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Hey, this is Trucker Tom from TruckerTomPodcast.com, PodShow needs you to help us suck less.

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Just go to suckless.podshow.com for complete details.

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You're Adam, installing.

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You'll, for the DSC-617, I got to set the record straight.

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You was talking about the ending of the sopranos, well,

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it seems that my nephew at water has stolen the ending to the sopranos.

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That's all worry about it. We're going to get it back. I got a baseball bat with his name on it.

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I got a bunch of the boys. We're going to hunt them down and get back the ending, but

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yeah, I was like you. I didn't know what was going on. I was in the backyard trying to adjust the

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satellite dish because I thought I had lost my satellite, but not water stole the ending of the

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sopranos, because nobody in the right mind would end a show like that. So anyway, on the DSC-617,

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let everybody know that we'll get the ending back and let everyone to sopranos fans

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will be satisfied. Capiche. Hi.

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Yeah.

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That's the one.

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This is it.

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It's the one-off song from the summer.

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We heard it here.

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I'm in the name of the source code.

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Aren't you happy?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's Koopa from the Pate Music Network.

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It's another one of those Nigel Specials.

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We've been bringing us all kinds of awesome music.

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Bring it on to the Pate Music Network.

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I just clicked on a link off of one of its weekly emails.

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You sent them out to a whole bunch of podcasts.

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I have no idea what he's doing.

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I got to interview this guy.

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That's for a future daily source code.

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Today was episode number 617 coming to you from the curry condo in San Francisco, Northern California.

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How are you doing?

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Wow.

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What a day.

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First of all, to be in the office and to be working with everybody.

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A lot of new faces.

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At least new faces to me.

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The place is jammed.

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We have two offices now.

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Actually, I think we're very close to signing a lease on a new space.

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But this is this non-smoking thing.

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For some reason, I've been completely energized.

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And today was a really, really good day.

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And I'd like to start with the end of the day first to tell you that I got really excited

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by the keynote, the Steve Jobs keynote that he did here.

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As I told you yesterday, and you probably know, the Apple worldwide developer conference

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is being held here in San Francisco.

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So the place is crawling with macheads.

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And as we've come to expect from Steve, he did a keynote.

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Now, this, of course, a little more technically oriented.

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Although, still pretty consumer-ish, I would have to say.

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Showing new features and, you know, of the mac and, I mean, you have, if you are, obviously,

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You might have even watched it live.

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Now, you have to see this.

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I got to tell you, I've got major wood for leopard.

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I'm just horny for this thing.

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The way Steve Jobs presents that stuff.

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And there's all, it's just, there's cool, cool features.

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And I'm sure by the time leopard comes out, there'll be a new faster

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I mean, all the stuff that just, I have to make, it gives me really, really excited.

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And my via was just sitting there, you know, with its melted alt key from some

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debris burning debris that fell on it.

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It's just kind of sitting there going, you, you thinking about their women.

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And I have to admit, I'm thinking of a woman, her name is leopard.

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And interesting move there by, by Apple to enable development on the iPhone by essentially

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saying, hey, you know, you can pretty much do anything you want.

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No mention of that, but it will be really nice for accessing podcasts.

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of the Safari engine for Windows, which they did.

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I'd say not quite ready for prime time yet.

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No way to import my existing bookmarks.

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I spend a lot of time on taking those bookmarks exactly what I want them to be.

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All stuff that I use is really important.

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And I'm sure it'll get there.

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But right now, it's just not quite ready for prime time for me.

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But still, I want one of them freaking phones too.

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I'm sorry.

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It's just like, ah, I've won it.

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Oh, what is it?

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What is it?

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God, man, that stuff is so inspiring to me.

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And I look at, you know, some of the, some of the jokes he puts into his presentation.

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I'm like, wow, man, when you're really cruising,

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and you've got awesome products that people just really want and are crying about.

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I'm really inspired by that.

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And so that with some, some things that happen today,

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just, you know, sitting down face to face with, with some folks working on a number of different things.

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One of course is is continuing to make podshow.com or we believe it should be.

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And we're starting to surface things very, very slowly.

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And I've actually, I'd like to involve you in a test if you don't mind as, as listeners to the show.

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So we have this channel architecture.

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And I, I don't want to go too deep into it right now.

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But it's, it is significantly different from any other site out there,

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the way they're using channels.

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You'll, you've probably noticed if you visit podshow.com that a lot of,

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actually, two things have really started to surface almost everywhere.

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Play buttons and get buttons.

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And they're very distinct now.

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You can't miss them.

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And, and, you know, please, just see this as a sandbox for right now.

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Because things are going to change pretty rapidly over the next couple of weeks.

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You're literally going to see podshow.com change before your eyes.

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So one of the things that you may not have, you know, quite seen or used yet

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is the fact that everything that you find in podshow.

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Oh, that was disgusting. Excuse me.

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Everything you find in podshow, you can get.

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So if you create a channel and let's just, you know,

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not even think about what that is, but you get a channel by default.

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So you have a default channel in podshow.

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When you see a little get button next to a show,

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then you click on that and it'll give you a list of all the channels you have available.

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If you, if you only have, you never create a new channel, then you just have one default channel.

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That's fine. Just use that.

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So you can add it to that channel.

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the newest episode will be available in that channel.

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So if you go to your channel module, you can hit play channel,

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and it'll just kind of play.

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Now, all, we have so many amazing features that are completely hidden away,

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which, of course, we have to now start surfacing up.

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One of those features is that you can put a channel onto a mobile device.

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You can do that through an RSS link.

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Oh, and actually any other device doesn't have to be mobile.

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Well, let's just make it real simple.

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You can put it on your iPod.

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And as you know, the way to get stuff on the iPod is through iTunes.

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So you can create a channel, and I have several of these.

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In fact, I don't subscribe to single podcast anymore.

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I use, because this is some of the stuff we're talking about today.

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Like, you know, what do I really use pod show for?

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or I'll see who is listening to a show and see what else they're listening to.

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I don't use the iPod at all, practically.

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I use my Nokia phone, the E61 India.

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And it has a podcasting application in it.

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or just it's a URL.

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And I enter that in and up comes my channel.

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And it automatically updates on my phone overnight.

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of shows that are in each channel appear.

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Let me just go to my channels.

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I just have that all set up at atom.podshow.com.

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I'm getting to an interesting point here where I want you to help me out.

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So just bear with me.

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I just want to try and make this clear as possible.

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So you might on the go channel.

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I have quite a few shows, actually.

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I've got the New York Times front page on the media,

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national inquire, or legend, Mike Walker's, the gossip game,

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So you can actually see that if you go to atom.podshow.com,

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you can see what I have in each of my channels.

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So not all of these shows update to daily,

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but when one updates, then it appears in the feed,

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and therefore appears on my Nokia.

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I even named the channel.

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It's for the train rides to shortage.

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is just and it's short stuff.

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but you can also do it for individual episodes.

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because it can get really confusing.

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when you, if you can follow along when I'm about to tell you.

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So because you can get individual shows,

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I can create a channel that you can,

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that'll just, with stuff that'll automatically show up on your iPod,

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or wherever you use this channel, wherever it is.

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So it's really, it's meant for two type of uses.

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And the other use is to put this on a different device.

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So let's just say an iPod to make it simple.

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So when you, after you've listened to the show, or if you're in front of your computer right now,

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you can do it now if you want.

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Just go to dailysourcecode.com and you see the DSC channel.

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And there'll be two links.

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One to put it on your iPod.

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And the other one is a pure RSS link.

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So you can put that on anything that will understand RSS with enclosures.

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Nice little technical info there.

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We'll understand that feed.

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Now what I've done in there is I've put in a couple of episodes

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that I think are worth watching or listening to.

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So I put what I put in there.

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I put just a random hit test episode episode number 42

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just to kind of show that I can get something from way back when I put in.

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I think of this week in tech.

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This week in tech.

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Twitter.

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The one that I was a guest on.

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And I also put in an intro to the channel.

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All just by using a mouse.

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So I didn't have to code anything.

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Anything I found online or if I searched for it because,

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Ali and Andy Potter.org.

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a very extensive certainly of independent mainstream shows.

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The search is not perfect yet totally down with that,

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but it ain't all that bad.

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Anything you find you can add a single episode.

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You can add to your channel.

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So it's a kind of a different way of broadcasting if you will.

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Now I could use it as a companion.

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So for instance, if there, you know, I listened to a lot of stuff.

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or you know, that I want you to listen to,

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I'll just add that single episode to the feed.

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which is another thing I can do.

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I can remove stuff from the feed and replace it.

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I could change the whole channel overnight.

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Now, of course, the stuff you already downloaded

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would remain on your, on your iPod that would automatically

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been brought in.

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But anything new would be introduced right there.

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And it'd be there automatically.

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And, you know, I cut an intro for the video.

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Which is pretty stupid one by the way.

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But I cut a video intro for the channel.

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But you don't have to do that.

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You know, it could be anything.

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It could be any type.

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Literally any type of media that you want.

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It could, it could just be a picture.

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So this channel will perform differently,

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depending on where you're using it.

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Of course, if you have, if you don't have a video iPod,

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video stuff is not going to play.

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I'm not sure about the pictures.

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I think pictures will probably display on a video iPod.

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But certainly everything will work in the dashboard.

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And so there's, you know, it's funky, right?

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We're figuring this stuff out.

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So I'm trying to keep it pretty simple.

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Keeping it just very limited to audio and video.

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I am doing a mixed channel.

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And I want you to take a look at that.

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And please, put it on your iPod.

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And, you know, let's just get a feel for it.

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And see if it's an actual experience that you like and let me know.

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And if there's anything that, you know, that you dig.

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Obviously, you can go out and you can get that show for yourself.

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And by now, I'm sure you understand that you can clearly.

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You can create your own channel and do this very same thing.

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So it's, it's kind of using Poncho.com as a utility.

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But in a very interesting way, because, you know, for me to be able to create.

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And now, of course, I'm going to create a channel with single episodes for Patricia.

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That'll just go on an iPod actually on iTunes.

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She doesn't, well, she's used my iPod.

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But she just, she understands iTunes.

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And she'll understand how to go into it.

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And, you know, into a, just open up one little folder there and see if there's something new to play.

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And she'll get that.

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And so I can put all kinds of stuff in there.

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And I'm really moderating that channel or, or on the editor of the channel or maybe

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maybe I'm just kind of like a broadcaster in some kind of bizarre to it twisted way.

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So again, go to dailysourcecode.com or query.com.

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You'll see the link there.

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It should open up iTunes automatically.

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Get the channel for you.

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And if you're using something else, there's an RSS feed for you.

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podcasting communities done the word podcasting a huge disservice and

643
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and the technology, it's not even technology, it's the presentation of

644
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crap. It's because we can't explain it. It's like Tivo.

645
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You know, Tivo has spent $300 million trying to explain to people what the

646
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frick of Tivo is. And they failed miserably at it. But you know, when people

647
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get a Tivo, guess what? They don't want you know, try and take it away from them.

648
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They'll stab you and they will. They'll bite you whatever it takes to do not

649
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remove the Tivo. So it's one of those things that you just have to show

650
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people in order for them to understand. And you know, and again, I'm going back to

651
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the whole job's thing today when he claims that there's half a billion downloads

652
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of iTunes onto Windows computers. You know, I don't, that seems like a lot. But

653
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anyway, when I want to ask someone, you got an iPod. Yeah, I got an iPod. Well,

654
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have you ever seen the little word podcast in iTunes? No, I haven't seen it.

655
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You know, the people that just don't see it. You know, it's just not on the radar

656
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like that. But if I said, Hey, man, let me send you an email and you just click

657
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on that link and you'll have a channel of of what we can call podcasts or let's

658
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just say you'll have a channel of cool shit on your iPod. Now that, you know,

659
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you don't have to explain it. It's like, ah, it got some cool shit. I don't

660
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cool shit. Look, it's like, it's like shit. It's in trying to explain a podcast

661
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thing. You said that people understand internet radio better than podcast. And I

662
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was thinking, it's really not just internet radio. But it's kind of like internet

663
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radio with something like TV or digital video recording. Yeah, okay. So that's my

664
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point. And I appreciate what you're saying, but I don't think we should compound

665
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the problem by trying to say podcasting is internet TV. It's not

666
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just getting your shows from internet. But your computer actually collects your shows

667
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in a way that a digital video recorded does so that they're downloaded and

668
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organized and ready to do it. And those people are advertisers are afraid of

669
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digital video recorders. Although I saw a survey somewhere where some results

670
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of a survey crap. I wish I had that. I probably saved it somewhere. It said

671
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that when Tvo users, um, misquoting is I think it was like when Tvo users

672
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watch ads, um, they really want 30 second ads and not 15. So I don't know what

673
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the hell it was. But I still, you know, hey, look, make the ads entertaining.

674
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Make people want to watch it. There are ads I watch and there are ads I'll stop

675
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,360
for because they're funny. Even the dam, uh, what is it? Uh, 1 1 8 1 1 8.com

676
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ads that they had on before and after lost on channel. Or I watch that. Those guys

677
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are dumb and makes me feel good to watch. Anyway, just thought it was a better

678
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,920
analogy. Love the show. Absolutely. Thanks a lot, Adam. Take care. I appreciate it so

679
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,440
much. Janice, will you please call back more often? And let me know what you do. And, uh,

680
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:55,120
well, I'll be remiss if I didn't ask for some naked pictures. Oh, shit. This is the one.

681
00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:01,200
Let's have a word with the nylon spread and the news with the smile on where the

682
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:07,360
wrong old right window for light. Let's listen for the wild and the nylon. Oh, yes,

683
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,480
he's back. And I don't know if I'm just missing his comments because he refers to it

684
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,280
as if comments are being sent. He's calling in every single day. But here he is. And he's

685
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,720
got a lot of crap on his mind. The nylon everybody. Yeah, I'm the nylon. I must be a little

686
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,080
reluctant to play some of my calls these days. Hey, that's what I'm talking about. I don't

687
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,920
receive your calls, okay? I don't know what you're doing, but they're not coming to me. This is the

688
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,840
first time I've received one since the last time you said I don't play your calls. It's too critical,

689
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:41,600
but I'll keep going. So first point is, um, John DeVoilac. This guy is a vice president of your

690
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,640
organization and vice president and most company means he's an officer of the company. Yeah,

691
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,000
no, no, no, no. If you're an officer of the company, you're an officer of the company. If

692
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,080
you're a vice president, vice president is not like an officer. Officer would be a chief executive

693
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:07,760
officer or chief technology officer. BP is vice president, not officer. But I think your point is

694
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:14,000
well made. You know, he's he's, he's dedicated to the success of the company. Yes, he's a stakeholder.

695
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:20,480
And I, uh, yeah, stakeholder. And, you know, he's committed to maximizing the value of the company.

696
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,560
Well, as is everyone at Pod Show, everyone at Pod Show is a stakeholder in the form of options.

697
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:33,200
So they, uh, they absolutely have a stake in, uh, in a number of different types of outcome.

698
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,840
I found them a couple of times. The guy doesn't know what his job is. You know, the

699
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,560
PR release you put in, devour, devour act is always trying to stumble to say,

700
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:48,000
I, what is Ron Bloom mean by all this hyperbole? Guy is in our particular about what he does.

701
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,480
And it's now three weeks. And I'm sure we hear something. But I think most of your listeners

702
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:58,240
and audience are also confused. You know, you know, nylon, um, after you, hopefully just listen to

703
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,200
my whole rant about channels, go back and reread the press release. And by the way, you know, I had

704
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:09,760
John on the show. Ah, something stuck in my nose. Hold on. I had John on the show. And we

705
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,160
laughed about the press release. It's a press release. It's for the press. It's not for bloggers

706
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:22,160
and nyloners. It's a press release. You know, old school, old world. You know, there is still

707
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,680
a need for that. And it's sometimes is quite useful. Now, but go back and reread that and maybe

708
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,040
something will start to dawn on you as to how we're putting all this stuff together.

709
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:37,120
The icing on the cake is Twitter 100. He's on there with Leo. Leo is the show by saying, John,

710
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,400
anything you want to plug? John plugs his blog. Nothing else. He's a vice president,

711
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:48,160
a part show. He should be plugging. Nothing. Two minutes later, Leo prompts some. Leo comes back

712
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:54,320
and prompts him and says, how about part show, John? And then John comes in. What kind of officer

713
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,760
of a company needs prompting to talk about his company? So two things there. First of all,

714
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:07,520
we're very happy with the work that John already does. His writing, his own blog,

715
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:17,040
cranky geeks, his appearances on CNBC. And of course, this week in tech. And I mean, how

716
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:24,080
lame would it be if he went around and all these shows, all of a sudden promoting his, you know,

717
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,560
he doesn't, well, he does promote his blog. But not like, hey, you know, I've got a blog. It's,

718
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,280
you know, he'll say, I wrote about this on my blog. And I'm sure in the future,

719
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,560
we'll say, oh, I said this on tech five, which is unofficially soft launched, whatever the hell,

720
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:43,120
that means tech five dot pod show dot com to ECH five. I think tech five FIV might also work,

721
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:50,960
which should. You know, so when it's in reference, then it's relevant. And of course,

722
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:57,840
we'll talk about it. But there's, you know, we didn't buy, you know, if I wanted to be on Leo show

723
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:03,760
with a pod show commercial, I'd fucking buy a commercial. You know, that's not, that's, you know,

724
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:10,960
these are existing things, existing existing work he was doing. There's no need to do that.

725
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,080
That's just kind of lame. And Leo prompted him. That's right, Leo really asked him, I heard the show.

726
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,000
And so John told him, I think that John was even, you could probably hear he was unprepared for the

727
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,360
question. He wasn't intending on talking about it at all. You know, there's a right time and for things

728
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,480
and a right place for things and a right moment. And, and that wasn't it. So I think, you know,

729
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:39,680
maybe just being, uh, fucking decent nylon. Um, quite the confused. He doesn't talk about it on cranky geeks.

730
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,120
You know, this sounds like a very titular fuzzy sort of relationship to have.

731
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,880
I give it one year, you know, the guy doesn't seem to be totally aligned and engaged and committed.

732
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,320
Good. You know, what are you? Now we'll sudden you're the media pundit. I give it one year.

733
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:03,120
Shut up. See attributes for a single officer. Last and not least is back to Trinity. You may not

734
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:08,480
want to hear it, but, you know, this meant my ride. You know, this is a great idea five months ago.

735
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:15,360
It was audience generated, audience energize, audience customize, everyone was pushing the ports for

736
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:21,120
open. They wanted to get on the Trinity band, Reagan. Nothing's happened because you're trying

737
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:28,000
to get a sponsor's logo on poor little Trinity. Let's not monetize Trinity. It was a good idea.

738
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,840
The audience was behind it. Let's get it over with. Run the thing, of course, the US, let everyone

739
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:41,200
pedal 25 miles back home. Um, you know, three Trinity is free from the tent. Stop monetizing everything.

740
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,280
It's the hall. It was a nice idea. The audience loved it five months ago, and by

741
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,560
forgetting that it's an avenue focused on your audience. What's going to bring them some joy. So,

742
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:56,160
oh, I don't know. All right. I'm going to say you're you're right on some of that. Absolutely. The heat

743
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:02,400
was on five months ago. Now, I totally believed that the heat is there. But there's a couple of things.

744
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:08,800
First of all, um, in putting this together, you know, this is a corporation where they're

745
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,760
you like it or not. Uh, and I am an extension of a corporation. And so there's a couple of things

746
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:19,600
that we have to do properly. Um, insurance is really part of it. So, you know, and so the minute you

747
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:25,040
even start looking into that shit, guess what? I'm busy. And I hate looking at that. So I got to

748
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:30,160
get a producer to do it. You know, producers not free. Yeah, because, of course, I could get someone

749
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:36,640
to do it for free. And I could, you know, find people just enthusiastic. But I want things done right.

750
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:42,640
I think this is a big project. And it's, and honestly, it's much bigger than I ever expected

751
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:48,480
to be just thinking through the logistics of it. And no, I mean, I don't want, uh, to have to rely

752
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,440
on people spending their own money to do deadhead trips. You know, in one way, because, you know,

753
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,840
you're going to drive some part of the right. You have to get back somehow, eventually, unless you

754
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:03,680
had it planned that way. So then you're into logistics. You know, there's a lot, a lot of logistics.

755
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:10,160
Yeah, we could have seen where we got with it. But it's my fucking car. You know, I want to do this

756
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,720
ride. It's not like, oh, I'm just throwing my car. It's my car, all right. And, you know, the car is

757
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:21,840
also has had a lot of problems. Oh, Rosie, she hadn't even told me about the latest, uh, Trinity

758
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:28,960
Clamter Port on us. Uh, apparently she would not no longer accept the key. Uh, I'm going to

759
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:36,720
get a locksmith over and it's like 200 bucks for a new lock ignition, the ignition. So she's in the

760
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:43,280
garage now here at the condo. And, uh, you know, as I think everything that that could have broken

761
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,480
has broken and everything that need to be fixed has been fixed. So anyway, there's definitely

762
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,360
costs associated with it. But I want us to have fun with it. And so you're right, you know,

763
00:38:53,840 --> 00:39:02,240
I was, I was ill-prepared, um, to take advantage of the, the, the wave that came.

764
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,080
Although I do totally believe we can rekindle that when the time is right. And that time is going to

765
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:15,200
come. And yes, um, I am actively looking for a sponsor. It's not necessarily me monetization,

766
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:21,360
okay? It's like saying NPR monetizes on their sponsorships. You know, sometimes you just need to

767
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,240
sponsorship to make something work. I just don't want to do this ad hoc. There's just too much

768
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:32,240
involved. Um, for me, I mean, someone would have to manage it regardless, regardless. You know,

769
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:36,000
Barbara was putting all together. She put a proposal together. And she wanted decent money, you know,

770
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to manage the whole thing. Uh, and you have to pay anyone, anyone's a decent money. And it's a,

771
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it's not like a day project. It's a three to, it's like a three-month project, I think,

772
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with preparation, with a trip, you know, this actual work involved. Now, that said, we, I think we're

773
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very close. And that's what I alluded to last week. We're very, very close, um, to a relevant sponsor

774
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who really wants to step up and step into this project. And, you know, I'm excited about that.

775
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And so if that possibility is out there, and that's for real. And as I said, I would

776
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have an update on that this week, you know, then I think it's worth waiting for.

777
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I think we can still have fun. There's a saying in Dutch about did it to fotsit for your

778
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need. Uh, and of course, it, uh, has not translated it all. Uh, but whatever's in the barrel

779
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is isn't going to go sour. Adam, I beg you, don't become tip my call version 2.0,

780
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3 20. Don't let Madison Avenue and logos touch her. It was a great idea.

781
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,360
Ah, I feel better. You're so, uh, my one.

782
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Nylon. Um, I really don't like you, but I really, really, really do appreciate

783
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,640
you calling in and giving me a piece of your mind. Whoa, he's an island.

784
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Fucking expatriate. He's in London, buddy. He's from New York. Whoa, he's my

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[ Music ]

786
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All right, I stand corrected.

787
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,720
It's not exactly going to be pod save any time soon.

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Turns out the official Transformers theme sucks.

789
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So, fallen in, you're back a lot beside a date.

790
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It looks a little take on the official theme, but the fans aside.

791
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Leave a lot of evolution and be my friends.

792
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There'll be a video out on YouTube of that tomorrow.

793
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Which reminds me, I'm just waiting around now. I don't really have time to go trolling YouTube,

794
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,040
but I'm so convinced that within a day or two we're going to see the real

795
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official ending of the sopranos. I think there's going to be a viral explosion of people creating

796
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funny endings, dramatic endings, endings they act themselves, endings that will be spoofed,

797
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takeoffs, etc. And quite honestly, I'm really looking forward to it.

798
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We talked a lot today about a lot of stuff. One more thing, I know I'm asking a lot of you,

799
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so besides clicking on a link, I know it's quite a task and check out what you think of my channel

800
00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:00,800
in iTunes, or maybe just some of you may check it out on your iPod, others, only on iTunes,

801
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:06,560
or whatever you are. Let me know how that goes for you. And if you have a chance, I'd like you to

802
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,960
become a member of the super panel. This is a whole suckless thing you've been talking about.

803
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,600
We really want to understand more about you. I want to understand more about you as my audience,

804
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:21,280
and we'll know that you're a DSC listener, and you'll also indicate what other things you

805
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:27,360
listen to. And if you're a part of the super panel, then it kind of continues. And you don't have to

806
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:33,120
do every single survey. I realize that what I'm doing here is basically saying to you as a friend,

807
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,600
hey, just put my arm around you. Hey, when we go down to the mall, and when those people ask you

808
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,640
to take the survey, take it, okay? Now I understand. It can be a pain in the ass, but I really

809
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:49,200
would appreciate it. And soon advertisers will also be asking you through us as a part of the

810
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,560
super panel, what you think of ads and how they're placed in podcasts, talking about pre-roll,

811
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,680
post-roll, host endorsements, all this stuff. We get lots of feedback and you tell us lots of things

812
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,640
about what you feel and what you think, but here's an opportunity to actually tell us. So the

813
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,840
questions, very basic right now, but they are going to become extremely targeted also for other

814
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countries. You know, this is going to be a long campaign that's going to, you know, the

815
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suckless inserts are going to go away, you know, within a relatively short time, you know,

816
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:25,280
the whole point is we got your attention for a number, in a number of ways, I'd really like that

817
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:30,560
and I really appreciate if you take the survey for me. And I'll send you one of my naked pictures.

818
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DailySourceco.com, add on podshow.com, looking forward to talking to you guys tomorrow. Bye.

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