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13 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,320 Adam, what all bands? 14 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,320 Coming home soon, taking off episode 15 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,320 477 of the Charlie, Delhi source code 16 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,320 Coming to you from San Francisco, California, it's going to be another beautiful day 17 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,320 And no cow, and I feel like shit 18 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,320 Oh man, I haven't been this sick in a long, long time 19 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,320 And so when I play a song like that, of course you can find it in the pod 20 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,320 Same music now, works like, ah, you know what I need right now? 21 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,320 I need some Patricia chicken soup 22 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,320 Ah, long time listeners will know that Patricia's chicken soup with ginger 23 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,320 is the only thing that really helps against this 24 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,320 It's just been shit, shit, shit 25 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,320 I hate it, I hate it when my body lets me down 26 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:26,320 Everybody how you doing, it's damn early here in San Francisco 27 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,320 But another full day ahead, please 28 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,320 Anyone who's hearing this at the office 29 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Remind me, I've got to go to black market magic 30 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,320 I've got to go pay for the equipment that I so far been borrowing 31 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,320 It's like, like every single day this week 32 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,320 It's been like, oh, what time is it? 33 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Oh shit, it's a quarter to eight 34 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,320 I don't think it's open anymore, I gotta go during lunch 35 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,320 Ah, lots of things to talk about today 36 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,320 Some rather big news stories 37 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,320 And some small news stories 38 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,320 But there is an important story that we're following right now 39 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Which of course is the continuing theory of folders versus scrunchers 40 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,320 I've discovered that I as a lifelong, lifelong folder 41 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,320 Actually scrunch toilet paper 42 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,320 When I blow my nose and it seems that we're on to something here 43 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,320 Yeah, I'm Jeff Smith, I think you're on to something 44 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,320 I am a scruncher, but when I blow my nose, I fold it up 45 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,320 And a nice little square 46 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,320 Hmm, oh, interesting 47 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,320 I'm telling you there's something there, there's a correlation 48 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,320 Wait, that's Jeff Smith, the Jeff Smith from... 49 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:42,320 So, all I had to do of course was ask you guys 50 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,320 If we had any proof that North Korea had really lit up a nuke 51 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,320 If there was any seismic activity 52 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,320 And immediately messages started coming in 53 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,320 I got to actually post it yesterday on korea.com 54 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,320 I posted a link to a map that shows a 4.2 55 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,320 On the Richter scale of seismic activity in North Korea 56 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Interestingly enough, the report is at surface level 57 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,320 So it wasn't apparently a deep explosion 58 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,320 But more people have been after this data 59 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Hey, and this is young, I'm just posting to your daily source code 60 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,320 From, well, today and I can't just leave the game 61 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,320 I'm on a plot right now, just end all of it 62 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:27,320 Well, anyway, the nuke in North Korea was 3.5, 4.5 63 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,320 On the Richter scale, I've heard both 64 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,320 They said it wasn't very big, or as big as the North Koreans wanted 65 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,320 It's the big, or that's what they say 66 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,320 But the missiles is true, they're over-exaggerating that 67 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,320 But I've been reading that North Korea has quite a few submarines 68 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,320 They have, say, you could bring them into the cargo 69 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Or they could fly them in their planes 70 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,320 They're just, thanks to worry about why South Korea could fly in with their planes 71 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,320 So just, they're having it as a bad thing 72 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,320 Well, anybody having a nuke is kind of a bad thing 73 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,320 But just because they don't have a missile or a proper missile that can make California 74 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,320 They could just take it right into the bay 75 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,320 All right, pleasant thoughts, bye 76 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,320 And voter as I said yesterday 77 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,320 Bye, thanks 78 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,320 All right, this still doesn't, you know, it's not that I don't want to believe it 79 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Couldn't a large variety of explosive devices 80 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,320 Created 4.2 on the Richter scale 81 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,320 You know, how do we know that it wasn't actually a nuke that was lit up 82 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,320 And is this the only sides of nuke they can make? 83 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,320 You know, there's all kinds of things to consider there 84 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,320 Now, I'll say right up front 85 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:46,320 That my uncle Don who, you know, I'm missing him again on this trip 86 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,320 But he has told me quite clearly, he says they're nuts in North Korea 87 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,320 Kim, Kim Yang Il 88 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,320 Is absolutely nuts 89 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,320 So if they had a nuke, yeah, he would probably use it 90 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,320 But it could, you know, look at this guy 91 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,320 He's totally, he's all image, you know, look at his hair 92 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,320 Look at his posture, look at his clothes 93 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,320 You know, his clothes really say 94 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,320 Hey, I'm the most important dude in the room 95 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,320 The glasses, the logger-filled glasses 96 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,320 He could be a very brilliant strategist in that regard 97 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,320 And I'm just wondering, I don't know anything about nuke 98 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,320 I don't know anything about nuclear fission 99 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,320 Or fusion 100 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,320 Simon Test does who's in the UK Simon 101 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,320 You're the expert on nuclear stuff 102 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,320 Once you dial in 103 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,320 And give me the opinion on this stuff 104 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,320 Okay 105 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,320 Because so far, yeah, there was a seismic activity 106 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,320 4.2 in the Richter scale 107 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,320 That doesn't seem like a huge deal 108 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,320 I mean, it depends on where it takes place 109 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:54,320 But just from my recent recollection of actual earthquakes 110 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,320 4.2 doesn't seem like it's like it's some huge deal 111 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,320 If you've got any information on that, you know what to call 112 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:08,320 1.2.1.6.2.5.6.3.5.7. 113 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,320 1.1.2.1.6.5.6.7. 114 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,320 1.2.1.6.6.7. 115 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,320 This week on the Big Break Music Podcast 116 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,320 You can hear the music and our interview 117 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,320 With Podsafe Music Artist Lisa Dames 118 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,320 As we explore her album, no one like me 119 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,320 Because it could have been me 120 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,320 The phone that's green or my face 121 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,320 On the cover of the magazine 122 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,320 Here, Lisa Dames as she reveals 123 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,320 The intimate and emotional story behind her songs 124 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,320 And then we went up into the studio 125 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,320 And he played it for me on the piano 126 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,320 And I just started crying 127 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,320 It's so hard to sing the song because I have to hold back so much 128 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,320 Because if I don't hold back, I will start crying 129 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,320 As I'm singing that song 130 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,320 And we get a behind-the-scenes look 131 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,320 Into the making of her chart climbing single 132 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,320 Just another day 133 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,320 And we get to hear about the fun times as well 134 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,320 In time we get it, we just get a little bit right here 135 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,320 And a little bit right here 136 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,320 Here 137 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,320 So check it out by going to 138 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,320 The Big Break Podcast.com 139 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,320 Or search for the Big Break in iTunes 140 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,320 Big Break Podcast and Lisa Dames 141 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,320 Oh, check this one out everybody 142 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,320 I mean we might as well stay in the country vibes 143 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,320 Since we're doing 144 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,320 We're going to a sad life repair man 145 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,320 Coming after you 146 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,320 Sad life repair man 147 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,320 What's he gonna do? 148 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,320 Sad life repair man 149 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,320 Sad life repair man 150 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,320 Yeah 151 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,320 Everybody 152 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,320 That's not like I have anything from PW to play for you 153 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,320 But yeah, you go from one country promo 154 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,320 Just about this North Korean thing again 155 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,320 The only reason I'm bringing it up 156 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,320 Is because it was not that long ago 157 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,320 That we were led to believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction 158 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,320 Capability 159 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,320 Capabilities 160 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,320 And I quite distinctly remember 161 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,320 Areal photographs showing 162 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,320 Possible launch sites, build sites, vials 163 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,320 Of anthrax 164 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,320 Remember that 165 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,320 G 166 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,320 So, you know, I'm just saying 167 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,320 It's like okay, we've got all these 168 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,320 You know, all these pictures of 169 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Of ill walking around 170 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,320 Looking from mighty important 171 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,320 Of course, it's all file footage 172 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,320 Of rockets launching an air 173 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,320 Of course, it's all file footage 174 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,320 And we've got a statement from them 175 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,320 Which is new 176 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,320 We've got nukes 177 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,320 North Korean 178 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,320 But I presume it's exactly what he said 179 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,320 And we have some seismic activity 180 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,320 That to me does not prove it's a nuk 181 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,320 But, you know, okay 182 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,320 I don't know what it takes to make nukes 183 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,320 Let's see what they're saying over in 184 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,320 In blighty about the deal 185 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,320 Hello Adam Lee from UK yet 186 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,320 While you're off in America then 187 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,320 I thought I'd just tell you something 188 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,320 I was really guardians of day 189 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,320 The 10th to the 10th to the 6th 190 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,320 And it's the the moment North Korea became a nuclear player 191 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,320 And on the front page 192 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,320 There was a huge fire in the grass 193 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,320 Extract 194 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,320 It's certainly nice 195 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,320 A seismograph in the geoscience Australia 196 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,320 Identifies North Korean nuclear threats 197 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,320 About the US medical survey 198 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,320 It's a magnitude 4.2 seismic event 199 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,320 So, if you really get on the Guardian website 200 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,320 I'm sure we'll be off a look at the picture 201 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,320 And I'm quite a bit sure 202 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,320 It's quite a 203 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Physmal spike at the time 204 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,320 When North Korea said it's designated 205 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,320 And it's matched it as well 206 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,320 But there you go 207 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,320 If not I am 208 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,320 If we'd be locked on to the US 209 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,320 A logical server website that has it on there 210 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,320 Maybe the geoscience Australia 211 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,320 South America, I think British geographical 212 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,320 And even also pick it up as well 213 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,320 But it won't be as strong 214 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,320 Because anyway 215 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,320 That's about all these moments 216 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,320 I don't I'm now at university here in Cardiff 217 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,320 So no longer in Birmingham 218 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,320 I'm now in Wales 219 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,320 Oh 220 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,320 Cardiff 221 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Where my girlfriend Charlotte Church lives 222 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,320 Have you ever seen the Charlotte Church show? 223 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,320 If you live in the UK? 224 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,320 It's interesting because she's competing partially 225 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,320 With Jonathan Ross, the big Friday night talk show 226 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,320 Which has been gone going for years 227 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,320 Which is also a fantastic show 228 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,320 I love the Jonathan Ross show 229 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,320 But this Charlotte Church show 230 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,320 It starts half hour before 231 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,320 Before Jonathan Ross and since that's on channel 4 I believe 232 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,320 She's nuts 233 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,320 Charlotte Church was the child prodigy 234 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,320 Who sang classic opera 235 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,320 When she was I think 12 or 13 236 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,320 Really took the world by storm 237 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,320 And she's turned into quite a media celebrity in the UK 238 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,320 And she's funny 239 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,320 She's funny and deering the shows 240 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Kind of a mess 241 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,320 But there's something about it 242 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,320 That I really like 243 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,320 When the show came out people really slagged her off 244 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,320 And she does it from Cardiff 245 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,320 She says it's from Cardiff 246 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Which is where she's from 247 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,320 I think it's a studio in London 248 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,320 But that's okay 249 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,320 A little bit of media hype is all right 250 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,320 I mean yeah 251 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,320 If North Korea has the capability to do a media hype 252 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,320 I wouldn't start a church 253 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,320 I 254 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Yes 255 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,320 And I love it when you guys correct me on my grammar 256 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,320 Adam I got to correct you 257 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,320 You were talking 258 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Playing a call from 259 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Either Mary and Carla 260 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Karen and whatever our name was 261 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,320 And you corrected her grammatical 262 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,320 You think she should have said 263 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,320 Carla and I 264 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,320 But did you a wrong? 265 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:13,320 She had a right 266 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,320 It was Carla and me 267 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,320 The sense of something like 268 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,320 I'm at the bunch of people at the podcast 269 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Text bell including me and Carla 270 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,320 Why she has this correct you a wrong dude 271 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,320 It's not the first time you made that mistake 272 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,320 She only correct you 273 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,320 Well dude are you so sure dude 274 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,320 All right 275 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,320 I know that someone out there who's going to go back and listen to yesterday's episode 276 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,320 And see if I was right or wrong 277 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,320 I've always been taught it's 278 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,320 And I 279 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,320 Not and me and I think that's I think she said Carla and me not me and Carla 280 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,320 And I believe it's it would be Carla and I 281 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,320 Of course 282 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,320 It being Carla and I or Karen and I 283 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,320 It's all just a pipe dream 284 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,320 But a girl can dream right you know what I'm saying 285 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Yeah 286 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,320 Long time 287 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,320 She heard about the crash 288 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,320 And then hadn't yesterday 289 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,320 Pitch for New York and I think it's quite a lot 290 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,320 I don't remember some trouble 291 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,320 I guess and wound up 292 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,320 Session to a apartment complex on the upper west side 293 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,320 So we'll be interested to hear your thoughts on that 294 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,320 I'm definitely pretty far behind 295 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,320 So we're also looking forward to hearing 296 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,320 You really thoughts on 297 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,320 Before we get to that 298 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,320 Let's let's pause here for a second with Corey Lidal 299 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,320 Because the same thing really 300 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,320 You know 301 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,320 Ever since I heard this yesterday afternoon 302 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,320 We were at the office 303 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,320 And it was a little unclear it was going on of course 304 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,320 You know for a brief moment there is shock waves 305 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,320 I go you know spread throughout the country and throughout the world 306 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,320 The first thing everyone thought is oh my gosh, you know another plane into a building 307 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,320 And every single news reporter would say 308 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,320 Five years on one month to the date 309 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,320 Because of course it was on the 11 so they had some kind of hook there 310 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Some kind of tie in 311 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,320 But it was a very unfortunate accident 312 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,320 And when I heard this when I heard a small craft crashing into a 313 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Into a building you know I immediately think wow 314 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,320 You know this is there's something very wrong 315 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,320 In fact I was like I'd be leave suicide before 316 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,320 I believe that a freak accent like that happened 317 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,320 And I started to amass the information 318 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Very very hard to get any valuable information 319 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,320 On this particular story from mainstream news 320 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,320 And again, it just goes to show that when you actually know something about a topic 321 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,320 How piss poor just piss poor 322 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,320 The news media is at reporting 323 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,320 Now they get some things right like fire 324 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,320 We could see that you know 325 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:41,320 The level of floor of the apartment that the fire is on you know that stuff 326 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:47,320 I saw Bloomberg report that the CR20 aircraft was a 15 seat passenger plane 327 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,320 You know it's like no it's not it's a four-seater 328 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,320 Okay, so 329 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,320 And there was actually there was one I think it was on 330 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:01,320 I don't know if it was on Larry King. It was I think it was definitely CNN at one point 331 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,320 A former executive for the National Aviation Transportation Board 332 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,320 The NATB 333 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,320 Came on and this was clearly a guy who had 334 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,320 Researched a couple of facts and I must have been an airman because he did have some great information 335 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,320 So let me start by saying 336 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Here's the information that I've collected that I believe to be 337 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,320 You know some of the facts. First of all Corey Lidal 338 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:33,320 Was a pilot who had 400 hours of experience 339 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Any experience pilot will tell you that there is definitely a spike in accidents 340 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:45,320 Pilate error based accidents when pilots have between three and 400 hours 341 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,320 That is just about the time where you're feeling very comfortable 342 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,320 In fact they had a couple of 343 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,320 Guys really horrible and they've flown along with him in his previous aircraft 344 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:01,320 I guess a system 172 probably for some TV special or something that he did or some profile of him 345 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,320 And you hear him saying you know how comfortable he feels in the air 346 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,320 And that's exactly 347 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:11,320 The issue with these three to 400 hour pilots and and this has been told to me many many times when I reached 348 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,320 About 253 hundred hours the wind commander my instructor said dude 349 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,320 This is where you really got a fucking watch your shit because now you think you got it all down 350 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,320 You know what you're doing and something really fucking crazy can happen 351 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,320 So let's just put that right up front and 352 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,320 And I think that is actually provable by statistics that once you get to the three four hundred hours 353 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,320 Is a private pilot that's where really normally shit can happen 354 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,320 And it's purely a confidence issue so it's all about pilot error 355 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,320 Okay, what else did we learn? 356 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:45,320 We learned from from this guy from the NATB or formerly of the NATB that there was a cloud ceiling of 1500 feet 357 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:55,320 But in the the Eastern corridor of New York in order to fly there under the configuration that light 358 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,320 I was flying the type of aircraft 359 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,320 The type of license he has flying under visual flying rules visual flight rules 360 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:11,320 He was apparently at 1100 feet now 1100 feet is okay. It's not really high. You know it really isn't it's about 300 meters 361 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:16,320 So if you have an engine failure you're going to be on the ground relatively quickly 362 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,320 It's it's just a fact of you know a physics 363 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:25,320 So he was coming from north to south going down the east side of Manhattan 364 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,320 Manhattan 365 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:33,320 There was again according to the NATB former executive there was a rather strong wind from the east 366 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:43,320 So if you're flying along the Eastern corridor of Manhattan and the wind is coming from the east and it's relatively strong 367 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,320 If you have if you're under full powered flight and your engine is working 368 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:53,320 You actually will not be your your aircraft will not be pointed straight on a north to south track 369 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,320 You'll actually be pointing into the wind is very much like sailing 370 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:03,320 Where's you don't notice this when you're flying in a commercial airliner 371 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:08,320 You really don't notice it in any aircraft unless you're up front but you're actually flying sideways 372 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,320 And that's because the wind is pushing you 373 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,320 You know in the opposite direction of which the wind is coming 374 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,320 So if you have an engine failure 375 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,320 You know you're going to have to think about 376 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:30,320 You know what am I going to do because the wind is obviously going to become a more powerful force as you have less power 377 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,320 And you still have inertia and momentum 378 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,320 So you know if you turn into the wind you're going to slow down significantly 379 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,320 If you turn away from the wind 380 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,320 With the wind to the back you know you obviously powered or not powered you're going to be you know flying faster 381 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,320 And you're going to be going towards Manhattan 382 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,320 So from some of the some of the eye witness accounts 383 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:56,320 Some people said they thought it was a helicopter which is kind of weird now 384 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,320 You know a serious SR20 can look like a helicopter so I can understand where they're coming from 385 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,320 But others were saying that it looked like was kind of out of control like it was dipping left and right 386 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:14,320 And then there's a unconfirmed report of a made a about a either fuel starvation or 387 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,320 Something wrong with the fuel system 388 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,320 So when I put this all together 389 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,320 Oh and by the way visibility was eight or nine miles that was what was reported is eight or nine miles 390 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:29,320 So mind you only a 400 feet under the cloud cover it could easily have been a little bit hazy 391 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:35,320 You know these reports I've had lots of eight to nine mile clear visibility reports and you get up there 392 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,320 And you're like yeah it's more kind of like four you know that just happens 393 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,320 So that's all we know from the ground reporting or the terminal area forecast 394 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,320 So here's oh and then the final piece of information which is really really critical 395 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,320 Crap I don't know if I'm going to get this whole story and for you serious stars one or two listeners I really hope I do 396 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,320 Shit it's a good story 397 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,320 Apparently Corey also had his instructor on board 398 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,320 Now you'd think that would make it a very very safe situation 399 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:12,320 Well that really depends on the instructor and I have to say you know having been flying with the a safety pilot or instructor for a 400 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:18,320 Well for most of my flying actually I love having someone on the right hand seat even though I'm doing all the work 401 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:27,320 You know when situations occur and instructor will typically let you deal with the situation and maybe jump in and do something 402 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,320 If necessary now when it comes to an emergency 403 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,320 Particular something where the engine may fail a lot of the instrumentation 404 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:43,320 For solving that issue is on the left-hand side of the aircraft. It's it's in the pilot seat. That's where the ignition key is 405 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:50,320 That's where the fuel pipe. Oh in the series SR20 the fuel pump may actually be located in the middle on the middle console 406 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,320 Ask shit. Hey serious guys gals daily source code.com 407 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:01,320 If you want to hear the rest of my theory about Corey light. Oh, sorry about that windows closed and p-dub shut me out can't help anything 408 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,320 All right, we're still here, right 409 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,320 So a lot of that of the controls and instrumentation for engine management are on the pilot seats 410 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,320 So I'm just going to go into just assume that the pilot 411 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,320 Corey light on this case was sitting left seat and had most of the controls so 412 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,320 Here's what I believe may have happened and and the whole theory 413 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,320 gets more believable with the visibility 414 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,320 With knowing more about visibility and the actual strength of the wind coming from the east, but here's what I think could have happened 415 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,320 They're flying along 416 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:49,320 And they're going north to south and there's this eastern Lee strong, eastern Lee wind and the engine quits and I guess they determine that it is because 417 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,320 Either their tank or tanks are empty 418 00:25:54,320 --> 00:26:00,320 But what they essentially try I believe is by rocking the wings back and forth banking 419 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,320 You know some significant banking which could give an out of control look 420 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:11,320 They may have actually been trying to have fuel spill over from either of the tanks to get into the ignition into the car 421 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,320 Rator into the ignition 422 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:20,320 I'm not completely 100% down on how the serious fuel flow system works 423 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,320 I'm sure that the fuel pump is necessary 424 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,320 I don't think it's a gravity-based system since it's a low wing 425 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,320 So they were probably trying to 426 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Get the engine restarted and get some fuel flow and you know back in by rocking the wings 427 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:43,320 Now while this is taking place while you're doing this rocking the wings remember that the wind if strong enough is really pushing 428 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,320 The aircraft towards Manhattan now I've only seen some 429 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,320 Some flight paths that you know look like it might have been this particular aircraft flight path 430 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:00,320 They may actually done a 360 and no matter which way they turn that 360 431 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:07,320 If they're trying to rock the wings and trying to restart this stuff and you're to eleven hundred feet 432 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,320 And you're you're descending 433 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,320 You're going to be on the ground in just a couple minutes as no two ways about it 434 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,320 And I believe what happened here is the instructor made a bad decision 435 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,320 The instructor probably said you know, and if he were flying a left seat and he was in total control 436 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:29,320 It may have had a different outcome and this is again, it's just a theory, you know, and no one has to blame this is just how shit goes 437 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,320 I believe the instructor probably said dude, let's try and restart this thing 438 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,320 Rock the wings 439 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,320 Let's see if we can get some fuel flowing 440 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,320 They're probably doing this while 441 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,320 Turning 442 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:47,320 Out of the wind because you know when when you have an emergency like that you don't want to turn into the wind immediately 443 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,320 You want to get the best glide so you can stay in the air the longest so you have the long you know the most 444 00:27:54,320 --> 00:28:00,320 Opportunity to find a place to land and guess what there is only one answer in this case there's only one place in fact 445 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,320 I believe when this happened 446 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,320 They should have immediately said, okay, we're going into the river there's no two ways about it 447 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,320 We're going into the river and you know you can try your restarts on your way down into the river 448 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:19,320 But what probably happened is they're trying to get their best glide they're drifting towards Manhattan 449 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:26,320 They're rocking the wings they may have both had heads down looking at the fuel pump looking at gauges trying to start some stuff 450 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:32,320 You go into another turn you've lost track of how far the wind push you you look up and you crash into the fucking building 451 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:40,320 I think that is exactly what happened and it's it's horrible and it's and there's no reason that it had to happen 452 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:47,320 It's just one of these things where all these elements come together at the wrong time and it's it's horrific 453 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:56,320 And it's bad for aviation it's it's bad for for people who were involved in this and lost lives and and property etc 454 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,320 But it really just sucks 455 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:07,320 Particularly because this type of aircraft and this is I think then I don't know how many of these seerses have crashed 456 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,320 But this is the only general aviation aircraft that I know of that has a ballistic parachute 457 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,320 And I'm not a big fan of that because you know essentially there's a there's a red handle in the roof 458 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,320 And if you run into trouble you pull that handle an actual you know rocket 459 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:31,320 Explode and blast off with a parachute which can help the aircraft float down to the ground 460 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:40,320 Don't for one single minute think that that is in dangerous or that you're you know you have a 100% chance of survivability because you do not 461 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:47,320 You know you're probably going to wreck the airframe you could harm yourself particularly your back, you know 462 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:53,320 The seats are designed to to withstand a certain amount of G forces upon impact 463 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,320 But you could you know still be seriously messed up, but the chances of survival are pretty good 464 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:06,320 I personally I don't think an aircraft manufacturer that supplies aircraft with a parachute says a lot about you know what they think of their product 465 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,320 And it's a and it's a very popular aircraft the SR20 and the SR22 466 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:20,320 And these guys never deployed it and again, I think that's because there was an instructor onboard and you know when you deploy the shoot you're kissing the plane goodbye 467 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,320 You know, yeah, it may be salvageable, but 468 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:30,320 The shoot was not deployed these shoots have been deployed I think nine times so far with varying results 469 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:36,320 Some people walk away some people have been pretty seriously injured despite deploying the parachute 470 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:45,320 And I think it's just a whole bunch of unfortunate events that occurred all at the same time and I truly believe that that's what happened 471 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:52,320 And I know there's a lot of pilots and aviators who listen to the daily source code, so wouldn't mind hearing from you guys what you think about it 472 00:30:52,320 --> 00:31:00,320 You know, I'm going to stop the show now. I'm so bummed out about that I really am and I'm feeling like shit and I got to work to do 473 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:08,320 Hey, tomorrow will be football Friday. I promise you that I'll take lots of night quill tonight and I'll have all kinds of 474 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:18,320 Tylenol and and caffeine for tomorrow morning so we can really kick off the the weekend with a rock and fucked up beyond our repair daily source code 475 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,320 So send in your pod safe music tunes 476 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,320 Well, this stuff you want to recommend. I'm sure that the official music colleges of the Charlie Josie Todd will be checking in as well 477 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:33,320 One song that I left for you today. This is you know, I love the shakes with Liberty Jones and what pops up on the pod safe music network is a new version of it 478 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:39,320 And of course, you know, I love this stuff about, you know, pod safe music because you can release whatever you want whatever you want and it's a whole new version of the song 479 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:45,320 In this case, it's say duet with the or a yeah, to the shakes and featuring lady A 480 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,320 That's all I know about her and of course the song is titled Liberty Jones 481 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,320 Have a little little tea Jones 482 00:31:54,320 --> 00:35:50,320 [ Music ] 483 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,320 I wish that you or my we can go back to my place 484 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,320 Liberty, you're so free 485 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,320 Liberty, you're so free 486 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,680 course links to both songs played on today's show in the show notes at dailysourcecode.com. 487 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,720 Show was brought to you part by Splenda. I'm actually considering giving these guys some of their 488 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:24,760 money back because you guys listening are so excited about Splenda. I had no idea this seems to 489 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:31,400 be an entire culture of mixing these flavors together to come up with new exotic taste for 490 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,680 your coffee. So Splenda is a sugar substitute. It comes in the yellow packets and it comes in 491 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:43,640 was it French vanilla, hazelnut and one other one. It's only three flavors I think it is. 492 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,800 So a lot of you have been sending me emails about what you mix it with to get that perfect 493 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:57,640 taste of coffee to come up with new blends. Send me that stuff in audio. This is great. This is the 494 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,920 advertising does it just makes itself once again I love it. 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Tomorrow was a sad food bar Friday 496 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:13,240 we're going to have some fun hopefully I'll be a little bit more together and I just did want to say 497 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:18,760 obviously thoughts and prayers go out to all of those involved in the Corey Lightle incident 498 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:26,360 and crap man look what's happened in the world that's just a little thing you know we're all 499 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:32,200 look at how consumed I am with that and what's happening in Iraq and around the world 500 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:38,040 and soon Korea North Korea Iran what is going on what was me 501 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,040 Dr. Namara another pod show podcast stick it in your ear 502 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,760 get this podcast and more great ones like it on the high performance podcast delivery network 503 00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:00,200 from pod show and limelight networks. I love it