1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Hey, Kathy, what you doing? 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Oh, I was just getting the bedtime stories. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 My kids love intro ready for daily source code 541. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Fulger's coffee. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Wait a minute. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Did you just say Fulger's coffee? 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Yep, what abouts in sale? 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Things have changed again. 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 And now, every time you burp, it's Fulger's. 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Really? 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,000 So it's not like... 12 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Splendor? 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Nope. 14 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,000 It's not Fulger's coffee? 15 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Yep. 16 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,000 All right. 17 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Fulger's? 18 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Very good, Pearl. 19 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Now it's time to introduce the show. 20 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Daily source code 541. 21 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,000 With 15 bags of Splendor stuck in our pants. 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Sugar! 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,000 And 15 bags of toilet paper hanging from our cracks. 24 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,000 We don't need no sticking sugar! 25 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 I'd like to think I'm right. 26 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 For the future. 27 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,000 I'll be honest if she is so serious. 28 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 I need somebody else. 29 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,000 I'll just anybody else. 30 00:01:08,000 --> 00:03:08,000 [ Music ] 31 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Won't you please help me if you can, I'm feeling down. 32 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,000 What's this? 33 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Am I out of my mind? 34 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Am I crazy? 35 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Have I finally flipped my lid? 36 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Have I smoked one split too many? 37 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Oh my goodness. 38 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Do I want to go to jail? 39 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,000 No, my friends. 40 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,000 You just heard the future of the legacy of Steve Jobs. 41 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Yep. 42 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 What happened yesterday was monumental. 43 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 And I want to talk to you about it. 44 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,000 And I'm not worried at all about playing the Beatles. 45 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,000 One of the most protected copyrighted artists of all time. 46 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 I would have to say, most well-managed. 47 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Most one of the most profitable catalogs. 48 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Because things are going to change very rapidly. 49 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:02,000 I've probably seen online in the headline and newspapers all across the globe today. 50 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,000 An essay that Steve Jobs wrote called Thoughts on Music. 51 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,000 And it really focuses in hones in on the use of digital rights management. 52 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 And he makes an argument. 53 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:19,000 And quite a compelling case that selling music without digital rights management. 54 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,000 In other words, restrictions, which means, well, to cut through to it. 55 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Eventually, everything would be on MP3. 56 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 And you could copy to any device and you could share it around with friends. 57 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 You could do whatever you'd want with it. 58 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:37,000 But it will actually sell more music than the current state of the union, if you will. 59 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Excuse me. 60 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Fulger's Coffee. 61 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,000 And it's only part of the story. 62 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,000 And this is a very carefully orchestrated strategy that Steve Jobs has been working on for, 63 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 I believe, quite some time. 64 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:58,000 We came more or less apparent to me a few weeks ago at the Apple keynote at Mac world, 65 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:04,000 where Steve Jobs slipped in a couple of Beatles tracks during his infamous keynote. 66 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Not only did he do that, but he announced that Apple computer wouldn't be known as Apple Inc. 67 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 And lo and behold. 68 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,000 And of course, I don't know the details if it's a true acquisition or exactly what the deal is. 69 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,000 But believe me, Steve Jobs is an excellent businessman. 70 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:28,000 And the deal that he did with Apple Records is completely to the benefit of everybody, including Apple. 71 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 And of course, indirectly Steve Jobs. 72 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:36,000 And let me see if I can explain this to you because I see this strategy unfolding clearly before our very eyes. 73 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 So Steve Jobs knows what the real money is in music. 74 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 It's in the publishing. 75 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 It's in licensing. 76 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:49,000 And he knows because he's been on the payment end of this by paying for Beatles cataloged to use in Apple commercial. 77 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,000 I think maybe he used a revolution that may have been a couple others. 78 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 It probably were. 79 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,000 So he knows what kind of money that's, what kind of money that can mean. 80 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:05,000 At the same time, he also knows that the money that he makes on sales through the iTunes music stores, 81 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 pretty much negligible. 82 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Of course, 2 billion of anything is a lot of money or it's a lot of anything. 83 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:18,000 But it's really just to spit in the bucket if you compare it to Apple's core business and where they're headed. 84 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Let me see if I can get this all down for you. 85 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:28,000 So what he's pleading for and in this memo and of course, there's a link to it. 86 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:34,000 If you haven't read it already, there's a link to it from the show notes on today's podcast daily source code.com. 87 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 You'll see that he's making very, 88 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:47,000 a major plea to the other major record labels or to the major record labels to sell DRM free because he's making a comparison. 89 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 You really got to read the words carefully. 90 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,000 He's making a comparison between CDs and the iPod. 91 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:59,000 And certainly with the way pricing is working and more is law and all that stuff. 92 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,000 The iPod without a doubt is the CD of the future. 93 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,000 People are always going to pay for packaging. 94 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 And we know that there are more honest people than there are dishonest people. 95 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:17,000 We've proven that with podcasting artists who are member of the pod safe music network have contributed their music free. 96 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,000 And clear, of course, it could be by definition. 97 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 It's being downloaded by podcasters. 98 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:28,000 They're using it in their show, which creates another copy, which of course, if you really wanted to, you could go and rip it off. 99 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000 People aren't doing that. 100 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:38,000 And because it's very simple to go and buy a track through the pod safe music network or garage band or CD baby or iTunes music store anywhere, 101 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 because that process has become very simple. 102 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 People are doing it because they, you know, they'll buy a CD from CD baby. 103 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Why do they want the packaging? 104 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,000 How successful do you think that you too iPod was? 105 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,000 I have a feeling it was extremely successful. 106 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:01,000 And so of course, of course, Steve Jobs knows that the way to go is to package the content. 107 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:08,000 In this case, the, I would presume the entire Beatles catalog to package that into special iPods. 108 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Perhaps even preloaded on on max that you buy in the store. 109 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:20,000 I believe that in the future, you may even have an iPod for your Beatles music and iPod for your commute and iPod for your podcasts, 110 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,000 maybe nice. 111 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 I think that's very possible. 112 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 And they'll be completely interchangeable. 113 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 What's the difference? 114 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,000 You're just picking up a piece of plastic. 115 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 You know, a little piece of plastic. 116 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 You slip it in. 117 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 You stick, you're jam the buds in your ears and you're off. 118 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 And you've got whatever you want. 119 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 You can easily carry a couple of these things with you. 120 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,000 And they'll become just like CDs. 121 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,000 And that's that packaging is what Jobs knows so much about. 122 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,000 He knows exactly how to sell to the, to the, to the customer to his customer. 123 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 So the way, I think this is the next step for him. 124 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,000 And if you do the math, I think it really works out. 125 00:08:53,000 --> 00:09:04,000 I believe that now that Steve Jobs has, in effect, become a record company and owns, at least owns the rights to do something with the Beatles catalog. 126 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 He will put that out free and clear of DRM. 127 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,000 It'll be his choice. 128 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:16,000 And I'm sure he's, he's talked it over with the, with the Apple, formerly former Apple records people. 129 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,000 It'll be free and clear. It'll be packaged in max. It'll be packaged in iPods. 130 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 And that's where the money's coming from. 131 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 And it's going to be huge much more. 132 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,000 What, what do you hear the Beatles on the radio anymore? 133 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Where do you hear it? 134 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 You don't, except on Beatles specific stations. 135 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:39,000 I've paid for this for these tracks 10 times in my life on all kinds of different collectors, CDs, vinyl, all the packaging. 136 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 It's all about the packaging. 137 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000 And you know what, of course, I'll buy a Beatles iPod. Are you kidding me? 138 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,000 But by doing this, and this is where I think he sees the light, his, his legacy. 139 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,000 By being the first big quote label to step forward. 140 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 And to say, you know what, here it is. This is how it's done. 141 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Watch the money come on in suckas. 142 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000 He's going to break it wide open. 143 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,000 And you'll see every single record company selling through multiple channels. 144 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 It'll play on any device. You'll be able to do anything you want with it. 145 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Because the real true money when you have a hit record, a hit song, 146 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,000 is in the licensing. It's in the publishing and to get it to people. 147 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,000 They'll gladly pay extra money if you put it into the right packaging. 148 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,000 And that is why I'm not worried about playing the Beatles on this podcast. 149 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Well, that, and of course, the fact that it was such a crappy video version. 150 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 I stole off of my space. 151 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,000 But I don't think anyone would ever want to go and rip that one out. 152 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 But this is going to be a very exciting year. 153 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,000 I'm, I'm convinced of it. 154 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,000 And just listen to this. 155 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Here's some of the reasoning that I love. 156 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Today's most popular iPod holds 1,000 songs and research tells us that the average iPod is nearly full. 157 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Listen to how he's talking about the iPod. 158 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,000 You know, this is like, it's like me who with Jaguars and you know, the ash trace full up, 159 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 time to buy a new one. 160 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,000 The iPod's full up, time to buy a new one. 161 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 I don't want to take tracks off. 162 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,000 I don't want to have to manage that. 163 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Look, it costs me 40 bucks to buy the Beatles in the iPod. 164 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Maybe it's 60. 165 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Maybe it's 100. 166 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Who cares? 167 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:14,000 And you'll buy, you know, the next yell and bands will be releasing their albums on special iPod. 168 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,000 This is, it is so clear that this is where it's going. 169 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:24,000 And there are lessons and not just lessons, but there's also a place in here for podcasting. 170 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 So, what can I do? 171 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Let's have some fun with this. 172 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Oh, yeah. 173 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,000 I don't, this is Gabe real one of your listeners in Dublin, Ireland. 174 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Now, I was reading the news recently. 175 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:41,000 That the UK charts for the top singles have been revamped. 176 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:48,000 So, now that any downloaded track, as long as it's registered with the system, is in the 177 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 running to be in the chart. 178 00:11:51,000 --> 00:12:00,000 And I was, as you might have heard, this is caused a bit of, you know, dramatic or people, 179 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:08,000 you know, old TV teams going into the charts and Chris Moiles ran a little campaign to get 180 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,000 someone back into the charts and he succeeded getting into number 17. 181 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:19,000 All I was thinking is, is there any plans for podshow music network? 182 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:31,000 To register with the system so that podsafe artists could potentially get some recognition on 183 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,000 the charts. 184 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 You know, this is a very good question. 185 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,000 I'm glad you bring it up in the context of, in the context of what we're talking about in 186 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Holland. 187 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Sorry. 188 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 I turned something up a little too far. 189 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Okay. 190 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,000 It's better. 191 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,000 I don't want to blow your ear drums out. 192 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Yeah. 193 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Okay. 194 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:54,000 So, it's not going to matter because the only chart that is going to matter is going 195 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,000 to be the iTunes chart. 196 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:01,000 iTunes will become the largest record company in the world. 197 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 It's all there. 198 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 They've got the marketing. 199 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000 They've got the distribution. 200 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 They've got the customer base. 201 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 What else do record companies do? 202 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000 You know, nothing. 203 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:16,000 So, of course, you know, the hope is is that there will be enough exposure for indie artists. 204 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:23,000 But once this starts to build out and once DRM is removed and everyone's comfortable with 205 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,000 this equation, you're going to see all kinds of players and stores and wonderful ways to package 206 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 and distribute music. 207 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 And it will no longer be on this track. 208 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Of course, people will buy in a track by track basis, but there's so much. 209 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,000 But people love music. 210 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 There's so much money. 211 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 And finally, this shit is being broken. 212 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:44,000 So, for us, what's important because this is where podcasting does play a very big role. 213 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:49,000 What's important for us is the pod play chart. 214 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:55,000 If you go to podshow.com slash music, any genre you click on, you'll see a chart of the 215 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:01,000 top songs in that genre as determined by pod play from podcasters who are member of the 216 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,000 pod safe music network, that's going to be a very important number because they're still 217 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:13,000 nothing more powerful than hearing your song on podcasts all over the world. 218 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:20,000 There is no more powerful marketing message when your friend, even if you're a group of 219 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:25,000 a thousand or a hundred or ten thousand or five hundred thousand, if someone says, hey, I like 220 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,000 this song. 221 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Check it out. 222 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,000 That's the type of endorsement that radio it gives in mainstream media today. 223 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 And it's the type of endorsement of the future. 224 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Or the qualities there. 225 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:42,000 And I'm quite sure that, you know, if you had the distribution now because there are two. 226 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 And you have all these people playing these songs. 227 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:50,000 It would be nice to get these artists directly nice on a wider level. 228 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 You know, outside the podcasting world. 229 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 I thought that might one way or two. 230 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Alright, now I appreciate it. 231 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,000 So there you go. 232 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 It's all going to change. 233 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 God, I'm so excited about this. 234 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Okay, let's see. 235 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Where are we at right now? 236 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Hi, Adam. 237 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,000 It's Eric Bergen. 238 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,000 You might remember my name. 239 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,000 I'm the host of Green Room Radio in Arts and Entertainment podcast. 240 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:17,000 And in fact, we were one of the first podcasts to feature a theme song by Jeff Smith. 241 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Anyway, here's why I'm sending in this audio comment. 242 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,000 I was very involved in the podcasting world almost since the beginning. 243 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,000 In fact, that was one of your first listeners. 244 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:33,000 And I was a dedicated listener. I listened every single day. 245 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,000 In August, I made the decision to stop listening. 246 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 This was in about early to mid August. 247 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,000 And the decision came out of the fact that my other life, which was that of an actor, 248 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,000 actually started picking up steam and I started getting work. 249 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,000 And I was in rehearsals all day and doing shows at night. 250 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 And I just didn't have time for podcasting anymore. 251 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,000 I haven't done an episode of my own podcast since May. 252 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Don't worry. We're coming back next week. 253 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,000 But I just, I just need to know. 254 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,000 I need a little update because I want to rejoin the daily source code listening experience. 255 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 But I need to know what's going on. 256 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 I can't just join the show and not know what's going on. 257 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Did you move? It sounded like you moved houses? 258 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 What's this free Trinity thing? 259 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,000 I need if you could just give me or maybe one of your listeners could give me just a three minute update 260 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:27,000 of everything I need to know that's been happening in the daily source code world since I guess mid August. 261 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:33,000 The last time I checked in in August, the pod show website had just gone public. 262 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,000 But I think that was really the biggest thing that was going on then. 263 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,000 So if you could just, just let me know, just catch me up on everything. 264 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,000 I'm sorry to ask you. 265 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,000 I just, I want to rejoin, but I can't just rejoin and not know what's going on. 266 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,000 It's like trying to join 24 in the middle of the season. 267 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 You don't know what the hell's going on. 268 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Also, next time you're in San Francisco, 269 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,000 I'm here for a while doing a little show called Jersey Boys playing at the current theater. 270 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,000 And I know Adam that you sort of are a Jersey boy because you lived there. 271 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Now, the show isn't about you. 272 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 The show is actually about Frankie Valley and the four seasons. 273 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,000 But I'd love for you to come. 274 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 We're playing at the current theater right on Gary Street. 275 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 It's right near Pod Show HQ. 276 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,000 So why don't you come on down. 277 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,000 I'll pay for your ticket. 278 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,000 I promise. 279 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Okay, that's all. 280 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Just someone give me an update. 281 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Please. 282 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Dude, you got to stick with it. 283 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Although I really do appreciate the comparison with 24. 284 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Oh, that's nice. 285 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,000 Well, there's a challenge. 286 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Anyone want to put that together? 287 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,000 It might be necessary. 288 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,000 That is a good point. 289 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 And I really appreciate the invite. 290 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Yes, of course. 291 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,000 I'll take you up on it. 292 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 I think I'm in San Francisco the week of the 19th. 293 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,000 So let's say if we can hook it up, I would love to come to see that. 294 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:50,000 It's, you know, I've had my eye on that production for a while. 295 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:55,000 And I didn't know that, you know, there really is kind of a theater district in San Francisco. 296 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Is there any good? 297 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Is it, are they, you know, what are the things that we're going to find out, I guess, aren't we? 298 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Planting a Jamaican get away? 299 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Fly stone. 300 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Our stone attendance will see that you arrive with a load. 301 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,000 Stone Airlines to Jamaica. 302 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Fly above the clouds and arrive with a head full of steam when you get there. 303 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,000 And save money with our specially economy flights, only 29.95. 304 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Jump once you to fly. 305 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Hey, Adam. 306 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,000 It's Seth Harwood, longtime DSC listener. 307 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,000 After hearing the first few chapters of Mark Yoshimoto Nemcoff's kick-ass pod novel, 308 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Number one with a bullet. 309 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 And Scott Sigler's awesome, the rookie. 310 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:42,000 I thought it was time for me to bring my podcast novel, Jack wakes up over to pod show. 311 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Jack wakes up is about what happens when Jack palms. 312 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:51,000 A one hit wonder, X action movie actor hits the streets of San Francisco 313 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 to help a group of check drug buyers make one big score. 314 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,000 A drug deal that he hopes will set him up for life. 315 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:05,000 But when things turn difficult, he has to decide what side of acting and action he's on. 316 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Thanks, Adam, for all the great pod show podcasts. 317 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,000 And I'm looking forward to getting to know more people in the pod show community. 318 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:17,000 When you get a chance, go check out Jack wakes up at Jack wakes up. podshow.com. 319 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,000 I shall do exactly that. 320 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Thank you very much and welcome to the show. 321 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Absolutely. 322 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 This is a format that we haven't even talked about. 323 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,000 The stuff, Mark Yoshimoto Nemcoff's doing, Scott Sigler. 324 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000 There's a podiobooks.com. 325 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,000 This is really an interesting audio format. 326 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,000 And we're seeing people create books in an audience online 327 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,000 and then selling the physical hard copy again. 328 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:49,000 We're back to my favorite word of the week, packaging. 329 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,000 In our continuing quest to find out if posh people are potty pigs, 330 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 we find out some more interesting tidbits today. 331 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,000 By the way, I'm in my training period now. 332 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,000 I am now officially a folder and a sitter. 333 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 I got some interesting software the other day. 334 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:18,000 I'm going to try out its SMS software so we can do voting here on the chat chat. 335 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000 So you can just SMS, it would be folder or scruncher, 336 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,000 sitter or standard. 337 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Actually, let me just, well, I'll mess with you right in a second. 338 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Hold on, let's see. 339 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Our first posh poddy comments. 340 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Hi, Adam. 341 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,000 I'm Darren from Beautiful Melvin and Australia here. 342 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Just thought I'd like to chime in on the posh poddy habits. 343 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Three. 344 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,000 I work for three years at one of Australia's most prestigious financial institutions. 345 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,000 There's some very smart research monkeys, investment bankers and the like. 346 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Without doubt, it had the most disgusting tolls of any place that I'd previously worked. 347 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 We had a fandom sprayer as well. 348 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 It was not unusual to walk into the stall in the morning and find, 349 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,000 well, sheet in places I didn't think you can normally get it. 350 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 He obviously didn't have much of a fire in his diet. 351 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,000 He didn't hear for a while, then returned. 352 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Unfortunately, we were unable to track down the culprit. 353 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,000 On the Trinity project, let's get her around the world. 354 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Get her into a container and on a ship from the Mead to Perth Western Australian. 355 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,000 We'll pick her up and dry her across the Malibu plane to Sydney. 356 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000 That's the equivalent distance of about London to Moscow. 357 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,000 We can pop her back into a ship to New Zealand and get my other key. 358 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,000 We guys to cut a lap in New Zealand and then back on a ship to Auckland for Los Angeles. 359 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Us can play in a second navigation. 360 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000 There is a challenge. 361 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Thanks for the show. 362 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 I've been listening since about the first six months of the day. 363 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,000 I still look forward to my daily day of sea fix. 364 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Cheers, Mike. 365 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Alright. 366 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000 I miss Australia. 367 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000 I really want to go there again. 368 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Of course, of course you'll make it to Australia. 369 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 She's not going to stop. She's going to keep going around the world. 370 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,000 I know it because there's enough people who are going to fix her up and keep her running. 371 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000 I can't wait to get there on the road and get this project started. 372 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:03,000 It's going to take a couple more weeks, but it will happen and we're going to get her rolling. 373 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,000 We're good for bad. 374 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Trinity update coming in just a couple seconds. 375 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000 I am. 376 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 It's Melvin from Seoul again. 377 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000 You asked for more toilet towels in the Orient. 378 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,000 You might think that South Korea's economic success has been built on manufacturing 379 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,000 motor cars, ships, electronics, or even knockoffs. 380 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,000 But no. 381 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Don't actually build on oral healthcare. 382 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Trinity hours of 12 to 2 each day. 383 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:34,000 About 20 million Koreans in factories and offices in construction sites will brush their teeth. 384 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,000 In my office you have to force your way past the 3D cure at the sinks. 385 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 So I think that's 4 sets isn't that much. 386 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 To get anywhere near the men's room. 387 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Then you arrive at the store. 388 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Here you get the usual smells and noises. 389 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,000 The creep out from underneath the toilet door. 390 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Sometimes you get something a little bit extra. 391 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 You get the sound of brushing teeth. 392 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 It's really quite weird. 393 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Cheers. 394 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Wow. 395 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000 You sounded like a Brit. 396 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Yeah. 397 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 Just to be stereotypical. 398 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,000 For Brits, it may be weird to brush your teeth after lunch. 399 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 But it's a pretty good habit actually to have. 400 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000 I want to add there. 401 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Okay. 402 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000 We learned a little bit. 403 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Not an entire amount about. 404 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000 About the problem at hand. 405 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000 But it does seem that worldwide. 406 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000 People have the strangest bathroom habits when they're in public. 407 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 While their bathrooms at home could be impeccably clean. 408 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000 The quest continues. 409 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Defined out. 410 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Are Posh. 411 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000 People. 412 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Poti. 413 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Pigs. 414 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000 Pigs. 415 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Bik. 416 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,000 Gosset is a fine. 417 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Question. 418 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Yes. 419 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,000 It is. 420 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Are Posh. 421 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Pigs. 422 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000 C'mon strip. 423 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,000 C'mon strip. 424 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,000 C'mon strip. 425 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,000 C'mon strip. 426 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,000 C'mon strip. 427 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,000 C'mon strip. 428 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,000 C'mon strip. 429 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,000 C'mon strip. 430 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,000 C'mon strip. 431 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000 C'mon strip. 432 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000 I beat you. 433 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Hello. 434 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Cary Adam. 435 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,000 And the same to your charming madam. 436 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 It is me. 437 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,000 The C S B. 438 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:07,000 as B and tomorrow in London I will be. 439 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Please be nice and don't be late so that I won't have to wait. 440 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Fortunately, World War II is over. 441 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,000 So my German airplane will not be shot above tover. 442 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:29,000 This interview will be only about mobile phones 443 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,000 and I bring two stereo superb microphones. 444 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000 See you tomorrow in the meeting. 445 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Please remember this reminder greeting. 446 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Oh. 447 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Yeah. 448 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,000 Did you hear that? 449 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:50,000 The satellite window closed right in the middle of CSB. 450 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Yep, tomorrow. 451 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Oh, it's all this excitement that's going on. 452 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,000 And by the way, today we're picking a Patricia Smart Roadster. 453 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Yeah, she's so excited. 454 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000 She's like a little girl. 455 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 She has a whole day planned for tomorrow. 456 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 She wants to... 457 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 She has like a Barbie card. 458 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 It's perfect. 459 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000 That's what all girly girls want. 460 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000 She's got a day of driving. 461 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 She's going to the nail salon. 462 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000 She's going to drive and see how much shopping she can get in. 463 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000 You know, grocery shopping. 464 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,000 That's very cool. 465 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,000 So mixed all of that tomorrow in London. 466 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:33,000 To PM, I'm meeting with online superhero of the interesting comic strip blogger. 467 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000 And we're going to shoot it. 468 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 We're going to do some video. 469 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Because I think a lot of people are very curious to see what he looks like and to hear him talk. 470 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Is this real voice? 471 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Is it a real guy? 472 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,000 And I am myself quite excited about it because how long have we been communicating 473 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000 with each other. 474 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:57,000 And even though sometimes he goes off the rails for, you know, for the rest of the audience, 475 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000 he's, I think he's a reasonable guy. 476 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000 So, you know, yes, he's interviewing me. 477 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,000 You know, I'll be able to slip some questions in and we'll learn lots of stuff. 478 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000 You know, that's going to happen. 479 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Beautiful day to day again. 480 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 I hope it's going to be the same on Friday. 481 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000 Blue skies. 482 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Very, very cold in the UK. 483 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,000 Minus six degrees Celsius this morning when Christina and I got into the car. 484 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000 And the predicting snow for tomorrow, which, of course, could, 485 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,000 could kind of ruin Patricia's day of barbie car driving. 486 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Hi Adam, it's Eric. 487 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 West with the beach happens to go. 488 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000 I just wanted to make a couple of comments. 489 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:39,000 You had the best song ever that I've heard on your show with Beat Hopkins a yesterday 490 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 on the DSC. 491 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,000 I think it was by 40 actually. 492 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Congratulations on over 500. 493 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000 I don't know if I'm going to take this further down there a month. 494 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 And I'm starting up my podcast again. 495 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,000 But the other thing I wanted to comment on was on, I believe, 496 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,000 in the spot 39 where you stated, you leave your machine's arm. 497 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:04,000 It is actually a noted fact that most systems are made for continuous run. 498 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,000 That includes elevators, computers, just rides. 499 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,000 So, leaving them on actually last longer than turning them on and off. 500 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000 But the actual turning them on and off, that actually, 501 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000 short and very light. 502 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Anyway, just by giving you a comment and thanks for the DSC. 503 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,000 I listen every day. 504 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 You're first thing in the morning. 505 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 And when you're the only chef in Cisco, 506 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000 please keep doing this show at 11 o'clock at night. 507 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Because that way I have it first thing in the morning 508 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,000 when I'm on my way to work. 509 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,000 Talk to you later. 510 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Bye. 511 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,000 The eye man, you got it. 512 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Thanks for calling in. 513 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,000 And of course, you've opened up the geek box of Pandora with this comment. 514 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Because I think there are equal opinions on either side of the 515 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,000 leave him on or switch him off debate as it pertains to computers, 516 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,000 to tubes, to light bulbs, to just about anything I think. 517 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,000 But I have to say my personal experience. 518 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,000 And that's just because I'm old enough to seeing crap die along the way. 519 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Is leave him on. 520 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000 For those of you not familiar with Raymond, Raymond Port. 521 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 He's a good friend of the Charlie. 522 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,000 And he was the guy that while I was recording a daily source code 523 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,000 on a commute from Amsterdam to the Curry Castle in Belgium. 524 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000 That all of a sudden he pulled up alongside me. 525 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,000 He was honking his horn. 526 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,000 We were in kind of heavy traffic. 527 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000 And he says, dude, I'm listening to you right now. 528 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,000 And listen to daily source code. 529 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 And I was like, dude, I'm recording one. 530 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,000 And it was like a loop. 531 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000 It was a connection. 532 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,000 It was a really interesting moment in the history of this show. 533 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000 Certainly, maybe a podcasting in general. 534 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,000 And Raymond's made some pretty big decisions in this life recently. 535 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000 I think he's leaving his current job. 536 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 And he's trying to find out where he wants to go and what he wants to do. 537 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000 And he was in traffic recently. 538 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000 And what else you're going to do when your name's ready? 539 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,000 Hey, Adam. 540 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000 It's Raymond from the Netherlands. 541 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000 I'm on a road trip today. 542 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,000 That can post Germany. 543 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Most time in the car. 544 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 And the traffic jam is all over. 545 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 Since it's starting snowing here. 546 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Where are you? 547 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,000 I miss you on the lane. 548 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,000 Let me stuck in the same city traffic jam. 549 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,000 You're all the A-A, or the Shigwar V-A, or Smart Roadster. 550 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Or Trinity. 551 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000 I'll have some time on my hands. 552 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,000 I totally dig the free Trinity project from early March. 553 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 I'll have no, they jump. 554 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Why don't you go up and drive around for a day or so? 555 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Let me know what you think. 556 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000 And it might happen. 557 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Okay. 558 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Fine. 559 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000 Out. 560 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Holder. 561 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000 That's right, Ray. 562 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Actually, we're changing it now. 563 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,000 No longer are you a folder, but you're a folders. 564 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000 So next time you do your business, you'll think of my sponsors. 565 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,000 It works. 566 00:29:47,000 --> 00:30:02,000 You can't help but sing along. 567 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,000 The Trinity, Trinity, the quintessential luxury. 568 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Trinity, Trinity, Trinity's at the bio diesel set. 569 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000 You're free Trinity. 570 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000 That's right. 571 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:18,000 We're taking my baby poo colored Mercedes 300 turbo diesel. 572 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Station wagon from 1984 running on Veggie Oil. 573 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Better known as biodiesel across the USA and around the globe. 574 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000 We're signing up. 575 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000 We're getting the group together. 576 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,000 There's a link at the show notes daily source code.com. 577 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000 To the Google group, you want to join. 578 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,000 You want to let your presence be known. 579 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,000 We're collecting all your data. 580 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,000 We're going to be mapping out Trinity's root pretty soon. 581 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000 And of course, everyone gets your chance to drive. 582 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Everyone gets a chance to fill her up. 583 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,000 Everyone gets a chance to repair her along the way. 584 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,000 Trust me. 585 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000 I know cars. 586 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000 So that's the concept. 587 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:58,000 And of course, she'll be sending back GPS coordinates and video and photo at regular intervals. 588 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:09,000 And all we're looking for now really is to find someone who can build a strap on box that will perform these wonderful functions. 589 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000 I think we might have someone in the prolific programmer. 590 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,000 I've asked him to send me some links to some of the work he's done. 591 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:24,000 But anyone who calls himself the prolific programmer either is a damn good programmer. 592 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Or he's got elephant-sized balls. 593 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Of course, I wasn't completely correct about what I told you about him yesterday. 594 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,000 So he called in to correct me. 595 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,000 Hello. 596 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,000 I don't know who's coming here. 597 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000 I just wanted to tell you that. 598 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000 And email me at first. 599 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,000 We have that to you because that's relevant part. 600 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Um, I was immediately 540. 601 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000 I'm having a good new girlfriend. 602 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,000 You're glad to request me the prolific programmer involved for you. 603 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000 But through Trinity project, I would love to. 604 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:59,000 I did, however, I just bought sent to a friend to send a dinner and to a camera. 605 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000 Okay. 606 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000 I can't think that's the effort in any kind of the present. 607 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Then you mentioned that they were doing a machine level and I realized that's right. 608 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000 Colin. 609 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000 So I'm nice to join you on the other way. 610 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Um, I would also because you come to the area often enough and I'm usually in the area. 611 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000 I would love to be able to. 612 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,000 We should discuss the city by other projects over a day or some time. 613 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,000 Either let me know to the DSC or you can't. 614 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000 I mean, blog at post it for them. 615 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 And come such a little bit. 616 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Thank you. 617 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000 Awesome. 618 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000 I love you, man. 619 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000 I don't think anyone can understand what the fuck you're saying. 620 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 But I do love you. 621 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 I think you're a true character. 622 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,000 And okay. 623 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Here's the deal. 624 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000 I got no time to have dinner with anybody. 625 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,000 I'm sorry. 626 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,000 I just don't. 627 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000 You know, that's just not the way my life works. 628 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Certainly not when I'm San Francisco because, you know, 629 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:56,000 dinner is like something from the, from the takeaway or it's a frozen food dinner. 630 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,000 And then I do the show at night. 631 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Yeah, just don't have the time. 632 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,000 But I did talk to my friend over at Nokia. 633 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:08,000 And if I'm convinced and then I'll convince him that we have the right people who 634 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:15,000 actually want to build on this wonderful open and 800 Linux based platform. 635 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000 He does have some development machines available. 636 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000 So let's get the group together guys. 637 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000 Let's, let's, you know, communicate it all through the Google group. 638 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Again, you can find a link to that at dailysourcecode.com. 639 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,000 I don't. 640 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Thank you, Jeff Smith. 641 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,000 I love you, man. 642 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Okay. So as a part of the quest to get Trinity on the road. 643 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,000 We're in the midst of hiring and I'll just call it a producer. 644 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000 For a couple of things for the entire project. 645 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000 And then a whole bunch of shit that goes along with the project. 646 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000 And that is Barbara the Palo Alto podcaster. 647 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,000 Dear diary, you know that dreamy Adam Curry. 648 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000 I'm always telling you about. 649 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000 I think he's trying to kill me. 650 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000 We're Trinity and I think we should get our going. 651 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000 And a week or two when I get back to San Francisco. 652 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000 I think we're almost ready. 653 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000 It's ready. 654 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Hey Adam. 655 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000 It's Barbara and Palo Alto. 656 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000 Trinity's Galpel. 657 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,000 You know, the one who almost had a coronary when you said the road trip was close to starting? 658 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Well, we are making a lot of progress. 659 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000 And I love your enthusiasm for the project. 660 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,000 There are still a lot of pieces we have to put into place before Trinity can get rolling. 661 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,000 So please, let's wait until we have more than a handful of invitations. 662 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Before we start talking about a time frame. 663 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Okay? 664 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Oh, man. 665 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,000 How about helping me get my heart started again with a little music? 666 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,000 So I guess this means David came through for you, huh? 667 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,000 Well, now. 668 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Chocolate cake makes my poor stomach ache. 669 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,000 And listen. 670 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Next time you get a hold of some KW that send you off into fantasy land like that. 671 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Dude, you got a share. 672 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,000 The coffee and refill makes me feel alright. 673 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,000 First of all, method making you hide. 674 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,000 But I've never liked going five days without sniffing. 675 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000 As it makes you say stupid things like, 676 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000 I'm sorry. 677 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,000 The coffee and refill makes you feel alright. 678 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000 It's all that takes you high. 679 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000 It takes you low. 680 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 The beans are making fly. 681 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000 All the mud will make you slow. 682 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Shooting speed balls will make you sell your stereo. 683 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,000 But you never heard of going in hawk. 684 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000 For a cup of Joe. 685 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,000 You know the crank will end you right in the crank. 686 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Smoke that nasty crack yet you want to rob a bank. 687 00:35:53,000 --> 00:37:44,420 [ Music ] 688 00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:46,420 When you're smoking on a level 689 00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:50,420 The cop to channel, hey, how's everything you need? 690 00:37:50,420 --> 00:37:54,420 X to C, what calls a man to level off? 691 00:37:54,420 --> 00:37:58,420 Love you, who is give make you love a girl you never touch it on 692 00:37:58,420 --> 00:38:02,420 Nestling, what turned you into a little pinky racer 693 00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:06,420 Stock cappuccino, with a mellow gauge taste 694 00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:09,420 Oh, fang, fang, fang, fang 695 00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:11,420 One sunshine 696 00:38:11,420 --> 00:38:13,420 Ferguson 697 00:38:13,420 --> 00:38:15,420 Ferguson, Apollo 698 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:17,420 August, August, Barbara 699 00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:19,420 Sorry about the coronary, my dear 700 00:38:19,420 --> 00:38:23,420 Coffee and refer, love that song 701 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:25,420 Awesome 702 00:38:25,420 --> 00:38:27,420 All right, everybody, that's enough for today 703 00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:29,420 Perfect timing, under 40 minutes the way I like to have it 704 00:38:29,420 --> 00:38:31,420 I hope you have a fantastic day 705 00:38:31,420 --> 00:38:33,420 Know that this is the beginning 706 00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:35,420 Today marks the beginning of a new era for music 707 00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:37,420 The way we'll be able to 708 00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:39,420 Share it amongst ourselves 709 00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:41,420 What we'll be able to do with it 710 00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:43,420 Where we'll be able to put it 711 00:38:43,420 --> 00:38:45,420 And how we'll be able to contribute to it 712 00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:47,420 It's going to be awesome 713 00:38:47,420 --> 00:38:49,420 DailySourceco.com 714 00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:51,420 Adam at podshow.com 715 00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:53,420 If you want to send me something 716 00:38:53,420 --> 00:38:55,420 Hey, you know what? 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