1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 You're Adam, it's Tony, I'm Josie. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Hey, if you need a savant for loafing around, I'm your man. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,000 I can sit around the couch for two days straight and not lift the muscle. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 I can pee in a cup. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 I can watch TV for days on end. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,000 So if you need a savant for just loafing around, you can't get me to Tony, Josie. 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 I'm in the old neighborhood, look me up. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Enjoy the DSC, $5.93. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,000 You're... 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 $16 million worth of airplane strapped to my ass. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Then the next generation radio content in my ears. 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 I like to think I'm flying into the future. 13 00:00:48,750 --> 00:03:58,000 [ Music ] 14 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Yes. 15 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000 They know reason things are this way. 16 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 They always been in the instant of the state. 17 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 I can't explain why we live this way. 18 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:16,000 We do it every day. 19 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Brett Dennan. 20 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Ain't no reason kicking off the daily source code episode number five hundred and ninety three coming to you from the curry manner. 21 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 In the affluent suburb of Surrey known as Guilford now. 22 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 The reason I play that song, I'm quite proud of this. 23 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Of course, it's from the pot safe music network. 24 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Brett Dennan had his song Ain't no reason as the conclusion to the main first episode of house on Fox TV. 25 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 So that was last night. 26 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 John Glasscock, learning me to this. 27 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,000 And, of course, I know a D.I. Don't watch house on what it's about. 28 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,000 I can't get it here, but it's cool no matter what. 29 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 Hey, have a body. 30 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Let me tell you it's a another beautiful day. 31 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,000 I mean really, really stunning weather up there in the 20 degrees. 32 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,160 centigrade once again, the wind is kind of what it was yesterday, although not really 33 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:09,800 gusting to any high high degree. So about 15 knots, so 17, 18 miles per hour, give or take. 34 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,120 Why do I mention all this? Well, of course, because I did it again. I'm so proud of myself. 35 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,720 I went flying this morning. So drop Christina off and continue right on to to the airfield 36 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:26,680 ferrocs. And, uh, oh, man, it's, uh, I'm, I'm like, I'm, it's so, uh, invigorating. I'm completely 37 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,920 tripping because I've, yeah, of course, I've flown solo and it's no problem. And I know how to do it, 38 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,680 but still, now I'm really starting to feel comfortable. And this is after, I don't know, I have, 39 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:43,320 if I count it up on my hours. I'm sure I'm somewhere between 1500 and 2000 hours of, of 40 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,720 flying time total, but in all different countries and different airfields and different rules. And of 41 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:54,360 course, I started with helicopters. So fixed wing, much less experience, but, uh, yeah, it's, uh, 42 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,000 getting exciting. Of course, I came back after the flight only to find out that, uh, the pipe 43 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:08,280 is down. We've got no more pipe. I guess. I don't know, uh, it's, you know, I, I'm not using, uh, 44 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:14,280 BT internet, but of course, uh, I am using the, you know, you have to have the BT landline in order 45 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:21,080 to get DSL service. And, uh, it's pretty interesting because I actually got a message from BT when 46 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,480 trying to connect and it says that the master circuit to my ISP is down or something like that. 47 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,520 But it's still kind of cool that then the modem connects to something else and then gives you that message. 48 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:36,520 Oh, quite impressed with that. Um, but right now, on the, uh, on the vote of phone, uh, USB 49 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,800 dongle thingy, which still gives me about to, it gets up to close to two, uh, a megabit per second, 50 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,200 uh, every now and then. So it's, uh, doable. I was able to download songs from, uh, 51 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:50,920 pots of music now, working somehow, uh, able to upload this entire show. Of course, back to the 52 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,800 flying, uh, let me just tell you what I did. Um, instead of, you know, touching ghost flying around the 53 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:01,640 airport, I went down south. I went to midhurst past Goodwood, which is a famous chichister, uh, 54 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:07,160 Goodwood airfield. They have a horse racing there, as well as car racing and a, a wonderful airfield. 55 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:14,360 I didn't land. I passed by went out, uh, coasted out over the ocean, uh, essentially turned, uh, 56 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,000 well, turned right, but eastwards. And just followed the coast for a little bit, uh, went past 57 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,400 shore, um, and then, uh, turned around and flew back up about an hours worth of flying, and it was just 58 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:30,440 really, it was so wonderful. Uh, uh, you know, and you get up to like 4,000 feet and when air was nice 59 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:36,840 and calm and I'm just like, whooping, you know, like, whoa, man, yeah, I was flying. I don't know 60 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:42,520 how to, uh, when they're morning, it's huge and fair, it's not at fair to the moment. We'll see 61 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,720 yesterday, uh, saw the aircraft out and thought, well, my one of Adam's showing up or they're just 62 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:53,880 putting it out into the sun because it, uh, it's been indoors for so long. Uh, anyway, um, 63 00:07:53,880 --> 00:08:02,120 rub it in. Uh, what else are you gonna say? Uh, cover, okay, ceiling and visibility, okay, come on Adam, 64 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:09,080 you know, uh, ceiling and visibility, okay, otherwise in excess of, was it 10 kilometers horizontal 65 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:17,000 and no clouds? Um, yep. Sorry, I missed you. I'm usually there. So, um, drop by, have a coffee 66 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:22,840 and uh, see some of the, um, interesting toys I've got sometime. See you again sometime, bye. 67 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,600 You know, I don't usually go, uh, in on invitations from guys who want me to show you their, 68 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:34,840 me their interesting toys, Hugh. Uh, uh, I did have my holiday, I didn't see you anywhere. Yes, 69 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,960 they are today. I must say. And yes, thank you. Thank you. I know, I don't know what I was thinking. 70 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,440 Yes, today I talked about the weather report as they're reported for aviation and Kavoke as 71 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,400 it whenever you see Kavoke, that means we're going flying no matter what, uh, and yes, uh, 72 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:54,040 many people called in and, uh, and told me something of course I knew, but should have said 73 00:08:54,040 --> 00:09:01,080 correct with the first time. Hello, Adam. It's a mic turning here from Bristol and the UK also known 74 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:14,760 as a German, the so-to-in that other world. Um, Kavoke, C-A-V-O-K, feeling and visibility, okay, that's what it's 75 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,400 done for because you didn't know that, right? You didn't know that at all with tailwinds and the Delta 76 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:27,160 Sierra. Also, I hope to see you on the annual opening pod show Ireland on the Saturday afternoon there. 77 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,280 That's Adam Newman. You have gone office and they asked the wrong man. I think you're on 78 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,320 you're actually a man yourself. You know you've been seeing the place and you've even got your 79 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,840 right office there. Take care, and we'll hope to see you on Saturday on the pod bus here at home. 80 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,880 I've gone in. Cheers, man. Cheers. Yeah, I really should go check out my office and see if I have 81 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:53,000 a mayor's chain to wear a key to the city. Yeah, maybe I'll pop by Saturday. Sunday, I'm going to go 82 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,000 pick up an action. I'm going to go to the show in the Netherlands. I hope I can talk about this 83 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:02,840 pretty soon. I'll see you because there's some cool shit happening around it. Excuse me. You know what 84 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:09,160 that means? It means this program is brought to you by Tyler and all p.m. I still haven't tried it 85 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:15,640 out myself, but I'm informed from very reliable sources. It really does work and Angie B will tell you 86 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:21,000 more about it on her show on wine on wine.podshow.com, which of course is sponsored by Tyler and all 87 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,560 p.m. I watched the Liverpool Chelsea last night. I'm not a, you know, I'm not a big sports fan, 88 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,400 not a big football fan. But when it comes to something like the Champions League, when it comes 89 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:35,320 to Liverpool playing basically a home game and these guys at the fans are very, very famous. Liverpool 90 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:41,720 is such an incredibly strong team. And of course we have Chelsea, which is a, uh, a lot of people 91 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,280 don't like Chelsea because, you know, we've got a foreign owner and, you know, it's like, hey, 92 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,960 you know, we don't really need a culture in our club. We'll just, you know, pull together all kinds 93 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,080 of foreigners to, which everyone kind of does. But I don't know, it just has a very negative 94 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,800 connotation in many cases. Now, please Chelsea fans don't get all upset that I'm saying this. I'm 95 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:06,680 just, you know, observing kind of from the outside. And it was a good game. Liverpool won. It was 96 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:12,920 interesting because, uh, multiple Dutch guys had to shoot penalty kicks. And if you know anything 97 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,800 about football and this much, I do know the Dutch when it comes to to sudden death. Oh, that was 98 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,320 the studio door. Sorry about that. When it comes to sudden death and, um, and penalty kicks, 99 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:30,600 the Holland socks. And so first there was, uh, Zenden, uh, he actually, he scored and he had a great 100 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:36,360 match, uh, all round. But then for Chelsea, they had, uh, Aryan Robin, he had these guys choke. The Dutch 101 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:42,760 always choke. And he choked. And then, of course, the winning penalty kick was made by, um, 102 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:48,520 caught another fine Dutchman. I'm telling you, these Dutch guys, they're taking care of business 103 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,840 over here. Now, really sad news though this morning. And they were talking about it at the airfield, 104 00:11:53,960 --> 00:12:00,440 um, a businessman flying back from, uh, from the match, died when his helicopter crashed 10 miles 105 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:07,400 from his home. This is on an honorary vice president of Chelsea, Philip Carter himself and, uh, 106 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:14,680 two of his friends along with pilot Steven Holdich, um, perished. They're, uh, 10, a twin squirrel 107 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:19,960 helicopter. This is, I can't wait to find out what happened because this is very uncommon for a twin 108 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:25,000 engine helicopter to go down. Uh, and of course, the weather was fine, uh, last night as well. 109 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,600 Um, after the match, it should not have been a problem. Um, you see, where was it found? It was 110 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,000 found on its side virtually intact at Wandsford, near Peterborough. So they must have had a really 111 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:42,200 something weird must have gone down there. That's sad when that happens. So, uh, that was kind of the 112 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:49,880 bummer. Did read something on, uh, actually I saved this, um, from, uh, from Google reader. I think 113 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,200 I, where did I read this? Maybe, uh, maybe I read this, uh, while I was on vacation, but I went through 114 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,840 my start items, if you know how that works with all the Google products, it kind of works well. 115 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:05,800 No, this is from April 24th. Um, check this out. Cryptonite found in Serbian mine. 116 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,360 Min, when Minerologist Dr. Chris Stanley of London's Natural History Museum to 117 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,760 a web search on the chemical formula of a recently discovered unusual mineral he was shocked to find out 118 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,280 that the rock is Cryptonite. The mineral found in a Serbian mine by the company Rio Tinto consists of the 119 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,560 same count chemicals as fictional Cryptonite as described in the film Superman returns. 120 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,640 So, the BBC wrote about it. Uh, the new mineral does not contain fluorine, which it does in the 121 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:37,480 film, and is white rather than green, but in all other respects, the chemistry matches that rock 122 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:45,400 containing Cryptonite. I don't know what to think about this, but uh, if you're into geology, 123 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,320 if you know anything about minerals and stuff like that, and or if you're Superman, you know 124 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,120 about Cryptonite. I'd love to hear from you. The perfect Savand moment. We got another one for you today, 125 00:13:54,120 --> 00:14:00,120 as well, um, which I think will you will enjoy almost a second, and just kind of new 126 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:06,040 voice mail message. Let me see what it is. Hey, Dad, um, it's me. I'm standing outside of the Odean, 127 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,440 you know, cinema, and I thought you were taking me out of the oven. Um, you probably have 128 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,240 a lot of water or something, so I'm going back and you're done, okay? She knows me so well, 129 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:21,000 you're probably on the line with Ron. Other interesting things coming into the voice mail today? 130 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:27,080 Hi, my name is Nick Reynolds, I'm Tom and I contact Adam Curry. I'm putting together a session 131 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:32,840 for this year's radio festival, and I want to do some of the interesting and participating. 132 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:38,280 It's about the impact of Pock Pock's blogs and everything else on radio. 133 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Hmm. If he's interested, could he please give me a ring on this number? Oh, sir. 134 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,640 No, yeah, I won't give him the number. Well, I think that's uh, 135 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:52,040 man, man, man. Thank you. Good bye. I think that's the BBC. The impact of blogs, 136 00:14:52,040 --> 00:15:01,320 pods, and whatever on radio, hmmm. So many requests, so little things to do. Oh, man, 137 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,960 hold on a second. I can't believe I had something set up because it's been a while since 138 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:14,600 since I've heard from him hold on. Let me see, maybe if I'm lucky. Yeah, I think this will work. 139 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:22,760 Savorite with the nylon, spreading the news with the smile on where the roller rite. 140 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:29,080 Ringo polite. Let's listen, vote a while to the nylon. He's back, everybody, the nylon. 141 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Hey Adam, Mr. nylon, um, to new format, interesting. I think every 142 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:41,560 product needs to evolve, so I commend you for evolving. However, I'm concerned, I don't want you 143 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:48,280 to become the Larry King of the podcast world. Larry King, everybody. It's not like the little 144 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:53,400 edge ahead. I kind of like the fine cell nature of the old cool mat, which is your show is about 145 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:58,680 nothing and anything on any given day. So let's not sell the baby out with the bath water. 146 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,560 This will example. Yeah, you haven't said, um, talk to you to a guest and probably about a month. 147 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:09,640 Oh, oh, allow me. Fuck you. By the way, nylon, please. I want to talk to you. I have 148 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,600 questions about the world bank. You are a true savant. You must give me a number to call. 149 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:21,160 It would be great if we could do that tonight. Please, you're perfect. You hate me and you and you 150 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:28,120 have knowledge. So let's get on with it. What's happening here? Kind of gentler side of you. So yeah, 151 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,520 I love that. That's the story of the savant thing every now and then, you know, the Larry King thing. 152 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,800 But, you know, keep the fine-filled and you know, lose your temper a bit. A little bit too 153 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,960 mellow for me. I think you're such a little peaman. You're taking it. 154 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:48,760 That's it. I'm not alone. No, no, I love you, man. Yeah, it's a Tylenol PM I'm taking. It keeps 155 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,400 me nice and mellow. Nice to see, though, that a lot of UK folks call it in. So we 156 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,000 mind as well. Make sure the US people know there's a phone number for you to call as well. 157 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,720 Where are you? I called you 20 minutes ago and you never called me back. You told me I 158 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,960 did that you were going to pick me up at 11 and if I know you're going to play, I would have made 159 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,360 other plans. This is like the third time recently that you promised to do something for me, Dad. 160 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:31,480 I'm completely flaked out on me. I understand you have to work in your busy, but I'm your daughter. 161 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:36,280 When you promise me something, something that's simpler, coming to pick me up, when you say you're 162 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:41,000 going to pick me up, then you do it. I'm so not fucking standing here in the middle of the night, 163 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:46,600 on the sidewalk, like some crazy homeless person. I'm really getting sick of this shit, Dad. 164 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,080 You keep making all these promises that I can't tell you more than you are the weed topic. 165 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:56,600 You're trying to run a little stone or pot head. And now I'm going to have to fucking take 166 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,880 a taxi all my home. And when I get there, you and I didn't have a little talk about responsibility. 167 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,800 And when I told you better be standing out the day, there's enough money to pay for this cab. 168 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:12,680 You fucking better be wearing men's clothing. She's little actress, isn't she? 169 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,720 Take that out of all the wood. Hello. I'm Chris Layton. And I'm Nick Cooper. And hang on, hang on. 170 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:24,760 Is this thing even on? Hello. Hello. Mr. Curry. Mr. Curry, can you hear us? 171 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,080 Oh, God, it's just going to turn into a method technical blunders and a series of cock-ups, isn't it? 172 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Not necessarily. We're professionals. 173 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,720 Fessional to my ass. Mr. Curry. Can you hear us, Mr. Curry? 174 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,600 You know, I just give up before you. Who is this, Mr. Curry anyway? 175 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Who's Mr. Curry? Who's Mr. Curry? Mr. Curry? 176 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,320 Mr. Curry only happens to be the bad father. 177 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,320 Oh, I understand now. You do? 178 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,080 Yeah, it's a pseudonym for Dave Terrell. 179 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:53,080 No, not Dave Terrell. Adam Curry, the poor father. God, you know, the big boss. 180 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,080 Oh, him, that guy who picked us off of a use station and gave us this nice, 181 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,680 cushy mammoth task. I'm presenting the disaster that is the pod zone. 182 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,440 Don't say that. Everything's fine here, Mr. Curry. Just ignore Nick. 183 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,680 The pod zone is a marvelous thing. Almost. Thank you, Bill English. Join you. 184 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,240 And the other fantastic talent on BT Pod Show. 185 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:16,200 Suck up. Anyway, to the point, Mr. Curry, we would just like to say a few words. 186 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,560 If that's all right with you. Bloody well, should be. 187 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:25,560 We just like to invite all DSC listeners to check out the pod zone's podcast at podzone.btpodshow.com. 188 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,120 Yeah, it's really good. We host a great show with the best pod save music on the planet. 189 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:33,800 And all the great features that your listeners haven't learned to know and put up with. 190 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,400 Such as the Crucial 3, Tech News, the misconceptions for his own thingy, 191 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,120 and Nick's STDs. So that's the pod zone. Podzone.btpodshow.com. 192 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:43,400 Thanks again, Mr. Curry. 193 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Mr. Curry, I remember now the guy who likes naked pictures of podpasses. 194 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,040 Hey, seems to curry would fancy one of mine. 195 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:56,520 Oh, um, I'm not too sure. Either way, Mr. Curry, we love you. 196 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,760 Oh, and I'm one more thing with grunches. 197 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,000 Yeah, you think I didn't know that? 198 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,680 That's why you guys are on the network. We needed to balance it out a little bit. 199 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:07,960 We needed some more scrunchers. 200 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,880 Well, seriously, it's welcome. Good to have you guys aboard. 201 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,800 Hey, let me see. 202 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Coming up in just minutes. Another savant from who joins us in the circle of the 203 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Cirque de Stavant. Oh, there you go. There's anyone. 204 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,160 Let's seek this savant or de Stavant. 205 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,080 Seek de Savant. Yeah. Yeah, that kind of works, doesn't it? 206 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,320 Like Cirque de Sly, only different. 207 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,760 Once in a while, people will call in and when they've had a brush with greatness. 208 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,600 And today is no exception. 209 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,080 Hey, Adam, our green sea from New York, and I'm out here in San Francisco tonight. 210 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,160 Went off to a blogger dinner with Scoville and you and some other people. 211 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,800 You never guessed who I met. I found one of the famous savants. 212 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,560 Say hello. If you did put it for them, then you can't find it. 213 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,600 That's a real surprise. 214 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,200 Wait a minute. 215 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,440 I love it prolific program when he gets flustered, man. You can't understand him. 216 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,640 Here you go. Listen, it's him. It's him. 217 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,640 Wait, wait, wait. I don't understand. 218 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,640 I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand. 219 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,640 What are you saying, man? 220 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,640 Savant. Say hello. 221 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,640 If you did put it for them, then you can't understand. 222 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,640 If you did put it for them, then you can't understand. 223 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,640 I met the prolific programer. 224 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,640 I'm excited. Man, it was great. The intro grammar was here. It was a whole thing. 225 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,640 So, sorry can be here, man. You're up in London, junior thing. 226 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,640 But we'll catch up with you soon. Cheers. 227 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,640 Yeah, buddy. Yeah, I'm sorry, too. 228 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,640 I'm just waiting for the right moment to get the superior savant prolific programer on the show. 229 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,640 Because I know he's got a lot of good stuff to say. I just don't have a reason yet. 230 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,640 But when I'm ready, I know that he'll be there and he'll be ready for me. 231 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,640 The savant specials. 232 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,640 Okay, it's time for our savant from our series of the circle of savants. 233 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,640 Buying the salt and the salt savants. 234 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,640 So long. 235 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,640 I think I'm going to be able to get at least once a month in episode. 236 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,640 There's a fast forward button on there for a reason. 237 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,640 And I hope to be able to talk to savant every single day. 238 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,640 So long. 239 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,640 And by the way, I want you to know that this format change. 240 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,640 Doesn't mean that I don't want to make it pictures, make it pictures. 241 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,640 I'm the salt and the sense of on savants. 242 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:33,640 Joining us now is a guy who I've had some email contact with over the past several weeks. 243 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,640 I think we probably had contact a long time ago as well. 244 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,640 I don't know. My brain is so fried. 245 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,640 And he sent me feedback. He sent me voice mail. 246 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,640 And honestly, you know, the stuff that he sent me has been so long. 247 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,640 I'm like, I just didn't know where to put it. 248 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,640 So I did finally get around to playing one of his, one of his pieces of feedback recently. 249 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,640 And he joins us now as our official nuk savant. 250 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,640 His savant name is a atomic rod. 251 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,640 Rod Adams, welcome to the Daily Source Code. 252 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,640 Hello, I don't know how are you. 253 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,640 I'm good, man. 254 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,640 Well, now you are a home on a second. 255 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,640 I got this from your website. 256 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,640 An atomic entrepreneur. 257 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,640 It's right. 258 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,640 And you've been professing. 259 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,640 And this is what really interested me and want me to get in touch with you and talk about it. 260 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,640 The concept of a backyard nuclear reactor. 261 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,640 You bet. 262 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,640 And an actor safe enough to be surrounded by people. 263 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,640 Okay, so the first of all, are you actually making anything? 264 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,640 Because I looked around your site and it seems like you've been interested in this for a long time. 265 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,640 Are you actually physically creating a reactor? 266 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,640 Or are you just making a plans and following policy and politics, et cetera? 267 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,640 We have invented the metal yet. 268 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,640 We're doing a lot of design work. 269 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,640 And an awful lot of the background work and the foundational work. 270 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,640 Necessary policy regulations that kind of stuff. 271 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,640 It takes a long time to get a permit to do what we want to do. 272 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,640 Well, yeah. 273 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,640 When you're handling uranium and stuff like that. 274 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,640 Well, there's nothing wrong with uranium. 275 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,640 Well, we're going to talk about uranium in a second. 276 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,640 But first my uranium. 277 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:23,640 Okay, so Rod, what you're talking about here is building a... 278 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,640 Or I guess the concept of every home having their own nuclear reactor. 279 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:34,640 And that being an alternative for fossil-based fuel and energy that we currently use. 280 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,640 Correct? 281 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,640 Well, we want to eventually get to homes. 282 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,640 But initially we're going to start more in the mini reactor as the micro reactor. 283 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:49,640 It's going to be more like large buildings and stopping malls and industrial parks and ships and that kind of stuff. 284 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,640 Significantly smaller than the current reactors. 285 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,640 But not quite to the personal reactor mode. 286 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,640 Sort of like the computers. 287 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,640 You know, one from mainframes down to many computers. 288 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:06,640 And eventually we had Jonathan and his boys to invoke to then develop the micro computers. 289 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,640 But it took a while. 290 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:15,640 So on the atomic insights site that I guess is yours. 291 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,640 There's a couple of interesting things here. 292 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,640 And we kind of jails with what you just said. 293 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:27,640 Atomic power is safe enough to float to power floating cities with more than 5,000 people living within 1,000 feet of the plant. 294 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,640 And that's what we call nuclear powered aircraft carriers. 295 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,640 It's clean enough to operate inside sealed submarines. 296 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,640 True, they're nuclear submarines. 297 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,640 Cheap enough to provide overnight power for about 1.5 cents per kilowatt hour. 298 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,640 I have no idea it sounds like a real bargain. 299 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,640 And compared it enough to make suppliers of all other energy sources very nervous. 300 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,640 Okay, let's start with that one first. 301 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,640 You know, nuclear power, you still need to mind stuff. 302 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:58,640 You still need the equivalent of a refinery, which is just like the oil business, I guess. 303 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,640 Why would they be very nervous about it? 304 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,640 Well, it's the matter of scale. 305 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:10,640 A pound of uranium has as much energy as 2 million pounds of oil. 306 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,640 But that in perspective, you can hold the pound of uranium in the palm of your hand. 307 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,640 It's about the size of three hundred marbles. 308 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:24,640 Two million pounds of oil requires 30 tanker trucks to carry it. 309 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,640 Okay. 310 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:35,640 So, but it'll end the pound of uranium right now, even after a seven years worth of price run out, cost about $100. 311 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:42,640 And really, that's all about after all the refining and the enriching that you go through it, 312 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,640 it's surely the value must be much higher after that process. 313 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:52,640 Well, even after all of the refining and rich and commercial nuclear fuel costs about 1.20, 314 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,640 as much as oil does on a per unit heat basis. 315 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,640 So, you can get that 1.5 cents right now. 316 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,640 If you produce electricity with oil, it'll cost you over 8 cents to get it all out. 317 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,640 Okay. 318 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,640 Now, Rod, you're talking, I've got to bring it back to some really understandable concepts. 319 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,640 Okay. 320 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,640 First of all, you talk about uranium. 321 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,640 I mean, this is the yellow cake that Iraq supposedly had, 322 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:30,640 and all the technology that people or other kind of evil acts as evil countries are supposedly developing and using. 323 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:37,640 And here you are talking about uranium, like you could go down to the drugstore and grab a couple marbles worth a minute. 324 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:45,640 Is this, is this incredibly hard to produce, then, or enrich to make viable for nuclear energy? 325 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,640 Well, actually, you don't have to enrich it. 326 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:55,640 There are reactors operating today in Canada that use natural uranium as their fuel source. 327 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,640 It doesn't require enrichment, if you design a reactor problem. 328 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:08,640 Now, if you enrich it, it does make it a little better, it's sort of like the difference between running crude oil in your car and running gasoline in your car. 329 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,640 Gasoline burns a lot better than crude oil does, so you do some refining to it. 330 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,640 That's what we enrich your engine, just to make it work a little better and smaller reactor. 331 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,640 Okay, and build a reactor with natural uranium. 332 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,640 And this uranium, it's a natural element that comes out of the earth. 333 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,640 I mean, is this just an endless supply? 334 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,640 Is it only found in certain locations? 335 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,640 I'm really trying to figure out how viable this is as an alternative to other energy sources. 336 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,640 Where do we get the uranium from? 337 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Is it in my backyard already? 338 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,640 Cause I made some of your backyard. 339 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,640 I wanted to be my neighbor's backyard. 340 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,640 I don't want uranium in my backyard. 341 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,640 Well, it's pretty common. 342 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,640 It's pretty widely distributed to the earth. 343 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,640 It's about as common as 10. 344 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,640 There are some places in the world that have very nice supplies of uranium. 345 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Particularly the major sources of uranium in the world are Australia, which has about a third of the world's known supplies. 346 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,640 And Canada, which has about 25% of the world's known supplies. 347 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,640 The US has a lot. 348 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:18,640 And there's deposits in Kazakhstan and a bunch of other places that are very economical to mind. 349 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,640 But worldwide, there's really no limit to where you can mind uranium. 350 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,640 It's pretty widely distributed. 351 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,640 Right, but that's what we thought about oil initially as well. 352 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,640 It can run out, I presume. 353 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:38,640 Well, we've been looking seriously for oil and using a lot of it for 150 years. 354 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,640 Now, uranium is far more energy dense. 355 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Like I said, one pound of uranium is worth 2,000,000 pounds of oil. 356 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,640 Right. 357 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,640 It's widely distributed. 358 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,640 And we've only really used it for a very short period of time. 359 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:55,640 You know, we haven't used it for energy until that 1957 was the first commercial power plant. 360 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:01,640 And not only that, we found as much as we needed in about the first 10 years of looking 361 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,640 and really haven't looked much in the last 30 years. 362 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,640 And the reason to stop looking was the price got so low that it was economical to develop it. 363 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,640 Look at, abandoned mines in the US that are still full of uranium. 364 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,640 We just stopped producing it because the price was too low. 365 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,640 Okay. 366 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,640 So, and that, by the way, can also be a significant problem. 367 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,640 Because someone's less to go in and mind this stuff. 368 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,640 Right. 369 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:32,640 The price is now almost 10 times, but it was 7 years ago. 370 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,640 So it's back to an economical mineral demand. 371 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,640 Okay. 372 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:42,640 So how much will a backyard nuke reactor cost me to power my home? 373 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,640 Just, you know, taking into account that we are down the line somewhere. 374 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,640 We've gone past the main frame where the PC version of the nuclear reactor. 375 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,640 What's it going to cost me, Rod? 376 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,640 That's how I get to the PC version. 377 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,640 We'll probably be looking at $50,000 to power your home. 378 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,640 But that'll last you for about 30 years without any new fuel. 379 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,640 That's pretty cool. 380 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,640 Yeah. 381 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,640 But it was at all depends on a bigger house. 382 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,640 Your house may be more developed. 383 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,640 Yeah. 384 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,640 But still, 50,000. 385 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,640 And after 30 years, you can fill her back up. 386 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,640 I mean, do you have to get rid of the whole reactor? 387 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,640 I mean, what's the idea here? 388 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,640 And of course, the obvious questions. 389 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,640 What do we do with the waste and how about the dangers? 390 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,640 Yeah. 391 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,640 Well, the waste is very small. 392 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,640 I used to be an engineer on the submarine. 393 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640 And I'm way back in a previous life. 394 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,640 On a nuclear submarine, might I chance? 395 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,640 Oh, yeah. 396 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,640 We'll see on account we have a new way. 397 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,640 We don't really. 398 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,640 We don't have like old fashioned coal submarines or beans or something like that. 399 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,640 I mean, you don't have steam engine submarines. 400 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,640 Well, we do have steam engines submarines. 401 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,640 But they are heated with nuclear energy. 402 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,640 Okay. 403 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,640 Right. 404 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,640 I'm sorry. 405 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,640 We got rid of our last diesel sub probably can. 406 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,640 Well, actually, we had one diesel sub that we just beat commission, 407 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,640 but it was a very specialized deep diving submarine. 408 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,640 But other than that, let me just tell you what's the sub in the Navy in 10 years. 409 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,640 That's going to tell you, man. 410 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,640 There's two things I love. 411 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,640 I love flying and I love submarines. 412 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,640 I cannot tell you. 413 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,640 I am so enchanted by, you know, run silent, run deep. 414 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,640 Ice station zebra. 415 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,640 I've seen all the movies with all the submarines. 416 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,640 I love that shit. 417 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,640 Yeah. 418 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,640 Me too. 419 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,640 It was fun. 420 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,640 All right. 421 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,640 So now to the waste. 422 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,640 Okay. 423 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,640 So arguably, there's very little waste. 424 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,640 Okay. 425 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,640 So just to give you an idea of how little waste, 426 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,640 the reactor on board my submarine. 427 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,640 If you took all the. 428 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,640 If you just looked at the fuel and you put it in a nice container, 429 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,640 it'd be a container, maybe. 430 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,640 Oh, five feet in diameter and 10 feet high. 431 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,640 And that lasted 15 years. 432 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,640 Now we're a 9,000. 433 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,640 Some of them are okay. 434 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,640 But if that. 435 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,640 If that stuff ever gets out of its container, 436 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,640 it could potentially contaminate surrounding. 437 00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,640 What do you think it is green? 438 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,640 Who's or something? 439 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,640 I don't know. 440 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,640 What is it? 441 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,640 It's solid. 442 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,640 Ceramic. 443 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,640 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. 444 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,640 I told you, bro, you don't get my face, man. 445 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,640 I'm not like an anti-nube guy. 446 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,640 I'm just trying to figure it out. 447 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,640 No, it's. 448 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,640 It. 449 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,640 It's a material that they can't leak because it's. 450 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,640 It's solid. 451 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,640 It. 452 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,640 It's like. 453 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,640 Very. 454 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,640 Uh. 455 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,640 Pretty shiny metal. 456 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,640 It was sitting in a. 457 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,640 In a. 458 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,640 Battle of hot water for a long time. 459 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,640 It's just that. 460 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,640 That's a hot water. 461 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,640 And you put it in a nice. 462 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,640 Really infilled container. 463 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,640 And it's. 464 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,640 It's. 465 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,640 Doesn't. 466 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,640 It's. 467 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,640 It's. 468 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,640 I did not know that. 469 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,640 I mean, people totally. 470 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,640 I mean, yeah, you think about waste. 471 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:49,640 You know, if what we see in your mind, of course, is these, you know, excess oil drums that 472 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,640 have big, you know, atomic energy warning signs all over it and radiation signs. 473 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,640 And of course, you're thinking it's green ooze that comes out. 474 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,640 I mean, that's that's totally what I think. 475 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,640 Sure. 476 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,640 Well, you told me that. 477 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,640 I would. 478 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,640 Oh, well, okay, conspiracy. 479 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,640 You know, just put my tin foil back. 480 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,640 No, I'm not. 481 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,640 I'm not. 482 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,640 I'm not. 483 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,640 I'm not. 484 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,640 Three. 485 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,640 Like the portrait, or the compositions. 486 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,640 Certainly. 487 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,640 Okay, and this. 488 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,640 We can get into that. 489 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,640 But, you, I'm already learning some amazing things here. 490 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,640 So it's. 491 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:24,640 In theory. 492 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,640 And the theory is that whatever, in cases the shiny beautiful object that is known as 493 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,640 Luke, it ne下 a waste in theory. 494 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,640 Um, that can be safe guarded in perpetuity. 495 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,640 Sure. 496 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,640 Okay. 497 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,640 Now, sorry. 498 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,640 Put it in the container. 499 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,180 and you can watch it. 500 00:34:42,180 --> 00:34:44,800 And some people want to somehow 501 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,960 postulate a society where nobody will be around 502 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,960 to watch it anymore. 503 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,080 And then, of course, I don't understand quite how they 504 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,560 expect somebody to be hurt if nobody's around to watch it. 505 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,040 But that's beyond, I don't understand how people are going 506 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,680 to be hurt. 507 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,720 No one in the world has ever been hurt by exposure 508 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,840 to the used nuclear fuel. 509 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,160 OK, gotcha, now we can move into the final frontier 510 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,920 of questioning when it comes to nuclear energy. 511 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,200 We've all, we all know the history of Chernobyl. 512 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,200 We know three mile island. 513 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,960 What are the risks involved in meltdown? 514 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,680 Or, and of course, this is something of the most, 515 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:34,200 the past seven years, what if there's a terrorist attack 516 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,200 on a nuclear reactor? 517 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,680 What are the dangers? 518 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,280 Not to, that's a complicated question. 519 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,720 Let me see if I can give you a simple answer 520 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,520 from my point of view. 521 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,240 The technology that we want to develop 522 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:48,960 is called the space dumps on a called a pebble bed reactor. 523 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,920 And it uses a fuel that was developed, 524 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,160 not in the first generation of nuclear plants. 525 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,120 It was developed after a lot of thought 526 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,960 and consideration. 527 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,040 And basically, it is a fuel that cannot melt. 528 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,960 And it's surrounded by materials that are very high 529 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,560 in the country, the capacity of materials. 530 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:15,560 And those pebble bed reactors can operate 531 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,080 in a situation where no matter what happens 532 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,520 to the cooling system, the reactor cannot get hot enough 533 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,960 to melt. 534 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,280 And we like that design a lot 535 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,960 because it makes it easy to design 536 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,920 very safe reactors. 537 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,120 So in other words, the reactor that cannot have a meltdown. 538 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,200 Correct. 539 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,200 Especially when it's designed to be a fairly small reactor. 540 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,200 And you can build a pretty good size pebble bed reactor 541 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,240 and still prove that it can withstand any postulated 542 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:49,160 accident and not melt. 543 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,340 There's a video on the web that 544 00:36:51,340 --> 00:36:54,320 Chinese have one of these operatives pebble bed reactors. 545 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,920 And they actually do the test instead of just doing 546 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,760 the equations and saying it won't melt. 547 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,920 They actually say, OK, watch. 548 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,280 And they turn off all the cooling and watch what it does 549 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:12,280 and it was a Australian Broadcasting Channel, ABC, 550 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,840 to paddle this program. 551 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,840 I think it was called. 552 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Damn those Chinese. 553 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,000 Well, actually they copy it out the Germans. 554 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:26,240 The German pebble bed reactor was developed in Germany. 555 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,240 Called the ABR. 556 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,560 And they built the ABR operative for about 25 years. 557 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,640 They also built a follow-on called the Thorium 558 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,040 Hyperion after THTR. 559 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,560 And so that was also done. 560 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,640 And by the way, you got to say damn those Americans 561 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,640 because it was an American named Ferington Daniels, 562 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,760 who actually developed the idea that they peed 47. 563 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,880 But he didn't have the materials that now is necessary 564 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,880 to make it work. 565 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,680 All right, Rod. 566 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,880 So, so, anyway. 567 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,200 So, it's a South African's work on it too. 568 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,640 So, and if there was an explosion, because I'm just going 569 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,760 based on the fears that it's embedded in people's minds, 570 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,400 if there was some form of explosion unrelated to the core, 571 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,200 but can radiation be released into the atmosphere? 572 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,640 Can we get a Chernobyl repeat or these pebble, 573 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,880 be tree actors? 574 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,880 Are they safe guard against that as well? 575 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,040 It is safe guardians. 576 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,400 Well, they're actually in a full containment. 577 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,920 At least I want to build a full prototype containment. 578 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,320 It's a pretty significant vault with lots of steel 579 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,120 on concrete. 580 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,720 I just can't see it failing and releasing any radio activity 581 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,040 to the environment. 582 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,160 So, Rod, we're going to work to actually build some 583 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,200 that we can prove that to people by actual person. 584 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,120 So, it appears to me that the only hurdle 585 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,080 would you have two hurdles, and maybe I could help you. 586 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,440 I don't know. I'm interested. 587 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,680 I think you got a very compelling story. 588 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,720 And of course, I need to read up and get some background 589 00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:03,240 on this, but the first one would be the PR. 590 00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:08,000 The whole PR aspect, and this goes into politics, 591 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,680 there's just a horrible, horrible meme of nuclear energy. 592 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,040 Everyone's going to be glowing in the dark. 593 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,680 We're going to kill our babies of the future with the waste. 594 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,120 Is there anyone who is trying to work on that problem, 595 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,080 which I think would be almost insurmountable? 596 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,360 Well, actually there are a lot of people, 597 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,120 but a couple of very prominent people. 598 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,760 There's a guy named Patrick Moore who was a Greenpeace founder 599 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:40,400 and has come to the clean side and then become a pro nuclear activist. 600 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,240 He's been talking around all around the U.S. 601 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:46,040 The woman named Christine Pat Wooden, Todd Whitman. 602 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,760 And after who's Jersey a director? 603 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,320 She was from New Jersey, didn't she get kicked out of office in New Jersey? 604 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,120 Well, I don't know about that, but yeah, a administrator. 605 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,480 No, she had some kind of, she was a sex scandal. 606 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,680 She had a sex scandal or something like that. 607 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:00,120 Oh, maybe that was just a fantasy. 608 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,720 That was another New Jersey. 609 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,120 That's right. 610 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,640 No, it was just my fantasy. 611 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,120 I was fantasy people. 612 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,000 First he taught Whitman. 613 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,120 I was like, yeah, baby. 614 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,480 I know what I do to you. 615 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,480 Right. 616 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,160 The other thing, obviously, is money. 617 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,600 I mean, if you were to get into business, 618 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,800 how much money would it take to get a functioning, 619 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:24,160 mall powering, completely terrorist proof, shiny, waste, 620 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,800 pooping reactor together based on pebbles? 621 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,920 The first one will probably cost us about 300 grand. 622 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,840 $300 million, sorry, $300 million for the first one. 623 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:41,160 But that's a lot of it's the initial cost of any new machine. 624 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,160 We believe that we're going to be able to build 10 625 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,760 major lot units for on the order of $20 million of fees. 626 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,480 See, that kind of money doesn't scare me, 627 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,720 because I know it's out there. 628 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:53,400 And well, it doesn't scare me any energy business. 629 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,640 It's an expensive business. 630 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,000 So do you have plans? 631 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,080 Do you have, like, what do you have, like, 632 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:58,840 blueprints? 633 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,680 Do you sit over that at night with your nuclear buddies? 634 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,080 And you draw this up? 635 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,840 Or are you, do you have engineers? 636 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,720 I mean, how far are you with this project? 637 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:11,720 Well, right now we've got some engineers working. 638 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:15,040 Mostly at night on their own computers, 639 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,160 but the good thing about today is we have computers 640 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,680 for a more powerful order that some 641 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,040 were used to design an odd list. 642 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,440 And we have a bunch of business planners, 643 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,640 a couple of MBAs from Duke and an entrepreneur 644 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640 who's been in business for a number of years 645 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,120 and some good advisors and we've got a pretty solid business 646 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,120 plan going on. 647 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,680 All right, man, listen, atomic rods. 648 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,720 That's serious stuff. 649 00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:38,400 Here's what you do. 650 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,040 You get your MBA boys together. 651 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,440 You get them to put together the presentation 652 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,320 or some kind of something that I can send off to someone 653 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,880 like Bill Joy or John Doer or Ray Lane. 654 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,280 I'll send it to a man. 655 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,720 And they'll take a look at it and these are those kind of, 656 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:57,880 you know, these are the guys who can make that kind of money 657 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,080 happen. 658 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,520 Yep, well, it's a public promise, man. 659 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,080 It's a what? 660 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,280 I said, I think you just made a public promise. 661 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,680 We've got that stuff almost ready to go now. 662 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,160 Or with it about two days. 663 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,160 Yeah, yeah. 664 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,080 Of course, you're right, listen to this show. 665 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,920 It'll be all over me. 666 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,120 It's like, hey, man, fuck, why do you mention on the show 667 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,920 or because we want to get in first? 668 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,280 We went, I went and talked to some Google engineers 669 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,360 about two weeks ago at Google headquarters 670 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,000 and talked about this. 671 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,600 And we've been doing a lot of talking. 672 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,520 But there's a lot going on besides talking. 673 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,040 Right on, oops, hold on, that's my, yeah. 674 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,880 No problem. 675 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,040 Hold on one second, I think that's my wife, don't go away. 676 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,080 All right, that's what we call a natural edit. 677 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,600 Yeah, I have to break my wife. 678 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,280 You know, she calling me 11.30 at night. 679 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,800 She's calling to bed. 680 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,240 She's oversees him to Holland this week. 681 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,320 She'll do it her start, Dan, who was the star? 682 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,360 Yeah, man, she's like, I can't, I shouldn't be talking about it. 683 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,320 But she's got an amazing, I'm going to go over it 684 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,160 because I'm also partially, I'm not going to actually be on the show, 685 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,960 but a whole bunch of friends of mine are on the show. 686 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,400 And it's going to be pretty cool. 687 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,280 So she's rehearsing and doing press. 688 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,440 And I don't know, she's having a good time. 689 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,640 And leaving it very proud has been, oh, absolutely. 690 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,160 It's just, I got to get help, man. 691 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,640 I need like a full-time person because I got to take care 692 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,640 of the kid. 693 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,640 I got it to you. 694 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,640 I got the animals. 695 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,640 Of course, the cats. 696 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,640 It's 11.30. 697 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,640 They're still outside running around. 698 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,640 I don't know where they are. 699 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,640 They don't want to come in. 700 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,640 You know, I'm doing everything wrong. 701 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,640 You know, it's typical Mr. Mom shit. 702 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,640 All right, dude. 703 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,640 For those days. 704 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,640 Yeah, my baby is graduating from college. 705 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,640 So it's not been too long ago. 706 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,640 I don't remember those days. 707 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,640 All right. 708 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,640 Well, now I feel old. 709 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,640 Thank you. 710 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,640 Atomic Rod, we're going to check in with you from time to time. 711 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,640 Have your MBA boys and that stuff over. 712 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,640 And if you've got any nuclear news, just give me a shout. 713 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,640 You got it. 714 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,640 What's my every move? 715 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,640 And sticking out on notice? 716 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,640 Do you want to be? 717 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,640 Everything that I want to be? 718 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,640 But for all the wrong reasons. 719 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,640 You'll never see. 720 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,640 Without a creative point in your body. 721 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,640 You're forced to imitate. 722 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,640 You try to walk online. 723 00:44:39,640 --> 00:45:05,640 [ Music ] 724 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,640 You're the world. 725 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,640 You're the world. 726 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,640 You're the world. 727 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,640 You're the world. 728 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,640 You're the world. 729 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:26,640 You're the new hurrayer of art. 730 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,840 And then you're cast out to see 731 00:45:31,340 --> 00:45:35,140 Finding yourself all alone with the most powerful force in the world 732 00:45:36,140 --> 00:45:39,640 Instead of the blue and slowly drift away 733 00:45:39,640 --> 00:46:50,140 [ Music ] 734 00:46:50,140 --> 00:47:20,140 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 735 00:47:20,140 --> 00:47:27,480 I learned that there are now reactors that cannot experience meltdown, hmm, getting pretty 736 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,480 interesting. 737 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,200 Alright tomorrow we'll probably have another sabondon if I can schedule some of them and 738 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:37,160 get someone willing to come on and talk about some ship and Friday of course, the maximum 739 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:42,100 music football Friday I am getting ready for a doozy, it bought it. 740 00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:45,960 DailySourceCode.com is where you can find all the show notes, links to everything discussed 741 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,960 in the show and play it on the show. 742 00:47:46,960 --> 00:48:00,520 And of course, I'm in email anytime at patshow.com, take care everybody, bye now.