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Mother nature of Merid Jane

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What have you done

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The Court of Breetingers

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Val Davis from the plain情 es Nietzsche

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I'm music.podshow.com.

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Hey, everybody, how you doing?

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It's Wednesday, halfway through the week back

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at the cottage in Gilford, the affluent suburb of Surrey

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in the United Kingdom.

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It's a beautiful day today.

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It is very, very cold, but it's one of those days where

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you can see for miles and miles and miles, the sun is shining.

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There's a little bit of wind, which would actually be beautiful

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for flying today.

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Wouldn't it?

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I got to call the wind commander.

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See, when I can pick up the delta-share, delta-share.

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So, boy, I'm pretty wrecked.

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I'm tired.

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It's been a lot of travel in the past a few weeks.

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get to sit here with the girls.

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That stretch will last for about 11 days, then

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it's back on the road, more about that in a bit.

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And yesterday, of course, the big lawsuit held at the court

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in Amsterdam, the Netherlands,

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plaintiffs, being myself, my wife and my daughter,

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against the Outdox Publishing Corporation,

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the gossip rag weekend.

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because there's a co-ed leadership there, personally.

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and tell you what went on and what went down and what happened,

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what better way to do it, then, to do it with my co-plaintive,

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the lovely Patricia Pi, who was up here during the,

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during the, during the weeds, so on.

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And that you had a cup of tea, and I said,

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well, you didn't bring any from me?

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but there you go.

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That's the kind of, that's the kind of gal she is.

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She'll be back in a couple minutes and we'll talk about that.

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Lots of other things I want to try and get to today.

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Let me see, what should we do?

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Okay, just because this is time sensitive.

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Let me get this out of the way right now,

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because I promise Steve, I would do it.

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Here we go.

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In three, two, one.

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Hi, this is Steve Webb with the Lightspring podcast.

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Lightspring is a podcast that answers some of the questions

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that everybody has about God, Jesus, and Faith,

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whether you're to believe her or not.

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In three, two, one.

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So if you don't normally listen to Godcast,

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I'm extending this invitation to you.

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Yes, you.

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You can find the show at lightspringpodcast.com

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or search iTunes for Lightspring.

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Two, one.

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In this week's episode, I answer the question of whether or not

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there's power in prayer.

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What do you think?

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Is there power in prayer?

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Take a listen to the podcast.

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My answer might just surprise you.

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Of course, life's spring is happy to be a member

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of the pod show podcast network.

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And I've been hitting you right between the years

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with a message of hope, love, and good news

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since October, 2004.

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Two, one.

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I dare you.

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Take a listen to the lightspring podcast.

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This week at lightspringpodcast.com.

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All right, Steve.

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Come closer.

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Psst.

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How are you, baby?

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Oh, you're getting situated there.

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Do you like the stool?

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Is that good for you?

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That's the one that our fans and brought over,

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You weren't here when you brought it.

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It's an lovely stool.

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Move the thing.

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You want to use your headphones?

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Let me just everything for you.

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You used to be a singer.

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I'm adjusting my.

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My grabbing.

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Grabbing them.

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My grabbing the shaft of the stand.

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It's a very professional grab there, baby.

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And it's the headphones a little shitty ever

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since Christina Barnum.

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For the work.

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They work.

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I'm not touching them.

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Don't touch it.

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Hey, baby.

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How you doing?

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I heard it snowing in Holland.

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Yesterday in Holland, it was, she was crap.

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It was so cold.

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I had, um, I had Eric, I told you that I had one of,

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Eric had one of his guys got and get me a delivery.

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For Michael Jackson and you of Michael Jackson.

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Excuse me.

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Excuse me.

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George Michael Jackson.

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I wish he did.

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George Michael.

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Eric supplies George Michael as well.

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He does international deliveries.

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Just tell me where you're parked and we'll bring it to you.

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Um, RB wrote me an email.

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Said, Adam, I just listened to your show before going to court.

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Sure.

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Hope you weren't lighting up a split before your court appearance.

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Didn't I ask you?

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Exactly what you asked.

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Didn't know, baby.

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I'm clear.

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I'm completely clear.

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I, uh, he says.

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I used to do a magic act a year ago and lit up before opening for the,

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for the Steve Miller band in Pasadena.

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What a mistake that was.

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Everything went wrong.

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And I have no idea what I did on stage.

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But the band really liked it.

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Do you think they're on the same level perhaps?

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I think so.

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I think you functioning very good.

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Why?

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I don't see a difference.

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Mm-hmm.

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But that's because I'm always this way.

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Less, lesser aggressive.

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Less aggressive.

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But, but friendly.

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And, uh, well, maybe I, you know what, maybe I shouldn't.

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The frames are wide open.

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Mm-hmm.

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Oh, yeah.

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Maybe I shouldn't consume before doing a show because people like it

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want to get really pissed off.

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That's what they said.

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That's how it's turned got to famous, you know.

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How it's turned got famous by putting lesbians on a show.

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That is the clue.

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Yes.

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That is the true clue to ratings, but an answer.

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Daring to used a word to life to be a.

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Lovely.

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You know how Americans love that.

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So, um.

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I said last night, when I came home, I said, you got to come on the show because that's the best way to talk about about the lawsuit.

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So I can explain it because you weren't there.

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You did a good job.

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How do you know?

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Well, because my family was watching TV.

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Oh, the news reports.

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You had a couple of quotes there.

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So, you want to get into it now?

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Yes?

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Or should we, um.

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How far do we get into it?

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Oh, baby.

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How far do you want to go?

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I think that's probably best.

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It's not necessary to throw it mod.

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Throw it mod.

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Translation.

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Very nice.

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Wait.

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But first, first, you know, he doesn't call often, but when he does, I have to put him on the show.

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Come on.

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You ready, young?

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Here's another message from the Rages of the Rages of the Rages of the Rages of the Rages.

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Hello, I'm Roger here.

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I just think catching up on your tele messages.

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And I thought I'd like to mention, I don't actually drive a car or a mini.

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I used to drive a box so now, there.

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But I had a nice next step and now I'm found.

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So I have to work everywhere.

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and also take the bus, but that's even very expensive these days.

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I'm not quite sure who's been hanging around outside your house, but it's not me.

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I think you've got to be very careful because there's lots of sensory people out there

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and there's only so many covers in the phone book.

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You never know who you've got out there, it's probably that comic shit blogger

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because he seems a bit involved in writing all those nasty things about you.

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He traces all those pictures of you on his website

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and I don't think that's very normal behaviour.

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But the great careful with Jacket or where his name is

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is looking at his blog, he seems very obsessed with you.

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He knows this kind of person he drives and many as well.

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Anyway, everything goes well with those nasty magazines

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and it's some consolation.

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I have my picture in the local newspaper a while ago

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and my solicitor made the mission a form of a policy.

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But please I do the same for you too.

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Although they'll probably say sorry in the small print at the back.

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Anyway, I'm a phone now, can have been out for the evening.

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So, made the wincey with you.

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Roger, are you stirring the shit up here?

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What was that knife of Paul McCartney to do that jingle?

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I was just thinking.

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Mac and me, you know, like this.

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That's the Jeff Smith.

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We did that.

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My blog Barry's going.

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Hold on.

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Let me just see.

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Talk amongst yourselves.

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Oh.

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00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:32,500
Okay.

281
00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:34,500
When I hear that guy on the phone,

282
00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:37,500
I have to think about Betty.

283
00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:38,500
Remember?

284
00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:39,500
Yeah.

285
00:13:39,500 --> 00:13:40,500
Hold on a second.

286
00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:41,500
There we go.

287
00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:44,500
Okay.

288
00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:45,500
Here we go.

289
00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:46,500
So, the lawsuit.

290
00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:47,500
Yeah.

291
00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:48,500
Let's just set the stage real quickly.

292
00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:50,500
Everyone knows we're talking about.

293
00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:51,500
Yeah.

294
00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:52,500
Yeah.

295
00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:55,500
A Dutch magazine took pictures off of this two parts to this.

296
00:13:55,500 --> 00:14:00,500
Took pictures off of my flicker, strut, my flicker sight, which by the way.

297
00:14:00,500 --> 00:14:02,500
Let's just say one thing.

298
00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:03,500
Yeah.

299
00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:08,500
In the Netherlands, the word flicker has 99% of the population.

300
00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:11,500
When they hear the word flicker, they think, homosexual.

301
00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:12,500
Yeah.

302
00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:16,500
Because the word, you know, the derogatory term, as we would say, Fag, is flicker.

303
00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:17,500
Yeah.

304
00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:19,500
So, even though you spell it differently.

305
00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:21,500
But an English flickering flicker.

306
00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:22,500
Yeah.

307
00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:27,500
Well, the spelling is F-L-I-C-K-R, which is, of course, very web 2-O hit trendy.

308
00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:29,500
But so, it's kind of funny.

309
00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:31,500
You know, all these people talking about flicker this and flicker that.

310
00:14:31,500 --> 00:14:32,500
Yeah.

311
00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:34,500
There were some snickers in the courtroom, by the way.

312
00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:36,500
And by the way.

313
00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:37,500
Yes.

314
00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:39,500
That magazine is not just a nice magazine.

315
00:14:39,500 --> 00:14:41,500
It's just a gossip magazine.

316
00:14:41,500 --> 00:14:43,500
It's a flicker magazine.

317
00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:45,500
So, did you know that?

318
00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:50,500
You know, it's not even okay or hello or in style, for example.

319
00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:51,500
Oh, no, no, no.

320
00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:56,500
It's a really, it's, you know, it's a rag is what it is.

321
00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:57,500
Okay.

322
00:14:57,500 --> 00:14:58,500
Supermarket.

323
00:14:58,500 --> 00:14:59,500
Right.

324
00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:00,500
Right.

325
00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:04,500
Now, let's just preface this by saying that you and I have been together for 20 years.

326
00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:08,500
We've been very, very well-known in the Netherlands all that time.

327
00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:09,500
That is not stopped.

328
00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:11,500
So much to our measurement, by the way.

329
00:15:11,500 --> 00:15:14,500
We lived in the United States for 14 years, and we came back and we were still well-known.

330
00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:20,500
Well, escaped it also the first time, because when we got together and we went out together,

331
00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:21,500
that was a big thing.

332
00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:26,500
Because no, because you were a scorned woman, because you had an affair with me.

333
00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:27,500
You had an affair with me?

334
00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:28,500
Divorced.

335
00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:29,500
Yes.

336
00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:30,500
Not even when I found you.

337
00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:34,500
It's horrible, horrible, horrible, but bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.

338
00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:37,500
And you were younger 15 years younger.

339
00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:39,500
So, that was a big thing.

340
00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:43,500
We had the paparazzi sitting in the garbage cans.

341
00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:44,500
Yeah.

342
00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:46,500
It was kind of like a dame more ashton-coached cushioner.

343
00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:47,500
Yeah.

344
00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:48,500
Yeah.

345
00:15:48,500 --> 00:15:49,500
Yeah.

346
00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:51,500
I just had a visual for a second there.

347
00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:53,500
I was doing dame.

348
00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:55,500
How would you like, do you like ashton?

349
00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:56,500
No.

350
00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:57,500
No.

351
00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:58,500
No.

352
00:15:58,500 --> 00:15:59,500
I don't see it.

353
00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:00,500
No, no.

354
00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:01,500
No.

355
00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:02,500
We were.

356
00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:03,500
Okay.

357
00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:04,500
Okay.

358
00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:07,500
Anyway, they took pictures off of my flicker side.

359
00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:09,500
And here's what they did.

360
00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:13,500
They followed Patricia around and Christina apparently.

361
00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:14,500
Yeah.

362
00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:15,500
And they took a picture of you.

363
00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:18,500
And you know, I'm sure they took many, many pictures of you.

364
00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:19,500
You were shopping at Saintsbury.

365
00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:20,500
Didn't know anything.

366
00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:21,500
Right.

367
00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:22,500
So, it doesn't matter.

368
00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:25,500
Even if you had the most beautiful clothes on, we're completely ready for a photo shoot.

369
00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:26,500
There's always a shitty picture.

370
00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:27,500
So, they're looking for a shit.

371
00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:28,500
That's a new thing.

372
00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:31,500
They're looking for the shittiest photo that they have.

373
00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:32,500
So, they can say, look.

374
00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:33,500
She looks like shit.

375
00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:35,500
And you didn't even look that shitty.

376
00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:36,500
Hey.

377
00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:37,500
Don't break the studio.

378
00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:38,500
Yeah.

379
00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:39,500
That's shitty.

380
00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:40,500
I thought it.

381
00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:41,500
I did.

382
00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:42,500
No, it wasn't that bad.

383
00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:45,500
You know, when you normally actually a normal person who does.

384
00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:46,500
Looks like that.

385
00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:47,500
No.

386
00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:48,500
No, look.

387
00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:49,500
Look like you and you look shitty.

388
00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:52,500
Who carries the grocery bags in her car.

389
00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:53,500
And you were looking down.

390
00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:54,500
Pools faces.

391
00:16:54,500 --> 00:16:55,500
Yeah.

392
00:16:55,500 --> 00:16:56,500
You pulled us a face.

393
00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:57,500
Yeah.

394
00:16:57,500 --> 00:16:58,500
Put that on.

395
00:16:58,500 --> 00:16:59,500
Okay.

396
00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:01,500
So, that face, you know, was.

397
00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:02,500
That's the poop face.

398
00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:03,500
On the cover.

399
00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:04,500
That's it.

400
00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,500
That's when you're trying to pinch one off.

401
00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:07,500
Yeah.

402
00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:09,500
Okay.

403
00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:11,500
And that face was on the cover of the magazine.

404
00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:12,500
Yes.

405
00:17:12,500 --> 00:17:13,500
Correct.

406
00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:15,500
And it was full page.

407
00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:18,500
And the gist of them of the article was, you know, they say that everything is all

408
00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:20,500
Hunky Dory, but it's really all crappy.

409
00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:21,500
No.

410
00:17:21,500 --> 00:17:22,500
Look at Patricia's face for Christ's sake.

411
00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:23,500
I'm happy.

412
00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:24,500
It must be poopy.

413
00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:25,500
Very unhappy.

414
00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:31,500
And so, to prove this contrast inside, they took these pictures of our trip to America.

415
00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:32,500
Yes.

416
00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:34,500
Well, we were in New York and San Francisco.

417
00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:38,500
When we were sick actually, and I took a picture of the three of us in Central Park.

418
00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:39,500
You had the flu.

419
00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:40,500
Yeah.

420
00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:41,500
Boy, that's bad.

421
00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:42,500
Well, remember that.

422
00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:43,500
Bad hair day.

423
00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:44,500
Yeah.

424
00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:46,500
And, and quite honestly, of course, these are great pictures.

425
00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:49,500
You know, that's why I published them on the on my family.

426
00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:51,500
I put a muffler.

427
00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:52,500
And on the knees.

428
00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:53,500
Did you just broke?

429
00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:54,500
No.

430
00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:55,500
On this show.

431
00:17:55,500 --> 00:17:56,500
You know what happened.

432
00:17:56,500 --> 00:17:57,500
What do you have to say?

433
00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:58,500
Did that burn?

434
00:17:58,500 --> 00:17:59,500
Yeah.

435
00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:00,500
What do you have to say?

436
00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:01,500
What do you have to say?

437
00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:02,500
Excuse me.

438
00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:05,500
Well, senseo.

439
00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:06,500
Oh, senseo.

440
00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,500
Thanks for listening.

441
00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:09,500
Oh.

442
00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:10,500
For the past year and a half.

443
00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:11,500
But I'm not a coffee drink.

444
00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:12,500
No.

445
00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:13,500
Okay.

446
00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:14,500
But from now on, whenever you hear a book,

447
00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:16,500
the day I've been didn't go down very well.

448
00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:20,500
But anyway, and underneath these lovely holiday pictures,

449
00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:25,500
I said, yeah, look, they're playing like it's nice, but it's not good.

450
00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:26,500
No.

451
00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:27,500
No.

452
00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:28,500
It's horrible.

453
00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:29,500
No.

454
00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:30,500
And they're sitting in a limo.

455
00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:31,500
No.

456
00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:32,500
He can afford a limo.

457
00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:33,500
No.

458
00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:34,500
No.

459
00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:35,500
Okay.

460
00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:36,500
Okay.

461
00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:38,500
But that doesn't matter because in 20 years that we've been together,

462
00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:40,500
we've never sued a magazine ever.

463
00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:43,500
Never sued a gossip magazine for anything.

464
00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:44,500
Never.

465
00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:46,500
Because we think, you know, you are out there.

466
00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:47,500
We did our things.

467
00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:49,500
We did our appearances.

468
00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:50,500
We were famous.

469
00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:52,500
That's what we were working for.

470
00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:54,500
And sometimes these sort of things.

471
00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:55,500
You know, that's the other side.

472
00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:56,500
Yeah.

473
00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:57,500
I mean.

474
00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:58,500
So.

475
00:18:58,500 --> 00:18:59,500
That's the way it works.

476
00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:00,500
That's the way it works.

477
00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:01,500
That's the game.

478
00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:02,500
That.

479
00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:03,500
Silicier.

480
00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:04,500
Hmm.

481
00:19:04,500 --> 00:19:05,500
Okay.

482
00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:06,500
So that isn't the game.

483
00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:07,500
No.

484
00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:08,500
No problem.

485
00:19:08,500 --> 00:19:09,500
And they've said some shitty things about us.

486
00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:11,500
And they've told lots of untruths and lies.

487
00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:12,500
Of course.

488
00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:13,500
But these are gossip magazine.

489
00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:16,500
And on the other side, we use them to sell things.

490
00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:17,500
You know.

491
00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:18,500
Absolutely.

492
00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:19,500
It works both ways.

493
00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:20,500
Yeah.

494
00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:22,500
We know how to play the game.

495
00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:23,500
Let's be honest.

496
00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:25,500
However, there are rules to the game.

497
00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:26,500
Yes.

498
00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:27,500
I think so too.

499
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:31,500
One of the rules is people can stand outside your house and take as many pictures of

500
00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:32,500
they want as they want.

501
00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:35,500
But they cannot take pictures of you while you're in your house.

502
00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:36,500
If you're in your house, they can't take it.

503
00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:37,500
Well, they can take it.

504
00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:41,500
But they can't publish a picture that has been taken through the window.

505
00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:42,500
Yeah.

506
00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:43,500
Now, if you're in your back garden.

507
00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:44,500
Or if you're on your balcony.

508
00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:47,500
It's, you know, there's jurisprudence that says they can publish that.

509
00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:50,500
So, so really your final privacy is easy.

510
00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:53,500
Even if you're in your bare butt, they can take the picture.

511
00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:54,500
Yeah.

512
00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:55,500
So that is preferred, of course.

513
00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:56,500
Yes.

514
00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:57,500
Of course.

515
00:19:57,500 --> 00:20:04,500
Now, just in normal publishing terms, well, before I get to that, they also followed

516
00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:05,500
our daughter Christina.

517
00:20:05,500 --> 00:20:06,500
Yeah.

518
00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:13,500
And we know that because written in the text of this article was the name of her school

519
00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:16,500
and how she is transported there every single day.

520
00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:17,500
How do they know that?

521
00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:18,500
Of course.

522
00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:19,500
How do they know?

523
00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:23,500
Because they've been watching these editors or one of these editors ordered some

524
00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:24,500
guys.

525
00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:29,500
Some greasy ass guy in a trench coat is the way I envision him with a fucking lens to follow

526
00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:30,500
my daughter.

527
00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:31,500
Yeah.

528
00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:32,500
I don't care who's following my daughter.

529
00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:33,500
She's 15.

530
00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:34,500
That's not okay.

531
00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:35,500
No.

532
00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:36,500
That is just not okay.

533
00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:37,500
No.

534
00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:38,500
So, that is endangerment of a child.

535
00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:40,500
Unless we say, can you follow my daughter?

536
00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:41,500
Yeah.

537
00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:44,500
Well, there's some guys that, that's not a story.

538
00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:47,500
There's some guys that I told not to follow my daughter in case some other

539
00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:48,500
motherfuckers shows up.

540
00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:49,500
So, no worries.

541
00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:50,500
Yeah.

542
00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:52,500
It's all good.

543
00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:57,500
Now, so that of course is subject to how you want to interpret the words, what is danger,

544
00:20:57,500 --> 00:21:02,500
you know, there's all kinds of things that can be taken into consideration, but any parent

545
00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:03,500
will agree.

546
00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:04,500
That's not okay.

547
00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:08,500
If you, if you, if you are a parent, you know that's that doesn't feel good at all.

548
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:09,500
And it's just wrong.

549
00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:10,500
It's wrong.

550
00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:11,500
Okay.

551
00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:12,500
Follow me.

552
00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:13,500
Do the same as Barry.

553
00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:14,500
Doesn't matter.

554
00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:15,500
Yeah.

555
00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:16,500
Take my ugly face and put it on the cover.

556
00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:17,500
It wasn't ugly, huh?

557
00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:18,500
It doesn't matter.

558
00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:21,500
It doesn't matter, but don't do that to my daughter.

559
00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:22,500
Right.

560
00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:28,500
Now, they took these pictures from my flicker feed and every single picture that I have

561
00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:35,500
up there, public, is marked as creative comments, share a like, non-commercial attribution.

562
00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:36,500
Yeah.

563
00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:39,500
So, the, the important part here is the non-commercial part of the license.

564
00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:42,500
Now, this whole creative comment is not a small thing.

565
00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:46,500
You know, this is set up by Lawrence Lessig of Stanford University.

566
00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,500
It's, it's adopted globally.

567
00:21:48,500 --> 00:21:53,500
People rely on this for protection for their intellectual property.

568
00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:55,500
Yeah.

569
00:21:55,500 --> 00:22:04,500
And the, the, the, the, the magazine and the editors, they basically had to come into court and explain

570
00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:08,500
what, you know, why they felt justified to take those pictures and publish it.

571
00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:09,500
Exactly.

572
00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:10,500
Because they can't read English.

573
00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:13,500
Because it's clearly, well, the part of that was the part of their defense.

574
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:14,500
Yeah.

575
00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:15,500
He set the stage for a second.

576
00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:16,500
Okay.

577
00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:18,500
So, I have taxi Eric who's all dressed up.

578
00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:22,500
He, you know, of course he takes care of all the logistics for us in Holland.

579
00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:25,500
So, he's dressed up and looks like a secret agent.

580
00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:26,500
Totally James Bond.

581
00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:27,500
Yeah.

582
00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:28,500
Exactly.

583
00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:29,500
Exactly.

584
00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:30,500
Yeah.

585
00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:33,500
You know, he's overcoat, little oversized, overcoat, you know, he's kind of walking.

586
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:34,500
Yeah.

587
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,500
He looks, he looks perfect for the posse.

588
00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:37,500
Gold rings.

589
00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:38,500
Yeah.

590
00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:39,500
And what's that?

591
00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:40,500
What?

592
00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:41,500
He has the walk.

593
00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:42,500
Yeah.

594
00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:43,500
Exactly.

595
00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:51,500
So, we have our lead attorney, Christ from Popula Stain, Abibushnach.

596
00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:54,500
Christ is, he's a, he's a pretty scary guy.

597
00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:55,500
Yeah.

598
00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:56,500
He's like partially bald.

599
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,500
And he always has like, that shitty ring on his face.

600
00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:00,500
Yeah.

601
00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:02,500
You know, you just want to have him on your son.

602
00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:03,500
Yeah.

603
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:04,500
Don't fuck with me face.

604
00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:05,500
Yeah.

605
00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:09,500
And then we had young villain who was an associate who actually, you know, wrote a lot of the stuff.

606
00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:10,500
So you had two.

607
00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:11,500
Yeah.

608
00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:16,500
And young villain was my size and, you know, kind of a big, like, all off-looking guy.

609
00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:17,500
You know, so it's all right.

610
00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:18,500
I think we had a pretty good posse.

611
00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:19,500
Yeah.

612
00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:23,500
Now, what was interesting is the news organizations that will news.

613
00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:27,500
I mean, the, kind of like the entertainment tonight news organizations.

614
00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:33,500
They had requested to film to record video during the, during the session during the, during the suit.

615
00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:34,500
Two programs.

616
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:35,500
Yeah.

617
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:36,500
Exactly.

618
00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:38,500
And so they asked me to, do you mind?

619
00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:39,500
I don't care.

620
00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:40,500
I mean, that's fine.

621
00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:41,500
Yeah.

622
00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:42,500
Yeah.

623
00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:43,500
And stuff like that.

624
00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:44,500
Yeah.

625
00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:45,500
Can be very helpful for other people.

626
00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:47,500
So when we get there, the camera crews were there.

627
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,500
But it turns out that the magazine and the publisher refused.

628
00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:54,500
They didn't want any cameras in the court.

629
00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:59,500
I mean, a gossip magazine, you all, I mean, this, I was blown away by that.

630
00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:01,500
Oh, they were shy.

631
00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:02,500
Yeah.

632
00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:03,500
All of a sudden they were shy.

633
00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:04,500
Yeah.

634
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:06,500
You know, what's, you know, what's a real bummer?

635
00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:07,500
Yeah.

636
00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:12,500
I'm just thinking you're car right now, listening to this on serious satellite stars 103.

637
00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:18,500
And you're not going to hear the ending of it because the satellite window closes and, if it's, if it goes to Hellway, it comes up next.

638
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:23,500
So, so, well, but when they get home, when they get to the office, go to dailysourceco.com, download the show.

639
00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:25,500
And you can hear the rest of it.

640
00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:26,500
Yeah.

641
00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:28,500
Oh, you know, that podcast, and you should look into it.

642
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:29,500
It's pretty cool.

643
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:30,500
Okay.

644
00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:31,500
So they're gone now.

645
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:32,500
Okay.

646
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:33,500
Where was I?

647
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:34,500
Oh, yeah.

648
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:40,500
The judge, then, before, before we started, the judge called in the, my two lawyers and their one lawyer.

649
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:41,500
It was as geeky looking.

650
00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:45,500
If you put two, two bolts here in his neck, he was totally frank and stunned.

651
00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:46,500
Yeah.

652
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:47,500
Yeah, but it's like a lurchy guy.

653
00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:48,500
Sometimes it doesn't matter.

654
00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:49,500
You know that.

655
00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:50,500
Yeah.

656
00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:51,500
But it may be feel good at the time.

657
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:52,500
Yeah.

658
00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:53,500
I know.

659
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:54,500
Okay.

660
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:55,500
Okay.

661
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:56,500
Of course, it doesn't matter.

662
00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:57,500
It makes no difference at all.

663
00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:00,500
But as it turns out, anyway.

664
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:06,500
I had geeky guy a couple of times in the courtroom and defending me.

665
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:07,500
And I lost.

666
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:08,500
Yeah.

667
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:09,500
No, exactly.

668
00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:10,500
And I was telling these guys.

669
00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:11,500
I'm like, hey.

670
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:12,500
It's true, but you never know.

671
00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:15,500
I was telling, I'm saying, okay, guys, listen.

672
00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:16,500
Let's do this right.

673
00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:17,500
You know, let's just sit there.

674
00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:18,500
This is always so dry.

675
00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:19,500
These Dutch court cases.

676
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:20,500
Yeah.

677
00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:21,500
You know, you watch TV.

678
00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:22,500
You watch Boston legal.

679
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:25,500
You're like, you know, besides the fact that the office is filled with groovy, you know,

680
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:26,500
by sexual chicks.

681
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:27,500
Yeah.

682
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:28,500
You know, there's all this like.

683
00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:30,500
There's professional suits on.

684
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:31,500
Right.

685
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:32,500
Yeah.

686
00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:33,500
Exactly.

687
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,500
So I said, listen, guys, I want some Danny Crane.

688
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:36,500
Danny Crane.

689
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:37,500
Yeah.

690
00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:38,500
Yeah.

691
00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,500
And in a couple of times during the, during the case, I went, I.

692
00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:42,500
Danny Crane.

693
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,500
Yeah.

694
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,500
So, and, and, but, help, they really hit.

695
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:46,500
It made a difference.

696
00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:49,500
But they, they knew that you meant be cool.

697
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:50,500
Yeah.

698
00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:51,500
And it's psychological.

699
00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:52,500
And they were very cool.

700
00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:53,500
And these guys are pros.

701
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:54,500
They're really good.

702
00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:55,500
I've done this a couple of times before.

703
00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:57,500
You know, it's very good because we have American listens.

704
00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:01,500
And listeners, and they have no idea how it works in how it works.

705
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:02,500
Oh, let me, yeah.

706
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:03,500
Let me just say.

707
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:04,500
And I've mentioned this before.

708
00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:08,500
But there is no jury system in the Netherlands, not for criminal or civil court.

709
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:10,500
It's just a professional judge system.

710
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:11,500
One judge.

711
00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:12,500
Yeah.

712
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:13,500
So the judge is going to listen.

713
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:17,500
It reads the documents, listens to the arguments, and then makes a decision.

714
00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:18,500
That's, that's how it goes.

715
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:19,500
And he's stomach hurts.

716
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:20,500
And he has a fight at home.

717
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:22,500
He's in a bad mood.

718
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:23,500
Well, no.

719
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,500
You're fine.

720
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:25,500
Let me just say one thing.

721
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:30,500
I do believe that the professional judges who are in the system really believe in the system,

722
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:31,500
and really work it.

723
00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:33,500
I mean, I just don't believe in the system.

724
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:34,500
That's nothing against judges.

725
00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:37,500
I don't think they use their gut feeling.

726
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:39,500
Yeah, but they're not supposed to.

727
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:40,500
No, that's why the line.

728
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:42,500
So you always get something different.

729
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:43,500
They're not well.

730
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:45,500
And then the Netherlands, of course, is always.

731
00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:48,500
Why don't we just come to a compromise.

732
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,500
There's always a compromise.

733
00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:52,500
It's never a clear cut winner in it.

734
00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:55,500
I think it's too much about the rules or the rules.

735
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:57,500
Yeah, but they look at it exactly.

736
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,500
Well, we can argue this for a hundred, a hundred years.

737
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:04,500
But I mean, the way the system, I don't like the system.

738
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:08,500
I think it's a bad system, but I do think they try their best to make the system work.

739
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:10,500
So let me just, let's just say that.

740
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:11,500
That's true.

741
00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:12,500
Okay.

742
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,500
And this judge, a woman.

743
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:19,500
She's known for intellectual copyright about intellectual property cases.

744
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,500
Yeah, she's probably somewhere between my age and your age.

745
00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:24,500
I guess.

746
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:25,500
I think somewhere on that.

747
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:27,500
Maybe younger.

748
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,500
No, I think she was older than I was.

749
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:31,500
But somewhere in between.

750
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:32,500
Laskar.

751
00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:38,500
Yeah, but, you know, I like the, oh, so she overruled the.

752
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:43,500
The request by the magazine to have no cameras in the court room.

753
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:44,500
She overruled it.

754
00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:46,500
And talk like, oh, that's kind of cool.

755
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,500
And you know, I hadn't met her yet.

756
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,500
I thought that was a very interesting.

757
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:51,500
Of course.

758
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:52,500
So these schmucks, they record everything.

759
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,500
And you know, what do they use like, you know, us walking into the courtroom?

760
00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:58,500
It's like Christal mighty idiots.

761
00:27:58,500 --> 00:27:59,500
Yeah.

762
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:01,500
Okay.

763
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:06,500
So I showed up, of course, representing us with with our attorneys.

764
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:12,500
And this guy, Mark Funderlinda, who was the, who's the editor, who shares this co-editor

765
00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:15,500
ship with this other girl, Peter of Boats.

766
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:16,500
He wrote the whole piece.

767
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:19,500
Oh, I don't even know who wrote it because there was no buy line there.

768
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,500
Yeah, but then I know that it was him.

769
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:23,500
Well, usually it's him.

770
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:27,500
So he didn't show up because he apparently had a fall in luck.

771
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:29,500
And left where he was slipped.

772
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:33,500
He was, you know, following celebrities around.

773
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:34,500
He was leeching and left.

774
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:35,500
Yeah.

775
00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:37,500
He was following them around and then he slipped.

776
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:38,500
Yes.

777
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:40,500
And he slipped and he couldn't make it.

778
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:41,500
Okay.

779
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:44,500
So the better boats can.

780
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:47,500
And you know what?

781
00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:51,500
She should really change her hair color because she's giving the whole dumb blonde thing

782
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:52,500
like too much.

783
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:53,500
Yeah, credit.

784
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:54,500
Too much credit.

785
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:56,500
I mean, I'm sorry.

786
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,500
You know, it's just, she just doesn't seem very bright.

787
00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:01,500
She didn't say anything throughout the entire court case.

788
00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:02,500
Throughout the entire case.

789
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:03,500
Not one word.

790
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:04,500
No.

791
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:05,500
You know, and I was talking on doing all kinds of stuff.

792
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:07,500
You know, you know me.

793
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:13,500
Oh, let's just say the best news of the entire day.

794
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:16,500
No Donald Trump hair.

795
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:17,500
Ah.

796
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:18,500
The hair.

797
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:20,500
I actually got the hair pretty good now.

798
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:21,500
Lucky luck.

799
00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:23,520
Lucky luck.

800
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,520
Lucky luck.

801
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,500
Lucky luck.

802
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:27,500
Lucky luck.

803
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:29,520
Lucky luck.

804
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,520
Look.

805
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,520
Lucky luck.

806
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,520
You saw the hair.

807
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,520
Look pretty good.

808
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,520
That's the hair that I always say.

809
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,520
Right.

810
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,520
And Donald Trump hair.

811
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Right, but I didn't have that did I do.

812
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,520
No.

813
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,520
You did your best.

814
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,520
Okay.

815
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Because what I said was a jury.

816
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,520
He said fine, how was your hair?

817
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,520
She didn't ask about my hair first.

818
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,520
And it's not because he needs good hair,

819
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,520
no, because he makes he just cannot do his hair.

820
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,520
But if I have the hair, then I have the confidence.

821
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,520
It's my main. It's my armor.

822
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,520
If I let you do your hair, then you look like a sort of blonde,

823
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,520
Elvis Presley.

824
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,520
Yeah, you just put a little bit of water in it.

825
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,520
No, throw it back.

826
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,520
Stop about the hair, okay? Enough about the hair.

827
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,520
That would, people know that you don't care about your hair.

828
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,520
It's nice to know.

829
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,520
No, I do care about my hair because I want it to look right

830
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,520
because that gives me confidence.

831
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,520
Of course, of course.

832
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,520
Okay, so I care.

833
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Yeah.

834
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,520
On top of that, instead of my regular blue contact lenses,

835
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,520
because I thought it would be stunningly beautiful.

836
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,520
It turns out that the guide gave us the wrong ones

837
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,520
and had green contact lenses.

838
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,520
Yeah, what was that?

839
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,520
Which made my eyes look like two black holes.

840
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,520
Yeah, very dark.

841
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,520
But I didn't want my glasses on because of it.

842
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,520
No, I know.

843
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,520
Because I think this stuff is important, you know?

844
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Yes.

845
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,520
But again, whether you're appealing to a jury or a judge,

846
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,520
I mean, I know.

847
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,520
I'm taking this shit really, really serious.

848
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,520
That's what I wanted to say.

849
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,520
Everything needs to be out.

850
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,520
That was the statement.

851
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,520
Yes.

852
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,520
So then we read our whole thing, right?

853
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,520
And here's what I liked about the judge,

854
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,520
because the lawyers get up and then first the plaintiffs,

855
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,520
you know, we had this brief of like 46 or 47 different points,

856
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,520
which is, you know, what we claim,

857
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,520
what the law is, jurisprudence,

858
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,520
what the conclusion is.

859
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,520
And so, you know, our guy actually reads that.

860
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,520
He reads it from the paper.

861
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Well, I'm going like, denny crane.

862
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,520
But the judge, the judge, even though she's given a copy,

863
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,520
she didn't read it.

864
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,520
She actually put her glasses on top of her head and just listened.

865
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,520
And as she listened, she was looking around

866
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,520
at different people's reactions during different pieces.

867
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Very, very smart, very smart.

868
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,520
And so then they go woman.

869
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,520
Yeah, oh yeah.

870
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,520
Very good.

871
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,520
So then the other guys get to do it.

872
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,520
And oh my God.

873
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,520
I brought it home with you.

874
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,520
It's just so funny.

875
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Yeah.

876
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,520
So let's just on the pictures for a second,

877
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,520
because that's where the real legal stuff happens.

878
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,520
They claim that when you move your mouse over a picture on flicker.

879
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,520
Yeah.

880
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,520
They claim that something pops up a message that says,

881
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,520
this photo is public.

882
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Now, that's true.

883
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,520
It's public.

884
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,520
That means it's public too.

885
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,520
You can look at it.

886
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,520
And underneath it actually says under certain restrictions.

887
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,520
And it has a concrete created creative comments logo.

888
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,520
The seas with a copyright is very internationally acknowledged stuff.

889
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,520
I know.

890
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,520
But they know that, of course.

891
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,520
I mean, let's not kid each other because they're professional.

892
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,520
Right.

893
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,520
But well, this is what the judge said because they had printouts and screen grabs.

894
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,520
And they're just proving that it's confusing.

895
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,520
And that and they had no idea of your happiness.

896
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,520
And you should go boost.

897
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,520
All that stuff.

898
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,520
Yeah.

899
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,520
It's an important thing for them on their list.

900
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,520
Little list was all disgusting things.

901
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,520
They're asking for it.

902
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,520
Hold on.

903
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,520
No.

904
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Stop.

905
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,520
You're telling the story the wrong way.

906
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Oh, is that so?

907
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,520
Yeah.

908
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,520
Yeah.

909
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,520
But that comes later.

910
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,520
I'm way ahead.

911
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,520
Yes.

912
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,520
Stick with the program.

913
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,520
Hold on to my co-tails, baby.

914
00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,520
So they had all these different explanations for why they didn't see it.

915
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,520
They also said, hey, look, it's available.

916
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:08,520
All these pictures are available in multiple resolutions, including very high quality, which is

917
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,520
plainly, definitely intended for magazines.

918
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,520
That's what you said.

919
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,520
And flicker is only full of promotional pictures.

920
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,520
And it's just fun.

921
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,520
And it's just mucking about.

922
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,520
Mucking about.

923
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,520
Mucking about.

924
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,520
And.

925
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,520
And so, you know, so then we kind of go back and forth.

926
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,520
And I say, you know, you're on her.

927
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,520
And I was I had all the right word.

928
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,520
You have to say eight left butter for our own and all that stuff.

929
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,520
You know, I really tried to respect her position.

930
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,520
So I really was very.

931
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,520
I thought it was quite polite and correct.

932
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,520
I said, you know, I don't take this.

933
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,520
I don't see this as fun and games at all.

934
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,520
I mean, this is really serious stuff.

935
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,520
This is a part of our company.

936
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,520
Our company, our media company, the personal Adam Curry Patricia Pi, media company, which

937
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,520
is registered as such.

938
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,520
Yeah.

939
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:57,520
You know, spans across web logs, online stores, which you've had.

940
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,520
Pictures, podcasts, video podcasts.

941
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,520
It's a part of the new media.

942
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,520
Yeah.

943
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,520
And we need to respect the same intellectual property rules.

944
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,520
In the new media as as the old media respects from us.

945
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,520
You know, this is this is this is critical stuff.

946
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,520
And you can't just go taking it.

947
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,520
It's stealing.

948
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,520
And so this this debate kind of went back and forth.

949
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,520
And I got into it and I said, look, you know,

950
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,520
first of all, any editor who respects himself after making this huge intellectual

951
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,520
property violation knowingly should resign.

952
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,520
So I'm not only want any money from this, just make the guy resign.

953
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,520
We have to send a message.

954
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,520
We have to send a message that there is a line in the sand.

955
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:46,520
And the the genesis of this is that when I when my lawyer first sent the letter to them,

956
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,520
hey, you violated our copyright by publishing our pictures.

957
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,520
They said, oh, well, here's 1500 euros, which is like three times

958
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,520
the going rate and you should just shut up and be happy with it.

959
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,520
We offer them money, which is a very common occurrence, by the way.

960
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,520
But it's it's not right.

961
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,520
You can't steal something knowing that I'll just pay them off later.

962
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,520
I mean, you're still stealing.

963
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,520
Then it's done.

964
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Yeah, you're still stealing.

965
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,520
And of course photographers who just take pictures and sell them for living,

966
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,520
you know, they'll take that.

967
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,520
I mean, they're part of the problem because I'll take that three times the amount.

968
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,520
You know, go ahead, steal my pictures all you want.

969
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,520
I didn't offer them to take care.

970
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,520
No, of course not, of course not.

971
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,520
So, you know, that was kind of their their whole defense saying, well, it was hard to

972
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,520
hard to figure out what what the license was, you know, and pictures are they

973
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,520
actually literally said, once a picture, once something is put on the internet,

974
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,520
it has no value.

975
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,520
It has no value.

976
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,520
And I said, well, that's really interesting.

977
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,520
Say, my podcast does pretty damn well.

978
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,520
Thank you very much.

979
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,520
And I gave it away.

980
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,520
Yeah.

981
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,520
And I let people copy it.

982
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,520
And I said, but you can just download this stuff.

983
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,520
It's available for download for everyone.

984
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,520
I said, yeah, absolutely.

985
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,520
You can download my pictures all you want.

986
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,520
There are rules.

987
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,520
But you can't publish them.

988
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,520
Now.

989
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,520
Downloading is not the same as publishing.

990
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,520
So, I started to use some pretty big words like theft and, you know,

991
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,520
violations of intellectual property.

992
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,520
And the judge said, well, Mr. Curry, say, you're using some pretty big words here

993
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:17,520
for, you know, the crime that has been committed, the taking of a picture.

994
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,520
She said, you know, what exactly would the damages be?

995
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,520
If she's trying to get a numb, because she knows that she's going to decide that they,

996
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,520
I think, that they violated the rules.

997
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,520
The thing here is, what is the value of those pictures?

998
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,520
You know, and so there are two ways I could have gone.

999
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,520
I could have gone and said, well, you know, we've sold pictures in the past,

1000
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,520
which I don't think we've ever done.

1001
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,520
Oh, one Christina was born.

1002
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,520
We sold, actually we didn't sell pictures.

1003
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,520
We had pictures made.

1004
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,520
And then they wrote a check in Christina's name.

1005
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,520
But I mean, you could come up with ways to measure it, but I'm not interested in that.

1006
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,520
So I wouldn't answer the question I said.

1007
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,520
But I was expecting, I was expecting it.

1008
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,520
Yeah.

1009
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,520
And here's what I said.

1010
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,520
I said, these are the exact same terms.

1011
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Theavory, huge loss of income that are used by the RIA, the MPA, the, I used the Dutch,

1012
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,520
Bhuma Stamina, ASCAP BMI, said the business software alliance.

1013
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,520
And she was nodding her head because, you know, she's done these cases and I said,

1014
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,520
Yeah.

1015
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,520
So you're telling me that a song that you buy for 99 cents,

1016
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,520
when someone copies that illegally and put and shares it with someone else,

1017
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,520
why all of a sudden can they get a $150,000 lawsuit?

1018
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,520
And I can't.

1019
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,520
No.

1020
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:31,520
Yeah.

1021
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,520
And that was the tipping point.

1022
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,520
And I saw her brain go, oh, click.

1023
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,520
Yeah.

1024
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Hold on a second.

1025
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,520
So I'm just here as the guy who was only hearing about,

1026
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,520
we can't rip off the big companies because they're going to take, you know,

1027
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,520
they're going to take you down and then you get, you know, look,

1028
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,520
the housewives, you know, moms who don't even use the computers,

1029
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,520
kids have shared some file and they get, you know,

1030
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,520
the $150,000 lawsuit, but they can settle it for 15,000,

1031
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,520
and not go to court.

1032
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,520
And it's fucking crazy.

1033
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,520
Yes.

1034
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,520
And she got it.

1035
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,520
So what I basically said is all I'm asking for is a signal.

1036
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:10,520
And the signal has to be very clear that it has to stop the idea of

1037
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,520
grabbing it and taking it and using it and then paying someone off.

1038
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,520
It stops with me.

1039
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,520
And if you, if you're going to, you know,

1040
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,520
find them 5,000 euros, they're just going to go do it again.

1041
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,520
And I'll be back here next year.

1042
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,520
And the year after that, and someone else is going to be here.

1043
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,520
Yeah.

1044
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,520
And it's a stupid waste of time.

1045
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,520
It's stupid.

1046
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,520
And it's wrong.

1047
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,520
It's like getting on the train and not buying a ticket because, you know,

1048
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,520
if I get caught all I have to do is pay the ticket.

1049
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,520
But the whole thing was that they think they can do that to us,

1050
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,520
because no, I'm just in a second.

1051
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,520
So those are the facts.

1052
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,520
Yeah, I know.

1053
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,520
Okay.

1054
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,520
But they think that we want that.

1055
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,520
Yes.

1056
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,520
Okay.

1057
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,520
So a part of their, a part of their whole defense and argument there,

1058
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,520
was that throughout the years, we have always sought publicity.

1059
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,520
And that all we are about is about publicity and making money.

1060
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,520
That's what I said.

1061
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,520
Yeah.

1062
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Which, of course, is true, but not in this context.

1063
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,520
But come on.

1064
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,520
We always did it in a very professional way.

1065
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,520
Of course, we're professional.

1066
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,520
Professional.

1067
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,520
Of course.

1068
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,520
And if we do something to start a new magazine or, you know, something that

1069
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,520
people want from us and we say, hey, you're going to earn a lot of money from this,

1070
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,520
let's talk.

1071
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,520
Yeah, because we make money with our brand, with our, with our face, with our talent, with our voice, you know, whatever.

1072
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,520
We have something to sell.

1073
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,520
And we're not supposed to have any business sense.

1074
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,520
I guess that's very foreign to the people like this.

1075
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,520
I don't think that we can have any business sense.

1076
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,520
Wow.

1077
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,520
So.

1078
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,520
I think we did pretty well.

1079
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,520
Yeah, on the, on the picture stuff, definitely.

1080
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,520
I mean, if I were, if I were to, I'm just thinking, because these, again,

1081
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,520
the judge may be going for some kind of compromise.

1082
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,520
I mean, what would be great is if, is if they came up with,

1083
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,520
if the judge came up with some kind, I mean, something to send to signal.

1084
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,520
If it's money or whatever it is, but something that really hurts, you know,

1085
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,520
something that makes a difference to that company.

1086
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,520
They have to do something.

1087
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,520
And I'm not looking for money for us.

1088
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,520
I'm just looking for a, you know, that's why I said, just fire this guy.

1089
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,520
Fire the editor and then the next editor will think twice about doing that shit.

1090
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,520
Is that simple? How hard somebody is to start with this?

1091
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,520
Yeah.

1092
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,520
About the Christina stuff.

1093
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,520
I don't know.

1094
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,520
They, I think they'll get a, a reprimand.

1095
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,520
I don't think they'll get anything else.

1096
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,520
I don't think they'll, I don't think they'll be any other.

1097
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,520
Any other sanctions there, anything, anything happening.

1098
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,520
Okay. But, you know, that's our feeling.

1099
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,520
And it is a scary feeling.

1100
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,520
Oh, yeah. No, totally. Totally.

1101
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,520
But, you know, what they said there is that, well, you've continuously put her in the limelight.

1102
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,520
And so, therefore, he's fair game.

1103
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,520
All right.

1104
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,520
Well, she belongs to us. You know, she walks next to us.

1105
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,520
Yeah.

1106
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,520
Yeah.

1107
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,520
It's, uh, it's crazy. But then then.

1108
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,520
And it's not going to stop us from doing nice things that we want to do.

1109
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,520
You know, that we like.

1110
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,520
But this guy blew it this, uh, this Mark guy. He blew it.

1111
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,520
Uh, when we were talking last night.

1112
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,520
Finally, what, what his name is, is, uh, he hates us.

1113
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,520
And I don't know why.

1114
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,520
You, you don't even know him.

1115
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,520
No.

1116
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Did you ever talk to him?

1117
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,520
Uh, once.

1118
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,520
I met him, uh, when I came home, I remember I came home from work.

1119
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,520
One day, and you were being interviewed by him.

1120
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,520
And this is 20, you know, there's eight, 17 years ago.

1121
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,520
Was that him?

1122
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,520
In New Jersey.

1123
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,520
We just lived in New Jersey.

1124
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,520
Yeah.

1125
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,520
And 1718 years ago.

1126
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,520
I think Christina was, uh, just about four years old, three or four years old.

1127
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,520
Oh.

1128
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,520
And, uh, well, then he called me only 11 years ago.

1129
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,520
And he said, we're going to start a new magazine.

1130
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,520
Uh, or a new, we'll give it the new phase to avant garde.

1131
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Was it?

1132
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,520
And do you want to do it?

1133
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,520
I have a feeling we're going to get to the bottom of why he hates us with this story.

1134
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,520
No, no, not at all.

1135
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,520
No, not at all.

1136
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,520
That's where I say, and I know him just a little bit.

1137
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Okay.

1138
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,520
And, and said, who are you?

1139
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Because we lived in America.

1140
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,520
I didn't know him.

1141
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,520
And he said, well, I'm actually a very good.

1142
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,520
I'm a real journalist.

1143
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,520
And I write books.

1144
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,520
I said, oh, how interesting.

1145
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,520
And what kind of book do you write?

1146
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,520
He says about the royal family.

1147
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,520
And I thought, well, that's nice.

1148
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,520
That's right.

1149
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,520
He's a royalty expert.

1150
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,520
Yes.

1151
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,520
And of course, it's why he follows us around.

1152
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,520
I just have a new book out of about, uh,

1153
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,520
Beatrix, Queen B.

1154
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,520
Queen B.

1155
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,520
And I said, well, that's nice.

1156
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Sound for him.

1157
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,520
And he sounded very nice.

1158
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,520
And I invited him.

1159
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,520
And I said, well, let's sit down.

1160
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,520
I have a nice, uh, uh, uh, interview.

1161
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,520
And we did.

1162
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,520
And I was a bit disappointed about it.

1163
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,520
Because all the things that we agreed on, uh, he didn't do.

1164
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,520
You know, I always ask, uh, can I read it?

1165
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,520
And if there's anything that's a little bit cold,

1166
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,520
it's a little bit wrong or not my way of saying it.

1167
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,520
Can I change it?

1168
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,520
Sure.

1169
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Sure.

1170
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,520
Never sent it, right?

1171
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,520
Well, he sent it.

1172
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,520
And I.

1173
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,520
You changed it.

1174
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,520
I remember that very clearly.

1175
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,520
Yeah.

1176
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,520
And they never changed.

1177
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,520
You remember what it was.

1178
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,520
And then it came out.

1179
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,520
I don't know.

1180
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,520
Well, the way a Christina was actually, uh, conceived.

1181
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,520
He said, in such a horrible way.

1182
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,520
And then I'm the cover.

1183
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,520
Wait a minute.

1184
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,520
What did I do?

1185
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,520
Well, what did I do?

1186
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,520
How?

1187
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,520
I said he's with Christmas.

1188
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,520
And he made a horrible sort of terrible line.

1189
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,520
You know, remember that?

1190
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,520
And that line was on the cover.

1191
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Uh, just above Christina's head.

1192
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,520
Who was having, like, shag on Christmas.

1193
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,520
Created this.

1194
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,520
Something like that was really, really.

1195
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,520
You don't say that, especially above.

1196
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,520
Well, there you go.

1197
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,520
He doesn't understand what you ever know.

1198
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,520
No.

1199
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,520
He has no, if it's about Christina, he has no feeling.

1200
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,520
He has no idea about family life.

1201
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,520
Oh, my God.

1202
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,520
About family fail use.

1203
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,520
And that's how I know him.

1204
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,520
Right.

1205
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,520
And so you're pointing at me is freaking me out.

1206
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,520
And I called in and I said, why is that on the cover?

1207
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,520
And why did you pick that line and put that above my, my daughter's head?

1208
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,520
And, and he said, well, that's that, that is not my job.

1209
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,520
I didn't do that.

1210
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,520
It's got nothing to do with me.

1211
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Oh, what an ass.

1212
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,520
And he was very nasty.

1213
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,520
And I started to cry.

1214
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,520
I was so disappointed.

1215
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,520
I don't remember that.

1216
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,520
I felt, I was in.

1217
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Did you tell me that?

1218
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,520
If you told me that, I would have kicked his fucking ass.

1219
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,520
You didn't tell me that.

1220
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,520
I was in the studio with, uh, ho for the rose.

1221
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,520
He still knows that.

1222
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:18,520
Did you tell me that?

1223
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,520
Well, and I cried because I felt so.

1224
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,520
You humiliated.

1225
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,520
Yeah.

1226
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,520
Yeah.

1227
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,520
And I felt stupid that I fell for it.

1228
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,520
And, uh, so maybe he's just a mean nasty guy.

1229
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,520
No.

1230
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,520
So, um, that was the last thing I spoken to these years and years.

1231
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,520
It is about, uh, maybe 17 years.

1232
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,520
Yeah.

1233
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,520
What'd you said?

1234
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,520
18 years ago.

1235
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,520
So Christina wasn't born.

1236
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,520
That's not possible.

1237
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,520
She's only 15.

1238
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,520
So I couldn't have been that long.

1239
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,520
I think it must have been 12 years ago.

1240
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,520
12 years ago.

1241
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,520
12 years ago.

1242
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,520
Okay, that's it.

1243
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,520
Let's just play a song and then we'll get back to us.

1244
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,520
Let's just regroup for a song.

1245
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,520
And I never talked to him again.

1246
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,520
That was it.

1247
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,520
Should we wrap this up?

1248
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,520
Play a song and then we'll wrap it all up?

1249
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Yeah.

1250
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,520
Or do you want to, or do you want to continue?

1251
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,520
Depends on?

1252
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,520
What do you guys listening want?

1253
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,520
What?

1254
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,520
I'm asking the listeners what they want.

1255
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Oh, what they want.

1256
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,520
They're like, don't play another fucking shitty song from your

1257
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,520
Dampod Podsate music network.

1258
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,520
Yeah.

1259
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,520
What?

1260
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,520
But you'd like this one, huh?

1261
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,520
Have you asked Rock Chick?

1262
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,520
She'll like it.

1263
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,520
Hey, hey sister.

1264
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Laura Clap.

1265
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,520
Hey, the moment that I knew

1266
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,520
I'm over half the screen

1267
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,520
Just sent a bad decision

1268
00:45:34,520 --> 00:48:22,520
[ Music ]

1269
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,520
She's under self attack

1270
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,520
Up.

1271
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,520
She's under self attack

1272
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,520
Up.

1273
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,520
Up.

1274
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,520
Up.

1275
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,520
Up.

1276
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,520
Up.

1277
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,520
Up.

1278
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,520
To get kept in the trap

1279
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,520
Up.

1280
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,520
Up.

1281
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,520
With up.

1282
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,020
Up.

1283
00:48:42,020 --> 00:48:42,520
Up.

1284
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,520
Up.

1285
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,520
Up.

1286
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Up.

1287
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Up.

1288
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,520
Up.

1289
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,520
Up.

1290
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,520
Up.

1291
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Up.

1292
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,520
Up.

1293
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,520
Up.

1294
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:57,520
Up.

1295
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,520
Up.

1296
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,520
Up.

1297
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Up.

1298
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,520
That's like the sheets in your ass.

1299
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,520
Oh my god.

1300
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,520
You know, this would, I'm so sorry.

1301
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,520
This would be very good song for Charlotte Church.

1302
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,520
Right.

1303
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,520
Oh, right on.

1304
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,520
Yeah, but she pulls it off, man.

1305
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,520
I mean, she sings it well, but.

1306
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,520
But screw it.

1307
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,520
Charlotte Church has nothing on this.

1308
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,520
No, but she could.

1309
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,520
No, no.

1310
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,520
Look, she's cute.

1311
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:22,520
Look.

1312
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:23,520
I know.

1313
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,520
But if she wants to sell the song.

1314
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,520
I like her.

1315
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,520
She looks badass.

1316
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,520
Charlotte is chunky.

1317
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,520
I know.

1318
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,520
I don't care.

1319
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,520
So what do you think Laura should give the song to the chunker?

1320
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,520
Look at her, man.

1321
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:37,520
She's great.

1322
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,520
That's all I say.

1323
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,520
That's old school.

1324
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,520
We are pod safe here.

1325
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,520
And we support the artists.

1326
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,520
Yes.

1327
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,520
And their careers.

1328
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,520
We don't need no stink and mainstream.

1329
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,520
Charlotte, chunky church.

1330
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,520
But she's not the England issue.

1331
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,520
That's what I'm saying.

1332
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,520
I'm bringing Laura Clapper.

1333
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,520
If she wants to sell, you know, if I put Laura Clapper on Jonathan Ross,

1334
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:00,520
Man, immediate overnight.

1335
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,520
Nobody knows her.

1336
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,520
So you wouldn't have to.

1337
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,520
I mean, to get on the show.

1338
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:05,520
Yes.

1339
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,520
To get on the show.

1340
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,520
Okay.

1341
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,520
But I got contacts.

1342
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,520
I'm connected, baby.

1343
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,520
You're talking about it.

1344
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,520
Okay.

1345
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,520
But she's great.

1346
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,520
True.

1347
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,520
Wonderful.

1348
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,520
And what a song.

1349
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,520
Let me just see if she wrote it on the show.

1350
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:20,520
I think she did.

1351
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,520
Let me say music.

1352
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,520
If she wrote it herself.

1353
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,520
Whoa.

1354
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,520
Oh.

1355
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,520
Hey.

1356
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,520
Sister.

1357
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,520
Shapo.

1358
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,520
I guess.

1359
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,520
What is simply?

1360
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,520
No.

1361
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,520
It doesn't say.

1362
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Well, I mean, I don't have liner notes or anything here.

1363
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,520
Okay.

1364
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,520
She's got.

1365
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,520
Oh, man.

1366
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,520
Okay.

1367
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,520
Anyway.

1368
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,520
Very cool.

1369
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,520
You can find that the pot saved music network.

1370
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,520
I heard it on the pot show.

1371
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,520
Music rewind actually.

1372
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,520
That's where it's heard the song.

1373
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,520
It's a great place to pick up music.

1374
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,520
So to end the whole thing.

1375
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:50,520
Yes.

1376
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,520
To wind it all up.

1377
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,520
Somehow we pissed this guy off.

1378
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,520
Yeah.

1379
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,520
This guy.

1380
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,520
I don't know.

1381
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,520
I'm going to have to make him cry.

1382
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:58,520
Yeah.

1383
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,520
I have to make him cry.

1384
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,520
That was so disappointed.

1385
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,520
So I can cry.

1386
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,520
So stupid to fall for it.

1387
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,520
But anyway, after that,

1388
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,520
I actually never talk to him again.

1389
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,520
Because that's what I do.

1390
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,520
If I'm disappointed.

1391
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,520
Oh, well.

1392
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,520
He's just trying to get your attention.

1393
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,520
No, no, no, no, no.

1394
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,520
He doesn't.

1395
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,520
You know that.

1396
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,520
You know there's a whole different side on this whole story.

1397
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,520
And he just hates us.

1398
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,520
And he uses his magazine.

1399
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,520
You know, to get back to us.

1400
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,520
Or into irritators.

1401
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,520
That's all.

1402
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,520
Right.

1403
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,520
And which is fine.

1404
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,520
Because we've got podcasts.

1405
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,520
We've got all kinds of ways to do that.

1406
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,520
By the way, I don't spend a lot of time doing.

1407
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,520
Because we have other fish to fry.

1408
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,520
But that's fine.

1409
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,520
You can do whatever you want.

1410
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,520
But he can't break the law.

1411
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,520
And you know.

1412
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,520
And let me just tell you, wouldn't it be funny if the judge says,

1413
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,520
Well, it was confusing.

1414
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,520
I mean, this is a Yahoo company.

1415
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,520
I mean, this would be big fucking news

1416
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,520
if the creative comments doesn't stick.

1417
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,520
I have to get that.

1418
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,520
Well, she can be legendary.

1419
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,520
She can be legendary by saying, you know what?

1420
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,520
This shit has to stop and it's important that we send out a message.

1421
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,520
And we, and we listen, we do it.

1422
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,520
We do it.

1423
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,520
If we're Warner Brothers records.

1424
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,520
We do it.

1425
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,520
If we're, we're universal pictures.

1426
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,520
We do it.

1427
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,520
If we're Microsoft.

1428
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:10,520
Yeah.

1429
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,520
But what if those guys do it to us?

1430
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,520
Then all of a sudden they can, they can get away with it for just a pay off.

1431
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,520
No, no, no, no, no.

1432
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,520
This, this is a legendary case.

1433
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,520
Legendary.

1434
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,520
If she does it, this could set big, big jurisprudence.

1435
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,520
And Europe, at least.

1436
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,520
Now it would be really important.

1437
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,520
Seriously.

1438
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,520
Let's make a picket line outside the point.

1439
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,520
Okay.

1440
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,520
Why don't you go start hammering the signs.

1441
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,520
You start drawing them and I'll hammer up the wood.

1442
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,520
Hey, baby.

1443
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:35,520
Thanks for coming on the show.

1444
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,520
I love it so much when you're on the show.

1445
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,520
Thank you.

1446
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,520
Yes, today.

1447
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,520
You did a good job.

1448
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,520
Oh, well, it's my pleasure.

1449
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,520
That's my pleasure.

1450
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,520
That's my pleasure.

1451
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,520
Because it's big too much.

1452
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:45,520
Fuck it.

1453
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,520
That's not for, that's his man's job.

1454
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,520
Men gotta go out.

1455
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,520
It's like, you know.

1456
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,520
It's not good for my heart.

1457
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,520
No, no, no, no, no, no.

1458
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,520
Not good at all.

1459
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,520
No, I mean, it's a pain in the ass, but I do with a great pleasure.

1460
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,520
Because I gotta defend you guys somewhere.

1461
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:57,520
And I have to defend.

1462
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:02,520
I have to defend intellectual property across the vast internet.

1463
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,520
Well, everybody.

1464
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,520
God bless the internet.

1465
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,520
And the freedom for which it represents.

1466
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,520
It stands or something like that.

1467
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,520
I gotta work on the speech.

1468
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,520
Okay.

1469
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,520
I love not.

1470
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,520
Okay.

1471
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,520
I need a break now.

1472
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,520
Yeah, no.

1473
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,520
Okay.

1474
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,520
Let's have a cup of tea.

1475
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:18,520
Okay.

1476
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,520
I love you, baby.

1477
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:20,520
I love you too.

1478
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,520
Another pod show pod guest.

1479
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,520
Stick it in your ear.