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Thank you for watching.

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Well good afternoon from Curry
Castle in Belgium or good
evening or good morning.

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Monday, September 13th, 2004,
I'm Adam Curry and great to have
you aboard.

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We've got a lot of cool stuff to
talk about today on the source
code.

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Of course, iPodder also want to
talk about programs.

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I'm thinking of a new program
myself that I want to put
together, stuff that we need

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to make these programs doable on
our computers.

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Of course, I've got a song of
the day, a little bit of geek
talk, and I also have

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a comedy clip that I want to
play for you today, so lots to
get to.

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This is the place where users
and developers party together.

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At least we try to.

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In fact, I was thinking about
this.

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Imagine if we could actually
harness the power of all the
developers in the world.

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And so many people are actually
developers by scripting
applications,

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putting stuff together.

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And I've seen in the past couple
of days just looking at
conversations going

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back and forth between iPodder
developers that we really seem
to get along

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on common ground.

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Imagine if we could have a
campaign like developers for
carry.

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or developers against Bush.

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You know, there's a lot of power
in what developers could do.

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Of course, we'd have to be
incentivized as developers,

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and, you know, so there'd have
to be some campaign promises.

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Like, well, actually, I set up a
conversation I had

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with Dave Weiner this morning.

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Free pizza might be, or free
beer might even be enough
incentive

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for us to get us to vote.

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Unfortunately, that apparently
is illegal.

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So I want to talk about iPod a
bit.

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We got a mailing list set up.

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I did that at Yahoo Groups,

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and I pointed it out on my web
blog on live.curry.com.

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There's one thing I'm going to
be hammering on the mail list.

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And, of course, I want to see
how everything starts up

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and what people are talking
about.

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Everyone's starting to introduce
themselves now on the list.

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It's installers.

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We need to really work on our
installers.

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We've got all these different
versions of iPod

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that work with Windows and iPods
and other MP3 devices

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that can sync up to Windows
Media Player.

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So we've got everything going.

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It's just that there's still too
much work for users.

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It should just be double-click.

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There's a screen.

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screen that says, going to
install this, you know, here's
how you get rid of it if you

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want to.

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And maybe one or two questions
about some default feeds.

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And that should be it.

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It should be no more.

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And boom, it's gone.

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They can forget it.

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We got it.

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Cron jobs are running.

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Everything happens instantly.

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That's something we really got
to work on.

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I've also noticed that running
iPodder, and I know I talked
about this before on

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source code, that I'm really
using my iTunes almost like an
email client now, where, you

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know, a couple of times a day, I
have my email client sent to
pick up mail every 15 minutes

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because I quite frankly, I just
don't want to be bothered any
more frequently than that.

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I used to have it set to one
minute, you know, when I was
thinking of ideas or public

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company that I co-founded.

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And that was crazy.

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You have no life.

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And even though I know that the
iPodder runs only four times in
a 24-hour period, I've kind

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of deprogrammed those times.

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I don't exactly remember when.

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So that...

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I'm surprised.

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It's the serendipity that I'm
looking for where I just pop up
iTunes and look at the

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top of the library list.

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Oh, yep, there it is.

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There's something new and click
on it.

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And usually it's a blog digger
media file which is hilarious
and I've picked up some

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great things in the past couple
of days over the weekend.

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So just interesting to see that
I'm really using iTunes a lot
more than I ever did

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and that's really, it's a joyous
experience every single time.

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You know, is there something
new?

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Is there maybe a new Morning
Coffee Nodes or is there a new
Gilmore Gang?

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By the way, I gotta tell you, I
actually started to debug my
iPodder because I

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didn't get a new Gilmore Gang on
Saturday.

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Usually I get Friday show,
sometimes Saturday morning when
I get up and it's

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already sitting there for me and
I was like, oh shit, something
must have gone wrong.

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So I'm checking the log files
and I'm looking at all kinds of
places and

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seeing if something went wrong
with the iTunes transfer and
then I went to the site

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and I saw that, well, there
actually was no update, no
Gilmore Gang and I'm bummed.

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You know, this is...

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Actually, I should say, and I
hope Doug Kay listens, or that
he does listen once in a while

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to the source code, is that,
man, you got to let us know.

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That's like death for radio and
audio programming, skipping a
show without a reason.

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Especially in this space, the
iPod platform space, IPS, is
deadly because you have no way

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to promote.

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It's television if an episode is
preempted.

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then you can promote that
continuously and people know
about it but there's no way to
tell people.

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And if you don't have it on the
weblog, just see this as a
complaint.

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I'm bummed. I like that Gilmore
Gang.

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There's an excellent format for
what we're doing here with iPods
and other MP3 devices.

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And we'll also have to start
looking at publishing tools
fairly soon

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because we're going to get bored
of the same shows over and over
again

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even though there's new stuff.

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We need some variation and we
need to help people enable their
RSS feeds

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or just get RSS feeds out there
so that they can start
publishing stuff.

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And we have to make it the exact
same simplicity that we've done
on the receiving end with iPod

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so we need to figure out ways
that people really have to do
nothing

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to get their RSS feed with
enclosures out there

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so that any iPod or enabled
device can grab it, download it
automatically by subscription.

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I've been talking to a couple
people about this on email and
phone conversations.

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Something came in which I
thought was pretty cool was a
Python screen scraper script.

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I'm going to have to link to
that where if you basically
publish an HTML page with links

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to MP3 files, it'll create an
RSS 2.0 with enclosures file of
that page.

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But of course that's not really,
you know, I don't think it's a
very elegant way of

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doing things because I'd rather
have stuff that's archived
properly and hold on

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a second, sounds like my wife is
coming home. One sec, let me
just see.

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Someone's certainly coming home.

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Okay.

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The dogs go crazy.

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Alright, let me get back here.

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Now Andrew Groomit. Is that the
way you pronounce it, Andrew?

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He sent me an email about
something he just posted which
is a small Python script

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called DER 2 RSS.

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So basically you drop this into
a directory somewhere on your
hard drive, which is in

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your web server's documents
path, which means you can access
it on your local drive, but

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it is also accessible through a
web browser.

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And you fire up that script, and
in the folder it creates a
little file called rss.xml, and

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in that is the contents of that
folder with some information
that you said that you preset.

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Like the name of your channel
and the number of entries you
want to contain.

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And it will maintain that file.

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So every single time you add
something to it, if it's a watch
folder that script

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should run automatically or you
just run the script and you've
got it, and

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then any web server can access
that file.

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Now you'd really want to run
that on a server somewhere, and

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I think then we get into some
complicated territory where it
should be just

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an application that is as simple
as give me an address of either
your web

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log so we can hopefully take
care of it through a web log.

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the blogger API or even better
the meta web blog API or give me
an FTP server and

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I'll drop the file there and
then of course after I've
dropped that file there

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I'm going to ping web blogs comm
or something like that to let
the world

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know that the feed is has
updated and I was talking to
Dave this morning as it

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was how it's actually
interesting was this morning for
me last night for him

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because he's in Seattle now and
he said that I had actually come
up with a

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solution or figured it out and
as he said that I was thinking
did I think of

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that or I couldn't remember but
anyway what he said was right
it's exactly the

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opposite of what we're doing
with the RSS files creating
playlists from the

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channel information oh hold on
hi hon yeah

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yeah these both that was her who
came home

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right so about so that's on the
receiving end where we basically
on the iPod or

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unpa...

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the RSS feed and from that
information that's in there
creates folders to store the
files,

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creates a playlist, etc. What
you want to do is you want to
make it so simple that if
someone

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creates an mp3 file, all they
need to do is really edit the
ID3 tags because that'll give
you

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all the information you need to
create an RSS file out of that.
And there's many ways it

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can be done. There's even a
command line tool that I've seen
for changing ID3 tags that you

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can attach to a watch folder. I
mean I think somewhere in there
is the way to do it. And

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people who are interested in
publishing something will
certainly already be familiar
with the

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concept of ID3 tags and editing
those. So this will just be a
little button next to it which

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says publish and then it's going
to FTP your RSS file to an FTP
server that a web server can

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access and also FTP your mp3
file up and that should be it.
It should work.

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as simple as that and I'm going
to of course try and bake up one
of my own versions.

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Alright, that's enough for iPod.
Let's talk about programs, shows
like this for a second.

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I've gotten quite a bit of email
questions about the legality of
me playing music on

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the source.

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which is, you know, all right,
sue me.

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You know, who's losing in this
game

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and how much of a thief am I in
this particular case?

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And of course I'd be more than
happy

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if I were to make money on any
kind of program,

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just like all broadcast radio
stations do,

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you give a percentage, usually
between two and 6%,

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to ASCAP, VMI, and a couple of
other foreign agencies.

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They'll be happy to do business
with us,

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but right now, you know, we're
not really stealing anything,

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just enjoying some old tunes now
and again.

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And what's interesting about it
is that everyone talks about,

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oh, well, you're playing this
song, you're playing that song,

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but not once has someone said,
well,

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how about that tune that you
played?

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code which is the Rachmaninoff
Burris remix here I'll play it
for you for a second.

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This one.

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You know why?

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It's because we're not
conditioned to think that way
and if playing Kiss I was made
for

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loving you was stealing then
this is stealing just the same.

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This is probably already a remix
of someone who took stuff from
someone else that was

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originally composed by
Rachmaninoff.

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There's a whole bunch of aspects
to look at and I think this is
sounding pretty loud here.

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Oh

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One, two, three, four.

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Okay, well...

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Another big note to self.

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Gotta check the batteries before
each show. This is the second
time this has happened to me.
This drives me crazy.

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You know what? I have another
battery. So why don't you bear
with me here?

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I'll have to feed back now. If
you want to then you can just
fast forward this piece of the

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program.

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I took the old battery out. It's
on the receiving end of the
wireless set that I have.

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So I like about doing this on a
Mac, because this is all like
hot swappable.

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You can do this on the fly.

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And now I should be able to
switch back to the...

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There we go.

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To the better microphone.

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Okay.

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Now of course you know that my
mic battery is going to go.

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Or what I'll do is when I get to
the song of the day, I'll change
that one just to

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make sure.

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Okay.

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So we already mentioned the
thing about, you know, no one
thinking about the tunes

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and there's all kinds of
copyrighted material all over
the place.

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And there's a way to solve it if
we're doing programs like this
and we're making money on

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it.

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And that way it's just to hand
off a percentage of your growth
revenue.

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It's done in broadcast all over
the world.

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I think the only thing that's
different is the actual
percentages themselves.

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Could we just adjust this here?

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Mic is good.

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Okay.

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So now we talk about programs
and there was a nice post by
Steve Kirk's.

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which now I want to get to. My
computer screensaver just kicked
in.

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His post is called Have a Take,
Don't Suck.

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And in there he says, well first
of all he's very nice and
compliments me

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and calls me the gold standard
of audio web blogging.

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You know, the whole essence of
this piece is that he's
recognizing

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how these programs fit together
and how there's a format.

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He actually speaks of a format
and that, you know, there's not

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not every one or everybody is
going to be appropriate for
doing this type of stuff.

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You know, and there's a lot of
prior art to look to.

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I posted a link to Steve's
posting.

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So just have a read on that
little plug.

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Now some stuff that came in
through the iPodder,

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some interesting programming
thoughts.

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This of course came through
BlogDigger.

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It's a class of speech.

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by William S. Burroughs, who I
hadn't heard of before.

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The speech is about something
called the wishing machine.

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And from this, if you do a
Google search

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on William S. Burroughs and a
wishing machine,

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you'll run into all kinds of
really interesting stuff.

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He's passed on.

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He died in 1997.

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And this is an hour-long speech

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that he did on the topic of the
technology of wishing.

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And there's two things I want to
play this clip for you.

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Two reasons why.

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One is just so you can hear his
brief introduction of his
speech.

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And the second one is listen to,

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and this is dated from 1985 or
87, I think,

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listen to how this technology
now can be used.

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Here's someone who's just going
to walk in,

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is going to put down a recorder.

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guy's speech and here it is
still living years and years and
years later and

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totally distributable and you
could make an archive of these
and there you go

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you could distribute them
through the iPod platform.
Anyway so listen to

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this I'm gonna let you hear the
piece where the guy is who
recorded this is

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actually setting up the
microphone for the speech by
William S. Burroughs.

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June 24th, 1986.

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June 25th, 1986, William
Burroughs of Gamble Sigma,

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Norwey Institute's Emeriting
Program.

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Now you hear there between his
introduction and William S.
Burroughs actually talking,

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it sounds a lot like the source
code, lots of dead air, and
microphone noises.

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Okay.

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Good.

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The subject I will address,
first subject I will address, is
of interest to young and

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old, man and beast to everyone
without exception.

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It's the subject, it's the
technology of wishing.

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How to formulate your wish in
such a way that it has some
chance of being real?

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And a consideration with last
popular appeal, the
responsibilities involved in
wishing,

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you might say the ethic to
wishing.

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Okay, so that's just a little
piece there of William S.
Burroughs and you can see how
this

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can be pretty enthralling, you
know, it's just like another
audiobook as long as the

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audio is actually decent.

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In this case I think it was,
they must have plugged directly
into the microphone.

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Something else that I came
across from, oh it's Free Reads
from Jim Kelly.net.

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Jim Kelly is a writer and he
actually introduces exactly what
he's doing and why he's doing

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these things.

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introduction before each book.
So I'm going to play that
introduction for you. It's a

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little on the soft side, so you
might have to crank up the
volume. But it's interesting

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to hear how he's going to use
the iPod platform and also his
motivation behind it. Here's

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Jim Kelly from JimKelly.net with
an introduction and then I'll
let you hear the first couple

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paragraphs from his story, The
Best Christmas Ever.

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Hi, this is Jim Kelly. Welcome
to Pre-Reads.

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I'm releasing the story you're
about to hear under a Creative
Commons license.

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Basically, it means it's free.

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Copy it as much as you want,
send it to your cousin in
Kalamazoo, or your pal in
Poland.

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All I ask is that you don't
alter the file, or delete this
intro, or the app to follow.

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If you like what you hear, you
might consider clicking over to
my website,

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www.jimkelly.net, and putting a
little something in my PayPal
account

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to cover my costs of studio
production.

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How much? That's entirely up to
you.

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I'm no actor, but I am the
author of the stories in the
Free Read series,

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and I've tried to perform them,
more or less as I heard them in
my head when I was writing them.

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As the contributions roll in, if
they roll in,

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I hope to return to the studio
to record more of my work.

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In any event, I'm glad to have
you as a listener. Enjoy!

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The best Christmas app.

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Okay, a couple of observations
here about Jim Kelly.

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First of all, I think it's
really cool what he's doing by
putting this together.

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The thing that really hurts me
here is that he is having to go
to a studio and sounds like it
because the quality is really
good of his read.

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That he has to go to a studio
and pay someone money to get
this kind of quality where you
can easily get this kind of
quality on your PC.

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There should be no problem at
all. There's enough processing
power in there, enough digital
signal processing chips.

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It all should be possible. Users
and developers are a huge
crevice between us there on what
we really need.

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The biggest problem is that
users don't know what to ask for
as usual because we don't
really...

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know what the capabilities are.
I mean I'm slowly turning my
power book here into a

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portable studio but something
different than all the
applications have been made

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for. Something that creates a
sound file on the computer and
that can mix

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everything together all
virtually. That's really what's
happening here. And of

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course it would be nice if we
could match up the right readers
with the

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right story writers because you
know although Jim does an
excellent read I

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think you really there's a lot
more as an advantage to have
that you can gain if

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you have someone who has the
right type of talent for doing a
read of an

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audiobook. So a lot of matching
up to do if possible. And I've
been talking to

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lots of people and been thinking
about doing an additional show.
So you know the

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daily source code of course
stays and thinking about
something weekly perhaps.

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And as a part of that or maybe a
whole show hold a for show all
together if anyone

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out there.

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is feeling good about it, we
need an audio book review
program definitely.

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And it should be so simple.

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I've even thought about this.

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We could modify iPodder so that
if you're listening to, let's
say there's a feed, an

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audio book review feed, which of
course is great if you have time
to listen to it, which

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is where you're going to listen
to audio books anyway.

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And it's a show and it comes in
every single day and there's a
review of maybe one book

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with an excerpt.

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And if you want it, then you
just hold down the play button
on your iPod.

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It marks it to a special
playlist.

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When you reconnect, boom, it
goes out and talks to Audible or
BarnesandNoble.com

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or whoever you're going to buy,
Amazon, wherever you're going to
buy this from,

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and pops it up.

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It already knows that it came
through the audiobookreview.com
show.

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And there's a transaction all
over the place.

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There's a market there.

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And I'm so certain that
audiobooks are just going to
grow and grow and grow as

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more iPods and MP3 devices.

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are out in the marketplace. So,
yeah hon? Yeah come on. Come on.
Yeah I'm still busy.

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Yeah. Give me a hand please.
Yeah, okay.

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Is your hand sharp enough? No
man. That's over your feather.

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Oh you're...

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This is Patricia who brought me
a nice bowl of chicken soup.

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Because it's rainy? Mmhmm.

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I'm gonna catch, wanna go out,
and not allowed to. Thank you
hon.

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Bye.

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very nice. So I've been thinking
about a show with a co-host.
Actually, I've been talking

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to someone about a show as a
co-host. And, you know, we're
not quite there yet. But

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just from a technology
standpoint, now I'm thinking,
how can we do this? And I wrote

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it, I tried to explain this on
my web blog today by writing
about it, found it kind

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of difficult, or I don't think
anyone will understand what I'm
saying.

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In the broadcast world, when you
have, I'll say, a radio show and
you want to talk

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to someone else who is somewhere
in a different country or
different world or

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different state or around the
corner, just not in the studio,
what you need to do is

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either lease a line, you can do
connections through ISDN, that's
how it's

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done often, so you get a nice
clear quality, or you
immediately downgrade to

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a telephone, which of course is
the easiest, cheapest way and
almost

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anybody can use it and has
access to one. And part of the
big promise of the

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internet.

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of course especially for
broadcasters is hey you know we
can connect to anyone

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And I think the CNET television
used to do that once in a while
that have a bit where

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you could call in with your net
meeting, video chat software,
and oh, I suck, that never
looked

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good.

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And it probably still wouldn't
today.

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But that was years ago until for
its time, or for the period of
time, way ahead of its

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time.

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But now I think that if I'm
going to do a radio show with
someone else, there should

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be no reason for us to both be
in the same room at the same
time, yet we should be

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able to capture an equal
fidelity quality of us talking.

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And we should be able to have a
real time conversation just like
we're talking on

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the phone.

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And of course, I've already been
interested in voice over IP and
I thought,

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wow, you know, what we need to
do is we need to hook up either
Skype or some

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type of chat program so that we
can basically hear each other
and then

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record the output of both.

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And as I thought it through,
give up with some issues.

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One is the way I have it set up
now so that I can record my
microphone and

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and any other sound that I make
on my Mac,

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I'm basically recording through
a program called WireTap,

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which just anything that'll come
through the speakers,

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WireTap is going to record.

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Now, my microphone, if I just
plug the mic in

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and there's no application
talking to it,

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it's not gonna do anything, you
won't hear it.

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Therefore, WireTap can't record
it.

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So I use Apple's GarageBand kind
of as an amplifier

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and I turn the monitoring on in
GarageBand.

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I can set some effects and some
EQs

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and because I can hear it
through the speakers,

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it will be recorded by WireTap.

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Now, if I want to use Apple's
iChat AV for instance,

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to talk to someone else to have
them on the show,

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I could certainly record what
they're saying

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because I can hear it through
the speakers,

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therefore this WireTap program
will record it.

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But my microphone is already
being used by another
application,

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so how am I gonna make sure

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that the person on the other end
hears me?

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So anyway, I figured it out.

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which is very interesting is
that for some reason with these
two applications probably

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because they are both Apple
programs and use the core audio,
my microphone can actually

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be accessed by these two
programs at once.

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So now I'll be able to record my
voice.

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I'll be able to record whoever's
on the other end of the iChat AV
and of course when they

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get audio conferencing I'll be
able to do it with a whole bunch
of people which will

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be fascinating.

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I can also at the same time any
sound effect or any song or
anything I play on any media

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player, any sound that I make
with my Mac even like turning up
the volume.

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Hold on, did you get that?

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There you go.

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Any sound that comes out of the
speakers will be recorded by
wire tap.

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But then there's one problem
there is that when I play a
clip, the person on the other

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end won't be able to hear that
clip because then I basically
have to hold a microphone

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up to the speaker and that's not
the way it should be done.

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So I've toyed around with a
couple of different programs
that let you route audio from
one

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program to the other.

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I'm just having a little bit of
this chicken soup here.

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Yeah, it's good.

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And I couldn't really get those
to work the way I wanted to, so
I haven't quite solved

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that problem yet.

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But this is going to be so huge
when we all figure this out and
we start to want to make

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these type of programs.

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This is going to be such a
market for software to do this
stuff.

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It's going to be awesome.

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So anyway, that's on the
horizon.

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I'll update you as everything
unfolds.

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Okay.

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Song of the day.

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It's a classic one.

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This is really a song that is
perfect for the weather here
today in Belgium.

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It was raining all weekend.

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It's been dark and musty and wet
and just continuing to drizzle
and then rain off and

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on again.

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So there's no other song more
perfect for a day like today
than the Mamas and the

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Pappas.

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Of course it's Monday.

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[ Music ]

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Monday Monday and just think if
Karen Carpenter and Deaton Mama
Cassis ham sandwich we would

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have still had two great singers
with us today.

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And I apologize I'm not quite
sure what happened during the
song but for some reason the
whole

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computer froze up once or twice
and I'm sure that was reflected
in the recording but everything

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seems to be running so I just
let it go.

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I figured this whole program has
been crappy enough.

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And I might as well add that to
the mix.

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Quick bit of geek talk.

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I've been noticing that Google
is doing some stuff that I'm not
seeing a lot written about

32:41.000 --> 32:45.000
but I have picked up on a couple
of links I'm not quite sure I
understand it.

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Excuse me.

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Oh great chicken soup.

32:48.000 --> 32:56.000
One of them is Google FS or
maybe it's Gmail FS it seems
that somehow there's an API

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or there's some way to address
Google specifically Gmail.

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I think it was Google FS which
stands for the file system.

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away from Linux for you to mount
your Gmail Drive space, which of
course is one gigabyte.

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And along with that, there's
another application, a little
program, which is also something

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you have to download and work on
Unix.

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But that's where all the, you
know, a lot of the fun stuff
does seem to start.

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It's called Galina.

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And what that does is whenever
you send an email to your Gmail
account, it automatically

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generates a blog post on a web
blog page.

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So, you know, it seems to me
like there's something really
interesting going on there.

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And are people just finding
these APIs or is there active
development going on?

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Or, you know, what the hell is
it?

33:50.500 --> 33:55.500
And while you ponder that, I
want to play something that I
discussed when I was

33:55.500 --> 34:02.500
talking to Dave, Dave Weiner,
who was temporarily at least has
moved to Seattle.

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He's going to be there at least
through the November 6th
BloggerCon conference,

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which I'll, I'm attending and
I'll be leaving.

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a discussion on, gee, shall we
do it about this?

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So that's a lot of fun to look
forward to.

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So we're talking about that and
talking about our upcoming move
to the UK.

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And there's a lot of exciting
stuff and just stuff you run
across when you're moving,

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your financial stuff and changes
of addresses and letting
everyone know what's going on

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and then your stuff.

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And Dave said, well, you know,
I'm to the point where my stuff
fits in one car.

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And I'm like, yeah, you know, I
have a wife and a 14 year old
daughter and our stuff just

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doesn't fit in one car.

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It's just no way.

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And we've got lots of stuff.

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And I said, have you ever heard
the George Carlin bit about
stuff?

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And he says, no.

34:54.000 --> 34:56.000
I said, well, I'm going to play
that for you on the source code.

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So I looked at my iTunes
library.

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I know I had it at one point.

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Couldn't find it.

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And so you got to love the
internet one quick trip to Lime
Wire.

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And I guess this came off a bear
share client.

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It is the.

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original piece that George
Carlin does about stuff. I'm
going to play a little bit more

35:15.500 --> 35:19.500
than just the stuff. There's a
commercial and advertisement
which comes after it, which I

35:19.500 --> 35:27.500
might as well just leave on
since it's Carlin to the max. So
enjoy this bit from George

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Carlin. It's called A Place for
My Stuff.

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That's my job thinking up goofy
shit.

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Come around every now and then
letting you know what it is.

35:41.500 --> 35:47.500
Or reminding you of things you
already knew but forgot to laugh
at the first time.

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This is my office over here.

35:51.000 --> 35:54.000
Let's face it, if this is my
job, this must be my office.

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Looks like an office to me.

35:56.000 --> 35:58.000
Got me a little desk here.

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Kind of nice desk.

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And a chair.

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Chair goes with the desk, of
course.

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You could sit on the chair at
the desk, if you like, making
them a set.

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Or you can use the chair as an
occasional piece.

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Which is nice to have in the
office, I always say.

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Actually this is just a place
for my stuff, you know?

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That's all a little place for my
stuff.

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That's all I want, that's all
you need in life is a little
place for your stuff, you know?

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I can see it on your table,
everybody's got a little place
for their stuff.

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This is my stuff, that's your
stuff, that'll be his stuff over
there.

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That's all you need in life, a
little place for your stuff.

36:43.500 --> 36:47.500
That's all your house is, a
place to keep your stuff.

36:47.500 --> 36:51.500
If you didn't have so much
stuff, you wouldn't need a
house.

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You could just walk around all
the time.

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The house is just a pile of
stuff with a cover on it.

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You can see that when you're
taking off in an airplane.

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You look down, you see
everybody's got a little pile of
stuff.

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All the little piles of stuff.

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And when you leave your house,
you gotta lock it up.

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Wouldn't want somebody to come
by and take some of your stuff.

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They always take the good stuff.

37:20.000 --> 37:24.000
They've never bothered with that
crap you're saving.

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All they want is the shiniest
stuff.

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Put your house is a place to
keep your stuff while you go out
and get more stuff.

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Sometimes you gotta move, gotta
get a bigger house. Why? No room
for your stuff in here.

37:49.500 --> 37:53.500
Notice when you go to somebody
else's house, you never quite
feel 100% at home.

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You know why?

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No room for your stuff.

37:57.500 --> 38:00.500
Somebody else's stuff is all
over the goddamn place.

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And if you stay overnight,
unexpectedly, to give you a
little bedroom to sleep in,
bedroom

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they haven't used in about 11
years, someone died in it 11
years, and they haven't moved

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any of his stuff.

38:21.000 --> 38:26.000
Right next to the bed is usually
a dresser or a bureau of some
kind and there's no room

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for your stuff on it.

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Somebody else's shit is on the
dresser.

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Have you noticed that their
stuff is shit and your shit is
stuff?

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Say that shit off of there and
let me put my stuff down.

38:54.000 --> 38:57.000
Sometimes you leave your house
to go on vacation

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and you gotta take some of your
stuff with you.

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You gotta take about two big
suitcases full of stuff.

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When you go on vacation you
gotta take a smaller version of
your house.

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It's the second version of your
stuff.

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You're gonna fly all the way to
Honolulu. You're gonna go across
the continent,

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across half an ocean to
Honolulu. You get down to the
hotel room in Honolulu

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and you open up your suitcase
and you put away all your stuff.
There's lots of places in the
hotel room to put your stuff.

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Here's a place to put a little
bit of stuff there. Put some
stuff here. Put some stuff here.

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You put your stuff there. Put
some stuff here. There's another
place for stuff.

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Look at this. I put some stuff
here.

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Even though you're far away from
home, you start to get used to
it.

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You start to feel okay because
after all, you do have some of
your stuff with you.

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That's when your friend calls up
from Maui and says,

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hey, why don't you come over to
Maui for the weekend and spend a
couple of nights over here?

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Oh, no.

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Now what do I pack?

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Right. You've got to pack an
even smaller version of your
stuff.

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The third version of your house.

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Just enough stuff to take to
Maui for a couple of days.

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Get over to Maui. I mean, you're
really getting extended now.

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When you think about it, you've
got stuff all the way back on
the mainland.

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You've got stuff on another
island. You've got stuff on this
island.

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I mean, supply lines are getting
longer and harder to maintain.

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You get over to your friend's
house on Maui and he gives you a
little place to sleep,

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a little bed right next to it,
there's a windowsill or
something. You put some of your
stuff up there,

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you put your stuff up there, you
got your vising, you got your
nail clippers, and you put
everything up.

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About an hour and a half, but
after a while you finally feel
okay, say,

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all right, I got my nail
clippers, I must be okay. That's
when your friend says,

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hey, I think tonight we'll go
over the other side of the
island, visit a pal of mine, and
maybe stay over.

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Oh no. Now what do you pack?

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Right. You gotta pack an even
smaller version of your stuff.

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The fourth version of your
house. Only the stuff you know
you're gonna need.

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Money, keys, comb, wallet,
lighter, hanky, pen, smoke,
rubber, and change.

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Well, only the stuff you hope
you're gonna need.

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We'll be back to the album in
just a moment. First, these
messages.

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Say, why not become a schmuck? A
licensed, practicing schmuck?

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Or if you qualify, a CPS. That's
right, a certified public
schmuck.

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You know, it may not seem like
it when you look around, but
there is a shortage of schmucks
in today's society.

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And there's big money in
schmuckdom. The average schmuck
today earns over $34,000 a year.

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And there are openings for
schmucks in virtually every
field.

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The government is run by
schmucks, big businesses run by
schmucks,

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and more and more people are
becoming schmucks on their own.

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You know, some guys can only
manage to be schmucks on New
Year's Eve.

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But here's your opportunity to
become a full-time year-round
schmuck.

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Give us a call. Don't be a
schmuck. Be a schmuck.

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That's George Carlin. And of
course you heard a bit from his
very famous, A Place For My
Stuff,

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which I just love it, man.

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Here's a guy when he's doing
some of this stuff, doing a show
like...

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this. Wouldn't it be great to
wake up every morning to a
little look on life from George

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Carlin or from John Stuart for
that reason? There's a lot of
people I'd love to hear.

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Just a little, just a little bit
about the day. That's it for the
source code for today.

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A little bit, a little messy
here and there and I'm going to
run out and get some more

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batteries for tomorrow's show.
As always, if you want to
respond, you can send me

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email adam at curry.com or leave
a comment on my web blog
live.curry.com.

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You can always find a new source
code at DailySourceCode.com
where you can subscribe to the
Daily Feed with iPodder.

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That's DailySourceCode.com slash
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And you can get the iPodder at
iPodder.org.

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We'll see you tomorrow for
another source code.

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Take care!

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The power of your new thoughts.

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The Power of Your New Thoughts