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Than the next generation radio content in my ears.

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We don't need lost, thinking crazy.

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I like to think I'm flying into this journey.

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It's so curry.

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I don't know if it's the resurrection of Jimmy.

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But it will definitely put you in the mood for today.

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It's Tuesday, Daily Source Co.

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From the curry cottage.

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Set the next on fire then.

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Oh man, the substitutes got his cocaine, not an endorsement of the drug, which by the way

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I've never done in my entire life, can you believe that?

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All the rock and roll showbiz I've been a part of, it's never even been offered to me.

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That's right, that's actually something that when you think about it, maybe it's interesting,

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maybe it's strange to you, but I've never swallowed anything, never snorted anything, never

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injected anything, and it really never had any, any, any need to, but honestly, I don't drink

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Hey, everybody, how are you doing? It's Tuesday. Come to you from Curry Cottage. This is the

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Daily Source Code. It's a big audio feedback today on the show, plenty of cool comments that

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came in, including one from our friend, comic strip blogger. If you've never, or if you'd like

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to put a voice to the interesting and varied postings that he puts on my Curry.com web

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blog, then stay tuned for that update. Well, first of all, I want to thank everybody for all the

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beautiful thoughts and prayers and poems, and just words of inspiration about the passing of

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Jessie are beautiful, beautiful. By the way, I don't think I told you she's a mixed breed,

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she was a mixed breed of golden retriever and German shepherd, just beautiful.

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And today, this glossy magazine, this beautiful photo shoot, this series that Patricia did for

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a magazine called Beaumont, which, of course, is like a fashion magazine. One of the pictures

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is Patricia on the downs, just looking fabulous with a, you know, with a white like Russian hat and

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a faux fur coat, and that she has a swubber, who's our little Yorkie, who

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barks for three, as you heard yesterday on the show, and Jessie, the last picture of her alive.

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As just kind of heart-wrenching, but thank you very much. It's, it's much appreciated and I've

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been sharing all of those with Patricia and Christina as well. Thanks. Legal update. Um,

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yesterday, of course, after I'd already done the show, the publisher of the magazine that

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published the stolen pictures stolen because they were taken from Flickr from my account on Flickr,

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which clearly states they're available there under the, uh, attribution, non-commercial share,

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or like license. Uh, so these guys, apparently, are a little worried about taking this to court.

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retraction and an apology on page four, and we'll pay you 1,500 euros. Which is about, uh,

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what was that? That's like, uh, 1750 bucks or something like that. It's not about the money you

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you guys. Um, what is very interesting, though, the, the apology that they said that they would publish

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along with the, you know, if we accepted their, um, their settlement basically says, and I'm just

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paraphrasing the translation here. Uh, we published pictures that we had no rights to publish. We

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apologize to the curry family. Hold on, that's my blackberry still. Which, of course, is, uh,

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is true. Uh, but, you know, that, that is not going to get you out of this. I mean, no way. No way.

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to consider our offer. We're still going to publish the apology. So they're basically already

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admitting guilt, which is really smart guys. But I'm holding out, not from money. I'm not holding

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out from money. I'm holding out so that we have proof that you did something wrong and that we have

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your spruedance and we can use that moving forward. And then, of course, there's a whole child

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endangerment thing, which is when I'm really, really emotional about, um, although I, uh, knowing the

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Dutch court system, again, this is a court system that does not have a jury. They have a professional

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judge system. And judges will decide the case. And what's interesting is because the court

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system is so overloaded when they run out of judges, they hire lawyers to become back of judges.

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It's a fucked up stupid system. It really is. But this time, I do have the law on my side.

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Certainly, when it comes to the pictures, the endangerment of a child piece, I think that's open to

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interpretation by a by a judge. Because, you know, obviously, when you're a celebrity, then,

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different rules adhere. And if you don't think it's true, do you just have to take my word for it?

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from a podcasting perspective. And I wanted to start off with that today. Because it's something,

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Listen to the comment first. Hey, Adam, this is Cory from sportshawks.com. That's SPORTS HAAWKS.com.

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I wanted to comment about something that I've noticed in the podcasting community to start off.

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there's a celebrities. And I can understand that. And I, to, I agree with them to a certain extent.

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But I think that we are a better kind of celebrity than a Tom Cruise or someone of that nature is.

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You know, we have this movement that's revolutionizing the media industry. If not the world,

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we're getting all this exposure, even if the BBC still thinks it's recently or suddenly.

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We have thousands of listeners subscribe to our shows going to the websites and downloading the MP3s.

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But we're still ordinary people. And I really think that there's more to that.

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You know, while we enjoy the success, we shouldn't forget where we started out. Us podcasters,

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checking out the latest software, trying to, you know, scratch together some kind of show,

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figuring out how to upload your audio files and host them, having all these problems with RSS feeds and XML.

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need to remember that we are not better than anyone else. We're still regular people.

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comments or responding to emails, something, right? But staying connected and in touch with our fans

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You know, Kevin Reeves, the recording artist, two things, the song shine. Believe you played him about

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a month ago. Kevin and I started talking, right? And now both of us,

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produced by SportsHawks.com. And I just wanted to say that I think it's awesome how this community

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of podcasters works together to, you know, to do any kind of projects. And just it's great. I love it.

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I'll send you a promo in about a week or so. Peace.

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All right, man, looking forward to the promo. And thank you very much for opening this

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conversation, this topic of discussion. Because, and I'm obviously speaking from my own personal

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experience here, I've been a, and I'll just say, quote, celebrity in Europe, have been a celebrity

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in the United States. And I would venture to say, I'm a celebrity in podcasting. What's interesting

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is that the, and this, I've witnessed this all throughout my life. What people always will say

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is that it is the celebrity that has changed and doesn't care about their audience anymore.

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This is just not true. What happens is exactly the opposite. The people around you change that

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attitude towards you. By the way, celebrity from the dictionary.com, a famous person or

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field of philosophy. And so, well, let's take Tom Cruise as an example.

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I can only imagine what this guy goes through. I don't know him personally. I can only imagine

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what he goes through. If you just open up any magazine, open up any newspaper,

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listen to anyone who talks about movies or actors, and they piss on him. Nine times out of ten,

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you are celebrated for doing something interesting or good or being a hero, as they say here,

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or social celebrity, that's when it all starts. At first, it's like, hey, go, man, that's great.

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to cast their own shadow over you. And if you go ahead and look at podcast alley or any other

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forum or lots of postings around the internet about podcasting, there's a lot of negativity,

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a lot of bad vibes, particularly directed towards me. And although I understand why people do this,

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I think I understand the philosophy, it is not the celebrities who lose touch with their fanbase.

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The fanbase usually grows so big that you can't just handle it anymore.

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You know, and so what some people do is they get a secretary to read through the email.

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And people actually suppose that. You know, say, oh, well, he probably doesn't read his own email,

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and someone else is doing that for doesn't care about the fans. It's, it's, you have no idea

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what goes on. You really don't. And a lot of this stuff is really hurtful. Particularly if you're

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still trying to do the same thing that you set out to do when you started your career, whether it's

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in writing or acting or movies or podcasting or music or whatever it is. You know, look at Madonna,

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do you think it's nice to read what they write about her, about her body, about her family, about her life?

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the celebrity. Now, of course, this is something that I believe is embedded in human nature.

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So I can't take, I don't take it personally. I can't hold any responsible, and anybody

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responsible for for what happens. But it really is something that just happens over and over and

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over and again, and I've had multiple careers in different forms of entertainment, different forms of

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business, and it is just unbelievable what people will write, what they'll, you know, the conspiracy

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theories, it's, you know, and you actually set this up very interestingly with your comment,

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you know, like we've got a nice little community. And then what happens is when someone

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rises up above that community, could chunk, it's time the chopper's head off. And

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oh, man. Oh, wait, like Barry, don't do that. Wow, these new, so I got the new

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bottle model blackberry, which is the, what is it? This 7900 something. It seems to be even worse

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with disturbance on equipment than the previous one. And this stuff is very difficult to explain

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if you haven't witnessed it firsthand. You really, you really don't know what it's like.

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So I think that you might want to take a look inside yourself. And sure, people do wacky shit.

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You know, Tom Cruise jumping up and down on the couch in front of Oprah is pretty fucking wacky,

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but you know what, it was frustration. Here's a guy who has just been beaten to a pulp.

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People are rude to him and look, and again, I don't know him, but I see what happens. And I do

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feel bad for him. And just open up any gossip magazine. Yeah, it's really funny. It's very funny.

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It's funny to make little puns and make jokes or come up with conspiracy theories about what they're

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doing. But when it's you, it's not so funny. Particularly when you're like, hey, dude, I didn't

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change anything. This is just how I am. And you know, people start to microanalyze and scrutinize

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everything you do. So look at yourself first before you start to say that a celebrity has

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gone off the scale or jump the shark or off his rocker. Dude, I'm still the same guy,

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sitting the same freaking cottage. In fact, I downgraded from a castle to a cottage. Just trying

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to make things happen. Just trying to make things work. And we're getting pretty close to sharing

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a lot of that love with the podcasting community. Um, to anyway, take a look inside yourself

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before you start to project onto celebrities in any field of expertise. Let's move on. Shall we?

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Don't want to get depressed or anything. What's this from the School of Podcasting?

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Hey, Adam. This is Dave Jackson from the School of Podcasting.com and the Musicians Cooler.

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Got a quick creative commons question for you. Realize that you're going to probably turn into

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the creative commons genius here in the near future. And if with all the different options available

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to podcasts, just now to have advertising in their podcast, is that then officially make them a

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commercial podcast. And if so, does that then stop them from playing music from the podcast

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safe music network, realizing that some of that creative commons licensing may have some issues

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with commercial podcasts. So as we all plan for the future, and we all started thinking about

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adding advertising to our podcast, is that something that's going to kind of screw things up

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with playing podcast safe music. Love the daily source code. And I wish you all the best of luck

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with your court case, and I really hope you stick it to those bastards. See you later, Adam.

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Thank you. Okay. So just to reiterate, the term pod safe music, which was coined during a,

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as far as I can recall, I got to be so careful about saying this stuff. As far as I can recall,

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during a trade secrets with Dave Winner, myself, we came up with the concept of pod safe music.

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That's, it's a pretty broad concept. Essentially, it means that you've received permission to

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play this and all fees associated with broadcast or performance rights or synchronization rights,

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or what have you have been waived. So whether you have creative commons, whether,

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well, I can only really speak for the, for the situation in the United States, because the

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ASCAD BMI definitely works differently than in other countries, particularly in Europe.

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But as a copyright owner, if you own the copyrights to your work, you can determine whatever you want.

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You can write a license to the daily source code that says you have to pay a thousand dollars per

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each time you, you play a song and you can give it away free for someone else. It's up to you.

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It's your property. You know, that's what it's about. Copyright is your property.

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Now, you can license a piece of work under different licenses for different people. That's very,

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very normal. So if you have a creative commons license, and that would conflict with being played

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in a podcast that is commercial by nature or has a commercial zenith, then the creative

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commons license that you choose, if you had for instance a non-commercial creative license,

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well, then it could not be used. Now, the difference here is on the podcast music network,

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music.podshow.com. When you sign up as an artist, you are basically creating a new specific

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license for other podcasts that are registered on the system. And it makes no difference whether

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they're commercial or not, the license means they can play your stuff as long as they

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report it back into the network. And by the way, as we're moving forward on development,

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that reporting process is going to become automatic. So you won't have to think about it anymore.

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You can just play it. You can actually mix it, mash it. If all goes according to plan,

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it'll still show up as played in the podcast music network, which also means, and I'm hoping,

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and we've got the George the Russian scientist working on this stuff, that if you were to use a

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little piece of music to mix it into a promo or something, that it would also would be

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accredited at the podcast music network. That's some of the technology behind it all that we hope

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to be coming out with soon. And we will be talking more about the podcast music network and pricing,

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since I didn't get to that yesterday when Patricia walked in. But you know what, I don't mind,

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she walked in, you know, came on the show, it's cool. Aloha from Mikey Key Adam. This is Kurt

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from the digital slot pod at digitalslob.com. Look, I know you've got to be busy right now,

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but I just wanted to bring up something that's surely occurred to you, but maybe not all of your listeners.

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And that is that there is a large fraction of people out there who don't listen to podcasts with an iPod,

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or even an MP3 player, like me, for example. Sure, I mean, I give my iPod some fresh air every now and then,

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but probably 50 to 60% of the time I'm listening on my I'm hacking my comfy chair.

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As a digital slot, I've really got to have a good reason to leave my comfy chair. Anyway,

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I've got this my space page and many of my friends email me saying, hey, Kurt, I'd listen to your show,

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but I don't have an iPod yet. So it seems like dozens of times I've had to email them,

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telling them that their computer isn't MP3 player. I think there's still a big education task out there ahead of us.

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I know Rob over at podcast 411 has been doing a lot to educate the potential

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podcasting, listening populace out there. And no matter how many listeners you've got now,

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you're kidding yourself if you think everybody out there knows what the hell is going on in the podcasting world.

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But I just wanted it to suggest, I know I'm preaching to the converted here,

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but I just wanted it to suggest that all podcasters and podcasting listeners for that matter,

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spread the word that basically, you know, you don't need a fly to kill a fly swatter.

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You don't need a sponge to make a sponge cake, and you don't need an iPod to hear a podcast.

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Just a kind public service suggestion from your friendly neighborhood digital slot.

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Mahalo Adam and Aloha.

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Aloha, my friend. Aloha to you too.

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Absolutely right. And we do need to do a lot of work on that.

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I have heard so many times. I don't have an iPod, so I don't think I can get podcast.

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Yes, you're very right about that. That is, of course, the drawback to the name,

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which on the other hand got us a lot of traction. And we definitely, you know,

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lead stuff of the iPod to get that traction. So, and let's be honest, the majority of portable

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players that are marketed as portable players, I'm talking about cell phones, are of course iPods.

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But yes, this is a big part of what we're doing with at pod show.

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When we start our campaign, which as soon as the PDN is launched and we're getting people into

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the network, then we're going to go on our 100 million listener march. And a big part of it is

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saying, come over here, enjoy podcasts. We're not going to put the RSS, you know, stuff up at the top.

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is geared specifically towards the podcast community. And I think there's a very different way to

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look at a show site. It shouldn't necessarily have to be a weblog. It is by default from

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many people because it easily creates the required RSS feed. But we're going to, we've actually

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done quite a lot of work on trying to make this as easy as possible. And really to get the

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listeners involved, give them tools so that they can get involved with their podcasts, promote their

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favorite podcasts. And also, talk amongst themselves. And that will be a part of what we're launching

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a couple of products. Of course, we have the pod show delivery network. We have pod show plus,

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and we have my pod show. Ah, is there enough pod show in there? I think so. So be on the look out

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for that. And indeed, make sure, if you just tell one person, they're going to tell someone else.

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don't understand it and can't parse the information of what a podcast is. How do I listen to it?

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And that definitely is up to us. So if you're listening to this before, um, you hear that my

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Dutch slept in. Eccrepted. I was going to say, if you are, for instance, listening to this show

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on serious satellite stars 103, and you want to know more about podcasting, and you don't have

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an iPod, no worries, because you can just go to any computer, or you can go to podshow.com.

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If you want to go to this show, go to dailysourcecode.com. You can click on the link where it actually

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says direct link to the show, and you can listen to it right there on your computer. You can download

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that. You can burn it onto a CD. Um, you could email that to someone. You could file share it. I mean,

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all of that is completely cool. And that is what podcasting offers in its consumption mechanisms.

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Speaking of those very same people who are checking us out on the serious satellite stars 103,

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one channel over from Howard Stern these days. Um, the satellite windows closing up next will be

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Pacific Coast Hillway followed by Madge Weinstein, and of course followed by Donor Drew. And I'll

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talk to you guys tomorrow for the hump day edition of your Delta Sierra Charlie.

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I got this great countdown timer called Countdown Clock. I'm running it on the, uh, on the

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PC, where I use cast blaster these days. And that's the default sound when your timer is up. I thought

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it was just now. I hope it's part safe, by the way. Hi, I don't carry. Here is comics trip

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blogger, and I would like to ask you two questions. First, uh, when approximately this podcast

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delivery network will be starting, I'm interested in it, and I presumed that a lot of other people

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are interested. Second question, what does Shiba model have you purchased? I also have Toshiba

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not book. I have tablet PC, but probably you don't have tablet PC. So what Toshiba model

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have you purchased? I am just interested. Thank you. Bye. There he is, ladies and gentlemen.

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The illustrious comic strip blogger, who, um, depending on his mood, has something interesting to

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say, or something interesting to say in a very fall way. Comics strip blogger, uh, the podcast delivery

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network. Um, well, it's going into beta. Uh, I believe this week, as we signed up a whole bunch

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of podcasters. Uh, well, actually, we, we made an offer, uh, and most of them signed up, which, uh,

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I met with just as many people as I could at the portable media expo. And, uh, internally, we call

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these people the super 30 or the data 30 or whatever you want to call them, but they know that they're

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coming in to try out this new system. Of course, the delivery network part, um, uh, is crucial.

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to, you know, so we just don't want to go through any of the, you know, if you get successful

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and this, this stuff really works and we got a hundred million listeners coming in and we got

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stuff rocking and rolling. We don't want bandwidth and scalability issues to be a problem. Um,

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so that part we saw. That's, that really took the longest and, uh, these first podcasters who

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were joining the network will come in and they're going to help us figure it out. I don't think

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it'll take very long, uh, after that before we start letting more podcasters come in, um, and,

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you know, of course, with that comes, uh, comes the offering. Um, and it will be free.

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I just want to reiterate that free. They'll be the different levels of what you can do with, uh,

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with podshow. Because we've noted me, you know, we've never made any, uh, any secret that we're about

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helping you make money, helping us make money, and actually helping your listeners make money as well.

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you know, we're not going to probably open the door wide open for everyone to come rushing in.

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going to do, um, you know, like open the door for 100 people at our time, or the invite system is

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one way, but that's not, that really doesn't help you with scalability. That's just kind of like the

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hype it up. I don't think we need to do that. Um, and the second question, come extra blogger,

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is that I'm marking on it? It is the 205 series. It's the one that comes with an external, uh,

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CD DVD, uh, reader and burner. The thing weighs nothing, it weighs like, you know, less than a pound.

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battery life. So if I needed to do something in a pinch on the road, I could even with the internal

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microphone, uh, using cast blaster. Um, and, uh, yeah, it's, uh, it's a nice machine. I'm liking it.

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I still do not like the windows experience, but hey, at least I can, uh, use it without the audio

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stuttering. It's funny. You know, Apple, of course, recommends to get rid of this audio stutter, which is,

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you know, incorrect that that's happening on a very expensive laptop. You know, their fix for now

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is only use one audio application at a time. And of course, that doesn't work because you need to

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have more audio applications open on the Mac in order to make it work. Interesting enough with

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cast blaster, I only have one audio application open at a time, but it does work and it does get me where

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I want to be. Hello Adam. I have a pretty big announcement to make to do a podcasting community,

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but first of all, for those who don't know, uh, what my show looks like. Let's, uh, give a little

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preview of it. 1984 won't be like 1984. Good your iPod, iPod tier, you like your Mac and I like your

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Mac and I don't like the past. Apple, Apple, and the Mac and Has, of all of the scenes I've ever

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seen is the only one that meets up here in the iPod, a thousand songs in the past. If today were the last

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day of my life, what I want to do, what I'm about to do today. So I'm back on the microphone and

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if today was the last day of my life, would I want to do what I'm going to do today? That's the

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question I asked myself. And I answered the question by taking a pretty important decision.

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I actually currently am a freelance IT man, so a freelance developer, so to be honest, I can

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make a shit lot of money. But I'm going to stop this in three weeks and I'm going to start

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earning almost no money because I'm going to turn to be a 100% podcaster. Actually, I'm going to be

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kind of 50% podcaster and 50% feather because I will be getting something really nice with

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my girlfriend to get her in a few weeks. And that's one of the reasons why I hit this opportunity.

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So I will go ahead and I kind of quit my day job, but my day job was paying really well. And I

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stopped this whole thing just for the last of the forthcoming baby and also for the last

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of my show, which is called Pampampampampampampampampampampamp. As you know, and which is a show about

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all Mac things, all Mac and iPad things. And it's in French, as you may know, but it's also

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in English. And the third show is online with the Eddie Kim, the guy from Potion Factory,

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that come the makers of Potcast Maker. And we also have the show in German and who knows

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in which language we might do it in the future. So Adam, thank you for what all the things

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you have done. And thank you for the PMM and thank you for the forthcoming PDM that I expect to use.

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Soon. And by the way, I also, I would like, I don't know what I have to do to that. Maybe I have to

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secure. As the first multi-speaking membrer of it. So whatever, I

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would have to do. I'm kind of ready for everything, just for the importance of podcasting.

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So, you'll soon owe everybody and return to pampampampampampampampampampampampampampampampampampampampampampamp

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Yeah, this is also a message to my listeners that's still going to know that three weeks from now I will be in trial

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You're doing your do fantastic congratulations on both counts by the way on quitting your day job doing a full-time and on the pending

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release on the fatherhood

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You know, let's quit. I think I mentioned this. I don't know if I did it last week, but in like two days in succession

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Three people found out they were pregnant in a pod show

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Actually, it was three guys to find out the girlfriends or wives were pregnant, but you know basically we say you're pregnant

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And it's just wow, what a boom, you know

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Fantastic and of course you will be more than welcome palm cast to join the

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People there is nothing

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Oh, you can find that at the PodsA music network music dot pod show dot com lots of talk about the PodsA music network in the next couple minutes, but first I want to welcome a new podcast to the pod show network

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If you have kids who can or in within earshot, you may want to turn the volume down. It's not entirely family safe this promo, but welcome squad cast.

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Hello, we have to cut a promo. Yes, we do. Yes, you do. He's got to do it. Can he just put them on hold?

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I got the nod

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May which means fuck you

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I've known you guys for 15 years, and this is the way out here about who get together. We watch videos. We'd exchange gifts and shit

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So you've installed iTunes and you're listening to music on your computer. No, no, no, so she's just called me

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It's not what I said. You didn't let him finish Larry. He was listening on his computer. No, go ahead. No, still no

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Get him my kind of call. Hey Adam. Hey

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Daily source code listeners. I'm Scott. I'm here with my friend Anthony. Hello. We are from the squad cast

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squad cast is a weekly show of actually four idiots is just kind of hang around and talk shit and be stupid in whatever and

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For some unknown reason Adam wants us to join the pod show there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean maybe he had us head on something

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Maybe we could have a week moment. I don't he is a fan of this and say I'm guessing somebody swapped it out with I'm gonna go with our snick and

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Here we are

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Really happy to be here. Uh, hopefully you just those of you haven't checked out the shows swing by and take peek-a-boo yarn

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What we do you like to say we're you know, it's a sponge four guys Gavin about nothing and

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Okay, she will hook up with some other shows and I have them do stick to shit. There's some fun things right right

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So if you get some time come and check us out and add them thanks for inviting us

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And I didn't hit my head

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The only criteria is if you want to join the networkers

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You want to help make them that work grow and you want to grow your audience and you want to work towards quitting your day job. That's all

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That's all that it takes you know

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He's gonna get back to me with a better lineup of the venues as he starts to figure that out. Let me just read the email

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Okay, we're playing a one hour round of original pod safe tunes at the French Quarter Cafe and Nashville 10 to see French Quarter Cafe.com

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That's Tuesday January 31st at 9 p.m. During Jack Scott's writers night

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No, that's interesting. Venue is all ages no cover full menu with great gumbo

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If we ever get a real supported pod safe showcase going on and can't get a whole high profile

388
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Then you like third and Lindsey or the exit. I don't even know these venues

389
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,440
This place has a huge stage full-back line drums. Well, you know what? I think that this will be able to happen

390
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I think we will be able to do pod safe music showcase as I think that

391
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It's something that we really haven't worked on yet

392
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,920
That's why I played big mics two or dates yesterday

393
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:10,480
That's another way that podcasters can really help with the with the artist by the way

394
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This is what traditional radio really has cornered pretty well, and you know the reason why clear channel has a huge concert promotion business is

395
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Airplay really promotes

396
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Live venues and so I believe the same can work with with pod casting and it could work very much on a meet-up like scale

397
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You know where we have local chapters of pod safe showcases and

398
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They put together promos that Daniel can run throughout the network or individuals can oh my god

399
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I have a heartburn you won't believe

400
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Oh

401
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,920
Oh, man, hold on let me take something for that. So they with me. Okay. Lay it open up the other mics so you can hear me actually travel over here

402
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Now I've got to get something for this out of my coat pocket

403
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,240
You know what that is. It's too much freaking senseo hold on

404
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,560
Where's my emergency stash?

405
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Here we go. Oh, yes

406
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,560
Sorry, I'm desperate need of a

407
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,120
Calcium product here. Okay, let me go excuse me while I put pop this in my mouth. Oh

408
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,560
Okay

409
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,760
Anyway, so I think that can really work check out

410
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,920
Matthew ebel.com for more information and of course for beer and coffee

411
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,920
Which is the name of his lifestyle?

412
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,240
yesterday

413
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:30,720
I didn't quite get to the pricing. I've gotten so many requests in your information about okay

414
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:34,080
So you guys are going to start selling tracks on pod safe music network

415
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:40,240
Which is really just that. I mean all we're doing is enabling the commerce portion now to make this the whole

416
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:45,600
Unlabel concept we have to be able to enable podcasters and listeners to help promote

417
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:51,840
And the easiest way it seems to me is through a kind of affiliate network so you just you know post a

418
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:58,720
Logo link a button whatever it is to to the artist page when the pod safe music network and right there

419
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:03,680
Any tracks that they have enabled. It's not obligatory or compulsory that they've enabled for

420
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,240
Purchase can be purchased right there

421
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,840
What surprises me is that

422
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Just a ton of people are saying what's the split's going to be now? I

423
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,680
Let me just talk about this for a second. I'm not a big believer in

424
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Let me back up laying back up. I'll tell you what I'm a I am a big believer in is is making this work

425
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,760
I'm not a big believer when it let's just take an example of these these ad sharing networks now

426
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,720
You know for Google to do ad cents. I know I'm confusing topics here, but it's just want to get it all out

427
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:45,520
When Google does ad cents the volume the sheer scale of this is so incredibly large

428
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,160
That it it works with podcasting. I don't know about

429
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,280
Advertisers showing up with their credit card and saying you know give me a couple spots here a couple spots there

430
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,720
I think that that's going to be very disappointing. I believe much more in taking the risk and guarantee

431
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:06,320
Payment based upon performance where the we sell advertising or not and that is and by the way

432
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Advertising is not just inserts before after a podcast. Yeah, of course. It's a part of that

433
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:18,320
But that's not the end all the be all that we believe in valuing the relationship between the podcaster

434
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:24,800
And their audience whether you have a hundred thousand or a hundred listeners makes no difference you will be able to participate

435
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,560
In sponsorship opportunities at pod show

436
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:37,360
So we don't talk about splits. You know we guarantee money. That's what we do and we go off and we bust our ass and go make the money for you

437
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,680
So you have no risk that you put on yourself. We take the risk. Okay

438
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,760
Now about the pod safe music network

439
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:52,160
I really don't know. I mean we have all kinds of thoughts and ideas and no one can really tell me exactly what it cost

440
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:59,200
99 cents song what you wind up having or what you wind up getting as an artist as an independent artist that is

441
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,040
It kind of it's all over the map and it depends of course in how much you sell

442
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,680
I think this is something that we have to figure out and I think that the beta part of this

443
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:14,240
Of this program we're just going to roll it out see if it works get make sure people are happy with the entire purchasing experience

444
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,920
And we should figure out you know what the actual cost is going to be what the split should be and really

445
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:26,240
I'd like to turn around and say I'd like to hear from pod safe artists how much they're willing to split

446
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,320
with people who help themselves. So what do you think is fair?

447
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,440
And let's just take our 99 cent model. Let's not talk about percentages. Let's talk about cents. You know real pennies here

448
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:46,080
What do you think is a fair amount if if someone sends a buyer from a podcast show side or a

449
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:53,360
listener a fan who has promoted your music or maybe someone who created a music video using your music

450
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:59,200
You know if if a sale results of that what would you like to give away to the the promoters of the music

451
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,080
Tell me that and then make it a lot simpler to start and break it down

452
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:07,680
One things for sure as we enter this beta period and I'm just going to say this will be three months this beta period

453
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,680
Isn't we need three months to get through it

454
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:16,800
We're going to take no money from this everything will go to the artist except for the actual credit card transaction fee

455
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,800
Which I think is like nine or ten cents

456
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,040
off of the

457
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,040
You know off of your theoretical dollar

458
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:30,080
You're 99 cents because that's a hard cost us everything else. You know I don't even want to get into it if we start

459
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,400
Talking about splits first before we actually get anything going

460
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,080
I think it could it could really bring down the whole concept so pod show will take

461
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,560
Nothing while we roll this out and beta and we're going to work on this together

462
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,200
And we're going to come to something that's fair and we'll lay out our costs on the line and we'll see what we can come up with

463
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:54,480
I've never considered this to be a huge money making opportunity for for pod show

464
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,040
In fact we've never even put the pod save music network

465
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,840
I don't think it's even in any of our projections. It may be in the back of our mind, but dude

466
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,640
We have to have so much success before something like this you know it starts to pay off

467
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,800
Even pay off the cost of the people working on the pod save music network, but that's not the point

468
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,360
I'm looking at the overall

469
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,640
The bigger picture of what this can really mean and how we can undermine

470
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,880
Well, I'm not out to undermine the music industry, but let's make some stuff right let's create our own industry

471
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,200
And let's not go straight into the split's conversation so we're just going to say hey, fine

472
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,560
We'll take nothing while we figure it all out for the first three months and it's going to be up to the artists

473
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,960
Primarily to feed that back to us and remember

474
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,560
The unlabeled consists of the infrastructure the consists of the network

475
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,680
podcast a consist of the pod save music network, but really consists of listeners

476
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,360
fans

477
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:55,760
Who can also be podcasters at the same time, of course, and just podcasters who who love to play the music who are going to help promote this

478
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,160
That's what's working

479
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,160
Okay, so

480
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,160
Let me know what you think

481
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:07,760
That split should be and we'll work on that, you know, and we'll we'll come up with something in the next couple of months that everyone will be happy with

482
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,840
It's the same way we

483
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,240
We start the pod save music network to start with, you know, we had terms and conditions we got some feedback

484
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,280
We changed them no big deal and everyone was cool with the changes all they must say Cory

485
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,000
Doctor was never reported on that change after he wrote that

486
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:26,080
That article I'm boying, but that's okay. That's very typical of him, I guess

487
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,440
Hey, low strawberry barking for three again

488
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,520
Okay, so we've gone through that

489
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,520
Oh, had another comment here

490
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,360
Brendan Bulger Adam or Bulger, or maybe I enjoy this so each day and have been listening for the past few months

491
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,760
And this is based on Patricia's comment from yesterday the gaelic language is alive and well

492
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,200
There's some podcast in the language google podcast and gaeli

493
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:58,960
Patricia said who wants to hear gaelic? I said no baby. That's not the point anyone who wants to should be able to and in fact

494
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,120
In Ireland the European Union will recognize Irish is one of the national languages next year

495
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:10,880
I guess that's gaelic then a gaelic derivative and check this Microsoft release windows XP in office

496
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,640
2003 in ilish Irish gaelic just last year so

497
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,960
Wow, I wonder if I could learn gaelic that might be kind of cool

498
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,760
Just be able to throw some gaelic out there

499
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,440
This heartburn is killing me

500
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:33,600
Okay, a couple more pieces of the audio feedback this one really tickled me. I didn't think anyone would actually take the Walmart challenge, but yep, somebody has

501
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:46,560
Ladies and gentlemen, at times, there is my kids

502
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:55,200
Welcome to Walmart. That's right. I'm hurry to you remember this

503
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,880
And it's said one of these lists which I thought was pretty funny. It's 15 things to do at a Walmart while your

504
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,440
Spouser partner is taking their sweet time and

505
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:15,680
So this list of 15 things which I think are pretty funny. They would be even funnier if someone actually recorded doing these any one of these 15 things at Walmart

506
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:22,000
And if you send me if you send me any one of these will you actually do it like a sound seeing tour setup?

507
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000
I'll send you a t-shirt

508
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,840
Make a trail of tomato juice or should I say tomato juice on the floor leading to the rest rooms

509
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:38,720
I'm pushing my cart and hopefully this works. What I've got in my pocket. I've got a small

510
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,240
Sunni deep bottle of the kind of plastic one the kind of fine

511
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,880
I can your lunch bag

512
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:51,280
And two in and why does I have to the bottom and I drill the small hole and in that hole I stuck a

513
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,480
A piece of tubing from the fish deck

514
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,320
And I've got this thing in my coat pocket. I've got a little hole on the inside of my coat pocket

515
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:07,520
And then running inside my pants down my pants ladies this too and it this works that I can reach in my pocket

516
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,320
And undo the clamp on the fish

517
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:19,120
hose and the tomato juice that is now in the Sunni deep bottle will run down the tube and onto the floor

518
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,000
And it will be very discreet. Let's see how this works

519
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:30,880
All right, have I done the clamp? I'm going to try to keep moving while I did this so I'm very

520
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,880
Inconpicuous

521
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,120
All right, it's dribbling out

522
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,480
Okay, it's really stuck into

523
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,080
Flow well

524
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,720
Okay, now I'm here

525
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,360
I'm afraid to pull that look at it

526
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,000
And that's gross, is that not cool?

527
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,960
I'm going to keep going. I'm going to grab and go on in the bathroom

528
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,960
While handling guns in the hunting department, ask the clerk if he knows where the antidepressants are

529
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,720
Hey, could I look at that one chest or anything over there

530
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,400
This one is this one right here. Okay, I'm going to start

531
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,120
You go sir

532
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,840
It's really nice

533
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,280
How about how about how much is this thing? I'll talk to you since you're not

534
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:38,880
All right cool. How about can you go? How about that limit to right next up?

535
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,360
Let's see what I'll try to do

536
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:44,880
You go sir

537
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,840
Does this shoot pretty?

538
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,840
Straighten them to go and pull my stuff

539
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,240
Have you ever shot it?

540
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:54,240
No sir, but

541
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,240
The way the staffs

542
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,240
Otherwise it returns, I'm guessing it's a pretty good

543
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,280
Okay, great. Can you go? Hey, you got a question

544
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,480
Um

545
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,480
Where do they sell the antidepressants?

546
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,480
Excuse me sir

547
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,680
Hey, yeah, antidepressants. Where can I find the antidepressants?

548
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,280
The antidepressants

549
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,480
The antidepressants

550
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:14,720
The pharmacy

551
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,480
I can't break them out. Great great. Well, I appreciate your help

552
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,280
Yeah, that's me

553
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,480
Well, I wonder if you want to get the entire trip filled with me in a Walmart with a bedtime story's

554
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,880
My kids love it. Don't be dumb. You got me at mkl.com

555
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,560
Oh, yeah, mb was an extra large. Bye, antidepressants

556
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,880
Oh

557
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,120
Extra large antidepressants away my friend

558
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,920
I only heard the promo. I haven't listened to them

559
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,320
I hope you did all 15 of them

560
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,320
That's so mean

561
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,760
We got to get your better recording system though because the quality was

562
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,560
Unfortunately it would be so much nicer. We had nice

563
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,720
Broad stereo phonic binorals sound nice and clear, but

564
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,920
Very cool

565
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,560
Man, that's excellent. I have like 20 more things I would want to do but we're already at 53 minutes

566
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,760
So I'm gonna leave it at that for now tomorrow be back of course with the

567
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,120
With the hum day and mid week edition of the daily source code and enjoy the rest of your day

568
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,240
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569
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570
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,720
Doesn't have to be on an iPod

571
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572
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