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Are you tired of that yet?

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Me too.

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This is Matt DiTilo of Matt's Today in History, and on this day in 2007, I helped

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pod show suck a little less by putting together a shorter blur of asking you, a podcast

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producer and listener, to visit suckless.podshow.com, and sign up to participate in some

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pod show surveys that will make a difference.

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Once the last time a media company asks for your opinion, never, well then, let's make some

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history together, visit suckless.podshow.com, and get involved.

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So you expect a football Friday, on the DSC638?

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Well, guess what?

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It's not going to happen.

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So Adam claims he got busy with the board meeting, but really I think he was reading Harry

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Potter.

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Oh well, here's your DSC638, a little less.

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[ Music ]

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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Now many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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We got a crisis going on over here. I don't know if you've followed on the news by now is probably spread around the globe that

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we have severe flooding throughout the United Kingdom. Mainly in the north that is now really spread to the Midlands.

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England as we've called Wales and now even to parts of the southeast. Yes, even London is witnessing this.

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Let me tell you Friday morning. Of course, the whole day started off food barred as it would on a Friday just by this horrible, horrible weather.

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In the M25 flooded there were the M40, not that I have to travel over that but just giving an example. People were stuck for seven hours in traffic.

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We have water plants closing because they've been contaminated by flooding. We have power station shutting down. It's pretty damn bad here.

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It really is already insurer saying it's going to cost 2 billion pounds. That's 4 billion dollars or a week in Iraq.

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It's just unbelievable what's going on. I know I predicted good weather for this week. I'm not going to revise that I will say we're not going to see such a dumping of rain like we've seen over the past two to three days really.

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It was just horrible. I actually took the train in avoiding the highways.

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Trains were slowed down. They couldn't go as fast because of the accumulation of water.

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I think I was also something about slippery tracks. I'm not quite sure. It was difficult getting into town.

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Town was heavy, heavy traffic. There was just tons to do.

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Boom, boom, boom, boom, meeting after meeting. That's some fascinating people who will be starting some shows with.

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If you've ever heard of the medium Gordon Smith, I had a great great meeting with him also the barefoot doctor who actually, you know,

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if we're going to do a show with someone who calls himself the barefoot doctor and says he can cure you just by, you know, by using his hands.

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I'm like, shit, cure me, baby. You know, remember, I don't know if a long time listeners were recall that I once fell asleep on an airplane.

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American Airlines going from, let me think. I think it was maybe Los Angeles or San Francisco to Miami.

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Maybe it was New York to Miami. And I fell asleep on my, on the palm of my hand and really messed up a nerve.

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The result is that for the past two and a half years, you know, my left index finger is just a tiny bit numb.

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And the barefoot doctor said, hold on a second. He, he jammed his finger into me into my back. That would be.

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And really pushed it quite deep. And he said, look, within 48 hours, you'll notice a difference. I got to tell you, it's almost gone.

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I mean, it's like two and a half years and hundreds and hundreds of pounds in physical therapy and low and behold.

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Anyway, so we had a board meeting started 6 p.m. on so I didn't have time in the morning to do a show.

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This is all leading up to a huge apology, obviously.

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We had a board of directors meeting in San Francisco, which started at 10 a.m. 6 p.m. in London.

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And that really lasted until, well, well, past 10 o'clock.

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And, you know, I got home. I was so tired. It's been two, but maybe even three really, really long weeks.

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It's, I was dead. And, you know, I took the advice that I should have taken last weekend. You guys said, screw it.

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Don't do your show on Saturday or Sunday. Relax. I couldn't go flying or anything fun like that.

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But there was something that I received on Friday from Head Sales Weasel, Chris Jacob. He brought for me an iPhone.

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Yes, I have been assimilated.

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And, uh, I've been playing with this device all weekend long, nonstop.

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Setting up my entire environment to conform to it because, of course, there's a little bit different than working with the trustee, uh,

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Nokia E61I because you're right back into the, the throws of iTunes and I really haven't used iTunes very much at all.

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If at all, even on this computer. Um, so I'm back to sinking.

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Over the course of, uh, the next few days, over the course of the week, I'll be telling you about my experiences. The first thing I did though, um,

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you know, I knew that I did not want to have yet another AT&T account. I have a singular wireless account,

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which, uh, you know, I've been moving that SIM card back and forth from every single Nokia phone that I've had.

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In fact, it started out with my blackberry, which you remember how much I love that device. I really did.

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And, uh, I was looking around that I found at hacktheiPhone.com. I found a procedure that enables you to, um,

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insert any AT&T compatible SIM card, meaning that I could, because that's really all I want us to do.

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You know, I want to test the phone out. I don't want to completely commit to it. Now, by changing my number, I'd say that's a pretty big damn commitment.

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So, even though I'm an AT&T customer, you can't just put a different SIM card in immediately. It'll say, no, no good.

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Uh, please put in a compatible, you know, please put in the SIM card that came with the phone.

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You've got to go through the activation process. And, of course, this activation process takes place through iTunes.

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So, uh, because of iTunes lives on the local computer, you know, lots of, uh, engineers and, well, you can call them hackers if you want.

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Um, you know, have a way to track and see what communication is going on between the computer and the iPod, even though they really haven't been able to get into the iPod.

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And so, uh, essentially, you load a program that acts like iTunes and routes around it, you know, there's some interesting steps where you, um,

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have to click restore, then unplug the, uh, the iPhone from your computer quick before iTunes is able to recognize it's, uh, it's gone.

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Um, and it works. If I can work, first time off. So, I inserted my, uh, my singular one, uh, SIM card and presto, my, my number and even in iTunes, it says, here's your number.

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So, that was great. And, of course, I've been following along on the, uh, on the iPhone, on an iPhone mod, uh, IRC channels to see the, the progress, you know, obviously whatever one wants is to unlock the phone.

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So, you could put in any SIM card from any network. I could take quite a while. It's not, it's not a trivial exercise.

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And I think a lot of that information usually comes out after it's been leaked from one of the factories probably, um, that, you know, information just has a way of flowing in that regard.

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Um, but for right now, I'm, I'm happy just, uh, just testing another, you know, so here's the one thing I've got to say right off the bat.

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They have figured something very important out. The whole idea, and I, and I went back actually, and I, I looked at Steve Jobs's keynote where he announced the iPhone.

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And he was talking about the, the internet navigation device. And yes, as an internet navigation device, I have to say it is outstanding.

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And the main reason is because, um, you're not looking at what Steve Jobs calls the baby web.

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When you load a web page, you can see the entire page in the browser and you can, you know, double tap to zoom in,

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or you can use the pinch finger, move to zoom into where you want to be.

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And it's incredibly important. It's not just a trick, you know, the Nokia.

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So let me just step back for a second. So, you know, we are used to seeing web pages in context. So we understand almost instantaneously, you know, what's the layout, where's the information, what's the navigation structure, except, of course, with Pacho.com.

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Working on sucking lesson that regard.

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Having that knowledge then allows you to navigate through the rest of the site.

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When it comes in all, you know, stuff on top and, you know, one big long strip of information, you know, what that looks like right in your cell phone,

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where you get the, the side bars, the first thing you have to scroll all the way through, you know, you lose your whole context of information.

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Now, in the East 61 eye the way they solve that is they have a little mini map.

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And so when you really start to scroll, you then see the whole page in this kind of mini map that is off to the side.

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So it does give you some context as to where you are in, in navigating throughout this page because let's face it, you're scrolling, so you're navigating.

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Brilliant, brilliant the way they've solved that absolutely make so much sense.

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And this screen, they, I don't know if these guys are actually making money on the iPhone because this screen is of outstanding quality, of course, a lot of it.

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There's the courts, technology stuff that they already had figured out in, in OS 10, but, um, man, wow, the, the browsing experience is utterly, utterly fantastic.

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Now I don't know about battery life yet, you know, I've run it down a couple times already, which is not so surprising.

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I'm putting it on an extended long charge now, I ran it all the way down because, you know, batteries do develop some kind of memory.

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If you recharge them halfway through and you do that too often.

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Yeah, I, you know, I was very ready to hate this, extremely, and I didn't get it for free.

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I paid for at least Chris paid for, I got to pay him back.

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I was really prepared to not like this at all.

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Now, once I've gotten around some of the ugly things, which is pretty traditional for, for Macintosh, you know, out of the box, it works great for everybody.

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And if you want it to perform, you know, in a, in a way that would be consistent with a machine that is a bit more open, then you have to hack stuff around.

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I think that's kind of the Mac way.

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So, so far so good, I'm given it the thumbs up at the moment.

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And I just saw that, that apparently they've gotten into the OS into the file system, so we're close to something.

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Yeah, it wouldn't be cool if you couldn't SSH into your, into your iPhone.

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Just the FTP in drops them stuff off.

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Man, if we can really get in, if we can really load a shell, it's going to become a very, very important device.

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One more thing I want to say about it, their integration of QuickTime is really stellar.

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I've been messing around with that, because of course, I'm highly interested.

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You know, QuickTime is, it's not as prevalent as flash on most computers.

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But what wouldn't it be amazing if QuickTime turned out to be the mobile format?

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And of course, it's not a format.

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It's really, it's a, it's a container to be quite honest.

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They do have formats within that, but you know, can also be H.264.

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And so I have QuickTime video in it, but it just works so beautifully.

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I think every MP3 link you click on it plays.

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Most MP4 links definitely all MOV linked or almost all.

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I mean, there's some weirdness is to what formats it will accept.

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I got to get some information on that.

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But it just works.

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In fact, I even tried out, I watched the Steve Jobs keynote.

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I went to the Apple site, went to QuickTime, went to Keynotes and events, clicked on the, on the,

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was it the developers conference, I think.

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And, and it played it.

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It's streamed the QuickTime video right into my iPhone.

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Got to tell you extremely impressed.

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Adam, good afternoon.

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It's you.

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I am calling to prove once and for all that someone actually, we've got articles in playboy.

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I got a script for years and years ago and claimed it was purely, you know, for the free speech stuff

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and the first amendment promotion and all things and articles and all that stuff.

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But finally, it's, you know, it's living proof because this current issue has this tremendous article about new media and stuff.

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And in this nice little graphic of a big column of logos of sort of web to .0 or a new media company, the pod safety and user network logo,

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right at the top of the entire column over YouTube and overall these other big, big, huge, well known names.

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And the first person quoted in article is Ron Bloom.

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Very nice.

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So I don't know if you caught that using your ego filter or vanity filter, or if it is used and checked for news about stuff on the web.

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But, uh, awesome piece.

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Really terrific exposure for a pod show.

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And, uh, well, of course, it would be exposure for anybody who had the articles in playboy.

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But anyway, uh, how about a great great weekend and, uh, photo, uh, continuing to hear the shows.

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Talk to you.

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Bye bye.

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Oh, Shabbat Shalom, my friend.

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Yeah.

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Are you and Mark Yoshimotan Mkov, the only people who pointed that out, of course, I had seen it already.

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Away with those one more someone sent me a, no, that was, I think, Mkov sent me a scan of it.

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Uh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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I remember being interviewed.

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I was on the call too.

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They didn't quote me though.

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I guess I'm completely uncoordable.

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But I believe it.

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I believe it does work, man.

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Once again, this weekend, uh, we had Dr. Cockney featured in the news of the world that humongous

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newspaper here in, uh, in the UK, 9 million readers only comes out on Sunday and people say

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they bite for the sports, but it's just filled with naked chicks, which is kind of the culture

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here in the UK.

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So it's not like a smart, well, yeah, it is smarty.

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But, uh, Dr. Cockney fits in just perfectly out half to say.

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And man, boom, download requests through the roof, registrations through the roof, um, you know,

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people pay attention to that stuff.

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They, they do read the articles.

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In this case, they take the, you know, they take all the steps to actually go over to

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website, you know, then go into another website and play something.

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It works.

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Al-Warring, right, our front, I'm going to go long today because there's been so much

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response to, uh, to the trickery of television.

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Of course, that's where we left off, uh, with the 637, where I went through that

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interview with Michael Grayton, David Cox, uh, some great feedbacks and great examples of

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things that people have witnessed themselves when it comes to, uh, media deception.

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You know, nothing earthshattering, but some great, some fun things to listen to for

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sure.

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And, uh, so I just got so many.

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I just want to rush through the, you just bang out a couple.

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Also, today is the day of the cheddar, uh, if all goes according to plan and I think

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it will, uh, somewhere near the end of our day in the United Kingdom will be releasing

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the new channel editor functionality at podshow.com, which will enable you to determine the

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output of your channel feeds, how they play.

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And, and, you know, I've been playing with this iPhone already.

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I have yet another, another play out in mind is to how I want stuff, uh, to be made

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available.

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Because that's really one of the big differences you'll see is now as an audience member,

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you can go to anyone's channel and decide how you want to listen to it.

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You just want to play it in the dashboard, click play channel, boom, it'll play.

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You want to play it in real or Windows media or wind amp, no problem.

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We've got options for those.

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Want to put it on your iPod through iTunes, no problem.

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Got an option for that.

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Do you want to just download it? No problem.

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Got an option for that.

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Do you want the RSS fee?

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No problem.

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There's the icon.

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Yep.

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So let me just, this is actually left over from, from Thursday, just a couple of

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quick blurbs on channels since it's coming out today.

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Hey, I just want to share channels for the nylon and anyone else is still

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doesn't get it.

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And if I'm not right about this, you're not going to play this.

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I'm just going to assume I know what I'm talking about.

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And even if I don't, I don't know.

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He said he doesn't need channels because your already has iTunes, which he thinks does the same thing.

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But it's not just playlists.

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It's smart playlists.

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And iTunes, there's smart playlists.

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You can set them up according to any combination of albums and artists and podcasts and banks.

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You know, now that I've been using iTunes again, it is very much like smart playlists.

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Oh boy, is it?

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Except they're Uber, smart.

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Uber, smart.

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Because you put shows in and shows, there's your serendipity factor.

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They pop out episodes and you never know when it's going to come.

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You never know what's going to be in it.

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Oh, man.

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Yes, yes.

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Or yeah.

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And this is the last bit of functionality I'm waiting on.

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You can put channels into channels.

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Can you imagine how much cool stuff is going to happen to your smart playlists?

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Quite a bit.

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So, that's more of what channels are, but if you've done much with smart playlists,

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you know, that you can base them on other smart playlists.

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So, you're really sharing your iTunes playlists and sharing it.

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And you're losing your getting other people smart playlists.

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And then you get the channels within channels, which is, you can base your smart playlists

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to other people smart playlists, which is, yes.

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Yes, I guess that's a big thing.

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That is.

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Oh, my help.

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Thanks, man.

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That's absolutely right.

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That's exactly how it's supposed to work.

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And I must say, great explanation for someone who's never actually used it.

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I'm so happy because, you know, I keep comparing this to how tough it is to explain Tvo.

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And you can't really understand it until you use it.

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And it's the same thing.

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So, having this level of understanding without having used it, thank you.

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I applaud that.

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Hey, Adam.

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This is Chris and Philadelphia.

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Let me sum up my previous two long comment.

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It's about two things, the first is the magical player for podcasts.

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I think it would be some sort of program that fits on a portable device.

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Like, at any hundred in the iPhone, not my palm, but that is not so good.

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That, you know, it can sink.

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It can download all the stuff on the go.

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And let me see back.

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Let me have it to a shared field.

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Let me get it put in the channel.

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Let me rate it.

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Share it with my friends.

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I like that.

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Yeah, I'm down with that.

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And we'll have some of that functionality in our channels.

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Although I am moving away from the download synchronized part.

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I can just see where we're going.

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And not that we're not going to need this for a long time.

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But eventually, bandwidth and connectivity will just be so prevalent.

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You'll be able to, you know, stream stuff live from anywhere uninterrupted.

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I'm pretty convinced of that.

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Maybe five years from now, so we have some download synchronization things we need to do.

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And yes, over the air.

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But please, let's keep it broadband over the air.

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Because it's a bad experience doing that over a mobile network.

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It could also be a very expensive experience.

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I want to see.

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So hopefully some get on that for the iPhone for any hundred and stuff.

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And second, the chatter sounds awesome.

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It's exactly what the future media is.

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Like everyone have their own little feeds and stuff getting passed around.

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One of the problems with with iTunes and channels is that, you know, it sticks all

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of shows in the one list.

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Is it possible to use OKML in this format?

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I know that OKML is like, you know, a listing of RSS feeds.

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So I would like to really like, I nested list of RSS feeds in ID.

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I'd have my basic channel.

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Click on it.

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It opens up two more listings, two more directories, I guess.

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And there's my, you know, electricity podcast.

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And there's my daily source code.

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You know, that would be excellent.

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That's that you're talking about change in iTunes.

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You're talking about change in a lot there.

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But it's just something to think about.

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So keep up the good work piece.

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Yeah, man, thank you.

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Now, the reason I played this rather geeky comment is multiple reasons.

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First of all, I want to point out that we do have an OPML important export feature.

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I don't know if it's working properly at this moment.

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The spec has changed.

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A lot of stuff has changed.

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Support probably waned a bit for it because very few people actually wanted.

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But I might as well say right off the bat and right now that the entire cheddar concept,

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not the editor per se and not the playout system.

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The idea of OPML and RSS feeds is completely modeled after what Dave Winner built.

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Of course, Dave Winner found RSS co-founder of RSS and definitely the founder of OPML.

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It is if you've looked at share my OPML and reading list,

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it is exactly this concept taken a bit further by being able to determine the output.

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And these are the things that as a user of the OPML editor,

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I was always looking for.

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It's like, okay, you know,

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and I just didn't know how to do it.

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Otherwise, you know, the platform is certainly open enough to hack around.

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But I'd like the idea of a reading list.

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But I wanted more control over the output because that then makes me a publisher,

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not just a collector with some, you know, standard based output of my feed.

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So I want people to be able to enjoy it.

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And I want to have some form of editorial control,

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which doesn't mean actually writing something.

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But determining what comes out of the feed,

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filter certain feeds,

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you know, really using it as an information router.

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So I might as well give Dave props right away before,

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there's some problem of who invented what.

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It doesn't matter.

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I just want to be able to,

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I want to be able to use this for myself.

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I want to be able to control what pictures,

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what MP3s,

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what shows, what goes onto my iPod.

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And, you know, with the channel,

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and if you go to Adam.podshow.com,

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you'll see that I already created an iPhone channel.

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Right now, there's only one show in there.

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It's a twit.

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And, of course, it's not, you know,

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it's displaying multiple episodes.

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So it hasn't been edited with cheddar yet.

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But when it is, boy, I'm telling you,

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I'm going to give you so much cool shit to listen to.

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And you're going to be given it back.

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Just do a search on your favorite word of the day

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for under channels at podshow.com.

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You'll see what I'm talking about.

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So you think, you know, your rock history, huh?

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Well, tell me this.

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Who was the original vocalist for ACBC?

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Wrong.

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It was Dave Evans.

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And Dave and his band,

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the bad asses,

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have a brand new CD out called Center.

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Dave, his management,

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and his record label,

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have given podshow radio the right

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to play five tracks

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off this incredible CD.

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And throughout the show,

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we'll learn more about this badass of rock and rose.

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Past and history.

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Starting Monday.

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Exclusively on podshowradio.com

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and podshowradio.potshow.com

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Jesus.

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With metal.

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Hey, Adam.

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It's Matt from Gamesweasel.

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Just so you know what's coming up on this week's show.

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We've got a review of Overlord on the Xbox 360.

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We're also reviewing Transformers, the game,

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on the very same console.

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We've got a scary preview of Silent Hill.

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And of course, you can win copies of

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Lost Planet Extreme Condition on the PC.

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For very exciting stuff,

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at gamesweasel.btpodshow.com

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Yeah, Adam.

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Keith from Vancouver BC.

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I failed compelled to send in the comment.

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Just finished listening to DSC632

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and had opening track was outstanding.

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I had a pretty good day today

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and when I heard that track had put me into

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an even better mood on the way to Ikido.

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When I got home,

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went straight to iTunes and bought it.

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The PMMemnet gets finest.

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PS.

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I wanted to do I'm not here to comment,

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but my wife is asleep beside me,

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so I did this up on my neck.

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Ciao for now.

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Red pill.

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Fulder.

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I didn't sound the half bad actually.

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That was pretty good.

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I did not sound half bad at all.

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I like that.

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If I came out of your Mac,

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dude, that's pretty, this got in a lot better.

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That speech since this.

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DSC632.

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So that was Valley Lodge hanging on.

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Yeah, fantastic track.

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I love those guys.

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They kind of like a Casey in the Sunshine Band

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upside down in backwards.

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So I'm going to launch into this whole thing

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about the BBC since I got so many great comments.

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People giving examples of how they were part of

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mainstream media deception.

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But before that, something I've got to play

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you from the Pod Safe Music Network.

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I believe Jersey Todd sent this into me

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as something to play on the Fubar Friday.

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You're going to love it because the kleptones

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know the revolution.

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It will be televised if you're a blue pill taker.

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Ladies and gentlemen, our future.

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You will choose to stay at home, brother.

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For you'll be able to do everything you need

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from your potato couch.

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You'll be able to don your virtual helmet

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and experience the revolution on 360

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degree around CGI.

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You may choose to view as manga

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or Hannah Barbera as the hair bear bunch

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because a revolution will be televised.

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The revolution will be brought to you

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by Apple Mac or PC World

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with Nokia and Motorola providing

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SMS updates.

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The revolution will show pictures of

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hopefuls, cueing overnight for the latest

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audition.

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The revolution will be sponsored by

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Gown, the cocky and camel collection.

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And it will storm me as you.

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You will play yourself or run pit playing

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you.

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Or you.

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Playing grind pit.

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Playing you.

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The revolution will be smoked.

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Snorled.

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Injected.

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Chased on vaporized.

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It will be recorded on mini-dv

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and kept in the puppet.

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The revolution will be digitized.

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Then transferred to all available formats.

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It will appear on your favorite CD

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as the bonus track.

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You'll be able to procure it cheap on VHS.

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Or pay a little bit more for the extra footage on DVD.

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Met a max will be available for the old school.

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Who are more good shooting comes you

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with the shelters and grips.

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The revolution will shoot from the hip hip hip hip.

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I used to say

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I...

462
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,120
I...

463
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,120
I used to...

464
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,120
The revolution will be scratched.

465
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,120
It will be spun back and suffered as a loop.

466
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,120
It will appear as the red button on your remote control.

467
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,120
The revolution will operate in a job share.

468
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,120
Or flexi time option.

469
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,120
It's so you can have it at your leisure.

470
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,120
Because the revolution will be ticked.

471
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,120
The revolution will be burned.

472
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,120
Highlight it in scent.

473
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,120
It will have its own awards ceremony.

474
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,120
With the biggest winners unable to attend.

475
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,120
Except for via live satellite link.

476
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,120
Because of their current revolutionary commitments.

477
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,120
The revolution will be a tick up in a storm.

478
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,120
Or a bottle in a message.

479
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,120
Or a door to a key.

480
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,120
The revolution will always come with fries.

481
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,120
Because the revolution will be televised.

482
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,120
The revolution will be hard, my brothers.

483
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,120
Because it will use via gra.

484
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Come a gra.

485
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,120
Arroll tight and hardening of the arteries.

486
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,120
In order to fill inside.

487
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,120
Rumbles happy meal box.

488
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,120
As the free gift.

489
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,120
The revolution will have a new twist.

490
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Sponsored by Levi.

491
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,120
With a sticker campaign written in an eligible graffiti style font.

492
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,120
Because the revolution will be advertised.

493
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,120
And paper view will have a whole new meaning, brothers.

494
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,120
The revolution will be available for gameboy this fall.

495
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,120
And Xbox and GameCube today.

496
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
The revolution will be televised.

497
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,120
We'll be televised.

498
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,120
We'll be televised brothers.

499
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,120
Because the revolution is alive.

500
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Yeah.

501
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,120
It's common sense.

502
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,120
We go have Yasi Claire.

503
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,120
Good bye.

504
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,120
It's real hip hop music from the Soya.

505
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,120
Yeah.

506
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,120
Say it.

507
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Yeah.

508
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,120
I know you're out there.

509
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,120
I can feel you now.

510
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,120
I know that you're afraid.

511
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,120
You're afraid of us.

512
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,120
You're afraid of change.

513
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,120
I don't know the future.

514
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,120
I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end.

515
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,120
They came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

516
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,120
I'm going to hang up this phone.

517
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,120
And then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see.

518
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,120
I'm going to show them more.

519
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,120
Without you.

520
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,120
A world without rules and controls.

521
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,120
Without borders or boundaries.

522
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,120
A world.

523
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,120
But anything is possible.

524
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,120
Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.

525
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:30,120
You may think it's a lot of old cockman, but that's your hangover.

526
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,120
You bastard.

527
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,120
Right.

528
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,120
Supercalipraginistic spirality doso.

529
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,120
Thank you, if you seem to have a son or a son.

530
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,120
If you don't say it, you'll have a success.

531
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,120
Supercalipraginistic spirality doso.

532
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,120
Remember that three years ago,

533
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,120
you had to return.

534
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,120
You spent your children.

535
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,120
You didn't want to tell me what's going to end.

536
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,120
Supercalipraginistic spirality doso.

537
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,120
Supercalipraginistic spirality doso.

538
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,120
Supercalipraginistic spirality doso.

539
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,120
Supercalipraginistic spirality doso.

540
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:19,120
No, of course that wasn't pod save.

541
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:26,960
No, it wasn't sending by Jersey Todd Kenneth for Burrach sent in a Gmail atom fastening shows again lately

542
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,440
concerning the TV deception stuff, maybe track 20 at the kleptones that I've humble

543
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,520
with all put that link in the show notes could be an interesting piece of music

544
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,520
a tie into the show.

545
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,000
No idea if it's really pod save, but they do offer it as a DM DRM free download, yeah.

546
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,760
No, I would guess that's not pod save, particularly with Michael Jackson's Ben track

547
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,760
on there.

548
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,920
No, no, don't think so, but the whole point is well taken, the revolution, if you see

549
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,680
the revolution televised, be very aware of my friends, you're in the blue pill revolution.

550
00:35:54,680 --> 00:36:01,240
If you see something else coming through the pipes, the series of tubes, then you know

551
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,000
it might be a real revolution.

552
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,960
But first we've got a dismantle this thing known as mainstream, not that it has

553
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,960
to go away.

554
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,720
We just have to show you what it is so you can recognize it and remember inherently

555
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:20,960
television makes use of lighting and sets and zooms and cuts and fades and all kinds

556
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:26,560
of things that you will understand much better if you take the TV, the Zen TV experiment.

557
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,160
I'll just have to post the link once again to it.

558
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,160
Let's check out the phone lines.

559
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Of course, we have a number of phone numbers for you to call in one in the United States

560
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:55,280
to New Jersey and one in London in the UK.

561
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,320
Hey, I'm Mr. John and Omaha, a great story on a BBC thing.

562
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,640
I've always been suspect, a government run communication.

563
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:10,200
Again, we're putting the media into the hands of a few.

564
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,920
I much rather have it in the free market where I can decide what I see is to or fact on

565
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,920
what somebody else.

566
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Tell me if that or at least try and show me that that might be to or fact or fall, so

567
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,680
I should say.

568
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Anyway, keep up the great work.

569
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:29,280
I would say that I'm a red pill and what you're doing with Potcho is that total free

570
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:35,400
marketization of the communication out there and getting this out of or into more people's

571
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,680
hands and out of the government control.

572
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:44,160
Again, that's my problem that I have with the BBC and also the FCC in the United States.

573
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,160
Thanks, bye.

574
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,520
Well, yes indeed.

575
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,480
I'm glad you're slipping down the red pillage there.

576
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,360
BBC is a little bit different though.

577
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,200
It's yes, government and yes, the government makes up a lot of the rules and there's

578
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,960
a board of governors and they're all tied into the government.

579
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,200
But the idea is, is philosophically really good, you know, it was like, hey, everyone

580
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:15,040
he pony up some bucks, I think it is like 136 pounds 50, so about $300 a year.

581
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:20,520
It's not insignificant, pony up some money and we'll make some great programming for you.

582
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:27,920
The problem is, of course, that it's really the problem is ratings, you know, well,

583
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,680
that's twofold ratings and availability of bandwidth.

584
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,160
Look, the BBC has, you know, three main channels, really two main channels.

585
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,160
BBC won BBC two.

586
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,160
There you go.

587
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,480
That for television.

588
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,880
Those can be seen by the entire population because it's distributed very widely, still

589
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,960
distributed through the air for free.

590
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,760
Well, sorry, not for free because of course you have to pay up if you have a television.

591
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,640
But there's only so much you can shove down those channels.

592
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,240
Yeah, they got the BBC three and four and digital channels, but you know, those audiences

593
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,680
are much more limited in scope.

594
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,200
So there's only so much you can put on.

595
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,680
So what do you want to put on?

596
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,360
Well, you want to put on the stuff that people like the most.

597
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,280
The only way we have to determine that is through ratings and it's the same ratings

598
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,960
that the commercial guys look at and, you know, the theory remains the same.

599
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,280
You know, you sure you may have an niche program that is great for a very small amount

600
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,880
of people who love it and are really happy and feel that that's worth the fee that they're

601
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,680
paying.

602
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,160
But probably it's not going to see the light of day because they have to, you know, all

603
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,840
this stuff has to be pushed through this very narrow piece of bandwidth, no, you know,

604
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,280
just two linear channels 24 hours a day.

605
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,440
So they have to make choices.

606
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:44,080
So it's never going to be your niche programming that you like, which is exactly why companies

607
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,920
like pod show exists to bring you that niche programming.

608
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,080
Do you know how many aviation programs I subscribe to when I listen to, there's only half

609
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,880
a million pilots in the United States.

610
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,120
It's really not that much, you know, so of course, you're not going to get tons of aviation

611
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,920
shows through that very narrow pipe, which is that linear, linear playout basis.

612
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,240
No, of course not.

613
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:15,080
And once we are able to really change advertising, show advertisers what they can do and

614
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,640
how much more rich the environment is instead of your 20 to 30 second in your face spot,

615
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,560
I think we're really going to have a lot of fun.

616
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:29,520
It may be a bit of, you know, pandemonium, but, uh, happy thought.

617
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,120
Hey, I understand John and Omaha, great story on that BBC thing.

618
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,120
I've always been suspect.

619
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:37,920
I'm sorry.

620
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,960
I didn't mean to do that.

621
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:40,720
Here's what I meant to do this one.

622
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,400
Hey, Adam, this is special event of the financially.

623
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:49,920
I guess that marking of a conflict was an idea of C7, you know, a great idea of how

624
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,800
television is deceased.

625
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,640
It'd be really cool.

626
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,480
I mean, you could such a video podcast, you know, I don't know if a person's a flop, but

627
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,480
whatever.

628
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,840
But, uh, take some clips of either stuff that you've done or stuff that, you know, you

629
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,960
production's your own part of and all steps through, uh, with the audience, okay, here's

630
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,960
where he did this.

631
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Okay, here's where the, uh, the satellite, think, uh, you know, kind of got fun.

632
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,560
Here's when we did this or here's how he did this.

633
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,920
And really show the man behind the curtain, show the map, how the magic tricks have

634
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,920
done.

635
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,840
I think it'd be instructive, you know, for someone who's been in media as long as you

636
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:30,040
have and on the broadcast media, so I just show all the tricks and, uh, and secrets

637
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,920
that are out there that broadcast media uses and expose them for what they are.

638
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,680
Uh, they've been really, really cool in a very second, a heck of a lot of fun too.

639
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,800
So hopefully we'll see that, uh, from the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the

640
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,800
hard show team.

641
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,800
The great, uh, I, I just got it.

642
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,440
Anyway, keep it for great work and, um, stand tuned to the DSC.

643
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,440
Yeah, man.

644
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,440
Absolutely.

645
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,240
And that's a great idea, Chris, and I, and I, and I will try to do that.

646
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:57,760
It's hard, though, to remember, I mean, this, it's been, my mainstream broadcast career

647
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,680
has been, uh, all deception, I guess, of, uh, of the public, you know, to, to, to varying

648
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,880
degrees, you know, not really, um, horrible.

649
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:15,000
I do remember distinctly though, I interviewed Madonna, um, in 1982 or 1983.

650
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:22,000
She was holed up at the, uh, uh, uh, what's the place that has the, the Skylight Bar, uh,

651
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,240
the La Mondrian when it was still, maybe it's still called La Mondrian on Sunset strip.

652
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:30,680
And this was when she, uh, the first time, no, it was the second time she was releasing

653
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,080
her album that had borderline on it, like a virgin.

654
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,320
She released that earlier in 81, um, and I'd met her very, very briefly at the Pirate

655
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,040
of Station at Amsterdam, that, but brief enough to do some hash under a glass.

656
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,040
She didn't, she didn't remember me.

657
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,040
That's for sure.

658
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,600
Um, and, uh, you know, we, uh, did the interview.

659
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,760
We conducted the interview on on the balcony overlooking Los Angeles.

660
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,400
And at one point, I can't remember, it's a long time ago.

661
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,080
I can't remember what I asked, but she didn't like the questions and said, this is stupid.

662
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,600
I'm not going to do this anymore.

663
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,800
And, you know, and she walked in, uh, back into the room.

664
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,680
She came out later to finish off, but it was like, uh, it was, she was so bitchy and so

665
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,680
mean.

666
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,680
And it was so weird that she did that.

667
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,240
Well, maybe that wasn't weird.

668
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,480
I can't remember what I asked, but something apparently offended.

669
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,600
But it's just through a little minor history fit, not a problem, right?

670
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,120
But when we put that interview on television, it was, of course, intercut with the pieces

671
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,400
of the video from like a virgin, and I think pieces of borderline.

672
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,200
And that entire piece was, you know, there were two edits.

673
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:33,880
Our director actually had made a fantastic edit where he really showed how pissy Madonna

674
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,880
looked.

675
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,880
I think for the time it was revolutionary, you know, and put that whole piece in and, and it

676
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,320
was, it was much more a representation of what had happened on the spot.

677
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,440
But management said, no, no, no, come on, man, she's a big star and people want to

678
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,440
love her.

679
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,280
And, you know, let's just make it into a happy piece.

680
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,560
And so, well, you know, it wasn't horrible.

681
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,560
I think it was wrong because it would have been so much more interesting to have seen,

682
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,240
you know, to have seen that side of her, particularly at that moment in her, uh, in her

683
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,440
career.

684
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,440
But it didn't happen.

685
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,160
I was, you know, it was changed, changed to fit whatever made sense for the ratings, I

686
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,160
guess.

687
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,600
In fact, literally, to make sense for whatever made sense for the ratings.

688
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:21,480
Hey, Adam, it's Jeff Sats, calling in from Florida, regarding your television deception

689
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,480
conversation.

690
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,360
Um, the kind of stuff you'd do with Janet Jackson is definitely standard operating procedure

691
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,880
for interviewing, especially when things are often done with a single camera.

692
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,360
Um, in the early 80s, pretty much my first job at a college, I produced a show called

693
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,720
Celebrity on cable television, Allison Spiel, the nightbird, was the host of this.

694
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,320
She was a terrific woman, a real character.

695
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,600
Got plenty of Allison Spiel stories for another time.

696
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,600
Um, excuse me.

697
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Anyway, we would cover all the movie premieres and the press junk that's going on in New York

698
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:58,160
and we'd have access to all the stars to interview them about the movies and we'd go

699
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,160
to the premieres.

700
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,600
So we always went with a single camera and we set up the interviews with a single camera,

701
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,600
shoot.

702
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,680
So we would shoot the interview east.

703
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,360
We tried to get over the shoulders, shot or two of Allison talking to them from the

704
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,360
office chair.

705
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,280
And then at a later time, sometimes right then in the area to the celebrity left, but sometimes

706
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,480
back in our offices at a later date, we would shoot out and asking the questions and then

707
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,240
it would all be edited together in the finished product, we'd look like Allison was sitting

708
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:29,120
there talking to the celebrity, standard practice, probably still standard practice today.

709
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,160
One time Allison was sick, she couldn't show up and we were supposed to interview Robin

710
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,160
Williams.

711
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,560
So I show up to the junkets and I tell Robin Williams, I show the picture of Allison Spiel and

712
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,440
I say, she's going to be the hostess, but she's not here, so I'm going to interview you,

713
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,840
but when it airs, it's going to be awesome interviewing you.

714
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,560
No problem with Robin Williams, it's a terrific guy in person, great to interview.

715
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,560
We went through the interview.

716
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,600
I asked all the questions, I was very careful not to let my voice overlap with his, so the

717
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,560
editors wouldn't have any problem.

718
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,040
We went our very way, at a later date, we shot Allison asking the questions, put it

719
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,280
all together and when the show aired, it looked like Allison Spiel was sitting in the

720
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,280
area in the room with Robin Williams, doing the interview, of course she wasn't there.

721
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,280
Standard practice happens all the time.

722
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,280
Thanks again.

723
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,800
Yo, man, thank you for sharing.

724
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:14,800
Oh, absolutely.

725
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,560
I definitely still happens all the time.

726
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,640
In fact, that's one of the parts I love about John Stewart's daily show, the most,

727
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,520
is where they, I'm sure you've seen the interviews, where they're interviewing someone

728
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,960
about some serious topic and then there's all kinds of bogus asked questions and then

729
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,960
stupid answers.

730
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,840
And if you look really closely, so for instance, Samantha B will be on camera over the

731
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,400
shoulder of the person who's being interviewed.

732
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,320
You'll see that that person's mouth is moving, you'll see their jaw moving or the side

733
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,480
of their, the side of their cheek and you'll see that it isn't in sync with what they're

734
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,480
actually saying.

735
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,880
Those things are completely cut together because you're right.

736
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,200
They go off with one camera, do the interview and then do what we call cutaways and

737
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,080
noties and the noties are really important.

738
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,440
When you have an interview with someone, the first thing that always happens, it's cut

739
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,440
down to length.

740
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,680
You know, it's like we got, that's how the sound bite came to and came into existence.

741
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:11,000
You know, hey, look, we've got one minute, so we're going to put this in, put this in,

742
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,880
we're going to do a cutaway here and now the cutaway, when they do an edit, that's what

743
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,040
they need that, that you'll watch it now, you'll see it on the news all the time, you'll

744
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,440
see the interviewer doing one of these, yeah, so, you know, very interested, like head

745
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:29,240
shaking up and down, yeah, yeah, and it's a talent, the worst thing, by the way, is to

746
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:35,400
interview someone and then after they're, you have to interview, you're saying, okay,

747
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,760
we need some cutaways, that means they have to sit there, the camera moves to over their

748
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,640
shoulder and you ask the exact same fucking questions again.

749
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,520
So it's like, it's not, it's completely removed from a natural dialogue and in your case,

750
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,640
wow, you showed a picture, this is what the first thing will look like in the finished product.

751
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,280
You created a little, little mini feature right there.

752
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,280
So is it deception?

753
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,880
Yeah, you know, it's, it's just good to understand how it works because it's exactly what

754
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:02,880
goes on.

755
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,320
And again, I really have stories where all the good shit was lost because of the stupid

756
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:13,720
system, the way this is supposed to work, I interviewed Paul McCartney at MPL, McCartney

757
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,560
publishing limited, in the same time around, you know, it wasn't, maybe even before I

758
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,960
interviewed Madonna in those very early 80 days when I still working in the Netherlands.

759
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:27,920
And so MPL and London, and I spilled tea all over his MPL rug, you know, the big McCartney

760
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,920
logo.

761
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,040
And, you know, and so there we are in our hands and knees trying to, you know, mop up this

762
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,800
tea, ding elevator opens, Linda walks in, she's on her hands and knees, completely

763
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,040
beautiful, beautiful television.

764
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:45,160
We had those stupid, vis-news guys that was like, you know, because of the unions, you

765
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,000
couldn't bring your own camera guy, you had to use someone, it was employed locally.

766
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,720
And so these like, these half dead guys for vis-news and, you know, you could rent them.

767
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:54,960
And a guy had turned a camera off.

768
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,160
He wasn't even, he was like, just sitting there looking like, oh, well, it spilled

769
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,160
tea.

770
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:03,800
Oh, that good stuff, all that good stuff, all lost.

771
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:11,560
Hi, Adam, this is Raymond from the Netherlands and I was watching some live TV a couple

772
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,760
of years ago, from the NOS, which is of course our Dutch public service, and it was

773
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,440
the interview with the Newt Lover, so then the Prime Minister or the Minister of

774
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:29,880
President, and, well, anyways, at the 8 o'clock news at that night, they changed the

775
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:35,080
live interview, they changed the order of the questions, and by doing that, they also

776
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:41,600
gave the impression that is a viewpoint on the matter and was, I don't remember exactly

777
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,760
what it was about, but it was really surprising that, by just changing a couple of questions,

778
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,840
you know, the order that they could change something like that, and it was very disappointing

779
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,000
because at that time I was thinking, well, the NOS, you know, national public television,

780
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,720
that's supposed to be truthful and all that kind of stuff, but there you go, it's just

781
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:00,720
vacant, for sure, all of them.

782
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:01,720
Bye.

783
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:05,160
Yeah, all part of the blue pill world that we live in, my friend, and it doesn't just happen

784
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,160
in television.

785
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:16,680
Yeah, I'm a totally different, I'm calling in about the DOE, what is it, the 637, and you

786
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:24,880
were asking about media, asked to call in about media, and if you were to show anything

787
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,440
where we were part of a deception, well, I can't say you did that, I was on a media show,

788
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:35,960
but I was at a sporting event, and at the time, I was a sports blogger, I wrote

789
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:42,600
stories on a local sports team here in Minnesota, and I knew the ownership were well,

790
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:49,280
and they had a contest going on, and they couldn't get anybody to participate in the

791
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:57,200
contest, I guess, I don't see why they couldn't get anybody, but they asked me, if I

792
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:05,920
would grab my kid, and participated in it, and we did, and we had fun doing it, but

793
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:12,920
I don't know if it was the other participant in it, was also from the media, from a local

794
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,920
newspaper.

795
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:20,600
So, we've heard in the beginning about it, but just got the media involved, and of course,

796
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:26,280
I wrote about it in my blog at the time, so sports teams do the same thing, and the

797
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,120
new people are a lot of friends are seeing, and they're the more excited, and I'm hoping

798
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:36,680
that they're going to be part of it, not the center, but the sports teams are doing

799
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,680
it as well.

800
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,680
Sure.

801
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,280
I've got to let you know that one thing, so I'd have a good day.

802
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,280
Yeah, man.

803
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,280
It's all a part of entertainment.

804
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,280
Oh, contest.

805
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,280
It's the worst.

806
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,280
Any type of contest.

807
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,280
You know why?

808
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,040
Because they want to have people who look good on camera, or excuse me, sound good on the

809
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,040
air.

810
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,040
Oh, man.

811
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,680
There's not a single phone call that I haven't played back on traditional radio, where

812
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,760
I wouldn't have cut out at least five or six different bits.

813
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:07,000
You know, digital recording and editing in on-air studios becomes such a big deal.

814
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,560
Because, you know, you get a contest winner.

815
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,320
Oh, man, I've heard this shocky's go, you know, you just won $100, and it didn't take

816
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,440
it to see the Rolling Stones, and the person would go, oh, cool.

817
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,840
And then the disc shocker say, oh, hold on, man.

818
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,840
I'm recording this.

819
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,560
I want you to sound really excited, and I'll ask the question again, you'll just say,

820
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,160
you just won $100, and then take it to the Rolling Stones, and of course, the person

821
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,800
goes, woo, woo, woo.

822
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,800
It's all fake.

823
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,680
They weren't excited, and for the length of fuck, I already had, you know, Rolling Stones

824
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,840
who cares, don't know, no matter anymore.

825
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,320
Of course, of all the feedback I've received, not everybody agrees.

826
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,920
I had a minute to roll it from the Don't Compass podcast.

827
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:50,160
Just listening to your daily source code, six, three, seven, yes, today's one about the BBC,

828
00:52:50,160 --> 00:53:01,080
and the way that TV has accepted the masses, and to be honest, I mean, I've worked for

829
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:09,280
the BBC for crying out loud, and so it's not as bad as you'd quite think.

830
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:15,880
I mean, this kind of thing isn't going to bring down the British Broadcasting Corporation,

831
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,120
I can tell you that for a kick-off.

832
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:27,040
The Director General is, as so rightly, cancelled all these things for a huge review, and, you

833
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:33,720
know, things will get put into place, the deception is no longer there, you know, it's

834
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:40,760
a really important thing that, to be able to see a doing, not just in trying to sort

835
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:46,920
this problem out, but of the content that they give, and they're reviewing over a million

836
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,920
hours of footage to see if there's any other incidents like this.

837
00:53:51,920 --> 00:54:02,240
There's going to be the people in question of all being suspended or dismissed, and, yeah,

838
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:13,360
it's going to be interesting times, but the BBC do absolutely fantastic job, and you'll

839
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:20,360
comment about Britain, the company down, the corporation down, I feel, is a long one,

840
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:26,600
it's not, it's the trust will come back, the trust of the public will come back to the

841
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,600
BBC, I am convinced of that.

842
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:34,800
Oh, Adam, I just thought I'd throw my tuppins into the pond, take it easy, by now.

843
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,440
Oh, dude, your tuppins is more than appreciated, please, open wide, I'm going to shove a

844
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,440
red pill down your throat because you really need one.

845
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:49,080
Maybe I should explain what I mean by their coming down, they're going down.

846
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:57,880
Let's just understand that the nature of media has become, but I think always has been

847
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:06,720
about audience size, getting more people to tune in, stop by, pick it up, read it, surf

848
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:13,160
to download, it's about more and more people, it's always been about that.

849
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:18,200
The problem is, before we could actually, before we actually understood the beast, and of

850
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,240
course we understand how television works were getting pretty good out of ourselves, just

851
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:28,320
go to YouTube or look at any of the pod show video shows, you know, we understand how to

852
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,360
make this media, it's not all that hard, you know, it's now we have all those tools,

853
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:38,640
it's about the distribution, and this distribution, of course, has been extremely interesting

854
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,040
to people of power, people, and that's not just politicians, it's also people have something

855
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:51,320
to sell, you know, big consumer goods companies, and they've been able to, the whole,

856
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:56,600
the whole architecture is based upon, again, you know, the most people, it's the sureest

857
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:01,360
way to get your message out, the more people you are able to reach.

858
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,800
There's no real targeting going on yet, yeah, there's some, you know, of course there's

859
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,520
niche channels, and, you know, what's happening now with independent media is there's tons

860
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:16,040
of niche stuff around, it's my, I see my job is to enable that to continue by being able

861
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:21,600
to monetize on it, you can't do shit for free forever, just doesn't work that way,

862
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:28,000
however, there's no real malice, I do not believe in a grand master plan, there's no

863
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,520
master plan that says let's deceive the public, you know, people who get up in the morning

864
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,080
and go to work for television aren't thinking about that, but they are thinking one thing,

865
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:41,560
we've got to entertain, we've got to get the ratings, we've got to get as many people

866
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:47,520
watching or listening or reading or downloading or surfing to or page viewing, that's

867
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:53,120
just the nature of it, because that's how you make a sustainable business, of course

868
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,280
there's a lot of people who don't have to do this at all, and you can continue doing

869
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:02,320
independent stuff, but if you want to grow, you need money, it's just a fact, I can't help

870
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:15,120
it, I can't get around it, so the flow of media, the way it from where I see it is,

871
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:20,000
and I think probably associated press is one of the biggest problems, you have these

872
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:28,800
huge indicators of so-called news, and what distinguishes news and how it's reported and

873
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:34,400
how factual it is doesn't matter after it's first introduced, because and you can follow

874
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:41,680
this, every other single media property will quote that so-called reliable source, and then

875
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:46,400
other people will quote that source that's quoting the reliable source, it's the copy-paced

876
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:52,800
culture, because this problem is not just in television, it's not just in radio, it's in print,

877
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,280
it's in newspapers, we need viewers, we need people to be interested, so what are the stories,

878
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,520
people are interested in, well they're interested in crap, they're interested in Britney Spears,

879
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:08,480
yes we're also interested in Iraq and Afghanistan and North Korea, but if you're going to

880
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,840
present it in a boring way, we're just not going to watch it because we want to be spoon fed

881
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,600
like all the other stuff, why all of a sudden do I have to work extra hard to understand

882
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,920
what's going on on the news, no, that's what people wake up in the morning to do and they don't

883
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,240
really even realize it, they're all blue pillars, it's okay and they're just doing what they love

884
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:29,600
doing, they like creating media and having lots of people pay attention to it, that's that's the only

885
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:37,680
job, so you can't really fault anyone, however what I predict is going to happen, I think you're right

886
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:44,800
is yes the trust will come back and yes the BBC will implement all kinds of editorial controls

887
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,720
and all kinds of gates to make sure that you know the stuff that gets on the air or on the

888
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:56,320
website or on television or whatever that it's accurate and that it's correct and guess what,

889
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:03,680
it's going to be boring, it's going to be incredibly fucking boring, that's our chance

890
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:12,400
because I do believe because we don't have this limitation of time that we can make things

891
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:20,560
interesting to a large audience and that audience can be a long tale of many many niche audiences

892
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,360
and we can do it in an entertaining way, look, you know, I didn't have to stop after 30 minutes of

893
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,600
this podcast because I didn't have to, you didn't have to listen to it either, you could just

894
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,640
fast forward to the bits you wanted to or skip over pieces, there's your core difference, that's

895
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:41,200
where we win because people will migrate, they'll migrate to the things they want to hear,

896
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,560
the things that are interesting to them and it could be very, very niche but we're going to win

897
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:52,960
when the BBC and other mainstream media have so many regulations and so much porn on top of them

898
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:59,360
that they'll just be boring because that will also bring upon a huge financial problem because

899
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,600
all of these phone lines, all of these scams that were in place and make no mistake, they're scams,

900
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:10,400
oh yeah, I think I'm going to get a text back from that really cute chick, I don't get one

901
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,720
text back from a cute chick, I get three a week, I'm automatically subscribed, these are scams,

902
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,560
complete scams, just a rob people of money, you know, of course people are gullible but they're

903
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,080
waking up to that now, that's the whole other side of this and this is going to happen in the

904
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:30,560
United States as well and you're going to see that television, particularly television, has been

905
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:39,280
subsidizing their mere existence through these phone scams and they'll have to go back to very

906
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:45,680
boring, very simple programming. Hi Adam, this is Alex from podcastjunkie.co.uk,

907
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loved your DSC 637, I've come up with a letter to the BBC that I've posted at my blog and it

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goes something like this, do a BBC, has I've been paying you in good faith for honest television

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programming to principally sum of £135.50 a year and there's obviously you've been cheating

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lying to me and to millions of people, what do you say I'll skip paying you for the next year?

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After all you haven't been providing me with the service I would expect, have you? You've lied

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and you've cheated, you've been given a year to clean up your act, however as you've been lying

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and cheating for years, I really don't think that me with holding only one year's license fee could

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be considered illegal, do you? Thanks for the great show's Adam and regards to you and all your

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listeners, massive red pill. Yeah, there's one thing I hadn't even thought about in the

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midst of all of this, but John points it out very well. Hi Adam, he's John, long time listener,

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the BBC, a public service broadcaster, paid for by the license fee, by license fee,

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he read out seven instances where they confess now to break in the rules again.

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They were recently signed £50,000, so the bleep teacher isn't aware they did the same thing,

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presumably there's another seven now, are they going to be signed at £50,000?

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In the room, $60,000, it's mine, they're like the rules, they get signed, they pay with my money!

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Want to load a shit? Thanks Adam. Dude, you're so spot on, I hadn't even thought about that,

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the 50,000, it's your money, it's my money, where's it going to? It's going to the government,

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that is, you're so right, man, that is so incredibly wrong, the penalties have to be completely

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overhauled, good point and a good, good, good point in the show to wrap it up with one last song,

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which is from the pod save music network authorized by Alice Cooper himself.

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[ Music ]

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Only when I'm bleeding

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Only when I'm bleeding

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It's got to be one of my favorite Alice Cooper tracks of all time

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All time

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All to you pot safe

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By Wednesday

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Only when I'm bleeding

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Fully sanctioned by Alice Cooper

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To put it on the pot safe music network

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So another cool for the networking

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What an awesome song

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Definitely

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Another piece of the puzzle

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To the soundtrack of my life

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That I love to share with you

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Daily source go dot com

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Adam at podshow.com

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For your feedback

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I'll talk to you guys tomorrow

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Bye bye now

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Stick it in your ear