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I'd like to think of a sign to this journey.

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I'm just taking this out of the curry.

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Delta.

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This has got to be the best Christmas song ever.

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Do you remember that in down the Christmas tree?

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I'm gonna be the world.

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I'm gonna be the world.

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It's not gonna be too busy now.

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Greatest Christmas song of all time on the Charlie.

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American Heartbreak of Parts.

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Son of Love.

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Everybody how you doing?

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Daily source code.

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This is the new version of, of Potcha.

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It's not, it's not the site.

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Does that make any sense?

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that neither Patricia or Christina.

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And then, you know, oh, sorry.

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Different continent.

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Not going to work out.

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I, I hate that out of everything.

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That's why I usually say no.

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I'm getting pretty close to saying yes to the plugcast.

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for me to go on the show.

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Yeah, I'm super excited about it.

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You know, it's interesting about him.

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Nothing.

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What?

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Well, you tell me he's an asshole for me.

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No, from what he needs to.

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Like, he gives a shit.

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Well, I love a lot of people.

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people care what he has to say.

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I'm interviewing him.

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Wait, wait a minute.

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Sounds like he's a she who needs to interview me.

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Well, if I'd known that.

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It's just me.

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Maybe I just don't give a shit.

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I don't think you're an asshole.

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I'm Korean.

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I do give a shit.

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Show some holiday spirit, Adam.

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Through a shameless plugcast interview.

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It's a doll that keeps dropping like that.

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I probably will have to.

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If you want to stay with it and stay your cool guy,

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you should go.

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You're so right, though.

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Yeah, do something with the young guys.

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And that will keep you young.

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An example of some questions in my experience.

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Do your hobbies are drinking, smoking weed,

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and all types of ill shit.

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I like it very much.

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Just kidding, Adam.

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I'll be rain for your call.

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We still does that.

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And now you want to give me the freak out.

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Who is the plugcast?

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Is it Zach?

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Is it who sent this?

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Or is it who's the girl?

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And who's the guy who wants to tell me I'm an asshole?

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I don't know.

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I'm confused.

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So many mixed singles.

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Now I don't know what to do.

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Ah, please help me make this terribly tough decision.

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Hey, this came in a couple days ago.

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It kind of got stuck in a pile of doo-doo in Gmail.

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But my sister checks in from from the hills of Florence.

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Italy.

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And as you know, she's a Nokia fiend like myself.

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She, uh, she too has the E61 eye.

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And, uh, she really uses this thing.

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She uses the VoIP, uh, I think the Gizmo client.

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No, wait a minute.

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She uses, um, eeeeee.

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Why am I forgetting?

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Uh, I don't know.

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She uses one of those VoIP clients that kind of integrates with the, with the phone book.

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And, and when we're on vacation on, uh, uh, fire island.

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Is it fire island?

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Can you remember?

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August.

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We were in, uh, an island somewhere in New York.

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I think it was fire island.

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Um, I saw her use it consistently on the Wi-Fi in the house that we'd rented.

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So you're going to love this story.

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Hi, Adam.

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Sister calling in from Florence, Italy.

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Um, I just finished listening to your Fuber Friday.

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And actually was very, very fortunate that I was able to do so on my E61 eye.

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Um, this is all, I mean, theme with, uh, your listener who was asking about the, uh,

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what was it the N95 or the iPhone.

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And he wanted to have more information.

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Well, I've got to tell him and, and, and everybody, you want an okay.

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If you're any, if you're anything like me, you want an okay.

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And I just had another experience that just confirmed that, um, last night, I was

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And, uh, some listener called in and I was just, uh,

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I wanted to pump up the volume a bit because I couldn't hear so well.

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Uh, because I don't wait the, uh, the headphones.

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Well, because, uh, I didn't forgot to mention I was in the tub.

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And so you can feel where this is going.

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I just got a visual.

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I really didn't need to have realo.

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So I picked up the phone and it slipped and it went to the tub.

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And I also found out why the bathtub is worse than the toilet.

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Because if you have a bowl bath, like I do, you can't find it better.

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Oh, let me tell you.

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It wasn't easy for me to find my iPhone when it slipped into the toilet,

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pre-flush either.

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Okay.

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So, you know, and, and, and there was also obstruction going on.

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Find the phone.

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Anyway, so I lost a few extra precious seconds there with my Nokia in the water.

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But, uh, I finally found it.

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I did the usual blow drying thing, opened it up.

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You know, all that's good stuff that you can't do with an iPhone.

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Take the battery out.

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Take the battery out.

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I'm the radiator in the morning and I work like a charm.

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So I just wanted to share this wonderful experience and, uh, Nokia.

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That's it.

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Have a nice day.

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Bye.

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I don't know.

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Wait, yo.

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Yo.

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Well, I feel really bad, but I'm, of course, extremely happy that it came back to life.

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Uh, your connection didn't sound all about hot though.

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Were you called?

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Were you actually calling on the E61?

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Because it sounded a little bit muddled.

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It sounded like there was some bubbles still left in there.

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Oh, man, that's such a horrible feeling when that happens.

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Oh, that sucks so bad.

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But it is true.

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You know, you, you open that sucker up.

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You rip the battery out.

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You start drying it.

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It'll just come back to life like magic.

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And I really do love it.

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They candy man, dude.

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You should be hookin' my sister up.

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Listen, that commercial.

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Well, hey, hey.

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By the way, she did not end with the obligatory.

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I love you.

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Yeah, that's a little bit disappointing.

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Hey, Adam.

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This is Zach from Vegas and fuck you, Adam Curry.com.

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I'm listening to episode 695 right now.

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And there's a guy Eric from Portland who sent in a message saying that he was tired of everybody

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saying fuck you, Adam Curry at the end of their message.

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And that he wants everybody to say, I love you, Adam Curry.

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And you agreed?

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Well, I got to tell you something.

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Yeah.

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I agree with him too.

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I'm getting tired of saying fuck you, Adam.

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I didn't like it to begin with.

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It, that maybe that's why I was angry.

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Because everybody kept saying fuck you.

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And I knew deep down inside that I really did love you, Adam.

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You're the first man crushed I've ever had.

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I just, I don't know what I would do without you.

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Oh, baby.

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And all those times that you've been driven out of me that I missed the daily source code.

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I'd take it out on everybody else.

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Oh, no.

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Small animals.

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For everyone.

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My parents, my girlfriend.

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Everybody and anything I could possibly think of.

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So Adam, I didn't mean to hurt you.

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It's okay, man.

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I really do love you, Adam.

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I know, I love you.

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I really do.

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Oh, my God.

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Okay.

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I'm in my car.

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Calm down.

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Oh, I'm down.

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Okay.

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I got to get us together.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I'm getting rid of fuck you, Adam, peri.com.

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Oh.

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And I'm going to start the, I love you, Adam, peri.

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Good.

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I really love you, Adam.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Oh, God.

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I can't see.

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Okay.

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All right, Adam.

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I love you.

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I love you so much.

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If you ever get divorced from Patricia, I will,

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I will, I'll move to England.

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You'll be my best.

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I'll marry you.

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We'll have lots of gay happiness.

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Love you.

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Okay.

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I love you, Adam.

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I love you, too.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Hey, very good job.

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The Academy Award winner.

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No doubt about it.

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I gotta tell you.

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I feel a lot better now that we've changed it all around.

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And you guys seem to be having fun with it.

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And it really has changed the comments once again.

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You know, I do this just to see the results and, you know,

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Vulcan mind trickery.

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And it's amazing.

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Uh, once I think we've now taken the quality of the comments,

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yet up one more level.

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You can just hit the, the old Gmail box here.

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Let me see it.

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We've got, uh,

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This was a nice one.

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Uh, from Susie Tyler.

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Carmen Tyler's mom.

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And she has some suggestions on how I can stay in sync with two different

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time zones by setting two different clocks.

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Yeah, I don't really have a problem with that.

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It's other people who have a problem with keeping track of my time zone.

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Maybe I should have, uh,

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and maybe I should, that should be my status message on my I am, you know,

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I am in the San Francisco time zone.

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Maybe some of you are,

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I've been in the San Francisco time zone.

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And, um,

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And uh, Susie ends up here.

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You don't have to end up having your TV on,

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uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

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uh, uh, don't you just love having someone trying to mother you,

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is what she says to me.

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It could be worse.

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I could be mother and lawing you.

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Hmm.

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I don't think that's worse.

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As you know, that would mean I would be tasting the sweet nectar of your

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lovely daughter.

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Uh, uh, take that visual.

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visual. Um, let me see. Man, what did you guys send me? Is anything good? I'm sorry for

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I, you know, I do this and then I realize that I'm actually not saying anything. Oh,

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here's something about I've been looking for Iranians to get on the show. This is a good one.

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Billy Waters. Adam, uh, I know some Iranians who fled Iran and now live in my country.

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Iranians are gregarious, jolly, normal, noisy, pushy, nosy, just like everyone else everywhere

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in the world. I was knocked flat by their openness and they have, uh, and they have some lunatics,

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though, who mix religion with politics running the country. If you want, I can get you the number of

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one who I'm sure would be willing to talk to you. I also know a guy who recently cycled the

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bike from Ireland to China through Iran and it's only worry was being fed to death. He might be

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wanting to talk to. Let me know if you want to hook up. Yeah, um, can you get me a female Iranian,

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please? About a 5.10. Yeah, man, absolutely. Uh, I'd love to. That's what I asked for. I'd love

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to speak to someone who's from, I'd love to speak to actually someone who's in Iran. They can make

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phone calls, can't they? I mean, they've got, they have GSM technology. Can they call, can they call

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the United States? Or can they call certainly they can call the United Kingdom? I mean,

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I can't imagine that that country is completely isolated. I know they have internet. I know

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they have bloggers. I know this. Gosh, so it's this one girl I met in Khan and, and I've forgotten

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her name. I can't, um, I gotta find out who she was. She was the personal secretary of some

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advertising agency Bigwig and she was from Iran and we were talking for like an hour and, uh,

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she was telling me all this stuff about how young people are, you know, how metropolitan it is and

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how they, how they, how they're into, I mean, she gave me some, uh, some blogs to, uh, I, I, I have

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the piece of paper with a blog to look at or I had it. I don't have it anymore. I don't, I don't

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remember her name. Uh, it's driving me crazy, but I know she could make a hook up. Shit, she would have been

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great. Let's just try and find that. Hey, this is, uh, you know, going on to the, uh, the

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Eisenhower quote that got a lot of response, uh, from the other day about the military industrial

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complex, uh, Dave from New York said that you should check this quote out. I looked for an audio

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version of it. Couldn't find it. I probably looked about 15, 20 minutes. So, and there was nothing,

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uh, no video either, but I'll just read it to you. This is from 1954, uh, President Dwight D. Eisenhower

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should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment, uh, unemployment

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insurance, shit. Let me start again because I want to sound presidential. Should any political

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party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm

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programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny

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splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil

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millionaires and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible

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and they are stupid. How about their apples? This guy Dwight, you know, there must be a book about

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Dwight Eisenhower. I don't think I've ever read a book about him. I know apparently extremely

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little about the man, but I'm in very impressed. He's like the Nostradamus of America. And he's

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been predicting shit that is coming true in my lifetime. We cannot remain ignorant to this.

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We cannot. I asked for a little more in depth explanation of Ron Paul stance on property rights

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that has a few people, not quite up in arms, but disappointed or confused. And we've got a response.

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Adam, Andy here from Portland, we're going to respond to your question about the proper

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rights issue. If you guys are on ball, there's campaign and saying he's a strict whatever

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interpretation. Constitution. Constitution of the Constitution. And the problem I have with it is simply

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that it's an over-stimplification. If that can be possible. I know that the Constitution is

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mainly focused on property rights. Yeah, I think that Dwight Eisenhower also said, keep it simple

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stupid. That was him, wasn't it? I know that the Constitution is mainly focused on property rights.

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It's a very short document. It's very short. Yes. And I think that easy to remember.

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Society, we have going on here. There's a bit more context than that. And I feel like the

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government, the federal government and the state government's roles in our lives is to support us

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and protect us. Do protect us? To look out for us, to support us is not quite the right

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phraseology. And help us out. We pay them. They should do what we want. And anyway,

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it's a more complicated issue. I think they're just a strict property rights interpretation to

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me have there. And that's about to get. Thanks for including me in your conversation.

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I really enjoy your show. So, all right. Okay. So, that actually didn't tell me anything.

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I don't understand the issue. I maybe I got the wrong, maybe I got the wrong comment. Am I just an

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idiot? Oh, I'm on a second. Well, please don't answer that. Okay.

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No, crap. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's gone wrong. I heard a couple other people

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try and call in and explain it. I think it has to do with the government taking your land.

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You have to understand at this point in time, you do not own the land that your house stands on.

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No where except, hmmm. Was I going to say Texas again? I think it's Texas.

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I'll have to go back and look at the constitution lessons that I posted on curry.com. I don't know

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a couple months ago. You'll learn all about it there. Your car is not yours. It belongs to the

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government. Okay. You do not hold the title to your car. You have a certificate of title.

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You do not own the land that your house stands on. The government owns it. That's why they tax

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you on it for using it. That in itself is unconstitutional. Anya.

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This is a beautiful comment that came in. Hey Adam, touch here. Just got done listening to DSE

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six nine six and just a few comments with the pizza hut and Burger King being on the military

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Yeah, so this is part of my my thoughts about the military industrial complex and how

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our tax dollars for the war against terror are being fed into mainly corporate America.

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And that's where all this money is going. It's not just to put our boys and girls into the

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sand to throw hot lead back and forth with an unknown enemy. Now it's to pump up revenues of these

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companies by giving them business. And so yeah, Burger King Pizza Hut right there in Bosnia and Iraq

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feeding our troops. I was in the army for 12 years and okay first of all. Thank you for your service.

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And I don't mean that like those bullshit politicians when they say it on sea span. I really

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fucking mean it. A lot of the fuel for you know you've been in the field two weeks and Burger King

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and Pizza Hut. That's a fucking taste at home. Okay, yeah, you know, but if it was a look, if it was

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apple pie, dude, that's shit'll kill you. That's more dangerous than terror itself. So I understand.

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I really do understand. But you know, sure, you know, there has to be a limit to this.

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Maybe only one or the other. It doesn't have to be both, you know. That's that's my point.

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War is ugly. And a war zone is ugly. And it just goes beyond the imagination as to what's

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being put into this war. You know, so much money is being spent on so many things.

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Ah, it's too late in the week for me to get into this. All right, I'm sorry. Oh, food.

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And well, oh, yeah, there's a song I think you should play on the DSC by a band called Valorant,

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or Valorant, whichever way you pronounce it. It's spelled V-A-L-E-R-I-A-M and it's children of the

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menicide deals with what you're talking about about corporations taking over our world, our mind,

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everything. And just a suggestion on the Ron Paul thing. Every site I go to, whether if you see

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N-N-N-N-B-C-A-B-C-Fox, Google, Yahoo, I search for Ron Paul. Now, just think if you had all 100,000 people

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always searching for that, it would go to the top of the search end, maybe get a little publicity.

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Anyway, that's just my two cents. And, uh, oh yeah, fuck, no, of, whatever. Yeah.

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All right, man. Thanks for the search engine optimization tip. That helps.

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Sounds pretty good. I haven't actually listened to it, but I'll just take your recommendation

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because you have done your service, my friend. Valorant, I guess. Children of the men's side.

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[ Music ]

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We're the children of the men's side.

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We're the children of the men's side.

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Yeah, okay, so let's not say we don't learn anything here on the Chuck.

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Menticide, the undermining or destruction of a person's mind or will, especially by systematic

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means, such as mental and physical torture, extensive interrogation, suggestion, training

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and narcotics or brainwashing.

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Menticide.

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I like it.

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By the way, that sounds like an episode of the Daily Source Code, doesn't it?

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Menticide.

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Good word.

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I'm going to be using that one a lot.

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Welcome to the Menticide.

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Welcome to the Menticide.

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Hmm.

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Yeah, sounds good.

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Nice.

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Let me see another beautiful email.

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Peter Grace, Adam, your show's six nine or five was one of the finest shows I've heard

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you do.

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Man, thank you so much.

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I gotta tell you, when someone says that to me, that means a lot.

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A comment, though, on boycotting or striking out against the military industrial complex,

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probably more accurately called the military industrial financial managed healthcare complex.

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Welcome to the Menticide.

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Most of us are wage slaves.

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I have a family, two mortgages, no hope for my future, but hope for my kids.

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I'll encourage my kids to make a difference, but becoming homeless doesn't work towards

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that.

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I hope to make a difference by investing and voting.

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I'm voting Ron Paul and I encourage others to do it, too.

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I've put a lawn sign for Ron Paul on my lawn in addition to donating to his campaign.

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Be well.

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Peter, first of all, thank you again for the kind words.

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Second of all, here's my philosophy.

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You're never in trouble if you're out of money.

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You're only in trouble if you're out of ideas, because this is the country of ideas.

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00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:24,520
I understand, I understand, you know, your situation is fucked up, food barred for sure.

491
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,200
But I do have some ideas.

492
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:33,240
In fact, I have a really, really good idea how we can get ourselves, how we can break

493
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,640
free from the Menticide.

494
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,120
Oh God, I love this word.

495
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,520
I'll only play this one other comment, which plays right into this, and then I'll give

496
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,760
you my idea, which came to me late this afternoon at the office, while I was a perusing

497
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,160
a suggestion to look at something on the web.

498
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,160
Listen to this first.

499
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,160
Adam Gary, Chris Keller, I'm a town band of Ania.

500
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,200
I have a little story for you, so it'll metaphor or whatever you want to call it.

501
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,200
There's a bank robbery.

502
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,560
The robber said, all right, everybody put their hands up.

503
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,320
One of the host you said, let's bum muslim, he can't get us all.

504
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:13,160
You're the one to why no one does anything, or there's a reason no one does anything.

505
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,800
So, right, he can't get you all, he's got limited bullets, he's got limited time,

506
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,280
he's got limited motion.

507
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:25,080
But he's going to shoot, so he's going to get some of you.

508
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:30,480
And there's no way to tell who it is, he's going to get, so no one moves, because no one

509
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,280
wants to be one of the ones that get it.

510
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,160
That's why you're a suggestion of striking just can't work.

511
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,160
It's not going to work.

512
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,360
I mean, you're relatively self-sufficient, you've probably gotten up money and savings

513
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,440
to survive, even with a meagre visits to the rest of your life without work.

514
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,920
Most of us don't.

515
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,280
Most of us are a one or two months away from total poverty, from total, you know, bankruptcy

516
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,320
and debt and not being able to pay our bills.

517
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,320
We can't just strike.

518
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440
That means losing our income, losing our income means losing our lives like that.

519
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,440
So, how do you do it?

520
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:08,640
Well, the only way to do it, the only way to make it work is if everybody does it simultaneously

521
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,440
all once, all together.

522
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,480
If you need to do that, no matter what everybody, I mean, the whole country, I mean,

523
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,760
another country to demand a decision.

524
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,480
I think even 10% of the United States population will be enough to have dramatic effects

525
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,480
on Washington.

526
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,480
I mean, if 30 million people stood up and said, no, what are they going to do?

527
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Ignore them?

528
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,120
If 30 million people, you don't ignore 30 million people.

529
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,240
But how do you organize?

530
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:40,360
How do you motivate and how you orchestrate the actions of 30 million people?

531
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,360
That's the problem.

532
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,520
That's where they have us by the balls.

533
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,360
Because the power of dollars, even if it took away all of our freedoms, the power of

534
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,400
dollars, 255 million people versus how many military.

535
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,120
I mean, short of nookiness is nothing they can do to stop us.

536
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,560
But all they have to do is cause us to stop ourselves.

537
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,760
So think about that.

538
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,400
It's not about standing up and saying, no, it's about how to get enough people to stand

539
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,840
up and say, no, simultaneously, in the unison, that's the problem.

540
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,000
How do you organize that many people?

541
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,640
Just don't think about, fuck you, Adam Gary.

542
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,200
OK, I'll let you slide for that one.

543
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,880
OK, so I'm listening to this at the office.

544
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,480
And then the female comes in from a raw, uh,

545
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,920
crotatual thing.

546
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,120
Adam, love the show.

547
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,120
This short video is great.

548
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,320
I think we would end up generates an interest with your listeners, uh,

549
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,760
which he found by a Boeing Boeing, and I will put that link in the show notes.

550
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,960
But you're going to be able to remember this one because it's a website that you can find

551
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,800
at storyofstuff.com.

552
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,320
And it is literally, um, the story of stuff.

553
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,680
Well, I'm like, one of my jacks is host.

554
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,560
Come on, bitch.

555
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,560
OK.

556
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,400
So let me, uh, since, um, since this is audio, I'm going to,

557
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,960
I'm going to play a piece from this for you.

558
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,840
It's kind of, it's like a widescreen kind of format.

559
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,280
There's a woman who, of course, I forgot in her name.

560
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,440
And that actually is quite important.

561
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,040
But she's kind of a superimposed over, uh, one, two, three,

562
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,560
over five, five drawings in the background.

563
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,680
And so it's five chapters of the story of stuff.

564
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,760
And it's, uh, it's not really that short.

565
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,120
It's quite long, actually.

566
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,960
Uh, but the, the five stories, the five chapters are extraction, production,

567
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,200
distribution, consumption, and disposal.

568
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,840
And then, of course, she has an alternative way.

569
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,720
And this is really about how we're raping the earth,

570
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:40,000
to manufacture, shit, create toxins, the toxins,

571
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,720
go into all the products that we make, um,

572
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:47,040
the products are designed to, to not last long, or it's a throwaway

573
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,600
products. You know, we have a throwaway culture.

574
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,960
And then, of course, this stuff, uh, only a small percentage,

575
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,840
is actually recycled, you know, all of this, uh, you know,

576
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,120
we're killing the earth. That's what this is.

577
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,200
You want, you understand that when you see it,

578
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,240
you'll say, I understand the story, but you should actually sit through it and watch it,

579
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,320
because, um, it's a good story.

580
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,040
It's good to be reminded and, uh, particularly, um, when she talks about

581
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,720
government and big business.

582
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,280
And the cartoons are kind of funny and very illustrative.

583
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,560
I'm sure my daughter's going to watch.

584
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,720
I hope so. I'll, uh, if I recommend it to her, she'll never watch it.

585
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:23,040
I'll try and get her one of her friends to recommend it to her, um,

586
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,120
but there's a piece in the middle that, and it just, it like hit me,

587
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:34,560
like, whoa, I have the solution to how we can actually create a positive,

588
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:43,280
a positive show of force to demonstrate against the, let's just call the

589
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,240
industrial complex, because it's not just military, big part of it, by the way.

590
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,200
But we can actually, we have, we've had the control that our fingertips for years,

591
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,720
and we haven't even understood that we have the power.

592
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:02,320
And to enforce this power, actually, enriches our lives,

593
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,960
literally, and riches our lives.

594
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,640
If you take it in one literal sense, there's a couple of them.

595
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,040
So I just want to play this one part called consumption.

596
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,760
And I think you can drop into the middle of the story.

597
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,840
So right now, you see, there's this, uh, we've gone from, uh,

598
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,200
extraction of raw materials from the earth, of course, in their world countries.

599
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,720
Into production, we create toxins, we blow toxins into the air, everyone's toxic, we're all going to die.

600
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,760
Then it goes over to distribution, you know, Walmart, Apple, Microsoft, uh, yeah,

601
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,760
hardware, um,

602
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:50,880
came out, no, Walmart, um, you know, the Sears, uh, radio shack, whatever, big distribution, consumer goods.

603
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:51,920
Thank you.

604
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,000
Then it goes into trash, I take, you know, trash out, and then how we get rid of trash, and

605
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,640
and how basically, you know, we're sucking the earth dry, okay.

606
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,440
But then there's this one little golden arrow, which is the consumption part.

607
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Please pay attention to this. Just listen, sit back.

608
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,440
You'll, you'll hit the part that I really, I can't fast forward. This thing otherwise, it probably would have

609
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,840
cuted up. I know I'm getting to it. I know I would have cuted up a different

610
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:25,600
different spot, but it'll be worth a couple of minutes to listen to this chapter from storyofstuff.com.

611
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,880
That brings us to the golden arrow of consumption.

612
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040
This is the heart of the system, the engine that drives it.

613
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,920
It is so important that protecting this arrow has become the top priority for both of these

614
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,360
guys. That's why after 9-11, when our country was in shock and President Bush could have suggested

615
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:50,480
any number of appropriate things to grieve, to pray, to hope. No, he said to shop, to shop.

616
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:57,600
We have become a nation of consumers. Our primary identity has become that of being consumers,

617
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:03,760
not mothers, teachers, farmers, but consumers. The primary way that our value is measured

618
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:10,080
and demonstrated is by how much we contribute to this arrow, how much we consume, and do we,

619
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:17,760
we shop, and shop, and shop, keep the materials flowing, and flow they do. Guess what percentage

620
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,880
of total materials flow through this system is still in product or use six months after

621
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:34,240
their date of sale in North America. 50 percent? 20? No. 1 percent. 1. In other words, 99 percent

622
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:38,640
of the stuff we harvest mine, processed transport, 99 percent of the stuff we run through this

623
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:45,760
system is trashed within six months. Now, how can we run a planet with that level of materials

624
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,680
throughput? It wasn't always like this. The average US person now consumes twice as much as they

625
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:57,440
did 50 years ago. Ask your grandma. In her day stewardship and resourcefulness and thrift were

626
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:04,800
valued. So how did this happen? Well, it didn't just happen. It was designed. Shortly after World

627
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:11,040
War II, these guys were figuring out how to ramp up the economy, retailing analyst Victor Lebow

628
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,000
articulated the solution that's become the norm for the whole system. He said, are enormously

629
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,640
productive economy demands that we make consumption our way of life, that we convert the buying

630
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,680
and use of goods into rituals, that we seek our spiritual satisfaction, our ego satisfaction in

631
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:32,000
consumption, many of things consumed, burned up, replaced and discarded at an ever accelerating rate.

632
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,680
President Eisenhower's Council of Economic Advisors Chairman said that the American economy's

633
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:43,680
ultimate purpose is to produce more consumer goods. More consumer goods are ultimate purpose,

634
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,600
not provide health care, education, or safe transportation, or sustainability, or justice,

635
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:55,440
consumer goods. How did they get us to jump on board this program so enthusiastically? Well,

636
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,320
two of their most effective strategies are planned obsolescence and perceived obsolescence.

637
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:06,000
Planed obsolescence is another word for designed for the dumb. It means they actually make

638
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,720
stuff to be useless as quickly as possible, so we'll chuck it and buy a new one. It's obvious

639
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:16,160
with things like plastic bags and coffee cups, but now it's even big stuff. Mob, DVDs, cameras,

640
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:21,520
barbecues, even everything, even computers. Have you noticed that when you buy a computer now,

641
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,520
the technology is changing so fast that in just a couple of years, it's actually an impediment

642
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,480
to communication? I was curious about this, so I opened up a big desktop computer to see what was

643
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,840
inside. And I found out that the piece that changes each year is just a tiny little piece in the

644
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,640
corner, but you can't just change it at one piece because each new version is a different shape,

645
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:46,480
so you've got to chuck the whole thing and buy a new one. So I was reading industrial design

646
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,000
journals from the 1950s when planned obsolescence was really catching on. These designers are so open

647
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,600
about it. They actually discuss how fast can they make stuff break that still leaves the consumer

648
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,800
having enough faith in the product to go out and buy another one. It was so intentional, but stuff

649
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:08,240
can not break fast enough to keep this arrow afloat. So there's also perceived obsolescence.

650
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:15,200
Now perceived obsolescence is to throw away stuff that is still perfectly useful. How do they do

651
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,800
that? Well, they change the way the stuff looks. So if you bought your stuff a couple of years ago,

652
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,960
everyone can tell that you haven't contributed to this arrow recently. And since the way we

653
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,920
demonstrate our value is contributing to this arrow, it can be embarrassing. Like I've had the

654
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,920
same fat white computer monitor on my desk for five years, my coworker just got a new computer.

655
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,840
She has a flat shiny sleek monitor. The matches are computer, matches are phone, even a

656
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,960
pen stand. She looks like she's driving in spaceship central and I kind of like going

657
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:52,720
about a washing machine on my desk. Fashion is another prime example of this. Have you ever wondered

658
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:57,520
why women shoot heels go from fat one year to skin is the next to fat to skinny? It's not because

659
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,680
there's some debate about which heel structure is the most healthy for women's feet. It's because

660
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,320
wearing fat heels in a skinny heel year shows everybody that you haven't contributed to that

661
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,880
arrow as recently. So you're not as valuable as that person in skinny heels next to you or more

662
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:18,240
likely in some ad. It's to keep us buying new shoes. Advertisements and media in general plays a big

663
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:24,640
role in this. Each of us in the US is targeted with over 3,000 advertisements a day. We see more

664
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,440
advertisements in one year than people 50 years ago saw in a lifetime. And if you think about it,

665
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,720
what's the point of an ad except to make us unhappy with what we have? So 3,000 times today,

666
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,280
we're told our hair is wrong. Our skin is wrong. Our clothes are wrong. Our furniture is

667
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:43,200
wrong. Our car is wrong. We are wrong, but it can all be made right if we just go shopping. Media also

668
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,400
helps by hiding all of this and all of this. So the only part of the material's economy we see

669
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:54,240
is the shopping. The extraction, production and disposal all happens outside of our field of vision.

670
00:43:55,120 --> 00:44:00,720
So in the US, we have more stuff than ever before, but polisho that our national happiness is

671
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:06,800
actually declining. Our national happiness peaked in the 1950s. The same time that this consumption

672
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:14,640
maniac exploded. Interesting coincidence. I think I know why. We have more stuff but we have less

673
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:20,640
time for the things that really make us happy. Friends, family, leisure time. We're working harder

674
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,840
than ever. Some analysts say we have less leisure time than any time since feudal society.

675
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,760
And do you know what the two main activities are that we do with the scant leisure time we have?

676
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:36,480
Watch TV and shop. In the US, we spend three to four times as many hours shopping as our

677
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,800
counterparts in Europe do. So we're in this ridiculous situation where we go to work maybe

678
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,280
two jobs even when we come home and we're exhausted. So we plopped in on our new couch and watch TV.

679
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,360
And the commercials tell us you suck. So we got to go to them all the bisoning to feel better.

680
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,080
And then you got to go to work more to pay for the stuff you just bought. You come home and

681
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,040
you're more tired. You sit down and you watch more TV. And it tells you go to them all again.

682
00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:02,240
And we're on this crazy work, watch, spend treadmill. And we could just stop now you see that's the

683
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:06,320
paint that's the piece. We spent all this stuff. Shut up. Thank you. That's the piece I really

684
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:15,200
want to get to hear. Wow. What an eye opener perceived obsolescence. That is indeed a fantastic

685
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,840
model. It's never been mine, but it's the business model of fashion. As an example,

686
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:28,640
it's the business model of cars of consumer goods without a doubt perceived obsolescence. Fantastic.

687
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:36,640
So the easiest way is to slow down the consumer spending. I don't know. We don't have to stop it.

688
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,920
But the good news is when you slow down consumer spending when you and I start spending less.

689
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:49,920
We actually have more money. What a concept. What a great protest this could be. Stop the

690
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:59,120
menicide. Stop shopping. Now obviously double edged sword here because I'm a part of this machine

691
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:05,280
or we're starting up or we're kind of in the mid cycle of a of a new version of this.

692
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:13,680
And you know, I'm a commercial MF. I got no problem with making money with advertising.

693
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:23,440
But perhaps we can look at what we're buying first and foremost. Reusables, green, etc, etc.

694
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:31,520
But really just slow it down. Particularly this perceived obsolescence. I think that's a big deal.

695
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:38,880
I really do. I, you know, when when someone is trying to sell you something, maybe this is

696
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:44,960
the best plan of attack when someone is trying to sell you something because last year's model is

697
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,440
uncool. And that's the product you should not be buying. Then you're buying into the whole

698
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:55,920
work really hard. Have TV tell you you suck because you don't have the latest and the greatest.

699
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,080
Go shopping, go work harder to go make some money for that is a deadly deadly circle of

700
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:07,760
cycle that we're in. I can see I can see my own daughter in this cycle easily easily.

701
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,360
And even though she gets minimal input from television because she really doesn't watch that much TV.

702
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,080
Well, I'm sure banner ads and shit, you know, magazine, whatever fashion fashion is doing it.

703
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,240
Maybe we should start a new fashion line. I have the wrong bag. Just put it just a bag, a hand bag that says

704
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,400
wrong bag. You know how women will look at it. She's got the wrong bag.

705
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:35,760
Can you believe it? She's got the wrong bag. Look at those heels. Wrong heels. Just make it like the red products,

706
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:41,440
you know? Instead of saying red or instead of saying Gucci, just wrong. That's even better.

707
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:47,520
That's, uh, I've got a new brand, the wrong brand. I've got the wrong bag. I've got the wrong car.

708
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:53,520
I've got the wrong shirt. Excellent. Hey, Chris Mac, let's start making those up. Let's

709
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:59,520
start making up some t-shirts trademark. I'm calling it right now. We're going for the wrong brand.

710
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:07,200
What a great idea. Stop the menicide by wrong. Stop the menicide. I say bye wrong.

711
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,240
Oh, I should wrap this up.

712
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:16,880
I'm good. Chris and River Town. I can to call you and leave comments in real time. I'll actually

713
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,400
pause your podcast and call up and leave a comment. What I just heard,

714
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,560
course, that was about 30 seconds before we change from buck you haven't carried. I love you haven't

715
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,960
carried. So I got another one for eight updates. I fucking love you. I'm carry.

716
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:36,080
That's a great one. All right, uh, one more song, uh, not pod safe, but uh,

717
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,680
very appropriate for the time of year. Happy Hanukkah, everybody.

718
00:48:50,400 --> 00:49:09,200
Good old young Haka, it's time for Hanukkah. So much fun, Haka, to celebrate Hanukkah.

719
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,200
Oh, my God.

720
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,840
Hanukkah is the best of all of us.

721
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:26,720
Instead of one day have a presence. We get eight.

722
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,440
Where do you feel like the only kid in town without a Christmas tree?

723
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Here's our new list of people who are Jewish.

724
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,440
Swallow slide you and play.

725
00:49:47,440 --> 00:51:03,680
[ Music ]

726
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,680
Still not a Jew.

727
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,320
The guess who is the guy who does the voice for Scooby-Doo.

728
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,200
Rob Dylan was born a Jew. Then he wasn't but now he's back.

729
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,880
Mary Tyler Moore's husband is Jewish.

730
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,880
Costware pretty good in the sack.

731
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:30,000
Yes, you got barbets fitted on the PGA tour.

732
00:51:30,000 --> 00:52:16,250
[ Music ]

733
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:30,080
That's a new updated version of the Hanukkah song. I don't know how old it is.

734
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:36,160
I was familiar with the first one. It's like a new list of Jews, fantastic. Happy Hanukkah,

735
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,920
the Hanukkah song. Nice to hear some actual vinyl crackling there.

736
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,360
Haven't heard that in a long time.

737
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Okay, so I think we've got a whole new fashion statement. We've got a whole new A to protest.

738
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,880
We could roll this out globally. Stop the men aside.

739
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:58,000
By wrong. I just love it. I can see you the wrong brand everywhere.

740
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:05,760
And good old products made in the USA, by the way. And recyclable reusable products. By wrong.

741
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,640
I don't know if I'm going to be able to do a food bar Friday for you tomorrow because I'm

742
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,200
actually on the plain home. Thank goodness Friday afternoon. We've got early morning Friday

743
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:20,720
meetings. I won't be back in the condo until late Thursday night when I'd normally do the show.

744
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,920
I got a pack because I got to take my bag with me to the meeting. So I just don't know if I'm

745
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,200
going to have time because you know, a food bar takes a little prep with songs and all that stuff.

746
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:35,600
So I'll make it up to you if I don't just remember. Man, there's so many things to

747
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,000
remember. You've got to live your life with passion. You've got to enjoy your freedom.

748
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:46,240
And we've got to stop the men aside. Vote for Ron Paul and shop wrong.

749
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,480
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