1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Delta Sierra Charlie 3-4-9er 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Hey Adam, this is Richard Hull. Don't forget to turn off that black pre-before-start recording today. Bye for now. 3 00:00:28,750 --> 00:03:11,000 [ Music ] 4 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,000 I'm a real just for it, I'm a real just for it 5 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,000 I'm a real just for it, I'm a real just for it 6 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Hey! 7 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Oh, a gravity, risen from the Podship Music Network 8 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Everybody how you doing welcome to the 9 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Early source code coming to you once again from the 10 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Curry Cottage in the Fabulous UK 11 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,000 You know, I've noticed a lot of commenters lately have been from the UK 12 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 This, um, hey gravity is also from the UK 13 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,000 What are they? 14 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 A two-girl three-boy dynamic UK-based guitar band 15 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Fronted by Electric Shomtoos singer Justin Barry 16 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Very cool, check it out at music.podshow.com 17 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,000 What is it? 18 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,000 What is it? 19 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,000 I don't know 20 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 I've all kinds of sound issues here today 21 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Sometimes I just wonder if it's my head if it's my brain or my ears or whatever it is 22 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Not a nice day today 23 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 It's raining 24 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Yeah, just, you know, nasties, pouring down rain, dark outside 25 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Not really good other than to sit inside and record a podcast 26 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 And man, I've been so busy doing things 27 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Oh, um, also a video music cast coming up 28 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 I think I'll put one together today 29 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 I've been receiving material from all around the world 30 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Looking for great music videos 31 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Podsafe, of course 32 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 I've received play that aren't podsafe 33 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 And also some fun things I'm going to stick in there 34 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:34,000 So be on the lookout for that to show up in your aggregator and your pod catcher and your iTunes 35 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Or whatever you may be using 36 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Go to dailysourceco.com 37 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,000 And click on the link for, you know, it says direct link to show 38 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Just click on it starts playing, so it's a beautiful thing 39 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Uh, let me see 40 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Let's start off with 41 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 This is the first complaint I've actually heard 42 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,000 About the use of the word the Charlie for the source code 43 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Of course the genesis of this is the daily source code 44 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Uh, I started tagging my podcast, which makes it much much easier for people listening on iPods 45 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 And especially not even iPods 46 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Um, on devices that don't even have a display or a proper display or if you're driving 47 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 And you just, you know, hit the play button 48 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 And you can hear exactly what show it is 49 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 And you kind of remember which show you listened to last 50 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 And that became a bit tiresome 51 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,000 So I changed it to DSC and then I changed it to Delta Sierra Charlie 52 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 And um, I didn't come up with this Charlie thing 53 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,000 And someone actually called it Cha Cha the other day, which is quite frightening 54 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Uh, Mr. Carcran has other thoughts about that 55 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Hi Adam Chris Carcran here from the car cast 56 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Just wanted to send you a little piece of feedback 57 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 And ask you a question 58 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 And I've never asked you to change anything about your show 59 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:44,000 I would not even pretend to know as much about programming a podcast as you do 60 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 But I gotta make this request 61 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Lately, you and your listeners have started calling the daily source code the Charlie 62 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Just wanted to maybe we could stop using the phrase the Charlie 63 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 And the reason is as I'm a 32 year old man 64 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 I've been in broadcasting for 10 years 65 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Now I'm doing podcasting exclusively 66 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 And uh, I'm 67 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 No pansy 68 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,000 But 69 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 As a child 70 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 My mom used the word Charlie for something other than someone's name 71 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 In fact 72 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,000 That's a nickname my mom gave a male penis 73 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,000 If a time I was a little kid until probably about the fourth grade 74 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 All I knew I never knew the word penis 75 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Hold on, did you say male penis? 76 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 As opposed to female 77 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Female penis? 78 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,000 We just called it a Charlie 79 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,000 So you can imagine the way that I feel and the 80 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Repulsion I feel every time I hear someone say 81 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Talk to you on the Charlie 82 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Or 83 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000 I heard on the Charlie 84 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Or 85 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Catch you on the Charlie 86 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 I just I can't do it anymore 87 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 So just wondering is a suggestion 88 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 And if you say no I'll understand of course I'll keep listening 89 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 But I'm sorry to go that out to you 90 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Thanks for doing what you do and of course if you're listeners want to check us out 91 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,000 They can't at thecarcast.com 92 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Or they can search out an iTunes 93 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Just search for the carcast 94 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Thanks Adam and talk to you soon 95 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Yo dude 96 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 So that's kind of weird 97 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 I'm older than you are 98 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Almost ten years older than you are 99 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,000 And I grew up my parents are really specific you know 100 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 It's a penis. It's a vagina 101 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 And this is what it's called you know like an arm or a leg or whatever 102 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,000 This is oh this pure I presume you're from the US 103 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Very pure a technical 104 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 I oh I despise that so much 105 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,000 You know not calling things by the proper name 106 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Your PP your thing your wing 107 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 It's just a penis and by the way 108 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 I'm very proud of my penis 109 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,000 I like my penis 110 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 How can you be freaked out when someone talks about penis? 111 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Come on man, it's been there for a number of years 112 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 And I've kind of figured out how to use it 113 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000 And I'm getting pretty good at that actually 114 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,000 So so Patricia tells me I'm improving 115 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,000 But no no no please parents 116 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Just call it by its proper name 117 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:01,000 My gosh, you know they'll learn how to what other names are easier and sound better later on in life 118 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,000 But come on tell them what it's for tell them what it does tell them what it's called 119 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,000 And I appreciate the feedback 120 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 But that's just not enough to change the change 121 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Using the phrase to Charlie 122 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,000 The pod show podcast network is really coming together 123 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,000 We have a whole bunch of beta tester podcasters 124 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Who are actually using the system in two parts 125 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,000 They're using the the upload functionality 126 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:31,000 And our de-gap dynamically generated audio placement system 127 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,000 For their uploads most of them are using their own wordpress web logs or wordpress web logs that we've set up 128 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Which of course will not be the final solution we have a whole show site that is automatically created 129 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 And adapted with every single upload 130 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,000 It's become very very easy and had a brief email exchange with cast blaster mic this morning 131 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Looks like we're down to the wire here on integrating cast blaster 132 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Which is the program I'm using 133 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 You can find that at castblaster.com 134 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 It's really really really simple 135 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 And when it integrates with the PDN, yesterday by the way 136 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 You might have seen a really strange URL for the 137 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 For the Charlie 138 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,000 On 348 139 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:16,000 That was because I tested the de-gap and PDN system myself yesterday for the first time 140 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,000 And it held together 141 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:22,000 I did get some one piece of feedback about something in the ID three tags being wrong 142 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 I'm not quite sure what that was about but I'm getting screenshots 143 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,000 And we'll have more feedback on ID three tags later on in today's source code 144 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,000 But what's really cool is we have a number of people 145 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Predominantly I'd have to say Richard Brue were hey 146 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Who really does all of the he manages all the relationships with the podcasters 147 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,000 And you know and delegate stuff for escalate stuff 148 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Whatever has to be done 149 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 But he's really the main point of contact 150 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 He's doing it such a great job and you can see how 151 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 And they have wiki set up and mailing list and god 152 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 I don't know all kinds of stuff 153 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,000 And people start to communicate and figuring out how to get stuff across the network 154 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,000 We're learning how to schedule things and Jay Donnelly is one of these guys 155 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Who really gets it and he's doing some incredible stuff 156 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Since he joined the net actually's been doing lots of incredible stuff 157 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 But since he joined the network he's coming up with more and more 158 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Including some very interesting 159 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Super celebrity interviews 160 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 And that was a cue to start 161 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,000 There we go 162 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Hey this is Jay Donnelly from madpod.com 163 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,000 And on this week show we have an exclusive interview with Thomas Dolby 164 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Shadow has an exclusive interview with the man blinded by science 165 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 And he talks about the future is podcasting 166 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Thomas what's your take on top 40 radio these days 167 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Compared with 20 years ago 168 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,000 I don't listen to top 40 radio these days 169 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 So I'm really not qualified to answer that 170 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 But it doesn't really appeal to me 171 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 You know I don't listen to very much of it 172 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Occasionally I hear a hit that I like 173 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Occasionally I'll focus on just one piece of a song 174 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 You know like I don't know 175 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Personally that's not where I look for inspiration 176 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 I look for inspiration on the satellite radio now 177 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Which I think is much more varied 178 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,000 On internet radio stations and podcasting 179 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,000 What it becomes a collective program from Santa Monica 180 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,000 I'll podcast that and take it to the gym with me 181 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 So you know I tend to reach a little bit further in 182 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,000 than standard top 40 radio 183 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,000 20 years ago I wouldn't say you know radio had a white night 184 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,000 I'd say that already radio was in a state where 185 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,000 You know computer generated playlists were starting to dominate 186 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,000 You know it was all about keeping up with the front runners 187 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,000 It was all about the the ads and the rotation and so on 188 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,000 DJs were not really choosing their own songs 189 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:54,000 You didn't get a sense of you know a single guiding intelligence behind the playlists 190 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,000 It felt like big corporations were already involved 191 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,000 I know a lot of people complain about how it's become consolidated 192 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,000 You know by a few big companies now 193 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 And that's certainly I don't think it's a good thing for radio 194 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 You're global audio internet connection 195 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,000 J. A. Domali and Shadows to you 196 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Mad 197 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Don't get mad 198 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Get media 199 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Mad 200 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Coming up this weekend on madpot.com 201 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Yo excellente 202 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 It was something else that was going to happen today 203 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,000 What the hell was it? 204 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 I was um as I was playing that 205 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 J. Domali clip I was thinking 206 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,000 I've been sleeping really really deeply 207 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Maybe that's it 208 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Maybe I'm not awake yet. It'll come to me. I'm sure 209 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Um more pod save music on the way in today's show 210 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,000 And quite an interesting conversation about ID three tags that we started 211 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Just the other day 212 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,000 Predominantly as it pertains to the pod save music network 213 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,000 And I just want to reiterate the pod save music network is a network 214 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 It's not a store. It's not necessarily a website 215 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 It's a network where people come together 216 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,000 Where they contribute where they you know contribute karma 217 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,000 They take away karma. They report back karma 218 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Um and you know and this is really intended because it doesn't make sense to have 219 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 A real central resource because we have that 220 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,000 You know it's called iTunes and and and all that stuff 221 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 You know you get what you want 222 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Um and they have tons of people working on that 223 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Well tons I mean I think the iTunes team of course by you know 224 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Relatively speaking is small but still you have to have four or five people 225 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Working on stuff and making sure everything you know works perfectly 226 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,000 And that would either mean tremendous scale to be able to afford it 227 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Um or price fixing which is another thing that is being talked about quite a bit 228 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,000 lately 229 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Um 230 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Well let's see what this particular piece of feedback is about because it does pertain to all of us 231 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Whether you're a listener, a podcaster or an independent artist who wants to contribute to the network 232 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Hey Adam Dave Jacobs from the rock and roll Jew show, rock and roll, Jew.com 233 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:02,000 I want to disagree with you on the ID3 tags and the pod save music network deal 234 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Uh as a music podcaster I also have had frustrations in downloading tracks 235 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Not just from pod save music network but all kinds of other places on the net 236 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:19,000 And they sometimes will come down with no MP3 tags or really messed up MP3 tags 237 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,000 It really does make things a lot more difficult for the podcaster 238 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,000 And I can imagine for the music producer as well 239 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Who's even less forgiving than a podcaster 240 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Now you can say hey you know this is the store 241 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 It's up to the bands and if it's all messed up 242 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 People just won't buy from those bands anymore 243 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Unfortunately I think if you really step back and look at it from a customer perspective 244 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,000 That's just not what they're going to think 245 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:54,000 The customer really doesn't know nor do they care that it's up to the bands do this 246 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 And is not pod shows responsibility 247 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,000 They don't know nor do they care that you're not trying to run a store 248 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,000 All they know is hey there's cool music on this thing and I want to buy it 249 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,000 And when I buy it I want to get it and when I get it I want it to be right 250 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Period and if it's not right again 251 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 They don't know who's in charge 252 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 They're just going to come straight back to you 253 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 And that's going to be a real problem for pod show 254 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 When people download music and something's not right with it 255 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,000 They're going to come straight back to you 256 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,000 They're not going to go to the band and say hey I download one of your tracks 257 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,000 And it's all messed up 258 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,000 No they're going to come straight back to the pod and say 259 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,000 Music network owner because you are you know the face of the whole thing 260 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,000 So I think you really have to think about it from that perspective 261 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,000 And realize that you might end up with a big customer service problem 262 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Whether you like it or not because in the mind of the consumer 263 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,000 That's just the way they're going to approach this 264 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Even though you might like it to be somewhat different 265 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 So I don't know what the solution is 266 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,000 I'm sure there's some sort of a technology thing that can be worked to make it better 267 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,000 And I will as a podcaster and music consumer put the shout out to all bands 268 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Hey guys 269 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Really be careful with your MP3 tags 270 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Take the time to do it right and make sure that it's good 271 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Because when people download this stuff you want it to be right 272 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000 It just makes for a better experience for everybody 273 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 And that's it 274 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Talk to you later 275 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,000 Bye bye 276 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Well I'm going to respectfully disagree with you 277 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 They are first of all you're talking about customers 278 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 These are not pod shows customers 279 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,000 These are customers of the bands 280 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Okay 281 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,000 So you know if we're going to provide customer service 282 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,000 Well then we have to stand for some form of service 283 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,000 The show was really trying to be a resource in this by providing the resources to pull it all together 284 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,000 And have a central place where commerce can take place 285 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,000 But also people should be able to get in contact with the bands 286 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 That's all coming it as we revamp the pod state music network 287 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 It's all part of the grand master plan 288 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Oh I remember today when's that? 289 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Yes, I do remember 290 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,000 I believe today Rob Wall should podcast 411 291 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Has an interview with myself Ron Bloom and Bill Reinhard from 292 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Limelight networks we're talking about the pdn 293 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 So make sure you check that out 294 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,000 I haven't seen it show up yet 295 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,000 But I believe it's today it's being released 296 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,000 So back to this 297 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,000 And also I don't believe that people by the way 298 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,000 If people do all of a sudden just start showing up 299 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 At the pod save music network and saying 300 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Unlistening and you know cruising through songs 301 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,000 And listening to them and saying here something cool all by it 302 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 I would be surprised 303 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000 And if we get to that point where people come in 304 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Drows will then we will have to rethink the strategy perhaps 305 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Or work with the other partners which are podcasters 306 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,000 And are independent artists 307 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 On coming up with better solutions 308 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000 But for my money 309 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 I see every single independent artist or band 310 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 As their own mini corporation 311 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,000 And they don't need a record company for promotion 312 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Or for support 313 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,000 Because you know it's pretty 314 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Cost effective these days to record your own music 315 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,000 And the only people really involved are the the listen of the podcaster 316 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,000 And the artists but they are working together 317 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,000 What's been happening so far is 318 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,000 People here are song on a podcast 319 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,000 They go to show notes or they go directly to the pod save music network 320 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Sometimes directly to the artist's site 321 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 It's all good to me 322 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 And that's where they should be able to find out more information 323 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Now as a corporation 324 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,000 It is the responsibility of the person 325 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Actually pod show is not selling anything 326 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 The artists are selling this 327 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,000 We're just making it all possible 328 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 And by keeping the overhead as low as possible 329 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Right now as you know as we enter into our beta period 330 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,000 And a couple of songs are available on the network 331 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,000 We're not taking any cut 332 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 It's a nine cents that goes to our partner 333 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 For doing the transaction 334 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 And the rest goes directly to the artist 335 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 And in the future we want to split that up 336 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,000 As the unlabel concept starts to expand 337 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,000 And snap together 338 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,000 Once we have those freaking emails worked out 339 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000 So we can actually sign people up properly 340 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000 We're getting very close 341 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Once we have that done 342 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Then 343 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,000 I lost my train of thought 344 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Screw it 345 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 My point is it is up to the band 346 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Or the artist 347 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,000 They are responsible for that 348 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Now there are some things we couldn't put 349 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 We can put in place that I thought of 350 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,000 While listening to your comment before I start to do the show today 351 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000 One is of course 352 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 When you upload something 353 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,000 And I don't have an artist account 354 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 So I actually have to check into this 355 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000 The first thing that we can have is all kinds of flags 356 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 And warnings that say please enter your ID 357 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Three information is important 358 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Then we could have a version of 359 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000 I guess we could have some kind of checker 360 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000 That once a file is uploaded it checks for ID 361 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Three tags 362 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,000 But maybe the best way to do this 363 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Is something like the CD database 364 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,000 I've always loved that concept 365 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000 And I'm sure it still exists 366 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,000 And maybe we can tie into it 367 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Or let's just create our own for pod safe music 368 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,000 And if you've ever seen how that works 369 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,000 If you go to burn a CD 370 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Or use to work this way 371 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Or not burn if you want to rip a CD 372 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 Is it just rip? 373 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Yeah, then you'd insert the CD 374 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,000 Your program would go out to the CD database 375 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 See if there's already an entry for it 376 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Because they're all marked specifically 377 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000 If there's not an entry for it 378 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Then you're asked to enter the tracks 379 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,000 And information yourself 380 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000 And then I think it looks at 381 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Three or four different entries before 382 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000 It makes a final entry and it locks it down 383 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 And that's it 384 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 So we could do something like that 385 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Which would then reverse 386 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Engineer the ID three tags back into it 387 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,000 I still think it comes down to the artists 388 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Having to do that if they're serious about their art 389 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 And selling it or distributing it 390 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Then they're going to have to 391 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000 You know, they're going to have to do some extra work 392 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 And it's not all that much work 393 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 It's just, you know, people don't realize 394 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,000 And it's so awareness is the main thing that we can take care of 395 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,000 But again, not a store, not into customer service 396 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,000 And we already have plenty of customer service 397 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 And we're dealing with 398 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 With the staff that we have available 399 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 Jonathan Quirk 400 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Sent an interesting email 401 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Understand the radio station consoles 402 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Often have a cough button that mutes the microphone 403 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,000 For as long as it's pressed 404 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Yeah, that's pretty traditional 405 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Given your frequent gastious emissions that you blame on the coffee 406 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,000 Perhaps casplaster might could add a 407 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Senseo button to casplaster 408 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,000 This would spare our ears from what is becoming 409 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Tiresome with repetition 410 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Rather than dead air resulting from its use 411 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,000 Maybe it would pause the recording momentarily 412 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Or it could mute the mic and insert the words 413 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000 And say when you're best speaking voice 414 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Well, saving us from another bell 415 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Well, a casplaster actually has that 416 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,000 It's called pause and it's called talk 417 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,000 You couldn't click either button off if you want 418 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,000 But I think you what you want is you want it on the listener side 419 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 You want some kind of warning when it's coming up 420 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,000 So that you don't have to listen to it 421 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000 No, that is not one of the features planned on the 422 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,000 The final release candidate of casplaster 423 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Which is coming up 424 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 We're just about to release one point out 425 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 We'll just about casplaster mic and I 426 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000 And I'm not talking about it 427 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,000 It's what do you up to beta 61 and beta 61 which isn't out yet 428 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Mike has done something incredible 429 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 He really went the extra mile and I appreciate it 430 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,000 And I'm sure the droves of 431 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Other people are going to appreciate it 432 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Because he he started to work on the accessibility 433 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000 And we've talked about this many times before 434 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 But blind the blind community 435 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,000 Has problems with lots of websites 436 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000 That there's screen readers can't follow 437 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,000 We have plenty of issues with that 438 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000 And you know and I have committed to working on that 439 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,000 As soon as we get some of the basic stuff out 440 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,000 And rolling we're going to be doing some work in that area 441 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,000 And proof of that is Mike who is made casplaster 442 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Accessible 443 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Now I believe that it's already accessible 444 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,000 You know the all the play buttons and everything 445 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:46,000 We'll respond in the was it jaws or whatever other screen reader 446 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 A blind person can use 447 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,000 But the problem has always been the levels, the meter 448 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,000 So I have a visual feedback here 449 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Which is basically like two LED meters 450 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 That are yellow and then they go into green 451 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 And then they go into red if you're over modulating 452 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,000 And he sent me a little clip yesterday 453 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,000 Which I don't know if he'd want me to play that 454 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,000 In fact most of it's in Dutch 455 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000 But it's really cool you can set it up 456 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,000 So that if you start to hit the peak limit the peak volume 457 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 You get a little 458 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Audio feedback in your headphones 459 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,000 Which will only be in your headphones 460 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 So it isn't actually recorded on the show 461 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,000 So then you know you have to pull back your volume 462 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,000 A little bit which is just fantastic 463 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,000 And I think that we could have all kinds of audio cues 464 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Going on to be very, very cool 465 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000 So look forward to that 466 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000 I believe that's coming out in version 61 467 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Hey Adam it's Heather from Ruby Food Radio 468 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Where it's all girls all the time 469 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 And I've been listening to everybody 470 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,000 Gush about Laura Clap over the course of the past couple of episodes of the DSC 471 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,000 And I'm really glad she's finally getting some attention 472 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Because she's an amazing talent and she really deserves all the accolades that she's getting 473 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000 And women don't seem to be getting much attention in the podcasting world 474 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000 But hopefully that's going to change soon 475 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000 I for one I'm trying to do my part 476 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,000 So if you want to hear other great female artists like Laura check out my show 477 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000 Ruby Food Radio at RubyFruitRadio.com 478 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,000 I am subscribed more chicks in podcasting 479 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Love it 480 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000 If you're checking out this podcast on serious stars 481 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,000 The pod show podcast line up coming up 482 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,000 We have Pacific Coast Hellway 483 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Then a full hour of yeast radio 484 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Don and Drew go more daily after that 485 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Then Brian know with the Frank Truth 486 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,000 And we wind it up with the Michael Butler within half hour of the best in pod safe music 487 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,000 And I'll be back here tomorrow for the Thursday edition 488 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,000 The satellite window is closing 489 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Wave goodbye to our friends at Sirius 490 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,000 And it's just us here back together 491 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,000 This is great emails 492 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Dave 493 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,000 I won't tell you where Dave is from you'll find out 494 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000 Well I guess I can he's from the poop report 495 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Hey Adam with Chris Rockwell obviously suffering the world's worst case of constipation 496 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,000 That means he hasn't done a daily download in months 497 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 I turn to you 498 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,000 poop for peace day is coming on April 14th 499 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Without Chris you are my conduit to the podcasting world 500 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,000 And thus humanities greatest hope 501 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000 The message of poop for peace day is simple 502 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Republican or Democrat 503 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000 I really need some some music for this 504 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Well I'll just give it a little echo 505 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000 The message of poop for peace day is simple 506 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Republican or Democrat black or white 507 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Man or woman Christian 508 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,000 We all suffer equally under the tyranny of the bowel 509 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,000 pooping is the only point of commonality 510 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000 All human beings face and as such 511 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,000 It can be the basis for world peace 512 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,000 So if you want to know more 513 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Go to poop report dot com slash piece to get information sign up for an email reminder 514 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 And download banners and posters 515 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,000 You know strange things have happened 516 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Some have changed the world by sitting in the back of the bus 517 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000 And some could change to 518 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Oh man 519 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000 And some can change the world just by sitting on the throne 520 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,000 Comics trip 521 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Comics trip 522 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Comics trip 523 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Comics trip 524 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Oh man it just gets better 525 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000 I don't know if he's going to send in a comment every day he keeps threatening not to 526 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,000 But then he keeps sending in fantastic audio comments ladies and gentlemen 527 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 It is not mad wine scene 528 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 This is a real person a real 529 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 I'd have to say fan of the show 530 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000 There's no other reason why it'd be so 531 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Intricately involved 532 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Yesterday asked our friend comic strip blogger 533 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 What his talents are what he can do 534 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 You know what are his skills 535 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,000 And maybe we can work with him in that regard 536 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 You know I always see the positive in people and 537 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Comics are bloggers been 538 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,000 He wants me to use the word candid 539 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000 But I would say in some ways abusive 540 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Certainly of the English language 541 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 In the comments at curry.com 542 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Which regard the daily source code 543 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000 And I asked him to let me know 544 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 You know what he does he certainly seems to have a lot of time on his hands 545 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,000 And here's his response 546 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,000 I don't carry my skills 547 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000 I don't want that to know 548 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Frisky you are 549 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Well no point in elaborating on that I see 550 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Because I am not your whole 551 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000 I repeat 552 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000 I am not your whole 553 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 So unless you seriously 554 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Want to hire me at Potshore Inc 555 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Stop being so curious for a fact's sake 556 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Generally 557 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000 I have impression that you are one of those gazes 558 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Who like to play 559 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Unsuriously with people 560 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Like cats play with mice 561 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Show me wrong 562 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,000 And agree on granting me in person 563 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000 And interview mainly about mobile phones 564 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000 And then I will tell you my skillset 565 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000 The other shit 566 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Why? 567 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,000 I should give you information 568 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,000 If you don't want to give me an interview 569 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000 Cut the crap alright 570 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000 You have your head stuck up your ass 571 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Adam curry 572 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,000 So let's change topic 573 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000 For me to poop on 574 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Take a cue there 575 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 From... 576 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Was it the insult comic dog? 577 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 No no no comic street blogger 578 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,000 I'm sorry 579 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 It works the other way around 580 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 You want the interview 581 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 You got to do something for me first 582 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 So tell us a little bit about you 583 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000 And you know 584 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000 You can send in your questions 585 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000 I'll answer them 586 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000 I love mobile phones 587 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000 That's all I have to say about the topic 588 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 But we still love to know more about what you're about 589 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000 And what makes you taken 590 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,000 What you can do 591 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000 And how we could put you to good use 592 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,000 Comic street blogger 593 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,000 That's really what we want 594 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Hi there 595 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000 I'm Doug Rhapson 596 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000 The host of geek acres 597 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 It's a weekly podcast 598 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,000 About 599 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Well 600 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Geek stuff 601 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 The internet science fiction 602 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000 And other good stuff 603 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Hmm 604 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000 That's not a particularly good description 605 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Maybe I could get someone to help explain it 606 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,000 Oh 607 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,000 There's my friend Kelly 608 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Hey 609 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Kelly Lewis 610 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 How would you explain my podcast 611 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Geek acres 612 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000 It's about three generations of women 613 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,000 And their lives 614 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 And it's very very witty 615 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000 And the characters talk very very fast 616 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Um 617 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Okay 618 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000 Yeah 619 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Thanks 620 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000 Maybe we need to dive into this 621 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Um 622 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Oh 623 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000 There's Steve Ealy 624 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000 He knows about podcasts 625 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,000 Steve 626 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,000 Steve 627 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000 How would you say that Geek acres has changed the potosphere 628 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000 I believe that we live in an era 629 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Where anything that can be expressed as bits will be 630 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000 I believe that bits exist to be copied 631 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000 That's 632 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000 Deep 633 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Are you getting a sense of the show yet? 634 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000 It's video games 635 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000 A generation of women 636 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000 And some bits 637 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Anything we've missed even 638 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaks on a mobile 639 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Play 640 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Yeah 641 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000 That too 642 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Look, he'll just have to check it out 643 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Geek acres 644 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000 The weekly podcast 645 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000 Available at geekakers.com 646 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Or via iTunes 647 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Hey Adam 648 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000 It's Adam here 649 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000 Where are doing the course on podcasts 650 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000 I'm podcasting.au 651 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000 We're just listening to the childy episode 652 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Three, four, two 653 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000 About people ripping off your flicker images 654 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Oh man 655 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,000 That was such a real bummer 656 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,000 What he did extremely bad 657 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Good luck with the core case 658 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,000 And I hope it's got news 659 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 If you want to see our flicker images 660 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000 Go to the tax schoolworks 661 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,000 All on word 662 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Or go to podcasting.au 663 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000 All right, fun to visit 664 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000 I'm before I say in Patrick's day trying 665 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Podcasting.au 666 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000 And if you're coming 667 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000 Bring me something for this 668 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Yeah 669 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Influencing children all over the world 670 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000 Very proud of the job I'm doing 671 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,000 That's podcasting.au 672 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,000 By the way 673 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000 A bunch of kids who are doing some podcasting 674 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,000 It's great 675 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Check them out podcasting.au 676 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Let's get back into that 677 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,000 Multi-teared internet thing 678 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,000 Because a lot of confusion about 679 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,000 The two issues at hand 680 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000 One is email 681 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,000 ISPs 682 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Where you get an email address 683 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Filtering out all kinds of email 684 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Which actually you want to receive 685 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000 And basically 686 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,000 Charging for email 687 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000 That you may not want to receive 688 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000 And then of course 689 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,000 There's the AT&T 690 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,000 Controversy 691 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,000 I love seeing that word 692 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000 The AT&T Controversy 693 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000 They're saying that they want to charge 694 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Services like Google 695 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000 Like Yahoo 696 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000 I'm sure eventually 697 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,000 Potcho too 698 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000 And if you start a business 699 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000 They'll charge you too 700 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,000 Just like they're 701 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,000 You know they're 702 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Calling our email spam now 703 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,000 The same will happen 704 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,000 And people I just get tons of email 705 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,000 The people are saying 706 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Oh, now I finally get it 707 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,000 You know I wasn't getting 708 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Registration emails through 709 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000 So here's where it gets a bit 710 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Confusing 711 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Myo Yard Enough 712 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000 So to add them 713 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000 Listening to Charlie 248 714 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,000 I think 348 715 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Not so easy to get around 716 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Large ISPs like AT&T 717 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000 Bill South or even AOL 718 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000 See you may reject them as your ISPs 719 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000 So that you vote with your money 720 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Which is what I said yesterday 721 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,000 As you know if you have if you're 722 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,000 With an ISP that is charging money 723 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,000 To receive email 724 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Then you may want to consider 725 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000 Taking your money elsewhere 726 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000 However that's not so easy 727 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000 You see AT&T and others own large 728 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000 Backbones that are throughout the whole 729 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,000 Continent and that smaller 730 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000 Broadband ISPs rely on 731 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000 You may be choosing your own smaller 732 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Small ISPs but because they rely on 733 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Large ISPs to serve their customers 734 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Voting with your money becomes irrelevant 735 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000 As AT&T will be taxing your small ISPs 736 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Instead of you, AT&T doesn't care who they tax 737 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 And the small ISPs will increase their prices 738 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000 To cope with so that you get hit 739 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,000 Anyway 740 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000 Just some food for thought 741 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Agree something has to be done about it 742 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Tearing the network is ridiculous 743 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,000 Enjoy Myo 744 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Okay, so a couple things here 745 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000 First of all, service is like Google 746 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000 And also the Pod Show PDM 747 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,000 Doesn't work 748 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000 It's not like we got out 749 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000 We went out and bought three gigabits worth of bandwidth 750 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000 That is the model that I believe will not scale 751 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 For the type of media that we're looking at 752 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000 In fact, I've been sitting here watching 753 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000 A show download from Potomatic.com 754 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,000 I have no idea if it's their bandwidth 755 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Or what it is but it's just been grinding away 756 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000 For an hour trying to download one podcast 757 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000 They're whole site of slow 758 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000 This is because 759 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000 This is huge data 760 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000 This is just unbelievable 761 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000 If you take all these podcasts, the size of the files 762 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000 And the number of people that are downloading 763 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Companies like Google and Pot Show as well 764 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000 We have either directly or indirectly 765 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000 If peering agreements 766 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,000 So we sit actually at a different place 767 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,000 Where we connect to backbones like AT&T 768 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000 And there's no money changing hands and no taxation 769 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000 It's really okay, you're going to give me this bandwidth 770 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000 I'm going to pass off this much to you 771 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000 It's kind of equal so we call it a peering agreement 772 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,000 Because we're peers 773 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000 So no money actually changes hands at that point 774 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000 This is down at the consumer end 775 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000 Which is a lot more interesting 776 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,000 Because you have basically paid for your eight megabits per second 777 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000 And they're going to tax that 778 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000 A little bit further up the pipeline 779 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000 You know as to what comes in 780 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000 So it could indeed affect your ISP 781 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,000 But I think most ISPs 782 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,000 Have similar type of arrangements 783 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,000 Peering agreements the larger ones 784 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000 Not everyone has to participate in this multi-tiered system 785 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000 As it pertains to email 786 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000 I don't think that 787 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Any backbone provider will filter the email 788 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000 This is the ISPs services themselves 789 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Who are of course performing a great service 790 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000 By filtering out all the spam that you don't want 791 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,000 But I believe we're performing a true disservice 792 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,000 If they charge companies for sending email for guaranteed delivery 793 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000 That was not the intent of email 794 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,000 Not the way it was supposed to be set up 795 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000 And it's just a bad idea 796 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000 Hi Adam, it's Barry Reiketer at thickandblock.com 797 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Catching a couple of DSC's lately 798 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Sorry the Charlie 799 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000 Notice one of my co-workers Matt Snaggress 800 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000 Posted audio feedback 801 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000 Well it turns out 802 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,000 I RIT department should be writing you a check 803 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Because I only found out that I was missing out on some pod show emails 804 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Because they were getting trapped in our spam filter 805 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,000 So went back and looked and sure enough there was some emails from you 806 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000 Which brings us to another subject 807 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,000 I know this has been a big subject on the Charlie for the last couple episodes 808 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000 I managed to catch an episode of this week in tech 809 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,000 And they were talking about it too 810 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000 But the idea about this couple of things on spam 811 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,000 And certified emails and AOL charging 812 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,000 This whole issue can be really resolved with something that you 813 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000 You mentioned a few episodes ago 814 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000 Which is you know RSS 815 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000 I mean it's a solution 816 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Why you know I know you mentioned 817 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Not wanting to talk about technology on the show 818 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,000 But it's just so brain dead easy to have an RSS reader 819 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000 And subscribe to feeds of things 820 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,000 Instead of jamming up people's email boxes 821 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,000 It'll be guaranteed you'll get more data probably 822 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000 That people are looking at it 823 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,000 Because you can go back to web server logs 824 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Or a advertiser or a content publisher 825 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000 Corporations should use it internally 826 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000 You could have the HR channel 827 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000 You could have the facilities, the parking lot channel 828 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,000 You could even have that there's leftover pizza in the kitchen channel 829 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000 So I mean RSS seems like the solution 830 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,000 I wonder why more corporations and publishers and marketers aren't adopting it 831 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Because that seems to be the way to go 832 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000 Anyway Adam, that's my rant 833 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000 Thanks for listening and keep up the great work 834 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Love the new long format shows 835 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000 Hope you keep those up too 836 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Thanks a lot 837 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,000 I really appreciate the feedback that these two guys are giving me 838 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Because they're actually in a way 839 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000 They're customers of pod show 840 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 But they're very, very on the ball 841 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000 These guys from the advertising and marketing community 842 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000 And they are really all over this stuff 843 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000 And so first of all I appreciate that 844 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Second of all you have course RSS is going to be great 845 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,000 You know, I think we still need better aggregators, better news readers 846 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Anxiously awaiting the arrival of Windows Vista 847 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,000 Which will have an RSS engine built inside 848 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,000 That all kinds of new applications will be able to be built on 849 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000 And of course that's where we can start to integrate 850 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000 RSS delivery 851 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,000 That you can integrate right into 852 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000 I guess right into an email client if you will 853 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000 It could look like email except you could actually have a little button 854 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000 I don't receive email from this person anymore 855 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,000 Actually, I just had an interesting idea 856 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,000 So what if we had some kind of interim gateway 857 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000 Let's just say it's on your computer right? 858 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000 And email comes in 859 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000 And let's just say it's completely 860 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Oh man that's going to be so tough 861 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000 Hmm 862 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,000 Maybe you can set up a channel so that if I sent you an email 863 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000 It would be from Atomacrui.com 864 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000 And that would you say okay turn this into a channel 865 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000 Which means guaranteed delivery to you 866 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,000 And it would show up just like regular email 867 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000 And of course on the other side 868 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000 I mean this is all under the hood stuff 869 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,000 So no one would ever have to see this 870 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,000 I think the only additional thing is 871 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,000 A button in your email client that says 872 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,000 And forget how we do it under the hood RSS 873 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,000 I think is probably perfect 874 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,000 But let's just forget that 875 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000 Let's just say you had one extra piece of functionality 876 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000 That showed up in all email clients 877 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000 And that was 878 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000 No longer receive email from 879 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,000 Let's not call it spam 880 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000 Let's just say no longer receive email from 881 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000 This person or this entity 882 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,000 Or definitely you know always receive email from this person or entity 883 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Maybe maybe that would work 884 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000 But the real problem comes down to the registration emails 885 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000 When you're making that first initial contact 886 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,000 So I have Joan Kelly who writes in 887 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,000 Hey Adam I'm a lady listener from Australia 888 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Ah 889 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000 It's the Sheila 890 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000 We call you Sheila's down under 891 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Firstly thanks so much for the Charlie 892 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,000 The Charlie 893 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000 I love your show 894 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000 You are such a pal from me to listen to 895 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,000 During my driving time or other times when my ears are free 896 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000 You are an inspiration with lots of creative energy 897 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000 Good great communication 898 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Believe you said a good example 899 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000 Okay, that's all I thank you very much 900 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000 A refreshing change from the pathetic siege 901 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Mentality of big business and it's death throws 902 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000 This crazy stuff of emails not getting through 903 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,000 When people try to reach their customers 904 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Is legitimate transactions 905 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000 Just makes me so cross 906 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000 I did experience that problem when registering 907 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000 On the positive music network to make a test purchase 908 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,000 Finally I realized lots of mail went a stray from various podcasts 909 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Or when I tried to register or obtain logins or something 910 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000 Including even the Don and Drew Show and many many others 911 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000 They probably thought their listeners were either 912 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,000 Giving bogus email addresses or letting their replies 913 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000 Or letting their replies get lost in a junk mail folders 914 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000 See this is not just pod show 915 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000 It's all kinds of emails and registration 916 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000 Things that are going back and forth 917 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000 These really big these really 918 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000 But really these idiot big email companies 919 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,000 Are vandalizing the email process 920 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000 It was well known that hotmail block Gmail invitations 921 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,000 I didn't actually know that how lame is that 922 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000 Oh 923 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000 But I presume they were just 924 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Singling them out to hurt email competition 925 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000 I think that's really wrong by the way 926 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,000 I have used my noxious little hotmail account for situations 927 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Where I may be allowing my address to get into the wild 928 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000 But now I realize that all 929 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000 A hotmail account is good for is for collecting spam 930 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000 The legitimate mail often can't even get through the junk folder 931 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Spam starts before you even open your hotmail account 932 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Of course since every possible address seems to be already on 933 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000 The spam or list 934 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Getting to the point at last 935 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000 I realize I must be kinder to genuine organizations 936 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000 Or sites that I communicate with 937 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Especially if an automated reply or applying bulk may be involved 938 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000 And give them the address from my own mail server 939 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000 So they can reach me without some poor guy having to manually 940 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000 Resend a password to log in thinking to me 941 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000 Interesting that's such individual manually operated 942 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,000 Generated messages from PMN do arrive but not the automated ones 943 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,000 Okay, so first of all 944 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000 Yeah, that's true 945 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000 Both Chris Rockwell and Chris McIntyre 946 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000 Rockwell for pod sake music network and McIntyre for pod cast 947 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Ali actually do I think combine the probably about 100 emails a day 948 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000 They were approving manually and sending out 949 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,000 I guess from different email accounts or something that does work and does get through 950 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000 And that's a huge burden 951 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000 I mean may seem pretty easy but it's not 952 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,000 You know this stuff is supposed to be automatic 953 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000 It's supposed to get there automatic 954 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,000 So but I just had another idea about this because of course 955 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,000 The ultimate solution is to run your own email service 956 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,000 Now this is where it gets kind of kind of funky 957 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,000 But wouldn't it be great 958 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000 God do you remember the cube 959 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000 Which I who made the cube 960 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,000 It was bought by Sun Microsystems at one point but the cube was a beautiful box 961 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:59,000 It was this actually very aesthetically pleasing in a kind of 80s kind of way to look at server 962 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:05,000 And you literally just you could hook it up to your cable mode or your ADSL 963 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000 And it had everything built in 964 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,000 It had your own little internet, a place free to store files 965 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,000 You could mount folders and just it was basically a server 966 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000 But it also had an email server built in 967 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000 And a couple other 968 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000 You know a couple other really nice features 969 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000 And I don't know if they discontinued 970 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,000 Work on that or not but of course these days it would be a box that would have Wi-Fi built in 971 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Let's say we could really 972 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,000 We could really get that down to something quite cost effective 973 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000 And it probably shouldn't even have Wi-Fi 974 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000 Just stick it into your cable mode 975 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000 And it'll basically just appear 976 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000 I think we have enough open source 977 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,000 And it ran on Linux of course 978 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,000 I think we have enough open source technology to make that a pretty seamless operation 979 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,000 So what if we just instead of calling it an email service or just called it 980 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,000 You know the ultimate 981 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000 Well we'll have to work on the messaging and the marketing 982 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,000 But the whole point is you would have control over what is spam and what is not spam 983 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000 And even if something got caught in spam you could still go back 984 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000 Into your own 985 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000 Server and you could fix that now 986 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,000 Doesn't sound like something that consumers would want to get into 987 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000 What if it was just seamless what if 988 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,000 By the way Gmail a Google thought for you guys Jesus 989 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000 I would buy this in a heartbeat 990 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,000 So I could have unlimited storage all my stuff would be secure where I wanted 991 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000 It would be accessible all over the internet 992 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,000 Presumably of course because if your home connection goes down 993 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000 But that's gotten so much better over the years 994 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000 I think that'll probably survive 995 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,000 And you could have all the functionality you wanted 996 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,000 You could have webmail 997 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000 It could be completely secure 998 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000 You couldn't let anything through that you want 999 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000 You could of course could have set up your own RSS versions of email 1000 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,000 That may be a way to go that would be a really nice consumer device 1001 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,000 Just a small thing plugs in call the ultimate email manager or spam 1002 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000 Whatever you want to call it just so that people understand what it does 1003 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,000 And we could solve a lot of those problems just a thought just a thought 1004 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,000 Let's see a couple more things before I go today 1005 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,000 And I have another pod state music song especially for the Wednesday 1006 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:13,000 I had him this is CQ I just thought I could give you some quick audio feedback on Charles 346 1007 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000 Charles 1008 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,000 Roger Smalls left you a note about going to the park and not being able to chase 1009 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:24,000 Follow women or pick flowers because it's a public park 1010 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000 You know as you well know there are many 1011 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,000 Public schools in the UK 1012 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,000 Those are privately educating children 1013 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,000 And therefore that is parents are paying for that education 1014 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,000 So it's another use of the word public meaning private in fact 1015 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,000 And therefore having to be paid for independently 1016 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,000 Just thought I was an interesting thing 1017 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:53,000 The other thing you might want to check out is my website which is www.goct.com 1018 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,000 For slash I hate Adam Curry 1019 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000 Don't have a chance 1020 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,000 I wasted my time going to that URL 1021 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,000 Now you know what that's interesting you should have told me this before the before I went to court 1022 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,000 Because it is true in the UK a public school is what we in the US would call a private school 1023 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,000 Once again 1024 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,000 Someone sent me in the correction this one nation divided by a common language 1025 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,000 You say tomato I say tomato tomorrow 1026 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,000 Tomorrow by the way is the judgment 1027 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,000 I'm nervous I gotta tell you I'm really nervous about what's going to come out of all this stuff 1028 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000 I really well 1029 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:33,000 I'm quite sure the judge is going to rule in favor of violating the creative comments copyright 1030 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,000 Again it all boils down to what kind of message is the judge going to send 1031 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,000 You know the Netherlands seems to be very interesting country these days 1032 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,000 There seems to be quite a lack of regard for individual copyright and intellectual property 1033 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,000 Looking at their ASCAP VMI over there the Buma Stemera 1034 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,000 And the Taiscopi Reicht and all these guys who are just hoarding money 1035 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,000 Investing it 1036 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,000 Investing other people's money losing that money 1037 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,000 And then just polishing that away on the final year end results balance sheet 1038 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,000 Not good so I think a message has to be sent about the value of intellectual property 1039 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,000 Because it does work both ways if I steal a 99 cent song 1040 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,000 I can get a hundred and fifty thousand dollars lawsuit slapped against me 1041 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,000 If I what if I just post it some pictures from playboy magazine 1042 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,000 Yeah, I've been through all that crap before so tomorrow we'll hear about it 1043 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,000 Some other great news 1044 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,000 I've got a fantastic lead on a safety pilot Captain Dan 1045 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:33,000 Who actually flies out of echo golf tango fox trot fair oaks airfield 1046 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,000 Which is where Delta Shiro will be parked starting the end of this month 1047 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,000 And so we've had some email back and forth and really really hoping that that we can get that together 1048 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000 Be so cool to have a local person doing that 1049 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:50,000 But still if you have any any ideas about someone who could fly as safety pilot with me 1050 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,000 You know most then weekend sometimes in overnight 1051 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,000 It's a paid gig of course and the more experience the better obviously 1052 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,000 I just you know yes, I talked briefly about the Academy Awards 1053 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,000 I was so proud I forgot to tell you this the movie Capote 1054 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:11,000 Was directed by a guy named Bennett Miller and I know Bennett not very well 1055 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,000 I know his brother extremely well JB Miller 1056 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,000 Who used to work at MTV in the town department in fact he was the guy that the first person I saw in Patricia 1057 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:26,000 And I walked off the airplane at JFK when we came to the states and I came to work for MTV and we started our new life 1058 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,000 He was there to pick us up JB Miller just an incredibly smart guy 1059 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:38,000 He now has a company called Empire Entertainment and he produces huge shows for corporations with major major stars 1060 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,000 And I remember it was a couple years ago 1061 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,000 And that I was at JB's apartment and his brother was actually I don't know if he was living there at the time 1062 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:54,000 But he had an avid editing suite set up in the apartment and he was running around 1063 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,000 And then it's very very creative they're both these guys both you know 1064 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:03,000 They're on the edge of brilliant and loony and it was it was so incredibly intense 1065 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,000 And he was doing a movie at the time called 1066 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,000 Was it not rush 1067 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:19,000 Oh stupid of me it was about a tour on one of those London double deckers and downtown Manhattan 1068 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,000 And they were editing it and you know Drew Barrymore was in and out of the apartment 1069 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,000 It was just an incredibly weird scene 1070 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,000 But you know a very creative and artistic scene 1071 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,000 I just wanted to say I'm so incredibly proud of the work that Bennett has done 1072 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,000 And how far he's come in such a short amount of time and I haven't seen the movie yet 1073 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,000 But I do intend on seeing it it looks absolutely fantastic 1074 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,000 And so props to him I mean out of the gate 1075 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,000 So it's his second feature the first one that was a real full blown 1076 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:52,000 Why the distributed feature to be nominated for best director is is just fantastic 1077 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,000 I still don't have to see all that shit on television because I really don't care anymore about the award ceremonies 1078 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,000 But I got to say men props to you for sure 1079 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,000 So more props going out to the palm cast member pum pum pum 1080 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,000 The French podcaster who quit his day job to podcast full time 1081 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000 Well congratulations to him and his wife 1082 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,000 There baby girl arrived her name is night night eely 1083 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,000 There you go night eely 1084 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,000 And so we have another podcast listener on the scene 1085 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000 Now only what is it? 1086 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:28,000 99,999,999 to go and then we're at 100 million mark 1087 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,000 All right, winding it up for today 1088 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,000 This is a song that I've actually played before on a Wednesdays 1089 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:40,000 Kind of fitting for your Wednesday morning vibe as we roll the Charlie outs for another episode 1090 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,000 Free judgment day 1091 00:49:43,750 --> 00:53:37,000 [ Music ] 1092 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000 Now I evolve, 1093 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000 Now I evolve, 1094 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,000 Now I evolve, 1095 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,000 So I evolve, 1096 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000 Now I evolve, 1097 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,000 Now my life, 1098 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000 So I evolve, 1099 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,000 Now I evolve, 1100 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,000 Now I evolve, 1101 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,000 Now I evolve, 1102 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,000 Now I evolve, 1103 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,000 Now I evolve, 1104 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000 Now I evolve, 1105 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,000 Now I evolve, 1106 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,000 Now I evolve, 1107 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000 Now I evolve, 1108 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000 Now I evolve, 1109 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,000 Now I evolve, 1110 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,280 So hopefully tomorrow I'll have some information for you about the judgment of the theft 1111 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:18,560 of my pictures for publication in a commercial magazine, as well as the endangerment of my 1112 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:19,560 child. 1113 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:24,040 You'd hope that at least we'd get something somehow, don't you know what I mean? 1114 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,120 Adamaccurry.com for all your feedback and dailysourceco.com if you're looking for a place 1115 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,840 to find the latest shows. 1116 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,280 Remember I'll have a Victor Mike Charlie a video cast, a video music cast coming up 1117 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:42,760 today, sometime later, so your results may vary due to your time zone, and, well, 1118 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:47,240 oh, there's a message from PW Fenton saying, where's the damn show? 1119 00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:56,480 If I cast Lester, cast Lester, see you guys tomorrow, another pod show podcast, stick it 1120 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,040 in your ear.