1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,240 That's the way to my heart just love you just love me and praise me and 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,680 Mention me on TV. That's the way to everyone's heart. Yeah, that'll do it. You know, I 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,920 Regret not having banged her when I was single just to give her the thrill of a lifetime 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,920 Don't you think that might have turned her off? I don't know. I don't know how you are in bed. Yeah. Oh 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,240 I'm bad 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,800 I know I'm bad at it 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,840 That seems satisfied. Yeah, well, she's easily pleased. I 8 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,320 Think the guys who came before me weren't that good. That's right 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,440 Yeah, I think had I fucked Jillian she'd love Rush Limbaugh right now 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,880 Anyway, remember the other day we were having a pretty long conversation about Adam Curry Adam Curry used to be an MTV 11 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,920 Vijay he was one of the guys who were on MTV and he was a video host and 12 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,960 And then we started talking about the internet and we read that like he sold his company for 13 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,920 $350 million and became like he owned a castle like the god the godfather of the podcast 14 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,320 Yeah, and then we were like how how did this guy make money podcasting? 15 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:17,300 But then someone explained he or we we've we've surmised that he didn't make money podcasting that he made money 16 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:24,320 Somehow with providing band with her so we don't know so Adam's on the phone to answer our question. Good. Hey, Adam 17 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,880 You there hey, Howard. Good morning. Hey, good morning. Where are you Robin? Good morning? 18 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,840 Where you calling from? 19 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,680 Los Angeles. Okay. Is that where your castle is? 20 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,080 No, my castle was in Europe. I'd left 21 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,360 London about a year ago and I've been in LA for about half a year. I see what's a castle cost 22 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:54,280 It was like a castle light, so it was about three million. Did you have a where was it in England? 23 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:00,080 No, I'm the Antwerp Belgium. Oh and the three million you get a whole castle like what is that? 24 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Like how much land do you get with that castle? 25 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,440 32 acres. Wow 26 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,080 So you lived on a castle with in a castle with your wife. Mm-hmm. You got kids 27 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,640 Yeah, but a daughter. She's almost 20. Oh, wow 28 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,360 So man, he definitely lived the dream. He was smart. You got out of that whole VJ thing 29 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,840 You know, I think about Adam. He was a good-looking guy very popular 30 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:27,240 You know if American Idol had been invented when he was sort of in his youth, he might have gotten the Ryan Seacrest gig 31 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,240 I could have been Ryan Seacrest 32 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,480 You know what I mean? Like you had that kind of career gone 33 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:38,680 It's funny because when I left MTV that was 17 years ago. You called me. That was the last time we spoke and you said I was an idiot 34 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:51,160 So Adam, we were having a discussion about you the other day and I had remembered that I had read somewhere that you had 35 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,800 made a fortune and 36 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,920 That you sold your company for something like 350 million dollars, right? Yeah, that was my first company 37 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:03,200 It was that was an internet advertising company and I started that right after I left MTV and 38 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:10,600 Then sold it in 1999 just before the whole bubble popped. It's like 450 million. So you didn't you didn't 39 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,320 Make your money podcasting 40 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:20,320 You made your money. You were in ads. Well, that was before well that was before podcasting 41 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,760 I was involved in let's just call it the invention of podcasting in 42 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:33,560 2004 and you know podcasting right, you know, it's kind of a I didn't invent the word because let's say that the gayest word ever 43 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:35,320 right 44 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,000 It was really an interim step at the time 45 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,760 You know there was there was an at today's internet power is like wireless. It's portable. It goes everywhere. It's fast 46 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,320 So at the time and I've always been in radio since I was like 15 47 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,200 I'm a huge Howard Stern fan. You know, it's like if only 48 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,080 and 49 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,840 What did you do with the signal what did you do exactly you were you were on and thanks for being a fan 50 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:04,240 But I I'm just curious about this because I couldn't clear this. I still can't clear it up for Robin 51 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:10,700 You invented what or like I remember MTV you had the original MTV website 52 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Yeah, that was in that was early days and I registered MTV calm 53 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,400 It's before there was even a worldwide web. It was like all tech stuff, right? 54 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,520 So in other words, you had the good fortune of early on or the floor site 55 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Well, they sued me over. I don't know if it was good fortune 56 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,880 Well, did that how could they see you owned MTV.com and they didn't want it 57 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,000 Well, they didn't want at the time and then when I left 58 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:37,960 They like two days later 59 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:43,800 They sued me and they said it was copyright infringement and so they we fought for a while 60 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,640 And then eventually we just settled out of court and they got the name if they'd asked me for it back 61 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,600 I would have given it but they sued me. I like fuck you, right? 62 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,040 I mean you were working for the guys they didn't have to be dicks about it. Yeah, exactly 63 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,920 So you so where did you make the bulk of your money? In other words forget the podcasting? 64 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:04,260 It was this advertising agency. Yeah, that was that was pretty big 65 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,960 And why was that worth 450 million dollars? I don't understand what it does in other words 66 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,960 You sold ads on websites 67 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,080 Yeah, well, we built them. This is the early days 68 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,480 This is why we got out of it while we sold the company because we saw that all that was changing 69 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,160 But in the early days, you know, you had 20 people building a website, you know people doing stuff by hand 70 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,760 You know these days you've got like front page and stuff. You can make a website. It's really easy, right? 71 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,200 But but we started with the it'd be like Budweiser.com Reebok.com 72 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,880 Tampax.com you designed their web page 73 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,760 Well, not just designed it 74 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:44,720 But we we connected into the backend systems and help them with their online sales the car airlines picket sales 75 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:51,840 So that was like a with a big company and you and your partners sold that for 450 million bucks. Yeah. Wow 76 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,720 What are you worth? 77 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,840 I don't know. It was a long time ago. Yeah, but I mean have you had that kind of success again with your second and third companies 78 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,400 Hmm 79 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:07,760 No, I had a lot of failures after that. I had a helicopter company. That was a good one 80 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,520 Yeah, after after 9-eleven that was real popular. Were you one of those guys who just kind of figured? 81 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,120 Hey, I did this once I could do it again even in my sleep. Oh, yeah, immediately 82 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:22,480 You're like, hey, you see I can do this like what share what share of 450 million dollars 83 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,840 Do you walk away with you get at least 50 million out of that? 84 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,560 No, no, but but I at the time I had also and 85 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:35,720 Invested it was really crazy. I'd invested like 65 grand in a in a company 86 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,440 a search engine company and 87 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,480 I kind of forgot about it and then my bank called me one day and so you sitting down 88 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,440 So yeah, it's a well that company which was called after G use and I remember that right. Yeah 89 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:54,120 So that went public and all of a sudden I had like 150 million dollars. Wow. Did you did you on paper on paper? 90 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,120 Why didn't she just sell it right away? 91 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Well, you can't sell it right after the IPO, but I did sell a lot of it. So you made a lot of money in that 92 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,440 Yeah, that was that was really good. I remember ask G sure what happened to G's what happened? 93 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,160 I'm very dealer about it. Very dealer bought it. What he ruined it 94 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,400 Yeah, it was it was ruined to start with. It wasn't a very good idea 95 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,240 I think you're gonna say yeah, I put some money in a search engine turn out to be Google was what I thought 96 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,880 I wish I wish I wish so 97 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,080 So you got out of show business in a sense 98 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,480 And became a businessman 99 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Yeah, okay, and then the first business was 100 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Building websites for a lot of you know and showing them how to like sort of make it function and how to make it work 101 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,320 And then you sold that then you went into a bunch of shitty businesses 102 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,920 But you invested in some stuff that actually hit like asked G's 103 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,000 Mm-hmm. And now you're a multi-millionaire. Yeah. Yeah 104 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,880 So then I was in I was in Belgium and I had nothing to do, you know, everything had kind of like, you know 105 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,320 There's nothing I didn't know companies and it was just hanging around 106 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,640 And from the helicopter company actually learned how to fly helicopters 107 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,720 I was doing that they get the old pretty soon if you have nowhere to go right in other words 108 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,600 You weren't flying a helicopter charging people for rides. You were just learning how to fly a helicopter 109 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:17,280 Well, the company was like a fractional ownership company with big luxury twin-engine six-passenger 110 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,960 Jet helicopter, so that was a really nice stuff, but 111 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,900 You know that didn't work out, but then I was so interested. I just you know to buy the time 112 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:29,900 I learned how to fly and then 113 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,920 I was think I'd I want to do some radio stuff and 114 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:41,360 So why don't I just do that on the internet and the remember when internet was sold as always on so it wasn't really fast 115 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,280 But you didn't have to dial in you didn't have to have your modem, right? 116 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Dial in and stuff and so I thought well 117 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,480 Wouldn't and you clicked on something you had to wait for an hour before downloaded right stuff 118 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,320 It start playing immediately 119 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,320 So well, what if I made a program? 120 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:03,080 That was always looking to see if you had made a new show and when there was a new show would download it in the middle 121 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,480 Of the night put it on your and at the time there was something new called the iPod 122 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,760 It would put it on your iPod and then the morning you'd wake up and there would be a new show 123 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,560 And then you wouldn't have to download anything would just be there 124 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:16,880 So you invented that playing you. Yeah, you started a company 125 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,720 Yeah, not the technology behind it, but putting all the things together. Yeah, right and 126 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:28,320 Then and then I called up my bill then what happened was I started getting an audience that was now like, okay 127 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,800 So the company you started did that help other people podcast? Yes. Oh 128 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:39,480 So you got that company now or did you sell that? No, I got that now. Is that worth a lot of money? 129 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,400 well, there's 130 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,360 Depends on what someone would pay for it. We we we got 131 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,880 $49 million invested in it so that my own money and 132 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,760 money from 133 00:09:54,760 --> 00:10:00,040 Actually the Google guys like Kleiner Perkins and Sequoia capital right and about a year 134 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:07,360 Well, almost two years ago. We really turned the corner and it's a profitable successful company and you assist people in podcasting 135 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,160 Hmm 136 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:14,720 Well, like I call it digital broadcasting. It's no longer podcasting. I mean today 137 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:20,520 It's it's on-demand or it's live and yeah, I'm a guy who wants to have a podcast like Adam Corolla was telling us 138 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,240 He has to get bandwidth and all that you you was system with all that 139 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,080 Yeah, although I was listening to do you and Adam and 140 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:34,160 I don't know who someone's fucking him on the bandwidth man. That's 10,000 a month. That's really what he's paying 141 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,920 That's pretty ridiculous. So you could help the guy like him 142 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:43,680 Yeah, but I think your your apprehension with podcasting is you know, you're a radio guy 143 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:47,080 you want to sit there and know that people are listening on the other end and 144 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,800 That's what's happening today. You know, there's a hundred million iPhones. There's 50 million 145 00:10:54,400 --> 00:11:00,000 Android phones. There's blackberries and this is the same. Oh, no, no, no, my apprehension in podcasting isn't 146 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Isn't isn't the technology of it. I think it's really happening 147 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,120 I think it is a part of the future the mix of the future. I think satellite has a place 148 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,360 I think terrestrial have a place, you know, I mean I all this technology is gonna be amazing 149 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,960 My apprehension is that it's very hard to make money with it 150 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:22,440 And that's what Adam's problem is he's doing these broadcasts and he went from being a broadcaster who got paid 151 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,400 To a guy who's now entrepreneurial but can't make a dime 152 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,680 Oh, there's lots of people making money doing it. Of course, none of them are Howard Stern 153 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,840 Right and Adam Corolla is a great guy and he's very funny, but he's not Howard Stern 154 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,720 I think satellite is too small for you. I mean 155 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:45,400 If you went on the internet today if you if that's how people can get Howard Stern and the Howard Stern show 156 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,560 Which is you know, that's right. It's a it's not a show. It's fucking religion 157 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,680 You would make 158 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:56,520 Huge money. Yeah, no, I mean actually people have talked to me about that 159 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,720 They've just they've shown me that there's new technology on the internet now that are just in 160 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,080 All right, so now do you understand how Adam made money? Yes 161 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,680 And then didn't you marry some like superstar and like a Danish superstar singer 162 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:22,320 It Dutch with a we're separated. Oh, yeah, that didn't work out too good. Oh, she's got the castle 163 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:28,080 She got the castle with so you got to pay her half the money that you made. Yeah, she deserves it though 164 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,080 I think have it but can I pitch here? 165 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:33,320 What do you got? 166 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Well, I know your contract come up and what five six months. Yeah 167 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,680 Eight months. Oh, I did talk to my board. Go ahead and then an investor's and 168 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,760 I know it would be a pay cut 169 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,280 But we would guarantee first year one hundred million. Oh 170 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:57,960 Hundred million a year first year. Wow. It's just the first year Howard goes down after that 171 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,960 Okay, let's do it 172 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,680 That sounds real good to me 173 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:13,400 No, you know what though seriously Adam a lot of people have spoken to me about the internet and what's going on 174 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,800 I've had, you know, many meetings about the technology of it and all that and 175 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:23,160 You know, it's not that I you know, I see and I also think satellites fantastic 176 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,840 I don't know, you know, it's and I think satellites can take all its content and put it on the internet as well 177 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,920 So there's gonna be all different distribution. Well, that was really interesting if you look at Sirius 178 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,640 Who by the way are four billion dollars in debt? 179 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:44,240 Which is you know four times the amount it'll take out to bail out the European Union. That's a lot of shekels 180 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,000 They're also making money now 181 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,040 Yeah, okay. Well, they are 182 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:54,680 Yeah, they're making money, but it's it's very expensive to shoot satellites in the space and keep them there 183 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:59,320 And they got to be renewed after after a while, but you can get the Sirius 184 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,880 iPhone app 185 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,960 But the one thing that's not on it is the Howard Stern show and it's really obvious why if 186 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,760 They do that then the illusion is over. They know it. No karma knows it 187 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:19,960 He knows that the distribution is no difference between satellite distribution and internet distribution other than the internet is everywhere 188 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,580 Literally everywhere. Yeah, but not not not that easy to get in cars in your car. No 189 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,440 I mean, I know you can download a podcast and stick your iPhone in the car 190 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:39,120 But with 3g everyone's everything I do a show twice a week just to tell you about making money with podcast 191 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,120 I do a show twice a week 192 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Thursday and Sunday morning and I do it live and it's also available as a podcast. No ads 193 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,360 We'll make it hundreds of thousands of dollars a year people are just sending money 194 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:56,640 They subscribe five dollars a month thirty dollars a month people from Australia send us three thousand dollars here 195 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:01,280 Thank you stay on the air and that that's without even a real subscription model 196 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:07,320 No agenda mom is what the show is called Adam just seems to make money no matter what just comes to what's wrong with us 197 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Robin we know 198 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,320 You know, you always hear about those guys they open their mailbox and their checks in it. Yeah, that's that's that's 199 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,220 Don about this ten years ago. We hung up on me 200 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:26,820 Don't have TV don't don't you would get you in the big the guy with the big blonde hair and MPV 201 00:15:26,820 --> 00:15:30,000 What do you want? He didn't think you knew anything. He was right at the time 202 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,560 But but today this is this is the place where you belong and yeah, I'm sure people talk to you about it all the time 203 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,880 You don't need me although. I'd love to do it 204 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,120 I know I know you you like companies that have 205 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:47,400 Infrastructure and money and lawyers and people who do stuff right, but they could it could easily be done easily 206 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,560 And you would look there is only one Howard Stern who can really do this and you would check 207 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,560 I think you would change 208 00:15:54,560 --> 00:16:00,440 behavioral patterns around the world it would be a game changer Wow. Yeah for sure for sure 209 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,800 Hold this gentleman's phone number 210 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:09,000 Put this one in my roller deck. Hey, Adam. I'm glad you're doing well. You've answered all our questions 211 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,840 Yeah, it's really good to talk to you 212 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:16,480 And um, yeah, and I'm glad you're doing well aside from the divorce, but I'm sure you're back in the saddle dating 213 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,760 I've got a beautiful beautiful girlfriend. I'm no kidding. How old? 214 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,960 She's 39. How old are you now? 215 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:30,720 45 almost 46. That's kind of a little too close in age. Don't think well my ex-wife was just turned 216 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:37,680 61 oh your ex-wife was older. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, who does that? Adam? 217 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:45,080 What a renegade. He's off the charts. He always does the thing nobody else is thinking. I was about to go into business with him 218 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,080 And then I found that he married an older woman 219 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Well you held in for a while though with the older woman that he certainly put in your time 220 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,320 Yeah, I had one of those like wake-up moments after 20 years 221 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:08,980 What do you mean? I met Mickey. I was like, oh wow, this is what it's supposed to be, right? Well. Hey, listen, man game-changer 222 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,920 We're talking about a lot of changes in the game. Everybody's game is changing. All right 223 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,680 I'm now I know how to describe to Robin how you make money. I mean, yeah 224 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:24,780 We do with ads and subscriptions and just like satellite only it's bigger and it's where I'd love to see Howard Stern be 225 00:17:24,780 --> 00:17:29,640 Whether you work with me or someone else. I think you should really consider it. All right, Adam. Thanks 226 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:37,200 The great Adam Curry who wisely left MTV and made like hundreds of millions of dollars and now has to give up half 227 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,480 But he didn't care 228 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,440 Get some more. He's gonna make it again. He can do it. He could do it 229 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,360 And I'm not going to business together. We're both gonna be rolling in it. That's right. That's why he's on the phone 230 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:50,200 That's it. Hey Adam. Thanks. All right. Good. Anything I could promote 231 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:56,340 Yeah, no agenda show calm in the morning is my show Thursdays and Sundays 232 00:17:57,260 --> 00:18:02,980 No agenda calm no agenda show calm. No agenda show. We're gonna run. All right. Hey, thanks, Adam 233 00:18:03,620 --> 00:18:05,620 Appreciate it. I Robin. Bye. Bye 234 00:18:06,660 --> 00:18:11,380 Hear that we're getting a hundred million a year. I like Adam's math 235 00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:15,860 It's already done. No negotiation 236 00:18:16,940 --> 00:18:21,300 Unless you want more, of course, I got to pay Fred as usual $10,000 237 00:18:23,180 --> 00:18:25,180 So it's not quite a hundred million 238 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:34,420 You know when there's Benji salary, I think when all's said and done I could clear 239 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:37,220 Hmm 99% of that 240 00:18:40,140 --> 00:18:44,340 Wow we well, there you go now I am 241 00:18:46,780 --> 00:18:51,260 Now I know what I know you didn't ask him how much time you had to put it. Oh 242 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:57,220 Yeah, right. How much vacation we get right? Well, it sounds like we could do two shows a week 243 00:18:57,220 --> 00:19:01,620 That's what I'm saying if that's the case. Yeah, well, I didn't know how seriously to take his offer 244 00:19:02,260 --> 00:19:08,620 He's telling me two shows a week and a hundred million for a year guaranteed. I think I'm in I'm pretty sure there's no downside to that 245 00:19:09,300 --> 00:19:11,300 We'll broadcast out of my house. I 246 00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:14,380 Don't care 247 00:19:14,380 --> 00:19:19,700 What do you think of that? I would do that two shows a week Sunday and Thursday sure and a hundred million 248 00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:25,380 Pick your days. I'm sure. Yeah, sounds like anything goes in the Wild West of a podcast. That's right 249 00:19:26,060 --> 00:19:29,100 Whereas Adam and I say digital broadcasting. Yes 250 00:19:32,660 --> 00:19:35,460 Yeah, that this might be my answer I 251 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:40,500 Don't curry's my guy listen to him. I mean that was funny that he's 252 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:44,380 Said 20 years ago. You told him he was crazy 253 00:19:44,940 --> 00:19:46,620 I 254 00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:50,580 Probably went out and made a huge success of himself as a result. Yep 255 00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:56,300 Yeah, I think I yelled at him because I was quitting MTV 256 00:19:56,300 --> 00:20:01,140 I was over at MTV and he didn't say hello to me. Oh really and he was a big fan 257 00:20:01,140 --> 00:20:05,540 I didn't know it. He was just kind of shy and didn't feel you know worthy kind of thing and 258 00:20:05,980 --> 00:20:11,180 Turned out that I'm on the air calling them, you know real stuck up and this and then he goes. Oh my god 259 00:20:11,180 --> 00:20:13,180 I'm such a hero is 260 00:20:14,460 --> 00:20:16,460 Blasting him no good 261 00:20:16,460 --> 00:20:18,460 Teach him to not say hello 262 00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:21,500 See then he started saying hello to people he made connections and he became a big success 263 00:20:21,860 --> 00:20:29,300 You're the result. I'm the result. It's all you know, you seem like a real nice guy. Yeah, every time we've spoken with him 20 years ago 264 00:20:33,180 --> 00:20:35,180 I thought we had spoken at him 265 00:20:35,820 --> 00:20:37,820 But he says no 266 00:20:38,460 --> 00:20:40,460 So here's what I learned from the conversation 267 00:20:41,180 --> 00:20:45,660 Early on he was really into the internet. Yes, and God MTV calm 268 00:20:45,980 --> 00:20:48,020 Yeah, but he did make his money off of that 269 00:20:48,020 --> 00:20:50,020 But what he did was he started to make 270 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:54,660 Websites and develop websites for people especially early on the big companies didn't know anything about it 271 00:20:54,660 --> 00:21:00,580 So they hired him and like and listen to the list of companies had you know get all the biggies Reebok Bud 272 00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:08,500 Yeah, and then mental so he put them on and company became valuable and he sold it for the potential of the company 273 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,360 I guess someone saw it and give him 450 million bucks, but 274 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:16,860 Turns out he didn't even get like 50 million of that when you hear 450 million if you're gonna make a partner 275 00:21:16,860 --> 00:21:22,620 He split it right so but it seems like he's done pretty well for himself. So now we understand he didn't make his money in podcast 276 00:21:22,620 --> 00:21:26,100 Yeah, I don't know how it became that the money came from podcast 277 00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:30,900 I don't even know why we're so concerned about how he made a living, but we definitely didn't want it to be from podcast 278 00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:32,900 That's right. It was upsetting 279 00:21:33,380 --> 00:21:35,580 Really have this guy make money off of podcast 280 00:21:36,580 --> 00:21:40,780 Although according to him people send him $3,000 just to get him on the air 281 00:21:40,780 --> 00:21:44,100 It sounds like they don't even charge anything people just send the money. Yeah 282 00:21:46,540 --> 00:21:49,900 Yeah, why don't you people just send your money directly to me and stop sending it to Syria 283 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:51,900 I think that's what we're talking about here 284 00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:56,020 That sounds pretty good. I think people would feel much better about that. Yeah 285 00:21:57,140 --> 00:22:01,340 Quite frankly, I feel better about that. I think you get it for cheaper. I mean, you know, yeah 286 00:22:01,340 --> 00:22:07,980 I might give you a sale. What is it? What is it cost to have serious like what 12 13 bucks a month? Yeah, I'm willing to give it to you for 287 00:22:07,980 --> 00:22:09,980 nine 288 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:15,940 I'll go to my house on broadcast for nine bucks a month. You'll get your subscription. Oh 289 00:22:17,540 --> 00:22:18,780 Man 290 00:22:18,780 --> 00:22:21,500 Anyway, all right, so that's Adam Curry 291 00:22:22,020 --> 00:22:26,140 You're a game changer. I'm a game. Just remember that. Well, I guess you are too then 292 00:22:27,060 --> 00:22:29,060 We're a team so 293 00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:32,420 If you want to change the game, that's right. All right, listen, let me take a break 294 00:22:32,420 --> 00:22:36,540 We'll come back. I got a whole bunch of stuff to do also Lewis Blacks gonna stop by and say hi to us 295 00:22:36,540 --> 00:22:38,540 I haven't talked to him in a while. Yeah