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Hello, I'm Adam Curry.

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Come listen to my show.

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Call that Damie Thorst code!

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And if you want to find out what's going on in Pod Castan,

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right now, then come on over.

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Cause I am the master.

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Pod Caster.

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That same sturdy.

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Is that dirty, Peed Up?

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That same too, dirty.

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With $16 million worth of airplane strapped to my ass.

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Transmidders?

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In the next generation radio content in my ears.

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We don't need nuss.

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I like to think I'm flying.

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If you want to...

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Pod Castan, it's Adam Curry.

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The places you never ever been before.

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It's another one of those songs, man.

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Just can't get it out of my head.

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It has a combination of so many different things.

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I really like it.

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Pretty, pretty song.

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It's from New Leaf.

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Song is titled Magic Carpet.

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Now, guess where they come from.

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Nope.

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They come from Sweden.

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That's right.

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And I didn't actually realize that until I just pulled up the page on the podcast of music.

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Now, where I tagged it a long time ago, my playlist to play.

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There you go.

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Loving it from music.podshow.com.

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Well, good afternoon or good morning, everybody.

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Probably good afternoon where you're listening to this show right now because it's a little bit later than normal.

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This morning after dropping Christina off at school, I jetted back to the cottage.

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Immediately begged Patricia to do my hair because I had a meeting in London.

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Which is actually quite convenient.

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I was so surprised.

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I was able, you know, I was back.

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And the reason for that, of course, is that, you know, there's not, not often that you get an opportunity to sit with the top brass twice in quick succession.

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So I felt it was more than warranted to despite all the packing and the last minute stuff we're doing.

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And of course, I do have double days here.

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So this all fits into the pre San Francisco awakening hours.

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And I was back.

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I was back sitting in the big green ugly chair, which, for those of you who have been listening to the show since the curry castle days,

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the big old green ugly thing just went right along with me.

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I still, you can sit still my recliner.

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And I was sitting here about like 230.

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It was fantastic.

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Actually, I was back at the station at 130.

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The car was waiting for me 145.

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I was home.

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It did not a nice day.

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So I'm looking forward to leaving.

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As you know, we're going to Portugal to the Algarve.

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And we leave tomorrow.

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I will put up a thank God.

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It's Friday show just to get us a whole new mood, of course.

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And after that, we're at a here.

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So I can't say too much about the B.T. meeting, but you pay podcasters.

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Doing stuff for you guys here.

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Thanks for all getting touched with me.

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I was at the Guardian Media Conference, the Changing Media Summit.

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There's like, you know, one podcaster.

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It's okay.

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That's fine.

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Just don't complain that we're not doing anything when we get it all rolling.

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Lots of stuff going on.

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Plenty of stuff in the form of feedback.

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It sounds like this.

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It's listener Jeff.

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And looking on dig today.

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And there's this huge set of comments about this.

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A ledge, podshow contract on the Keith and the girl podcast.

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I really don't believe the things that people are saying.

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And since there's nothing that I can actually read.

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I don't know who's blown smoke out of who's asked or what.

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Is this legit?

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Is it complete total BS made for fun?

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And you're just having, they're just pulling shots at you.

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Or what's going on?

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Well, obviously our response was all taking everything kind of ingest.

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It's amazing how creative people can be when insulting me.

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It never ceases.

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It never ceases to amaze me.

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Let me set a couple things very straight.

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First of all, podshow is not an ad network.

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That's the big disconnect here.

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We are not an ad insertion company where we do a revenue split and publish everything up front

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with the contracts and the agreements.

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Now, that's stuff that podtrack and keep trying.

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And man, I'm trying to think of a couple more.

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Podtrack, keep trying.

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There's more.

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Send me which actually have a list of which ones there are.

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These guys, they state their information publicly because they're like ad cents.

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This is very typical of where I think the podcast and community is turning left

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and we should be turning right.

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You know, the Google Adsense model, go look at your check.

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Tell me how big it is.

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Because that's probably going to be about the size of your check if you use these types

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of ad insertion networks.

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And the whole point there is that advertisers show up themselves.

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And oh, not a lot of all of them I have to say.

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But it's, you know, they publish a rate card.

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and it says they have approximately 257,000 downloads in a month, which is good.

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I have to say, but hey, no, don't and Drew.

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They would actually be doing pretty good.

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The so-called CPM?

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I think that's the wrong way to go.

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What Pod show does is we market the relationship

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between the podcast or the pod, the proofs of the podcast and their audience,

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which we find far more valuable than $67 per 1000 downloads.

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So, we don't have any contracts like that.

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So, we're not going to publish anything.

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We don't discuss our private contracts with the podcasters that have joined the network.

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it's not just signing of a contract.

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There's a whole discussion.

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There's a contacts.

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There's an often trips to the office, so we can discuss things.

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How do we build the future for a podcaster?

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What can the network provide for you?

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What type of advertisers are we looking at?

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What kind of promotions?

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How do we drive listeners?

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And that's really the key point that I want to make.

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The insults that are flying around is that...

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And it's not even Pod show.

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It's me personally.

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That's the funniest thing that I love reading it.

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That I'm raping podcasters for my own benefit.

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Yeah, you clearly misunderstand.

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Pod show, as we've said from day one, is about listeners.

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We're about getting the audience in, okay?

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And audience comes for several different reasons.

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But that connection is what we're making.

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We're not going out there trying to snap up as many podcasters.

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We can't even... it's not scalable the way we're doing it.

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We're creating a network of shows that we feel will draw an audience

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and the audience will not be disappointed when they come to podshow.com

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and try out that podcasting thing.

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So now, of course, I'm not going to discuss any contracts.

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then I suggest you talk to a lawyer

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and don't take your advice from Keith and the girl.

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That being said, with the, you know, standing on one leg

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and praising Murphy and all that stuff,

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we're hoping to go public beta with podshow plus and the pdn,

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the podshow delivery network around...

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but I'll just say, let's take the worst day in our lives,

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which would be April 15th, tax day.

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By then, we should have it up and rolling,

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and there will be multiple levels.

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And for people who just want to come in and use the network

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and don't want to join the podshow family,

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that we plenty of opportunity for you.

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All kinds of you can even pay for it

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and just take the services with no advertising whatsoever.

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Those, of course, will be published.

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So that's about all I really have to say about it.

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And it's just, again, amazing.

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Amazing how creative the insults have gotten.

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Hey Adam, this is Chris from the Financial Aid podcast

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with some audio feedback about taking people's names into vain.

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From the Buddhist perspective, which is the perspective I associate

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with the most, there are three general reasons why you shouldn't do this.

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None of which actually have to do with respect.

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The first is taking people, the names that people are taking into vain

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You know what, let me just set this up.

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If you haven't heard the previous episodes,

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this started with Steve Web of the Life Spring podcast

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who respectfully asked me to not use Jesus Christ in a derogatory way.

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Which I totally understand, I'm trying to respect.

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Not just for Steve Web, but for other listeners of my show.

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I don't care about anyone else.

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Listen to some more.

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The ability to switch between your ordinary everyday mind and the mind

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that is focused on spiritual practice is very, very difficult to combine.

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It's kind of like warm-ups before concert.

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You make the transition from everyday mind to empowered mind.

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profane, you dilute the power.

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In Buddhism, we reserve power words and names for times when they'll do us the most good.

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Using the amount of context, it's like a police officer firing warning shots.

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They're loud and all, but if he needs those both to save his life, he should

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out of luck.

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Second, you actually have proven this more than anything with this and say

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or burping.

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In addition to power dilution, if you consistently use any deities name and

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link it to negative experiences, the guess what?

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Until you're.

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That is so incredibly true.

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Some socios, psychological aspects of this that I hadn't really thought about before,

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but believe me, I know where all this came from.

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I know where that negative association came from.

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It is from my parents.

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Practice is not a labor powerless from pointless repetition.

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All my parents don't mind.

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Actually disempowering as using the name of your spiritual practice,

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starts to conjure up all the bad stuff in your work day or whatever with your

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Everything that hurts everything that's gone wrong with your life is associated to this

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It's so disempowering.

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Above and beyond any context associated with them.

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a sound that is so powerful that it has meaning, whether or not you understand it,

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whether or not you believe in it.

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Invoking these sounds with intention, focus and power can have awesome effects.

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awesome effects, but they usually negative ones.

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Consider the sound, ah, it's the first son you make as a baby.

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It's the sound you make as you fight for your life.

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It's the sound you make at the peak of orgasm.

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Hold on.

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Is that the sound you make at peak of orgasm?

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Uh, dude.

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Not rolling out the snake for you.

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The last sound that passes your lips is the force of life fades from your body.

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It's universal to all of us, and it's a noomestake that in alphabet.

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A or A, if you French, is the first letter.

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God, Allah, Yahweh, Brahma, Kanon, Avalo, Katasura, Shiva.

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In Arimek, Jesus Christ is Yeshua, which stems from the biblical Hebrew, Yahosua.

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Christ, of course, comes from Greek.

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In his time, the role of the Messiah, the name of the Messiah, would have been pronounced to

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Mosjak.

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Taking power words and names and veins, again, sticking your finger in a wall socket.

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You're tapping into tremendous power that you have no idea how to channel properly.

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And as a result, you'll probably fry yourself.

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Not to mention caught off any chances you have for enlightenment or salvation.

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Whatever it is that is important to you.

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Respect is important, but at least from my point of view.

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A prohibition against taking power words and flinging them around,

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mostly has far more drastic consequences for you and for the people around you.

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So, some audio feedback from the financial aid podcast has nothing to do with financial aid.

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Check us out at financialadpodcast.com and thanks a lot Adam.

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No man, thank you, I appreciate it.

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That's interesting.

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All those A words.

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Very cool.

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And something to think about.

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And there's some lessons in what you just said that I want to process,

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but perhaps we can start making some other associations or using that power for good.

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A names like Aerowana.

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The god I pray to you.

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Adam, I just was listening.

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DSC number 362.

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And her manges answer to your golden ticket.

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I don't know if you noticed or if you did it on purpose,

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but immediately after she makes the comment about what she's going to do for you,

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then you have the earthling fairies come on and ask,

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do you believe in anything's possible?

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That's it.

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Can I clear up?

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Wanted to drop you a quick comment.

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Yeah, you don't think that was intentional to you.

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Man, that stuff gets lined up in Cas Blaster and it's green to go.

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So yesterday we launched the first golden ticket.

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I'm going to tell you just briefly again what that is.

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We have this technology we've built called D-Gap.

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The dynamic generated asset placement,

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which means we can put stuff into our podcast on the network,

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which of course could be tags at the front of a podcast,

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which is most of the ones that the network now have,

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talking about GoDaddy.

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Or we can randomly insert them based upon odds,

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where I think at a one to 25,000 ratio now on the golden ticket test.

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So that somewhere in the podcast,

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in fact, I'm going to note the time down right now,

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because if you're listening and the next words are congratulations,

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then you won.

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Okay, I just want to write down that time code.

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There we go.

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So if you didn't, if you just heard me writing something down,

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then you lost, because we're going to do it again today.

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So here's how it works.

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I am taking that exact moment in the podcast.

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I'm going to add that into our D-Gap system.

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And one listener will receive a different daily source code,

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which will have those actual words,

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which will have a separate set of words inserted,

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which I pre-recorded and is on the D-Gap server as well.

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Now, we've set the odds to 125,000.

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So that's your actual chance of pulling out the golden ticket.

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Yesterday, we served the golden ticket.

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We know kind of where the person was who received the ticket,

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and we know that they were using a juice receiver to receive the ticket,

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but they haven't checked in yet.

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So the thought mistake I made here is,

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well, sometimes people are a day behind,

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or maybe three days behind, or maybe they didn't listen at all.

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So obviously, when we roll out golden ticket promotions on a full scale,

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we'll have to lower the odds a little bit,

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or we'll have to figure something out.

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But it is kind of cool.

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It forces you to listen if you want to win.

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And boy, where there are lots of people trying to hack in

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and scam the system.

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That was pretty amazing.

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I mean, feel free to do whatever you want to.

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It doesn't really matter.

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This is just a test.

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It's not an official contest,

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but I want to do it again today.

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I have two people who have a golden ticket.

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Remember, it's for that AV.

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Was it the Keystone?

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I hope it's the Keystone.

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Thing is the Keystone AV.

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iPod.

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Doc and remote.

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Our F remote is what it is.

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It's a nice little Chatsky.

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That's not the point.

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So there will be another one going out today.

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And so hopefully we'll hear from the new winner,

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or from the previous winner, or perhaps from both.

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Of course, we'll be happy to shell out both prizes.

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But in the future.

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And by the way, it's very possible that it didn't work.

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That's another thing that Andrew and I, Andrew Grumman,

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and I are taking into account that maybe it didn't get inserted

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properly, although from everything we can see it did.

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In the future, I think the way it will work is we'll have golden ticket

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promotional weeks or weekends or whatever.

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And then any podcast you listen to on the pod show podcast.

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Now, we're could have the golden ticket inserted.

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And it could be multiple.

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So we're really working on this.

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And this again, this is why I like the daily source code.

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We can mess around and test stuff and try and break it.

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And so if you want to try and hack it again, that's okay.

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It doesn't matter.

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If you hack it and you win, you win, right?

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But obviously we have a lot of strategies and ideas to make that

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much more difficult.

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The whole concept of registered listeners will make that much easier,

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obviously.

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So if you receive that golden ticket, you got the message.

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Make sure you do as instructed to claim your prize.

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And I'm looking forward to talking to one, or perhaps two winners.

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Are you ready or rock?

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This is the story.

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I'm a rock and low, but let's rock.

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This is it.

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My goal, but let's rock and roll geek show.

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The hands down.

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Cool.

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Rock podcast online.

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Hosted by the world's number one.

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Rock and roll geek.

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American Heartbreaker.

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Michael Butler.

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So crank it up.

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And get that.

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With some of the craze, rock and roll.

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For the San Francisco.

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We're all the geeks rock.

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And rock lives off.

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This is your rock and roll geek show.

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With Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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When you can listen to the future.

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Hi Adam.

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This is Chris Future.

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With the Think Future Radio Show.

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Happy to be the newest member of the Pot Show family.

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Thanks for taking me on.

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You know when I first started podcasting a year ago, I knew something was missing.

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Kick ass, take no prisoners political rant radio.

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Sure, there's probably a bit out there, but hardly any in the podcast world.

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This is one of the reasons I started a Think Future Radio Show.

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What's it all about?

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Well, I'm a political commentator.

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I'm libertarians of both sides hate me equally.

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And I'm also into giving a voice and power and freedom to the people.

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What else do I talk about?

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Well, pretty much every goddamn thing under the sun.

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Current events, politics, Hillary.

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It's going to be the next president of the United States.

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Crazy ass drivers.

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I want to know what you're going to fucking do.

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Use your goddamn signal lights.

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That's what they're there for.

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Stupid people.

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Fucking spits in home depot.

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Or even how to cook a perfect turkey.

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Blining.

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You never know what you're going to get.

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Every weekday, I'm a Think Future Radio Show.

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Now, part of the Pot Show network.

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Thanks again, Adam.

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No, Chris.

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Thank you.

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Welcome to La Familia, my friend.

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And nice meeting you the other day at the Pot Show HQ.

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If you're checking us out on Serious Stars 102,

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don't forget to listen to Digital Flotsom tonight at 9 o'clock.

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Mr. and PCH is next.

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We'll be back here tomorrow with a thank God.

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It's Friday edition.

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Oh, the show.

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Shit couldn't fit that one in.

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Sorry about it.

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I didn't have time to play my satellite repair managing.

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Oh, I love hearing it so much.

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By the way, if you.

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Peter.

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What is going on outside?

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Oh, that's inside.

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I'm sorry.

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It's this cleaning of the cottage day.

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Peter abused his own go daddy code to the set-up satellite repairman.com.

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That's real easy to remember isn't I don't know how you spell satellite.

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S-A-T-E-L-L-I-T-E.

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Satellite repairman.com will take you to digitalflotsom.org.

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Something just.

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Man, that is a lot of noise isn't it?

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I hate that.

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Something else I was going to say.

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Okay, I don't remember.

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It is really time for vacation, my friends.

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Hi, Adam Curry.

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Oh, no, no, no, no.

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We can't just start them off like that.

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I'm so sorry, CSB.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Hi, Adam Curry.

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Enter the middle of April.

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It means until the 50s April.

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I will not be sending to you any more audio comments.

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And by then, I will not be posting any comments on your blog.

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You are going to holiday to beautiful Portugal, so you deserve some tranquility.

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Speaking of Portugal, I would be grateful if you could plaque this message to Netherlands

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because the time of decision is right now, exactly now.

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Dear Netherlands, please take example from Portugal and some other EU countries

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and open yourself for new EU citizens from Eastern Europe.

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This will be good also for economy of Netherlands.

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Please, with sugar and marshmallows on top.

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So, Adam Curry have a nice holiday and don't do any podcasts or video casts while on holiday.

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Enjoy your gals, some other gals, enjoy the sea and just take time off without podcasting.

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Bye.

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Oh, comic strip blogger.

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That's so nice of you.

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Man, what's happening?

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You know, the CSB has really got, you know, he really knows what's going on in the European Union.

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I do like it when he sends me something that's useful in that regard because there is a lot of weird stuff going on.

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You know, if you compare the EU, the European Union to the United States,

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which of course was the entire idea to create one monetary unit to create a single union.

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There's all these problems at the local level.

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I mean, just imagine that, you know, you could not go from one state to the next state

508
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000
or from New York to Connecticut.

509
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Yeah, you could go there to visit, but you couldn't actually work there.

510
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000
You know, there's all kinds of things that are happening.

511
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
And comic strip blogger really is on top of it.

512
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,000
So, appreciate it.

513
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,000
I am taking along some equipment, not a full mobile set.

514
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,000
I'll take along cast blaster and the wireless love mic just in case,

515
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000
well, this case is something that we want to do.

516
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:56,000
And of course, I'm taking along my video camera for, you know, our own vacation stuff and pictures, etc.

517
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,000
So, I'm sure that, you know, in the 10 days there's no way I can stay offline.

518
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,000
And, you know, I have to get online at least once a day to empty out my freaking Gmail.

519
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,000
God damn, you know, they're coming out with that, with that corporate Gmail,

520
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000
where you can use your own domain name, etc.

521
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,000
I'm hoping, what it comes with now comes standard with two gigs per account.

522
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,000
I'm hoping that since it is a corporate service, that's,

523
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000
God, what is that noise?

524
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000
It's pissing me off.

525
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000
Soundproof the studio now?

526
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,000
I'm hoping that I'll be able to buy more space when that becomes fully available.

527
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000
I've signed up for the day-to-now and,

528
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000
God, that is so annoying isn't it?

529
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,000
It's really distracting me.

530
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000
Okay, so going on vacation won't be doing podcasts.

531
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Yesterday, a great idea was thrown up,

532
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000
it was thrown into the discussion about the box,

533
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,000
B.O.C.S. Bravo Oscar Charlie.

534
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000
In other words, the best of Charlie.

535
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
Hey Adam, it's listener Jim again.

536
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Hey, I just got back in Hong Kong from a couple days in China.

537
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,000
It's now 1230 in the morning on Thursday,

538
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,000
and caught up on the Charlie 361 and part of 362.

539
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,000
I'm glad to hear that you played my comment about the box,

540
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000
and I'm really excited about Ellie's proposal to have the listeners generate that,

541
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000
I think it's a great idea.

542
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
I'm not a position to start creating any podcasts yet.

543
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
I haven't even got my own off the ground.

544
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,000
But I do have some ideas that some of the other podcasters

545
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000
that listeners out there might want to take and run with.

546
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,000
One would be a show dedicated to FAQ.

547
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Another would be a show dedicated to the birth of Trinity,

548
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000
and I think a couple of the funniest ones could be shows dedicated to feedback

549
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,000
from Madge or even better yet feedback from comic strip blogger.

550
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Anyway, there's a few ideas.

551
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,000
Again, have a great vacation.

552
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Look forward to hearing what your listeners come up with.

553
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
I think it will do make great shows.

554
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Well, Julie soon.

555
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,000
Let me tell you, man, that already I've received three

556
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
of Bravo Oscar Charlie's.

557
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,000
Three of them this morning.

558
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000
Just since that one thing, that one comment,

559
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000
the one discussion we had yesterday,

560
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,000
I really, I can't tell you how blown away I am by that.

561
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000
And how much I appreciated.

562
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,000
So I need four more, and anyone who sends that in,

563
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000
I'll make sure you get a nice bag of podshow,

564
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000
swag, t-shirts, and crap, and what have you.

565
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Sam Levin will put some crap together.

566
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
It'll be nice and that you'll enjoy.

567
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000
And I really, really appreciate the whole thought.

568
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Great idea.

569
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,000
And it's unfortunate that we don't have the full PDN up in rolling,

570
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,000
because you can put shows up for delivery at a certain day,

571
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000
or a certain time.

572
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000
So I'm going to preload all those,

573
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000
but it really would be before the launch.

574
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
So we have to figure out some way to be posting those shows,

575
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,000
while I'm, excuse me, I'm not even drinking a sense say,

576
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:46,000
oh, I don't know with, oh, heartburn, gastronomic issues.

577
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,000
But yeah, we got, we got some great, great shows,

578
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000
and it's just blown me away.

579
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Hey Adam, Jim again.

580
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,000
One more show idea that you've got to include

581
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000
is a show dedicated to Roger Small.

582
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Maybe even Roger could host that show.

583
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Boy, that would be great to hear him talking about his own comments.

584
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,000
And what was going on in his mind when he actually made the calls to you.

585
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000
Yeah, really.

586
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Anyway, this whole idea of listener generated shows gave me

587
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,000
one more thing to think about.

588
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000
You've already admitted that 70% of your show

589
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,000
or more comes from listener generated input.

590
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,000
Well, if you now have listeners that are editing and preparing your shows,

591
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,000
you may just be able to quit your quit your day job job.

592
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Imagine that sitting around getting paid

593
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000
for preparing shows that you don't prepare

594
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000
with content that you don't make.

595
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000
Boy, now that's my idea of hitting a lot of.

596
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Take care.

597
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Talk to you soon.

598
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000
I love that.

599
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,000
That would be, now, when we get to that point,

600
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,000
that's when I can just slowly fade to black.

601
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,000
Wouldn't that be nice?

602
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Great idea, man.

603
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,000
Love it.

604
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Take the dudes and do debts, but dudes.

605
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Have you seen the most recent soccer girl video?

606
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000
You know, the soccer girl, of course,

607
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000
part of the podcast network.

608
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,000
And she's also a part of the one message,

609
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000
one brand many voices campaign for Go Daddy.

610
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,000
Just around you, the end of her most recent video.

611
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000
She has a very interesting way of,

612
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,000
remember now, what we're doing here is we're leaving all of the creative

613
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000
advertising up to the podcasts as themselves,

614
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000
because only they know how to communicate with their audience.

615
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000
And soccer girl definitely is onto what her audience wants.

616
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000
I suggest you take a look at it.

617
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,000
It's certainly not family or kids safe, but very, very funny.

618
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,000
And by the way, soccer girl, I think I'd like to rent that space

619
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
myself in the near future.

620
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,000
I think it's very, very valuable.

621
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000
And I just want, I wrote this down.

622
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000
I wanted to talk to about this for a couple of days now,

623
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000
because I guess it's kind of subsided in the world press,

624
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,000
but there's still a lot of crap going on in France.

625
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,000
And there's a lot of riots and burnings of cars,

626
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000
and people getting beaten into the hospital.

627
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000
And I just wanted to tell you what this was about,

628
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000
because I find it fascinating.

629
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,000
There was a law that was proposed.

630
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Now, I'm not sure, I'm sure comics are blogger.

631
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000
We'll put in the comments the exact details.

632
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,000
From what I understand, the government, either wanted to

633
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,000
or pass the law that made the hiring,

634
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,000
but particularly the firing of employees much easier.

635
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,000
And much easier for young people to get fired.

636
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Now, that, of course, is the way it's being portrayed,

637
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000
but really what it is.

638
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000
The relaxation on the employment rules.

639
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000
Now, in the United States certainly,

640
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and I believe in the United Kingdom,

641
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,000
the fire at any moment for pretty much any reason.

642
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000
I think this is a good thing.

643
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,000
And this is a totally an American viewpoint,

644
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,000
but this is coming from an entrepreneur

645
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,000
who is also set up companies in other countries.

646
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
The Netherlands is one.

647
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,000
And in the Netherlands, when you're hired,

648
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a couple of things happen.

649
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000
First of all, guaranteed benefits, which is great.

650
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000
You don't get that in many other countries.

651
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
You don't get that necessarily in the United States.

652
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000
By the way, at Pod Show, you do.

653
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,000
And I must say, many of our podcasters also receive similar benefits.

654
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,000
That you get right off the bat.

655
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Then you get something called the 13th month,

656
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,000
which is automatic, which means as an employer,

657
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,000
you have to pay all of your employees an extra month salary.

658
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000
Not for working just because that's the law.

659
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
And then you have vacation money.

660
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,000
And you can't fire anyone.

661
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,000
Even with just cause, you have to buy them out.

662
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000
And usually, there's a whole formula for it,

663
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000
but you have to take them to court, and it's very, very difficult.

664
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,000
But what this breeds is laziness.

665
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,000
And I have seen this in every single one of my companies.

666
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,000
Because once people are in, they're like, OK.

667
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,000
I got a job.

668
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Now, I'm set.

669
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000
You know, they come in at five after nine.

670
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000
They have the code on at five minutes to five.

671
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000
You know, they, oh, I don't feel good today.

672
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000
I'll just stay home.

673
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Very, very, very difficult to operate a business.

674
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
And if someone just isn't working out.

675
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,000
I'm sorry.

676
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,000
You have to leave.

677
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Now, of course, what happens is you can hire people on a short-term contract basis.

678
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000
And this is the really bad thing.

679
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,000
His company's hire young people for a two or three month contract.

680
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
And then they, they say, OK, let's get into your contract.

681
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000
I think you can do it twice.

682
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000
So in total, maybe for six months.

683
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000
But it's a horrible, horrible system.

684
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Now, the contrarian view, of course, as Europeans will often say, or say,

685
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000
they've said to me, well, yeah, but you know, you use this fear.

686
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
And everyone's afraid of getting fired.

687
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:49,000
And I was, you know, never in my life have I ever threatened or had to threaten anyone

688
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000
with being fired.

689
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
In fact, I think you'll find in the US that it's,

690
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
it's so cultural that it's not fear.

691
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
It's just people want to do a good job.

692
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,000
You know, and they put in the work because they're excited about it.

693
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
Now, there's also lots of incentives at Pod Show.

694
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,000
There's, you know, there's stock incentives and ownership of the company and, you know,

695
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,000
all kinds of things that we do.

696
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,000
But now, here are these kids that are rioting in France because they are not

697
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,000
being given the security that they expect from a welfare state.

698
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,000
The very careful United States have ever tried to integrate this.

699
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000
I mean, I'm all from medical benefits, and I wish we could figure that out.

700
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:33,000
And, you know, on a company by company basis, it's either good or bad, essentially.

701
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,000
But wow, I can't believe that this is what they're fighting about, you know,

702
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:42,000
instead of going out and getting a fucking job, you know, or work, you know, trying to get a job.

703
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
You know, no, we're just going to go riot because it's not what we deserve.

704
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
And this is this whole welfare state, man.

705
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,000
It's like, I hear people in Europe all the time talk about what they feel they deserve.

706
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,000
And, you know, this happened and I deserve compensation.

707
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000
So France gets your act together.

708
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000
People of France, I just say, please get your act together.

709
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Just, you know, find, do something more productive than this.

710
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Okay.

711
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,000
I don't know if that came out right, but I think you kind of understand what I'm talking about.

712
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000
Hey, a couple more things before we wrap it up for today.

713
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000
Hi, Adam, this is Peter from Internet Communicators.

714
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000
And I like to comment on something you were talking about in 3601,

715
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:25,000
the Charlie 3601 about part two mob and the way that they tried to get to put

716
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,000
advertising stuff in front of your podcast.

717
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000
We at Internet Communicators developed a portal,

718
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000
site called part promo station.

719
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,000
You can find that part promo station dot com where you can find

720
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,000
podcasts where you can listen to podcasts where you can see some sort of a visual

721
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,000
that belongs to that podcast where you can download the podcast where you can subscribe

722
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000
or you can see websites anything.

723
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,000
And we are seriously thinking about putting ads on that website.

724
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Visual ads, not audio ads, visual ads like banner stuff like that.

725
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:05,000
And, well, you know, I don't see that much of a difference between ads on a website

726
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,000
and yes, that are in front of a mobile service like the part two mob guys did.

727
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,000
So I like to have your opinion on that because I don't want to get sued by the

728
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,000
part father himself.

729
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000
Never.

730
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,000
I don't think that's a very good idea.

731
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,000
I don't have that much money.

732
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,000
I can tell you that.

733
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,000
Okay, thank you for your time and I'm looking forward to your comment on our

734
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,000
comment and I hope to speak to you later.

735
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Goodbye.

736
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,000
Well, okay, that's very, and there's quite a healthy

737
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,000
conversation going on about this.

738
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,000
I think the easiest way to test your theory is why don't you take

739
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,000
a podcast from a mainstream media company.

740
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,000
So take one from clear channel has lots of the audio podcast and you could probably

741
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,000
get one from NPR and why don't you start putting ads in front of that.

742
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000
And then see what and then let them know that you're doing it and give them your

743
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000
theory and then see what happens.

744
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Because it ain't going to work that way.

745
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Wait, I have another comment about this.

746
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Hello Adam, this is Kevin from Coloring Outside the Lines.

747
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Then I have a serious issue with Pod to mom.

748
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
The issue is not monetary.

749
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000
It's with associations.

750
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,000
I am very careful as a professional body painter of what gets associated with my artwork.

751
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,000
I just want to say that all that crackling noise that's his recording, not my, not my set up.

752
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So kind of listen through it because it's worth it.

753
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And I am also consider it to those people who would like to have ads in my

754
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show.

755
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The reason why is because of the nature of my work.

756
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Associations can be very detrimental.

757
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,000
I really don't like the idea that a company could take an ad.

758
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Let's say adult websites porn.

759
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And put it in front of my show.

760
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I really don't like that.

761
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Now I'm not saying that Pod to mom is going to start selling porn.

762
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But I don't like the idea that they could.

763
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Now let's look at it at the bigger picture.

764
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:21,000
And this is what happens if let's say a casino starts running ads.

765
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So these godcasters now have their shows sandwiched in between casinos.

766
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:37,000
Or let's say we find out that there's a company that screws you over in the past and now you're advertising for them.

767
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I don't think I would like that at all.

768
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:49,000
Now I've seen some comments saying that well what's the difference between that and like the podcast pickle and podcast alley.

769
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000
They have ads.

770
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:58,000
The difference is that there is a distinct difference in mediums.

771
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:07,000
The problem I have with Pod to mom is that they're using the same medium to do their advertisements.

772
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So it makes it almost indistinguishable.

773
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:18,000
Now for those people who are starting to wonder exactly why am I concerned about this and

774
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after all associations are no big deal.

775
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,000
I only have one thing to say.

776
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I haven't even heard that way.

777
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,000
Okay.

778
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,000
Okay.

779
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Thank you.

780
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It worked.

781
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Okay.

782
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Let's talk about Pod to mom for a second.

783
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
So there's a couple of different things.

784
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,000
First of all, anything that you create anybody anywhere, whether you just write something

785
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,000
down on a piece of paper or whether you record something automatically that is your copyrighted work.

786
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,000
You don't have to register that.

787
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000
You don't have to do anything more.

788
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,000
It's your work and it's copyrighted and that is pretty much the law everywhere as far as I know.

789
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:08,000
The use of your work falls under whatever copyright you choose to give use choose to put on it.

790
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,000
So basically no one can use that work without express permission.

791
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Things like creative comments have made it very easy so that instead of, you know, people having to contact the originator of a work continuously to find out what can I do with this, what you will allow me to do with this.

792
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,000
The creative comments licenses really say, okay, here's what you're allowed to do.

793
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,000
For instance, I would deem this this podcast.

794
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:40,000
Licenseable under the creative comments copyright attribution non-commercial share like, which means you have to share it the same way.

795
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,000
You have to credit where it comes from and you can't use it in any commercial venture.

796
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,000
That is very different from a directory link.

797
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:56,000
By the way, I have to say that using a shows picture as a directory link.

798
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:06,000
Actually, I guess you should ask for permission to use that, which brings up an interesting point a lot of people have mentioned about the podshow.com directory listings.

799
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:13,000
We're definitely changing that. We went through this whole thing with Jason Calcanas before and we've, we've now put in the website links.

800
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,000
But within two weeks, it's all going to change and there will be no huge ads next to the listing.

801
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,000
So, you know, that's, we're not trying to make anything look like ours.

802
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Really, we're just focusing on a whole bunch of other stuff and, you know, the only thing we could do is pull it all down.

803
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000
But it's now, you know, in the middle of an integration with podcast alley.

804
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,000
So apologies for people who don't like that.

805
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:40,000
The whole thing has been discussed and in open form, just look for the blog post from Jason Calcanas and myself about that.

806
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,000
So we are changing that because I don't think that's exactly right either. That placement is not proper.

807
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:57,000
But we could actually have the discussion where if you are, if you've not expressly submitted your podcast to the podcast alley directory to podshow that we shouldn't be able to use your logo, that would make sense.

808
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,000
It would be a shame, obviously, because it's all it is for promotional purposes.

809
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,000
It's like the phone book, you know, we're trying to get people to make it easy to find stuff.

810
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:15,000
So directories is pretty much inherent to the internet. Now, when it comes to taking, I'll just use my podcast in this example.

811
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Taking that and presenting that to anyone in any way shape or form where it could be deemed confusing.

812
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:32,000
And the law does have an alloyer, but the law does have some very specific jurisprudence about consumer or customer or user confusion.

813
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:39,000
If it seems like the ads are a part of a podcast, then there's definitely a case.

814
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Now, specifically with pod to mob, let me just backtrack a little bit.

815
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:50,000
So they have been around for a while, and they've, you know, either sucked out other directories, which is perfectly cool.

816
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:58,000
You know, we make our directories available, certainly, any part of that org to take that, that opium l file, the listing and use that anywhere you want.

817
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Because that's good. It's distribution for everybody. I totally agree with it. I think it's great that you are able to receive podcasts on your cell phone.

818
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Now, when I checked out the service, you know, the first thing I heard was this podcast is brought to you by and then there was a ringtone company.

819
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:26,000
And then my show started with our own ad insertion or tag insertion of go daddy. That's a violation of the copyright because it's confusing consumers.

820
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Now, after, and by the way, I never submitted anything to their directorie, you know, the guys from pod to mob are very, very vague.

821
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:41,000
And since we've started this whole brewha, they have changed what they're doing, for instance.

822
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:48,000
So my show has been removed from the directory entirely upon my request, by the way.

823
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:55,000
But Don and Drew is an example of still in there. Now, what has changed is pod to mob is no longer serving ads. Here's what they're doing.

824
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Let me see if I can make this work. It's coming from from a different computer that I've passed into the board.

825
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,000
And it's streaming, of course.

826
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:10,000
The podcast you requested is being brought to you by pod to mob.com. Please tell your friends. They don't need an iPod to listen to podcasts.

827
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Thank you very much, and now here's your podcast.

828
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:18,000
See how that I like. I really don't have a problem with that.

829
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:25,000
I'm okay. I think they still should ask me for the permission to do that. Now, in fact, I demand they asked for permission to do that.

830
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,000
But I would say, yeah, that's okay. You can do that, but you can't go inserting ads.

831
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,000
Now, let me say something about pod to mob. So I've discussed this on the show.

832
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,000
We've had there's been many postings about it.

833
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:45,000
And I've sent several emails I've had Brian Longer, start director of operations, call them. They're not getting back to me at all.

834
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:52,000
And I think that these guys are a bunch of quite honestly shady characters from LA who are in the ringtone business.

835
00:46:52,000 --> 00:47:01,000
And they're in the ringtone business, or being in the ringtone business makes them very knowledgeable about how to get stuff, you know,

836
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:09,000
little applications on to cell phones. So, you know, they have all the right knowledge, but I think they have the wrong business acumen.

837
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,000
And they're not being very apologetic at all. They're trying to defend their business model.

838
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,000
And what I'm getting, and this is the most interesting thing. I'm getting emails and comments from everywhere saying,

839
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,000
Oh, go sue them. Go sue them. Take them out. No, you know what? We're not going to do that.

840
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:33,000
Go take care of yourselves. I'm going to take care of our shows and make sure that we're protected because I don't want any more fights with people.

841
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000
I don't want fights legal fights with these guys.

842
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,000
And there could be more on the horizon because ringtone guys are doing really nasty shit.

843
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:46,000
As an example, Jeff Smith, who makes all those wonderful jingles like...

844
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:02,000
This is popping up on ringtone websites all over the internet.

845
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:12,000
Without any permission to do so, no relationship to the creative of the work Jeff Smith and even worse.

846
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:17,000
They're putting a different owner, author name, onto this ringtone.

847
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:24,000
And I'll tell you why. The ringtone business is a part of the big record industry, the RIA.

848
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:35,000
And when you sell a ringtone, a portion of that sale goes to the author composer, the owner of the rights, basically, of that ringtone.

849
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:42,000
So what they're doing is they're stealing this ringtone and several others of Jeff's, by the way, putting it up for sale.

850
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,000
And then, first they take the sale amount, the transaction, and then on the back end, they get it, they get money paid from AskCat,

851
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,000
BMI for the distribution. And this is something that we really need to go after.

852
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:01,000
I mean, these guys are chisters. So I can only think that if you've got pod to mob, who are kind of in that ringtone business,

853
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,000
that they do not have podcasters best intentions at heart.

854
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Unless they prove otherwise, which would be really nice if they responded in a proper manner, either privately through email,

855
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:17,000
by picking up the phone and calling the numbers we left for them, or by really getting into the conversation.

856
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,000
So far, I've seen nothing but hogwash, and I do not trust these guys.

857
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:27,000
And now, one last song for y'all, from the pod save music network.

858
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If you've got a grandma, you may appreciate this song.

859
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Or if you are a grandma, listen to this Charlie.

860
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,000
I'm almost turning I need to.

861
00:49:44,000 --> 00:52:18,000
[ Music ]

862
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:25,000
And swear she smiled before she left.

863
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:35,000
I felt the world fall off her chest.

864
00:52:35,000 --> 00:53:14,000
[ Music ]

865
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Grandma's going to fly.

866
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:30,000
From the pod safe music network.

867
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,000
John Nicholson, Tennessee, and Grandma's getting high.

868
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:41,000
Forzens of today's podcast brought to you by AccuView.

869
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:47,000
I'll be back tomorrow.

870
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Thanks for listening to my banter.

871
00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:00,000
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872
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,500
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874
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