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I'm not gonna have to do it in
the evening, good morning,
wherever you happen to be
listening to this more rather
than the source code.

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Let's go to the list.

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home as a framist of my web
world. Even though it's been
really crazy.

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to record a source code. And in
this case, I'm joined by a
guest, although he'll only

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be a minor participant in the
story. His name is Taxi Eric.
He's my regular wheelman.

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And besides being good buddy,
he's also kind of like a gypsy
ring, wherever I'm stuck.

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Whatever problem I'm in, I give
McCall and he'll come and bail
me out if necessary.

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So let me just explain what...

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from the car right now we're
doing about what are we doing
Eric 150 kilometers now we're
coming

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from the northern part of the
Netherlands in the province of
Croningen which is near the city
of

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Croningen which is a big college
town and what else they do there
yeah they suck natural gas out

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of mother earth that's what they
do in Croningen and it's quite a
drive from my house it's
actually

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yeah oh boy what is 175 miles
and I drove halfway up to

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So, how are we going?

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I go home and drive over.

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He jumped in my car, left his
cab waiting with the meter
running.

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With the meter running.

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Because I had some business to
do today as you probably
remember.

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Yes, there was my last morning
radio show for Radio Veronica.

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It was crazy.

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a lot of driving in between.

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And today is the start of my new
life, new life day one,

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everybody.

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And that means that we're
starting to wind things down

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and get things prepared for our
move, our pending move

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to the UK.

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So the good news is there's the
House of Belgium

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is sold.

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That happened just last week.

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So we're all pretty pumped about
that.

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So now we're going to start
looking for something in the UK,

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probably in the Surrey or Kent
region, which is South of
London.

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And so one of the things I
promised myself, let's see,

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about four years ago, I noticed
in Amsterdam

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that the trauma helicopters,
which are here, they're yellow,

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which some bad happens.

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You're going to be real happy to
see one of these guys

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to pick up and take you to the
hospital.

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That they were operating in a
very difficult rooftop situation

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on top of the hospital.

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And that they were actually
doing all the servicing

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and their fueling at Svipol
Airport, which

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are equivalent of JFK or any
major league airport.

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It's a really big hub for...

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for the rest of Europe.

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Which is very costly because it
doesn't matter if you're a
trauma helicopter or your

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to pay the same amount of money.

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about I think two hundred.

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they can carry more people in
the...

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said, hey, that's not not right.

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And being in the aviation
myself, I said, well, why don't
we get a heliport where they

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can land nearby and we'll
operate that.

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We'll let these guys fuel up and
we'll make it $40 instead of
$200.

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Now you have to know that the
Netherlands doesn't have a large
aviation history when it comes

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to local aviation.

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And it was very difficult.

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Many people have tried to get a
heliport known as ever
succeeded.

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It took me almost four years of
going through city councils,
different versions of them,

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you know, people leave after a
while.

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And finally I got all the
paperwork.

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self-appartner, Helle Holland,
which is probably the only real
helicopter coming to talk to.

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And they'll start exploring the
heliport probably before the end
of this year.

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So they've been to visit me
several times their main
offices.

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It's all done with fitting that
for this particular case
nightclub see their facility

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and hang out.

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7.25 pm, by the way, this is
Monday, September 1st.

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And we're on our way back.

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Eric is going to drop me off
around the middle of the
Netherlands in Aden.

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Wednesday today. What did I say?
Monday. Okay, so maybe I should
not smoke any more this joint.

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Okay, it's Wednesday, September
1st. Thank you very much.

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So just briefly about the radio
show yesterday because it was
kind of fun and I posted a link,

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certainly NSFW to what happened
during the last show, the
management. No, not my
colleagues,

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but the actual management of the
station felt that after a year
because it was just a year that
I promised

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to do the show of basically
being silly and giggling about
women all morning long, it was
time to send

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me a really good stripper and
that was jeweled parrots. What
do you think? She was very good
looking.

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So and despite the fact that it
was radio, it kind of worked.
She came in as she said,

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she was the cleaner and then oh
boy, it's warm in here. I never
seen a cleaner with high white

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boots though. That was kind of a
giveaway.

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I want to talk to you about a
couple other things.

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There's so much that I need to
discuss, but I just haven't had
the time.

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There's so many different audio
bits I want to let you listen
to.

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I've been picking up blog posts.

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I've been picking up people who
are starting to enclose their
posts in RS2.0 feeds within

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closures.

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I got a beautiful long email
from Dave Slusher from
evilgeniuskronicles.org, which I
really haven't

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had a chance to parse properly.

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But it was definitely a hey
neighbor.

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How you doing?

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Why don't we get acquainted
note?

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I'm really happy about that.

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Because this is source code
where users and developers party
together.

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That's my entire mission.

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And currently we're working on
the iPod platform.

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Anyone I don't know if Dave
Slusher is a user or a
developer, and I think it's fine
to be

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both.

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way heavier on one side or the
other. I'm trying to beef up my
developer or I guess

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system integration competency so
I can do more modeling and
developing and prototyping

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of what I want my computer to do
and the different bits that are
already in there that we

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just need to connect to each
other. So the iPod platform
which we've been talking about

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for quite a while is picked up
some steam rather quickly thanks
to an article from the

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inquire inquire not the inquire
but the inquire which is
publication owned by the
register.

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And the piece was written I
don't have it with me actually
here but it was written by

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Doug Moni and it was it was a
title of the piece it was great
MP3 fodder with iPodder

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and it was a very very
flattering piece basically
saying hey here's something new
and I think

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what Doug did was really
important he put into plain well
written English words.

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what we're trying to achieve
with this and I've pointed to it
on my web blog.

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Please check it out so you can
find the link at live.curry.com

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and you can see if you're not
quite sure what we're talking
about here or

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where this should go, Doug
explains it perfectly.

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And I do know Doug from many
years ago

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and only opportunity to let you
know about that now

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since he's writing about me.
There's some history between us

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because back in 1983 I was
working at

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I'm sorry, not A3, 93, 92, 93. I
was working at MTV

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had already been doing a lot of
online stuff with America
online.

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Then before then it was what was
it? It was Vienna,

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Vienna online or Quanto.
Anyways, all the online services
had finally gotten myself

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in Panics.net in New York was
distributing my,

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what I then called, cyberslees,
which was kind of gossip news

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through my .pland file, which
meant you had to finger

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my Panics account and upper pop
the day's news

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in the form of a .pland file.

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This was before Web, but in fact
we only had something

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called Go for them, which is
very much hyperlinked

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like Structron, it was all text
based,

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and basically worked best on a
Unix terminal

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with your arrow keys to follow a
link to the next server,

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but it certainly was nothing
quite like

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the worldwide web that we know
today.

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And so I got in trouble,
apparently,

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that was my first experience
with terms of use

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and Panics shut me off, you
know,

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and like, who did I think I was?

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Of course I was this commercial
dude trying to turn the internet

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into a,

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and no more access for you, and
certainly not for doing this
kind of stuff, because it

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overtaxed their servers.

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And then I keep quite remember
how I met the guys at digx.net,
which were in Reston, Virginia.

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I think it was Reston.

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It was in Virginia, definitely.

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Bolt or more, oh shit, well,
Doug will kill me that I don't,
and there's two dogs who will
kill me that I don't know, and
RS as well, and several people.

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Because these guys were just a
bunch of, really a bunch of
data...

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If you are a bokeh, you are a
bokeh.

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Ah, okay, that's...

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um...

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it's starting out to be pretty
strange show

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uh... so anyway we got into it i
think i saw an ad for the uh...
somewhere that

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you could uh... buy a uh...
server space

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for tea i think it was uh...

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it was. And so I got a sun three
card with maybe it was 40 or 50
megs of this space at

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the time. Just go crazy on and
that's actually when we
registered MTV.com. They said,

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you know, you can have an IP
address or you could register it
to something.

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That's, I don't think that's
that important anymore, but at
the time,

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certainly for brand like MTV,
you know.

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too and of course that was all
done.

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That's why I hooked up with DJX
and these guys were there along
along

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And Doug, I think, I don't
believe he was there in the
beginning and he was already
doing

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PR stuff.

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But these guys were a hoot.

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They were originally boogah,
boogah.

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they are that they, um,

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Florida outfit, man, I'm
horrible at this.

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Anyway, I think they all did
okay,

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didn't they made some money and
we all like each other still.

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So it was nice that the duck
picked up on that,

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but he's always been falling
what I've been doing

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so that it's really...

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And tomorrow we have a photo
shoot.

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My wife is doing a photo shoot
at the castle,

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but I'm going to be home all
day, which will be nice.

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I get to sleep in a little bit,
which I try to do this morning,

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but still a work at six.

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Still in the rhythm of the 330
wake up call.

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And I'll be able to do some
proper preparations on the
source

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code, because there's so much
happening,

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and there's so many ideas.

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And it was great to hear the
duck K of IT conversations

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platform thing and I'm now
getting more questions from
people like Taxi Eric. I just
want to plug in their MP3
device. I don't know when iPod
is my dumb

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something that she plays music
on and she hooks it up to the
computer and I said,

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well, you know, I explained that
now we could make it so you just
hook it up to

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the computer for it to charge
and we pick up in the morning
you've got all your

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new shows. Which would be what
shows would you like to hear
Eric if you had to

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listen to anything and it could
be produced anywhere it could be
anything you

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wanted or kind of...

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Do me music or just also
anything you want if you want to
be talk or music or in the
morning

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I want to have some information
I want to hear some news about
last night. I want to have some
news

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to happen today and I want to
know something about the
traffic, I want to know
something

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about the weather.

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What kind of things, you know?

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So, that's really, you can hear
now immediately how
community-based a radio show is.

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He really wants to know what's
going on in his world and he's a
cab driver, so what does

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he want to do?

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like it's that simple.

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You just have to find your
community.

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It's just like web logs.

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Only it does.

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learning curve, but maybe not
even.

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If you look at a lot of weblog
software,

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there's sometimes there's a
learning curve

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you're for that.

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And with audio blogging, it'll
be the same.

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And I'm definitely going to
delve back into what kind

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of software we need to do this
kind of audio blogging

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on the desktop, which has
infinitely more capabilities

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and possibilities right now for
what you can do with audio

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versus an audio blogging service
where you call up

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the phone or where you drop a,
you know,

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where it takes over your your
internal microphone

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and records it for you.

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There's a lot to be said for
that.

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But the feature said that you
can do on the desktop

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is infinitely more rich, I
think.

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All right, quick break now
because I got a couple more
things

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to say after I'm done.

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This is something I picked up.

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um, the came from and see what
feed it is.

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the blog digger.

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from their NP3 feeds.

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I'll link to the original source
from this, although it was kind
of funny how they start

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off and start ragging on the
fact that you're not doubtful on
to get from the original source

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but you're hearing it somewhere.

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It's a nice, it's a fine tune
that I like because it speaks to
both sides of our party

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to the users and the developers.

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Check out every OS sucks.

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Well, hi there.

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Thank you for downloading
another fine quality comedy
product from 3Dedrals and a
Peggy

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and your friends at MP3.com.

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Good for you.

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Of course, if you've downloaded
this from Napster, screw you.

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You know what, free isn't good
enough for you?

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You gotta rip us off.

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That's okay.

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I will find you and I will kill
you.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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You see, I come from a time in
the 1970s when computers were
used for two things.

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play pong. Nothing in between,
you see. You didn't need a fancy
operating system to play

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pong, and the men who went to
the Moon God bless him did it
with no mouse, and a plain text

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only black and white screen and
32 kilobytes of brown. But then
around both the late 70s

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home computers started to do a
little more than play pong. Very
little horn.

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Why computer started to play
games? Balance checkbooks? Why
you could play a saxon on your
Apple

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2 or write a book all with a
computer that had 32 kilobytes
of RAM. Was enough to go to the
Moon?

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It was enough for you. It was a
golden time. A time before
windows. A time before mouses. A
time

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before the internet and
bloatware and a time before
every OS sucked.

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Oh man.

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the olden times make them.

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I'd laugh and play all night and
day on Sork 1, 2 and 3.

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The Amiga Vic 20 in the Sinclair
2, the TRS 80 and the Apple 2.

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it was a much, but it was
enough. But then Xerox made a
prototype. Steve Jobs came on
the scene,

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red of mice and menus, windows,
icons, a trash and a bit...

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TV said to Xerox, boys turn your
heads and cough.

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When no one was looking to rip
their interfaces up, stole every
feature they had seen put

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it in a cute box with a tiny
little screen.

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Mac OS 1 ran that machine, only
cost 5,000 bucks.

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But it was slow, it was buggy,
so they wrote it again, and now
they're up to OS 10, they'll

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charge it for the base...

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Every OS waste your time, you're
the best top to the lap.

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Everything since Apple does,
just a bunch of crap.

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From Microsoft and Macintosh to
LinLine and Linux.

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Every computer crashes, because
every OS sucks.

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Well then Microsoft jumped in
the game, copied Apple's
interface with an OS named
Windows.

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rose and rose. Then Windows 95,
then 98, man, solitaire never
ran so great and every single

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version came out late, but I
guess that's the way it goes.
But that bloatware will crash

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and delete your work in TME,
man. None of them work, but
gates may be Richard and Captain

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Kirk. But the Windows OS blows
and sucks at that same time.
I've treated in here right for

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what? It's top of the line from
the CompuHut, the fridge stove
and toaster, never crash on

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me. I should be able to get on
live without a Ph.D. My phone
doesn't take a week to

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glue it, but TV doesn't crash
when I'm muted. A mishasket text
in my floppy drive, I wish

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that it was still alive. But it
ain't the hardware, man. It's
just that every OS.

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Now there's Lennox or Lennox, I
don't know how you say it or how
you install it or use it or play
it or

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where you download it or what
programs run, but Lennox or
Lennox don't...

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Before you say it, it's getting
great press though, how it
survives if anyone's gas

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in me asked me to great big mess
for a leotist nerdy schmucks.

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It's free they say if you can
get it to run, the geek say hey,
that's half the fun yeah,

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but I got a girlfriend and
things to get done.

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The Linux OS sucks.

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I'm sorry to say it, but it
dies.

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Every OS waste your time from
the desktop to the laptop.

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Everything since the abacus,
just a bunch of crap.

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Cause every OS sucks, every
computer crashes it

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Cause every OS...

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beautiful every OS sucks and
that drives right to the heart
of what we're talking about

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That's something that both users
and developers know but explain
both from a different vantage
point

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users know that every OS sucks
because

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Every OS crashes even XP. Oh
even OS 10 something always will
suck eventually

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Every developer knows that every
OS sucks because well they deal
with it every single day

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And there's always bits that
suck in there and something I've
heard Dave went what Dave Winer
say

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probably read him say hey

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That all software sucks all
software is buggy and it's
absolutely true now that I've
been putting my own stuff
together

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I know what the mistakes are in
in iPodder. I know what's wrong

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I know it should be working
differently and until you really
dig into the code you won't know

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But you'll encounter it you'll
find say hey that's strange.
Why's it doing that?

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It may not come back. He might
trip over it something might
replicate but there's bugs in
there

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Shit, we were just booting up
the in-cart navigation. I might
Audi A8

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But you think I paid enough
fucking mula for it to

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For it all work the same thing
is just it was rebooting and
then finally caught and
everything worked

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So I'm gonna wind up a source
code for today. Just one do a
little plug for taxi Eric
because

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Well, that's part of how this
kind of stuff works

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You know, we've got a little
individual part of deals
happening. I'm getting a
discount on this ride right baby

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So if you're if you ever come to
Amsterdam and you need

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Someone to wheel you around town
at a good price and comfortable
car. He's got a Mercedes

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CD elegance okay, 800 the from
the elegant series

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And he's very clean and very
he's very sweet boy

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But actually

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Just fun to just talk about
taxes for a second in Amsterdam

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Many many years ago there was
basically a monopoly the taxi
you get a correct correct me if
I'm wrong

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Eric on this the TCA the the
taxi central

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I'm so they they basically had
all the medallions and

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You couldn't really compete with
them, but there were some guys

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Because you had to buy a
medallion because what a
medallion cost back the day

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These days was 100,000

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Guilders for only one-third of
but one-third of a medallion so
three guys

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Together would pay 300,000
guilders at the time was about a
hundred and fifty thousand
dollars

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Okay, so for one medallion to be
split up by three guys

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So you could do that you could
because the monopoly

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And but of course it was

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And they had the radio
transmitting system and could
dispatch cars etc and

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So some guys said you know screw
it will just be independence and
you could they could wait by a
could you wait by a phone?

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By a call phone or you had your
own clients or own clients
mobile phone

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Telephone everything you know,
okay and

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But that of course took a major
investment on these guys' part,
you know,

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going with about 40 or 50
thousand dollars, basically by
your one-third mind you of a
medallion.

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So these cars, of course,
were... it would always be on
one car. Eric? No, it could just
be three cars.

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It was three guys, so it was all
the way 24 hours a day. Okay, so
then yeah, three guys running on

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one medallion. So we had little
micro pockets that started to
pop up. And what really,

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boom for these guys was really
the introduction of GSM mobile
telephony. Because now you had

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these groups of guys who each
had their own customers, you
know, once you wind up with
someone,

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they hand you a business card
and hey, can I call you again
here? It's my cell phone number,

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call me. And they started
connecting these networks
together. So if you're in a town
like Amsterdam

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and you know, you don't just
know your two other colleagues
on the medallion, you know,
maybe 50

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guys and all kinds of other
groups. So what they do is if
they could...

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make a client run themselves
they call up one of their
buddies uh... because

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you know that's not just spoke
to uh... to keep

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and people's over its triple
airport so maybe he's done all
call him up so

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they have this all mapped out in
their head and they have all
these

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really appreciate it when you
see it and the phone calls just
keep flying all the time.

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And he calls someone else and he
pick it up and then they'd hook
him up later on.

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So it was a total barter system.

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And some guys got a little bit
smarter and we're charged guys
to give them work.

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So that kind of coupled along
for a while.

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But then the city of Amsterdam
did something very interesting.

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And this day don't know why.

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They said, you know what, we're
going to change the rules.

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No longer is there a limited
amount of medallions.

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We can start a taxi company.

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All you have to do is pass the
test.

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Well, you could only imagine
that this brought in a lot of
really bad drivers.

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What?

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Bad cars also.

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Everything, bad drivers, bad
cars.

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They didn't know the way.

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They didn't know how to speak.

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They didn't know how to open the
door, open the truck.

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What's just shit?

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Now besides that, you had a
whole bunch of guys sitting
around who would invest at
$50,000.

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And you know, within the day
before two, a couple of years
before, who were going to...

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pay that off probably for the
rest of their professional
career just as a part of the

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cost of doing. And these guys,
yeah they got fucked basically.

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So if you're lucky you can still
get for the same, but you did
pay 40,000 euros, I say

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you're rose. Yeah. Now maybe you
get, if you're lucky you get
two, maybe two and a half

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tasks. For that same medallion.
For the same number.

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Okay, so, and that really
stirred up a whole bunch of shit
in the cab world. And so now

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the free, actually I think,
although it sounds really
shitty, I think it's, I think
it's

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actually very good because the
free market at work, you see
what's happening. You see

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the people who have hooked up
with someone that they like and
they appreciate and they're

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willing to pay for a courtesy
and service and a clean car. Now
they pay a little bit more

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and they, and they get a really
good deal.

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to our, uh, yeah.

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again it's not just for a cat.

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yeah i'm gonna drive away as
fast as possible

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all right so if you're coming to
Amsterdam

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let me know send me an email out
of it career dot com

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all the up with the taxi Eric

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this is the source code we still
have, what do we have?

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But we've got 45 minutes until
we hit, until we hit
Hillversome.

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You know what we'll do?

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We'll try and upload this at a
hotspot at a Wi-Fi point.

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We get to Hillversome, so we can
get it up to the server then.

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And then by the time I get home,
I already have responses to it.

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It's a wonderful thing.

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And tomorrow, of course, we'll
go in depth a little bit more
about the iPod platform and

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the latest updates and recent
happenings around iPodder.

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And hopefully some more cool
bits from stuff that we've been
thinking up around the

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net because we are definitely
making some stuff happen here.

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Until then, I'm Adam Curry.

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If again, if you want to react,
Adam and Curry.

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Oh my God