um, so record companies spend a lot of money on marketing and paying radio stations. 275 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:18,540 Uh, or paying radio stations to keep them friendly. 276 00:20:18,540 --> 00:20:20,540 So they will, uh, then don't really pay for play. 277 00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:23,540 But there's all kinds of money transactions going back and forth. 278 00:20:23,540 --> 00:20:25,540 Um, so, but, you know, they work it. 279 00:20:25,540 --> 00:20:26,540 They have independent promoters. 280 00:20:26,540 --> 00:20:29,540 These guys go out and work it and get the record played and the record played. 281 00:20:29,540 --> 00:20:32,540 Reports the billboard and then billboard, uh, 282 00:20:32,540 --> 00:20:34,540 shows chart activity and then you might get an article. 283 00:20:34,540 --> 00:20:37,540 And then if there's enough budget, they'll do a video clip. 284 00:20:37,540 --> 00:20:39,540 And you get that on MTV and body, body, body, body, body. 285 00:20:39,540 --> 00:20:41,540 That's how the whole thing goes. 286 00:20:42,540 --> 00:20:46,540 So in our world, which is completely separate, but has an amazing amount of distribution. 287 00:20:46,540 --> 00:20:51,540 We have podcasters who through the pod safe music network can play the songs. 288 00:20:51,540 --> 00:20:56,540 Now, if we have a thousand podcasts with a thousand listeners, 289 00:20:56,540 --> 00:21:01,540 playing one song that's a million impressions, a million spins. 290 00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:06,540 That's the equivalent of having a huge radio air play in traditional radio. 291 00:21:07,540 --> 00:21:10,540 So if you have a million people, I can only presume that what? 292 00:21:10,540 --> 00:21:13,540 Maybe 1% will show up and buy. 293 00:21:13,540 --> 00:21:17,540 Now, with 99 cents, you're talking about some serious rent money, 294 00:21:17,540 --> 00:21:19,540 beer money, whatever you want. 295 00:21:19,540 --> 00:21:25,540 So how does that piece kind of flow from a podcaster playing it? 296 00:21:25,540 --> 00:21:29,540 Podcaster plays a song says, hey, like today I played was a valley lodge hanging on. 297 00:21:29,540 --> 00:21:32,540 Go to my show notes if you like the song. 298 00:21:32,540 --> 00:21:33,540 And there will be a link. 299 00:21:33,540 --> 00:21:36,540 And you click on the link and you'll go into the artist's page. 300 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:37,540 It's very much like it happens right now. 301 00:21:37,540 --> 00:21:39,540 You can go to my show notes and see it at any time. 302 00:21:39,540 --> 00:21:41,540 It takes you straight to the artist's page. 303 00:21:41,540 --> 00:21:43,540 But then there will be a by-link. 304 00:21:43,540 --> 00:21:49,540 And the by-link right now, we are doing worldwide credit cards. 305 00:21:49,540 --> 00:21:51,540 So anywhere you are, you'll be able to register. 306 00:21:51,540 --> 00:21:54,540 And you only have to enter your card details once. 307 00:21:54,540 --> 00:21:55,540 You know, it's like a real store. 308 00:21:55,540 --> 00:21:58,540 And we have a partner for that who does it all secure. 309 00:21:58,540 --> 00:22:01,540 You know, we don't want to be a credit card transaction company. 310 00:22:01,540 --> 00:22:06,540 We want your details to be completely safe, obviously. 311 00:22:06,540 --> 00:22:10,540 Then you are shuddled back after you've purchased. 312 00:22:10,540 --> 00:22:13,540 You come back to, we don't really have a name for you. 313 00:22:13,540 --> 00:22:17,540 But I guess you're your collection or whatever. 314 00:22:17,540 --> 00:22:20,540 You'll have a little bit of space or not a little bit of space. 315 00:22:20,540 --> 00:22:23,540 You'll have an area within your account on the pod save music network. 316 00:22:23,540 --> 00:22:26,540 Oh yeah, listeners will have an account now, of course. 317 00:22:26,540 --> 00:22:29,540 And everything you purchase will be in there. 318 00:22:29,540 --> 00:22:31,540 And it'll just stay in there, okay? 319 00:22:31,540 --> 00:22:35,540 So it's not like iTunes where if you lose the file, you can't get it back. 320 00:22:35,540 --> 00:22:36,540 No, it's there. 321 00:22:36,540 --> 00:22:38,540 And you can just go back and download it again. 322 00:22:38,540 --> 00:22:41,540 Now, of course, you should be able to load it on any device. 323 00:22:41,540 --> 00:22:43,540 And it played anywhere you want. 324 00:22:43,540 --> 00:22:48,540 But we want to encourage people if they turn other people onto the music 325 00:22:48,540 --> 00:22:51,540 to get their friends to buy a copy as well. 326 00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:56,540 Now that piece going from the show notes into the purchase system, 327 00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:59,540 we feel that that is an important part of the unlabel. 328 00:22:59,540 --> 00:23:06,540 And that podcasters should be able to participate in sending someone over there to buy. 329 00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:15,540 So we're going to make it so that they become a part of the marketing program of that song or that artist. 330 00:23:15,540 --> 00:23:17,540 And that they get a piece of the transaction. 331 00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:21,540 Now, of course, we'll make it so that you can put a link and you don't have to be a podcaster. 332 00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:25,540 If you just want to promote someone, you could basically have your own little mini record label. 333 00:23:25,540 --> 00:23:30,540 By promoting all the songs that you want and being able to point right into the store. 334 00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:34,540 And just like any other affiliate program, 335 00:23:34,540 --> 00:23:41,540 only I think you'll see that we have some benefit and we'll be working very closely with the independent promoters of music, 336 00:23:41,540 --> 00:23:45,540 whether the podcasters or listeners. 337 00:23:45,540 --> 00:23:48,540 And then the circle is complete. 338 00:23:48,540 --> 00:23:49,540 You know, what else do you need? 339 00:23:49,540 --> 00:23:52,540 Is there anything else that a traditional record company can bring to the table? 340 00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:54,540 I don't think so. 341 00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:56,540 Oh, shoot. 342 00:23:56,540 --> 00:24:05,540 I'm glad I got most of that out because it was important that the folks on the satellite hear about that because we got some cool stuff happening here in podcasting. 343 00:24:05,540 --> 00:24:16,540 And actually, I'm coming to New York on the, was it the week of the 12th going to be dropping by a serious HQ and going to be talking to the big way. 344 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:23,540 Actually, Scott Greenstein, major big way about what we can do with pod safe music on serious satellite. 345 00:24:23,540 --> 00:24:31,540 Anyway, serious listeners have a great weekend. I will catch you guys on Monday. 346 00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:34,540 So we here on the podcast can just to happily continue. 347 00:24:34,540 --> 00:24:39,540 Okay, so do you understand why I'm really excited about this? 348 00:24:39,540 --> 00:24:41,540 Because I can't see any other piece. 349 00:24:41,540 --> 00:24:52,540 Well, yeah, I mean, the only thing you could argue is that record companies have a and our guys and a people who hook up musicians with producers and writers and videographers. 350 00:24:52,540 --> 00:24:53,540 Hey, guess what? 351 00:24:53,540 --> 00:24:55,540 That's called the social network. 352 00:24:55,540 --> 00:25:00,540 You know, we're going to be building that so that we can also facilitate within the network. 353 00:25:00,540 --> 00:25:03,540 People who are writers who want to hook up with musicians. 354 00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:05,540 Look what we did with pod safe for peace for Christ's sake. 355 00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:06,540 It was just an idea. 356 00:25:06,540 --> 00:25:10,540 Within two weeks, we had 32 artists all together doing a song. 357 00:25:10,540 --> 00:25:17,540 And, and selling it with the proceeds going to UNICEF. 358 00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:18,540 Okay. 359 00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:27,540 So anyway, because we won't actually do the final testing of every single piece of the track. 360 00:25:27,540 --> 00:25:35,540 You know, we want to make sure that the transaction part is really, you know, that we have all the security down for that. 361 00:25:35,540 --> 00:25:37,540 It's going to have to wait until Monday. 362 00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:42,540 I know you may bummed out and you wanted to try it. 363 00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:46,540 We'll, we'll basically have that, I think by Monday we'll have it up and running. 364 00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:54,540 I just, you know, it's, it's, but it's all going to be baited stuff anyway and we're really, you know, testing it out with the amongst ourselves here. 365 00:25:54,540 --> 00:25:59,540 So it'll only be, you know, like maybe one song you can test it out on just to get your account up and up and rolling. 366 00:25:59,540 --> 00:26:07,540 And then, of course, it'll be up to the artist to select which tracks they want us to, they don't have to sell, by the way, to select which tracks they want to sell. 367 00:26:07,540 --> 00:26:10,540 We'll test that part out amongst ourselves. 368 00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:18,540 And while we're doing that, we'll get this, the unlabeled pieces in place so that people can start promoting music and we can all participate in this. 369 00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:24,540 And I, for one, really looking forward to getting it all together. 370 00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:36,540 So apologize, you know, a little bit of a delay, but give me a little, a little time to get home and have sex. 371 00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:50,540 That's not right. That's really funky. How did that happen? 372 00:26:50,540 --> 00:27:05,540 I was like, wait a minute, this is not the promo. 373 00:27:05,540 --> 00:27:13,540 What was thinking it was? Wow. I'm using cast blaster, which you probably know, but that's really weird. 374 00:27:13,540 --> 00:27:21,540 Someone, I was trying to play one of the cart things and for some reason, the hanging on kicked in again. 375 00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:30,540 Let me see if it works now. There we go. 376 00:27:30,540 --> 00:27:46,540 Hey, this is KFC from the pod chick show and we're in the big time. We're in the big time. Hey Adam, thank you so much for all of your help over the past few months getting into podcasting and being so pod father Lee. 377 00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:51,540 I really appreciate it. And wow, look at how far we have all come. 378 00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:59,540 What an amazing, amazing ride we're having. And I'm so looking forward to riding some more as a member of the pod show family. 379 00:27:59,540 --> 00:28:09,540 Thank so much for having me. I'm so, so glad to be part of this new venture and this new industry. We're changing the world, man. We sure are. 380 00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:15,540 For those of you who don't know, I am the pod chick and our whole theme is positive vibe podcasting. 381 00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:22,540 Check out our show and learn to live your life a little bit more rich. We have a positive vibe message every show. 382 00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:27,540 And we just try to have a little fun along the way. We're looking forward to having you join us. 383 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:34,540 Check out our videos too. We've got some skydiving and some hot chicks dancing. You know, regular stuff like that. 384 00:28:34,540 --> 00:28:41,540 So with that, I look forward to working with everybody from the pod show and I'm just so happy that things are working out the way they are. 385 00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:50,540 And wow, happy 2006. What a way to start it off. Hey, like we say on the pod chick show, make them smile. 386 00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:57,540 Dan poets. All right, what up, Jay Mack? 387 00:28:57,540 --> 00:29:02,540 I see you. What up, Detroit? George, what up, Phoenix? 388 00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:06,540 Come on, this area. Stand the fuck out. Let's go. 389 00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:08,540 Let's go. Listen. 390 00:29:08,540 --> 00:29:09,540 It's good. 391 00:29:09,540 --> 00:29:10,540 Hi. 392 00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:11,540 Dot. Come. 393 00:29:11,540 --> 00:29:12,540 It's all good. 394 00:29:12,540 --> 00:30:36,250 [ Music ] 395 00:30:36,540 --> 00:30:39,540 Yeah. I love the hood high promos. 396 00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:43,540 I sent that one over to the execs. It's serious too. 397 00:30:43,540 --> 00:30:47,540 Got to hear this. It's like an awesome fantastic. 398 00:30:47,540 --> 00:30:52,540 You might hear my T-Cettle in the background there. 399 00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:55,540 Yeah. What was it going to say? 400 00:30:55,540 --> 00:30:59,540 Oh, pod chick. Yeah. So pod chick welcoming her to the families. 401 00:30:59,540 --> 00:31:03,540 So what we're doing with all these people who are joining the network. 402 00:31:03,540 --> 00:31:08,540 They are going to actually be beta testers at the same time as they're joining the network. 403 00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:11,540 They're going to help us work on the new systems. 404 00:31:11,540 --> 00:31:13,540 The pod cast delivery network. 405 00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:17,540 You know, this is not something that you just open up and say, 406 00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:19,540 Here it is. Come on in. It's fantastic. 407 00:31:19,540 --> 00:31:23,540 You know, I'm really, really careful about that because we're talking about 408 00:31:23,540 --> 00:31:27,540 Lots of people who are, you know, very serious about pod casting. 409 00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,540 We don't want feed, screwed up, and stuff like that. 410 00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:32,540 I mean, and shit happens, right? 411 00:31:32,540 --> 00:31:35,540 You know, software sucks sometimes and just shit breaks. 412 00:31:35,540 --> 00:31:39,540 And it just happens. So we got to be careful when we do this. 413 00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:41,540 So the first people that are coming in, 414 00:31:41,540 --> 00:31:46,540 We, you know, who've been diligently working with on the, 415 00:31:46,540 --> 00:31:51,540 They've actually helped us, you know, create our agreements. 416 00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:57,540 You know, really been able to refine the offering that we have for pod casters. 417 00:31:57,540 --> 00:32:00,540 And then not only going to be using the pod cast, 418 00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:03,540 Liberty network interface interfaces, I might say, 419 00:32:03,540 --> 00:32:10,540 But also the, the listener portion. 420 00:32:10,540 --> 00:32:17,540 And this is the stuff, of course, that we're going to use to lure in our hundreds of millions of listeners. 421 00:32:17,540 --> 00:32:20,540 And so, you know, based upon their feedback, 422 00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:22,540 And that'll take, you know, a couple of feedback loops, 423 00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:26,540 And we'll open it up to more, and then eventually we'll open it up to everybody. 424 00:32:27,540 --> 00:32:34,540 Yeah, I was, you know, I was saying that it was like 15 million things went through my head. 425 00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:37,540 And I can't remember what they were. 426 00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:39,540 Oh, yes, okay. 427 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:41,540 Let me see what's this. 428 00:32:41,540 --> 00:32:45,540 I have so many, you know, I have like seven more things I want to talk about. 429 00:32:45,540 --> 00:32:48,540 So I hope you're in the mood for it because it is Friday. 430 00:32:48,540 --> 00:32:50,540 We're off the side like the windows closed. 431 00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:52,540 Let's just continue on and just do this whole thing. 432 00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:55,540 But first, these words from one of our sponsors. 433 00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:58,540 Do you believe anything is possible? 434 00:32:58,540 --> 00:32:59,540 We do. 435 00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:00,540 Where are the 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home. 449 00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:39,540 Let me tell you. 450 00:33:39,540 --> 00:33:41,540 So I've been using cast blaster. 451 00:33:41,540 --> 00:33:45,540 And I think I've gotten a much better, a much better sound together. 452 00:33:45,540 --> 00:33:49,540 In fact, let me just see some feedback here. 453 00:33:49,540 --> 00:33:53,540 It was actually pretty funny from podcast crew budget. 454 00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:56,540 I thought you were supposed to be the best of the best, the pod father. 455 00:33:56,540 --> 00:33:58,540 So what's the deal with your shitty sound production? 456 00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:01,540 Every time I listen to your show, your pod safe music, skips and pops. 457 00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,540 Are you going to blame that on your piece of crap? 458 00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:04,540 Mac too? 459 00:34:04,540 --> 00:34:06,540 Interesting thing, Adam, is that your show is not live. 460 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:10,540 Did you know that means you can give it a listen and fix somebody's things 461 00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:11,540 before sending it out? 462 00:34:11,540 --> 00:34:14,540 Yeah, that would make me like mainstream, dude. 463 00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:16,540 So I guess Jack asks, oh, I'm sorry. 464 00:34:16,540 --> 00:34:19,540 Podcast crew budget, who calls me a jackass, 465 00:34:19,540 --> 00:34:21,540 hasn't heard the cast blaster shows yet. 466 00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:22,540 We've gotten it down much better. 467 00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:24,540 I really liked yesterday's show. 468 00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:25,540 I thought the sound was pretty good. 469 00:34:25,540 --> 00:34:28,540 Now that turned off the internal limit, or it's still working on it a bit. 470 00:34:28,540 --> 00:34:33,540 I did actually, I got a note from Mark Yoshimoto Nemkov from Pacifico's Hellway. 471 00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:35,540 He says, dude, I'm curious. 472 00:34:35,540 --> 00:34:38,540 What EQ and compression are you using on your voice? 473 00:34:38,540 --> 00:34:43,540 It sounds really fucking good, especially the last couple of days since you migrated to cast blaster. 474 00:34:43,540 --> 00:34:45,540 Yeah, I don't know, Mark. 475 00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:47,540 That's the secret of the Big Hared Fag, man. 476 00:34:47,540 --> 00:34:49,540 You know, I can't go telling you all that. 477 00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:54,540 Because, you know, then you'll be a big Hared Fag like me, too. 478 00:34:54,540 --> 00:35:03,540 I got a, you know, I had asked, or I just been kind of talking about some of the stuff that I was experiencing with, with cast blaster. 479 00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:09,540 And, well, you know, there is a community for this, this is a wonderful program. 480 00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:11,540 Oh, shoot, I remember I was going to say before. 481 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:13,540 Let me just write it down so I don't forget. 482 00:35:13,540 --> 00:35:15,540 Sorry. 483 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:19,540 I forgot again, no hold on. 484 00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:20,540 I'm so fried. 485 00:35:20,540 --> 00:35:23,540 Okay, let me just write that down. 486 00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:28,540 There's quite a cast blaster community that you can find at castblaster.com. 487 00:35:28,540 --> 00:35:34,540 And the community is taking note of my, of my recent switch. 488 00:35:34,540 --> 00:35:37,540 And here's some feedback. 489 00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:43,540 Hey, Adam, this is Barry J, cast blaster form moderator over castblaster.com. 490 00:35:44,540 --> 00:35:50,540 Hey, the other day on DSC 317, you were complaining about the card buttons on cast blaster. 491 00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:53,540 And the fact they don't have countdown clocks. 492 00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:54,540 Well, that's true. 493 00:35:54,540 --> 00:35:56,540 They don't have countdown clocks. 494 00:35:56,540 --> 00:35:58,540 But they do have progress bars. 495 00:35:58,540 --> 00:36:00,540 Is that little thin line under each button. 496 00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:02,540 So when you press a button like this. 497 00:36:02,540 --> 00:36:05,540 I'm asking for a new Hampshire. 498 00:36:05,540 --> 00:36:08,540 This is Radio QRM. 499 00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:13,540 The progress bar actually turns green as your promo or bumper plays. 500 00:36:13,540 --> 00:36:16,540 Okay, now it's time for the shameless plug. 501 00:36:16,540 --> 00:36:18,540 I now have a podcast. 502 00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:21,540 It's called Radio QRM. 503 00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:26,540 It's a weekly mix of pod safe music from where else the pod safe music network. 504 00:36:26,540 --> 00:36:29,540 And it sounds something like this. 505 00:36:39,540 --> 00:36:40,540 Yeah. 506 00:36:46,540 --> 00:36:48,540 Right on Barry. 507 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:51,540 So, you know, it's funny because. 508 00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:52,540 Oh, I'm sorry. 509 00:36:52,540 --> 00:36:55,540 This is Radio QRM. 510 00:36:57,540 --> 00:37:01,540 So I was listening to that comment earlier today at the office. 511 00:37:01,540 --> 00:37:03,540 I'm like holy crap. 512 00:37:03,540 --> 00:37:05,540 They're actually our progress. 513 00:37:05,540 --> 00:37:10,540 They're great progress bars and countdown timers under the track players in the cast blaster. 514 00:37:10,540 --> 00:37:12,540 But I hadn't seen. 515 00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:13,540 It's funny. 516 00:37:13,540 --> 00:37:15,540 The progress bars underneath the cart buttons. 517 00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:18,540 And the reason why is because the angle, you know, 518 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:23,540 this thing is on the on the countertop and the open kitchen thing here in the condo. 519 00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:26,540 And I'm significantly taller. 520 00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:28,540 It's really just too low for what I'm doing. 521 00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:34,540 So the angle that I'm looking at the laptop screen doesn't actually. 522 00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:37,540 Translate all of what's going on the screen. 523 00:37:37,540 --> 00:37:40,540 And when I got really close, see if I go down here, I can see it. 524 00:37:40,540 --> 00:37:42,540 I'm straight looking straight into the screen. 525 00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:43,540 But of course, I can't see the mic. 526 00:37:43,540 --> 00:37:45,540 Indeed, there's a progress bar there. 527 00:37:45,540 --> 00:37:47,540 Holy crap. 528 00:37:47,540 --> 00:37:51,540 A lot of that stuff that I was, and by the way, I don't think I was complaining. 529 00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:53,540 It's called feedback. 530 00:37:53,540 --> 00:37:56,540 You know, complaining is, I'm, I'm a lady, man. 531 00:37:56,540 --> 00:37:57,540 This is great. 532 00:37:57,540 --> 00:38:00,540 You know, I'm no fan of windows. 533 00:38:00,540 --> 00:38:04,540 But hey, look, I can use unique some machines. 534 00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:06,540 I can use dust machines. 535 00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:07,540 I can use max. 536 00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:11,540 I can, you know, I could probably still do some peek and poke shit on the, 537 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:15,540 the Vic Commodore Vic 20 and the Sinclair ZXA to you name it. 538 00:38:15,540 --> 00:38:18,540 You know, as I can work with windows, it may not be my favorite machine to, 539 00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:20,540 you know, to manage my life with. 540 00:38:20,540 --> 00:38:22,540 But, you know, hey, that's not what I got it for. 541 00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:25,540 I got this thing just to sit here and do its job. 542 00:38:25,540 --> 00:38:29,540 You know, the extra sound card and next Wednesday, I believe, 543 00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:32,540 Kenster J and I are going to do another MTV chronicle. 544 00:38:32,540 --> 00:38:37,540 So I get to try out my Skype theory with the dual sound cards. 545 00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:40,540 So we can really, you know, see, we can get some good recording going on 546 00:38:40,540 --> 00:38:43,540 and set it up the way I think it should work. 547 00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:45,540 So, you know, it's, it's cool. 548 00:38:45,540 --> 00:38:47,540 No complaints whatsoever. 549 00:38:47,540 --> 00:38:48,540 Amigo. 550 00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:50,540 No complaints whatsoever. 551 00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:57,540 Okay, here's, this is not a complaint, okay. 552 00:38:57,540 --> 00:39:01,540 But, what I was used to on the Mac is I was able to, 553 00:39:01,540 --> 00:39:04,540 take any document that quick time can play. 554 00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:08,540 And I could basically play that in Megaseg and I just discovered, 555 00:39:08,540 --> 00:39:12,540 I wanted to play an MP4, which is a video. 556 00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:14,540 Excuse me, a video. 557 00:39:14,540 --> 00:39:18,540 It's really the, it's kind of, it's an open standard, 558 00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:21,540 but that's now kind of known as the iPod format for iPod video. 559 00:39:21,540 --> 00:39:24,540 Because an old colleague of mine, Bill Elberg, 560 00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:28,540 better known as Vladi, the Mad Russian scientist, a different one, 561 00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:32,540 then I spoke, you know, that this is not George, this is Vladi, 562 00:39:32,540 --> 00:39:33,540 and Vladimir. 563 00:39:33,540 --> 00:39:38,540 Bill Elberg, who used to work with us in the early days of 564 00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:41,540 thinking my idea, it's actually on ramp before that. 565 00:39:41,540 --> 00:39:42,540 He was fucking great. 566 00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:47,540 And he's in LA and he's working at, I don't know if he wants me to tell you 567 00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:50,540 where he's working, but he has a great, a great gig, 568 00:39:50,540 --> 00:39:53,540 and I'm really proud of the success of all these guys 569 00:39:53,540 --> 00:39:55,540 that used to work in our, in our previous companies, 570 00:39:55,540 --> 00:39:57,540 you know, him and Brad's certainly. 571 00:39:57,540 --> 00:40:02,540 Actually, I mean, there's 700 people, so I could keep on name and names. 572 00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:06,540 But I knew I've played Miss Prince with the Z at the end 573 00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:10,540 on the daily source code quite a bit, and he told me this 574 00:40:10,540 --> 00:40:13,540 before, after I had already played Miss Prince, 575 00:40:13,540 --> 00:40:16,540 and I guess I kind of forgot, but I, you know, 576 00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:18,540 that's his band, and he's in it. 577 00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:26,540 And he gave me a video to one of their songs. 578 00:40:26,540 --> 00:40:29,540 And so that won't play in the cast blast, 579 00:40:29,540 --> 00:40:31,540 which I guess is kind of default behavior, 580 00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:33,540 so it's not a bug or anything. 581 00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:35,540 But I just can't play right now, 582 00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:37,540 it would take me, you know, to have to pause the recording 583 00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:38,540 to go and get it. 584 00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:43,540 So you'll have to hold on to hearing the Miss Prince 585 00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:46,540 and on Monday when I'm back, then we'll put a link 586 00:40:46,540 --> 00:40:48,540 into the video, but in the meantime, 587 00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:50,540 you can always check out the podcast, 588 00:40:50,540 --> 00:40:53,540 Music Network, and it's good to hear from Bill. 589 00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:57,540 Dude, I can't believe that's you, Bill. 590 00:40:57,540 --> 00:40:58,540 Let's just put it down. 591 00:40:58,540 --> 00:41:00,540 Yeah, I won't take it right on the list. 592 00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:01,540 Woohoo! 593 00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:02,540 Oh, yeah, there it is. 594 00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:04,540 Brad with Adam, it's a really big deal. 595 00:41:04,540 --> 00:41:05,540 Brad with Adam, it's a really big deal. 596 00:41:05,540 --> 00:41:06,540 Brad with Adam, it's a really big deal. 597 00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:09,540 Cook it slow, cook it fast, we'll have the United. 598 00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:13,540 Just jump on board and take it on night. 599 00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:18,540 We're going out on the test drive. 600 00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:20,540 It comes rockin' right. 601 00:41:20,540 --> 00:41:21,540 It comes rockin' right. 602 00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:23,540 It comes rockin' right. 603 00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:25,540 It comes rockin' right. 604 00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:27,540 It comes rockin' right. 605 00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:30,540 We're going out on the test drive. 606 00:41:30,540 --> 00:41:33,540 It comes rockin' right. 607 00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:35,540 It comes rockin' right. 608 00:41:35,540 --> 00:41:36,540 It comes rockin' right. 609 00:41:36,540 --> 00:41:37,540 It comes rockin' right. 610 00:41:37,540 --> 00:41:39,540 It comes rockin' right. 611 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:40,540 Let's move it on. 612 00:41:40,540 --> 00:41:41,540 Let's move it on. 613 00:41:41,540 --> 00:41:42,540 Let's move it on. 614 00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:43,540 Let's move it on. 615 00:41:43,540 --> 00:41:44,540 Let's move it on. 616 00:41:44,540 --> 00:41:45,540 Let's move it on. 617 00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:46,540 Let's move it on. 618 00:41:46,540 --> 00:41:47,540 Let's move it on. 619 00:41:47,540 --> 00:41:48,540 Let's move it on. 620 00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:49,540 That's right. 621 00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:50,540 We're going on a test drive. 622 00:41:50,540 --> 00:41:54,540 Today, Ron and I have a meeting at Google and we're taking Trinity. 623 00:41:54,540 --> 00:41:55,540 Yeah, baby. 624 00:41:55,540 --> 00:41:59,540 We are taking our science experiment on the road. 625 00:41:59,540 --> 00:42:01,540 So that's going to be a lot of fun. 626 00:42:01,540 --> 00:42:02,540 It's actually going to be great. 627 00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:05,540 We're meeting with a whole bunch of interesting people. 628 00:42:05,540 --> 00:42:08,540 Remember I talked about the music search. 629 00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:14,540 So that's one of the main reasons we're there is to talk about including pot-safe music. 630 00:42:14,540 --> 00:42:16,540 Pot-safe music network in the music search. 631 00:42:16,540 --> 00:42:22,540 We're also meeting with the guys from Google Reader, Google Talk. 632 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:25,540 Guys and gals, I should say actually. 633 00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:27,540 It's going to be fun. 634 00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:30,540 It's more fun that we're taking Trinity. 635 00:42:30,540 --> 00:42:31,540 I hope she makes it. 636 00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:34,540 It'll be great karma if she does. 637 00:42:34,540 --> 00:42:36,540 Speaking of Google, I'm not really speaking of Google. 638 00:42:36,540 --> 00:42:42,540 I always think of a big hotbed of software developers. 639 00:42:42,540 --> 00:42:46,540 I don't know if it's open for business. 640 00:42:46,540 --> 00:42:47,540 I think it should be. 641 00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:50,540 I didn't actually synchronize with Andrew before the end of the day. 642 00:42:50,540 --> 00:42:52,540 Now that I think of it. 643 00:42:52,540 --> 00:42:59,540 But as a part of our, you know, getting into beta and soon launching my pot-show. 644 00:42:59,540 --> 00:43:03,540 Pot-safe music, the podcast delivery network and pot-show plus. 645 00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:05,540 Oh, there's a new one for you. 646 00:43:05,540 --> 00:43:07,540 Pot-show plus. 647 00:43:07,540 --> 00:43:12,540 We are launching our developers program. 648 00:43:12,540 --> 00:43:17,540 And you can find that at developers.pot-show.com because 649 00:43:17,540 --> 00:43:19,540 And I'm really proud of this. 650 00:43:19,540 --> 00:43:21,540 I think this is so cool. 651 00:43:21,540 --> 00:43:24,540 And this of course is one of the main reasons why we have Andrew. 652 00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:29,540 Andrew comes with a lot of cool, cool little tricks in his tool bag. 653 00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:34,540 But he very successfully ran the, 654 00:43:34,540 --> 00:43:39,540 the iPod 11, the juice receiver, open source project, 655 00:43:39,540 --> 00:43:43,540 collaborative amongst like three or four continents, you know. 656 00:43:43,540 --> 00:43:46,540 So he'll be, he's been setting this up. 657 00:43:46,540 --> 00:43:50,540 And, and so you go to developers.pot-show.com. 658 00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:52,540 Everything will be open. 659 00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:54,540 Everything will be all API is open. 660 00:43:54,540 --> 00:43:58,540 All the inputs and outputs of this puppy are all going 661 00:43:58,540 --> 00:44:03,540 to be available through APIs that you're probably already familiar with. 662 00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:08,540 But, you know, there's modules and stuff to do and check that out. 663 00:44:08,540 --> 00:44:12,540 Developers.pot.jout.com and I'll see you over there 664 00:44:12,540 --> 00:44:14,540 because I like to lure out that shit. 665 00:44:14,540 --> 00:44:18,540 I love hanging out with the geeks once in a while, you know. 666 00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:22,540 Hey, since it's Friday, not only do I have a, by the way, 667 00:44:22,540 --> 00:44:27,540 Jeffrey Smith dude for doing all these, all this music and all these songs and stuff. 668 00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:30,540 You, you just rule so incredibly major. 669 00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:33,540 He did a re-edit of the Roger Smalls intro. 670 00:44:45,540 --> 00:44:49,540 And, of course, we have a message from Roger Smalls. 671 00:44:49,540 --> 00:44:50,540 Hello, my name, Roger here. 672 00:44:50,540 --> 00:44:53,540 Quick question for your mental sexual section. 673 00:44:53,540 --> 00:44:57,540 I was wondering if you had any tips for shaving walls without any bleeding. 674 00:44:57,540 --> 00:45:02,540 I'm sure that it's for his light Robert Teneerow or Victoria Backabilition in right now. 675 00:45:02,540 --> 00:45:04,540 Thank you for sharing the advice too. 676 00:45:04,540 --> 00:45:06,540 Thank you. 677 00:45:06,540 --> 00:45:19,540 Yeah, what you've got to do is another message from Roger Smalls. 678 00:45:19,540 --> 00:45:22,540 So I heard that from Roger. 679 00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:24,540 And I didn't get it at first. 680 00:45:24,540 --> 00:45:25,540 I didn't. 681 00:45:25,540 --> 00:45:29,540 And I'm not only if he's trying to be funny or this is, or if he really meant this, 682 00:45:29,540 --> 00:45:32,540 but I was like, Victoria Backim doesn't have warps on her face, 683 00:45:32,540 --> 00:45:33,540 like Robert Orp. 684 00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:36,540 I don't think Robert Teneerow is a ways of mole on his face. 685 00:45:36,540 --> 00:45:39,540 And then I figured out what I think he was trying to say. 686 00:45:39,540 --> 00:45:41,540 You're disgusting, Roger. 687 00:45:41,540 --> 00:45:42,540 Man. 688 00:45:42,540 --> 00:45:46,540 But you do get my weekend off to a good start with that stuff. 689 00:45:46,540 --> 00:45:48,540 You're nuts. 690 00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:50,540 Let me see. 691 00:45:50,540 --> 00:45:53,540 Oh, wow, yes. 692 00:45:53,540 --> 00:45:57,540 So the news about this week in tech, 693 00:45:57,540 --> 00:46:04,540 that I noticed quit taking advertising through pod track. 694 00:46:04,540 --> 00:46:07,540 So I said that I was really excited about this. 695 00:46:07,540 --> 00:46:10,540 And it was so hard to believe because Leo Leport has been, 696 00:46:10,540 --> 00:46:14,540 you know, so clear in the past about, you know, 697 00:46:14,540 --> 00:46:17,540 staying non-commercial. 698 00:46:17,540 --> 00:46:20,540 He made, why did it deal with AOL for the bandwidth, 699 00:46:20,540 --> 00:46:21,540 which I understand? 700 00:46:21,540 --> 00:46:24,540 And I thought that was, you know, that's actually a pretty pretty damn good deal, 701 00:46:24,540 --> 00:46:27,540 because bandwidth, particularly the numbers these guys are doing. 702 00:46:27,540 --> 00:46:32,540 You know, that's, I can get pretty costly. 703 00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:35,540 But he, you know, his keynote at the portable media expo. 704 00:46:35,540 --> 00:46:39,540 He, you know, was all about passion and not about taking money 705 00:46:39,540 --> 00:46:41,540 because then, you know, it would be, I mean, 706 00:46:41,540 --> 00:46:43,540 you go, look, look at his keynote. 707 00:46:43,540 --> 00:46:46,540 I don't want to put any words in his mouth. 708 00:46:46,540 --> 00:46:48,540 And so it showed up in CBS Marketwatch. 709 00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:51,540 And as I told you, I even pinged Frank Barnock on said, 710 00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:53,540 do, did you check this? 711 00:46:53,540 --> 00:46:55,540 And so, of course, I know Leo. 712 00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:59,540 I fired off an email to Leo, and it's true. 713 00:46:59,540 --> 00:47:00,540 He's taken ads. 714 00:47:00,540 --> 00:47:01,540 He's there. 715 00:47:01,540 --> 00:47:03,540 They're in some kind of auction or something. 716 00:47:03,540 --> 00:47:05,540 And we'll have to see how that works exactly. 717 00:47:05,540 --> 00:47:08,540 But that is phenomenal. 718 00:47:08,540 --> 00:47:15,540 And I'm very, very, very, very happy for everybody, really, 719 00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:19,540 for us as such a validation, you know, of that. 720 00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:22,540 Because I don't think this show is going to change. 721 00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:23,540 So they'll have a sponsor. 722 00:47:23,540 --> 00:47:24,540 Who cares? 723 00:47:24,540 --> 00:47:27,540 You know, it's great, you know. 724 00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:32,540 And, you know, if it'll keep TWIT going, you know, 725 00:47:32,540 --> 00:47:36,540 I'm quite, there's a whole thread over it to TWIT.tv. 726 00:47:36,540 --> 00:47:39,540 You can read about, I guess he was already kind of preparing the audience 727 00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:42,540 by asking questions, you know, should we do like an MPR model, 728 00:47:42,540 --> 00:47:45,540 listen or supported model, and looks like he went, 729 00:47:45,540 --> 00:47:47,540 I don't know if it's a hybrid that he's going to do 730 00:47:47,540 --> 00:47:48,540 a full ads, whatever. 731 00:47:48,540 --> 00:47:52,540 But it is a validation of, you know, 732 00:47:52,540 --> 00:47:57,540 great content, professional content that can match up with advertisers 733 00:47:57,540 --> 00:48:01,540 who are willing to step into the medium and make it work. 734 00:48:01,540 --> 00:48:04,540 You know, money has to flow somehow. 735 00:48:04,540 --> 00:48:08,540 And I think that we all can work with this. 736 00:48:08,540 --> 00:48:11,540 You know, look at what's happening in the world. 737 00:48:11,540 --> 00:48:16,540 Media is changing right before a very freaking eyes. 738 00:48:16,540 --> 00:48:18,540 And ears. 739 00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:23,540 So, you know, if you remove the concept of time immedia, 740 00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:27,540 you know, it doesn't matter how long or how short something is. 741 00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:32,540 If you remove the concept of limited frequency and ether, 742 00:48:32,540 --> 00:48:37,540 then it only makes sense that you can't do the same type of advertising. 743 00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:40,540 Now that doesn't mean that we have the answer yet, 744 00:48:40,540 --> 00:48:43,540 and that we know exactly what it's supposed to be. 745 00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:44,540 But it's happening. 746 00:48:44,540 --> 00:48:46,540 It really is taking place. 747 00:48:46,540 --> 00:48:48,540 And any advertiser, 748 00:48:48,540 --> 00:48:53,540 whether, you know, however they're working with us and with other ad networks 749 00:48:53,540 --> 00:48:56,540 or whatever system or any podcast, 750 00:48:56,540 --> 00:49:00,540 thank you for doing it because we're going to figure this stuff out. 751 00:49:00,540 --> 00:49:02,540 And by the way, listeners, 752 00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:04,540 thank you so much for bringing your feedback in. 753 00:49:04,540 --> 00:49:08,540 Because if you think that feedback doesn't go straight back to advertising agencies 754 00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:14,540 and the companies themselves who are utilizing podcasts to advertise, 755 00:49:14,540 --> 00:49:16,540 I mean, of course that's what's going on. 756 00:49:16,540 --> 00:49:17,540 So it can only get better. 757 00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:20,540 So your feedback is incredibly important. 758 00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:24,540 It is incredibly important. 759 00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:27,540 That said, here's another great example. 760 00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:28,540 Hold on a second. 761 00:49:28,540 --> 00:49:32,540 Remember, I went to the Johnson and Johnson conference. 762 00:49:32,540 --> 00:49:37,540 It was all the brand managers and media buyers in Seattle. 763 00:49:37,540 --> 00:49:39,540 I actually did a show from there. 764 00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:41,540 Well, 765 00:49:41,540 --> 00:49:44,540 I'll give you, which is a Johnson Johnson brand, 766 00:49:44,540 --> 00:49:45,540 which I know very well by the way. 767 00:49:45,540 --> 00:49:48,540 I've been an IQ view user all my life. 768 00:49:48,540 --> 00:49:51,540 I stopped using contact lenses. 769 00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:52,540 Let me see. 770 00:49:52,540 --> 00:49:54,540 Actually, when I started flying, 771 00:49:54,540 --> 00:49:58,540 because it was the night flight, I think. 772 00:49:58,540 --> 00:50:00,540 I was doing some night flying. 773 00:50:00,540 --> 00:50:06,540 And I put my glasses on instead of my contacts. 774 00:50:06,540 --> 00:50:09,540 And I really noticed a difference. 775 00:50:09,540 --> 00:50:12,540 And I don't know if that was just a night stuff specifically or whatever. 776 00:50:12,540 --> 00:50:14,540 And then I kind of got into, 777 00:50:14,540 --> 00:50:16,540 well, I got into the pink glasses that I wore. 778 00:50:16,540 --> 00:50:18,540 So I just wore prescription glasses. 779 00:50:18,540 --> 00:50:22,540 I had these rose colored glasses, which was really nice for a while. 780 00:50:22,540 --> 00:50:24,540 And then I have, 781 00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:27,540 these actually had a blue tint when I first got them. 782 00:50:27,540 --> 00:50:28,540 I don't kind of rubbed off. 783 00:50:28,540 --> 00:50:30,540 And I just got into glasses for a while. 784 00:50:30,540 --> 00:50:32,540 But I've always used active view. 785 00:50:33,540 --> 00:50:36,540 Yeah, active view colored lenses, which is pretty trippy. 786 00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:40,540 So I like the company regardless of whether they're, 787 00:50:40,540 --> 00:50:43,540 whether they're sponsoring the podcast, 788 00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:46,540 the podgeo podcast network or neat or neat. 789 00:50:46,540 --> 00:50:48,540 This is my Dutch slipping, or not. 790 00:50:48,540 --> 00:50:49,540 But they are. 791 00:50:49,540 --> 00:50:52,540 Specifically what they're doing is there's this, 792 00:50:52,540 --> 00:50:55,540 they're actually underwriting an entire podcast. 793 00:50:55,540 --> 00:50:58,540 So it's, I think I've mentioned them before. 794 00:50:58,540 --> 00:51:00,540 Heather and Janelle, 795 00:51:00,540 --> 00:51:03,540 two high school girls, high school girls, 796 00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:06,540 trying to get an audience basically. 797 00:51:06,540 --> 00:51:10,540 And, and they're just talking, 798 00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:13,540 you know, talking like high school girls. 799 00:51:13,540 --> 00:51:15,540 And the reason why, 800 00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:18,540 and I can certainly mention that on this podcast, 801 00:51:18,540 --> 00:51:23,540 is high school girls are interested in contact lenses. 802 00:51:23,540 --> 00:51:27,540 Because that's a big decision you make, you know, 803 00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:29,540 when you're young. 804 00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:32,540 We used to do, 805 00:51:32,540 --> 00:51:34,540 one of our clients when we were, 806 00:51:34,540 --> 00:51:36,540 when we had thing new ideas was, 807 00:51:36,540 --> 00:51:39,540 excuse me, I got something about it. 808 00:51:39,540 --> 00:51:43,540 I'm like, so I'm slipped in my throat there. 809 00:51:43,540 --> 00:51:45,540 I won't even tell you that story. 810 00:51:45,540 --> 00:51:47,540 I'll tell you that story another time. 811 00:51:47,540 --> 00:51:50,540 Anyway, you can check out Heather and Janelle 812 00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:53,540 at download.acview.com. 813 00:51:53,540 --> 00:51:57,540 Acview is AC, women, let me do that probably. 814 00:51:57,540 --> 00:52:01,540 I'll for Charlie Uniform, Victor Uniform Echo.com. 815 00:52:01,540 --> 00:52:02,540 There you go. 816 00:52:08,540 --> 00:52:10,540 Okay, let me just wind this up with one thing. 817 00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:13,540 I actually, I really contemplated not playing this 818 00:52:13,540 --> 00:52:17,540 because I, here's what I did internally. 819 00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:20,540 This, this audio feedback is particularly in this show 820 00:52:20,540 --> 00:52:23,540 because I was, I'm talking, because I've already talked about them. 821 00:52:24,540 --> 00:52:28,540 But I afforded this to a number of people within Pod Show, 822 00:52:28,540 --> 00:52:31,540 not as a, as a, 823 00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:35,540 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely work and not like that. 824 00:52:35,540 --> 00:52:39,540 But to reiterate how incredibly important it is 825 00:52:39,540 --> 00:52:43,540 when you come out with any type of service 826 00:52:43,540 --> 00:52:46,540 or offering for people who are serious about podcasting, 827 00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:50,540 how carefully you have to be with this stuff. 828 00:52:50,540 --> 00:52:54,540 Because one glitch can really ruin your day. 829 00:52:54,540 --> 00:52:58,540 Now, this is from the financial aid podcast. 830 00:52:58,540 --> 00:53:00,540 And it's about pod track. 831 00:53:00,540 --> 00:53:02,540 And I just want you to listen. 832 00:53:02,540 --> 00:53:04,540 And again, this is not, you know, 833 00:53:04,540 --> 00:53:06,540 sticking the tongue out at anybody. 834 00:53:06,540 --> 00:53:10,540 But it is important to understand what can happen 835 00:53:10,540 --> 00:53:15,540 when you start integrating pieces of your profession 836 00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:18,540 with other parties and how careful we all have to be. 837 00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:21,540 And this is, this could go for feed burner. 838 00:53:21,540 --> 00:53:24,540 This could go for any other company including pod show. 839 00:53:24,540 --> 00:53:27,540 So this is really just something for podcasters. 840 00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:31,540 I want you to understand what can happen when things go wrong 841 00:53:31,540 --> 00:53:36,540 when you basically give up control of your feed. 842 00:53:36,540 --> 00:53:38,540 Hey, I don't, this is Christian, the financial aid podcast 843 00:53:38,540 --> 00:53:41,540 with some feedback for you on pod track. 844 00:53:41,540 --> 00:53:44,540 As mentioned at DSC319, I noticed in mid December 845 00:53:44,540 --> 00:53:47,540 that one of my fellow New England podcasters was using pod track 846 00:53:47,540 --> 00:53:49,540 as a means of tracking their traffic 847 00:53:49,540 --> 00:53:51,540 and their listenership more accurately. 848 00:53:51,540 --> 00:53:53,540 I looked at the website and it seemed like they had 849 00:53:53,540 --> 00:53:55,540 a pretty promising offering so I signed up for it. 850 00:53:55,540 --> 00:53:57,540 Now, I'm not so terribly upset about the fact that 851 00:53:57,540 --> 00:53:59,540 in the month I've been a pod track member. 852 00:53:59,540 --> 00:54:03,540 I've never once gotten a report about my listenership statistics at all. 853 00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:05,540 No, as I terribly bothered by the fact that 854 00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:07,540 customer service kept replying with it. 855 00:54:07,540 --> 00:54:09,540 Oh, we'll get a report to you any day now. 856 00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:11,540 No, what bothered me was this morning. 857 00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:13,540 I went to the website, the pod track website. 858 00:54:13,540 --> 00:54:16,540 And I wanted to see if the reports that had been promised 859 00:54:16,540 --> 00:54:17,540 for so long were available. 860 00:54:17,540 --> 00:54:19,540 And instead, I got a server application error. 861 00:54:19,540 --> 00:54:20,540 Hey, no big deal. 862 00:54:20,540 --> 00:54:22,540 I figured I would just get out of my day and check back later. 863 00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:25,540 So I recorded the financial aid podcast as usual every morning. 864 00:54:25,540 --> 00:54:28,540 Got it up to the server and got it out there. 865 00:54:28,540 --> 00:54:31,540 iTunes was showing the dreaded exclamation point next to the feed. 866 00:54:31,540 --> 00:54:34,540 And I was like, oh, what's going on here? 867 00:54:34,540 --> 00:54:37,540 So I went to my web server and I made sure the file was there 868 00:54:37,540 --> 00:54:40,540 and they had not done a pre-coffie move and named 869 00:54:40,540 --> 00:54:41,540 something I shouldn't have. 870 00:54:41,540 --> 00:54:42,540 And everything was fine. 871 00:54:42,540 --> 00:54:45,540 Well, it turns out the way pod track works 872 00:54:45,540 --> 00:54:50,540 is basically they have your pre-pend there URL to all of the episodes of your podcast. 873 00:54:50,540 --> 00:54:54,540 So whether it's the MP3 posted directly on a website like my space or 874 00:54:54,540 --> 00:54:57,540 whether it's in your RSS feed, you always have a pod track URL 875 00:54:57,540 --> 00:55:00,540 at the beginning of your MP3 references. 876 00:55:00,540 --> 00:55:01,540 No matter where you are. 877 00:55:01,540 --> 00:55:05,540 And here's the part that annoys me this morning from 6 to 9AM, 878 00:55:05,540 --> 00:55:08,540 which is when the peak listenership of the financial aid podcast is 879 00:55:08,540 --> 00:55:09,540 because that's when the show is released. 880 00:55:09,540 --> 00:55:11,540 And that's when people tend to get to work. 881 00:55:11,540 --> 00:55:13,540 Pod track was completely unavailable. 882 00:55:13,540 --> 00:55:16,540 And when they're down, all of your MP3s are down too. 883 00:55:16,540 --> 00:55:19,540 There's no way for your users to get to your show. 884 00:55:19,540 --> 00:55:22,540 I don't know what podjo has waiting in the wings for podcasters around the world 885 00:55:22,540 --> 00:55:25,540 in terms of measuring listenership and things like that. 886 00:55:25,540 --> 00:55:28,540 But please, please, please, please, no matter what you do, 887 00:55:28,540 --> 00:55:29,540 make it reliable. 888 00:55:29,540 --> 00:55:32,540 Have backups, have redundancy, have fail over everything 889 00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:35,540 because there's nothing more frustrating to me as podcaster 890 00:55:35,540 --> 00:55:37,540 than not having my podcaster available to the world. 891 00:55:37,540 --> 00:55:40,540 As for pod track and the form emails I've gotten 892 00:55:40,540 --> 00:55:43,540 from CEO Mark McRearify his assistant, 893 00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:46,540 I will never, ever, ever use pod track again. 894 00:55:46,540 --> 00:55:50,540 And for any other podcasters out there who are considering using pod track, 895 00:55:50,540 --> 00:55:53,540 make sure they've got their reliability problems under control 896 00:55:53,540 --> 00:55:54,540 before you switch over. 897 00:55:54,540 --> 00:55:57,540 Anyway, this is a bit of angry audio feedback from Chris 898 00:55:57,540 --> 00:55:59,540 from the financial aid podcast. 899 00:55:59,540 --> 00:56:02,540 Have a great day at him and I hope podshow does a much better job. 900 00:56:02,540 --> 00:56:03,540 Okay. 901 00:56:03,540 --> 00:56:05,540 So, the most important message here, 902 00:56:05,540 --> 00:56:06,540 you heard what he said at the end, 903 00:56:06,540 --> 00:56:09,540 make sure that you have redundancy, fail over double, 904 00:56:09,540 --> 00:56:11,540 double told lots, et cetera. 905 00:56:11,540 --> 00:56:16,540 This is why you have not seen podshow come out with 906 00:56:16,540 --> 00:56:19,540 it's offering very quickly. 907 00:56:19,540 --> 00:56:23,540 We really took some time to understand bandwidth. 908 00:56:23,540 --> 00:56:26,540 Now, of course, we spend a lot of time looking at 909 00:56:26,540 --> 00:56:29,540 solutions like bit torrent or things that big companies 910 00:56:29,540 --> 00:56:31,540 like Microsoft are looking at. 911 00:56:31,540 --> 00:56:33,540 Something that could really scale, 912 00:56:33,540 --> 00:56:36,540 but, you know, without everybody buying in 913 00:56:36,540 --> 00:56:39,540 everybody means all the aggregator developers. 914 00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:42,540 And I don't think we can count necessarily on 915 00:56:42,540 --> 00:56:45,540 the biggest one, the biggest podcast aggregator 916 00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:49,540 iTunes, you know, to necessarily see the benefit 917 00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:55,540 to themselves by participating in a bit torrent type of distribution. 918 00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:59,540 Mainly because it makes a whole bunch of people in Hollywood 919 00:56:59,540 --> 00:57:02,540 really nervous and no one wants to deal with that angst. 920 00:57:02,540 --> 00:57:04,540 I understand that, by the way. 921 00:57:05,540 --> 00:57:10,540 So we went looking for the best solution for bandwidth 922 00:57:10,540 --> 00:57:11,540 and hosting. 923 00:57:11,540 --> 00:57:12,540 And we have some experience. 924 00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:15,540 I actually had a company called the data barn, 925 00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:17,540 which was interestingly enough, 926 00:57:17,540 --> 00:57:18,540 the right idea. 927 00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:19,540 We were at a peering point. 928 00:57:19,540 --> 00:57:21,540 We had peering agreements. 929 00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:22,540 It was at the wrong time. 930 00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:25,540 We had peering agreements with, I don't know, you know, 931 00:57:25,540 --> 00:57:29,540 guys that were operated by Enron and companies like that. 932 00:57:29,540 --> 00:57:32,540 So it was called the data barn. 933 00:57:32,540 --> 00:57:35,540 It was, you know, I understand a lot more about this stuff 934 00:57:35,540 --> 00:57:40,540 than, you know, we may have really talked about on this show. 935 00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:44,540 So we spent months, literally months, 936 00:57:44,540 --> 00:57:47,540 experimenting, testing, working, talking to people. 937 00:57:47,540 --> 00:57:51,540 Now in the valley, you know, what's people used to call 938 00:57:51,540 --> 00:57:53,540 Silicon Valley, what we call valley would. 939 00:57:53,540 --> 00:57:56,540 There's almost like, and the solution you always take is, 940 00:57:56,540 --> 00:57:57,540 oh, let's just go to Akamai. 941 00:57:57,540 --> 00:57:59,540 Akamai will make it all work. 942 00:57:59,540 --> 00:58:02,540 But when iTunes came out and when, you know, 943 00:58:02,540 --> 00:58:04,540 the big bandwidth slurp took place, 944 00:58:04,540 --> 00:58:07,540 the bandwidth burp of 2005. 945 00:58:07,540 --> 00:58:10,540 We cut a real quick deal with Akamai. 946 00:58:10,540 --> 00:58:13,540 And I believe that the pricing, 947 00:58:13,540 --> 00:58:15,540 I'm just going to do this from memory, 948 00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:20,540 but the pricing for a content delivery network. 949 00:58:20,540 --> 00:58:25,540 It's pretty much between one and, you know, 950 00:58:25,540 --> 00:58:27,540 a buck to a buck 50, I'd say. 951 00:58:28,540 --> 00:58:31,540 The bigger you are, the more bandwidth you eat, 952 00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:37,540 the cheaper the price is going to get. 953 00:58:37,540 --> 00:58:39,540 What was it going to say? 954 00:58:39,540 --> 00:58:41,540 Okay, so that's, that's per gigabyte, 955 00:58:41,540 --> 00:58:43,540 per gigabyte of data transferred. 956 00:58:43,540 --> 00:58:45,540 And this is what all the, you know, 957 00:58:45,540 --> 00:58:50,540 all the big streaming hogs bandwidth hogs use, 958 00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:54,540 you know, like ABC or CBS or NBC.com 959 00:58:54,540 --> 00:58:56,540 and you look at their videos and stuff. 960 00:58:56,540 --> 00:58:58,540 And the thing that's really good is that 961 00:58:58,540 --> 00:59:00,540 the thing that is not used is that 962 00:59:00,540 --> 00:59:02,540 it's not used to use, is it? 963 00:59:02,540 --> 00:59:04,540 I think, maybe Apple doesn't Apple have a direct investment 964 00:59:04,540 --> 00:59:05,540 in Akamai. 965 00:59:05,540 --> 00:59:08,540 I think they do, or they invest like $100 million or something at some point. 966 00:59:08,540 --> 00:59:12,540 And we were really looking for a company that would fit with us, 967 00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:16,540 would understand kind of the renegade nature of podcasting 968 00:59:16,540 --> 00:59:20,540 of the idea of user generated content. 969 00:59:20,540 --> 00:59:24,540 You know, and really would work with us, 970 00:59:24,540 --> 00:59:28,540 the thing that sucks the most about independent podcasting is, 971 00:59:28,540 --> 00:59:30,540 when something catches on and people start to listen, 972 00:59:30,540 --> 00:59:32,540 that's when you run into trouble. 973 00:59:32,540 --> 00:59:34,540 And we've seen, you know, I mean, for the stuff that's 974 00:59:34,540 --> 00:59:36,540 no publicly, there's a lot of podcasts 975 00:59:36,540 --> 00:59:39,540 that have really had some major bandwidth issues. 976 00:59:39,540 --> 00:59:40,540 And it just cost money. 977 00:59:40,540 --> 00:59:44,540 Now, the company that we, so, you know, 978 00:59:44,540 --> 00:59:47,540 so we decided we needed to go with a content delivery network. 979 00:59:47,540 --> 00:59:49,540 We really have to because, you know, 980 00:59:49,540 --> 00:59:52,540 just like we're using an outside company to do 981 00:59:52,540 --> 00:59:55,540 the transaction for the pod, safe music network. 982 00:59:55,540 --> 00:59:58,540 You know, let's use some professionals who are doing this stuff all day. 983 00:59:58,540 --> 01:00:02,540 Now, this is podcasting is a little different from streaming media, okay? 984 01:00:02,540 --> 01:00:07,540 You're talking about shipping huge files all around the world, 985 01:00:07,540 --> 01:00:08,540 all around the network. 986 01:00:08,540 --> 01:00:12,540 Instead of passing bits and bytes on on demand basis. 987 01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:17,540 So you want files cached in different geographic locations. 988 01:00:17,540 --> 01:00:19,540 You want this bandwidth done, 989 01:00:19,540 --> 01:00:21,540 not through thousands of edge servers, 990 01:00:21,540 --> 01:00:23,540 but through peer networks. 991 01:00:23,540 --> 01:00:27,540 I mean, this whole, I mean, I've really made a study of this. 992 01:00:27,540 --> 01:00:29,540 And, and Ron and I worked, 993 01:00:29,540 --> 01:00:31,540 I particularly Ron, I have to say, 994 01:00:31,540 --> 01:00:35,540 worked just tirelessly with Bill Reinhardt, 995 01:00:35,540 --> 01:00:37,540 the CEO of Limelight Networks, 996 01:00:37,540 --> 01:00:41,540 to come to a deal that would really work for both of us. 997 01:00:41,540 --> 01:00:43,540 Now, I'm kind of jumping the gun here, 998 01:00:43,540 --> 01:00:44,540 a little bit. 999 01:00:44,540 --> 01:00:45,540 The pod-pimp is going to, it's going to hate me. 1000 01:00:45,540 --> 01:00:47,540 But I just wanted to let you know 1001 01:00:47,540 --> 01:00:53,540 that we have been teaming up with world-class partners. 1002 01:00:53,540 --> 01:00:57,540 And please feel free to go over and take a look at, 1003 01:00:57,540 --> 01:00:59,540 you know, what you think your bandwidth would cost 1004 01:00:59,540 --> 01:01:01,540 on a content delivery network. 1005 01:01:01,540 --> 01:01:05,540 And then know that any podcaster, 1006 01:01:05,540 --> 01:01:07,540 anybody who wants to come into the network 1007 01:01:07,540 --> 01:01:10,540 and who wants to work on building the network 1008 01:01:10,540 --> 01:01:12,540 and making the network better 1009 01:01:12,540 --> 01:01:16,540 and creating fun stuff and having a kick-ass time 1010 01:01:16,540 --> 01:01:19,540 with an actual possibility of beside social reward, 1011 01:01:19,540 --> 01:01:21,540 having financial reward, 1012 01:01:21,540 --> 01:01:24,540 you're going to get the bandwidth 1013 01:01:24,540 --> 01:01:26,540 and the hosting all for free. 1014 01:01:26,540 --> 01:01:28,540 And I'd like you to go take a look 1015 01:01:28,540 --> 01:01:30,540 and see what that would cost if you had to pay 1016 01:01:30,540 --> 01:01:32,540 for it out of your own pocket. 1017 01:01:32,540 --> 01:01:34,540 So that will be my damn announcement for the week. 1018 01:01:34,540 --> 01:01:36,540 Everybody have a fantastic weekend. 1019 01:01:36,540 --> 01:01:38,540 I'll talk to you on Monday 1020 01:01:38,540 --> 01:01:40,540 after I'm back and after I've had plenty of sex. 1021 01:01:40,540 --> 01:01:41,540 Bye-bye now. 1022 01:01:41,540 --> 01:01:44,540 Another pod-show pod guest, 1023 01:01:44,540 --> 01:01:46,540 sticking in your ear.