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With $16 million worth of airplane strapped to my ass.

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Than the next generation radio content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into this jerk.

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Fantastic, it's Adam Curry.

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You're looking for a better man.

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They can't know us.

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They can't know us.

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Things are looking up.

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American heartbreak.

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Michael Butler's band.

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Michael Butler's band.

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Everybody, how are you doing?

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Coming to you from northern California.

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It is bright and early.

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It's 10 minutes.

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The time that I'm making this podcast.

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But we're here in San Francisco.

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And once again, my little commute went very successfully.

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Let me just say a couple things about American heartbreak.

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As I said, that's Michael Butler's band.

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It's brand new.

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They have a record coming out on April 18th.

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And they're starting a tour next Wednesday on the 22nd March in Las Vegas.

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And I believe they're actually.

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I don't know if it's the whole tour of it's just this particular date.

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I'm told are pretty damn good.

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So has Michael said here.

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The song is things are looking up.

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It's no Matthew evil, but it's okay.

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It's very, very, very much okay.

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Ah, yes. Well, let me tell you a little bit about the past 24 hours.

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Actually, it was really interesting.

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For me to have recorded the show, the Daily Source code for Tuesday.

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Now, I recorded that Monday night, but it actually didn't go up until Tuesday morning.

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So I got on a plane. I flew like 9,000 miles.

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It was a long flight this time was 10 hours and 26 minutes.

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Which was, you know, that's like a four movie, a four movie flight right there.

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And then I arrived at the condo, say, I was in like 230 something like that.

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And then I flipped on serious.

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I actually got here before the show got here.

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It was the weirdest thing because, of course, on a serious satellite,

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Okay, movies on the flight. Let's see.

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Good night and good luck.

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Now, it was actually bad luck for this movie that it was the first thing I watched because, you know,

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I got, I left it, you know, 830 in the morning.

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And of course, they offer you that come when you got on the plane.

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Some of us call that a mimosa in the UK.

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It's called a boxfiz.

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I think I fell asleep five times during that movie.

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I just couldn't get into it.

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What is it to get rich or die?

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and where a lot of hip hop and rap artists come from.

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There's just some stuff that I wanted to catch up on.

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that old, that kind of filled me up a little bit.

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I came back.

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Richard Brewer, hey, brought me back.

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which meant I literally threw all the elements of the studio,

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I didn't even set an alarm.

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Four o'clock?

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like, okay, I'll get up.

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and going through just tons of email,

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because when you travel for 10 hours,

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you lose track of every email thread,

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it's just so much incoming.

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Oh, he's a,

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I gotta stay away from drink.

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It is not my poison.

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Let me tell you.

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So, on the show today,

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some interesting feedback,

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and this first one,

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I definitely want to take a little bit of time

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going through.

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It's, it's from,

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well, I'm not even going to tell you who is from.

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It was from Vasily.

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And I know Vasily.

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In fact, he sent me this email,

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said, do you remember your trip to Moscow in 1989?

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I do.

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I was there.

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We met.

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We worked together.

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you know, this doesn't immediately spark off all kinds of,

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Of course, I remember Vasily.

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That was a very, very weird trip.

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He says, I hope you find this bit of audio feedback entertaining.

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Is anything I can do for you?

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Let me know,

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all the best to you and your family,

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keep podcasting Vasily.

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So, let's, let's just go through this email.

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Let me just set the stage for you.

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This is 1989.

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The Berlin Wall still firmly in place.

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Doc McGee, manager of Bon Jovi,

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Motley crew, Skid Row, and a couple others.

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He had been busted for, I think,

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he had a plane, a private jet or something

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that had been confiscated

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because it had, I don't know,

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a couple tons of weed on board

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that they were flying into Miami.

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which was, of course, a great idea

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to take a whole bunch of rock and rollers.

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The whole show was, and these were the days,

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I think Billy Joel had just been there two weeks before.

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for musicians from the West to come in.

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for a mini black Sabbath reunion.

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but this is pretty rich, rich Russia.

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with the hell was that, oh, I guess I did set my alarm.

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It'll never shut off if I don't do it.

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So that's how the vodka Martinez worked.

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I don't even remember setting it alarm,

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to get going.

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So this hotel, which was the luxury hotel,

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the mattresses were basically straw filled with straw.

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in that particular section of the city just for us.

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How many alarms are going to go off here?

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Stop this already.

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Jesus Christ.

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Interrupting the flow of my show.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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I set two alarms.

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I'm telling you, I should not be drinking martinis.

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What's some of the things that Vasily is talking about.

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But now, of course, I do remember.

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And he remembers my trip a lot better than I do.

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Hello there, Adam.

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This is Vasily Strunnikov in Moscow.

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You might remember me from your trip to Russia in 1989

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when you and MTV were here for the big music and peace festival

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at Lenin Stadium with Bomb Jovis Cinderella's Skid Row and others.

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I was your Russian-American translator.

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Baby sitter.

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Now, that's when I remembered.

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Oh, yeah, I do remember we had a guy with spoke excellent English.

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And the English he's speaking now is even better than I recall it.

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And he was our guide.

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Of course, there was no MTV Russia at the time,

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but we'll get into that in a second.

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Remember all the vodka and the late night parties at Gorky Park?

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Yes, not just Gorky Park, but I think we went to the red square as well.

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Now, you have to understand.

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This was an anti-drug and anti alcohol concert.

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And Vasily was completely trashed on the plane before we even,

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you know, were out of the outside of US airspace.

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I think I've told you that story where he was standing in the,

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standing in the aisle next to the laboratory,

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which someone was, you know, was occupied.

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Sherrad.

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Sherrad.

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I got it.

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I got it.

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Sherrad.

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And he didn't help.

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And he just wet himself right there.

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It was the most embarrassing thing.

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Not just for him.

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We were all embarrassed for him.

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So, yeah, lots, I remember lots of vodka,

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Comrade.

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I certainly, isn't that a coincidence that I had all the vodka last night

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and we're talking about vodka again this morning?

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A big boat with a KGB hookers.

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There indeed, I don't know if it's still there,

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but there was a boat.

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And this boat was basically a horror house.

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And there was also a bar and any Westerner could go,

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could go to this boat.

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And you walk a gangplank.

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Oh, man, I'm starting to remember this now, gosh.

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And there are all these little births and bunks and little doors.

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And maybe 20 or something like that.

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It was a reasonably sized boat or barge or whatever.

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And they were all hookers.

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But of course, they were all KGB hookers.

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And at least that's what we were told.

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It's like, whatever you do, man, you do not want to have sex

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with any of the hookers over there because they're all affiliated with the KGB.

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And what they'll do is they'll blackmail you.

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And then before you know it, you're going to be an agent.

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You'll have to be spying on your own country because they'll blacken out.

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It's like, whoa.

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And by the way, let me just say,

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not that I would do anything like that anyway.

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But there was nothing there for me, my friends.

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Nothing.

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Or the time Kurt Loader got so loaded that we almost blocked him

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at Red Square.

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In fact, he's sin along a picture,

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which I'm going to post along with opposite on curry dot com

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along with the show notes.

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He has a picture of Kurt Loader completely hammered on a chair

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with some woman hanging over him.

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I don't remember who she was.

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But yes, I do remember we lot.

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We couldn't find Kurt.

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He was gone.

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It was gone for hours.

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This is one of our like three a.m.

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Hey, let's, it's a great idea.

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Let's go drink some vodka on Red Square.

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Yeah, that'll be fun.

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Which, of course, it was.

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And at that time, oh my God,

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the Moscow Hell's Angel showed up.

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Completely outlawed group of guys,

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you know, driving Java motorcycles and popping off,

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popping wheelies and flipping off the back.

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And very, very intense scene.

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So yes, I remember that particularly Kurt getting so loaded

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and we lost him.

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Picture will be on curry dot com.

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Check it out in the show notes for today.

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The stories, the memories.

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You know what's interesting?

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You and I have quite a few things in common.

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Like you, I spent my childhood in Maryland.

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I've been in broadcasting for over 25 years.

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I am a former MTV VJ.

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MTV Russia, that is.

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And like you,

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I advocate and support podcasting.

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In my case, Russian podcasting.

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About a year ago, while listening to your show,

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I thought, why not start podcasting in Russia?

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So we launched Russia's first and only podcast directory site

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at Russianpodcasting.ru.

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Now, the local press are having a field day with this.

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They can't get enough of the fact that there is something

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strange about XMTVVJs that makes them engage in such activities as podcasting.

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They mention you and their articles all the time, Adam.

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Anyway, we're celebrating our first anniversary with a big conference,

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and a big shout out to all Russians around the world,

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listening to your show to check us out at Russianpodcasting.ru.

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And speaking of Russians around the world,

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remember the time in 1989 when you were bored in the production office at Lenin Stadium?

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You know, there was a lot of boredom during that week we were there.

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I'll tell you that.

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So yeah, I remember some of it.

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And you grabbed a polaroid camera and started taking pictures of yourself.

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Well, another famous Russian in the international podcast community,

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Marc Yoshimoto Nemtsoff has my exclusive on that story.

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But if you play this bit of feedback, I'm willing to renegotiate.

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Hold on a second, you think a comma, commie dickhead?

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What do you blackmailing me now?

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Like, you're some KGB hooker on a barge?

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I'm not afraid, man.

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Actually, when I heard this, you heard this audio comment.

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And then it got to this point, I'm like, oh, man, you know, the voice, everything.

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It's a joke.

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It's a specific host to Hellway joke.

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But it isn't because this guy is for real.

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Vasily is for real.

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Russian podcasting.ru is for real.

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The Kurt Loder picture I put up is for real.

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The stories are for real.

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And we should really do a Skype conference because I've been feeling that Vasily will remember

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a hell of a lot more than I did, but maybe when he recalls some of the things that

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that happened during that trip, I might be able to chime in.

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But, you know, man, don't go blackmailing me.

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Just some of the damn pictures I'll post him.

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There's nothing I can be here for.

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I'm ashamed of absolutely not.

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Come on, man.

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And I played your thing anyway.

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Thanks for all good luck and dolls.

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Vidanya.

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Don't come red curry.

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Rosridania.

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Hey, there you go.

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Come red curry.

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That's a good one.

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It's come red curry in the curry condo.

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Coming to you from Northern California.

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And it's actually looking outside.

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I think it's going to be, um, looks like it's going to be overcast.

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There's no sun coming up yet.

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Man, there's so many people going to work at this time in the morning.

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There's already a traffic jam almost coming off of the Bay Bridge.

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And I noticed that the Coca-Cola sign is broken.

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It just says enjoy, which is kind of nice.

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The Coca-Cola piece never appears.

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It just says enjoy.

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And it stays there all night.

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All right, Vasily.

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Very cool, man.

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Good to hear from you.

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I really appreciate the Kurt Loder pick.

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And I appreciate you reminding me of some of the things that some of the things that

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the took place during that infamous trip for the Moscow Music Peace Festival, which I guess

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the whole concert was, uh, was recorded.

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I remember MTV aired.

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I don't know if they still have it or if they'll ever aired again, but it was,

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it was definitely good times, my friend.

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Good times.

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And, uh, well, kind of staying over in that region of the world, way

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Yantan, send me an email.

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Adam, hope that podcasting will kick off in China.

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My thoughts are that it will.

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But as soon as a comment is made about the country values,

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perhaps communist or otherwise, the government or the internet police.

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Hmm, I didn't know they had actual internet police, but wouldn't put it past them.

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They will ban it.

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We are talking about a country that changed the title of Despert Housewives to Crazy Housewives

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and censored all the sex scenes because they thought it was too promiscuous.

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Oh, that's interesting.

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If you take out all the sex scenes out of Despert Housewives, what's left of the show?

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I wonder how Pacifico's hellway or East Radio will even get to air in China.

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I would really love to hear what you have to say about that at a future daily source code way.

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Yeah.

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Thank you very much, way.

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Well, it's going to be interesting, you know.

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I think, I guess that you're in China.

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So you obviously know about Pacifico's hellway and East Radio.

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I think that, you know, that's one thing.

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And what's probably much more interesting and exciting is to see what the Chinese are going to do with podcasting.

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And what are they going to be sending our way?

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I think that's the stuff that is exciting and interesting.

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There's enough ways for the Chinese to understand what's going on in the culture in the West,

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but for us to understand what's going on there is a completely different story.

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And with all the millions and millions of portable devices and cell phones,

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I think that we're going to be able to learn quite a lot about podcasting from portable devices.

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And we certainly hope to reach our 100 million mini screens in China as we're going for 100 million listeners here.

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In the US and in Europe.

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And actually today, I have a meeting.

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It's going to be a good meeting with British telecom.

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Out here, all their marketing mucks are here for some conference or something.

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And they've asked Ron and I to come over and talk about podcasting.

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Could this finally be the kick in the pants that the United Kingdom needs to really get it all cranking?

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I think it's very possible.

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These guys definitely have a hold on a lot of the broadband market.

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And I think determined a lot of what is taking place in the UK as it pertains to alternate forms of media.

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And now the BBC is getting very, very close to releasing a lot of shows as podcasts.

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In fact, people send me a couple of links to shows that haven't been publicized yet,

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but our podcast, there's a daily news podcast that I like a lot,

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that's kind of a collection of all the BBC radio news shows.

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And it's about, you know, 15, 20 minutes perfect to catch up on.

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If you just want to know what's happening in the world of, of onty of the BBC.

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But they still don't actually talk a lot about podcasts and they talk about web casting or alternative radio.

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And so, you know, there could be something going on there.

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Those of you listening to a serious channel 102.

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This is the daily source code part of the pod show line up.

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Up next, we will have Pacific Coastel way.

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Followed by yeast radio and Dawn and Drew.

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We'll take you up until 10 o'clock eastern time, 7 Pacific.

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And I'll see you back here tomorrow.

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Bye-bye.

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And for those of you still hanging out on the podcast, let's continue, shall we?

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I've got a few things that I wanted to catch up on.

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I just didn't feel right about, you know, dropping the topics of,

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let's see, internet surcharges.

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It's one thing that we've been talking about.

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I've got so many different pieces of feedback.

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So many people, you know, weighing in on what this means and how it's going to work.

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And it seems to be actually still quite confusing.

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Here's a comment about it.

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Let's see what this is.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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How many are you so soft?

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It's a Charlie 340 last night and heard the comments by the listener.

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Pretending to tear your internet, the stemmed from your discussion of DSC.

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AT&T's proposed acquisition of Bell South.

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There seems to be a lot of misconceptions running around the internet,

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especially in the podcasting community of what the R box true intentions are.

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Unfortunately, they do not articulate those intentions very well.

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Their management, they're well, their dinosaurs, frankly.

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And they're not very good at communicating with their customers,

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the public.

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00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:42,000
Unfortunately, that's not their fault so much as a problem that exists in the,

507
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:49,000
in the environment they've been brought up in as they've risen through the ranks.

508
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:54,000
What they're really talking about here is a differentiated service,

509
00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:00,000
not shutting off any or blocking any potential services of people that don't pay the ransom

510
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,000
or giving any crummy services because you don't pay this so called ransom,

511
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,000
but providing a better quality service for those people that want to provide

512
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000
a specific time-sensitive services.

513
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000
I'm just going to stop this right here, hold on a second.

514
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,000
I'm going to reconfigure everything, oh man.

515
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000
I don't buy it at all.

516
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,000
You know, what's happening is it's happening all over the media landscape

517
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000
and telecommunications landscape.

518
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,000
We've known for years and years that all the things the telephone line does

519
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,000
can be done through IP through internet protocol traffic.

520
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,000
This is what we're seeing with all these voiceover IP services.

521
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,000
I literally think that we're at this point now where voiceover IP and people

522
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,000
using Skype or Vonage or what have you is really hurting the telecos business.

523
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000
They're seeing all this money they're pouring into backbones.

524
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,000
They're seeing basically that they're not a part of the content piece.

525
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,000
This is what's happening.

526
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Now whether I'm making a phone call to you over the internet,

527
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,000
or whether I'm making a podcast, or whether whatever it is,

528
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000
they understand unlike the Dutch court system.

529
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,000
They understand that that content has a much higher value than the roads that it

530
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,000
travels over.

531
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000
And they want a piece of it.

532
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000
That's basically it.

533
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000
They're looking at Google saying, oh shit.

534
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000
You know, these guys are making money.

535
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,000
Thanks to our pipes.

536
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Yeah, we'll not just your pipes.

537
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000
Thanks to a whole bunch of people's pipes.

538
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000
And now that I'm investigating this situation more,

539
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,000
it's going to be very hard for them to do any of this,

540
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,000
this metering or this prioritizing of packets.

541
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,000
And less everyone is full, I think.

542
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000
And this is just a layman speaking here.

543
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000
And less everyone is fully, what is it?

544
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000
IPv6 compatible.

545
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000
So version 6 of the internet protocol.

546
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000
And so maybe it's just a lot of talk.

547
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000
Maybe they'll try to do it through legislation.

548
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,000
But whatever happens, it is definitely in my mind,

549
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,000
not the way to make this, to make this all.

550
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,000
I'd rather pay more money just for my monthly bandwidth bill

551
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,000
than have, you know, services being taxed.

552
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,000
And maybe services that I'll never get to because, well, low and behold,

553
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,000
a small company or a bunch of entrepreneurs who just want to get something

554
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,000
going can't actually afford to do it anymore,

555
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000
which is not the spirit of the internet at all.

556
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000
And not the spirit of all these tools we've been building to make it

557
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000
very cheap and easy.

558
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000
You know, these are people trying to build walled gardens.

559
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Same goes for the email tax.

560
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Let's just call it a tax.

561
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,000
I mean, but it's not a government tax.

562
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000
It's like airport tax.

563
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,000
In fact, airport.

564
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000
It's very like airport tax.

565
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
You know what you go somewhere.

566
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000
And you know, you, the tickets, let's just say,

567
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,000
to take it costs 100 bucks and then your hotel costs 100 bucks.

568
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000
At the end of the day, you wind up paying 300 bucks for the vacation.

569
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
And they say, well, you know, it's all these airport taxes.

570
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Well, airport tax is basically a landing fee.

571
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,000
It's what the airport, the airport charges the carrier to take you there.

572
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000
It's not, when they say tax, you immediately think,

573
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,000
well, that means it's a government thing and it was nothing we can do about it.

574
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Bullshit.

575
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,000
It's just money that is the cost of doing business for an airline.

576
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000
And it's been, it's very much like these ISPs and email.

577
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000
If you want your email delivered, then you're going to have to start paying a tax in

578
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,000
future.

579
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000
Check this out.

580
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,000
You know, it's not just, oh, there's a whole bunch of shenanigans going on

581
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000
with email between large email service providers.

582
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Let's call on that.

583
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,000
So if you have a hot mail account, you're pretty much screwed on all

584
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,000
things because you're, you're not getting a lot of mail.

585
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:36,000
And of course, interestingly enough, hot mail delivers the most spam to you,

586
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,000
than any other, any other email service.

587
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000
Chris says, I don't have an Apple dot Mac account.

588
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000
And I cannot email people at Yahoo.

589
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,000
My email never shows up in Yahoo mailbox as when sending it from my dot

590
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Mac account to large companies.

591
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000
And they can't figure this out.

592
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,000
Come on, not to mention I pay $99 for my email service.

593
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000
Well, that is, of course, an outrage.

594
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,000
And of course, it's all, I think it's illegal to stuff that's going on.

595
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000
This is illegal.

596
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,000
So we have our email stuff set in place.

597
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000
It'll be up and rolling next week sometime.

598
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000
You know, we've got the, the way we got the strong mail service.

599
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,000
So you get like boxes, you know, hardware and software and then the service.

600
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,000
And apparently now we should have, I mean, even castblaster dot com is getting

601
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000
crap now in registration emails.

602
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
It's just, it's a freaking outrage.

603
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,000
So even though this is one I'd like to fight, we also have a business to run.

604
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,000
So I guess all I can do is keep talking about this horrible precedent that's being set

605
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,000
as companies now charging for delivery of email.

606
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000
And you should just not stand for it.

607
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:49,000
You know, if you're paying for email and you're paying for sending email or receiving email,

608
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000
you know, you should be receiving email.

609
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000
And you should be sending email.

610
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
It should be working.

611
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,000
And they should put the owners on your, on your ISP.

612
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,000
You'll see.

613
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,000
You'll see before too long, you're going to notice that some of your emails aren't showing up.

614
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000
Excuse me.

615
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000
I get so excited about this stuff.

616
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,000
So we're just keeping our eye on it.

617
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
I think there's a project called Goodmail.

618
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
I think it's goodmail.

619
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000
I'll have to look into it.

620
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:20,000
But, you know, the end of the day, all these individual ISPs.

621
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:28,000
So if you leave, you have your email through Yahoo or Hotmail or MSN or Gmail or Apple.

622
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000
However, you get your email, Comcast, perhaps.

623
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,000
They are the ones that are supposed to deliver the email to you.

624
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,000
And they're basically not.

625
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,000
Sure.

626
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000
They're saying it's for spam.

627
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,000
But, you know, to some people, spam is desired.

628
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,000
And maybe that's something you still want to handle on the client end,

629
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000
actually when the email comes down to you.

630
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000
You have to be in continuous conversation about this stuff.

631
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Because without a doubt, I'd say most of it is wrong.

632
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Ah.

633
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Yes.

634
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000
Of course.

635
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,000
The network continues to grow.

636
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
I'd love this, too.

637
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Unfortunately, it's not a happy mood, doesn't it?

638
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000
Hello.

639
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,000
Coming to you from the Pod Show Network.

640
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000
It's the all-creator show with your hosts.

641
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Everyone's favorite, that Nurian, Dr. Lee, Quarbridge,

642
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000
and I'm his wife, Robin.

643
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,000
When you see an alligator in the wild in Florida, go the other way.

644
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Yeah, this is not a bad thing.

645
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,000
It's time for animal stuff where you have fun and learn something too.

646
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Animal sound of the week.

647
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000
Can you guess what it is?

648
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000
This is the breed of the week section.

649
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000
That was it.

650
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Uh-oh, uh-oh, pick me, pick me, pick me.

651
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Yeah.

652
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000
It would be really cool.

653
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000
It's animal trivia time.

654
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,000
This is the part where you get to see how much you really know.

655
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000
All critters were talking Robin.

656
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Everything animals from medical conditions to just chat.

657
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,000
We covered all.

658
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Have fun and learn something too.

659
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Find us at all critters.pot show.com.

660
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000
Hi, Adam. This is Doc.

661
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,000
Hi, and this is Robin.

662
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000
And we just wanted to say thank you for inviting us to join the Pod Show Network.

663
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,000
We're extremely excited to be a part of the Quit Your Day Job Group.

664
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000
We feel honored that you chose us,

665
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000
and we just wanted you to know that we appreciate it.

666
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000
We're looking forward to our long journey together.

667
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,000
Pod Show Rocks.

668
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000
It was still in the pinch me stage that we're a part of it.

669
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,000
We also wanted to say that we love the daily source code,

670
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000
and we're totally addicted to it.

671
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,000
Keep up the great work.

672
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Thanks again for having all critters on the Pod Show Network.

673
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000
And thanks for playing our promo.

674
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Hey, I wonder if Adam is trying to guess what animal sound that was.

675
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,000
Should we tell him?

676
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000
Nah, let's keep everyone guessing.

677
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Then we'll have to listen to the show.

678
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Animal sounds are so cool.

679
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000
To go line that with the animal trivia,

680
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000
a medical conditions we cover.

681
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000
We just wanted everyone to have fun and learn something too.

682
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,000
How critters experience it at all critters.podshow.com?

683
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000
I think it was a go for.

684
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000
I'm pretty sure of it.

685
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Hey, some interesting stuff going on in France.

686
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000
France is considering a law that gives consumers the right

687
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,000
to break digital rights management.

688
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Better known as DRM.

689
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
Just going to pull up the story here.

690
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
A couple people emailed this to me.

691
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000
I just want to tell you what the deal is.

692
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,000
This is pop up from silicon.com.

693
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,000
And here we go.

694
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000
A law currently making its way through French Parliament

695
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000
could see Apple's fair play DRM opened up.

696
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Now, this is the way that Apple protects all the songs

697
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000
that you purchase from iTunes and use on your iPod.

698
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Change it to the French Dwatt Delta copyright law.

699
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Currently being debated in Parliament

700
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000
are expected to be voted on this week.

701
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Among the changes, the controversial legislation

702
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,000
will bring in will be measures to effectively dismantle all types

703
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000
of digital rights management, including the technology

704
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,000
that prevent content from Apple's music stores being played

705
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000
on Microsoft devices and vice versa.

706
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Check this out.

707
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,000
The law will enshrine the right to interoperability

708
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000
between content and devices.

709
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Which, of course, is really a great idea.

710
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Effectively allowing consumers to break

711
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000
or otherwise circumvent DRM and play music

712
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000
on the MP3 player of their choice.

713
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000
This is really exciting stuff.

714
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000
In a recent parliamentary debate, Dominic Rishard

715
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000
a diputee from the UNP coalition described the law

716
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
as instituting interoperability

717
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000
that will stop content being the hostage of technology

718
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,000
and authorized creativity using free as in speech software.

719
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,000
The law will also overhaul the country's legal system

720
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
with regard to music piracy giving those convicted

721
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,000
of downloading-pired music a fixed 38-year-old fine

722
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000
and those convicted of illegally making music available

723
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000
for download a 150-year-old fine,

724
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000
which I think is probably much more in line

725
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000
with the value of what is being stolen

726
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
if someone steals music basically.

727
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000
So I think what's happening here is what they're saying

728
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,000
is you would be allowed to reencode

729
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000
something you bought off of iTunes for your iPod

730
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,000
into another open format if it's for personal use.

731
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,000
And of course this is very exciting.

732
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Who knows, what a thunket man coming from the French.

733
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,000
I think this is great.

734
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000
So let's keep our eye on that one

735
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,000
because it's definitely definitely something cool

736
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
going on in France when it comes to licensing

737
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000
and digital rights management.

738
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,000
And if you can break it there,

739
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,000
well, I guess you can break it to anywhere, can't you?

740
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000
Hey, I'm as Jay Mac from producer and webmaster slash

741
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000
whatever of the hoody.com show

742
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
calling you from warm Detroit.

743
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
I wanted to call and say thank you very, very much

744
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,000
for your continued support of the hoody.com show

745
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000
and our movement, everything we do

746
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000
and I really, really appreciate that.

747
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,000
And it's always good to hear that you're actually

748
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,000
listening to the show.

749
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000
I thank you for that.

750
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:48,000
So I'm also leaving this voice message

751
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,000
to ask you about pardon me in driving and kind of out there.

752
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,000
I wanted to ask you about licensing with ASK at BMI.

753
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,000
And I said you an email, but I don't expect to reply.

754
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,000
So I'm hoping this voice message will be even better.

755
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000
So here's my question.

756
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,000
We interview obviously some good artists,

757
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,000
some big artists in the industry of hip-hop.

758
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000
And it's getting better.

759
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,000
I mean, like coming up we have, you know,

760
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000
boss derirons was coming up in April and, you know,

761
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000
we're going to be interviewing TI and people like that.

762
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Some pretty big names, so I mean,

763
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,000
but the problem with it is is that a lot of these artists,

764
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,000
they don't really want to do the interview unless

765
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,000
you're going to be playing their music.

766
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
That's the whole reason they're doing the interview

767
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000
is for publicity.

768
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,000
So here's, you know, obviously here's my issue.

769
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,000
We want to be able to play some of their music

770
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000
and we don't want to necessarily play the entire track.

771
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000
I mean, we're cool with just playing

772
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000
their instrumental behind the interview

773
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,000
and then maybe playing a 10 or 15 or 20 second clip

774
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000
of their track after or during the interview as well,

775
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,000
like of one of their singles or biggest single or something like that.

776
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000
So, I mean, my question is, you know,

777
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,000
do you necessarily need a ASK at BMI license just to do that?

778
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000
I mean, because it doesn't seem necessary

779
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000
if you're not playing the whole song.

780
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,000
If the whole song can't be taken,

781
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000
then why should you get to pay a licensing fee?

782
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000
We're helping them promote their music.

783
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000
You know, I mean, it's a trade, you know,

784
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
it's a hit-for-tat type of thing.

785
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,000
So, I'm really curious to hear if there's a way around that.

786
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000
It's really frustrating.

787
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000
I mean, I actually talked to somebody over at ASKAP

788
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000
and the second I said podcast or internet,

789
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
they started getting skittish.

790
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000
They started weirding out and they don't want to talk about it

791
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
and you need licensing.

792
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000
You got a license.

793
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,000
You got a white license.

794
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
Internet license or whatever the fuck they call it.

795
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,000
You got to have internet license.

796
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000
You got to have it.

797
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,000
You got to have it.

798
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,000
You know, I read about it.

799
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,000
It's like $300 a year.

800
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
And then there's like a per-download fee,

801
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,000
which is bullshit to me.

802
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,000
So, there's got to be a way.

803
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,000
I will provide and read and you'll know the way

804
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,000
is to get the actual person who holds the master's

805
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
like the label or the artist to sign off.

806
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
I'm letting us play their track.

807
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000
You know, which is like, come on.

808
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000
I mean, in the mainstream industry, there's no record label

809
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,000
that's going to sign, you know,

810
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000
some sort of contract like that.

811
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,000
There's no way.

812
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000
You know, they're going to want to get the ASKAP

813
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,000
BMI fees.

814
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000
You know, if there's any to be had.

815
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,000
So, I'm hoping if there's anybody out there

816
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,000
or if you know the answer to this,

817
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000
I'd really appreciate it.

818
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000
And I'm hoping it works in our favor

819
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,000
because we really, really, really don't want to get

820
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000
a license through ASKAP to do this shit.

821
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:42,000
We'd really like to handle this without paying that money.

822
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,000
I mean, it's, we figured it's a fair trade

823
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,000
if we're promoting the artist.

824
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,000
We're getting, you know, we get to play a clip of their song

825
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,000
and play their voice on the show.

826
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,000
I mean, it's to trade off.

827
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,000
I don't know.

828
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000
Okay. So, he continues on a little bit

829
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000
and leaves his cell phone numbers.

830
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,000
So, I won't play that.

831
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,000
You know, this is a question that I get asked a lot.

832
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
And I'm not a lawyer, of course,

833
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
but the official answer is yes.

834
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,000
I mean, you need to have a license

835
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000
to be able to use any type of license music

836
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
through the RIA or otherwise

837
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
or if it's licensed through ASKAP BMI.

838
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,000
You have to have a license for the performance,

839
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000
which means you're basically using that

840
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000
as a part of your podcast.

841
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
And then just to cover all the bases

842
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000
because record companies, I think the lawyers

843
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000
are the record companies pretty much

844
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,000
feel that, you know, this is a mechanical distribution

845
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000
because you're actually downloading something

846
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000
and it's going on to a disc of some sort

847
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,000
so that the royalty has to be paid for that as well.

848
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000
So, you're right.

849
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,000
And the fees just don't make sense

850
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
because, you know, I was even looking at the UK,

851
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,000
MCPS, NPCS, PRS, whatever the combined license

852
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000
we talked about the other day.

853
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
And even though the licensing is now starting

854
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
to get worked out, you know,

855
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,000
and of course, that's to pay 12% of my gross profit.

856
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000
Yeah, do I got a blow job with that?

857
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,000
You know, you start looking at it

858
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,000
and then all those strictions

859
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000
and the money it's going to cost you to think,

860
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,000
oh, why won't I do it?

861
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Why won't I even promote that industry?

862
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,000
Now, of course, for hood hype,

863
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000
you know, it is great to talk to people

864
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,000
like Buster Rimes and, you know,

865
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,000
and they're always working with lots of independent talent.

866
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,000
And I think in reality,

867
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
if you interview them and you use 10,

868
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
15 seconds of a track, you know, behind him,

869
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000
I don't think anyone's going to sue you,

870
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,000
but they could, you know,

871
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000
so you're definitely taking a risk

872
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,000
and again, I will say to the record industry again.

873
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
This is the stupidest way

874
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000
to try and license your music.

875
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,000
It's not going to get you any value

876
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
because very few podcasts are kind of for it

877
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,000
and the ones that can,

878
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,000
I think most of them that can.

879
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000
I mean, I'd much rather promote

880
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000
Michael Butler, Matthew Ebel,

881
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,000
a lower clap or brother love.

882
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000
You know, these are, these are people

883
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
who do appreciate it,

884
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,000
and are trying to charge me

885
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,000
for the privilege of playing their music.

886
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000
You know, it's true that.

887
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,000
What you should do is have a special button in iTunes

888
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,000
or wherever you want to make your music available

889
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,000
for download.

890
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,000
And if someone is going to download it

891
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000
for use on a podcast,

892
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,000
charge them five bucks.

893
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000
You know, it's a one shot deal.

894
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000
There's plenty of songs.

895
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000
I would just love to play.

896
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000
And I bet you I would play a five dollar song

897
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,000
every single day.

898
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000
So what would that be?

899
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,000
150 bucks.

900
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,000
You're talking almost,

901
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000
probably around $2,000 a year,

902
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000
you would make for my show.

903
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000
You know,

904
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
let's talk about the hit test,

905
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000
which I would love to bring back.

906
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000
I'll pay for three.

907
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,000
So I'll pay 15 bucks for a hit test

908
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
to be able to put a hit test together.

909
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,000
You're not, of course, I will.

910
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,000
That's the way to do it.

911
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,000
I'm not going to give you 12% of the gross revenue

912
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000
of my show for that privilege

913
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000
for playing your back catalog.

914
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,000
So, and by the way, musicians,

915
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
you're the ones that should be revolting

916
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,000
against this stupid behavior

917
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,000
of your record companies,

918
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000
stupid, it's just stupid.

919
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000
Okay, a couple more pots

920
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,000
of music network things,

921
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,000
just as I said,

922
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000
to catch up on where we are

923
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,000
and some of the conversations

924
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
because by probably by this time next week,

925
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,000
we'll have our email registrations working fully

926
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,000
with the strong mail.

927
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000
So that means we'll be able to open up

928
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000
full sales across the network.

929
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Had some great conversations about this last night,

930
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,000
I was sitting with Chris Rockwell,

931
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Sue, Kevin, Matt Oliver, Richard Brueher,

932
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000
and we were really just shooting the shit

933
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,000
about all kinds of stuff and feeling

934
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
just feeling the love.

935
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,000
And the fact that we're going to be integrating

936
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,000
a lot of the Podsate Music Network

937
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,000
into the whole, you know, Pod Show Plus

938
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
or Pod Show PDN.

939
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000
So what all kind of have a very consistent look

940
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000
and feel everything all flow into each other

941
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
and, of course, Andrew Grumman is working on

942
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,000
API so that any other service

943
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000
will be able to integrate the Podsate Music Network

944
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,000
into their service as well.

945
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000
But I believe that,

946
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,000
well, we were talking about

947
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,000
actually opening up

948
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000
both the podcasting and listening side

949
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
of Pod Show, the network,

950
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,000
sometime next week.

951
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000
And I think we're ready.

952
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Now, of course, it'll be super beta

953
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000
because shit's just going to break

954
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
and shit does happen.

955
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000
But I also think we'll be able to,

956
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,000
show real fast growth every single, you know,

957
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000
day almost after that adding new features

958
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000
because we've just gotten to the point

959
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,000
where we're so far ahead with all the features

960
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,000
and things we want in there

961
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000
that if you look back to what our goals

962
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000
were for release,

963
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,000
I think we're there.

964
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,000
I really do.

965
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
And it's funny, you know,

966
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Ron and I were kind of like,

967
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,000
looking at the development team looking

968
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,000
for a signal from them to say,

969
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,000
okay, we're ready to release

970
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,000
and I think they were waiting

971
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,000
from a signal for us.

972
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,000
And somehow I felt that

973
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000
and that's what, that's what three

974
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,000
vodka martinis will do for you.

975
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,000
Really brings you closer down to reality

976
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,000
as what has to be done.

977
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000
So maybe Wednesday, maybe Wednesday.

978
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000
And this means that all kinds of shit

979
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,000
is going to be funky.

980
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,000
It's going to be broken all over the map.

981
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,000
But this is kind of how it works.

982
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,000
You know, this is the way

983
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
development is done these days.

984
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,000
You get something out there

985
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,000
and just keep improving it.

986
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,000
We'll keep the conversation going.

987
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,000
We'll do a lot of it through

988
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,000
the daily source code and other pod show

989
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,000
podcasts to get feedback.

990
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Already I've gotten several emails

991
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,000
and people saying, hey,

992
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,000
what's up with the funky URLs?

993
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Turn it back to the original way you used to do it.

994
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,000
No, I can't do that right now.

995
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,000
We're working on all of these aspects.

996
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Everything is, you know,

997
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,000
if we're trying to get it all

998
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
come together simultaneously.

999
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,000
We've got a huge promotion

1000
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,000
starting up a network wide

1001
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,000
with the single sponsor

1002
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000
that'll also and every single show

1003
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,000
that wants to is going to be involved in it.

1004
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,000
There's just a lot of goodness on the way.

1005
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
And as I said, a whole bunch of great improvements

1006
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
for the pod sake music network.

1007
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Adam, it's Russell from the Dark Matters podcast here.

1008
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Also from Brisbane Australia.

1009
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
So that's at least two of us here.

1010
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,000
So I think you're also a trip

1011
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,000
when you come down under.

1012
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,000
All right, mate.

1013
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
You know, I see you like my recommendation

1014
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,000
of Bob Ferry for DSC339

1015
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,000
and we must have similar tastes in music

1016
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,000
because I put out episode three

1017
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,000
of Dark Matters yesterday

1018
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,000
and I want to be held when I listen to

1019
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,000
DSC this morning.

1020
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,000
You had the same song

1021
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,000
Do the heavy mouth in heaven

1022
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,000
on episode three

1023
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,000
for eight of the Charlie.

1024
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,000
You know, and that is really coincidence.

1025
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,000
I mean, I listen to, as you know,

1026
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000
tons of podcasts and that's where I got

1027
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,000
a lot of inspiration,

1028
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,000
which of course is the whole point of the unlabel.

1029
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,000
You know, there is no central spot.

1030
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,000
So in this case,

1031
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,000
I didn't hear your show

1032
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,000
and I wasn't influenced by it,

1033
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,000
but I would probably

1034
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,000
was influenced by some other show.

1035
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,000
And that's how it works.

1036
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
You know, I'm continuously amazed

1037
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,000
at how many plays

1038
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000
some songs are getting on the PMN.

1039
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,000
I mean, it's in the thousands.

1040
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000
It's just, it's fantastic.

1041
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,000
You know, I thought I'd just ring up

1042
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,000
and let you know,

1043
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,000
I finally got around to trying out

1044
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,000
the click and buy purchase of

1045
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Putsay for Peace.

1046
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000
So I've been in Australian

1047
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,000
credit card holder.

1048
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000
I went through the click and buy process

1049
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,000
and because of the first time

1050
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
when I somehow missed putting

1051
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Australia in the country,

1052
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,000
which really mucked me up,

1053
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,000
I went back and tried again

1054
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,000
and when I got the details right,

1055
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,000
everything went through sweet.

1056
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000
So I never have

1057
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,000
my own purchased copy of

1058
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,000
Putsay for Peace

1059
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000
and Australian people

1060
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000
can use it successfully

1061
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,000
apparently.

1062
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,000
I don't know if they've improved

1063
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000
since the last listeners tried.

1064
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,000
That seems to be up and going there.

1065
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Just though you might like to know

1066
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,000
and if any of you listeners

1067
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,000
would like to visit my podcast,

1068
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,000
you can find it at

1069
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Astronomy.podcastfilmet.com

1070
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,000
and until next time,

1071
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,000
thanks guys.

1072
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,000
What kind of skies?

1073
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Dark skies.

1074
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000
That didn't say dark skies.

1075
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Yep.

1076
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,000
So just want to let you know

1077
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000
that it is working in Australia.

1078
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,000
But again,

1079
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,000
I think it does depend on

1080
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,000
the type of credit card or something

1081
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,000
that have been some

1082
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,000
funky results for some folks around the world.

1083
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,000
Oh, you know,

1084
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,000
I wasn't that hammer to remember

1085
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,000
last night.

1086
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Chris Rockwell was doing

1087
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,000
some of the math with me.

1088
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,000
And he says,

1089
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,000
So what if podshow

1090
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,000
would only make about

1091
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,000
four or five cents per song

1092
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,000
that was sold through the podset

1093
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,000
music network?

1094
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,000
He says,

1095
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,000
that doesn't seem like

1096
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,000
it's really worth it

1097
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000
and maybe we shouldn't even take

1098
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,000
that money at all.

1099
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Of course,

1100
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,000
which I said is,

1101
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000
oh great.

1102
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,000
So how about if we,

1103
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,000
if every song sold,

1104
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,000
we deduct four cents

1105
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,000
from your salary?

1106
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,000
And you know what?

1107
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,000
He said,

1108
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,000
yeah, no problem.

1109
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,000
I'll do it immediately.

1110
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,000
And so that caught my attention

1111
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,000
because I was just being

1112
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,000
facetious.

1113
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,000
But if you do the math

1114
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,000
and you think about

1115
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,000
if we were to sell

1116
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000
a million songs in a year,

1117
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,000
which I think would be quite

1118
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,000
a lot.

1119
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,000
That would be what?

1120
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,000
$40,000.

1121
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Because there's also taxes

1122
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000
that go into the purchase price

1123
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,000
and we want podcasters

1124
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,000
to be able to.

1125
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,000
They don't have to.

1126
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,000
They can donate it back to the band

1127
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,000
or wherever they want

1128
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,000
to be able to take

1129
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000
an affiliate fee.

1130
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000
And the more,

1131
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,000
the more I think about it,

1132
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,000
the more I think that he may be right.

1133
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,000
You know,

1134
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,000
maybe just having people

1135
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,000
sign up to the network

1136
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,000
is enough value

1137
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,000
for podshow.

1138
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,000
It's definitely something

1139
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,000
I'm going to discuss today

1140
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,000
at the office.

1141
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,000
And I do want to leave all

1142
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,000
options open.

1143
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,000
But you know, as we said,

1144
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,000
certainly during the whole

1145
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,000
date of period,

1146
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,000
which will be months,

1147
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,000
we're not taking a dime

1148
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,000
from any of this.

1149
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,000
We're just going to have

1150
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,000
the click and buy

1151
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,000
transaction fee,

1152
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,000
which is nine cents.

1153
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,000
And we do want to put the

1154
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,000
the affiliate,

1155
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,000
the affiliate stuff

1156
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,000
into place,

1157
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,000
which I think is already

1158
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,000
in there.

1159
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,000
And I guess the songs

1160
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,000
that you can now purchase

1161
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,000
as of today are American

1162
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,000
heartbreaking, including the new one

1163
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,000
that I played for you today.

1164
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Podsafe for Peace

1165
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000
and some Matthew Eble,

1166
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,000
so I'm Matthew Eble has been selling

1167
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,000
quite crazy.

1168
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000
I'm not at liberty to tell you,

1169
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,000
but he's sold,

1170
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,000
I really a significant amount

1171
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,000
of songs.

1172
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,000
It's definitely beer money,

1173
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,000
definitely beer money,

1174
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,000
very beer and some gas money.

1175
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,000
So extremely pleased to see

1176
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,000
that happening.

1177
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,000
A couple more things about

1178
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,000
PMN here.

1179
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Hi, Adam.

1180
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000
This is Tom from the

1181
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,000
fog view podcast.

1182
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000
I've been doing a few podcasts now

1183
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,000
and has some feedback

1184
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,000
for the Podsafe music network.

1185
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,000
The first couple items here

1186
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
were mentioned by listeners,

1187
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,000
a few shows back,

1188
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,000
but I think it bears repeating.

1189
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,000
The first one is to bring back

1190
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,000
the music ratings.

1191
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,000
I think that was a very useful

1192
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,000
feature.

1193
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,000
And I know it got replaced

1194
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,000
when you added the pay button,

1195
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,000
but it would be nice

1196
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,000
to be able to bring that back.

1197
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,000
You know, that's interesting

1198
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,000
that you say that.

1199
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000
It didn't really get replaced

1200
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,000
by the buy button.

1201
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,000
It did on the page,

1202
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000
but there was so much feedback,

1203
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,000
particularly from artists

1204
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000
who said they did not want

1205
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,000
the ratings feature there.

1206
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,000
And I have to agree with you

1207
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
that from a podcaster perspective

1208
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,000
and perhaps from a listener perspective,

1209
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000
I thought it was kind of handy

1210
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,000
because, you know,

1211
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,000
if I'm surfing through the

1212
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,000
PMN,

1213
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,000
it's at music.podshow.com,

1214
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,000
by the way.

1215
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,000
You know,

1216
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,000
and I'd find a song

1217
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,000
that maybe I'd like the sound

1218
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
of the voice or whatever.

1219
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
I'll click on the artist link

1220
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,000
or I'll go to the artist page

1221
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,000
and there would be,

1222
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,000
you know,

1223
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,000
definitely some feedback.

1224
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,000
And it either has all three stars,

1225
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,000
which I think,

1226
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,000
maybe that's part of the problem is

1227
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,000
you start off

1228
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,000
and you're always right in the middle of

1229
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,000
three stars.

1230
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,000
And some of them would actually

1231
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,000
have a higher rating

1232
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,000
and those would be the songs

1233
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,000
that listen to right up front.

1234
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,000
So maybe we take that out

1235
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,000
or maybe it's configurable

1236
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,000
or I don't know.

1237
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,000
But it's definitely something

1238
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,000
to think about.

1239
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,000
I'm not completely an agreement

1240
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,000
that they're gone in their entirety.

1241
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,000
So I think that,

1242
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,000
yeah,

1243
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,000
maybe the artist hated it

1244
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,000
because they don't like to be rated,

1245
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,000
which is another thing

1246
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,000
to take into consideration.

1247
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,000
But from a podcaster perspective,

1248
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,000
finding the song that you want

1249
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000
and having some form of feedback

1250
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,000
is important.

1251
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,000
Now,

1252
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,000
when we unleash the podshow

1253
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,000
and the podshow PDN,

1254
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,000
you're going to see that we do have

1255
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,000
some a lot of interactive pieces

1256
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,000
that we've put into place.

1257
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,000
So people can let their

1258
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,000
feelings and comments be known

1259
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,000
about podcasts,

1260
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,000
but also about other listeners.

1261
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,000
So you're going to see

1262
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,000
some integration of that

1263
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,000
into songs and artists.

1264
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,000
So it may not be the star's rating system,

1265
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,000
but we are bringing something back

1266
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,000
that I think you'll like

1267
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,000
and we'll satisfy your needs.

1268
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,000
Second is

1269
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,000
with more and more record companies

1270
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,000
uploading music.

1271
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,000
They're putting their name

1272
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,000
into the artist's field,

1273
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,000
and then they're forcing the song

1274
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,000
artist and title into the title field.

1275
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,000
In some cases,

1276
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,000
they're only putting the song title

1277
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,000
into the title field,

1278
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,000
which makes it very confusing.

1279
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,000
Yeah, yeah,

1280
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,000
you're right about that.

1281
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Another thing that will be solved.

1282
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,000
So labels,

1283
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,000
and of course,

1284
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,000
the concept of what is a label

1285
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,000
in the unlabel world,

1286
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000
will be able to have a collection of

1287
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,000
favorite artists.

1288
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,000
So actually,

1289
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,000
I could be a label.

1290
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Now that when we integrate

1291
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,000
all these pieces together,

1292
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,000
and I could say here are the

1293
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,000
ten artists that are on my label.

1294
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,000
Of course,

1295
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,000
don't really have a label,

1296
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,000
but they are artists

1297
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,000
that I'll play on my podcast.

1298
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000
They are artists

1299
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,000
that I want you to as a listener

1300
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,000
to my show to check out.

1301
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,000
And I'll also be helping

1302
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,000
to sell some of that music

1303
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,000
and as a podcaster,

1304
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,000
or as a listener

1305
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,000
who has a collection of artists

1306
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,000
and songs that you'll kind of

1307
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,000
call your label,

1308
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,000
you'll be able to participate

1309
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,000
in the proceeds of that.

1310
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,000
So that will also be solved,

1311
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,000
but not in the way you're seeing it today,

1312
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,000
but anyone will be able to be a label,

1313
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,000
which also means, of course,

1314
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,000
actual labels will have the same functionality.

1315
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,000
As if it can create another place

1316
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000
to put the record companies name done,

1317
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,000
and then use the artist

1318
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000
and title for what it's intended.

1319
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,000
The third one has to do with some

1320
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,000
strange song names, song titles.

1321
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,000
I see titles like Delete the song,

1322
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,000
I remove this file.

1323
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,000
And I think what's happening

1324
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
is that artists are trying to remove

1325
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,000
something from the network,

1326
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,000
not able to do it,

1327
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,000
and then they end up renaming it

1328
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,000
and hopes that somebody will go through

1329
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,000
and see that and remove it.

1330
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,000
So looks like that means it will be cleaned up.

1331
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,000
Yeah, you're right.

1332
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,000
And that's because it's very easy to upload a song,

1333
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,000
but not very easy to remove it,

1334
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000
which is kind of stupid on our part.

1335
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,000
So that, of course, will all be fixed.

1336
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,000
You'll be able to totally manage that.

1337
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,000
And I'm just going to skip over the last bit,

1338
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000
and the next comment actually,

1339
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000
because the next logical piece is the ID3 tags,

1340
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,000
and you know that the entire pod show,

1341
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,000
HQ, listens to the show,

1342
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,000
so they're already on it.

1343
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,000
When you upload a song,

1344
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,000
you will actually be forced to fill out

1345
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,000
a number of pieces of information of metadata,

1346
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,000
and those will be written into the ID3 tags,

1347
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000
if they're not already there,

1348
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,000
of each song uploaded,

1349
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000
so we'll have great ID3 tag information.

1350
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000
We'll have a much richer database of information.

1351
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000
Oh, we just hired this new guy,

1352
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
he's a search specialist.

1353
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,000
God, man, it's nice to have a search specialist

1354
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,000
in the house.

1355
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
So, sod just hit the ground,

1356
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
running, I think, this week,

1357
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,000
and we're going to have some great search opportunities,

1358
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
both for pod state music,

1359
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000
as well as for podcasts,

1360
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,000
really integrating the context

1361
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,000
and relevance of show notes.

1362
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,000
And obviously, also search on different users.

1363
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,000
So, that's all in the works.

1364
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,000
Now, let's see a couple more things

1365
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000
I just wanted to catch up on.

1366
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Thank you to everyone who sent in

1367
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,000
the information that the cube product

1368
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,000
that was talking about

1369
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,000
is part of the email tax solution,

1370
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,000
was the cobalt cube,

1371
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,000
and later they came out with the RAC, RAC cube.

1372
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
And of course, that was bought by son,

1373
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000
and I think it pretty much died

1374
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,000
a very short, effective death,

1375
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
because it was just way too cool

1376
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,000
and cutting into sons,

1377
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000
core business for some reason.

1378
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,000
So, thanks for that.

1379
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,000
Phil Walker, just a funny one here.

1380
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,000
He says, I'm listening to Chuck 350,

1381
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,000
and you're throwing the Roger Smalls MP3

1382
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,000
into the soundtrack.

1383
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,000
I leap up to answer my mobile phone

1384
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000
because it's got the Roger Smalls ringtone on it,

1385
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000
and then I realize it's the Charlie Pump

1386
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,000
and through the office speakers.

1387
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,000
So, I sit down and the bloody mobile

1388
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,000
fires up with Rogers again.

1389
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,000
Is it the phone or is it Adam?

1390
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Is it Roger?

1391
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,000
That's what you get in there

1392
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,000
and for using Roger Smalls is a ringtone.

1393
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,000
All right, final song for the day,

1394
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,000
and then I'm going to take a shower,

1395
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,000
get dressed and get ready to go to the shop.

1396
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000
I'm actually going to bring this up

1397
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,000
because this is a new addition, new entry,

1398
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000
it was put in,

1399
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,000
how can I can't find pods,

1400
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,000
if music network here is so long.

1401
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,000
You know what? I'll play the song

1402
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,000
and then I'll find the information.

1403
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,000
It's a Dutch band from the northern part

1404
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,000
of the Netherlands from Croningen.

1405
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,000
They call themselves Tunebone.

1406
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,000
And this is a real,

1407
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:27,000
very popular type of music in the Netherlands.

1408
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,000
You hear a lot of it more on the eastern side

1409
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,000
out towards Germany in what we call the back corner

1410
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,000
or the Achterhook,

1411
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,000
with dance like normal

1412
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,000
and you'll think it to food or beetles.

1413
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,000
And just whenever I hear a tune like this,

1414
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,000
it's such a combination of almost like Scandinavian influences,

1415
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,000
really heavy accents that only belong

1416
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,000
to the north or the eastern parts of the Netherlands,

1417
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,000
and just plain whole goddamn good rock and roll.

1418
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,000
I'll be the neck.

1419
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,000
This should wake you up.

1420
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Certainly doing it for me.

1421
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,000
I'll be the neck.

1422
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,000
I'll be the neck.

1423
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,000
I'll be the neck.

1424
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,000
I'll be the neck.

1425
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,000
I'll be the neck.

1426
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,000
I'll be the neck.

1427
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,000
I'll be the neck.

1428
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,000
I'll be the neck.

1429
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,000
I'll be the neck.

1430
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,000
I'll be the neck.

1431
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,000
I'll be the neck.

1432
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,000
I'll be the neck.

1433
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,000
I'll be the neck.

1434
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,000
I'll be the neck.

1435
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,000
I'll be the neck.

1436
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,000
I'll be the neck.

1437
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,000
I'll be the neck.

1438
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,000
I'll be the neck.

1439
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,000
I'll be the neck.

1440
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,000
I'll be the neck.

1441
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,000
I'll be the neck.

1442
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,000
I'll be the neck.

1443
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,000
I'll be the neck.

1444
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,000
I'll be the neck.

1445
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,000
I'll be the neck.

1446
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,000
I'll be the neck.

1447
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,000
I'll be the neck.

1448
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,000
I'll be the neck.

1449
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,000
I'll be the neck.

1450
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,000
I'll be the neck.

1451
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,000
I'll be the neck.

1452
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,000
I'll be the neck.

1453
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,000
I'll be the neck.

1454
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000
I'll be the neck.

1455
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,000
I'll be the neck.

1456
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,000
I'll be the neck.

1457
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,000
I'll be the neck.

1458
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,000
I'll be the neck.

1459
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,000
I'll be the neck.

1460
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,000
I'll be the neck.

1461
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,000
I'll be the neck.

1462
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,000
I'll be the neck.

1463
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,000
I'll be the neck.

1464
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,000
I'll be the neck.

1465
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,000
I'll be the neck.

1466
00:58:03,000 --> 01:00:15,160
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1467
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:26,400
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1468
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:31,400
Once you don't live there anymore, I really do like the songs that these guys do.

1469
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,900
And as I said, there's a couple of bands in Holland that do it.

1470
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:38,400
They never get mainstream radio or rarely get mainstream radio aeroplane.

1471
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,400
And if it is, maybe it's one song a year or something that'll make it into the charge.

1472
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,400
So happy to share that one with you.

1473
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,400
Okay, it is light outside now.

1474
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,400
I don't think it's going to be a very nice day.

1475
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,400
I see no sun coming up over the bay.

1476
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,400
I just see clouds and concrete.

1477
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,400
So nice show, damn, over an hour.

1478
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,400
All right, we'll see what happens tomorrow.

1479
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,400
You know, Cali Lewis is going to be up here in San Francisco.

1480
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,400
We might be doing some video stuff together.

1481
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,400
There's always people stopping by.

1482
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,400
There's still a chance that we might be going to South by Southwest.

1483
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,400
I mean, I don't know what's happening.

1484
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,400
I'll let you know tomorrow.

1485
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,400
And hopefully you'll be back then.

1486
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,400
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1487
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,400
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1488
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,400
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1489
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,400
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1490
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,400
See tomorrow.

1491
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,400
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1492
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,400
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1493
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,400
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1494
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,400
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1495
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:44,400
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1496
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,400
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1497
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,400
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1498
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,400
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1499
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,400
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