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Well, hey everybody.

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Welcome to Devcast number three.

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It's late here Friday evening in London.

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And of course, that's one of the...

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Well, sometimes a tremendous advantage to be eight hours...

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You have eight hours of separation between yourself and the heat of all the action.

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But sometimes it's a little bit challenging.

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But I finally got her.

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The woman we've been looking for for the past, I don't know, three days.

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Finally on the Skype, Erin O'Neill.

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Erin, how are you?

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I'm doing good. A little tired.

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Now, we weren't able to connect because you were at...

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What was this?

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A sequel course?

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What exactly were you doing?

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I was at the MySQL user conference that happens once a year down in Silicon Valley.

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So people came from all over the world to lead sessions and network

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and talk about MySQL and challenges.

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Meet children from other lands?

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Yes, yes.

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A lot of people from Australia and Germany and Sweden.

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Really? That's interesting.

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I wonder why those countries in particular.

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MySQL has offices there.

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Oh, okay.

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So MySQL actually is a company as well.

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Yes.

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I think they're kind of a non-profit company.

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I'm not exactly sure because I don't pay attention to that part.

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We paid for this, I hope.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And it was long. They don't play at all.

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I'm not used to conferences that go from early in the morning to late at night.

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So Erin was there.

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Connectivity was spotty, I think.

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And then she's emailing me like,

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Wow, there's a whole bunch of geeks here.

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It's no fun.

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There was like 40 guys to every woman.

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There were only 10 of us.

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That's kind of...

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It seemed like it was 50 to 60% women.

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How long have you been a database wizard, Erin?

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I come into it and then get snagged into doing system work.

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So I started a long time ago.

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Okay, I guess it was...

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Too long to say dates.

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Yeah, I guess it would be improper to ask you exactly how long ago.

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Long, long time ago.

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But it seems like there's a shortage of Unix geeks

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and I'll be doing database stuff.

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and it's kind of missing database.

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Yeah, but you're also really good at both, you know.

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We like to misuse that as much as possible.

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Yeah, but right after this conference,

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I just need to, you know,

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tighten down and spend as much time on the database as I can.

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Okay, so Erin is, as you can tell,

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she basically rules over all things database.

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All her database belongs to her.

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And as well as some sysadmin.

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In fact, I don't think there's anything in the company

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that doesn't actually touch your domain, right?

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Everything talks to your database at some point.

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and they don't, not too much.

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But yeah, I guess most everything.

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You mean the site that's currently up?

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But music uses it, PCA uses database.

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And of course, PDN does the new pod show plus.

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Okay, so tell us what you've got set up

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and what you're doing and what you've been developing so far.

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dive in as deep as you want.

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I won't get too geeky.

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Are you kidding me?

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A woman talking nerdy and geeky?

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That's hot.

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and they need a lot of babysitting

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and that's the music.podshow.com

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and podcast alley.

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Everything's on the same machine.

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we're using master slave database replication.

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Can you just say that again really slowly?

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Could you just say master slave database replication?

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I thought you'd like that one.

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Baby, it's my new mantra.

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that doesn't know how to use master slave database stuff

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and we're not willing to rewrite their software.

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for the future is scalability and stuff like that.

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the Rackspace database person was there at the conference.

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which I've since found out won't work for us.

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That replication's really what we need.

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to move to and when to use what kindness is too nerdy.

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I was just about to say that it's been so nice

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working with you over the past couple of months

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because at one point I actually called up Aaron

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and said, OK, Aaron, walk me through just

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what the hell does all this mean?

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Please, I really want to understand.

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get a grip on or an understanding of exactly what it is

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because you were also integrating.

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those are in time going to be migrated

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into the current master slave system, aren't they?

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We might go into a master master slave until we can.

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I have to go potter my nose.

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because that's such a popular site, as you well know.

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Have you actually done anything like this before,

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like the stuff we're doing with PodShow Plus?

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because Kevin and I and Anton all worked together.

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Oh, Anton, yeah, that's who I got to talk to, Max.

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Yeah, the mad Russian.

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and I work with them closely

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where Kevin works in the middle of the night,

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so he just makes his tables,

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and then I have to bitch if he does it wrong,

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which isn't too often.

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He actually does a good job,

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so I don't really have to bitch at him.

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This is what I like so much about Pod Show

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is it was almost like, here's a cool party,

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bring two of your friends.

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Everyone's brought their favorite people

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who they've worked with before,

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and that really makes a difference, I think.

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I've worked at in a long time.

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It was called Involve,

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called Arcadium.com.

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Okay, yeah, I've heard of that.

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bought our, you know, we went under

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because they wanted our software

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so that MyNick.com currently uses it.

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At least last I heard.

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But that company, everybody liked each other.

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like go bowling or go hear bands together,

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and there was a band that worked there,

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and I'm a photographer.

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Everybody modeled for me.

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Oh, when do I get to model for you?

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Ooh, next time you're out.

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Can I do it with my clothes on,

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or is this nude modeling?

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But I may put you in a dress.

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Master Slave in a dress.

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I'm all for it.

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Well, so now Pod's show, it's like that.

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We really like each other.

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Last night was Chris Beshears

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going away.

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It was really fun, and, you know,

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we were hanging out with each other

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The Fabulous Evil Brothers. Yeah, were they good?

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I did enjoy them a lot.

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I didn't enjoy the sound quite as well.

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It was a small place. It was fun.

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I can't wait to see them again.

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Yeah, so it's a fun...

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Hold on. It is time now. Here it comes.

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So, a number of people just

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heard something completely

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out of the ordinary. They heard a golden ticket

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and they just got a passphrase

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and instructions on where to go.

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but, you know, I gotta throw these tickets out there. Yeah, yeah, I knew that was coming.

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Gotta throw the tickets out there.

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Andrew warned me. He was already.

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I'm using Andrew's headset.

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Yeah, I was gonna say it sounds good.

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Typical Andrew to have a great headset.

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So, have you seen any of the developers

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who are on the system yet?

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Have you encountered them yet?

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Are they...

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No, I have not because I was at the

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the frigging conference.

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You were at the conference.

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I didn't have enough time to get on.

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I was mostly dealing with problems

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see who's using it.

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You know what I'm missing, Aaron?

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I don't think I've found you on PodShow Plus yet.

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You haven't? I'm there.

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What are you called?

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You probably don't know my email.

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What are you called?

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What's your...

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Probably E on Arts.

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I don't know if I have a stage name.

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You can't get in without a stage name.

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You can't be there without a stage name.

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I'm there. I have an entourage.

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I'm E on Arts with Jesus.

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Dig me, will you? Just dig me and then I'll find you.

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I'm always trying to find you.

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I'm douche.

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We'll see. I didn't know yours.

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You didn't know mine.

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I'll show you mine if you show me yours, baby.

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Yeah, just dig me. I'm douche.

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There's words, right?

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Dig and stuff. People are going, what the hell is that?

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This is a lot of what's really cool about PodShow Plus.

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Easy way to connect.

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Oh, there you are.

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You got me. Hold on.

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I haven't figured out how to connect.

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How to dig you.

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You dig me and then I dig you back.

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I just digged you.

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I should have a message that says I got a new dig, right?

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Yeah.

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One new dig.

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I love it when that works.

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Okay, here's what's wrong about it.

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You don't pop up immediately.

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You have to go to page three. We got to fix that.

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That's mine.

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I know. I got to put some photos up.

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I just haven't had a chance.

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Wait a minute. I still don't see you, though.

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I said dig.

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I'm sure that you...

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Oh, wait a minute.

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People that dig me.

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I'm going to the wrong place.

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I see what's happening.

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I've got to fix some of this stuff.

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Fill out a bug.

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I'm loving filling out the bug reports.

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That's my favorite.

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Make sure they make sense.

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Ron and I are going to have a special thing called the Fug Report,

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which is a feature

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and a bug in the same...

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No, no, no.

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Yeah, we want a Fug Report.

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We got the feature alley

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or whatever it's called.

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Yeah, feature Festiva.

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Okay.

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I even have you down in my collection.

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The Daily Source Code.

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I got the Rock and Roll Geek Show.

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I got the Roadhouse and the Daily Downloads.

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Okay, I got to go figure it out.

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I got to find out what's going on.

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You got to figure it out.

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Okay, so...

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for the next couple of weeks,

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what are you working on?

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Oh, tightening up the database.

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Making some changes.

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Looking through that kind of stuff

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and offloading more scissor men stuff.

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Just tomorrow for the whole world to come in.

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Could we handle it?

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I don't know.

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This is not great.

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If you asked me that

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before I went to the conference,

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I would have said, fuck yes,

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but because you said that after the conference,

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I'm a little freaked out.

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Okay, so you definitely learned some things

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that were informative.

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Yeah, yeah.

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How about are people trying to poke at us

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from the outside?

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We went through that last week.

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That's why it wasn't prepared for the conference.

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You know, Jersey Joe

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involved with helping us out on that.

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Yeah, you don't want to mess with a guy

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called Jersey Joe who's sitting there

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watching our stuff. You know what I mean?

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It's like you want to stay far away

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from Jersey Joe.

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Exactly.

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We're pulling him in more for the security

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after that little incident last week.

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Sad.

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Can you tell me what happened

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when you didn't get away too much info?

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It actually wasn't with

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Pacho Plus at all.

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Was this the

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PodSafe Music Network?

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No, it was one of our

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legacy systems.

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Not going to PHPBB we didn't know about

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and it wasn't secure

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and we clamped it down.

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Wow, shit happens.

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We just got to close down that legacy stuff.

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Okay, Aaron.

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We're about at 15 minutes

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and I'm trying to keep these relatively short.

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Is there anything I can do to make your life

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easier?

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Oh, model for me in drag, I guess.

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Done. I'm so there.

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Patricia's coming with me next time

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in San Francisco so she can dress me up.

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We've decided you should perform at

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Tarani Shack. Yeah.

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Your number you did for us. Baby steps, hun.

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Baby steps. You mean my Barry Manilow singing?

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Exactly.

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You don't have to dress as a woman to perform

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that. You like that, didn't you?

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Yes, I did.

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I've contemplated releasing that video.

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We did an internal video

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for one of our Fridays

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and it included

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a fine performance by myself.

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I've considered releasing that but

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maybe just keep it for us, private.

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Okay.

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Okay, but you got a deal

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if that'll make your life any easier

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I definitely will model for you in a dress.

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I'm happy to do it. Okay.

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That is users and developers partying together,

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my dear.

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All right, Aaron.

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Thanks so much for taking time

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and glad to have you back

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and well, I'm sure we'll be in contact

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Monday or sometime next week.

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Yes. Talk to you later.

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All right. Aaron O'Neill everybody.

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Database sorceress at PodShow HQ

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and

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sometime at the beginning of next week, we'll come back at you

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with devcast number four

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and more golden tickets.

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This podcast and more great ones like it

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on the high performance podcast delivery

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network from PodShow

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and Limelight Networks.

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I love it.

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Thank you.