1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Hey, happy, watch you do one. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Pearl, I'm listening to the brand new Pod Show Press audiobook from Bedtime Stories My Kids Love The Adventures Of The Men In The Can. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,000 And these put all the adventures of the men in the can into a book. 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,000 And it's going to be published on Pod Show Press. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,000 But don't worry, you can hear the first chapter of the book is a podcast. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,000 We're going to find it. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Just go to bedtimestoriesmykidslove.podshow.com each week to listen to a brand new chapter of the book. 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Wow, hey, happy, that's great news. 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Hey, aren't you supposed to introduce the show? 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Oh yeah, big hair, big show, big time. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Love ya, but no homo, Delta's here at Charlie. 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Seven, two, one. 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 With 15 bags of squanders stuck in our pants. 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Sugar! 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,000 And 15 bags of toilet paper hanging from our cracks. 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 We don't need no stinkin' sugar. 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,000 I like a thing I'm right. 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,000 For the future. 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 We're gonna hold on to his day. 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 He's very, very. 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:04:24,000 [ Music ] 22 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:33,000 All the things about me, you're the way I want. 23 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,500 Got to tell ya. I built up quite a rapport with DJ Schmolley over the past couple of weeks. 24 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:40,600 Of course, played his match me on Medeo, so on the Fubar Friday. 25 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,100 And start checking out some more of this stuff. Awesome. I love this. 26 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:46,200 I can't drop upside down. 27 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,100 DJ Schmolley kicking off episode number 721 of the daily source code. 28 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:53,400 It is Monday, February 11th, 2008. 29 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,300 Another beautiful day outside of the United Kingdom. 30 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:58,700 Blue skies, no clouds, almost no wind. 31 00:04:58,700 --> 00:05:02,500 Again, what the hell am I doing here instead of flying around? 32 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:05,000 That's a very good question. 33 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,500 You know, actually I was very excited over the weekend. 34 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:12,500 Finally, everything came together on this quest that I've been on for. 35 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:17,500 I got to say at least four and a half years probably or four. 36 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:19,000 Yeah, about four years. 37 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,500 I've literally been trying to find the all in one, one box solution for recording 38 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:27,500 everything I need to on one computer. 39 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:31,500 And all I really want is I want to be able to just put a microphone in, 40 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:36,500 put headphones on and everything else should just work, all the routing, all the, 41 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:40,500 you know, all this external gear that I normally carry around. 42 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:42,500 Of course, the biggest problem was latency. 43 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:48,500 The minute you start processing your voice with electronic or software, 44 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:52,500 essentially, it then it builds in an automatic delay. 45 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:56,500 And this delay can make you talk funny. 46 00:05:56,500 --> 00:05:59,500 So it looks like a combination of a couple things. 47 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:02,500 Well, the guys over at Apple, I got to give them big ass props. 48 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:03,500 No, let me back up. 49 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:05,500 I have tried everything to do this. 50 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:07,500 I've tried it with previous power books. 51 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:09,500 I've tried it with Windows machines. 52 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:13,500 I've tried it with external recording devices and audio hijack pro. 53 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:18,500 And of course, all of that eventually led when we started off in like 2004 before we 54 00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:20,500 would encounter numbers on the show. 55 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:24,500 That eventually led to the collaboration with Mike for state that turned into cast 56 00:06:24,500 --> 00:06:25,500 plaster on Windows. 57 00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:28,500 That's the whole reason I moved to the Windows platform. 58 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:33,500 It looks like the guys in Cupertino have really gotten together with with the latest OS. 59 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:40,500 And with the, I guess the dual core horsepower that these new MacBooks have. 60 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:43,500 Because finally everything is there. 61 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:48,500 This whole concept of this, I guess it's the core audio team at Mac who put all this together. 62 00:06:48,500 --> 00:06:53,500 The concept of aggregate devices being able to route through virtual devices. 63 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:59,500 Add onto that the smartness of the guys over at Ableton who make Ableton live. 64 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:05,500 Who have essentially concentrated 100% on speed and processing and ease of use. 65 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:09,500 And not a lot on the interface to very flat interface. 66 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:13,500 No spiffy knobs, no high end renderings of something. 67 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:17,500 It looks like a 24 track mixer or anything like that. 68 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:20,500 Lots of flexibility to build up the interface the way you want it. 69 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:22,500 Why the fuck is the dog barking while I'm talking? 70 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:26,500 It rotates me. 71 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:28,500 Oh, I know why it's the window washer guys here. 72 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:29,500 He's warning us. 73 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:33,500 He's not actually barking. 74 00:07:33,500 --> 00:07:37,500 So everything now works inside the Mac. 75 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:39,500 I can route to Skype and back again. 76 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:41,500 External applications have to be fair. 77 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:47,500 I'm also using another program called SoundBiteBiteSpelt as BYTE as in a computer bite. 78 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:50,500 Which essentially lets me load up a whole bunch of anything. 79 00:07:50,500 --> 00:07:58,500 Well, anything I guess, you know, MP3s, wave, AFFs, GS3 files that come off of cell phones. 80 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:02,500 You can just drop it into essentially it looks like a cartridge rack. 81 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:04,500 You can fire stuff up and you can pause it. 82 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:06,500 And that's it's a good program. 83 00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:08,500 It's not quite the way I'd like it. 84 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:10,500 But it's certainly fulfills the main need. 85 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:14,500 And now I've hooked up the Yamaha workstation. 86 00:08:14,500 --> 00:08:18,500 The Alpha Whiskey's 16 golf older listeners remember that one. 87 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:20,500 And I'm using it basically as a MIDI controller. 88 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:23,500 So now when I move the microphone fader up and down like that, 89 00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:30,500 I actually, I'm not actually controlling the output of the microphone into the computer. 90 00:08:30,500 --> 00:08:33,500 I'm controlling the live software. 91 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:36,500 And I actually see the faders move on the screen, 92 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:39,500 or at least the indicators that are indicating the fader. 93 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:43,500 So anyway, now I've found, I forget the name of it. 94 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:47,500 I found this beautiful little portable battery operated MIDI driven. 95 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:50,500 And by the way, is MIDI undervalued or what? 96 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:54,500 This MIDI driven six port fader bay. 97 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:55,500 So I can take that on the road. 98 00:08:55,500 --> 00:08:58,500 And then all I basically need is that as an external device, 99 00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:01,500 very lightweight, not a whole another computer to carry around. 100 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:03,500 My microphone, my headphones, and I'm done. 101 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:07,500 And it's expandable so I can add on another one of those panels 102 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:11,500 where I can just, I can map button so I could fire up songs 103 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:14,500 and little bits and openings and jingles, et cetera. 104 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:15,500 It's really come together. 105 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:17,500 So far, in fact, now I'm ready. 106 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:20,500 I think I'm ready, or just about after this kind of stabilizes. 107 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:21,500 I'm sure that it all works. 108 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:24,500 I'm going to go for one of these live situations. 109 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:27,500 I think that there's some good services out there 110 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:30,500 that offer you a phone bridge and you can mute and unmute people 111 00:09:30,500 --> 00:09:31,500 and it's a chat room. 112 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:33,500 And I really wanted to give it a try. 113 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:37,500 Especially after hearing this comment from J-Mac over at hood hype. 114 00:09:37,500 --> 00:09:41,500 I'm just wanted to check in and drop you a message. 115 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:47,500 You know, we did our first live show through Eustream. 116 00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:50,500 We just did audio only in over the year. 117 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:54,500 And I tell you what, and there's something to be said about doing a live chat 118 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:58,500 and inviting people to call in live when you're interviewing somebody 119 00:09:58,500 --> 00:09:59,500 right there. 120 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:03,500 And when you're spending music and you get live comments 121 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:06,500 of what people think, based on the people coming out 122 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:11,500 and dropping off, you can see real time what people like and dislike. 123 00:10:11,500 --> 00:10:15,500 Because a lot of people are really too lazy to post a message on the blog 124 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:19,500 or to email, or you can call for that matter when you give them a free phone number. 125 00:10:19,500 --> 00:10:27,500 Yeah, this is essentially the real difference between podcasting and live radio. 126 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:30,500 It's about the time driven nature of it. 127 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:33,500 When you have to tune in, there's certain time to get something 128 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:38,500 and I think J-Mac is going to talk about how that happens when you miss stuff. 129 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:44,500 You know, having people respond in real time, but also a finite starting and ending point. 130 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:47,500 You know, like this morning, it's like I spent at least an hour 131 00:10:47,500 --> 00:10:50,500 ticking around after I got my perfect setup. 132 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:52,500 It actually wouldn't start up. 133 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:55,500 And I was so ready to pontificate too. 134 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:58,500 But this of course was because my Mac needed it's weekly reboot. 135 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:01,500 Very different from Windows, where it's a couple times a day 136 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:04,500 because something with the MIDI court server was all messed up. 137 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:07,500 And by the way, I still got to give props to the core audio team 138 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:09,500 because I've been messing with this thing for at least a week 139 00:11:09,500 --> 00:11:12,500 and amaze that I hadn't had to reboot before then. 140 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:15,500 Anyway, let's check in with J-Mac again. 141 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:19,500 Let's see what he has on his experiences with doing who'd hype live. 142 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:21,500 Anyway, so which brings me to my next question. 143 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:25,500 I listen to Howard Stern religiously every single damn day during the week. 144 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:29,500 I get 30 minutes to listen to the show on serious satellite. 145 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:31,500 Luckily for me, they looped the show all day. 146 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:33,500 If I'm lucky, I won't catch it in the same segment. 147 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:38,500 I was listening to it on and I get 230 minute pieces of the 4-5 hour show. 148 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:42,500 My problem is, you know, I want to hear the whole damn thing. 149 00:11:42,500 --> 00:11:44,500 I just don't have the ability to. 150 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:48,500 Well, you know, that's interesting because I think if you listen to Howard Stern, 151 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:51,500 sometimes he goes on very long rants. 152 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:54,500 And that will carry out a thread throughout those three or four hours. 153 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:57,500 But very often they regurgitate or repeat stuff. 154 00:11:57,500 --> 00:12:01,500 Certainly every other morning show that I know over the United States does this 155 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:03,500 because the audience flips over every 15 minutes. 156 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:06,500 And honestly, I don't think it's necessary. 157 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:14,500 And you don't have to, I think you can get everything out in under an hour. 158 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:17,500 But of course, it's a little different because it's a live situation. 159 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:19,500 They're just passing the time. 160 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:21,500 They've got to do something. 161 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:23,500 So it is very interesting. 162 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:24,500 Sorry about that. 163 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:26,500 And I'm not quite sure. 164 00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:27,500 Well, I got to think about it actually. 165 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:31,500 I got to think about if the Howard Stern show has changed dramatically 166 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:33,500 since they're on serious or not. 167 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:36,500 I'm sure that they were thinking a lot more about repeating certain items 168 00:12:36,500 --> 00:12:39,500 and certain news bits when they were still on free to air broadcast. 169 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:42,500 So if I can put it on my iPod, you know, 170 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:46,500 via podcasts, subscription to iTunes or whatever, 171 00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:48,500 that would be optimal. 172 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:52,500 But I'm sure there's advertising issues with that. 173 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:54,500 Copyright issues with that. 174 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:58,500 Yeah, obviously they can't be tracked and all that shit. 175 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:01,500 So my thing is, 176 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:03,500 it's all about the music. 177 00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:06,500 That's the only reason why you can't, 178 00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:08,500 and how much music do they play? 179 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:11,500 The Howard Stern show doesn't play very much music. 180 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:13,500 That's just the control issue then. 181 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:15,500 I think it's just because they don't want their shit out on the internet. 182 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:17,500 And it's probably a part of the contracts 183 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:20,500 so that it remains exclusive to serious. 184 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:21,500 Did you see the price? 185 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:24,500 You know, why can't we create something 186 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:27,500 that there's a happy medium between all of it? 187 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:28,500 You know, 188 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:31,500 I guess satellite radio would have to be free 189 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:37,500 in order for podcasting to be a legitimate medium 190 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:40,500 married with the satellite radio 191 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:45,500 because it doesn't work if the podcast is out there for free. 192 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:48,500 Yeah, there's an interesting article 193 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:51,500 on the financial times I read over the weekend about. 194 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,500 There's some shifts going on here 195 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:55,500 when it comes to infrastructure 196 00:13:55,500 --> 00:13:58,500 because you mentioned serious satellite would have to be for free. 197 00:13:58,500 --> 00:13:59,500 Well, unfortunately, 198 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:03,500 they don't really know how to sell advertising on serious. 199 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,500 The sponsorships, yes, 200 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:07,500 but real advertising spot advertising, 201 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:09,500 no, because they don't, 202 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:13,500 I don't think they qualify for the arbitron ratings. 203 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:14,500 That's what you need. 204 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:16,500 You have to appear in the ratings book 205 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:19,500 which makes it very, very complicated. 206 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:21,500 And on top of that, 207 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:25,500 keeping two satellites in orbit continuously is an extremely expensive business. 208 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:28,500 Same thing going on here with digital audio broadcast, 209 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:30,500 better known as DAB, 210 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:33,500 where this company has invested very heavily 211 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:36,500 in all this architecture and infrastructure 212 00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:37,500 so that they can actually deliver 213 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:40,500 multi channels of digital pristine clear quality audio. 214 00:14:40,500 --> 00:14:42,500 But the bottom line is 215 00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:47,500 only 1% of all people have digital audio broadcast capabilities 216 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:48,500 in their car. 217 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:49,500 So unless the government says, 218 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:51,500 we're going to stop all regular FM 219 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:54,500 and AM broadcast which they will never do. 220 00:14:54,500 --> 00:14:57,500 That's just not going to be the same type of 221 00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:00,500 silo-driven pipe business model 222 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:03,500 that people have to have to listen to 223 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:06,500 one particular type of architecture in order to 224 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:07,500 be able to listen to it all. 225 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:09,500 Now there's just so much choice. 226 00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:13,500 So when you look at the percentage of people who have an iPod 227 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:14,500 or other MP3 device, 228 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:16,500 I think it's pretty clear where the future 229 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:17,500 is going to be. 230 00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:18,500 But it's open. 231 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:19,500 There's no restrictions. 232 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:22,500 There's no one who has the lock on the frequencies. 233 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:23,500 Or people are pirating. 234 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:25,500 They'll show out there for free. 235 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:27,500 Damn it. 236 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:29,500 There's got to be a way to do this. 237 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:31,500 So I don't know, man. 238 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:34,500 I think that's the battle with serious satellite 239 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:37,500 trying to get them to accept a free medium. 240 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:38,500 Now it's about money. 241 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:39,500 If somebody's going to be paying money, 242 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:41,500 why would they fucking pay if they're 243 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:42,500 can download it on the internet? 244 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:43,500 But the fact is that. 245 00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:44,500 Exactly. 246 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:47,500 So anyway, my question is, 247 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:49,500 or my idea is, 248 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:51,500 we need to come up with something that 249 00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:53,500 allows people to do it all. 250 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:55,500 Complete 100% freedom. 251 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:57,500 Podcasting offers that, 252 00:15:57,500 --> 00:16:00,500 but man, if the live feed 253 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:02,500 that just has so many cool 254 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:05,500 extra things to it, man, 255 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:07,500 I love it. 256 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:09,500 I wish we could do it all, man. 257 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:10,500 I really do. 258 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:11,500 What are your thoughts on it? 259 00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:12,500 I would really like to hear it. 260 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:14,500 I know it's all about sucked a man, 261 00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:15,500 fuck bro. 262 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:16,500 Podcast media. 263 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:17,500 It's all about violence. 264 00:16:17,500 --> 00:16:18,500 Sure. 265 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:19,500 I was bringing a whole hell of a lot 266 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:20,500 to a show. 267 00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:21,500 So we'll look at what you're doing. 268 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:23,500 I'll be curious to hear your thoughts. 269 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:24,500 Thank you. 270 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:25,500 Okay. 271 00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:26,500 Jay Mag, look at what you're doing, man. 272 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:28,500 You're doing essentially. 273 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:30,500 Although it's not quite streaming live 274 00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:31,500 onto portable devices, 275 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:32,500 but it will. 276 00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:34,500 I mean, it can only take five or ten years 277 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:36,500 and we'll be there and then the internet 278 00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:37,500 will be ubiquitous. 279 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:38,500 You'll be able to pick it up 280 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:39,500 on almost any portable device. 281 00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:41,500 And then you can do a live show. 282 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:42,500 The question is, 283 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:44,500 what is the audience really want at that point? 284 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:46,500 It seems that, you know, 285 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:52,500 live broadcast is still works on radio. 286 00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:54,500 How many listeners did you have? 287 00:16:54,500 --> 00:16:56,500 That's what I'd like to know. 288 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:58,500 So I think it can work both ways. 289 00:16:58,500 --> 00:16:59,500 One is the way I do it, 290 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:01,500 which is essentially you call in 291 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:02,500 with your phone comments. 292 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:04,500 And we have a quasi interaction, 293 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,500 which of course is intellectually 294 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:08,500 not quite very stimulating for either party, 295 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:10,500 but I think it does work 296 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:11,500 and doing it for a while. 297 00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:12,500 And then, of course, 298 00:17:12,500 --> 00:17:14,500 the other way is to do a live show 299 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:16,500 that people who can participate 300 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:18,500 and I think you'll find that a 301 00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:20,500 group will be able to tune in 302 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:22,500 and if you have some, 303 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:23,500 you know, 304 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:25,500 if you can set up a schedule for yourself, 305 00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:27,500 we can do it at the same time every day. 306 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:28,500 Of course, for me, 307 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:29,500 that's a double whammy, 308 00:17:29,500 --> 00:17:30,500 because you know, 309 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:31,500 I'd love to do it in the morning 310 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:32,500 or in the afternoon, 311 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:33,500 or the evening, 312 00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:34,500 and one particular time zone 313 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:35,500 is going to be different 314 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:36,500 all over the world. 315 00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:37,500 And the Charlie listeners, 316 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:38,500 just looking at that survey, 317 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:39,500 man, 318 00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:41,500 we're from all over the place. 319 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:43,500 Anyway, 320 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:44,500 to be continued, 321 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:47,500 and right into something 322 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:49,500 I've been saving up a whole bunch of comments 323 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:50,500 about this is the 324 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:52,500 metered bandwidth trial 325 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:53,500 in Beaumont, Texas, 326 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:54,500 time Warner is doing. 327 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:55,500 And of course, 328 00:17:55,500 --> 00:17:56,500 lots of people have opinions on it, 329 00:17:56,500 --> 00:17:59,500 and let's listen to a couple of them. 330 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:00,500 Hey, 331 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:01,500 what's going on? 332 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:02,500 Hey, I'm your Beaumont. 333 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:03,500 This is David, 334 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:04,500 your friend, 335 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:05,500 and Bobbi, Texas. 336 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:06,500 Hey, David, 337 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,500 call you every once in a while. 338 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:09,500 You know, 339 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:11,500 the big thing is that we got 340 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:13,500 compounds now for eyelids, 341 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:15,500 and time Warner was through. 342 00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:17,500 I didn't know they were still in the time 343 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:19,500 and the Beaumont market. 344 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:20,500 Yeah, see, 345 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:22,500 I've been looking for someone who lives in Beaumont, Texas, 346 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:23,500 so I can actually find out 347 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:25,500 what the metered trial is all about, 348 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,500 and how they're thinking of charging, 349 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:29,500 and is there a limit you get, 350 00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:30,500 and then you pay over, 351 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:31,500 I mean, 352 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:33,500 all the questions that are just completely unanswered. 353 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:35,500 That's interesting news to hear. 354 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:36,500 It's metered stuff, 355 00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:37,500 garbage. 356 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:38,500 I just read a pay for the highway, 357 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:39,500 and you know, 358 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:41,500 just get where I need to go. 359 00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:42,500 Not a mean. 360 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:43,500 Uh-huh. 361 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:44,500 In fact, 362 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:46,500 we talked about that, 363 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:50,500 that very topic about paying more on the highway, 364 00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:52,500 if you have a bigger rig, 365 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:54,500 if you're using up more of the road, 366 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:55,500 I eat, 367 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:56,500 if you're using up more bandwidth 368 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:57,500 or the only guy who can answer that 369 00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:59,500 is our very own trucker time. 370 00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:00,500 You know, Adam, 371 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:01,500 Tom Wiles here, 372 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:03,500 aka Trucker Tom, 373 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:07,500 trucks do indeed pay a lot more 374 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:11,500 to use the roads than cars or motorcycles. 375 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:13,500 Now, I'm a company driver. 376 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:16,500 I'm making wages just to drive a company truck, 377 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:18,500 so I'm not paying out of my pocket, 378 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:20,500 but I do know that the average truck, 379 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:22,500 and this is kind of an estimate, 380 00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:25,500 is paying probably 15 to 20,000 dollars 381 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:27,500 a year. 382 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:28,500 Rolling drive. 383 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:29,500 Various fuel taxes, 384 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:31,500 road use taxes, 385 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:33,500 registration fees, 386 00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:34,500 so on and so forth. 387 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:36,500 It's very expensive to operate truck. 388 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:38,500 One of the problems I see is that 389 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:40,500 it's inconsistent from state to state. 390 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:41,500 California, for example, 391 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:43,500 if you own a car in California, 392 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:45,500 it's going to be more expensive 393 00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:47,500 than if you own a car in Arkansas 394 00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:49,500 for where I live, for example. 395 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:50,500 You know, 396 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:52,500 if they could make it consistent 397 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:54,500 for the immediate bandwidth, 398 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:56,500 if they could make it consistent 399 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:58,500 all across the country, 400 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:00,500 it might be a good system, 401 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:02,500 but what I'm afraid of is you 402 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:06,500 end up with different prices for different regions. 403 00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:08,500 Something's going to have to be done. 404 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:10,500 It's going to be interesting to see 405 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:12,500 what the results are of the 406 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:14,500 experiment that they're conducting in Beaumont. 407 00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:18,500 You can find my podcast at Trucker Tom podcast.com. 408 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:22,500 You can find my HD video podcast at Trucker Tom HD.com. 409 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:25,500 I'm talking also find my video podcast 410 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:28,500 as of February 1st on Tivo. 411 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:32,500 You can find me on the Tivo Guide. 412 00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:36,500 You can check that out at TivoCast. podshow.com. 413 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:38,500 All right Tom. Yo. 414 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:40,500 You love you, me and it. 415 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,500 Sorry about the crackling there. 416 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:44,500 I've said my latency filter. 417 00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:46,500 But I can't change it while I'm recording. 418 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,500 So if you hear a crackle once in a while, 419 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:50,500 do not be alarmed. 420 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:52,500 It's not the wire on your earbud. 421 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:56,500 So we heard last week from Belgium listener 422 00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:58,500 who talked about his bandwidth constantly in the cost 423 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:00,500 and his situation. 424 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:04,500 Of course, I would venture to say that the infrastructure in Europe 425 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:08,500 and in the east and the far east is a lot better in the United States. 426 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:12,500 Of course, this is only US-centric conversation. 427 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:16,500 I am here during a long time listener since Episode 1. 428 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:18,500 I'm calling with some info about the meter bandwidth 429 00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:20,500 discussion you were talking about. 430 00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:38,500 Here in Holland, I pay 20 euros each month for a full limited data pack. 431 00:21:38,500 --> 00:21:44,500 And usually I'm around about 60 to 60 gigs a month. 432 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:46,500 Wow. 433 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,500 20 euros for unlimited bandwidth. 434 00:21:48,500 --> 00:21:50,500 Are you sure there's not little asterix there? 435 00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:52,500 That says that there is a limit. 436 00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:54,500 Check on your bill or your contract 437 00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:56,500 and get back to me, man. 438 00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:58,500 Because that sounds almost too good to be true. 439 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:00,500 And you've got 20 megabits down one megabit up. 440 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:02,500 Oh, I've got wood for your situation. 441 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:06,500 It's 20 down and one up. 442 00:22:06,500 --> 00:22:10,500 So it's a bit cheaper than the Belgian guys. 443 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:14,500 A little democratic for me. 444 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:18,500 On the bus driver, a city bus driver here in Holland. 445 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:22,500 I'm 30 years wife two kids. 446 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:24,500 Yeah, just a normal guy. 447 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:34,500 I'm also trying to start my podcast called talking about being a bus driver. 448 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:35,500 Yeah. 449 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:36,500 I'm searching for info. 450 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:38,500 If you can help me do this. 451 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:39,500 And yeah. 452 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,500 Fuller rep deal. 453 00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:42,500 I love you no homo. 454 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:44,500 I wish you a good day. 455 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:45,500 Hi, boy. 456 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:47,500 Thank you. 457 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:49,500 Yeah, let me know about your contract. 458 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:53,500 If it's really true that there's no, no cap on what you can use on a monthly basis. 459 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:57,500 Usually there's a little, a little fine print there that you got to take a look at. 460 00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:59,500 But, you know, it's Europe. 461 00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:01,500 Wouldn't surprise me. 462 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:03,500 Interesting. 463 00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:05,500 The idea of a bus driver doing a podcast. 464 00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:09,500 That what I would do is I would rig my, my, my set up there. 465 00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:13,500 And yeah, I'm sure you have lots of interesting conversations with people. 466 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:15,500 That's what I would be doing. 467 00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:17,500 I'd be recording that. 468 00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:20,500 But then again, I'm not a bus driver. 469 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,500 Not everyone's happy with this. 470 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:23,500 All right. 471 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:24,500 I'm curious. 472 00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:26,500 Officially lost your freaking mind. 473 00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:28,500 About meter bandwidth. 474 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:29,500 Come on. 475 00:23:30,500 --> 00:23:32,500 There's a big, big hole in your theory. 476 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:34,500 And the big hole is this. 477 00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:37,500 The cell phone industry, which you keep using as an example. 478 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:40,500 Lowering rates and how it's much cheaper now. 479 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:42,500 Is suffering from competition. 480 00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:47,500 There are four or five, maybe even seven major carriers of cell phones in the United States. 481 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,500 Yeah, but my friend, it didn't start out that way. 482 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:51,500 Now, did it? 483 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:54,500 It took quite a while for there to be some real competition in cell phones. 484 00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:56,500 There were competing systems today. 485 00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:58,500 There is still competing systems. 486 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:02,500 Well, you can't use one phone on another network. 487 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:07,500 And there's all kinds of downsides and competitive measures that it just took time. 488 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:11,500 You know, it takes time. 489 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:17,500 And I believe that anyone should at least have a DSL option, a cable mode of option. 490 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:20,500 And then why not even a dedicated line? 491 00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:26,500 You know, like a local unbundled local loop. 492 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:30,500 It does take some effort, you know, depending on where you are. 493 00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:32,500 Companies aren't going to set up unless it's going to pay off. 494 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:37,500 So you've got to create, you know, groups of people that say, hey, we're willing to look at an alternative. 495 00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:39,500 That's how it works. 496 00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:41,500 Competition doesn't just show up. 497 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:42,500 You've kind of got to work for it. 498 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:44,500 That competition drives down prices. 499 00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:49,500 The problem is even in major metropolitan areas like where I live in Seattle. 500 00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:53,500 I still cannot get anything but contest for my provider. 501 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:55,500 They will never drop my rate. 502 00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:59,500 So you can't get a DSL connection through the phone line. 503 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:03,500 I had to find that hard to believe simply because they don't have any competition. 504 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:07,500 And as long as the, you know, infrastructure built on a wired system. 505 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:13,500 There's no incentive for competition because the output in order to run more wire is so expensive. 506 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:18,500 That unless you're 18T on East Coast and already have an infrastructure there, which they don't have here. 507 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:19,500 And there's no competition. 508 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:21,500 There's no reason for competition. 509 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:25,500 There's no incentive for someone to stream a new wire because it would be too expensive. 510 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:29,500 So therefore, meter bandwidth is only going to host people like me who have no other options. 511 00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:30,500 I can't get DSL. 512 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:33,500 I guess I could get a cable or a satellite modem. 513 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:36,500 I had a choice in that, but it's not really competition. 514 00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:38,500 Competition is what's going to drive down cost. 515 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,500 That's what drove down cost to the philanthropy. 516 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:41,500 Love you. 517 00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:42,500 I mean it. 518 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,500 Great hair. 519 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:44,500 Hope you win. 520 00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:45,500 Love you. 521 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:46,500 No home. 522 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:47,500 Emma. 523 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:48,500 You know what? 524 00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:49,500 It's very interesting. 525 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:50,500 You can't get DSL. 526 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:54,500 It seems to me like someone technically it should be possible. 527 00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:58,500 There may not be another offering there, but technically it should be possible. 528 00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:01,500 And I think that's where you have to go. 529 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:07,500 So in the meantime, I'm still trying to find someone who lives in Beaumont, Texas, to find out what's going on. 530 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:13,500 So if you remember, consider that maybe the reason why you're not hearing from anyone in Beaumont is because 531 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:18,500 the internet service is so expensive that they can't afford to download podcasts. 532 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:22,500 No, I hadn't considered it, but it's a good point. 533 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:25,500 I had a list of Paul and Littleton Colorado. 534 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:30,500 A long time listener called in a couple of times, I think. 535 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:32,500 I can remember anyways. 536 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:35,500 But anyways, I was driving home listening. 537 00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:38,500 Episode 719. 538 00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:42,500 We started talking about the bandwidth issues. 539 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:45,500 It was a limited or meter bandwidth. 540 00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:47,500 And I had a question. 541 00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:54,500 I believe that color from Belgium was saying is like a year old per gig over on that meter. 542 00:26:54,500 --> 00:27:02,500 When I started thinking, if they started doing like a dollar here, for every gig over the, a lot of, 543 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:09,500 most consumers will think that's pretty fair deals, not knowing that they're making in the moment 90 cents. 544 00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:12,500 On the dollar of profit per gig that you go over. 545 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:20,500 So just wondering if you think that's fair, if, if, I don't know if any, if anything can be done about that, 546 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:27,500 that's just my thought that they'd probably price it right around the dollar on an overage charge. 547 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:38,500 But I also was thinking, have you tried or thought of contacting someone directly from a well time Warner about the pilot in Beaumont since no one 548 00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:41,500 from Beaumont has called or contacted you. 549 00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:44,500 You know, that's such a good point. 550 00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:52,500 And honestly, I don't think there's a reporter out there that has taken the effort that has made the effort to actually call time Warner and ask exactly that. 551 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:54,500 I know I certainly haven't. 552 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:57,500 We do seem, you know, this is a culturally very interesting. 553 00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:06,500 We seem very, very much at ease to copy paste news reports and then add our own opinion and yell and rant, 554 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:13,500 actually do the work that it probably should should be put into something to affect any kind of change or getting information. 555 00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:16,500 We're just a bunch of lazy bastards. 556 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:17,500 Man, you're so right. 557 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:18,500 Okay. 558 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:23,500 Does anyone know if anyone has actually asked time Warner about this G would a novel question? 559 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:32,500 Just be kind of interested to see if maybe someone from their PR department will be even willing to talk about this on your show. 560 00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:33,500 There's a couple of thoughts. 561 00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:36,500 See if I can get this sign off to incorrect. 562 00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:37,500 Here you go. 563 00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:41,500 31 Italian American losing hair. 564 00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:43,500 Hope I win too. 565 00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:45,500 And, uh, Guillermo Adam. 566 00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:46,500 Yeah. 567 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:47,500 No, almost. 568 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:48,500 Guillermo. 569 00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:49,500 Thank you very much. 570 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:50,500 I appreciate a good point. 571 00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,500 How stupid am I not even think of that? 572 00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:57,500 I'm going to hunt around on Google News and see if anyone actually spoke to a time Warner representative. 573 00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:58,500 All right. 574 00:28:58,500 --> 00:28:59,500 I'm sick and tired of this. 575 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:09,500 Oh, you know, I've always heard that Carmen Tyler has such a beautiful voice that she could read the phone book and make it sound good. 576 00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:12,500 So I think that makes me a karma haul like I'm not sure. 577 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:23,500 With anger at the thought that Adam Curry wanted naked pictures of this beautiful perfect angelic pure Carmen that we love listening to so much. 578 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:24,500 It just angers me. 579 00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:31,500 I got thinking, you know, you're real gift to all of us via these little podcast isn't just a cute half hour or so sweet fun chatter. 580 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:32,500 No. 581 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:37,500 No, the real appeal of Carmen Tyler is the positive spirit that you have, Carmen. 582 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:40,500 Even though you've never sent me the naked picture. 583 00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:41,500 Make pictures. 584 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:42,500 I assure you. 585 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:43,500 You have the fuck. 586 00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:45,500 Well, he keeps them to himself. 587 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:46,500 Because I know I would. 588 00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:48,500 If I had naked pictures of Carmen. 589 00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:56,500 That's K-R-M-Y-N-K-A-S-T dot pot show dot com. 590 00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:58,500 Oh, indeed. 591 00:29:58,500 --> 00:29:59,500 You know, I'm going out to LA. 592 00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:04,500 I think in the next couple of weeks from maybe a day or two and I can't wait. 593 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:08,500 If I'm lucky, I can hook up with Carmen Tyler who's out there. 594 00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:12,500 Sir, ladies from the pod safe music network, think you'll like it. 595 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:14,500 For it in love. 596 00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:17,500 Oh, I think she's sending me messages again. 597 00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:27,500 In a day, she don't know what to do. 598 00:30:27,500 --> 00:32:42,500 [ Music ] 599 00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:53,500 I wonder how she records that. 600 00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:58,500 I wonder if it was recorded with the musicians in the room or she did this in her. 601 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:05,500 I have this visual of her creating this in her apartment on like garage band. 602 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:10,500 It says it's a demo, but damn it's straight up for me, man. 603 00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:13,500 Carmen Tyler for bitten love from the pod safe music network. 604 00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:15,500 And of course, you will find a link to that. 605 00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:19,500 And everything else discussed in the show notes at dailysourcecode.com. 606 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:20,500 Okay, Adam. 607 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:26,500 In the Jewish religion, there are two crimes that are considered unforgivable. 608 00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:31,500 Murder and adultery because they can never be taken back. 609 00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:38,500 I think the Carpander's mashup that you played in daily source code number 720. 610 00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:40,500 Could qualify as a third. 611 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:44,500 Dude, that thing was fucking awful. 612 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:46,500 Okay, just plain fucking awful. 613 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:52,500 That thing, it's a musical abortion that needs to be a code hanger before you can play it again. 614 00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:57,500 Now, I understand that some guy called in and he wanted to hear yesterday once more by the Carpander's, 615 00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:02,500 which in itself is about as lame as Stephen Hawking on a stairmaster. 616 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:06,500 But you, you proceed to play this thing. 617 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,500 Now, I love the mashups on mashup.com. 618 00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:12,500 I love the mashups you play. They're very clever. They're cool. 619 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:20,500 They kind of, they tickle various spots in my cerebral cortex that I find to be satisfying. 620 00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:23,500 But this Carpander's mashup, you know what it's like? 621 00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:26,500 It's like getting a blowjob from somebody's grandma. 622 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:29,500 I mean, it may feel good for like the first one or two seconds, 623 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:35,500 but then after that you're filled with more loathing than ten years of therapy can cure. 624 00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:39,500 This, of course, is hypothetical. I've never been blown by anybody's grandma, 625 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:42,500 but I'd like to think I keep an open mind. 626 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:45,500 Anyway, please, just, Adam, repeat after me. 627 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:46,500 Okay, I hear you. 628 00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:47,500 Please say this. 629 00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:48,500 Okay. 630 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,500 I will never play the Carpander's mashup again. 631 00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:54,500 I will never play the Carpander's mashup again. 632 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:56,500 I promise. 633 00:34:56,500 --> 00:35:00,500 Oh, man, I got like 15 minutes and we got a sales conference call, 634 00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:02,500 so I got to hurry to long today. 635 00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:08,500 Hey, good response from the Brits over here about the Snoop Dogg Nation better known 636 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:12,500 as the British Surveillance State. 637 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:18,500 Although on the, when it comes to close circuit TV cameras, 638 00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:21,500 this is very interesting when I'm getting back. 639 00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:25,500 So, you know, this, this country, for those of you just listening into this thread 640 00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:30,500 for the first time, is filled with wire taps and over four million cameras. 641 00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:34,500 If the most watched nation in the world barn on everybody knows it, 642 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:37,500 Stephen East meets, says Adam, 643 00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:40,500 generally speaking, I'm with you on your argument for the most part. 644 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:44,500 I'm concerned about the amount of bugging and lack of accountability there appears to be, 645 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:47,500 but I'm not quite with you regarding public CCTVs. 646 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:50,500 I was a magistrate, which is, is that a judge? 647 00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:53,500 I think it's a, well, we'll find out. 648 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:58,500 I'm magistrate for many years, which encompassed both pre and post widespread CCTV use, 649 00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:02,500 while I consider that there ought to be more regulation of CCTV. 650 00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:07,500 I only ever found them very helpful form of evidence in a magistrate's court. 651 00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:10,500 And this is exactly what my wife says. 652 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,500 You know, she says, hey, this is really good because, you know, 653 00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:18,500 bad people will are on the watch out because they know that they can be identified by cameras. 654 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:20,500 And yes, that is a benefit. 655 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:22,500 The question is, it's, you know, it's not the cameras. 656 00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:24,500 It's who's operating them. 657 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:26,500 And what powers are they given? 658 00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:28,500 And what can they watch you do? 659 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:31,500 And it's, it's never ending discussion. 660 00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:35,500 This is why in the United States, it's such a big deal that this is being, 661 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:36,500 being done. 662 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:41,500 This is the whole, the hell is the name of that act, the Fina or whatever. 663 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,500 You know, it's, it's nuts. 664 00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:48,500 Because, yeah, today they're catching bad guys tomorrow. 665 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:52,500 Well, actually, today they're also catching you speeding by three miles an hour. 666 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:56,500 Yeah, now the CCTV cameras are starting to talk back to you, 667 00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:59,500 telling you, hey, calm down over there. 668 00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:03,500 I mean, this is big brother, no matter how you, how you look at it. 669 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:05,500 So, yes, well, sometimes it may be handy. 670 00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:07,500 I just don't buy the argument. 671 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:09,500 If you have nothing to hide, what are you afraid of? 672 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:11,500 I like the argument. 673 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:12,500 I'm doing nothing wrong. 674 00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:14,500 Why do you have to be looking at me? 675 00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:15,500 I don't know. 676 00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:16,500 We've told you. 677 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:18,500 We're probably going to be drunk this evening. 678 00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:19,500 I'm sorry. 679 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:20,500 Yes. 680 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,500 I am just walking past the practice. 681 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:24,500 It's a, I like getting it in recognition of it. 682 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:26,500 You need contribution to British cinema. 683 00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:32,500 I'm on Monmouth Street, WC2 in London's West End. 684 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:37,500 Just having a little looking to 719, I think. 685 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:41,500 Talk about the CCTV or closed circuit television. 686 00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:46,500 You know, this shit really does piss me off, but it is unfortunately necessary 687 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:49,500 when you have this many people squeezing to such a small space. 688 00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:54,500 All absolutely stuck and jacked to the eyeballs on booze. 689 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,500 They tend to fight in the streets. 690 00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:00,500 And it's just, it's not common to these galley to run around. 691 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:10,500 You know, Charles, and by the way, I love it when you're drunk. 692 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:16,500 I think we should be looking at the cause of all the people boozed up to their eyeballs running around 693 00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:17,500 drunk in the streets. 694 00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:19,500 Why is that happening? 695 00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,500 This doesn't happen in every single city. 696 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:23,500 It doesn't happen in New York. 697 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:25,500 It doesn't happen in Amsterdam. 698 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,500 It doesn't happen in San Francisco. 699 00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:33,500 This is consistently happening in London specifically, but I believe in every city around the UK. 700 00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:41,500 Maybe we should be looking at the reason behind that and why that is happening instead of just trying to put a bandaid on it 701 00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:44,500 by stopping drunk people from running around. 702 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:46,500 Shouldn't we look at the root of the cause? 703 00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:49,500 Unfortunately, it is a bit of a necessary evil. 704 00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:53,500 But I have to say, when those cameras started talking, 705 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:55,500 we're right here. 706 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,500 That was that it's spooky. 707 00:38:57,500 --> 00:39:01,500 I mean, if anyone is interested in a red film moment, 708 00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:07,500 they really want to get themselves a copy of brave new world by all this luxury or even better. 709 00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:10,500 The word that I think you really should have been looking for was all well, 710 00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:14,500 and you should read the George Orwell book 1984. 711 00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:16,500 Yeah, good point. 712 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:17,500 Go reread that. 713 00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:18,500 Go reread it. 714 00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,500 And then go look at that Tom Cruise movie. 715 00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:24,500 What was it? 716 00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:26,500 I can't remember the name of it. 717 00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:29,500 Something, something report. 718 00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:34,500 You know, basically where they know you're going to commit a crime before you actually commit it, 719 00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:35,500 and then they arrest you. 720 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,500 Okay, that may be a bit far fetched. 721 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:38,500 But go reread it. 722 00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:39,500 Go reread 1984. 723 00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:40,500 Go to the library. 724 00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:41,500 Go to Amazon. 725 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:45,500 I'll put a link on Amazon on the show notes. 726 00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:48,500 I'll put a link to the Amazon store so you can buy it. 727 00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:49,500 Purchase it, reread it. 728 00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:51,500 You'll see where the dangers are. 729 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:52,500 This is not new. 730 00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:58,500 Okay, so I mean, the book you've been in the station to appear to use 1984 as a manual, 731 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:01,500 to keep you at all in a state of constant fear. 732 00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:05,500 The very, very beautiful book, but really excellent reading. 733 00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:08,500 I am myself having read them all in fact a bit of a blue book. 734 00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:12,500 Although, yeah, you know what, this, the ID cards. 735 00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:14,500 Don't get me started on that piece. 736 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:16,500 I'm snatched the chip inside my password. 737 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:19,500 Because I don't want to story all that shit about me. 738 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:20,500 So just have a number. 739 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:21,500 That's why I'm not actually on me. 740 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:22,500 Now. 741 00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:23,500 Anyway. 742 00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:24,500 Bye. 743 00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:25,500 All right, Charles. 744 00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:26,500 Thank you. 745 00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:31,500 Richard and Clay Gates as a flash mob to protest our service surveillance society. 746 00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,500 Which is what I suggested. 747 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:37,500 He said, when you've been the victim of a knife point mugging and seen the bastard convicted 748 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:41,500 on the strength of CCTV evidence, you might want to think again. 749 00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:44,500 Ah, we really need some more red pills here, my friends. 750 00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:46,500 Yes, that is a great benefit. 751 00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:50,500 But maybe we go after stopping people before they mug you. 752 00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:52,500 There's reasons behind that, too. 753 00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:56,500 This is just a bandaid on top, which is trying to make you feel good while the same 754 00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:58,500 time you're being frightened to death. 755 00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:00,500 So you think that this is the right remedy. 756 00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:03,500 Can't you see that? 757 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:04,500 Some of you luckily can. 758 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:07,500 Hey, Adam, I just want to say thanks very much for your show 720. 759 00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:08,500 Brilliant. 760 00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:11,500 Do you actually hit the nail well and truly on the head about the totalitarian state 761 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:14,500 that the UK has now become based on fear? 762 00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:19,500 I reckon based on fear after seven, after 9, 11 with Bush and Blair screwing 763 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:21,500 us all completely out of fear. 764 00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:22,500 Keep your scared. 765 00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:24,500 Keep us under control and we'll accept anything. 766 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:26,500 And we certainly have in the UK. 767 00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:31,500 One thing I suggest, you do, if you haven't seen it, is see a video called taking 768 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:33,500 it by Chris Atkins. 769 00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:40,500 It's a brilliant video and it really explains Michael Moore fashion exactly what's happened 770 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,500 to us under the guy's of the Labour government. 771 00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:45,500 Oh man, you've got to watch that. 772 00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:48,500 I posted the first episode that's broken up in the ten parts on YouTube. 773 00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:52,500 I posted that on Curry.com over the weekend as required homework for all British 774 00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:54,500 daily source code listeners. 775 00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:57,500 That is a fantastic piece of work. 776 00:41:57,500 --> 00:42:01,500 In fact, I saw last night that it was nominated for a British film and television award 777 00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:07,500 at the BAFTAs, a very boring show otherwise, but I was surprised and delighted to see that. 778 00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:13,500 You've got to watch this thing because you'll see that protesting actually is kind of outlawed 779 00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:15,500 in the United Kingdom. 780 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,500 It was surprising to me. 781 00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:21,500 Certainly within one kilometer of parliament, you are not allowed to protest. 782 00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:23,500 Want to protest somewhere else? 783 00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:25,500 You've got to go watch this documentary. 784 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:28,500 You'll be surprised if you're living in the United Kingdom. 785 00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:31,500 It is your duty as a Brit to watch that. 786 00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:32,500 I'm not kidding. 787 00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:37,500 And what they've done for us, they have completely removed our right to protest. 788 00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:40,500 And that's the reason that nobody sees any protest anymore. 789 00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:42,500 Because you have to apply to protest. 790 00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:43,500 And of course they'll say no. 791 00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:46,500 And if you go ahead, they'll of course crush it. 792 00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:50,500 So yes, I think that the Labour government have done a lot of wonderful things for us. 793 00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:52,500 But I can't think of one at this moment in time. 794 00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:53,500 So many things you talked about. 795 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:55,500 You're absolutely right on about their heroes. 796 00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:56,500 We've got the wrong heroes. 797 00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:58,500 Football is being paid to ridiculous amounts of money. 798 00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:00,500 They could actually pay for a hospital wing. 799 00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:01,500 I think that's outrageous. 800 00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:04,500 Dude, you are now officially my UK Savand. 801 00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:06,500 You've got to call in more often, man. 802 00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:08,500 First of all, I love the fact that you recorded this. 803 00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:09,500 It sounds awesome. 804 00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:10,500 I don't know what you're recording on. 805 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:13,500 You've got to send in more comments. 806 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:18,500 The media is stuffed full of footballers, wives, and trashy. 807 00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:20,500 We call those distractions. 808 00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:27,500 One of the three necessary tools of the three necessary legs of the stool of fascism. 809 00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:28,500 Yep. 810 00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:30,500 Keep them distracted. 811 00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:33,500 In consequential news, what's wrong with the independent news? 812 00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:38,500 Now, through I think podcasting is such an important part of the world information service. 813 00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:41,500 We should be telling people exactly what is going on. 814 00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:47,500 And certainly things like, are you aware that British citizens can now be taken to America? 815 00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:49,500 By bounty hunters. 816 00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:54,500 If you have a look at times online, the US and there's now clearly stated in a UK court of law, 817 00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:59,500 that it has the right to kick them out of British citizens, accused of a crime in the US. 818 00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:01,500 Horrific things are going on. 819 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:04,500 Of course, the government haven't protested against that. 820 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:06,500 Education, well, you touch a sore point there. 821 00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:10,500 My wife was a teacher, and certainly there's a lot of things going on in education. 822 00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:16,500 What people don't realise is just that the teachers are completely crushed by the amount of paperwork. 823 00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:20,500 And they meant lists and targets that have been put onto them. 824 00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:22,500 Oh, it doesn't surprise me at all. 825 00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:26,500 I've seen the complete apathy of teachers in the public schooling system here. 826 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:28,500 Complete apathy. 827 00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:35,500 I totally agree 100% that the Department of Education has removed all of their power. 828 00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:37,500 And they can't discipline. 829 00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:39,500 And they just have to hit too many targets. 830 00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:40,500 And there's tons of paperwork. 831 00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:42,500 Oh, I buy that for sure. 832 00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:45,500 That's taken from the American Department of Education Playable. 833 00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:47,500 I once again buy the government. 834 00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:48,500 They don't get extra time. 835 00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:52,500 And they've also taken away all their rights as regards discipline children and so on. 836 00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:54,500 And of course, nobody will take responsibility. 837 00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:56,500 These days, nobody takes responsibility for anything. 838 00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:58,500 It's always somebody else's fault. 839 00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:01,500 And if that's the case, that means they can sue. 840 00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:03,500 So it's not surprising that kids don't protest. 841 00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:04,500 They haven't actually seen a protest. 842 00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:07,500 And when you consider you've got, that's a great point, man. 843 00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:09,500 They haven't actually seen a protest. 844 00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:12,500 The only protest kids today in the UK of seniors. 845 00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:17,500 When footballers walk off the field because the crowd is throwing too much shit into the pitch. 846 00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:22,500 Three generations in this country now that have probably never worked in a family. 847 00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:24,500 And they've lived off the state. 848 00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:26,500 And then the state opens its doors to these Europeans. 849 00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:28,500 They come in their cheap labor. 850 00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:29,500 They're earning money. 851 00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:32,500 They're sending them any back home and they're using our facilities. 852 00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:35,500 Maybe that's why we're all drinking over here. 853 00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:38,500 That sounds like a pretty good, nucleus core of issues. 854 00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:42,500 And blocking up the hospital as they're currently doing at the moment with the Polish people, apparently, 855 00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:44,500 filling it all in maternity wards. 856 00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:46,500 It's a dreadful state of affairs. 857 00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:47,500 I couldn't agree with you more. 858 00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:50,500 I just want to thank you very much for flagging it up. 859 00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:52,500 I think we should be protesting an awful lot more. 860 00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:56,500 And the best protest I could think of is actually everybody by a t-shirt that says, 861 00:45:56,500 --> 00:46:02,500 you work for us and then surrounding parliament on a busy day and stopping the traffic and just saying, 862 00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:03,500 just a silent protest. 863 00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:06,500 Just to remind them exactly where they got their power from. 864 00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:08,500 But they've certainly abused that power. 865 00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:10,500 And you're absolutely right. 866 00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,500 There are what 20 or 30 cameras for every person in the UK at the moment. 867 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:15,500 It's outrageous. 868 00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:16,500 So that's me, Sonny. 869 00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:17,500 Thanks very much. 870 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:18,500 Late 40s. 871 00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:19,500 Good looking. 872 00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:20,500 No. 873 00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:21,500 No. 874 00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:22,500 Still married. 875 00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:23,500 King podcaster. 876 00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:25,500 And that's Bob from the Idol Station. 877 00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:26,500 Bye. 878 00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:27,500 Bye. 879 00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:28,500 Bye. 880 00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:29,500 Bye. 881 00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:30,500 Thank you, man. 882 00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:31,500 I love you. 883 00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:32,500 No, homo. 884 00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:33,500 Send him more, dude. 885 00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:34,500 This is a great idea. 886 00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:36,500 You work for us. 887 00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:39,500 So we need t-shirts and we need to coordinate. 888 00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:46,500 I think multiple flashmob since it is illegal to protest within one mile of parliament. 889 00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:48,500 But this wouldn't be a protest. 890 00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:53,500 It would be a quick flash mob and all of a sudden we'd have hundreds of people appeared with these t-shirts. 891 00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:57,500 And then within five minutes, boom, we all disperse before the cops can do anything. 892 00:46:57,500 --> 00:46:59,500 How cool does that sound? 893 00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:01,500 Bob, you want to coordinate? 894 00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:04,500 You want to rock and roll, man? 895 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:05,500 You want to have some fun? 896 00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,500 I'm certainly ready for it. 897 00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:12,500 Steven Lowe says, Adam, I have had my N-810. 898 00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:14,500 This is a Nokia internet tablet. 899 00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:16,500 Since they were launched in the UK, I love it. 900 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:17,500 Found all sorts of cool apps. 901 00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:19,500 But apart from the video center app, 902 00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:22,500 I haven't found a decent podcasting out the downloads directly. 903 00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:24,500 Any ideas? 904 00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:27,500 Muller? 905 00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:28,500 What is it? 906 00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:29,500 Muller? 907 00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:30,500 How much? 908 00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:31,500 $4.47. 909 00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:33,500 Wage slave, Birmingham, UK, White Mail. 910 00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:36,500 Boston Air, Hope you Win, Kippertai. 911 00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:39,500 Love you, and a Brotherly, Love, Hippie Way. 912 00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:42,000 XXX. 913 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,000 You know what? 914 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000 I posted a link on Curry.com, 915 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,500 just this morning to the candy men's Weblog. 916 00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:51,000 You should take a look at that because he shows Canola, 917 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,000 which I think you'll like a lot. 918 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,000 Canola, I think version 2 is now odd. 919 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,000 I haven't had time to load it myself, 920 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,500 but it's a very nice interface for big thumb type usage. 921 00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:01,380 and uh... i know that uh... previous versions of uh... 922 00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:04,420 of canola have done podcast and quite well see might want to have uh... 923 00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:06,580 have a check of that a wait a minute 924 00:48:06,580 --> 00:48:08,020 what is this 925 00:48:08,020 --> 00:48:09,620 what day is it 926 00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:12,340 it's not friday this is weird 927 00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:54,980 [ Music ] 928 00:48:54,980 --> 00:48:58,580 you're out of what do you say 929 00:48:58,580 --> 00:49:05,620 you know how's going at i'm it is jersey time the official musicologist of the 930 00:49:05,620 --> 00:49:06,820 chacha 931 00:49:06,820 --> 00:49:08,180 hey dude i know what you're saying 932 00:49:08,180 --> 00:49:10,580 of course you know it's not food bar friday 933 00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:14,820 but over the time that i've been your official musicologist i do think that i've 934 00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:18,900 built up some certain credibility some certain ability to come to you and say 935 00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:24,740 dude dude i've got something for you that just absolutely blows my mind and some weeks 936 00:49:24,740 --> 00:49:28,580 i simply can't wait till food bar friday to bring it to you 937 00:49:28,580 --> 00:49:32,260 it's happening again to me this week sharing Miller out of New York 938 00:49:32,260 --> 00:49:36,740 New York has a brand new five song EP with a brand new album 939 00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:41,300 you're real soon that is absolutely all right man the stakes are high 940 00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:45,460 possible to wear out a CD i'd like it done it with this one 941 00:49:45,460 --> 00:49:48,980 check this out this song is called waste my breath i know you're going to love it i'll see 942 00:49:48,980 --> 00:49:52,660 you on friday but you got to get this thing on as soon as possible check it out 943 00:49:52,660 --> 00:49:56,740 sharing Miller out of the D.S.C 944 00:49:56,740 --> 00:52:53,340 [ Music ] 945 00:52:53,340 --> 00:52:57,340 I'm always my breath on the rise 946 00:52:57,340 --> 00:53:02,340 I'm always my breath on the rise 947 00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:06,340 I'm always my breath on the rise 948 00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:09,340 It's at a James Beatles Otis running 949 00:53:09,340 --> 00:53:11,340 She's got like 8 or 9 tracks up on the pot 950 00:53:11,340 --> 00:53:12,340 That music never 951 00:53:12,340 --> 00:53:14,340 I'm definitely gonna listen to some of the stuff she has 952 00:53:14,340 --> 00:53:16,340 That's cool, waste my breath 953 00:53:16,340 --> 00:53:18,340 Links in the show notes at dailysourcecode.com 954 00:53:18,340 --> 00:53:22,340 Okay, I got this sales call which started four minutes ago 955 00:53:22,340 --> 00:53:23,340 So I've really gotta go 956 00:53:23,340 --> 00:53:24,340 I'll be back tomorrow 957 00:53:24,340 --> 00:53:26,340 We'll have lots more to talk about 958 00:53:26,340 --> 00:53:28,340 I love you, I mean it in the home 959 00:53:28,340 --> 00:53:30,340 Well, in some cases maybe 960 00:53:30,340 --> 00:53:33,340 Hey, live your life with passion and please enjoy your freedom 961 00:53:33,340 --> 00:53:35,340 What's left of it? 962 00:53:35,340 --> 00:53:37,340 Another pod show podcast 963 00:53:37,340 --> 00:53:39,340 Stick it in your ear