1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 This podcast is brought to you by Pancho and GoDaddy. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Want to hear our content with a bad ass domain name? 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 This show will give you a special code. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Get great discounts at GoDaddy.com. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Well, hello, everybody. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Welcome to the very first Devcast. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Which you can find and hopefully, 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Did find at developers.podshow.com. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,000 With me, I'm in Gilford in the Curry Cottage with me today. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Joining us via Skype is Andrew Grommett, 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,000 who is at Pod Show HQ in San Francisco, 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Morning Andrew. 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Good morning, Adam. 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,000 So, here we go, bro. 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 We're getting real close now. 16 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Getting real. 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 So, excuse me, I'm eating a cheese and grapes. 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Which is a rocket fuel for developers in England. 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 It's not a diet coke. 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 No, no, no, no, no. 21 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,000 I don't drink diet coke. 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Okay, so here's the concept. 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,000 We want to allow the first audience members to come into Pod Show 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Plus and, you know, snoop around and see what's going on 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,000 and work with the podcast delivery network as well. 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,000 And since we have lots of cool stuff that we already planning for developers, 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 we thought it was a logical, 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 yeah, really a logical step to say, 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 well, why don't we let the developers in first? 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Who, of course, are fantastic listeners. 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Andrew is you and I, or as I know, having worked with you. 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,000 I mean, those early days of, of podcasting when, 33 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,000 literally, you know, I'd create a show and then you guys would adapt your code. 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 You know, what was it like from your end, 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,000 back in the day, developing with, with users who were creating podcasts? 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 It was pretty amazing. 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,000 The thing, it's, it's, uh, 38 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,000 when you can build your own code and then, 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,000 have that, you know, influence your daily life, build the tools that are, 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,000 you know, improving your, your data day experience. 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 That's, that's one of the best things you can do, 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 I think, uh, as an engineer. 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Maybe just short of building stuff for other people, 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 which, of course, we were doing it the same time. 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 But, uh, I do have a great memory of the first. 46 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,000 I don't know if you remember this, 47 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,000 you remember the first. 48 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 I think you played a clip from a coverville of the Abba. 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Um, do you remember this? 50 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 They did Abba covers in the early days. 51 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Trying to think, I don't know. 52 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,000 I just have this incredible memory of, of walking down the street, 53 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 and listening to this cover of an Abba song, 54 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 uh, and thinking, wow, okay, we're really onto something here. 55 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Um, yeah. 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Covers of Abba, we've really improved the universe. 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Haven't we, Andrew? 58 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 That's great. 59 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Okay. 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Now, we've had, um, 61 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,000 developer.podshow.com up for a while. 62 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Um, we actually haven't really been able to add much to it. 63 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Since we haven't really opened up yet, 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 and I guess, uh, we're working to happen here. 65 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 We'll eventually flow over into, uh, into that site. 66 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Yeah, right on. 67 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,000 That's, uh, where we're collecting all of the, uh, ideas. 68 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Right now, of course, it's heavy on ideas. 69 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 But, uh, as we release SDKs, 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,000 we will have, um, you know, downloads and web visible, 71 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,000 the HTML documentation for everything that we release, 72 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 uh, trying to make it really easy. 73 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Collect code examples, um, 74 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 uh, pointers to, uh, 75 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,000 people who might have put things up on their own sites. 76 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Just try to make it, uh, 77 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 you know, the place to get started, 78 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,000 if you're a developer and want to build something around the PDN. 79 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Right. 80 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Now, there's, there's really two sides. 81 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,000 There is the PDN. 82 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 The podcast will be network and actually, uh, 83 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 there isn't API for that now, which, uh, 84 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,000 is pretty standard. 85 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,000 I don't think we've published it yet, 86 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,000 and so we can get to it. 87 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 But, uh, we're going to publish that 88 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,000 for these developers as well, who will be playing with that? 89 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Absolutely. 90 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Yeah. 91 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 So, um, I've actually, uh, 92 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,000 there's a couple of the recent posts sort of hint at where we're going, 93 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 and, um, actually, I made you, 94 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 maybe that maybe I should do a dev cast to actually talk 95 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 through some of the stuff we, uh, 96 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 you know, figure it out, uh, 97 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,000 doing some of that implementation, um, 98 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 uh, as a, you know, a way to, 99 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 test the water and see what people's reactions are. 100 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Uh, before, you know, what happens when you commit things, 101 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 too, uh, writing on the web suddenly, 102 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 they become stack. 103 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Yeah. 104 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Before, you know, even if you say, 105 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 even if you say, this is not stack, 106 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 so maybe a podcast is the way to, uh, 107 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 uh, you know, put some ideas out there for feedback. 108 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Excellent. 109 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Well, yeah, that would be good, 110 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 and then we'll just include it in this feed as well. 111 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 And then we have a pod show plus. 112 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 And this is where I think there's a lot of exciting stuff 113 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,000 to be done as well. 114 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 This is really the, the experience side. 115 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 This is what we built for the audience. 116 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 This is what really is taking the most time. 117 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 To really get it right. 118 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 And we have a concept of modules. 119 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,000 You want to get into that a little bit and explain what that is and, 120 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 and how they work and how the developers are mess around with them. 121 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Yeah. 122 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Absolutely. 123 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Modules are segments of every user and show on the on pod show plus 124 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000 will have a page. 125 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 We're calling it a profile page where you can, you know, 126 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 sort of like a homepage, uh, 127 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 where you can, uh, 128 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 uh, view information, uh, 129 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 about a person or a show. 130 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 And the person or the, you know, 131 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 if it's a show maintainer, 132 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 they arrange content on that page, 133 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 sort of like a blog page, 134 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 um, or a sort of a my, 135 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,000 you know, 136 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Yahoo type page. 137 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 And what we'll be doing with modules is, 138 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,000 um, 139 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,000 modules just our name for different areas on the page, 140 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,000 um, 141 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,000 that you can fill with flicker feeds or, 142 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 you know, any RSS feed or, 143 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 yeah, 144 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 who weather or, um, 145 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,000 you know, 146 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 recent shows from the, 147 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 uh, 148 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 I'm sorry, 149 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,000 recent, uh, 150 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 additions to the pod safe music network. 151 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,000 So we've come up with a handful of modules, 152 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 uh, for people to put on their pages. 153 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 And what we'll be doing is opening an up, 154 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,000 up in SDK that lets developers create, 155 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,000 uh, new modules that people can put on their pages. 156 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,000 So, uh, 157 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 that, you know, 158 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 within kind of reasonable limits of security and, 159 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 and machine, you know, 160 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 resource use, 161 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,000 you'll be able to put pretty much anything on your page that you want. 162 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000 So, uh, 163 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 we'll make it, uh, 164 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,000 you know, 165 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,000 you know, 166 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,000 let a thousand flowers bloom, 167 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,000 as they say, 168 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,000 you know, 169 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,000 let's see what people come up with. 170 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Yeah, we will actually have, 171 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,000 uh, 172 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,000 almost a user version of that, 173 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 which, of course, 174 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,000 a module that eats HTML. 175 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 You can, you know, 176 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,000 jam any HTML in there, 177 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 which users have gotten pretty good at. 178 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 And you'll be able to put that on your page as well. 179 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 So, it's, 180 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,000 it's kind of hard to explain. 181 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,000 So, that's why, you know, 182 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000 I'm happy that now people are going to be able to come in and take a look at it. 183 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Um, 184 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 how are we actually going to manage the, 185 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000 uh, this development process, 186 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Andrew, I mean, 187 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,000 who do people talk to, 188 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,000 uh, 189 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,000 I know we don't, 190 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 we don't have everything set up yet with URLs, 191 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,000 etc. 192 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Obviously, 193 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,000 um, 194 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 we're not going to give them out on the public podcast. 195 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,000 How, 196 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 how will the feedback loop work, 197 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 is it going to be a CVS, 198 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,000 or what, 199 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,000 what have you set up for all that? 200 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Yeah, 201 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,000 we're looking at, 202 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,000 actually right now, 203 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,000 we're looking at, 204 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 uh, 205 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 using a source forage project. 206 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Um, 207 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,000 we've talked internally about, 208 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,000 uh, 209 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,000 you know, 210 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,000 managing the CVS ourselves, 211 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,000 but, um, 212 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,000 I think, 213 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,000 there's sort of, 214 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,000 this is a well understood, 215 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,000 you know, 216 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 problem set as long as people are developing open source stuff. 217 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000 We, 218 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,000 there's plenty of tools out there, 219 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,000 uh, 220 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,000 that we can, 221 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,000 you know, 222 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,000 so we can use for, 223 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 uh, 224 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,000 saving people's code. 225 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,000 I mean, 226 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,000 the key thing is just that, 227 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000 you know, 228 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 and there's a place to point to it, 229 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 and stuff doesn't fall through the cracks. 230 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Um, 231 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,000 but, 232 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,000 K1 and myself, 233 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Kevin Strausky, 234 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,000 will be, 235 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 in the points of contact. 236 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 We actually have a, 237 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 a little used currently, 238 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 uh, 239 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Gmail address, 240 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 uh, 241 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,000 podshow developer at Gmail.com. 242 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,000 So we'll either use that or, 243 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 or whatever tools are available on, 244 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,000 say source forage, 245 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,000 or, 246 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,000 you know, 247 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 wherever we host it. 248 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,000 So now it, 249 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,000 it being on source force. 250 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,000 That means we can keep it close. 251 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 We can keep it password protected. 252 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Well, 253 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,000 that's a good point. 254 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Uh, 255 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,000 source forage is, 256 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,000 is for open source, 257 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,000 um, 258 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,000 you know, 259 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 code, 260 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,000 which I don't actually, 261 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,000 that's a good question. 262 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,000 I don't think we've, 263 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000 um, 264 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 technically if it's running on our servers, 265 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,000 we could keep it closed. 266 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,000 But if you mean, 267 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 you know, 268 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 we need a password, 269 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,000 you know, 270 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,000 in order to commit code, 271 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,000 sure that's how source forage works. 272 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Um, 273 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 but the code itself up there would be out in the open. 274 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Okay. 275 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Well, 276 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,000 that's, 277 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,000 that's not, 278 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 that's not an issue. 279 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Well, 280 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 and I think probably, 281 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,000 um, 282 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,000 and so we're going to issue golden tickets on these dev cast. 283 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,000 So it could be that you'd hear in this show, 284 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,000 could be in the next show, 285 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 could be the one after that. 286 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,000 But really, 287 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 the intention is to get all the developer's in, 288 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,000 but instead of having, 289 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,000 you know, 290 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,000 a couple hundred show up in, 291 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 in one day, 292 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,000 we're going to stagger it. 293 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,000 So you'll hear in one of these dev cast, 294 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,000 you'll hear instructions on where to go. 295 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,000 And I'm thinking that that makes sense, 296 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 that we give instructions, 297 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 or maybe there's a pre registered, 298 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,000 um, 299 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,000 that's a good, 300 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 that's an interesting one. 301 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 We can give more. 302 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 We're also going to have a wiki else that I mentioned, 303 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,000 as a place for information, 304 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 and putting up code samples. 305 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Yeah, my favorite technology. 306 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Okay. 307 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 So instructions, 308 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 how to get into this particular developer program, 309 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 we'll be included in the golden ticket. 310 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,000 And of course, 311 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,000 over the course of the next, 312 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,000 I don't know, 313 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,000 we'll probably do five of these, 314 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 and then as they go along as you and Kevin and other people have stuff to say, 315 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 we'll just do more, 316 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 which I think is kind of cool 317 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 if we have the audio feedback portion 318 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,000 to what's going on, 319 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 then eventually everyone will get in. 320 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Just so everyone is clear on the intent there. 321 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Oh, I see. 322 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Okay, right. 323 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 And Andrew, 324 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 by the way, 325 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 is the guy behind D-gap? 326 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,000 We can actually do this, right? 327 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 328 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 So, well, 329 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,000 do you want me to talk about that? 330 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Yeah, absolutely. 331 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 This is my favorite, 332 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 favorite stuff that we built. 333 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,000 This is cool. 334 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Okay, so with D-gap, 335 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,000 we basically have a system where you can set up a flag that says, 336 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,000 you know, 337 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,000 the next episode that comes through on show X, 338 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 you know, 339 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 should be flagged to get an insertion. 340 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 And then there's a pointer to, 341 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 you know, 342 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 the file that will be inserted. 343 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 And as you recall, 344 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,000 we'd come up with a convention for passing the information into the system about, 345 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 where in the middle of the cast, 346 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,000 the insertion should be made and with what probability, right? 347 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 This was the coin toss idea with each downloader. 348 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 We pick a random number and, 349 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,000 you know, subject to some probability, 350 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 decide whether that user will get a goal to take it. 351 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 And then if they do, 352 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 we bump the counter and, 353 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,000 and, you know, 354 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,000 check to make sure that we're only serving these golden tickets up to a certain point. 355 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,000 And after that, 356 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,000 we don't serve anymore. 357 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 So we're eventually going to open up an API for that as well. 358 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,000 I would presume. 359 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 We definitely can, right? 360 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,000 It, uh, 361 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,000 excuse me, 362 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000 but all I'm saying all, 363 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,000 yeah, 364 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 I had my own, 365 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 you know, 366 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,000 I was thinking about that. 367 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,000 You know, 368 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,000 we're not, 369 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 we need to get this in sale. 370 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Love here over HQ. 371 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Really. 372 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Um, 373 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,000 uh, 374 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 so we can APIize that absolutely. 375 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Um, 376 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 I think the sky's the limit, really. 377 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Cool. 378 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,000 We have to, 379 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 you know, 380 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 figure out what people like and, 381 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,000 you know, 382 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,000 okay. 383 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Um, 384 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 just, 385 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,000 oh, yeah, 386 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 I wanted to touch briefly on, 387 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,000 because I, 388 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 in the source code, 389 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 I said that, 390 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,000 really, 391 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 the only skills you need are knowledge of HTML, 392 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 PHP. 393 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Am I correct in that assumption? 394 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 It doesn't seem like there's much more there, is there? 395 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Yeah. 396 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 It's, uh, 397 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 there's actually, 398 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 a sort of build-up function that will set up a skeleton for you as well. 399 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,000 So you don't even have to know the file structure, 400 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 all that deeply. 401 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Um, 402 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 but you give it a name for your module. 403 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 And, uh, 404 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,000 it's sort of what the, 405 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,000 you know, a gentle slope. 406 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,000 You can just put in some, 407 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,000 some static text and you're often running, 408 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 uh, 409 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 but what we'll do is we'll provide docs on, 410 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 you know, 411 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,000 how to get deeper and create custom variables and so forth. 412 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Excellent. 413 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,000 So yeah, 414 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,000 I don't think we, 415 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,000 we're not going to require any sequel programming or anything like that. 416 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Okay. 417 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Good, because then I can't participate. 418 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 I want to get in there and mess around and screw some shit up. 419 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 I know just enough to be really dangerous. 420 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,000 I was going to say, 421 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,000 can you, you know, 422 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 tunnel out your, 423 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 your second life identity somehow. 424 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Dude, 425 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 that stuff is outrageous. 426 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Have you been, 427 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,000 but tried second life? 428 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 I haven't. 429 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,000 I'm scared of it. 430 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 If I do it, 431 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,000 that'll be it. 432 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,000 It'll eat your time. 433 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 It takes away your life. 434 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,000 It, it, 435 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,000 it becomes first life almost. 436 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,000 It's amazing. 437 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 I've already, 438 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,000 um, 439 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,000 someone already gave me a, 440 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,000 um, a penis. 441 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 So I can use that now and all the, 442 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 you know, 443 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 the sex area is, 444 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,000 it's crazy. 445 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,000 It's like, 446 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,000 it's really nice. 447 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,000 What did I hear that they're, 448 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,000 they're prostitutes now? 449 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Oh, yeah. 450 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Excuse me. 451 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Escorts Andrew. 452 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Escorts. 453 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Oh, sorry. 454 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,000 All right. 455 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,000 All right. 456 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Good man. 457 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,000 So let's leave it at this. 458 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,000 And tomorrow, 459 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 I think I'll connect with, 460 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 uh, 461 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 with Kevin and, uh, 462 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000 who walk us through, 463 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 uh, 464 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,000 some more of the module stuff. 465 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,000 And as of tomorrow, 466 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,000 um, 467 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,000 hopefully we'll have it all set up so that we can, 468 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 uh, 469 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,000 and so this is this first one. 470 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 I'll just make sure that, 471 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,000 uh, 472 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,000 everyone is receiving it that, 473 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,000 uh, 474 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,000 we've got, 475 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 uh, 476 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 everyone is hooked up and subscribed. 477 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 I think this probably going to be about, 478 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,000 30 to 40 people who will, 479 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,000 who are subscribed already. 480 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 I mean, 481 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,000 it's, uh, 482 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,000 excellent. 483 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Yeah. 484 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Now I'm looking forward to this. 485 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Because there's a lot of excitement on, 486 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 on the, 487 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 on the, 488 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 on the first post, 489 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 mainly because people are just waiting and waiting 490 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,000 and waiting for me to get my ass in care and get this stuff up. 491 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,000 All right, 492 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,000 um, 493 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,000 what's up for you today at HQ? 494 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,000 And well, 495 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,000 uh, 496 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,000 I've just about got the, 497 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,000 the wiki set up. 498 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,000 I think I was mentioning that the, 499 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,000 um, 500 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,000 so this will be uh, 501 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,000 tied in with the pdn, 502 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 so that the login will carry over and, 503 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,000 um, 504 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 uh, 505 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,000 uh, 506 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,000 uh, 507 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,000 got a call with a big, 508 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,000 uh, 509 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,000 unnamed company coming up here in about a half an hour 510 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 to talk about some joint projects. 511 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 And, 512 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 uh, 513 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,000 uh, 514 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,000 yeah. 515 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,000 So we'll keep, 516 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,000 better as well. 517 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Keep em busy. 518 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,000 All right, man, 519 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,000 fantastic. 520 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Um, 521 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 well, 522 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,000 that's it for dev cast number one. 523 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Be on the lookout for dev cast number two by tomorrow. 524 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,000 And of course, 525 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,000 uh, 526 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,000 be on the lookout for your golden ticket. 527 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Andrew, 528 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,000 thank you very much, 529 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,000 man. 530 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,000 I'll talk to you later in the week. 531 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,000 All righty. 532 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 Get this podcast and we're great 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