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I'm living it's been Christmas here

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Oh, bubble Christmas here on Mars from the pod save music network hey everybody how you doing it's daily source code

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Episode number 515 thanks to Andrew Grummit for the for the opening of today's show almost like let me at some wrong

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Well, yeah, there's something wrong with the cable

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Andrew Grummit put together the who's 515

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I'm back at the cottage. It's a shitty outside man. It's cold, you know for as

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As dark and and dank as San Francisco was it wasn't this cold and we've got the real true London fog today

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Just rolling throughout the city

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If I look out the window I can probably see about I'd say about 500 feet it's the entire distance I can see it's just one of those

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Yeah, one of those pre-Christmas days in the United Kingdom good to be back arrived yesterday after you know

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My typical 10 hour flight from San Francisco pretty un-eventful

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I was completely prepared to not have any new movies on the in flight entertainment system

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They pretty good about changing it every single month

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I'll talk about that a little bit later on in the show

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Because there's a lot to go through

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First thing that's real bummer is all of a sudden for some reason

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We call it text and it I can receive I can make calls. I can access the internet through the data connection

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And I and I received stuff but I wasn't able can you I always sent Patricia little message when I land saying you know landed safely

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What ever airport? I've landed at that point in time and

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The error code is four five five zero and of course

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No one can figure it out well it could be the the you're roaming on team mobile UK and that could be a problem so and it just I feel incomplete

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I feel really incomplete when I can't send the text messages. It's bothersome particularly with Patricia gone

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taping last night of dancing dancing with the stars and she did very well

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I'm under complete embargo. I'm not allowed to tell you how everything went because the shows aren't being broadcast until

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Was it I think Christmas

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So I'm because there's points involved and all the even though it doesn't matter because it's all for charity

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I'm not allowed to tell you but she was very excited and she had a great time and I know why man because just imagine

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Like a little over two years ago. She was in the intensive care unit

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You know near heart attack and now two and a half years later she's dancing full-scale competition doing the

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I can't well hopefully now. I'm gonna force her to be on the show tomorrow. She's got to tell us how it went

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Of course going through the mail when you come back after you're like two weeks of being away

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Just lovely little messages from people around the world saying I want my money. Yes, it's built time

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Adam here's the only hand luggage you'll need in 2007 happy holidays

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Tim Shriver and met him Saturday night. I got talk. I got so much to tell you

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To retrieve Steve's message from your iPod

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Follow these four easy steps. Well, I'm not gonna follow no steps. I want to hear the message so

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Hold on a second. Let me just open this up. Let me let's listen to this together and see if they had put a person

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I mean the my name on the card here Adam is in a different font and different color

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The cards are definitely computer generated

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Let's see if they were able to computer God. What do you need like a fucking blow torch to open this thing

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How does this work? Oh, I see okay sticker here. Oh, that's actually better than the blow torch

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I've never I've never purchased a nano. That's nice cute

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I think we can do that. Here we go

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You're pre oh this is how do they do this? I've heard about companies doing this and working with Apple on that. This is great

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They automatically subscribe me to the virgin Atlantic podcast feed which has

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Looks like all these are all these guides to different to how so that's guide to Sydney

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What's this Atlantic off beat London? Okay, so they put a podcast in there. That's pretty cool

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Where's my message from Steve? Is that his name Steve? Wait, I forgot. Yeah, Steve Ridgeway

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So this could be potentially very disobeyed. Oh, here it is Steve Ridgeway

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CEO message. All right, let's go

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Season's greeting to you from everyone at Virgin Atlantic. Okay. I can't think okay. I can't think

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Season's greetings Adam all right, let's try it again

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Season's greeting Adam from everyone at Virgin Atlantic

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I can't thank you enough for all the support you've given us yet again in the past year

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It's been an exciting time for us. We've opened new routes to Dubai

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Which was a major breakthrough and of course our holiday program is expanded with the new route to Jamaica

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We've carried on bringing our new aircraft so there's an even bigger fleet of A34600s

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Which keeps us right up there with our pledge to operate one of the world's youngest fleet

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upper class suite has continued to lead the pack as far as

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Business classes concerned and we're very proud that we still have the most beautiful cabin and the biggest and best bed that's out there flying

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You know, they could have done a little better job on the recording

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I mean what they do they they just went into his office and it's a hung a mic from the chandelier

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That sounds like crap, but we are not resting on our laurels more to come next year

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I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear that Chicago is back on the list

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The next year we sadly came out of the Chicago market after September 11th

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But it's great to be going back in we're going to give our competitors a great run for their money as usual

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And I hope we can see you on our Chicago flight if you want to be a relaxation

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Then there's a new program in the Indian Ocean with Mauritius starting at the end of next year and certainly everyone here

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at Atlantic tickly on the leisure side is really excited about that

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So enjoy playing with your iPod and downloading all the music commute should be a great companion for your trips

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But of course you can watch many many films when you're flying next and once again as I said at the beginning

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Really appreciate all the support you give us we couldn't do it without you and and I look forward to seeing you all again next year

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Season's greetings yes

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There are podcasts guides to other went to the podcast. Yes

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That's that's customer service man

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That's what an all about

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Hello, Adam this is Stella from Brisbane California

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I just talked through listening to Hoover Friday and I just thought

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I'd make a suggestion as regards your show about flying

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Let's lean the fool's because it sounds good flying fool sounds really good that how about soaring fool

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So soaringfools.com

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I don't think so. I mean don't you understand that flying fools feels better than soaring fools

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Soaring now. No, no, no, no flying fools. I'm gonna keep it at that

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Feature all the time within pod show by the way. That's great. I mean real

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Financial models and in spreadsheets. It's way too slow too cumbersome and not everything translates and

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Our new our new executive assistant Jamie Ross you said Adam if you'd like Google to open a new tab click on preferences on the Google main page

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Yeah, I did that

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But it doesn't work for notebook Jamie as nice, but it's funny in that because I like didn't even know that was Jamie from our office

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I just I just saw Jay Ross like a Jay Ross sent me some

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Hey portions of today's show are brought to you by brand new movie

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Which opens up hold on let me get all the details here

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The movie is called Stomp the Yard and it opens up January 12 now. This is from the same theater the same

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Who wanted us to promote a little man and you remember that that was a very successful movie and I love doing the

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I've really loved doing the the promotions for it because I hadn't seen it and they weren't gonna give me a DVD

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You know some serious message it's a new year everyone's in the new year's resolution. I think the timing is really good

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of this movie. It's about

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A troubled youth from Los Angeles attending the historically black truth university in Atlanta, Georgia and

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What adapting to his new environment proves difficult

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He finds solace in joining a struggling fraternity where he begins implementing his street style dance moves and attempt to help the step team

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When the coveted national step show championship

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Tony cost of cost as world is is producing that nice guy by the way

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Oh, oh, shit. No, it didn't happen. Oh, sorry. I want to see this movie because when I was in college for all four months that I was in college

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Now you have to know that my roommate tie Hamilton at the time this was 1980

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Was at 80 crap 81

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We would have said of each other. Oh, you know my roommate is black and he would have said my roommate is white

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These days of course we have to speak of African American and Caucasian and be very politically correct

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But it was about if it was a mixed school about 50 50 50 tie was from

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Trenton New Jersey and

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You know he became buddies and and I didn't really have any friends no one

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That I knew went to that school and of course he had a lot of people that he knew and

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And start hanging out and we were into the same music because I came from Amsterdam at the time

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It was literally the same music that that urban America was listening to so we got along famously through the bridge of music

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Most importantly and I hung out you know and then and then and then said hey you should pledge Kappa

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Which meant I didn't know it at the time when I said oh, yeah sure

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Sure I'll do that and meant carrying around a fucking brick a couple weeks

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But it was quite an experience and so I can't wait to see this movie should be very interesting

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People write me here as a man of the people of the world

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And nothing is as well

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So this is the it cuts off there unfortunately. That's the prolific programmer from San Francisco

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He's called the voicemail lines a number of times but it's been

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Reasonly unintelligible what he was saying or it was like so it was such a long story

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So the point here was that he appreciated me talking about to engineers on Friday's final thought of the week

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Yeah, man

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We love engineers. That's why I stood still for a moment to think about them

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Okay, back to the how are we doing on time me? Wow talking a lot of shit here today

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I see Brian and Nigma sense a whole thing about the

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I incorrectly said DMTF tones you know the tones that I was playing so you can automatically dial your phone

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It's actually DTMF dual tone multi frequency

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He's got a whole

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A whole history of where they come from

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See the whole system was designed so that

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Computers if yesterday or could understand what button you were pressing without direct being directly wired to the button

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And you couldn't accidentally make the sound of a button press. Oh, I'm sure people can do that

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I'm sure that there are people out there who can make those sounds. Where's my uh

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I have a little uh a little thing

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Not gonna have to go into my computer

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I'll be worth it for a second hold on let me see local disc

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This is the thing that's much easier on the Mac just to get you just go to applications and you're there and here I have to

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Search through a million different folders. Here it is

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What is this tone dialer? There you go. So the tones we're talking about are these

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I bet you there people out there who can make that noise

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Okay

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Try it record something send it to me

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I'll see if I can make a dial and make it a surprise make it something cool that we're gonna dial

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You know where to send it add them at podshow.com

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Radion records interesting article PD love from love house radio sent me that

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Oh shit I clicked on the link without opening a new tab

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So radion records is pretty much the Bible for for the radio business and

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They came to an amazing conclusion

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It's the content providing compiling content wins

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Says critical mass media is caroling Gilbert. Do you know there's one of the thousands of consultants

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Devoting the energy to finding out what they want and delivering it is the future of radio she asserted

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Yeah duh

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So they go on to talk about you know the new formats the jack format which I'm sure you've heard and then there's the move in format

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It has a fresh success and Seattle a thing that really got me here at the end so this was

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There was some panel. Where was this panel as a panel of marketing marks in in the radio business

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They underscore the importance of broadcasters using overnight to groom talent for the future and to

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Prime the audience well by spending more of a station's budget on marketing and promotions

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Well most in attendance seem to gravitate to the latter notion if you wondered where in these days of severe budget cuts that funding would come from

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That's right your fucking host

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Not that I feel good about it. You're welcome over here all of just

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All of just come on over to the dark side. That's plenty to do

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And got some great things we're gonna be talking about in the new year

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Not the least of which is the toddies

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Jersey Todd show is handing out awards. I was I don't know if I'm if I've been invited to present an award or not

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I was so busy. I couldn't make a part of my commitments to the toddies and I think I've been scrapped off the list

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But check out Jersey Todd show

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to listen to

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I think it's the first annual toddies

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Yes, and why don't we close out today

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Well, we are getting very near the day

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And if you look at the most played on the

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Podcast this week it's all Christmas tunes

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[ Music ]

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I had to listen this five times before I understood it.

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I'm not even going to go into that.

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So Sunday, just before I left, I picked up Pacific Coast Hellway,

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which was a collaboration on the heavily promoted interview with Jesus

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for his upcoming birthday.

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I got a tell you.

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I really liked it. It was very funny.

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Now I can understand, I do want to be sensitive.

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If you love Jesus, you may not like this whole idea.

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But I think it's all, it's all in good humor.

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It reminds me a lot of Mel Brooks interview with the 2000 year old man.

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Some of you may be old enough to remember that.

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I only remember because my parents happened to have that album hanging around the house.

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So I'm sure it's from at least the early 60s, maybe than late 50s.

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But just the whole idea reminded me of that very much.

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I got a promo with a couple of clips from it.

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This is Brian from audio attitude inviting you to listen to the Jesus interview.

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We talked about a lot of things, including what he was like as a kid.

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Yeah, I was a dick, really.

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What do you think of meetings?

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Year 300 AD.

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Minutes from the meeting.

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Gabriel.

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Blah, blah, blah.

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Same fucking thing every year.

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What the H means in Jesus H Christ?

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This is so embarrassing.

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I mean, you don't have to tell us what the middle initial is.

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My middle name is Hyman.

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Okay.

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And that's the problem.

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Folder or a scruncher.

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Oh, you know what?

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Actually, here's the beauty of it.

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Every time I take a shit.

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Perfect.

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I don't even have to wipe.

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Just like, boom, I mean, that's it.

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It's just like, it's a gift, man.

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It's just like one of those things.

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It's just like, I don't even have to really squeeze that hard.

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I just kind of like, there's a little moment.

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I take a little breath and go, and you know, drops in the ball.

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And I'm done.

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So clean as a whistle.

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You know, sometimes I'll check.

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But what does it smell like?

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You know what?

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It smells like.

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Here's the funny thing.

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It actually smells just a little bit.

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Just a tiny bit.

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You know what?

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This is going to be weird.

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This is a little too weird.

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I don't know if I can talk about this.

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No, that's okay.

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I'm curious because, you know,

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Okay, it smells just a little bit.

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Like Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

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I don't know.

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It's kind of a little bit that old lady's smell

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and a little bit of perfume.

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But it's, I don't know.

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I've never smelled Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

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And, well, come over sometime after I've had, you know, tacos.

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Here I come, Jesus.

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Jesus interview.

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Attitude.podshow.com.

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Yeah, you should listen to it.

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It's very funny.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how much of the, of the interview

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the guys that scripted out.

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Sometimes you can tell.

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I just cracking up.

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It's good.

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Last week, I talked about the new John Cleese podcast.

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It's not a new podcast, but it's first video,

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it's first video podcast.

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And while I was talking about that,

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I mentioned the guy who, I don't know if he's producing it

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or hosting and doing the RSS feeds

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or maybe he's doing all the production.

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Maybe he's writing it.

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I don't know.

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This guy named Dean Woodbread from the UK.

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And I said he was a dick.

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And this sparked off all kinds of controversy

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in the UK amongst the UK,

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the UK podcasters association.

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And I just wanted to, you know,

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it's like, oh, it's unbelievable.

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How important people think this is.

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So I wanted to elaborate a little bit on that.

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First of all, about brick caster itself.

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A brick caster is run by Neil,

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or was run by Neil.

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And he'd been running that way before I ever met him.

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And when we started talking,

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when podshow, when I said podshow is coming to the UK,

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when we'd be doing things,

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it was all of the speculation about,

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you know, Neil, you built this just for,

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for BT podshow, you're going to sell out.

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And you know, all of this fucking like,

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you know, it's a pruder type

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conspiracy theories.

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And you know, what of course happened is,

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as I could have predicted,

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which I didn't do,

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because I thought it actually might be

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a little bit different here in the UK

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that there might be a more sense of

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politeness and consideration.

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But most online communities that don't have

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a real community blow up,

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that's just the way it works,

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because everyone's on equal footing equal ground.

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And I've seen it hundreds of times.

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They just explode unless they're heavily moderated.

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And then of course, you know,

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really a community if there's some uber boss.

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And the problem is that podcasting

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cannot be a community,

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because it's a, it's a verb.

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You know, it's an action.

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It's a thing you do.

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And there is no right or wrong way.

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It's, you know,

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yes, there are conventions for broadcasters,

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like the NAB,

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NASA Association of Broadcasters,

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and they come together,

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and they have a conference.

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You know, but it's not like they have a club

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where they all hang out,

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because there's so many different types of broadcasters.

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There's broadcasters for profit broadcasters for non-profit.

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There's Christian broadcasters,

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there's music broadcasters,

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there's talk broadcasters.

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You know,

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the only thing they have in common,

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which is why they can actually call themselves

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some form of a community,

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is that they all have to deal with

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restrictive distribution.

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We don't have that with podcasting.

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And podcasting can mean a million different things

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to a million different people.

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So what do you actually a community for?

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You know,

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what is there actually to talk about?

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Other than,

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hey man, I love your show.

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Listen to my show.

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Hey, you should subscribe to my show.

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Your show sucks, your show's great.

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You know,

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what's a show?

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How do I do?

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It's like, you know,

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it just doesn't make any sense

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to call it a community.

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By the way,

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communities in general,

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I am,

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I would call it more like clubs.

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I don't join clubs.

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I don't like clubs,

474
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,760
because usually,

475
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,760
you know, clubs are pretty much meant to be exclusive.

476
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,760
And even if they're completely open,

477
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,760
people come into the club and say something

478
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,760
and then it's like, well,

479
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,760
you don't talk that way here.

480
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,760
And so, you know,

481
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,760
immediately it's an exclusionary thing.

482
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,760
Samuel Johnson said in the 1700s,

483
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,760
there will always be a part

484
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,760
and always a very large part

485
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,760
of every community

486
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,760
that have no care about for themselves

487
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,760
and whose care for themselves

488
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,760
reaches little

489
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,760
and nothing,

490
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,760
if impatience of immediate pain

491
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,760
and eagerness for the nearest good.

492
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,760
And, and boy,

493
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,760
that really is true.

494
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,760
So anyway,

495
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,760
I knew this was going to blow up

496
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,760
and I didn't really follow

497
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,760
all the threads,

498
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,760
but from what I understand.

499
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,760
And he writes so much,

500
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,760
Dean Whitbread had a lot to do

501
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,760
with Neil and Jen just saying,

502
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,760
screw it.

503
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,760
We don't want to abuse anymore.

504
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,760
Just tired of it.

505
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,760
And,

506
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,760
so the reason why I called him a dick

507
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,760
and he still is a dick,

508
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,760
is he did something

509
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,760
that was really low-life move?

510
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,760
He posted,

511
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,760
I should probably look it up

512
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,760
so I don't miss quote him

513
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,760
because I'll be just as bad as he is.

514
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,760
I don't want to second watch it.

515
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,760
It was,

516
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,760
blogger.

517
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,760
Maybe there's blogger news.com.

518
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,760
Shit, I should have prepared this.

519
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,760
I'm sorry.

520
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,760
You know,

521
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,760
maybe I'll find you here.

522
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,760
You know,

523
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,760
which already kind of,

524
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,760
when you say,

525
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,760
when you post something on

526
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,760
blogger news,

527
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,760
crap,

528
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,760
I'm not finding it.

529
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,760
Let me see if I can,

530
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,760
oh,

531
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,760
Google,

532
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,760
help me out in my hour of need.

533
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,760
Blah,

534
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,760
okay,

535
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,760
here it is.

536
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,760
No, it's not blogger.

537
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,760
Shit.

538
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,760
Okay,

539
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,760
I can't find it.

540
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,760
I'll look for it.

541
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,760
Here's what he did.

542
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,760
Here's what I thought was low-life of him.

543
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,760
So he posted something

544
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,760
over at bloggernews.com,

545
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,760
whatever it is.

546
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,760
And the post said

547
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,760
that,

548
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,760
you know,

549
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,760
he had done some investigative work.

550
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,760
And it was very clear that pod show

551
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,760
its US operations were in trouble.

552
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,760
And a number of people jumped in

553
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,760
and said,

554
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,760
dude,

555
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,760
what are you talking about?

556
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,760
What are you base that on?

557
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,760
And he did the lowest low-life thing

558
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,760
that any so-called journalist can do.

559
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,760
He said,

560
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,760
oh, well,

561
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,760
you know,

562
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,760
first of all,

563
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,760
I have this first hand from people

564
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,760
who I'm not going to name.

565
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,760
Okay,

566
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,760
you don't have to name your sources.

567
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,760
He didn't actually,

568
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,760
wasn't actually able to say

569
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,760
what the problem was.

570
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,760
And then he said,

571
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,760
this is,

572
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,760
this really gets me.

573
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,760
If,

574
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,760
if none of its true,

575
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,760
why are you making such a big deal about it?

576
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,760
And that is exactly what gossip magazines do.

577
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,760
They'll say something,

578
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:02,760
which is completely untrue.

579
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,760
Regardless of whether it's true or not,

580
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,760
without any facts,

581
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,760
any backup,

582
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,760
any details.

583
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,760
And then when called upon it,

584
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,760
they'll say,

585
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,760
oh, excuse me,

586
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,760
you know,

587
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,760
if, if not of its true,

588
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,760
what are you making such a big deal about it?

589
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,760
Or as Dean would say,

590
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,760
what,

591
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,760
what,

592
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,760
what do you give a jot?

593
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,760
And when you do that,

594
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,760
you're deck.

595
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,760
It's plain and simple.

596
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,760
And that's all I had to say about it,

597
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:30,760
really.

598
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,760
All right,

599
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,760
one more song before I get out of here.

600
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,760
Again,

601
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,760
from the pod save music network,

602
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,760
high on the pod played this week,

603
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,760
Al Stravinsky's one Christmas

604
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,760
on your daily source code.

605
00:38:43,750 --> 00:42:32,760
[ Music ]

606
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,760
So be on hair creatures on earth

607
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:53,760
I'm just coming to you

608
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:59,120
the blogger news network, and so we post about the Rick Haster form to close in the

609
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:04,560
15th of December. And here it is. Dixon, that would be Neil Dixon, cited reasons of having

610
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,880
insufficient time available to manage the forum. However, reports that all is not well in the

611
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:14,640
U.S. companies' operation continue to emerge. No link to any reports. With several notable

612
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,600
podcasts, there's having made an early exit. That's all presumptuous. Questions being raised

613
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:25,120
about expenditure rationale, questions where, show me a link, and low levels of revenue

614
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,640
share amongst pod show signies, a categorically not true if you look at the comments in the post.

615
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,640
Dixon has previously denied that pod show have put him under pressure to bring Brick Caster

616
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:39,520
into the expanding podcast empire. So you can kind of feel the crap that's in here. And then he

617
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:46,000
immediately hijacks the news to promote a new UK community podcast form called the National

618
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,240
Grid set up by the UK podcast association, which as far as I can tell is a bunch of lawyers who

619
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:55,680
want to pontificate about the world intellectual property organization. And some stupid rule they

620
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:04,560
thought that might actually happen. So that's just, that's not reporting. There's no, there's nothing

621
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,040
there. So it gets called on at several times in the comments. And here's what really may be

622
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:18,560
column a dick. No, but he has been falsely accusing anyone he writes. However, it is clear to see

623
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:25,040
that the UK community has effectively now been split along factional lines, which is drama queen.

624
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,120
It's quite reasonable to draw conclusions from the current situation. So this is what he's doing

625
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:36,320
is drawing conclusions and admitting it. This blog allows comments. Such comments are the tried and

626
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,720
tested way of challenging a blog post, veracity. And people are sitting there saying, hey, I'm

627
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:45,440
making money. I'm doing good. I don't know about any problems. So here comes. Why did the defense

628
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,720
extend into the mainly non-pod show new forum? Why the flames? If I am so far from the truth,

629
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:55,440
why the enormous fuss? So you know what? Fuck it. I'm upgrading this guy from dickhead to

630
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:01,440
ass hat. Okay. And it has nothing. Absolutely nothing to do with whether we work with him or not,

631
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,880
whether we work with John Clease or not. I mean, there's been so many conversations we had with

632
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,280
people. The stuff that didn't work out in the UK and the US. And there's no big deal. I don't talk

633
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,080
about it. I'll talk about one now just to give you an example. For those living in the UK,

634
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,960
there's a morning DJ called Bam Bam, who was on Virgin Radio. And he was fired,

635
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:26,320
a husband fired several times. He was fired before we actually started ramping up with B.T.

636
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,080
Pot show. He was fired from Virgin. And like, wow, this is perfect. We should see if we can get this

637
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:38,000
guy to do a show. And he was working on his own podcast, which was yet to pay for it. And so,

638
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:44,480
you know, we had several rounds of conversations with him and his partner slash agent manager.

639
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:51,040
And you know, it looked like it might be something. And then when it came down to compensation,

640
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,440
he was clearly looking for something that we were not willing to provide. He was looking for

641
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,360
I mean, we were offering a nice amount of money for him to come on board. But he wanted like a million

642
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,480
pounds a year, which is I'm sorry. You just not going to get that. I hope you enjoyed the coffee.

643
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,280
I guess it's about all you'll get from Pod Show. And that was okay, you know, and so I never

644
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:17,920
made any big fuss about him. And we parted our ways. And unfortunate. But, you know, no reason to

645
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:24,000
air out any laundry about that. And end of story. So it says nothing to do with that. This has to do

646
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:31,280
with a guy pretending to report on a story while he's hijacking a so-called community to come

647
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:37,440
over to his place. And not backing any of his claims up. And I'm quite frankly, I'm disappointed.

648
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,840
I'm disappointed with the with everyone who's participating in these forms. But, you know,

649
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:47,200
there's a club here. And the club is called the UK podcast. There's association. And they don't

650
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,160
like me. They pretend or they're civil about it. But when you really read into the boards and

651
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:57,360
you see what people are writing. Oh, man. So you guys should get over it. Really, really should.

652
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,040
Everyone's welcome to hang out. Have some fun. Do your own thing. Do whatever.

653
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,440
Just don't talk bullshit without being able to back it up. That's all I ask. What are we

654
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,800
adding? Now, 46 minutes. Damn it. I got to clean up the house. I got to go through the

655
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,560
checklist before Patricia comes home. I'll talk to y'all tomorrow. Adam at podshow.com daily source

656
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:31,280
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