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What do you mean? He couldn't. All right. Let's take you live to the 33 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:33,360 podfather himself. Here's Adam Curry with decision 2006. Our green scene. Thank you 34 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,000 very much man. I came in through promos.podshow.com. Appreciate it. Perfect. 35 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,960 That's staging for the show today. Well, for those of you who've been following 36 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,160 the court case yesterday, the judgment was handed down by the court in the Netherlands 37 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,880 by the judge. Remember, it's a professional judge system. So not a jury of peers, 38 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:56,760 but a judge who was clearly not as well informed and had not gone into depth into 39 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,960 the material as I had hoped. And we're going to talk about that today. In fact, I just 40 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,280 got off the honker with Pete up and asked him to keep the satellite window open longer 41 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:12,040 today. So the folks on serious satellite radio can hear this as well. On that point, 42 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,760 for the serious folks today, we have Pacific Coast Hellway, East Radio, Don, and Drew, 43 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,480 also, which at all, rather for an NCC Chapman in this four hour block of time on serious 44 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:27,880 stars. Okay. So if you're new to the podcast, let me just run through the issue very briefly. 45 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:34,120 I know I have to reiterate this stuff once in a while, or more than once in a while. A Dutch 46 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,720 tabloid published pictures that were taken from my flicker account licensed under the creative 47 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:46,360 Commons attribution non-commercial share like and they publish those. Clearly a violation of copyright 48 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,800 and at the same time they published information about my daughter's school and the path that she 49 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:57,000 takes to school and how she gets to and from school, which I felt was and my daughter as well. 50 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:04,040 And most parents who have emailed me agree that that is definitely endangerment of a child. 51 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,920 So here's the verdict as it came down. And I'm paraphrasing. It's available in Dutch online in 52 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:18,280 many different places. Essentially the endangerment of Christina was completely dismissed and the 53 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:23,240 reasoning and I'm also paraphrasing. The reasoning according to the judges, you're in the public eye, 54 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:31,560 so you can expect that. On the what I still consider and what is basically the truth, 55 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:37,160 the theft of my property, which they used for commercial purposes in their magazine, 56 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:45,000 the judge ruled us following. Don't do that anymore. And if you do, you will be 57 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:53,080 find 1,000 euros, which is about $1,200, for each time you do use copyrighted work from Mr. Curry. 58 00:09:54,040 --> 00:10:00,040 So I presume that that can be used in future case law against anyone who has protected their work 59 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,760 on the internet through the creative Commons license. So while it is a win for creative Commons 60 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:10,440 because it did hold up in court. And of course, their argument was, well, you know, it said this picture 61 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:17,240 was public and so we were confused. The judge says, well, you know, your professional organization, 62 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:24,760 you should know better. When I find very, so obviously the endangerment of Christina is unforgivable, 63 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:35,720 I feel. And the fact that the judge did not take my work, my property into protection 64 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:45,000 for future protection, I should say, by somehow sanctioning or penalizing the publisher or the magazine, 65 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,680 I think it's a bit of a loss. Now, I wasn't looking for money. Of course, all court cases, 66 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,560 at the end of the day usually civil cases revolver on money and that's kind of how you determine 67 00:10:55,560 --> 00:11:00,600 whether you win a law. So the fact that I got no damages can be seen as a loss. 68 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:07,400 Now, here's my view on this. And I obviously have quite a number of things to say. 69 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:14,680 First of all, I believe the judge did a great disservice to the court, to herself and to the country 70 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:23,400 of the Netherlands. So this starts by a contradiction. How can you say that you have no protection 71 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:29,720 over your well-being or the well-being of your family because you are famous, because you have been 72 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:37,000 featured in magazines, television and other mainstream media? But at the same time, how can you say 73 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:44,600 that that is not valuable? These magazines clearly profit from highlighting celebrities, 74 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:52,040 from showing celebrities, from taking pictures, telling stories. It really takes the court and 75 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:58,440 its opinions back to the medieval times of court gestures. You know, court gestures were funny and 76 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:05,560 great and they got all kinds of cool things from the king. But they would chop us head off if they 77 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,600 felt like it. So I feel that there is a huge contradiction in what the judge is saying. 78 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:18,600 Now, a disservice to our country comes into play. You know, I'm outside of the Netherlands a lot 79 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,640 and whether it's in even as close as the United Kingdom but certainly in the United States and most 80 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,840 other countries in the world when they talk about the Netherlands and it used to bother me because I 81 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:34,040 know that the people of the Netherlands are not like this, but you know, on an individual basis. 82 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:41,320 But collectively, they're pretty quiet and don't really stand up for a lot or for themselves 83 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:47,080 very often. They talk about it a lot privately. But the Netherlands is primarily 84 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,320 note. If you say to anyone, hey, you know, how about Holland? What do they say? Oh, that's where you 85 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:56,280 can, that's where drugs are legal and prostitution is legal. Yeah, yeah, that's that's great. 86 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,800 Well, now you can add disrespect for art and creativity to that mix. And I believe that 87 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:08,360 this judgment, just looking from the comments that are public on my weblog and the email that I've 88 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:14,600 received, and this is coming from all over the world, people are saying, wow, this is not really 89 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,720 good for creative comments. This is not really good for protecting our content. Whereas the courts are 90 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:25,720 extremely good at protecting content of mainstream media and scaring people into submission. And 91 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:31,080 I should clarify something. You know, these lawsuits that you hear about these huge, you know, 92 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:37,960 $150,000 lawsuits, they really ever go to trial because here's how it works. A big company, 93 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:43,800 if you take their pictures and publish them, if you breach their copyright, if you, if you download 94 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:49,400 an MP3 file on copy it illegally and distribute it, what that usually happens is you get a call. 95 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,960 Now, the call is not from the judge. The call is from a collection agency, which works for the 96 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:59,720 big mainstream media companies. And they will scare you, scare you into eventually paying a fine, 97 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:06,840 which I think people wind up usually paying between $5 and $15,000 just to get the court case off 98 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,880 their back. So it's a settlement, but they scare people into it. Now, I don't have enough money to 99 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:19,400 scare any, any large publisher or, or, or, or, or magazine into submission. So I took the 100 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,640 recourse that I had and that recourse was through the courts. And well, there you have it. 101 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:30,680 If you take all these things into effect, it's no wonder. And this is the fact that people are 102 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:36,200 emigrating, are leaving the Netherlands in the highest numbers ever. Every year, there are more people 103 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:48,120 fleeing the country because of issues like this. Now, let's talk about talk versus action. 104 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:55,960 I'm a guy that comes from a long history of doers and in my view patriots. My family has 105 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:04,120 extremely extensive history of government work, public service, work at universities, education. 106 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,840 In fact, we, we have a word for it in our family. We call it the need road syndrome, 107 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,440 which is, uh, you have to be useful. You have to do something for your country. 108 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:19,480 You know, my parents grew up listening to John F. Kennedy say, ask not what your country can do, 109 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:24,520 ask what you can do for your country. And many members of my family, even my immediate family, 110 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:32,120 have gone through great sacrifice to be a doer and not just a talker. In fact, 99% of most people 111 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:39,160 I feel are all talk and no action. I'll give you a few examples of how I like to be a doer 112 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:47,080 and like to take action and not just be all about talk. The MTV lawsuit is an interesting case 113 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:53,160 where a huge corporation came down on me, tried to take something from me that they had allowed 114 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:59,880 me to use legally and I fought them and I fought them with everything I could, which at the time 115 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:06,040 consisted a lot of media, a lot of bad press, David and Goliath tactic was about all I had. I 116 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:12,920 certainly had very limited funds compared to Viacom. It's still wound up costing me about $400,000 117 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:22,680 to combat it and we settled. Other instances of doers, of doing stuff and not just talking 118 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:31,400 in the Netherlands. And by the way, one of the reasons I'm gone is because the following things happened 119 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:40,200 for years ago. I saw this user generated content coming together. I saw it happening. I knew 120 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:47,160 that what we had was tons of audio and video recording and editing equipment all within our own grasp. 121 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,920 I knew that it was only a matter of time before the bandwidth and the infrastructure would be there 122 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,160 for us to all have. And in fact, people in the Netherlands listening will remember me, 123 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:03,000 remember that I said, someday in the not too distant future, everyone will have their own radio 124 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:08,280 and television station. This was actually pre, it wasn't really pre-blocking or certainly pre-blocking 125 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:13,480 in the Netherlands. And so of course, with that comes their own print publication. I started a company 126 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:20,360 called Jambi, an acronym for Just Anarchy Made by You, invested millions of my, literally millions 127 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:29,160 of my own money in that. And we had a client for the Veronica Broadcasting Corporation. We had a 128 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:34,440 three-year deal. Think about it. Think about these guys. If they had stuck with the deal, 129 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,720 they put, there was some lawyer. They made their, their chairman. And he just decided to stop paying. 130 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,760 And he said, you're what courage you got so much money. One and two pay for it. 131 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:49,640 So he broke the, broke the agreement, a three-year deal, which would have put that organization 132 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:55,320 at the, at a leading position in the world of user-generated content and distribution. 133 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:03,880 I feel that I really, really worked very hard. And they pulled out, and of course, when you have 134 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:10,120 30 or 40 people and you have only one real source of income for that, things fall apart. 135 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:15,160 And what happens is all the people who talk and don't do, jump down my shit and call me a tremendous 136 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:24,200 failure. Another thing I did, I saw after terrible, terrible fire in Volandam in the Netherlands, 137 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:30,520 on New Year's Eve, where scores of children died and were burned beyond recognition, 138 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:36,840 that because of the laws in the Netherlands, emergency services helicopters could not get to these 139 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,720 children because they were not allowed to take off at night because they had the helicopter located 140 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,120 on top of the hospital in a residential area. They're not allowed to fly after 7pm. 141 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,760 I went to the authorities and I said, you know what, I mean to this helicopter stuff, 142 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:57,480 I have a little helicopter company. It would be beneficial to me, but I think even more beneficial to 143 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:05,320 all security and beneficial to all people if we could have a separate helicopter in Amsterdam 144 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:12,280 that did have 24 hour a day access specifically for issues of medical emergency. 145 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:18,520 What would what did the talker say? The talkers jumped on me and said, you just want to get some 146 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:25,880 place for rich people taxi cabs. Something to that effect. And by the way, that heli port is there. 147 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:32,200 It cost me hundreds of thousands of euros to go through all of the red tape. It took me 148 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:39,480 almost five years, but it's there. And you should go take a look at what lands there. Very few 149 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:45,160 rich people actually. Mostly it's incubator flights with children who need to be rushed to the hospital. 150 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:51,400 There's also they do a lot for it. It's crazy. They do a lot for baby seals. And that's where 151 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:56,680 the helicopters are stationed. And you know, and no one has ever said, oh, that was kind of good 152 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,560 you did that. And I'm not looking for that. I don't because that's my internal satisfaction. 153 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,240 Same thing with the MTV dot com domain name lawsuit. That was precedent setting. 154 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,360 Anyhow, people will look back and the way the record is usually written is whoever yells the loudest 155 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:18,520 or has the biggest megaphone can determine what history is, can write history. And so I'm not 156 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:24,200 someone who stood up for his rights or for a new territory that had to be discovered within 157 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:31,640 a cyberspace. Now I became the first squatter web logging in the Netherlands. I did a lot. 158 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,560 I was one of the first webloggers. I can't say the first because I wouldn't know that for sure. 159 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:44,200 But certainly I worked very hard on building the infrastructure for web logging in the Netherlands. 160 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:53,080 If you look at web-log.nl, which is in a way kind of the blogger of Holland, the blogger.com. 161 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:00,280 It was just a guy who would just start it up some stuff. And I was very quick to say, hey, you know, 162 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,320 you should really do RSS feeds because that's really what makes weblogging. Yeah, click and connect. 163 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,000 And he said, well, I don't really have a money for the bandwidth for people scanning all these feeds. 164 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,280 And I said, you know what, dump them on my server. So I really help get that going. 165 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:23,480 Now, the downside of all that is with the internet, talk has become even cheaper. It's even easier 166 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,640 to just talk. It's not, you can't just sit around and hang out at the bar. You know, you can. 167 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,040 But, you know, just saying, oh, oh, we should really change something. This is no good. This is really sucks. 168 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,200 And on the internet, now you can actually just sit at home and do that or do it from your mobile, 169 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,520 or wherever you feel like. And just talk. You know, and talk is cheap, my friends. 170 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,840 Doing is what it's about. So let's get back to the lawsuit. 171 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:53,560 This lawsuit was for two reasons for personal reasons. And I can't help the judge's decision. 172 00:21:54,360 --> 00:22:00,200 Yeah, I could go to a higher court and try and prove the judge wrong. But that is really the culture of the 173 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,680 Netherlands. The culture of the Netherlands is, and you can ask any Dutchman about this, 174 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:11,480 they compare the population to blades of grass. And they say, if you stick your head or if your 175 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:17,240 blade of grass is a little bit higher than the rest, it will get chopped off. And they say that 176 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:24,120 with such conviction like it's almost a rule. For creative commons, I went to bat this time. It's not 177 00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:29,160 just for me. It's for creative commons. We need to know that this stuff that our stuff is going to 178 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,600 be protected and that there is a value on our content versus the content of the mainstream media 179 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:40,120 companies. The cost of this lawsuit for me, I estimate, you know, I haven't received a billion, 180 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:45,800 but probably between six and eight thousand dollars. And what this lawsuit resulted in is pretty 181 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:51,800 much a pat on the head for all creative people on the internet. They are there. Okay, we understand. 182 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,680 In fact, the judge specifically said, because the pictures were actually really cute pictures 183 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:02,120 and vacation pictures, she didn't see any harm in the publication of them. She completely missed the 184 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:10,360 whole point. So it's clear that through the mainstream system, I'll just have to call it that, 185 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:16,680 we have no real recourse. And I still believe that we have to set some precedent about the power 186 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:24,600 of we the media and the power of what we can do with these tools. It's funny, I was reading 187 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:32,200 some, actually some gossip sites yesterday who were all reporting on the lawsuit. 188 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:40,600 And one of them recounted a story. Let me see, the story is probably, it's 20 years old this story. 189 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:47,240 Even more, maybe even older. This had probably happened almost 23 years ago. It was on the radio. 190 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:56,200 At the time, there was only one popular radio station throughout all of the Netherlands. 191 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,120 Forget the pirate radio stations, which, of course, I'd done all of my doing at as well. 192 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:08,920 Trying to change the media landscape. And at that time, Patricia and I had just hooked up. 193 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,920 And she was actually living in my apartment in Amsterdam. Now, there are rules, there are paparazzi 194 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,120 rules in the Netherlands, not very many. But one rule is you cannot take pictures or you cannot 195 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:27,480 publish pictures that are taken through a window into someone's home because that is then you are 196 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:34,680 violating someone's privacy. Now, in this particular case, this one photographer, a paparazzi photographer, 197 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:41,240 his name is Yopfunk Tellingon, hit out in garbage cans outside of my apartment for, he says two 198 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,720 or three days. It probably was two or three, at least two, but maybe three days. And he waited 199 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:54,120 and waited and waited until Patricia was on the sidewalk and I was hanging out of the window. 200 00:24:54,120 --> 00:25:00,680 And I think I dropped the keys down to her. He got the picture. It was huge for him and published 201 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,800 widely. Now, of course, you feel, you feel shitty about that. And by the way, I have deep respect 202 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:14,040 for doers like that. I also have respect in a way for paparazzi in general who will go after 203 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,840 their target and take pictures. Now, there are limits. And I think I'm very clear about 204 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:24,280 following my daughter who really is outside of, you know, anything that you should be following 205 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,480 around at all. But I do have respect for someone saying, hey, I'm going to go get this picture 206 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,680 and I'm going to go travel to the United Kingdom. And I'm going to go wait until Patricia goes into 207 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,960 a parking lot and then I'm going to take a picture and I'm going to send it back and I'm going 208 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,920 to make some money off of it. Now, I mean, it's not a big social, you know, something that is 209 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:49,240 is good to society in general, but I do have to say I respect people who do something. Anyway, 210 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,160 so, of course, I had no recourse, but I figured at the time, you know what, let's have some fun 211 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,520 with this. Now, remember, this was the only popular radio station which had full national coverage 212 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,920 at the time. And so, I'm a radio show, which is called Curry and Fun Inkel. 213 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:09,400 I said, hey, you know, since I can't really do anything against this, why don't you 214 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:16,680 listeners, why don't you go down to his store? He had a photo store. And why don't you hang 215 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:22,520 outside of his house for a couple days and then take pictures? And the send-up to me and, you know, 216 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,000 the funniest picture will reward, I think, with a t-shirt or whatever. Gosh, it was amazing. 217 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,120 We got thousands and thousands of pictures and this guy was completely overrun. What he felt 218 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:39,400 for the first time is what it's like to be stalked by paparazzi. And I must say, we've actually 219 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:45,720 become quite friendly with each other throughout the years and not a meeting goes by that we don't 220 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,480 bump into each other that it doesn't say, man, you remember that? That was really funny. Boy, 221 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:55,320 I learned to lessen that. So, to the people of the Netherlands, and again, I have complete faith 222 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,440 in the people of the Netherlands in the individuals and people who are online, people who have 223 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,560 grown up with weblogs, people who are in cyberspace, who are actually overturning important 224 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:12,280 or digging up important facts and bringing them into the mainstream eye. 225 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:23,400 I've never asked for anything. Ever. And I would like to ask you to do something for me, just so 226 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:30,440 we can have some fun with this whole situation. And maybe, just maybe show the gossip magazines, 227 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:37,000 show the paparazzi's and show the court that they're sorely mistaking about the power and the 228 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:44,840 value and the values of what we're doing online. And I'm looking at, I'm looking at, I'm looking at 229 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:52,600 fuckpuntanelle. Webstrapeurlochpuntanelle, vidhate.com, rate to cool.com. You guys, 230 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:58,040 dipspotting.nl. Why don't we show this mark from the Linda, what it's like? 231 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:07,320 He feels that he can send people off to go stalk my daughter and follow her around and publish 232 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,520 where she goes to school and how she gets there. What if we did that to him? 233 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:19,880 Now, it's very easy. He works at an office right near the highway at Outox. He goes, 234 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,720 I don't know where he lives, but it's not so hard to follow him. It's the same thing they did with 235 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,440 my daughter, follow him home. Let's get some pictures of him and his Russian boyfriend. 236 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:35,960 Now, to make this a little more interesting, I was thinking, why don't we have a little competition? 237 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:42,360 And let's place the same value on this material that the court places on our material, which is 238 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:48,200 a thousand euros. So that would be $1,200. So we'll do a competition. 239 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:57,560 Get me pictures of this guy. The best picture, which can be judged by fun factor, by 240 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,720 by a whole bunch of different factors, but it will be judged by the number of comments 241 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:10,040 placed next to each individual picture on the weblog. We'll win $1,000 euros. From me, 242 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,880 I will pay it to you. I think everybody knows that I'm good for it and you can ask around, 243 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:22,920 I always pay my bills. Then we'll have a second part of the competition for people who are 244 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,840 doers, but maybe they don't want to get out of the house for the best photo mashup of Mark 245 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:35,720 Fondalinda, a thousand euros for that as well. And again, it'll be judged publicly the most 246 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:43,800 comments win. And that will be the best therapy for me. That's all I ask. It's real simple. 247 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,200 Let them know the pod people are here. 248 00:29:53,750 --> 00:33:59,880 [ Music ] 249 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:29,880 I was gonna bring it with me, be with me, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 250 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,880 solicitor or lawyer for the daily source code said that just might not be a very good 251 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,880 idea. 252 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,880 Uh, thanks. 253 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,880 Jersey Todd. 254 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,880 I appreciate it. 255 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,880 More history in the making today. 256 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,880 Someone is torturing Perry Dosse. 257 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:52,680 Cutting into him, piece by piece, slicing him open, spilling his blood, removing parts 258 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,680 of his body. 259 00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:01,680 A little bit at a time, who would do such a thing to poor Perry Dosse? 260 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,680 None other than Perry Dosse himself. 261 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:16,680 If he doesn't start cutting faster, he won't make it through the day. 262 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,680 Infection is the horrifying new podcast novel for me. 263 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,680 Scott Sidler, author of Ancestor and Earth Corps. 264 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,680 Infection drops March 11th. 265 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:30,680 So sign up now at scotsiggler.potshow.com or subscribe to the feed directly at feeds. 266 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:38,680 Dotfeedburner.com slash scotsiggler. 267 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,680 You've heard of Web 2.0. 268 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,680 It's publishing 2.0. 269 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:48,680 Scott Sidler, burning a path, a trail for all of us to follow as how publications, how books 270 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,680 are brought into the world. 271 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,680 What is it? 272 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,680 It drops tomorrow. 273 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,680 I love the infection. 274 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,680 Drops tomorrow. 275 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,680 Subscribe now. 276 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,680 You can find it at scotsiggler.potshow.com. 277 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,680 If you rewind your MP3 player, then you can hear the feed burner address as well. 278 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,680 I'm subscribed. 279 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,680 Cannot wait. 280 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,680 The daily source code has this quite a genesis to the name of the show. 281 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:17,680 Of course, daily source code was originally made up to appeal to the developers of 282 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,680 the podcast receivers. 283 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,680 Primarily, I think when Andrew Grummit came on the scene with his team for the lemon receiver, 284 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,680 which now, of course, is juice. 285 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,680 I thought to myself, after having gone through the pain of first learning how to code software 286 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,680 and then building a podcast aggregator with basically almost no content to test it against, 287 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,680 at least not regular content. 288 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,680 I thought to myself, gee, you know, what a good deal. 289 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,680 If these developers are so gung-ho, why don't I give them something to work with every single day? 290 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,680 So that was the daily part. 291 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:53,680 And source code, duh, that appealed, hopefully, to the developers. 292 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:59,680 Now, as we as podcasting grew and as many, 293 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,680 the nano came on the scene actually, I think that's what we started the nano, which is a screenless 294 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,680 not the nano. 295 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,680 I'm sorry, the iPod mini. 296 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,680 Was the mini? 297 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,680 Yeah, the mini, the one without a screen. 298 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,680 As those came on to the scene, we started tagging our podcast. 299 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,680 So I used to call it, you know, daily source code for, and I'd give the date. 300 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,680 And I didn't even start with numbers. 301 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:25,680 I think as I wasn't tracking the episode numbers until somewhere on 150 or whatever. 302 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,680 And that just became, you know, such a long intro. 303 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,680 And then I said, you know, why would we just call it DSC? 304 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,680 And then as I was more into flying, I started using the pilot speak and kind of as a, 305 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,680 as a goof, I said, all right, it's the Delta Sierra Charlie. 306 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,680 All I would car is that pulling up. 307 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,680 No, it's not for us. 308 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,680 I called the Delta Sierra Charlie. 309 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,680 And of course, people took that and started saying, on the Charlie, which is also by the way, 310 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,680 very common in aviation, where as long as you're in the right air space. 311 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,680 And you know, the tower knows who you are, you know, people will use all kinds of different 312 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,680 identifications. 313 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,680 And from the Charlie, we got to the Chuck John, to the Chuck and to the Charles, 314 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,680 and all that. 315 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:09,680 And then, of course, we found out that some people use Charlie to describe other things. 316 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,680 And this is not entirely family's safe what you're about to hear. 317 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,680 But worth listening to regardless. 318 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,680 Hi Adam, it's Charles from Petictionary, 319 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,680 but the word Charlie and penis and vagina. 320 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,680 Two tracks here. 321 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,680 I look at my enormous collection of dictionaries and I find that the word Charlie has been applied 322 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,680 to quite a few choice things over the years. 323 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,680 A style of beard, a woman's breast, the North Vietnamese, during the Vietnam War, 324 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,680 a stupid person, a white person, if you're black, cocaine, a night watchman, a fox, a backpack, 325 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,680 a coward. 326 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,680 No, where do I find it used to refer to penis? 327 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,680 Which brings me to the second track. 328 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,680 You advocate that parents should use the correct names for children's sex organs. 329 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,680 I couldn't agree more, but you, dear Adam, are using the wrong word when you call the gross 330 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,680 privates of a vagina. 331 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,680 It just so happens that this very morning, I began a new podcast in addition to my daily 332 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,680 one. 333 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,680 The new one is called Carnal Knowledge, and here is a sample that speaks directly to the 334 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,680 point. 335 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,680 Here I'm talking about that really successful show of the vagina monlogues. 336 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,680 The whole thing is based on the wrong word. 337 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,680 Listen to this. 338 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,680 You cannot love the vagina unless you love hair. 339 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,680 Many people do not love hair. 340 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,680 My first and only husband hated hair. 341 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,680 The thing they're talking about isn't actually the vagina. 342 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,680 The vagina is an internal part of a woman's body. 343 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,680 The vagina is named from an identical Latin word that the Romans used to describe the 344 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,680 scabbard they kept their knife or sword in. 345 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,680 Obviously, the vagina is named as a sheath or scabbard in relation to men's penises 346 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,680 representing the sword. 347 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,680 The vagina on a woman is not visible. 348 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,680 It doesn't have hair. 349 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,680 It's the passage between the uterus and the visible and hairy. 350 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,680 The reason the show is called the vagina monologues isn't that Eve Ensler didn't know 351 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,680 the difference. 352 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,680 It's that she was a smart marketer. 353 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,680 The correct name for the body part and question is the vulva. 354 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,680 I'm sure you knew that. 355 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:14,680 But as Dr. Harriet Learner says, most people think a vulva is a brand of Swedish car. 356 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,680 You can hear the whole thing by looking for it at podcast alley. 357 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,680 I've submitted to iTunes too, but it's not been about six hours, so it hasn't shown 358 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,680 up yet. 359 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,680 Go on podcast alley for being so fast. 360 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,680 You can search on Carl Knowledge or on Charles Hudson. 361 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,680 Thanks for listening. 362 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,680 Yo, Charles. 363 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,680 Thank you very much from predictionary.com fantastic. 364 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,680 You know, speaking of vulvos, just briefly just want to stray for a second here. 365 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,680 That new or a gummy thing that Microsoft announced yesterday. 366 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,680 I watched the whole scobal video on Channel 9. 367 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,680 That's the Microsoft developers network Channel 9, which I think is great by the way. 368 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,680 What a great way to market a product. 369 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,680 Have a scobal with this camera. 370 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,680 Go talk to the product manager. 371 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,680 Although it looks very interesting, and it seems like it might be just perfect to combine with cast blasts. 372 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,680 I'm not quite sure because I don't think it has audio in and out points. 373 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,680 It does have built in microphones and stuff like that, but I don't know if it'll take it. 374 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,680 I don't think it'll take an external sound card. 375 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,680 It'll take USB, but USB always has latency, so that kind of bites. 376 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,680 Why does that thing look like a vulvo? 377 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,680 This is the one thing that a company like Microsoft does not have in its DNA. 378 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,680 Style, style, and beauty. 379 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,680 That's what makes the iPod so cool. 380 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:33,680 The iPod now, of course, has become cool for what's on it, and not what it looks like. 381 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:39,680 I was like, yeah, I'll probably buy one of those if it has the right inputs, but God, it's just so ugly. 382 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,680 So non-stylish and typical, typical. 383 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,680 By the way, on the daily source code, we break for network members. 384 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,680 Steve Webb has something very important he wants to share with us. 385 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,680 Hey, out of Steve Webb here, man, $5,000 a night for a hotel room and average hotel room. 386 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,680 I tell you what, man. 387 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,680 Come to Southern California. 388 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,680 I will rent you my house for substantially less than that. 389 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:07,680 I'm in Southern California, as you know, I'm about an hour from Palm Springs. 390 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,680 I'm an hour from the beach. 391 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,680 I'm an hour from the mountains. 392 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,680 I'm about an hour from Disneyland. 393 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,680 I'm about an hour and a half from Universal Studios. 394 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,680 I've got a brand new pool of my backyard. 395 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,680 You're welcome to use, man. 396 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,680 I'm telling you, I can really cut a deal for you. 397 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,680 So think about that. 398 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,680 Number two, as far as aluminum and aluminum goes. 399 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,680 Aluminium is an element in the periodic table. 400 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,680 So if you're talking about that element, 401 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,680 Aluminium is the correct pronunciation. 402 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,680 If you're talking about the alloy that most all of us come in contact with everyday, 403 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,680 that's aluminum. 404 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,680 It's ALU-I-M-N-U-M aluminum. 405 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,680 So the Brits are right when they're referring to the Aluminium, 406 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,680 if they're talking about the element. 407 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,680 But I have to say that, you know, I've got lots of British listeners too, 408 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,680 and I don't want to offend anybody. 409 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,680 But aluminum is the correct way to talk about the alloy. 410 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,680 You know, actually, I've gotten so many feet. 411 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,680 First of all, thank you very much for the offer Steve. 412 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,680 I really appreciate it. 413 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,680 That's very kind of you. 414 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,680 But we can't even get flights to California. 415 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,680 That's how bad it is. 416 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,680 All of London is like, well, all of Britain looks like they won the lottery, man. 417 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,680 There's no more flights available even in that direction. 418 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,680 Patricia did call her record boss, 419 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,680 a villain from Cote. 420 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,680 He has hotels and golf courses in Portugal. 421 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,680 Of course, he's a mainstream record guy. 422 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,680 And used to be really active. 423 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,680 They have a long lasting love affair. 424 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,680 And he said that he would hook us up, 425 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680 and I can definitely get to transportation down there. 426 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,680 So I do appreciate it. 427 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,680 Many, many people sent in, many, many dictionary entries, 428 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,680 and apparently aluminum or aluminium, 429 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,680 whether you're talking about the element or the alloy, 430 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,680 are both correct. 431 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,680 It's just a difference in pronunciation. 432 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,680 Let's see. 433 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,680 Next, one other thing. 434 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,680 You've often talked about how words are just words to you. 435 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,680 And for the most part, I would say that there are some words 436 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,680 that I choose not to use. 437 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,680 But when it comes to using the name Jesus Christ, 438 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,680 Adam, he means something to me. 439 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,680 That's a real person. 440 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,680 How would you like it if every time, 441 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,680 you know, I smash my thumb or something like that, 442 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,680 I go, oh, Adam Curry. 443 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,680 I mean, you didn't have anything to do with it. 444 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,680 And in most of the cases where you've used that name recently, 445 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,680 he didn't have anything to do with it. 446 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,680 So if you could be just a little bit more sensitive in that area, 447 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,680 I would appreciate it. 448 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,680 And I'm sure that there's lots of other listeners 449 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,680 that would appreciate it as well. 450 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,680 So just to be a little sensitive there in that area, 451 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,680 I'd appreciate it, my friend. 452 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,680 Thanks, Adam. 453 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,680 Thank you very much, Steve. 454 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,680 Well, first of all, I apologize. 455 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,680 Didn't mean to offend you. 456 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,680 And I do understand what you're saying. 457 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,680 Let me tell you where it comes from. 458 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,680 You know, having been in broadcasting and having to have lived 459 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,680 with broadcasts, rules for half of my life. 460 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,680 It's so liberating to do a podcast that, you know, 461 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,680 I kind of drop all the filters, you know, everything. 462 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,680 And that includes speech that I might not use in a public place. 463 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:12,680 And of course, although in smaller groups, 464 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,680 I just tend to speak the way I speak. 465 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,680 And that using Jesus Christ's name in vain, 466 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,680 I guess is the correct way to put that. 467 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,680 I can understand that's offensive to you. 468 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,680 However, Steve, I do want to say I think that that was a brilliant 469 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,680 marketing play by Jesus Christ. 470 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,680 Think about it. 471 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,680 For all these years, whenever something bad happens, 472 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,680 when you smash your thumb, people say that. 473 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,680 And of course, I didn't, you know, it was in, 474 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,680 I've been influenced by my parents or a television or whatever. 475 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,680 So, you know, I didn't make this up on myself. 476 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,680 This has been going on for, oh, let's say maybe 2000 or some odd years, 477 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,680 perhaps. 478 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,680 Personally, I would love it. 479 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,680 I would love it. 480 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,680 It would be fantastic. 481 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,680 People, the next time, something happens. 482 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,680 And you want to say Jesus Christ, say Adam Curry. 483 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,680 Please, I beg of you. 484 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,680 If you smash your thumb, yes, say Adam Curry. 485 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:18,680 Because it is one of the reasons I believe that his name is still out there. 486 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,680 So feel free to do that. 487 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,680 I do not mind. 488 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,680 I really don't. 489 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,680 I would see, in fact, I would, it would be, I would find it a great honor. 490 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,680 And I'm not comparing myself to anyone else. 491 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,680 I'm just saying, I would find it an honor. 492 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,680 If in 2000 years from now, when something goes incredibly wrong, 493 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,680 and they say someone smashes their thumb or bumps into something or 494 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,680 stubs their toe or whatever, they say, I'm Curry. 495 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,680 I hope I was successful in that programming. 496 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,680 Steve, I appreciate it. 497 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,680 Point well made. 498 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,680 Adam, this is season from Gragradio. 499 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,680 I was listening to DSC 350 today. 500 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,680 Okay, make that Charlie Cha Cha, Charles 350. 501 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,680 And I heard the feedback about your pronunciation of controversy. 502 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:13,680 Now, I'm just wondering if I were to move to Italy and started using, say, the term 503 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,680 Chao? 504 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,680 Would I piss off a bunch of Americans? 505 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,680 Or if I moved to Japan and started saying, 506 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:28,680 how crazy is it to think that one would not pick up some language and accents 507 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,680 from one's own environment? 508 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,680 If only because it's fun to do so, my son is a Colorado boy, 509 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,680 but it didn't take long after his move to Texas for him to be saying, 510 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,680 y'all, he's using other Texasisms. 511 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,680 So, Adam, do your thing, baby, we love it. 512 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,680 And here's a little shameless plug for Gragradio. 513 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,680 After you've finished listening to the Chuck E. Chuchu, 514 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:57,680 come on out to Gragradio.com and check out an episode of Gragradio with Doug and Susan. 515 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,680 Right on, Susan, thank you. 516 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,680 I like your voice, by the way. 517 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,680 Very husky and sexy. 518 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,680 Very, very nice. 519 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,680 Ah, Adam Curry. 520 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,680 Reminds me of Denny Crane. 521 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,680 Okay, let's see, we're almost at the end of today's show. 522 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,680 Um, we're going to close the set. 523 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,680 Yes, I paid up saying that we have about 30 seconds for the satellite window to close. 524 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,680 So, those of you check it out on stars and serious. 525 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,680 Hope you enjoyed today's podcast. 526 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,680 There's lots of cool stuff going on with podcast and come to podshow.com, 527 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:39,680 dailystoresco.com, to find out more, to listen to more. 528 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,680 Or just stay tuned right now for a Mark Yoshimoton M.Coff 529 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,680 and the help players coming up with Pacific Coast Hellway. 530 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,680 Um, Madge Weinstein with East Radio, Don and Drew, 531 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,680 and then Wichita Rutherford and we wanted up with CC Chap, 532 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,680 and you guys have a great weekend drive home safely, 533 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,680 and hopefully we'll meet back here on Monday. 534 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,680 So, everybody, wait goodbye to our satellite friends, bye-bye. 535 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,680 And Steve, you may want to turn the, uh, you may want to turn the sound down. 536 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,680 Hello, Adam's Curry. 537 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,680 It's Madge Weinstein of East Radio.com. 538 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,680 You're favorite lesbian on the internet. 539 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,680 I have a boner to pick with you. 540 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,680 What is all this bullshit about calling your show the Charlie? 541 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,680 That is the most annoying, heterocentric, male oriented society, 542 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,680 divergenating, well, I want to say the opposite of demasculating, 543 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,680 but you're divergenating me. 544 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,680 I think that's the word. 545 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,680 I mean, why do you have to call your show Charlie? 546 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,680 It's so stupid. 547 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,680 It's just so macho, bravado. 548 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,680 It's so soccer. 549 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,680 It's so I went to Iraq, but I didn't fight anything. 550 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,680 I just combed my hair and rode on a helicopter. 551 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,680 It's just so ridiculous. 552 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:47,680 Don't call it the show. 553 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,680 And besides, the Charlie, he's what they call stop for a second. 554 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,680 Madge, uh, I beg to differ on the Iraq thing. 555 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,680 I don't care what you say. 556 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,680 Again, I did go to Iraq. 557 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,680 I did meet with the Iraqi people. 558 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,680 I did form my own opinion, and you didn't. 559 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,680 Pain in the England. 560 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,680 So I don't know if you're making one of these drug references or what, 561 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,680 but it's got to be stopped the Charlie. 562 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,680 Why can't you call it something feminine like, um, 563 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,680 like the god, the Esther or the goddess or mother nature or my vagina. 564 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,680 No, you can't name it after my vagina. 565 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,680 I mean, whatever, it's bullshit. 566 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,680 Anyway, and the other thing is this, 567 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,680 it's so, your show is becoming more and more sexist. 568 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,680 This Metro sexual business. 569 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,680 What is that about? 570 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,680 And why, um, why do you have to talk about shaving for men only? 571 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,680 How come you don't talk about vaginal shaving? 572 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,680 How come you don't want to know how, what are the things I have to go through once a year 573 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,680 when I shaved my vagina to go to the Bahamas? 574 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,680 How come you don't want to know about that? 575 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,680 All you want to know is about men shaving. 576 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,680 You know why? 577 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,680 Cause you're a tranny fucker. 578 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,680 That's why you're a fucking tranny fucker. 579 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,680 You're a pervert, Adam's curry. 580 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,680 You're a goddamn fucking pervert. 581 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:11,680 I'm sure Patricia will appreciate that. 582 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,680 And I'm sure that she'll have plenty to say to you, 583 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,680 and by the way, why don't you come back to me 584 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,680 when you actually have grown a charlie worth mentioning? 585 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,680 Okay? 586 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,680 Oh, one other thing about, 587 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,680 remember we're still talking about doers and talkers. 588 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,680 A lot of banter on the boards about download with Heather and Junel, 589 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:41,680 which is a podcast underwritten and sponsored by AccuView Contact lenses. 590 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,680 It's gotten so bad now, particularly people who hang out at podcast pickle, 591 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,680 which I've decided I'm just not going to read any more boards, 592 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,680 podcast alley or podcast pickle. 593 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,680 And the people who are doing this, they know what I'm talking about, 594 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,680 they talk so much trash about this podcast. 595 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:06,680 And it's so evident that they have never even listened to it. 596 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,680 They're so lazy. 597 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,680 They'd rather just spew off a few lines of garbage 598 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,680 without even having listened to the show. 599 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,680 It is not scripted. 600 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,680 Yes, it's completely underwritten by AccuView. 601 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,680 There's a reason for that. 602 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:27,680 These girls, and you're so hurtful to the talent on the show. 603 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,680 They are just doing a job, right? 604 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,680 That's nothing wrong with it. 605 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,680 No one died and made the podcasting rules of what can't. 606 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,680 Podcasting is a technology. 607 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:43,680 It's not that there's certain rules of what you can and can't do. 608 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,680 Go listen to it for a change. 609 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,680 Listen to the show download.acuView.com. 610 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,680 It's not for 13 year old boys. 611 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,680 It's for 13 year old girls. 612 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,680 It's a fun show if you want to talk trash amongst girlfriends and talk about boys. 613 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,680 And yes, they talk about acuView lenses. 614 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,680 They're sponsor. 615 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,680 So stop it already. 616 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,680 Grow up, please. 617 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,680 I had a visit to Joe from the small world podcast here. 618 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,680 You know, every time you hear your listeners talk about things like DRM, 619 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:18,680 wiretapping, or companies like AOL, taxing, or emails, I get so mad. 620 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,680 I want to hurt my eye-potted someone. 621 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,680 Let me take a deep breath. 622 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,680 That's better. 623 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,680 Today, in the small world, I'll be talking with Mitchell Shapineck who wrote the end of the 624 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,680 blog sphere about a topic that's been discussed in the DSC. 625 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,680 How telecommunication companies are pushing for a legislation to create a multi-tiered 626 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,680 internet, effectively owning the web. 627 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,680 So I thought I'd turn excerpt of the interview with you. 628 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,680 My fellow Delhi source code listeners. 629 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,680 There's a very serious threat, really right now. 630 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,680 In fact, as I speak, and in the coming next month or two, the legislation that's being crafted 631 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,680 in the halls of Washington, D.C. 632 00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,680 that would take the bulk of the control of the internet away from in users, 633 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,680 and into the hands of the major table and telecommunication companies. 634 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,680 Companies like AT&T and Verizon and Comcast and Balsal, 635 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,680 who basically want to turn the internet into their own kind of private commercial 636 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:15,680 feast up. 637 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,680 I think the biggest thing of what people can do is to learn about the matter and spread the 638 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:20,680 word. 639 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,680 When people know about these issues and know that people can do something about these issues, 640 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,680 it's pretty much gravy after that. 641 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,680 If you feel, as I do, that it's an issue that net neutrality and related issues 642 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,680 regarding the future of the internet and ultimately the future perhaps of the entirety of the 643 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,680 United States, get involved in some of the organizations that campaign for the working 644 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:41,680 on these efforts. 645 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,680 I'll mention freepress.net. 646 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,680 National lobbying group called Common Cause. 647 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,680 Their website is common cause.org. 648 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,680 Then more and spread the word about the issue about its importance, 649 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,680 no matter how you might feel about it. 650 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,680 If you'd like to hear the rest of the interview, you can download the show at smallworldpodcast.com. 651 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,680 Thanks Adam, and I hope the vacation works out. 652 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,680 Yeah, thank you very much, buddy. 653 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,680 The podcast Paul here in the UK sent me a Skype message this morning. 654 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,680 I replied, but I guess he was already off to work. 655 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,680 The message said, Adam, have you heard about this? 656 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,680 The UK government wants to all podcasters to register themselves. 657 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:21,680 They'll have to pay 100 pounds, and if they don't, and they're caught, then they will have to pay 658 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,680 1000 pound fine. 659 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,680 When does it start this registration? 660 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,680 Well, April 1st. 661 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,680 Yeah, Paul, I don't think you're an idiot. 662 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,680 Please don't think that I am. 663 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,680 That's clearly the lamest April Fool's joke I have ever heard of. 664 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,680 Just going back to, back to download with Heather and Janelle. 665 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,680 Doers and trash talkers. 666 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,680 Okay, you can sit there and talk and say it sucks, 667 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,680 and the marketing is bad, and it's a horrible idea, 668 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:56,680 or you could get up off your lazy ass, go out, and go do your own show, 669 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,680 and show how it's supposed to be done. 670 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,680 And many of you do that, and I choose not to listen, 671 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,680 because I don't think that what you're doing is cool, 672 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,680 but I don't trash you for it. 673 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,680 God, that's so stupid. 674 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,680 You know, here we are all infighting on these stupid message boards. 675 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,680 It's just, ah, they disgust me. 676 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,680 And I'm just tired of it. 677 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:20,680 I really am. 678 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,680 Now luckily, you'll all have something to talk about. 679 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,680 Hey, let's end the show on a high note, shall we? 680 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,680 This is a song that always gets me feeling really good and pumping for the weekend. 681 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,680 The natives of a new song. 682 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,680 And people. 683 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,680 Yeah, that's you too. 684 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,680 Out there on the pickle and on the alley. 685 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,680 We're all just people. 686 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,680 People are in using your hand. 687 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,680 There's music playing in your head. 688 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,680 So listen. 689 00:56:46,680 --> 00:59:41,120 [ Music ] 690 00:59:41,120 --> 01:00:11,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 691 00:59:53,750 --> 01:00:11,120 [ Music ] 692 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:41,120 Yeah yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah 693 01:00:41,120 --> 01:01:01,120 Oh yeah, okay, that's it. Boy, this was really cathartic. I felt really good. That's what I do it for. Just get some shit off my chest. I feel wonderful 694 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:06,120 Hey, I'm looking forward to a great weekend. I hope you have a great weekend. If you think I'm a dick, just remember 695 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,120 I'm only human 696 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:18,120 Adam at curry dot com daily source code dot com and if you see all kinds of weird stuff with file names and stuff like that 697 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:25,120 Obviously what we're doing right now is working on the podcast delivery network. So things might break things might fart all over the place 698 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:30,120 But that's always what the daily source code has been about it's a great testing ground. We've got some volume 699 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:37,120 So we can really see if things break apologies for that. We are working on on everything. See you on Monday everybody take care 700 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:54,120 Get this podcast and we're great ones like it on the high performance podcast delivery network from podjo and limelight networks 701 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,120 I love it