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It's now curry.

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Those mornings.

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Start off nice gym ass.

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And you wish for me like you as a child, baby

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And you wish for me like you as a child, baby

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not work. It's been one of those mornings, my friends. Six o'clock came too early today.

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Haven't really had this kind of an awakening since, uh, since I got here for this trip.

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Oh, man. So tired. Sometimes I feel like I'm in, uh, in my own little private big brother reality show.

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Walked away from his family.

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You. Okay. I thought there was kind of a cool tune. I had that, uh, in my playlist on the podcast music network for, um, I don't know.

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Like a week now or something every single day. And I thought, oh, maybe we should play it today. Now, but today is the right day.

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We're up a kind of late last night, deep bugging.

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Uh, this is one of those things. Um, you when you get sporadic reports from around the world saying that a certain page,

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in this case, I'm podger plus the my page for some people was loading really, really slowly. And none of us could see it.

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Uh, I couldn't, I hadn't seen it in, uh, at the cottage. I hadn't seen it here at the condo.

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Obviously not at the office. And then last night, finally Andrew Grummit had it at home.

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So then we got in touch with Jersey Joe out on the east coast. And, uh, we basically were working with people around the globe.

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And, uh, I think we, we got to the bottom of the problem. I had to cut out at a certain point. I just couldn't stand in my feet.

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Um, and I don't think the, uh, the problem has been resolved as of this morning. We said in senior email saying as much, but, uh, this is, uh, that's one of these things.

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You know, it's, uh, servers are, uh, interesting animals. As are the people who maintain them, by the way.

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Jersey Joe, how you doing? Yeah. So a little bit tired. Yes, they were at a great day at Pod Show HQ, uh, took, uh, the, uh, engineering staff out to lunch.

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Got to know each other a little bit better. So many people have come in so quickly. And we, you know, eventually,

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we're sitting at the table like 15 people, um, and all very diverse backgrounds. Some of them have

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known each other from previous, uh, work experience, uh, but it was just really good to get inside everybody's head.

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And, uh, really, it was an opportunity to lay it all out on the table and just say, okay, how do you think we're doing?

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Um, and it was a cleansing man. It felt good. Really did learn to shit load yesterday. Really did.

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Here's an example. I was talking to sod, uh, who, uh, to something. I don't know if, I don't know if

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you'd listen to the daily source code. Um, he's our search specialist. And, uh, who also has a very

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interesting background, which, of course, is not searched. But it's what really interesting is what

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it's been doing for the, I guess the past two, two or three years. And so we're talking about,

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uh, the show, and he said, you know, you know how I know when to, oh, it's actually does listen. He says,

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you know how I know when to go and listen to a show. Um, because this, this is what it was about.

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It was about the show notes. And you noticed yesterday, as I said, I changed, uh, the way I'm doing

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show notes. So I'm not giving you a complete rundown with time codes. And my personal feeling is if you

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want to listen to this show, you listen to the show. You know, if you just want to listen to the

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little bits, then someone else is going to have to extract that and pass it along to you. That's fine.

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That, to me, that's, uh, that's perfectly. In fact, it's fantastic. But I don't want to,

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you know, this isn't, this is my painting. This is my part. You know, if you don't like it,

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don't listen to it. Uh, if you don't like what you're hearing fast forward, but I just don't feel

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right about giving you, uh, hooks deep into the program. I just, my personal feeling, you know,

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anyone can do whatever they want. And so I'm, I'm rethinking what show notes should be. And,

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and quite honestly, after I talked to Sada, then he said, you know, um, what I'll do is, uh,

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I'll read through the comments. I thought that was interesting. He says if there's a lot of

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comments and, um, and if people are talking about an interesting topic that was discussed in the show,

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then I'll listen to the show, um, and I was like, wow, what a one-of-mind blower that is. Of course,

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that makes so much sense. So immediately we said about, um, discussing how to, how to weigh indexing

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of comments that are associated with the show, which, of course, in Podio plus is great because

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it actually is attached to the episode. Uh, so, so we can do that kind of stuff. And then, uh,

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and then, then my head just started spinning about all the different things we can do with the context

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of, uh, of comments. Um, so leave a comment to daily source code.com. You know what, and, and,

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in this, in almost three weeks now that I've been out here, I have not fulfilled on my, uh,

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upon my obligation. I feel so shitty. I have not gone to see little man, the movie. And I was talking

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to Ron's son, um, two days ago. Was it Sunday? And we had brunch, Augie. And he, he was telling me,

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he would, he wanted to go again. He wanted to go with me to see the movie and can. That's how much

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he liked it. And the last thing that I would be perfect to get Augie on to do a review. But, uh,

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I don't think, uh, I know, I know he's not up this early. So maybe Friday show, when I'm back in the

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cottage, um, then we'll have a little better time to different, so I'll be able to give him a call.

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I shoot that may not work either. I don't know. He says it's really, really good. So I do

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intend on going. Um, and again, this is, uh, you know, the reason why I have to go to the movie

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theaters because, uh, they really want to advertise the movie on the daily source code. And I said,

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send me a DVD and they said, well, we can't do that because, you know, if piracy, as it

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thanks for the trust. But we predicted it, Patricia and I predicted it would be a summer blockbuster.

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So that definitely came true. It's a way in brothers. You know, you can almost expect a good

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silly laugh from them. And of course, I'd like to be properly medicated when I go. But I'm going

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to go see it. I think I'll take Christina for sure. Turning on the TV in the past two days, all I see

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on television. Of course, this is summer, right? And the summertime, um, it's all reruns and

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not all reruns with most of it is. And, um, it's all about Mel. That's right. Mel Gibson,

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his career is over. The superstar has fallen. It's like, geez, I can't believe the crap that

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they're talking. So, you know, look, first of all, of course, you shouldn't drive them to the influence

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of alcohol. And, you know, maybe he yelled at the officer and you know, maybe it was,

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maybe it was inappropriate what he said. But, you know, for to say, his career is, and this is

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very consistent. You know, his career is on the brain, gets teetering and maybe he does have a real

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problem with alcohol. You know, just, uh, it's just people are just jumping on this with joy almost.

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looks like they've fucked up, people jump on it. This has led me to the conclusion that whenever

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you have, how should I put it? Whenever there's no risk of the person you're talking about,

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punching you in the face, particularly when, um, you're separated by a series of tubes,

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known as the internet, and there's almost complete anonymity. And even if they know who you are,

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still, you know, you could be separated by thousands of miles of distance. People will say

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the darnedest things about you. They really will. And she don't have to be Mel Gibson who messes up

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and then all these jackasses on television are just taking the Mickey out of you all the time. It can be

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anybody. Uh, it'll be interesting to see as we move forward in the proverbial 15 minutes of fame

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for everybody. How many people really like being the center of attention anywhere? It's just, it's,

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it's so easy for people to take shots. This is what happens. You know, I see this, we were talking

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about this yesterday as well, that I've, I've yet to see a mailing list or, um, anywhere where people

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can be a forum, you know, anywhere where people can basically collaborate, ever end in anything good,

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or have an indefinite life cycle at the end of the day. People start disagreeing and, and then the

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flame war start and then the, the, the, the signal to noise ratio of that particular channel of

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information just becomes crap. You know, and it is. It's human nature. I think it's, it's, that's

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is why we're at war all over the fucking place. It's the same thing. I guess humans just don't have

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their shit together yet. And all these hundreds of millions of years and we still haven't really

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figured it out. In our Troy needs an iPod contest for those of you who have been participating,

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what I've been looking for is, um, an even better domain name telling me why you deserve an

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iPod. Troy, Rutter, of course, started this off with Troy needs an iPod.com. And he actually on

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that site, he had started collecting money for the iPod that he needs, um, and yesterday I said,

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because he kicked off the whole thing and I felt kind of bad. I said that would send him an iPod.

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And, uh, he sent back a note and said, for those wondering about the $57 I collected, uh,

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through Troy needs an iPod.com. I'm going to go ahead and donate it to the blank children's hospital

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in Des Moines, Iowa. I know, keep the donation page up until yesterday, of course. So now it's down.

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Good. Troy, that's very cool, dude. And by, I think Friday will choose the winner. Of course,

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part of the requirement is that the domain name. I don't care if you register it with GoDaddy. You're

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not using checkout code DSC3, which gives you the domain name for $6.95 for an entire year.

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Shoot. I should get myself a Boeing for that one.

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I don't care if you register with GoDaddy, but you do have to register it. I mean,

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come on. It's got to actually end part of the whole joke is if it resolves to something.

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So make sure you do if you want to be eligible, uh, for, uh, for the drawing, for the announcement

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of the winner on Friday. A couple of voicemails that came in that I should share with you.

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The number, of course, is a new jersey, which will work best for you Skypeers plus 201 6565657

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or in London, O2076813753. Um, it was a little party in, uh, second life the other day. I think

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got some calls regarding that. Let's see here. Now Adam and Britney,

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Mason, if you're listening, it's going then just so, so. Okay. So Britney, of course,

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kind of runs the pod show island in second life, but has, has built her own, uh, pod show plus page.

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It Britney Mason, our pod show dot com. This is what Go name is talking about.

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The second life again. It is Mike Turner, real life name. I've just checked out your page. Britney,

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looks all right to me. We have pod show page. Britney Mason dot pot show dot com.

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But I'm not so long to rise growing there. Um, so there's a, just looking to see the shows you

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big. And there's one who's been digging you for something like 40 shows, 75 digs, and quite a few

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in your, uh, underrised air. Um, so it's anyway, I'm off the bed now. I'll pick on second life

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all night. Yeah. Um, uh, just me. Oh, by the way, I forgot saying last week's comment.

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I'm a scruncher, not a soldier. Bye. All right. I'm sorry. If you're scruncher, you can't be on the show

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anymore. It's officially banned. Yeah. It's kind of what I like about, uh, about those personal pages

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is that you, you don't have to be a podcaster and you can still promote your favorite shows. And

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there's a lot of stuff in there that works. And the people like Britney definitely latch on to that.

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Hi, then it's mini Paul from the UK, uh, although I'm not calling for the UK. I'm currently on

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holiday in North America, driving around my little Honda, and uh, this is into DSC 427. And I was

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hearing your comments by getting all spam, uh, at your email, Adam at curry.com. I wanted, uh,

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when I first started mini Paul.co.uk, and I had a mail to link set up there, and I was getting a

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head of a lot of spam. And, uh, I read an article that we said that if you have a website, it's best

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to have your contact email address as a picture. So you just have a picture file on the home page,

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there, rather than a mail to link. And then the web pool is can't find your email address, because

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I'll see they can't read pictures. And it worked really well, and it reduced my spam by hell of a lot.

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And, uh, almost none now, actually. And so I hope that one helps you out, maybe you could try

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that out as a one suggestion and get you with a spam. And I can't have a good work with baby source code.

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And I'll talk to you again soon. Bye, bye. You know, actually, I think I discovered something

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really cool about, you know, I had all these problems. Thank you, by the way, for, I'm quite aware

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of you. The more your email addresses out there. And of course, mine is all over the place. And I've

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had curry dot com for, uh, krikey. How many years have I had curry dot com 15 years? No, that's too long.

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That's too long. Maybe 12 years, something like that. 93, 13 years. Yeah, probably, probably about 13 years.

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Um, your email addresses out there. Your domain name is out there. It gets on all the lists.

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Particularly if it's anywhere that a web crawler can get to, you're absolutely right. That's a great way.

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There are a lot of people who will say, you know, Adam at 80 curry dot com. That's what I put down

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because a lot of crawlers are looking for the, uh, the ad sign to use that. Ah, another email address. I can spam.

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Who knows, maybe his wife will want to buy pills from me. Um, oh, man. I'm so fried.

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I wasn't going to say. Oh, yeah. So I think I've actually discovered something cool. If, if you,

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actually shut off, you bounce email from the domain name long enough. I guess what, uh, even these

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spammers are are kind of sophisticated. Eventually, they just say, fuck it. This is no good. We're

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going to remove that one from the list because we're not getting any, uh, we're getting bounces from it.

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And yeah, so it screws up your email communications for a little while, but I don't know if I actually missed anything.

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What I, what I don't know, it doesn't hurt me. And the spam has reduced almost to zero. It really has.

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So I have to say, you know, a surefire way to absolutely get rid of the spammers is just a

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bounce message is back out. And for, well, you know, of course, everyone gets the bounces. But if you can do that

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for a week, if you can do it for two weeks, it's even better because man, it really does work.

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Hey, Adam, jump from the Netherlands calling this morning. I drove to the office,

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listening to the Charlie of Friday edition. And you mentioned the podcast of Mark Yosimoto,

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Nenkov called, where the hell is my fucking latte or where's my fucking latte? And been

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listening to the, say, the cause of hell way for two weeks now, and it awesome. So the first thing I did,

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what I got into the office, start up the pod show and looking for the new

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Mark Yosimoto podcast. And there was no link in your show notes. So

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try it again through the search module of pod show and there it was. So no problem at all.

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Got it and download it and go and listen to it and hope it's as good as the particular

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hotel way because that show rocks. Take care. I'm a folder. Yes, of course. Of course you are.

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Yeah, the search is working. That part works pretty well. I think you'll enjoy it.

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And I was amazed to find that there are already 10 episodes of that show out there. And yeah,

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I'll put a, I'll put a link in the show notes today. So you can find it easily. But yeah,

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this search does does work. I think actually we're going to start putting that show on on

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serious as well. In fact, it may even be today because as I'm looking at the lineup for those of

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daily source code.com so you can listen to the full shows because you only get about half an hour of

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fucking latte? It might be one of the shows. After that dawn and Drew, then we're going to bring

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you the rumor girls. Very popular video podcast, which translates beautifully to audio. And then

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check this out, man. Peter, you've got to send me more information. So between eight and nine tonight,

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we have the fantastic podcast known as the rotating guest slot. After that, it's a use radio and

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Scott Siggler will wrap it up. He's on all this week between 930 and 10. If you've never heard

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Scott Siggler and his pateo books, you've got to listen tonight between 930 and 10. That's Eastern

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time right here on serious stars 102. You got about, was it a couple more minutes with you guys?

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Ah, you know what? Just time enough.

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Name in the band after he's cop. Nice to know. Roger. So good to hear from you. What are you

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doing, man? You don't call it off and enough. Yeah. Today is MTV's 25th birthday. And you've

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probably read more stories about the fact that MTV is not doing anything to celebrate it,

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then you've actually heard stories. So I figured that I could take 10 or 15 minutes and give you

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a couple of stories. White Snake is a good start, Roger. Actually, I did hang out a little bit

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with white snake. Less because of David Coverdale and more because of Tony Katana,

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I have to be honest. I'm also a Adrian Vanderberg, a friend of mine from Holland, who Patricia

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also had known for many, many years. When they were at the height of their heyday, he was in the band.

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And he's a fine, fine Dutch guitarist. He still does all kinds of music stuff.

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Well, I could share what kind of music stuff, but I'll find that out. And so whenever they went

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town, we'd hook up or Patricia now would go see the concert. And when he hooked up with Tony

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Katana, that was kind of cool, you know, because, you know, I could look at Tony Katana all night.

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And at one point, I don't know if this is a cool story, it's kind of sad. You know, they've been

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separated. I think they're married really only in the last couple of years. And then she went on

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to date apparently, O.J. Simpson. Now she's married to a baseball player. I think she also

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didn't she also go out with one of the guys and rat? So, you know, Tony's been around for sure.

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But at their wedding, which we were invited to, when we went to, it was at the four seasons in Los

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Angeles. It was very expensive, very, you know, just a perfect wedding. But after everything, the

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reception, at the ceremony, we just went to the reception, we didn't go to the actual ceremony.

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Tony got pretty hammered. And I really got to tell you, and Patricia will back me up on this.

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She was sending off all kinds of weird signals towards the two of us. I mean, you know, like in

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the sexual sense. And that was really weird. We attributed it to alcohol, of course,

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but it just felt very uncomfortable. It always felt she was a bit skanky, honestly.

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I don't know, have any other white snake stories? Actually, I don't have any other. If Patricia

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were here, we talked about the time that we went out with Rudy Sarzo and his wife, the drummer.

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And we went to a movie. This again was in Los Angeles. And it was just like a hang. He's like,

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hey, you want to go to the movie? Yeah, we'll go hang out in the movies. And Patricia,

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remembers going into the movie theater, doesn't remember anything because she fell asleep.

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It fell fast asleep. Ah, I've only she were here, then I could, uh, I could really hammer

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into her about how she falls asleep at all. The all movies we ever go to, at least all the

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ones that I like going to. I think it was probably total recall or something. Anyway, as I said,

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Pacific Coast Hellways up next for those of you checking us out on serious stars 102.

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And don't forget that rotating guest lot show. You, you do not want to miss that. It's coming

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up just a bit later. And we'll be on all this week, um, except actually I will be on every single

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day this week, um, bringing you the best of, uh, of the pod show on serious. Have a good one, everybody.

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Now for those of you still sticking around. Let me just look, I wrote down a couple, uh, a couple

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of different things I was going to talk about some MTV stories. Uh, what should we do? Uh,

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another, uh, another celebrity hitting on me this time. You like this? Uh, it was Marty Grah.

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In I think it was 90 or 91, uh, MTV used to do live at Marty Grah. I think this was the second year

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they'd done it. And I have to say that was a fantastic time to have basically a police escort

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24 hours a day because, you know, there was no other way you could get through the crowds if you

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needed to get to the, to the, to the French quarter to do, uh, do your segments back from the hotel.

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It's just no way. And, and New Orleans police really knew how to, how to take care of, uh, of logistics,

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particularly in big crowds, just amazing how much patience they have and, and, and how well it

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will always work. So we were doing, I think it was three days of Marty Grah. And you can imagine that

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basically everybody is partying. You're not just the people around us, but the artists who came

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down, uh, the other celebrities who were brought on to the show, uh, we were all partying the

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camera. People were partying. Everyone was partying. It was just one big party. And this is actually

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the predecessor to all those spring break shows. I think it, I think someone just caught on

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saying, you know what? Let's just figure out what we can go party and then we'll put a budget together.

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So we can, uh, party. Oh, yeah. And we'll also do some television. Um, but it was during that

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particular, on by the way, you know, Patricia was really into the whole show as your tits thing.

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she has some nice ones to show, you know, the guys. Uh, but then, um, Matt Dylan started hating on me.

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Matt Dylan and, and I can't remember, there was some other, I don't know, I think she was an

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actress. She had, gosh, my brain is so fraught. I wish I could remember. He was like, yeah, you know,

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the three of us should hook up with this other actress. I'm like, dude, I don't think so.

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Want another one? How about the Michael Jackson weekend? I think I've told this story before.

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But, um, and by the way, I have no, uh, crazy, uh, stories about, uh, massive drinking and drug abuse.

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I've, I've never really seen that at MTV. Really, never in, in the almost eight years that I

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worked there, never really saw any massive party and going on at any of the offices or studios.

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Yes, some of the executives, but they weren't all different building. And they always did a kind of

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quietly. So Michael Jackson was, uh, slated to appear on the video music awards. And, you know,

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the music business, of course, the traditional mainstream music business. Everything's, uh,

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part of a deal or a setup. Nothing wrong with it, by the way. But when you get Michael Jackson on the

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video music awards, you know you're going to have to do something in return. And that's something,

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uh, consisted of two parts. One was the Michael Jackson weekend. And yeah, I can't remember which

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video was a world premiering or planetary premiering, remember those. But, you know, we, of course,

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MTV committed to doing a Michael Jackson weekend, which basically means four times an hour,

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maybe five times an hour you would see a Michael Jackson video. And this, of course, is in hours

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when every single, uh, when everything set the commercials was a music video. And he also wanted

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it his own award. And, uh, and it had to be given to him, uh, the first time round. And so what was

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concocted was the Michael Jackson video Vanguard of the Year award. And it's not just the

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video Vanguard award. It was, I don't know if they, uh, they probably don't say that anymore. They

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may not even give the award out anymore. But that was the point a new award category was to be created

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called the video Vanguard, the, sorry, the Michael Jackson video Vanguard award. Kind of like the,

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the Heisman trophy. Yeah. Um, and, and part of that, and that was interesting is that I had to

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give it to him. And this was, um, this was 1990 Patricia was very, very pregnant. And I mean,

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she was about ready to pop. And I'm like, dude, I'm not going to fly to Los Angeles. I don't give

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a fuck if it's Michael Jackson. I'm not going, you know, I can't leave my wife here alone. And even

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though we knew she had two weeks, you know, anything could happen. So, um, MTV just kept begging.

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This is when they'd still beg me to do shit before they started to just like me,

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because of my attitude. And finally, I said, look, you fly my mother-in-law over first class.

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I'll go to Los Angeles. I'll do one day. I'll come back on the red eye. I'd, you know, and they

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did understand in all honesty. Um, so they finally complied and, um, flew to LA with Tom

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Freston, uh, who now, of course, is, uh, head of Viacom. Yeah, he was head of MTV networks at the time.

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He's a partier, by the way. And, um, we show up at the MJJ Studios, uh, Michael Jackson's

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own studio. And it was a very, very weird vibe, you know, come in and I swear to God, there must have been

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there must have been eight or nine kids running around. And they had their pretty young, um, and it

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got even more interesting because, uh, how he Mandel was, was there kind of like in the lounge area.

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And he was just kind of like hanging out, you know, and he, and he was doing the Bobby, Bobby's

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world voices, and these kids were, it was, it was a very bizarre scene just in general.

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And so, uh, you know, all right, let's, uh, let's do the, uh, let's do the award and, uh, you know,

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my, I was all Michael kind of roaming around and it was very, very soft spoken and you said,

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hi, he's not a small guy, by the way. He's got to be about six feet tall, close to it. Maybe

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even a little over, it's quite tall, slender. Um, so I have the award and, you know, we get ready for the,

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for a little video segment that we're going to do. And of course, a photographer is there.

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meet the left, Tom Freston to the right. And this is one guy who's only job at was was to Windex,

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Michael's shiny pants. I think they were latex or they were obviously more leather, but some kind of

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synthetic material. And so it, every, every five minutes. Rubbing it down. Okay, we're ready,

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everything shiny, we're all good to go. And, uh, we're standing next to each other and I start and

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then all of a sudden, I can see Michael, like kind of motion over to his guy and his guy comes over and

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Guy leaves, you know, and we're all waiting like what the

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fuck was what, what is this all about? Guy comes back with an apple crate and he puts it down

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to the Michael can stand on the apple crate. So he is literally seven feet tall. I have a picture

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somewhere. It's been on, it's, I've published it on the internet a couple of times. I'll see if, uh,

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actually it might even be on my flicker account. And you'll see Michael Jackson literally stands,

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you know, four, five inches taller than I am, because he existed on standing on the apple crate.

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All right, I have no more. Yeah, I do have more. Should I do the, um, you know what, I'll keep the,

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the Sebastian Bach from Skid Row, uh, Red Square, Moscow Music Peace Festival. I think I'll keep that

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one for, uh, for another day. What I will bestow upon you, however, is one of the finalists for

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Here's one of the finalists. So I believe it's already one $250, but uh, or $200, but it's vying for

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the grand prize.

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You know what? If that were actually one of the finalists, I would be amazed.

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That's another song I wanted to play for. Hey, everyone. This is Eugene tomorrow. My question

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for you is this. How long have you been with your internet service provider? How many times have

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internet service. Yeah, you know, as songs kind of go, it was pilot error, and I do apologize,

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but this is a song that I found on the pod save music now, where I can shoot since you've already

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heard it. Why don't we just play it? It's an instrumental at something different for the Charlie.

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It's a jazz track on the Charlie. Monica Herbsick. Just something fun.

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So, jazz on the Charlie. True American art form. And let me make a prediction.

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Jazz Swing. It's coming back. I guarantee you. You know how I know it's coming back,

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because you can feel it. You can feel it all over the pod save music.network at music.podshow.com.

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I kind of feel like I've done it. You guys have a disservice. I've been so

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mellow and tired this morning. I hope you don't mind. I hope you're able to sit through this,

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particularly because the show notes didn't tell you about that. I'll think up some other

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headline. I'll be back tomorrow. I promise I guess some sleeping will make my page work. Take

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everybody. Oh, sometimes I forget that. Another podshow podcast. Stick it in your ear.

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