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Hi, this is William Nelson.

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For those of you who are listening to this on serious satellite and stars, it's the stars cast everybody.

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This is the daily source code is just the start of our four hour block of time that we've got here.

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We're all not some awesome podcasts after this show.

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Gosh, man, it's so weird, you know, just not having people are calling the whole day.

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But this morning, I woke up and it was the first thing on my mind to have to say.

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So, hey, some, some other, oh, it's okay. So here's the real bummer news.

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The real bummer news about today's show.

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No audio feedback from comic strip blogger.

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He says he's not going to send me any for a while. That's a bummer, man.

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I love you. People are finally getting into your CSB seriously.

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And then another bummer, I just follow bummers today.

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The vacation isn't parallel, my friends.

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So there's a half-term vacation period, which really we didn't know about.

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This is the first full year that Christina's in school because we, actually, I guess we did know it last year.

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I told you my girl who fixed everything for me and has done many vacations for us.

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I think Patricia, the world record company boss.

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She's never really signed with any other record company.

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And she's going to give him a call and see if he can fix anything out.

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Because I can get a flight arranged down there.

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We can work that out.

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And even if we, if we had to go, economy class is not all that far.

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So it's not such a big deal.

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Now some good news.

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Although it doesn't work here in the UK yet.

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Ryan sent me an email.

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There is now a Google chat or Google.

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Is it, let me just see how to take my blackberry out of my pocket.

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Actually, it's Google talk, but it's the same thing as a Google chat.

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Cali's coming out.

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Cali's coming out to Cali.

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We're going to do something together.

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Oh, excuse me, I mean the Charlie episode 349.

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As far as I'm concerned, you could call it what my mother called my penis,

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which was the jingle bell.

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This is Mike signing off from Oakland, California.

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Hey, parents, please tell your kids what it's called, okay?

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This is ridiculous.

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This is really stupid.

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What's wrong with the actual words, huh?

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The actual name of the pieces of the anatomy, penis, vagina, breasts, nipple.

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Oh, in other words, you can hardly say on television in the US.

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Yesterday, one of my ego filters trapped a posting from a reporter

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The Orange County podcast is meetup.

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And, yeah, I was like, whoa, so I posted a comment on the web

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log and said, hey, I don't know where you're getting the information

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And it was very confusing.

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how the information stream got mangled onto the web,

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and I got some feedback about it today.

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Hey, Adam, Corey, scriptener here from the buddy group

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and the Orange County podcasters meetup group.

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And just wanted to say thank you for being understanding, patient,

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and responding to the Orange County Register reporter

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that contacted you regarding the claims they made

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that you were coming here, even though you're in the UK,

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to the United States meeting.

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It's, we learned a valuable lesson tonight.

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What we learned was that no matter what you say about

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that are great that are happening in the world,

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the only thing they hear is Pod Show.

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Adam, Corey, big hair, blonde, flowing locks.

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So anyhow, thanks for being cool.

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And of course, you're always welcome at the Orange County podcasters

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meetup group if you're ever in the area.

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Make sure you bring Mark, your Shemotor Nemkov down to

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because he's a cool dude, and we'd like to see him here.

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He's a dead man.

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Keep up the good work.

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We'll talk to you later.

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He's a dick.

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I got to bring Mark, your Shemotor Nemkov.

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He's a guy who's trying to set up Pod Show LA.

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He's got like some, you know, he has some cockamamey plan

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about setting up some kind of production thing

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in Los Angeles.

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He's got a shack on Venice Beach and, you know,

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in a laptop.

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And he's playing Mr. Big Shot.

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He's got a three series BMW.

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But no problem buddy about the rumor mill.

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That's alright.

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I'm happy to help.

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I just didn't want people to think I was a dick

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for not showing up.

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That's all.

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And believe me, that happens a lot.

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Aloha.

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If you remember, I left you a comment.

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First comment.

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Show it in fact.

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On episode 348 of the Charlie.

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And after my friends hearing it,

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they were a bit surprised.

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And some of them, one of them,

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instead of congratulating me on, you know,

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going forward and being individual,

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one of the rest of it independent.

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I could say was, I can't believe you said

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that's hard at the end.

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Which was a bit deflating.

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I thought, what can you do?

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Anyway, the news story.

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I submitted it on Newsvine.

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And it's also mean first of us on another day

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and delicious.

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And it's nice and healthy.

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So, it's great.

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Timberd.org is great.

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And also, I suggest everyone goes on

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www.tibberd.org.

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And, you know, come on.

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Get to the point dude.

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Which is that there's a link.

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To the point.

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Anyway.

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I wasn't actually going to be talking about my post.

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I was going to be talking about them.

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A guy a few comments after mine.

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Talked about something about being superior.

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And, you know, knowing how to podcast,

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because he's a podcaster.

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And, as a regular listen,

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also to Twitter, this week in tech,

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That podcast,

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and podcast listeners.

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There's always a one-to-one ratio.

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Why is it the mainstream,

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Why is it the mainstream audience listening to podcasts?

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Well, before you go on,

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let me say, have you looked at iTunes recently?

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Have you seen what's being promoted?

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Have you looked at Yahoo?

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Seeing what's being promoted?

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Please.

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That's pretty obvious.

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You know, we're being shoved down.

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But this has been happening for a long, long time.

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So, that's one of the reasons.

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I, as someone who likes to introduce people

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to new things, such as video gaming,

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and, you know, blogging,

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and read all web 2.0 services,

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like flicker, and rapper,

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and or blogger, and so on and so forth.

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I like to introduce people to podcasts,

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as well.

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What I found is that podcasting

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is kind of like a evolution from blogging.

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Therefore, for people for some people

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to be able to understand what podcasting is,

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they need to be able to understand what blogging is.

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And I find that I need to explain to them

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what blogging is before I can explain

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to them what podcasting is.

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that's why,

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because of all the RSS fees and XML fees,

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that there's usually one to one ratio

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of podcasts and podcasts.

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This is, obviously, very simple,

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but, to the mainstream audience,

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it just looks too difficult to be able to access.

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And that's why I'm about to say,

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and by the time you've played this,

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you probably know what results

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to your core case.

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And that's what I have of course.

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What results your core case is,

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and hope is a good one.

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Oh, yes, one more thing.

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And I was just thinking,

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because podcasts are so addictive,

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and so great.

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I was just thinking that,

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maybe once people listen to podcasts,

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I know for myself,

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this definitely is my case.

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In my case.

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Well, it's a lifting list in two podcasts.

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They'll start podcasting themselves,

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which is why there is a one to one ratio.

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But anyway, it is very complicated,

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especially for people that are slightly less literate

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in a computer-wise.

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So that's why I have to say,

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add a goodbye.

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Not to tell this side, but goodbye.

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Okay, not to talk.

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All right.

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To the people, chap.

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Okay.

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I don't think it's a one to one ratio.

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That makes no sense.

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There's plenty of reports that say,

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there's millions of listeners,

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and we have our own reports.

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I think that there's definitely

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between 10 and 15 million listeners out there,

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a worldwide mind,

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which is a very, very small percentage.

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So two things I think that you're doing the right thing,

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if you're enjoying it,

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then you want to turn other people on to it.

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The easiest way is probably just send them a link and say,

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click on the frickin' link and listen.

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Now, what you send them is of great importance.

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This is another thing.

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You know, people,

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this is the sending thing that happened with weblogs.

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Now, weblogs for years were seen as,

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oh, well, that's just someone writing about their cats

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or sitting in their pajamas, kids.

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You've heard all the bullshit about it.

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So it'll take a while.

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It may even take as much as four more years.

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Maybe three years.

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I've been out for almost two years,

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so I always go in five of your cycles.

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So it could easily take three more years

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before it really, really is widely known what podcasts are.

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So I definitely want to put some of the burden

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on the promotional activities there on the listeners.

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And when you get your pod show plus,

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it'll be much easier.

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Much easier to just enjoy pod casting.

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Whether you want to subscribe or not,

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and we make that very easy as well.

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So look for that to come out.

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I think yesterday,

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they showed up just about everything.

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I've been following along.

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I'm now running everything on the podcast delivery network.

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And I'm subscribed through everything on my pod show plus.

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And there's a pretty cool player.

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It's really nice.

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So you can, you can,

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you can compile your own playlist of your favorite podcast.

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So let's just call those a subscription.

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But in the player, you pop open the player.

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And it's, it's its own window.

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And you can select.

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You can really do drill down and move back and forth

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between what you're subscribed to.

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So you can say, alright,

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I have a list of stuff that I,

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that I want to listen to in the morning.

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If there's new podcasts,

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I pop up the player,

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select the playlist that I want to hear.

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Immediately it shows you all the new episodes.

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Audio, video, AVI,

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Windows, media,

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doesn't matter what it is at all plays.

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It's very cool.

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And I think that will probably make a big difference.

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Also, it does show notes.

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And oh, this is very cool.

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It does enhance podcasts.

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So it understands how to play those and give you the pictures

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and the links that are associated with it.

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So yeah, you're going to look out.

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They're coming very, very soon.

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Lots of people sent me the link to spamcube.com.

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Talking about yesterday's,

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or the ongoing talk about the email tax.

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That AOL amongst others are threatening,

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or I guess they're already planning to put into place.

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And I said, wouldn't it be great if you had a device

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that you just jacked into your modem

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and it kind of took care of everything?

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So spamcube.com, there you go.

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The world's first anti-spam gadget for your home.

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All you do is, let me see,

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let me see if they have the tell you how it does it.

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Yeah, say hi to spamcube.

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Just plug this plug in this powerful little tool

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and you'll completely protect up to four computers

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in your home from spam.

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Typical marketing.

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Makes no sense to technical people.

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Our proprietary built-in anti-spam technology

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stops spam, so there's no subscription fee

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and it's easy to install.

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Also works with all operating systems

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and virtually every email program.

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So I guess what these guys do is they have a service

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where your email, you'll see your DSL was down.

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And this is how email was meant to work by the way.

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Let's say your server at home is down.

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You won't lose your email.

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It'll just be stored on their service.

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And when your connection comes back up,

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the email will be delivered.

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And you just get it from your spamcube.

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And you can then determine what is spam and what is not spam.

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But of course, they can communicate with all the list, et cetera.

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But it really gives you a lot more control.

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Does it say, what is it cost?

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150 bucks, man.

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It should be offering some sex favors for 150 bucks.

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But the idea is right.

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We're getting very close to some consumer-based solutions on that.

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Hi Adam.

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This is Christian from Sweden,

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without the podcast as yet.

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I just think that one way to solve this thing

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with registration mail getting lost

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would be to require people to do things

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the other way around.

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Instead of sending registration messages to people,

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you would have an email

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that they send to you and have things on your mail service

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that have those emails trigger their registration.

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Thank you and goodbye.

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Right.

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Yes.

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I appreciate the thought, but that of course is not going to work.

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The whole point of using email is really for a confirmation

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that you are the person who you say you are,

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or at least you are the email address

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who says they are the email address.

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It's so easy to spoof things the other way around.

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Basically, I could go register you,

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I could look up the code,

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and then I would email the code coming from someone else's email address.

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That's pretty simple to spoof,

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and then you still have to build all kinds of stuff

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on the other end to stop the spoofing.

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It's not that trivial.

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It's just, and people are really misunderstanding

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that this is about spam.

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It's not about spam.

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It's about guaranteeing delivery of messages

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to you from outsiders,

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whether you want it or not.

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Now, of course,

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I would presume that with the AOL email tax,

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if you receive something that has guaranteed delivery

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and you say I don't want to receive this anymore,

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then you won't receive it anymore.

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And presumably those folks won't be

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charged for the privilege of not being delivered.

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But in essence, it's just wrong.

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It's just wrong.

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Strong mail actually is the company

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that we're talking to now about helping pod show,

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and it's not because I agree with what's happening.

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It's just because we have to get moving.

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We have to fix this problem now,

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and we can't wait,

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because we can't even open up sales

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on the pod sick music network

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without these registrations.

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Hey, everybody, raise your right hand for a second.

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Go from left to right, say goodbye.

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The satellite listeners, Windows closed.

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It's just us now.

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I mean, that would be just us.

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It would be me and you and PW Fenton.

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Okay, it's time to send an audio comment to the boss.

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Now I know that the boss doesn't really like

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being criticized by the hired help,

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but you should also know that if you say anything bad about me,

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nobody on serious will ever hear it.

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But here's the thing.

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You are an American.

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You are not a Brit.

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I love Brits.

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Don't get me wrong.

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But Brits are odd people

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who drop syllables from somewhere

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it's like turning military into military.

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And then they add syllables to other words,

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like turning aluminum into aluminium.

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They don't need letters or any actual syllables.

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They just say a syllable.

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This is a fact.

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And more importantly,

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it is not a controversy.

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I love seeing that word.

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As Brits has told you over and over,

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it's a...

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That's right.

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Controversy.

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Hey.

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Tell all your listeners that there are two new digital

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flotsome episodes in the shoot.

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First one may be a little weird and different,

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but the second one,

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which should be out a few days later,

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will be more likely shows that they are used to.

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Who?

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Sorry.

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Tailwind.

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Oh, Peter.

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You fired.

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You're in so much trouble now, man.

525
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000
I can just hear all the Brits going.

526
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,000
What?

527
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Feel free to send in your audio comments for Peter.

528
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Make it creative.

529
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Do some work on it,

530
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000
so we can start a real controversy around this.

531
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000
By the way,

532
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000
aluminium is actually the correct...

533
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000
It's not just the pronunciation.

534
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,000
It is the correct word for the element.

535
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,000
Is that an element?

536
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Well, for that metal.

537
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000
Aluminium, not aluminum.

538
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,000
I believe aluminum is absolutely incorrect.

539
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000
I could be wrong.

540
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,000
Unless it's some kind of derivative of aluminium,

541
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,000
then we're just talking about two separate things.

542
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
The most talking about ayoda,

543
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000
the independent online distribution alliance.

544
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000
This is an organization I'm learning more about.

545
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,000
They essentially distribute music online.

546
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000
That would be sales.

547
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000
And they sit in between record companies,

548
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,000
mainly independent record companies.

549
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,000
I believe some artists who have their own record companies.

550
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,000
And services like Napster or iTunes, etc.

551
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,000
We've been talking about their tower records,

552
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,000
alliance that they've kind of announced.

553
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000
I think the news got out a little bit before they were ready

554
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000
to really talk about it.

555
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,000
Towerpod.com.

556
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000
There's not much there right now.

557
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,000
So the idea there is they're going to take their catalog,

558
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000
which is six or seven thousand songs.

559
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000
And any podcast that signs up with them

560
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000
will be able to play the songs.

561
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,000
Royalty free.

562
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000
I presume I haven't seen a license yet.

563
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000
So I'm not sure if there's any other caveats about

564
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,000
playing songs in their entirety or talking over intros or anything like that.

565
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000
And they will be they have a financial model,

566
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000
which is advertising.

567
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000
So advertising.

568
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000
And this is where I think it kind of breaks down.

569
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,000
Advertising will be split up between the record company,

570
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,000
who of course splits with the artist,

571
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000
with ayoda and with tower records.

572
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000
And then obviously any affiliate, if they're going to do an affiliate program.

573
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000
So it seems like it's going to get really, really thin down.

574
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,000
And of course transaction fees,

575
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000
with maybe tower stake and care of that.

576
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,000
So it seems like it's going to get really thin.

577
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Now Tim Mitchell,

578
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000
who I heard talking at the artist roundtable at podcast hotel

579
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000
and Seattle recently,

580
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000
we discussed that on the Charlie.

581
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000
He promised me an audio comment.

582
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000
And he sent in 15 minutes worth of audio comment.

583
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
A lot of background about himself,

584
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000
and about ayoda, which is very helpful.

585
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000
But very little to nothing about what they're actually going to be coming out with.

586
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,000
So I didn't really feel like it was appropriate to roll anything out.

587
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,000
But I will post his 15 minute comments.

588
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000
So you can have a listen to it.

589
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
But he didn't really,

590
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,000
and I don't think he can probably didn't really explain anything about

591
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000
about what's coming up with tower records.

592
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,000
So hopefully when he can, he'll let us on the Charlie here.

593
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000
No, because obviously I'm excited about anything independent happening.

594
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,000
I'm also very curious to see how this model's going to work out

595
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
because it's a whole different way of monetizing.

596
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000
And let me just say one thing.

597
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000
As I start to abstract myself a little bit above all that.

598
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,000
Now if you have a podcast, right?

599
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,000
And the podcast consists of audio feedback,

600
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000
songs from independent musicians,

601
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,000
and anything that other people create that you put on your podcast.

602
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Just on the pure spec of it,

603
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000
you see this, you know, there's two files.

604
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,000
One could be a file from Matthew Ebel,

605
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,000
and one could be a file from comic strip blogger.

606
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Both of them, creative works of art.

607
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Both of them, MP3 files.

608
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000
No difference.

609
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000
Inter exchangeable.

610
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
We'll play on the same devices.

611
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,000
But for some reason, and this is where I think we have to start adjusting

612
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,000
our thinking.

613
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,000
For some reason, more value is attached to the song.

614
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000
And I think that this is artificial.

615
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
It's an artificial value, which I have no problem with,

616
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,000
because I like to buy my music.

617
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
And I like to support artists.

618
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,000
And it's, you know, people who, you know,

619
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
who make music full time.

620
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000
It's very admirable.

621
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000
And, you know, I wish everybody could,

622
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,000
I really wish everybody could make money with whatever the hell they're doing.

623
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000
But there is no difference.

624
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000
And then again, I don't think there's any difference with a podcast file.

625
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:22,000
In fact, I put out more MP3 files than any pod-safe music artist

626
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
that I know.

627
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,000
I put out on a five a week, almost, usually five a week.

628
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,000
There, gosh, there's sometimes 10 times as large as other files.

629
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Yet, they are deemed worthless on a transaction basis.

630
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Although Ricky Jervais, of course, is trying to show that that's not entirely true.

631
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
And even he's getting ripped off and put on a bit torrent.

632
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,000
And on some of the peer-to-peer networks.

633
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,000
So if you really just extract yourself a little bit,

634
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000
you know, I think we have to be realistic about, you know,

635
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000
about trying to shoehorn old models into,

636
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000
into the digital world that we live in.

637
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Now, I think that everyone has a right to monetize.

638
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000
But that doesn't mean that it's a God-given right

639
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,000
and that that value is automatic in my mind.

640
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,000
So my way of monetizing is through advertising.

641
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Most musicians weigh of monetizing is either through sales,

642
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,000
or I think which is probably even bigger through merchandising

643
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,000
and through concerts and gigs.

644
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,000
And people who send feedback into the daily source code,

645
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,000
well, you know, I don't think many people are looking to make any money.

646
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,000
You know, some people really do a lot of work,

647
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,000
and some people do less work.

648
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
But take Jeff Smith, as an example,

649
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,000
is not a published musician.

650
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,000
Actually, I'm sorry.

651
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,000
Let me take that back.

652
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,000
He doesn't have an album out,

653
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000
but he has plenty of songs on the pot-save music network.

654
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,000
But I know him, not through his pot-save music songs.

655
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000
I know him through the stuff that he sent into the show,

656
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000
you know, stuff like...

657
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,000
I'll stop it now because you get excited.

658
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000
Don't have anything from Roger today either.

659
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,000
So, you know, I want to help him too.

660
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000
And when people say, hey, you know, who made those great jingles?

661
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Where do I get the ringtone?

662
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
I'll pass them right on to Jeff.

663
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000
You know, so that's kind of how we work stuff out.

664
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000
But I think we just have to be very careful about

665
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,000
carrying over a lot of these old models.

666
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000
What else was I going to say about that?

667
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Oh, yeah, one more time about the Dutch Azkab BMI,

668
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,000
the Buma STEM era.

669
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
So I was looking at the articles again.

670
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,000
You know, these are the guys that collect the money

671
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000
from everybody and everything that could ever play

672
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000
a radio or a CD player or anything in their place of business.

673
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,000
And they're supposed to distribute that to the artists.

674
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,000
And what they've done consistently is they've invested that money.

675
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,000
And they usually have a two to three-year delay

676
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
before they start paying out funds, of course,

677
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000
it's on a rolling.

678
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000
So if you start today as an artist

679
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,000
and those public performance rights organizations

680
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,000
are collecting money for you,

681
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000
they don't start to give you money until two or three years.

682
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000
But then, of course, it continues after that

683
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000
if you continue to put out more music.

684
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
But in that interim period, they invest your money.

685
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,000
They've invested in almost 300 different

686
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,000
investments.

687
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,000
They don't list what they are in their annual report.

688
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,000
They had 330 million euros invested

689
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,000
and lost 46 million.

690
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,000
46 million of other people's money of artists money.

691
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000
And I want to make mention of this

692
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,000
because what I don't think people realize is that

693
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,000
this is, yeah, sure, it's Dutch artists money too.

694
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000
But this, you know, we're just what's going to happen.

695
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,000
This is going to be huge lawsuits, huge organizations

696
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000
and from the US, you know, all the big companies

697
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
they're going to come in and they're going to kick these guys

698
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,000
ass for doing that stuff.

699
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,000
It's just unbelievable.

700
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,000
No regard for intellectual property right there.

701
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,000
I wanted to read you this quote again

702
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000
as we talk about the tiered internet.

703
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000
I'm not going to make it too long today.

704
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
I just have a couple more things I want to play.

705
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,000
This was from the CEO of SBC, who of course,

706
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000
purchased AT&T.

707
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000
I don't know.

708
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000
I just got a banner ad here.

709
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000
An SAP on business business week.

710
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Okay.

711
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Let me just find this.

712
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
What's his name?

713
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000
His name is Ed Something.

714
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Of course, I probably,

715
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,000
here we go.

716
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000
November 7th interview with Business Week online,

717
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000
AT&T CEO Edward Whitaker,

718
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Jr. declared,

719
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,000
quote,

720
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,000
what Google,

721
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Vonage,

722
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,000
and others would like to do is to use my pipes free,

723
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000
but I ain't going to let him do that.

724
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Whitaker and AT&T argue that they need flexibility

725
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,000
to exact a toll from web services that hog bandwidth.

726
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
As broadband use grows,

727
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,000
the bells and cable companies say that intensive users

728
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,000
aren't paying their fair share.

729
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000
File shares swapping user can movies account for 60%

730
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000
of North American residential broadband use estimates

731
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,000
David Caputo CEO of Sandvine in Waterloo, Ontario,

732
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000
which sells technology to manage network traffic.

733
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
Yet over eaters get preferential treatment

734
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
over weaker ones.

735
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,000
So the main thing here is that this guy,

736
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Edward Whitaker, Jr. said,

737
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
Google, Vonage, and others.

738
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000
And I'm really looking at Google more than Vonage.

739
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,000
Vonage is voice over IP.

740
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000
That's a whole different thing about who's packets

741
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
to get delivered and all the shit that's all.

742
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,000
It's frightening is really what it is.

743
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Got some feedback on it.

744
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Aloha, Adam,

745
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
this is the digital slot curve brando

746
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000
from the digital slot pod podcast at digitalslob.com.

747
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000
I've been listening intently lately

748
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,000
to the DSC or the Charlie or the Cha Cha

749
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
or the Chimachanga lately,

750
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000
especially episodes in the upper 340s,

751
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
about the so-called tiered internet.

752
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000
I'm glad you're shedding light on this complex,

753
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,000
but important topic.

754
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,000
I'm writing about it this week in my syndicated humor column.

755
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000
I just wanted to bounce this metaphor off you and you're

756
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000
maybe your listeners and the hopes of boiling it all down

757
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000
into a nice little edible bond mall.

758
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,000
You can tell me how on the market might be.

759
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,000
As it stands right now,

760
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000
the birthday party photos I forwarded to my sister

761
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,000
bounce around in the same sandbox at amazon.com

762
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
uses to ship us whatever Oprah tells us to read,

763
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000
but cable companies want a higher profile piece of the action.

764
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
It seems to me even though they're basically just a utility.

765
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,000
It's too bad because rich people can already

766
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,000
buy huge TVs, expensive clothes and nonstop flights

767
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000
to Europe and seats that were flying all the way back.

768
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
But even then there are limits.

769
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000
I mean, even they can't write a check,

770
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
so big it would allow them to flush a pot roast

771
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000
down the toilet.

772
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,000
A rising digital age tide should raise all ships in my opinion.

773
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
And that means raising the bar not only for excellence,

774
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000
but for mediocrity as well.

775
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000
Let me give you an example.

776
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000
Weeks ago I created a song called Digital Slop Pod Fever

777
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000
and uploaded it to the Pod Safe Music Network.

778
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000
Thanks to royalty-free music loops,

779
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,000
drag and drop functionality in my wife's voice.

780
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000
She owed me a favor for making me sit through a mat

781
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000
and they have chicken little.

782
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000
Anyway, I made a song.

783
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,000
It was rancid and a bismal by every measure,

784
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,000
but a song anyway.

785
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000
It's still free for the taking on the PMN.

786
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,000
I guess a little bit like the way a tire fire would be free

787
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000
for the taking for anyone who wanted to cart it away.

788
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000
But even as bad as it is,

789
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000
if I took it back in time,

790
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000
I'm pretty sure I could get a record deal

791
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000
and airtime on MTV between Mickey

792
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,000
by Tony Bazel and I ran by Flocke Seagulls.

793
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000
It even ended up, as it turns out,

794
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000
as an intro to music on the mic,

795
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Marka Barshow out of Amsterdam a while back.

796
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,000
The point, however,

797
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,000
is that the song was made and is available,

798
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,000
thanks in part to the universally available web

799
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000
that's fast enough and cheap enough to move it around.

800
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,000
And to an ego big enough to insist I wasted an entire day

801
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,000
making it.

802
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000
But if I'm ever to take my musical career to the next level

803
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,000
from awful 80s,

804
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,000
one hit wonder to awful 21st century Mozart,

805
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000
you can bet I would need a smarter application

806
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000
bigger memory and a faster internet

807
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000
and it's got to be roughly the same price

808
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,000
for else it won't happen.

809
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Any more investment on the front end would require

810
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000
some initial talent,

811
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000
not to mention a divorce.

812
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000
I suspect the next would be Google

813
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,000
or it would be Amazon.com would be in a similar predicament.

814
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,000
But given the same tools,

815
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,000
imagine what someone with true abilities

816
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,000
would be able to accomplish.

817
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000
So, let's not organize the web

818
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000
like the Titanic,

819
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,000
stifling the best and brightest way back in the series.

820
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,000
Let's push all our pipe dreams

821
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
through the same pipe.

822
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,000
That's the bond model there.

823
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Okay, sure.

824
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,000
Wondering.

825
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Mahalo Adam and let me know

826
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,000
when I can join the PD and party

827
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
because I know there's a line forming

828
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000
that's longer than the one to get into the Don

829
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
who showed down at the Waikiki Beach Comer.

830
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000
Just a bit of feedback from your friendly

831
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000
neighborhood digital slob.

832
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Aloha.

833
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,000
Mahalo Aloha.

834
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Okay.

835
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,000
All right.

836
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000
So, I have a whole bunch of different comments

837
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000
about that which I'm going to save until tomorrow

838
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000
at towards the end of the show.

839
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000
We'll do a thank God it's Friday edition.

840
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Hopefully, a celebratory edition.

841
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
That would be very cool.

842
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Of course, I'll be posting something

843
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
on curry.com later today

844
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000
if I have anything to report

845
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000
and I surely hope I do

846
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000
sometimes as I stated before,

847
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,000
you know, the courts will just say,

848
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
oh, you know, we actually put the judgment

849
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000
and envelope sent it off.

850
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,000
You'll have it by Monday.

851
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,000
It's happened to me before.

852
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Believe me.

853
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
One final piece of information

854
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000
which pertains to podcasters.

855
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,000
This comes from duck from the rock cast

856
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000
Italia from Italy.

857
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,000
Of course.

858
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000
Adam, you were right.

859
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,000
It's dangerous to put our podcasters

860
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,000
in the hands of others.

861
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000
I'm not quite sure what that was about.

862
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,000
Oh, I see.

863
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Right now feed burner is unreachable

864
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,000
from the most important ADSL provider in Italy.

865
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000
And it's been like this since Saturday.

866
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000
It looks like other parts of Europe are affected too.

867
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000
Feed burner is aware of the problem,

868
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,000
but can't do much.

869
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,000
And here's what they said.

870
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,000
And I'll quote from the email.

871
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
We've received a report from our hosting provider

872
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000
stating that there is a routing

873
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,000
slash peering problem

874
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000
between global crossing and sea bone.

875
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Unfortunately, this problem is outside

876
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
of the control of both feed burner

877
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000
and the providers that feed burner is connected to.

878
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,000
There's currently no estimated time of arrival on

879
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000
when this problem will be resolved.

880
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000
We will continue to communicate with our providers

881
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000
and pass on any additional information

882
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000
as it becomes available.

883
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000
So that's a huge problem.

884
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000
That can happen to any ISP.

885
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,000
So the way it works.

886
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000
And this is exactly what could happen

887
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,000
with teared internet.

888
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Remember we talked about peering the other day.

889
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
So global crossing and sea bone,

890
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,000
both are backbone providers.

891
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,000
And the agreements that these huge backbone providers

892
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,000
like AT&T have is,

893
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000
look, you hand off X amount of traffic,

894
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000
all hand off X amount of traffic to you.

895
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000
And since it's kind of the same,

896
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000
we call it a wash,

897
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000
no money changes hands,

898
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000
and they call that peering.

899
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,000
Which comes from the telco world in general,

900
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000
where there's a settlement at the end of the month.

901
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000
You know, if I make a call from you through

902
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
two here in the UK to your phone,

903
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000
which is through AT&T in the States.

904
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,000
At the end of the month,

905
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000
there's a settlement in the two companies.

906
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,000
You know, say, okay,

907
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000
you know, I sent these calls to you.

908
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,000
That'll be you know,

909
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,000
$3 million.

910
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,000
And they say, okay,

911
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,000
well, we had $2.7 million.

912
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000
And so they figure all of that stuff out.

913
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000
This huge systems that calculate that.

914
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
But on internet traffic,

915
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000
it's almost impossible to count it.

916
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000
So the or at least down to,

917
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,000
you know, some particular levels.

918
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000
That's what IPv6 is supposed to solve.

919
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Look, I'm not a technologist in that, in that regard.

920
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,000
But here it is.

921
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000
So there's, I think I've looked for it.

922
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
Any border gateway protocol

923
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
geeks out there who want to help us out with

924
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
what the dispute is between global crossing

925
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000
and seabone.

926
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Please let me know.

927
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,000
It sounds like there's a dispute probably saying,

928
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000
hey, you know, we're not getting off traffic from you.

929
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000
So we're breaking our peering agreement.

930
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,000
It could be something like that.

931
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000
And this is exactly what could happen

932
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
with a multi-tiered internet.

933
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,000
So now a large part of Europe,

934
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000
Italy is a pretty large part.

935
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Cannot reach feed burner and other parts of the world

936
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000
may be affected as well.

937
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000
In fact, while I'm here right now,

938
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,000
why don't I just check to see if I can reach them.

939
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Feed burner dot com.

940
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,000
And yeah, no problem.

941
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000
No problem from the UK on easy net.

942
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000
So that works.

943
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000
At the end of the day, my friends,

944
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:29,000
where there comes to lawsuits, arguments,

945
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,000
broken peering agreements, theft,

946
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000
endangerment,

947
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
when all of a sudden done

948
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,000
and when it all comes down to it,

949
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,000
there's only one type of person

950
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000
that wins consistently.

951
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000
There are rats.

952
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,000
There are bats.

953
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,000
There are sting,

954
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,000
community cats.

955
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000
But the worst thing in the world

956
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,000
is a lawyer.

957
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,000
There are easels.

958
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000
There are scones.

959
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000
There are bandits.

960
00:42:55,000 --> 00:44:58,000
[ Music ]

961
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,000
But the worst thing in the world is a lawyer

962
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,000
With their coops and their coitities

963
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,000
Their fees and their contingency

964
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,000
Yes, the worst thing in the world

965
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Is a lawyer

966
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Yes, the worst thing in the world

967
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,000
Is a lawyer

968
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Steve Newman and friends

969
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,000
Lullaby for lawyers

970
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Actually some of my best friends are lawyers

971
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Everybody that said I tried to keep it around 40 minutes

972
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000
Didn't quite make it, we'll do more tomorrow

973
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,000
And I'll let you know everything went with the lawsuit

974
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
Adamaccurry.com for your feedback

975
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
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976
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,000
And the podcast speed

977
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
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978
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,000
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979
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,000
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980
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,000
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