WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:07.000 The Power of Dark. 00:07.000 --> 00:11.000 Coming to you, Dritz. 00:11.000 --> 00:13.000 From Curry Castle in Belgium, it is... 00:25.500 --> 00:27.500 The power of your influence. 00:27.500 --> 00:29.500 I've got a lot lined up for you today. 00:29.500 --> 00:34.500 In fact, today is a special day because if everything works out with the technology in, 00:34.500 --> 00:38.500 then I'll be recording the new show that I've been teasing in the past week. 00:38.500 --> 00:40.500 It's a show with a co-host. 00:40.500 --> 00:43.500 And I actually tested out some of the technology locally here today. 00:43.500 --> 00:45.500 And it works. 00:45.500 --> 00:48.500 Looks like I'm going to be able to record both of us, 00:48.500 --> 00:50.500 almost as if we're sitting in the same room. 00:50.500 --> 00:53.500 Although, believe me, there's no one else here in Belgium 00:53.500 --> 00:54.500 I would want to do that show with. 00:54.500 --> 00:56.500 So first, that's clearly somewhere else. 00:56.500 --> 00:58.500 And we've got a name. 00:58.500 --> 00:59.500 We're working on a tune. 00:59.500 --> 01:00.500 And today we're going to record. 01:00.500 --> 01:02.500 And if it turns out OK, then we broadcast it. 01:02.500 --> 01:05.500 But basically, this will be a show. 01:06.000 --> 01:12.000 and we talk for however long it is, no longer than an hour, certainly, and then we end it. 01:12.000 --> 01:15.000 Anyway, this is the source code, something completely different. 01:15.000 --> 01:20.000 It's where users and developers party together, and if you've ever seen my weblog at curry.com, 01:20.000 --> 01:26.000 then you've probably seen the title of my weblog, it wasn't say Adam Curry's weblog, 01:26.000 --> 01:31.000 but underneath it says, there are no secrets, only information you don't yet have. 01:31.000 --> 01:33.000 And boy, that really came true. 01:33.000 --> 01:40.000 Yesterday here in the Netherlands, a respected news organization, RTL News, 01:40.000 --> 01:44.000 announced that they had obtained the national budget, 01:44.000 --> 01:52.000 let's see, three days before its embargoed release to the press. 01:52.000 --> 01:57.000 And the way this works here, we have what they call Prince Day, Princeius Dach, 01:57.000 --> 02:01.000 and that's the third Thursday in September, 02:01.000 --> 02:07.000 and that's when the Minister of Finance presents, he has a little briefcase actually that says 02:07.500 --> 02:11.500 Thursday in September he presents the budget, the budget for the coming fiscal year and 02:11.500 --> 02:16.500 the Queen does her annual how-to-do and she talks about, it's basically a state of the 02:16.500 --> 02:23.500 union or a state of the kingdom address and RTL News somehow obtained the entire document 02:23.500 --> 02:29.500 so which basically says, you know, here's what the minister of economics is planning 02:29.500 --> 02:33.500 on doing and here's what the government is planning on doing in 2005, giving of 02:33.500 --> 02:38.500 course everybody kind of a head start, a weird head start since you're not really 02:38.500 --> 02:42.500 supposed to hear this until everybody hears it on Thursday but then again, you 02:42.500 --> 02:48.500 know, there's no secrets, right? And it's, I think it's going to cause quite a stir. 02:48.500 --> 02:54.500 I also think it's pretty unbelievable that even though the press got a hold of 02:54.500 --> 02:57.500 it and they really didn't even discuss much in the in the documents on the 02:57.500 --> 03:01.500 RTL News, they said, hey, here it is, they did, they made it available via 03:01.500 --> 03:04.500 download on their website which almost impossible to get because it would just 03:04.500 --> 03:08.500 got totally swamped and 03:09.000 --> 03:13.000 They didn't really discuss much of the content. It seemed like the scoop of them having it. 03:13.000 --> 03:18.000 The fact that someone had leaked that to them was the story all by itself and what almost went 03:18.000 --> 03:28.000 unnoticed is what's in the budget. By the way, not really good. Let me see. Oh, yes. Slash. 03:29.000 --> 03:37.000 Pointed to ipodder.org yesterday. Now the correct verbiage I believe is that I was slash. 03:37.000 --> 03:45.000 Or we were slash dotted ipodder.org. This happened to me I think once, maybe twice before. 03:45.000 --> 03:49.000 And it's really fun because you notice it. Your email starts pinging with all kinds of people 03:49.000 --> 03:55.000 responding to whatever the site that's linked to. Sometimes you get all kinds of messages that 03:55.000 --> 04:03.000 your servers are burning out and running down. Now in this case, I have to say the load was not 04:03.000 --> 04:10.000 on me because ipodder.org is actually hosted by Radio Userland when you buy Radio Userland. 04:10.500 --> 04:13.500 You get, I think it was $35 a year. 04:13.500 --> 04:15.500 You get an annual license for radio user land 04:15.500 --> 04:17.500 and all their updates. 04:17.500 --> 04:19.500 And you get storage. 04:19.500 --> 04:22.500 And I think I've purchased additional storage, 04:22.500 --> 04:27.500 but you get a certain number of MEGs that you can use. 04:27.500 --> 04:30.500 And since iPod.org, I just kind of routed that as a category 04:30.500 --> 04:31.500 for my web blog. 04:31.500 --> 04:34.500 By default, it goes to the user land server 04:34.500 --> 04:35.500 and it held up beautifully. 04:35.500 --> 04:37.500 So thank you very much user land. 04:37.500 --> 04:43.500 May I say, well worth the price of admission for that service. 04:43.500 --> 04:45.500 I didn't go unnoticed by some of the other folks 04:45.500 --> 04:49.500 who were working on iPod.org and on programs 04:49.500 --> 04:51.500 and shows of their own. 04:51.500 --> 04:56.500 Dave Slusher, who brings you the evil genius Chronicles, 04:56.500 --> 04:58.500 noticed that iPod.org got slash dotted. 04:58.500 --> 04:59.500 And he had some remarks about it, 04:59.500 --> 05:02.500 which I thought were pretty funny and some things 05:02.500 --> 05:03.500 that I also noticed as well. 05:03.500 --> 05:06.500 I'm going to play a bit of Dave's audio blog, 05:06.500 --> 05:08.500 or actually his show from yesterday, 05:08.500 --> 05:10.500 which was titled Mr. Microphone. 05:10.500 --> 05:12.500 We're going to skip the Mr. Microphone. 05:12.000 --> 05:15.000 and listen to him about slash dot what he feels about it. 05:16.500 --> 05:23.500 slash dot is what it is in general. It's interesting. So here's Dave Slasher from evilgeniuschronicles.org. 05:23.500 --> 05:32.500 Today, the iPodder link was slash dotted. And you know, I used to read slash dot a lot, 05:32.500 --> 05:38.500 and I just kind of stopped. And for a similar reason that I've actually considered stopping 05:38.500 --> 05:43.500 reading boing boing, which is that all the really good stuff that I care about comes 05:43.500 --> 05:48.500 in from either was from other sources that I already read before it was there, 05:48.500 --> 05:55.500 or somebody's going to post a pointer to it. And both of them have a lot of crap that I just could not give a shit about if I tried. 05:55.500 --> 06:00.500 You know, on boing boing, it's, you know, Cory Doctro, God love him, great guy, great writer. 06:00.500 --> 06:06.500 Man, if I see another post about Disney, I am just going to vomit Mickey Mouse ears. 06:06.500 --> 06:10.500 You know, I don't give a shit about Disney. And I especially don't care, you know, 06:10.500 --> 06:15.500 I post seven posts every day about Disney and Disney World and Roy Disney and Michael Eisner. 06:15.500 --> 06:17.500 Who gives a fuck? Fuck this. 06:18.000 --> 06:25.000 Disney. So, you know, and so, you know, if I were in like, Jenny Jordan or however you 06:25.000 --> 06:30.000 pronounce her name, you know, robots and objects shaped like Hello Kitty, you know, after a 06:30.000 --> 06:35.000 while, Jesus Christ, how many things can be, you would assume that eventually Sanrio will 06:35.000 --> 06:40.000 shape everything, including, you know, enema balls, be like the, you know, the Choco 06:40.000 --> 06:46.000 Cat enema ball. So, after a while, the novelty is not there anymore. Now, were 06:46.000 --> 06:51.000 I a boing-boing contributor, everyone would get sick of seeing more like 06:51.000 --> 06:56.000 Mexican wrestling stuff, you know. No one else cares as much about your fetishes. 06:56.000 --> 06:59.000 That's the nature of the fetish. But I get tired of it. And same thing with 06:59.000 --> 07:05.000 Slash. After with Slash. It's mainly the commenters. And the only reason I ever 07:05.000 --> 07:09.000 got a Slash. account in the first time, because I really don't care that much. 07:09.000 --> 07:14.000 And I once cared and I just stopped. So that I can log in to my account and 07:14.000 --> 07:20.000 then just put the comment threshold up to five. And often I don't, I just 07:19.500 --> 07:23.500 go out of my way to not even scroll down low enough to see the comments. 07:23.500 --> 07:28.500 And if you look at the comments that are kind of on that iPod or post, 07:28.500 --> 07:32.500 it is prototypical for the horseshit. 07:32.500 --> 07:36.500 It just makes me not care anything about slash dot comments 07:36.500 --> 07:42.500 because you could easily machine generate all the threads on there. 07:42.500 --> 07:47.500 You have like a probabilistic script that will say, 07:47.500 --> 07:51.500 okay, certain percent will say, that's already been done. 07:51.500 --> 07:53.500 Certain percent will say, is that all there is? 07:53.500 --> 07:56.500 And a certain percent will make stupid jokes about something 07:56.500 --> 07:59.500 and a few will be completely unrelated. 07:59.500 --> 08:03.500 And a few will tell other people what an asshole they are for thinking this. 08:03.500 --> 08:05.500 It's just nothing to it. 08:05.500 --> 08:09.500 If that was the only thing I knew about online communities 08:09.500 --> 08:11.500 was slash dot comment threads, 08:11.500 --> 08:14.500 I would think that was the worst shit in the world. 08:14.500 --> 08:17.500 Why does everybody talk about this? This is nothing. 08:17.500 --> 08:20.500 So it's amazing to me. 08:21.000 --> 08:28.000 The kind of, it seems like, you know, I don't know what percentage of people actually leave comments. 08:28.000 --> 08:30.000 I'm guessing probably, you know, 0.1%. 08:30.000 --> 08:34.000 Almost everybody reads and probably very few people leave the comments. 08:34.000 --> 08:38.000 So you kind of self-selected for a certain kind of person. 08:38.000 --> 08:42.000 And that kind of person, one is kind of an asshole. 08:42.000 --> 08:45.000 And two, has really bad reading comprehension. 08:45.000 --> 08:51.000 I don't know why everyone on there, for like the first 100 comments, seems to think 08:51.000 --> 08:56.000 the iPod has something to do with streaming, either outputting streaming or reading in streaming, 08:56.000 --> 09:01.000 when that's sort of not quite the opposite, but almost the opposite of what it's really about. 09:01.000 --> 09:03.000 It's not about streaming. 09:03.000 --> 09:06.000 So that was something. 09:06.000 --> 09:12.000 And I just hope the slash dot storm, you know, doesn't kill Adam's bandwidth on it. 09:12.000 --> 09:16.000 Hopefully, you know, the fraction of people who are actually interested will kind of stick around 09:16.000 --> 09:19.000 and the assholes will move on, as assholes do. 09:22.500 --> 09:27.500 As I said, Bandwidth wasn't too bad on my end because I paid my $35 and I got a good deal 09:27.500 --> 09:28.500 out of it. 09:28.500 --> 09:34.500 But indeed, it's funny because I was talking to Dave Weiner a couple days ago about, I 09:34.500 --> 09:37.500 don't know how we got to talking about it. 09:37.500 --> 09:40.500 I said, you know, it's so hard, often to be taken seriously. 09:40.500 --> 09:43.500 This by the way is, you know, don't cue any violins for me. 09:43.500 --> 09:45.500 Oh, wait a minute, maybe we should. 09:45.500 --> 09:46.500 That'd be kind of cool. 09:46.500 --> 09:47.500 Hold on a second. 09:47.500 --> 09:48.500 Let me see. 09:48.500 --> 09:51.500 I wonder if I have any violins. 09:51.500 --> 09:52.500 When it hun. 09:54.000 --> 09:56.000 Thank you. 09:57.000 --> 09:59.000 Thank you very much. 09:59.000 --> 10:01.000 Nice cup of tea. 10:03.000 --> 10:04.000 from my wife. 10:04.000 --> 10:06.000 Uh, let me see. 10:06.000 --> 10:07.000 I've got some. 10:07.000 --> 10:08.000 Do I have any violins? 10:08.000 --> 10:09.000 Come on. 10:11.000 --> 10:13.000 Give me some violins. 10:13.000 --> 10:15.000 How about... 10:19.000 --> 10:20.000 So... 10:20.000 --> 10:22.000 That's not sad enough. 10:22.000 --> 10:23.000 Let's try this one. 10:25.000 --> 10:26.000 So whenever... 10:27.000 --> 10:29.000 I try to post something seriously, it... 10:30.000 --> 10:32.000 I just don't get taken seriously. 10:33.000 --> 10:35.000 Did I still talk about my... 10:35.000 --> 10:37.000 What the Queen? 10:37.000 --> 10:39.000 Downtown Julie Brown. 10:45.000 --> 10:46.000 Enough of that. 10:46.000 --> 10:50.000 OK, looking at the iPodder developer mailing list, 10:50.000 --> 10:53.000 which is great because this is anything but a developer 10:53.000 --> 10:54.000 mailing list. 10:54.000 --> 10:55.000 It's for developers and users. 10:55.000 --> 10:57.000 And because of the slash dot link, 10:57.000 --> 11:01.000 a lot of people have been catching on to what we're doing. 11:01.000 --> 11:03.000 And one thing that says a lot of talk about within the 11:03.000 --> 11:07.000 iPodder community is about screen scraping. 11:07.000 --> 11:11.000 And part of this is due to, I guess, is iSpider. 11:11.000 --> 11:15.000 I think it's the iSpider program that will allow you 11:15.000 --> 11:18.000 to subscribe to RSS 2.0 files with enclosures. 11:18.000 --> 11:19.000 But also, if you just give it a URL, 11:19.000 --> 11:22.000 we'll scrape that, the HTML, and we'll 11:22.000 --> 11:25.000 download any MP3 that's attached to it. 11:25.000 --> 11:31.000 And Dennis, who has a great site called scrapfeeds.com, 11:31.000 --> 11:35.000 which for RSS is absolutely fantastic if a site doesn't 11:35.000 --> 11:38.000 support it but you do want to subscribe to it. 11:38.000 --> 11:40.000 He's also jumped into the conversation. 11:40.000 --> 11:43.000 I have to say, I'm not for the screen scraping. 11:43.000 --> 11:44.000 I think it's great. 11:44.000 --> 11:46.000 People talk about how you can do it with. 11:46.500 --> 11:53.500 Excuse me, regular expressions and therefore also download other files except for mp3s 11:53.500 --> 11:54.500 that are on a web page. 11:54.500 --> 11:56.500 But that's kind of beyond the point. 11:56.500 --> 11:59.500 Then we should call this ice scraper. 11:59.500 --> 12:05.500 The whole point is that you get something that you know is going to be there, it's 12:05.500 --> 12:09.500 going to be there more or less consistently as long as you're subscribed and consistency 12:09.500 --> 12:13.500 depends upon the published times and dates. 12:13.500 --> 12:20.500 But for serendipity maybe, just to have a feed of stuff like the blog digger feed, 12:20.500 --> 12:21.500 that's fine. 12:21.500 --> 12:23.500 I love getting stuff just kind of out of the blue. 12:23.500 --> 12:28.500 But I think the whole point is we have to get the solid base down first of subscribing 12:28.500 --> 12:30.500 to RSS 2.0 files with enclosures. 12:30.500 --> 12:36.500 Or any, if Adam is out there, ATOM and they have enclosures, we're going to have to 12:36.500 --> 12:37.500 support that as well. 12:37.500 --> 12:41.500 I think that's where we need to support to start. 12:41.500 --> 12:45.500 Something else that I think is great, I forget who mentioned this, but OPML support. 12:45.500 --> 12:47.500 And I think this is probably 12:48.000 --> 12:52.000 the perfect way to deal with the subscriptions because we kind of been and I think you know 12:52.000 --> 12:57.000 also this has been tried right you know the with web blogs the little orange white on 12:57.000 --> 13:03.000 orange XML icons it's not going to get much easier than you know the way we do it now 13:03.000 --> 13:11.000 by just having a feeds dot text file or whatever and adding a an RSS URL to an RSS and that 13:11.000 --> 13:17.000 file however if we have OPML that could be interesting because with OPML then you 13:17.000 --> 13:22.000 can read in collections of 13:22.500 --> 13:25.500 subscriptions and you could also open up that 13:25.500 --> 13:30.500 OPML file in an outliner. It should be any outliner that supports it 13:30.500 --> 13:34.500 but you know there are a lot of good ones out there that already support OPML. 13:34.500 --> 13:37.500 You can easily manage your subscription. So I think that's something good that we 13:37.500 --> 13:38.500 should be looking at. 13:38.500 --> 13:42.500 And I got an email. Let's see. This is from Andrew Clark. 13:42.500 --> 13:47.500 See where's Andrew from? I don't remember. He's talking about 13:47.500 --> 13:51.500 the long-term of actually starts off by saying I think in the long-term 13:51.500 --> 13:55.500 storing MP3s in a web server won't really scale. He's done the math and he says my 13:55.500 --> 14:01.500 daily source code MP3 is already total 438 megabytes for just one month of shows. 14:01.500 --> 14:04.500 I don't know if I've been at it for a whole month, maybe half a month. 14:04.500 --> 14:08.500 And he says well sure that's not a problem for Adam but it may be for a lot of people. 14:08.500 --> 14:12.500 So what he eventually winds up saying is you know this is and by the way I 14:12.500 --> 14:16.500 don't think the storage is a problem because even if you're using BitTorrent 14:16.500 --> 14:17.500 which is what he leads up to. 14:19.500 --> 14:22.500 You're still going to need the storage, whether that's locally or on a server. 14:22.500 --> 14:27.500 Granted, most people don't have the luxury of a server sitting somewhere with just gobs 14:27.500 --> 14:31.500 of gigs laying around to be filled up. 14:31.500 --> 14:35.500 This is definitely a problem and I think BitTorrent is indeed the way to go. 14:35.500 --> 14:41.500 So the next step is how do we publish RSS files and their enclosures? 14:41.500 --> 14:42.500 What do we put in the BitTorrents? 14:42.500 --> 14:46.500 How do we get it from A to B? 14:46.500 --> 14:52.500 That's a really big step that we have to take because it's not the storage that necessarily 14:52.500 --> 14:53.500 is the problem. 14:53.500 --> 14:54.500 It's the bandwidth. 14:54.500 --> 14:56.500 You don't want to know what kind of bandwidth I'm pushing. 14:56.500 --> 15:00.500 It's unbelievable, especially after the iPod or slash dot. 15:00.500 --> 15:04.500 A lot of people start listening to the source code and every single time someone fires 15:04.500 --> 15:10.500 up a new install of iPod or boom, they're going to get 10 of my files. 15:10.500 --> 15:16.500 So that's roughly around 200 to 300 megs. 15:16.500 --> 15:18.500 So you can do the math on that. 15:18.500 --> 15:20.500 Obviously that's not going to scale. 15:21.000 --> 15:23.000 I think BitTorrent is totally the way to go. 15:23.000 --> 15:26.000 So I'm looking forward to anyone integrating 15:26.000 --> 15:30.000 any type of BitTorrent functionality into an iPodder. 15:30.000 --> 15:31.000 And I bet you there's someone out there 15:31.000 --> 15:34.000 who knows just how to do it. 15:34.000 --> 15:36.000 A little bit of politics on the source code for today 15:36.000 --> 15:39.000 is we're 15 minutes into the show, 15:39.000 --> 15:41.000 really based upon two pieces of audio 15:41.000 --> 15:42.000 that I want you to hear. 15:42.000 --> 15:44.000 It's about Bush. 15:44.000 --> 15:47.000 And the first bit that I'm going to play for you, 15:47.000 --> 15:48.000 about three minutes. 15:48.000 --> 15:50.000 And the great thing about the show, of course, 15:50.000 --> 15:53.000 or any show within the iPod platform 15:53.000 --> 15:55.000 is if you don't like what you're hearing, 15:55.000 --> 15:56.000 you just skip ahead, right? 15:56.000 --> 15:58.000 It's just like Tevo, real simple. 15:58.000 --> 16:01.000 But I think you'll be pretty enthralled to listen to this. 16:01.000 --> 16:03.000 It's a BBC radio documentary. 16:03.000 --> 16:06.000 Now, I listen to the BBC World almost all the time. 16:06.000 --> 16:09.000 We get it on AM, or you can get it on AM 16:09.000 --> 16:10.000 in almost all of Europe. 16:10.000 --> 16:12.000 And I think you can get it online. 16:12.000 --> 16:16.000 You can listen to them as well, bbcworld.com. 16:16.000 --> 16:19.000 You think it would be .co.uk, but it's bbcworld.com. 16:19.000 --> 16:20.000 And they do great. 16:20.000 --> 16:22.000 I mean, just phenomenal documentaries. 16:22.500 --> 16:25.500 And this is one of their radio documentary series. 16:25.500 --> 16:28.500 And it's about the Skull and Crossbones Club. 16:28.500 --> 16:31.500 I guess it's a fraternity at Yale. 16:31.500 --> 16:36.500 And the reason for them to go find out about the Skull and Crossbones Club is because three 16:36.500 --> 16:39.500 of the past four presidents were members of the Skull and Crossbones. 16:39.500 --> 16:45.500 So that would be George Bush Sr., Jr. and John Kerry. 16:45.500 --> 16:51.500 So if he's elected, of course, then, oh, wait, that was presumptuous of me. 16:51.500 --> 16:58.500 And so this reporter took a little trip out to the Skull and Crossbones headquarters and 16:58.500 --> 17:02.500 spoke with some people there and actually walked up to the door and just gives a little 17:02.500 --> 17:07.500 bit of insight about this very, very secretive organization and what's behind it. 17:07.500 --> 17:11.500 Now what I need to do is figure out where this came from because it is from the BBC. 17:11.500 --> 17:15.500 I know that, but it was delivered, how do I find it? 17:15.500 --> 17:18.500 Probably another blog digger score. 17:18.500 --> 17:21.500 So I don't feel comfortable just republishing it in its entirety. 17:21.500 --> 17:23.500 It's about 28 minutes long. 17:24.000 --> 17:28.000 So you'll have to hunt around for it. 17:28.000 --> 17:33.000 But it was apparently released on the 12th of September 2004. 17:33.000 --> 17:35.000 It's called Scullin Crossbones. 17:35.000 --> 17:36.000 Listen to this piece. 17:36.000 --> 17:37.000 I think you'll enjoy it. 17:37.000 --> 17:41.000 My search for the secrets of Scullin bones begins on a wet spring afternoon on the Yale 17:41.000 --> 17:42.000 campus. 17:42.000 --> 17:48.000 My guide is Peggy Adler, a tenacious researcher who helped investigate the Iran Contra scandal 17:48.000 --> 17:53.000 in the 1980s and has been probing into Scullin bones for almost 20 years. 17:53.000 --> 17:58.000 We're on the way, Scullin bones headquarters intriguingly named Tomb on one of Yale's main 17:58.000 --> 17:59.000 thoroughfares. 17:59.000 --> 18:01.000 So this is on the left. 18:01.000 --> 18:02.000 That's right. 18:02.000 --> 18:03.000 I see white smoke too. 18:03.000 --> 18:04.000 That's like smoke. 18:04.000 --> 18:12.000 I mean it seems very appropriate weather that we're in the middle of this storm. 18:12.000 --> 18:15.000 There's thunder every now and then. 18:15.000 --> 18:20.000 Look at this building which does look, it's quite an imposing, quite a dark looking 18:20.000 --> 18:21.000 building isn't it? 18:21.000 --> 18:22.000 Right in the middle of the campus. 18:22.000 --> 18:24.000 Should we take a closer look? 18:25.500 --> 18:26.500 You can if you want. 18:26.500 --> 18:27.500 Yeah. 18:27.500 --> 18:28.500 I'll stay here. 18:28.500 --> 18:29.500 Why don't you want to come up? 18:29.500 --> 18:37.500 I just feel that since I live locally and continue to be cited in articles by name that I'll 18:37.500 --> 18:38.500 just stay on the side of the street. 18:38.500 --> 18:40.500 You don't want to come up there and knock on the door? 18:40.500 --> 18:41.500 Oh no no no. 18:41.500 --> 18:42.500 Wish me luck. 18:42.500 --> 18:43.500 Good luck. 18:43.500 --> 18:48.500 It's Sunday when the 15 members of Scullum Bones normally meet and it's their last 18:48.500 --> 18:51.500 chance before the university breaks up for the summer. 18:51.500 --> 18:56.500 We waited for the chance to see the Bonesmen and ask them what actually goes on inside 18:56.500 --> 18:58.500 and there was an added attraction. 18:58.500 --> 19:00.500 Pop Bonesmen was in town. 19:00.500 --> 19:05.500 Another and George W. Bush here for his daughter's graduation the next day. 19:05.500 --> 19:08.500 Okay well I'm just going to go inside. 19:08.500 --> 19:10.500 Well close like hand to the two. 19:10.500 --> 19:16.500 Just coming up these steps and there are these huge double black doors that must be 19:16.500 --> 19:26.500 about 15 feet high surrounded by concrete pillars and then there's two big padlocks. 19:27.000 --> 19:28.000 obviously saying. 19:28.000 --> 19:29.000 Have a check. 19:29.000 --> 19:30.000 They are definitely not. 19:30.000 --> 19:31.000 There's no way of getting in here. 19:31.000 --> 19:32.000 I'm not going to do anything. 19:32.000 --> 19:33.000 I'm not going to do anything. 19:33.000 --> 19:34.000 I'm not going to do anything. 19:39.000 --> 20:03.000 The building is hard to miss, a 50 foot high windowless mausoleum of grey stones squatting 20:03.000 --> 20:05.000 in the middle of Yale's campus. 20:05.000 --> 20:10.000 The rules of the club forbid any non-member from ever going inside, but Peggy's come pretty 20:10.000 --> 20:16.000 close. She was part of a team that successfully recorded part of the initiation ceremony that 20:16.000 --> 20:18.000 takes place in the tombs courtyard. 20:18.000 --> 20:23.000 Okay, you have the doorway here. Then to the right you have a hedge and then you have an 20:23.000 --> 20:28.000 evergreen tree. If you follow that line straight back, courtyard's in there. 20:28.000 --> 20:30.000 So that's where they have the ceremonies in the courtyard. 20:30.000 --> 20:34.000 The outdoor part of it, part of it was indoor. So we only got to see the outdoor part. 20:34.000 --> 20:38.000 We only got to listen to the outdoor part. God only knows what went on indoors. 20:38.000 --> 20:40.000 And what did you hear? What was it? You know you managed to 20:40.500 --> 20:45.500 forget this unique access. Oh, it was disgusting. It was rough. I mean, they were pretending 20:45.500 --> 20:50.500 to murder people. What was the tone of it though? Was it, was it joky or is this one? 20:50.500 --> 20:54.500 It was just, no. It wasn't joky at all. It was, it was sick. But they only could describe 20:54.500 --> 20:55.500 it, it was sick. 21:01.500 --> 21:06.500 What you're hearing is the first recording ever made of the Scullum Bones initiation ceremony. 21:06.500 --> 21:09.500 It has never been broadcast before. 21:15.000 --> 21:17.000 15 new members of the club. 21:17.000 --> 21:20.000 Okay, I'm going to stop this bit here. 21:20.000 --> 21:22.000 So, fascinating stuff to listen to. 21:22.000 --> 21:24.000 Although, I have to be honest. 21:24.000 --> 21:27.000 Well, first of all, isn't it great the way the BBC does this? 21:27.000 --> 21:29.000 You know, it's a beautiful accent. 21:29.000 --> 21:32.000 The Schollenberg Club on the Yale campus. 21:32.000 --> 21:35.000 It's just, oh man, could you read the phone book for me 21:35.000 --> 21:36.000 and just let me listen to it? 21:36.000 --> 21:38.000 That'll be nice. An audio book or the phone book 21:38.000 --> 21:40.000 done in proper English. That'll be very nice. 21:41.000 --> 21:43.000 So, it's a good listen if you can find it. 21:43.000 --> 21:47.000 I'll see if I can find a place to point to it on my web blog, obviously. 21:47.000 --> 21:51.000 And I have to be honest that, you know, to the Brits maybe 21:51.000 --> 21:54.000 or someone who doesn't know what college fraternities are like 21:54.000 --> 21:57.000 and initiation, you know, all that screaming may seem 21:57.000 --> 22:00.000 a little wacky and a little violent and whatever. 22:00.000 --> 22:04.000 But personally, I went to college for, hmm, see, three and a half months. 22:04.000 --> 22:08.000 I was at Salem College in West Virginia. 22:08.000 --> 22:12.000 My roommate Tyree was from Hamilton, New Jersey. 22:12.000 --> 22:17.000 Hamilton was from Newark, New Jersey. His name was Tyree. 22:16.500 --> 22:24.500 Hamilton. The college was about 60% black and since I was from Holland I wasn't white and 22:24.500 --> 22:29.500 I faithfully pledged Kappa which was an interesting initiation, you know, carrying around a brick 22:29.500 --> 22:33.500 and stuff like that. So that doesn't freak me out too much but the whole story is just 22:33.500 --> 22:36.500 interesting to listen to, particularly when you think about how many US presidents in 22:36.500 --> 22:43.500 recent history have been bones men or members of Skull and Bones. And something else that, 22:43.500 --> 22:48.500 well this is a total political statement, not by me by the way, but something I picked 22:48.500 --> 22:52.500 up from MixFreaks.org. Not quite sure who made it, but it's another wonderful montage. 22:52.500 --> 22:58.500 It's kind of an audio version of a Michael Moore. But it's just, it's a, it's a, 22:58.500 --> 23:02.500 it's well done. It's a great mix. It's George Bush and I want you to listen to it. It's 23:02.500 --> 23:05.500 only two and a half minutes and we still have a whole song of the day to come. But 23:05.500 --> 23:10.500 check out the death of democracy. If you think that your kid is not ready for certain 23:10.500 --> 23:17.500 kinds of environmental simulation, I think it's okay to talk about that. 23:18.000 --> 23:21.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the United States 23:21.000 --> 23:24.000 Death of democracy for the American people 23:24.000 --> 23:27.000 This credits their narrow ideology 23:27.000 --> 23:31.000 Death of democracy for the American people 23:31.000 --> 23:35.000 We will make this an age of war and misery 23:35.000 --> 23:49.000 Progress must end 23:49.000 --> 23:52.000 I've come here tonight to report to all Americans 24:00.000 --> 24:08.000 tolerated such an opportunity death of democracy for the American people discredit their narrow 24:08.000 --> 24:08.000 ideology 24:21.000 --> 24:28.000 of Americans. 24:34.500 --> 24:40.500 their narrow ideology, death of democracy for the American people. 24:40.500 --> 24:42.500 We will make this an age of war. 24:58.500 --> 25:01.500 Killing is necessary. 25:04.500 --> 25:09.500 necessary. Killing to achieve our goals. Killing is necessary. Chaos to ensure our money is 25:09.500 --> 25:15.500 spent wisely and effectively. Killing to achieve our goals. Killing is necessary. Chaos to 25:15.500 --> 25:18.500 achieve our goals. Chaos is necessary. Killing 26:04.500 --> 26:05.500 of democracy. 26:05.500 --> 26:07.500 Progress must end. 26:27.000 --> 26:31.000 Death of democracy. 26:31.000 --> 26:34.000 Death of democracy. 26:34.000 --> 26:38.000 Dictatorship is a massive undertaking. 26:46.500 --> 26:51.500 will be respected. Thank you all very much. 26:52.500 --> 26:58.500 Okay, you can get that from a link on mixfreaks.org. 26:58.500 --> 27:04.500 Very nice by the way that the metadata was put into this MP3 or the ID3 tags. 27:04.500 --> 27:10.500 So that means that I can look it up right now as I see encoded by Lane. 27:10.500 --> 27:11.500 URL link. 27:11.500 --> 27:12.500 Oh here we go. 27:12.500 --> 27:18.500 www.hz37land.com. 27:18.500 --> 27:23.500 So hz37land.com. 27:23.500 --> 27:30.500 So I guess that's 37 Hertz is the name of the artist and the composer. 27:30.500 --> 27:32.500 Let's see any comment. 27:32.500 --> 27:34.500 Is there a comment in here? 27:34.500 --> 27:39.500 Produced or range engineered, mixed and edited by hence 37 Hertz Zimmerman. 27:39.500 --> 27:41.500 See how cool that is. 27:41.500 --> 27:45.500 Okay, let's see the album export more violence. 27:45.500 --> 27:46.500 God. 27:46.500 --> 27:47.500 Oh man. 27:47.500 --> 27:48.500 Alrighty. 27:48.500 --> 27:49.500 Okay. 27:49.500 --> 27:53.500 Oh I want to do a little techno geek test with you guys. 27:54.000 --> 28:00.000 I'm going to check my phone system here because now I've got Skype all set up where I should 28:00.000 --> 28:06.000 be able to make a phone call directly from my computer and record it. 28:06.000 --> 28:11.000 What I'm going to do here is I'm going to call my wife. 28:16.500 --> 28:21.500 Let's see if she can hear me, if you can hear me, and if we can hear her. 28:21.500 --> 28:22.500 Okay. 28:22.500 --> 28:23.500 Connecting. 28:27.000 --> 28:28.000 be pretty cool if it works. 28:30.000 --> 28:32.000 Still connecting. 28:39.000 --> 28:39.000 Okay. 28:39.000 --> 28:42.000 We need, yeah, we need here. 28:43.000 --> 28:48.000 We need a little dialing music on a second. 28:52.500 --> 28:57.500 A little dynamic music for you while we try out the Skype connection here. 29:06.000 --> 29:08.000 We're gonna try it again. 29:16.500 --> 29:17.500 That's ringing. 29:17.500 --> 29:18.500 Cool. 29:18.500 --> 29:22.500 I can hear it ringing in the other room. 29:22.500 --> 29:23.500 Hello. 29:23.500 --> 29:24.500 Hello. 29:24.500 --> 29:25.500 Hi, hon. 29:25.500 --> 29:26.500 Hi, babe. 29:26.500 --> 29:27.500 I was just testing my system. 29:27.500 --> 29:28.500 I know. 29:28.500 --> 29:29.500 It works. 29:29.500 --> 29:30.500 Crazy person. 29:30.500 --> 29:31.500 Thank you, hon. 29:31.500 --> 29:32.500 You're such a crazy person. 29:32.500 --> 29:33.500 Yes, all right. 29:33.500 --> 29:34.500 Bye bye. 29:34.500 --> 29:35.500 Love you. 29:35.500 --> 29:36.500 Bye bye. 29:36.500 --> 29:37.500 Bye bye. 29:37.500 --> 29:38.500 Bye bye. 29:38.500 --> 29:39.500 Bye bye. 29:39.500 --> 29:40.500 Bye bye. 29:40.500 --> 29:41.500 Bye bye. 29:41.500 --> 29:42.500 Bye bye. 29:42.500 --> 29:43.500 Bye bye. 29:43.500 --> 29:44.500 Bye bye. 29:44.500 --> 29:45.500 Bye bye. 29:45.500 --> 29:46.500 Okay. 29:46.500 --> 29:47.500 Okay. 29:47.500 --> 29:49.500 It works. 29:49.500 --> 29:53.500 So that means that I can call out and talk to people on the phone. 29:53.500 --> 29:59.500 And it means that if I have someone else on Skype call, we can talk to each other for free. 29:59.500 --> 30:00.500 Excellent. 30:00.500 --> 30:05.500 I posted a screenshot of my harvest on my weblog yesterday. 30:05.500 --> 30:07.500 You remember we talked about that. 30:07.500 --> 30:08.500 I'm pretty pleased. 30:08.500 --> 30:10.500 This is the first time I've ever harvested. 30:10.500 --> 30:11.500 I've got... 30:11.500 --> 30:17.500 I should weigh this actually to find out how much it is, but it's now laying out to dry. 30:18.000 --> 30:21.000 I'm trying to get some advice on that. 30:21.000 --> 30:23.000 I've heard some people say, smoke it now, 30:23.000 --> 30:25.000 but I don't think it's gonna burn very well. 30:25.000 --> 30:27.000 So everything's on paper towels 30:27.000 --> 30:28.000 to get up some of the moisture, 30:28.000 --> 30:32.000 and then I'm gonna hang them upside down in a dry place 30:32.000 --> 30:35.000 to see how, yeah, see if we can get that done. 30:35.000 --> 30:36.000 I don't know how long it's gonna take, 30:36.000 --> 30:39.000 but I promise once we've harvested, 30:39.000 --> 30:40.000 once everything's dry, 30:40.000 --> 30:43.000 we're gonna do a little tasting on the show here. 30:43.000 --> 30:46.000 I failed to point out yesterday, by the way, 30:46.000 --> 30:49.000 that in many countries in Europe, 30:49.000 --> 30:52.000 certainly in the Netherlands and in Belgium, 30:52.000 --> 30:55.000 you are allowed to have five marijuana plants 30:55.000 --> 30:56.000 for personal use, 30:56.000 --> 30:58.000 and you're also allowed to have marijuana 30:58.000 --> 30:59.000 for personal use and to smoke it. 31:01.000 --> 31:03.000 The only problem is you gotta get it from somebody, 31:03.000 --> 31:05.000 and that's, you know, you're allowed to buy it, 31:05.000 --> 31:06.000 but you're not allowed to sell it. 31:06.000 --> 31:08.000 So it's kind of a funky law we got going on here. 31:08.000 --> 31:10.000 It doesn't matter, I'm not fighting the system, 31:10.000 --> 31:11.000 I'm happy the way it is. 31:11.000 --> 31:13.000 Shout out to Drew Domkis, 31:13.000 --> 31:15.000 who listens to the Daily Source Code 31:15.000 --> 31:18.000 every single day in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 31:18.000 --> 31:19.000 And... 31:19.500 --> 31:22.500 Let's see, he says, interesting broadcast from Belgium and Amsterdam. 31:22.500 --> 31:24.500 My wife and I took a vacation in Amsterdam this past February. 31:24.500 --> 31:27.500 I enjoyed it very much and plan to return soon. 31:27.500 --> 31:28.500 Good luck with your harvest. 31:28.500 --> 31:30.500 I love the photo you posted of it. 31:30.500 --> 31:32.500 Yes, well, indeed. 31:32.500 --> 31:34.500 And so this one's going out for you. 31:34.500 --> 31:36.500 I figured I'm going to play a song of the day today. 31:36.500 --> 31:39.500 I'll play something out that is classical Dutch. 31:39.500 --> 31:44.500 This is a Dutchman who's had minor success in the stakes. 31:44.500 --> 31:46.500 His name is Herman Berenier. 31:46.500 --> 34:38.000 [ Music ] 34:38.000 --> 34:43.000 Herman Broth in his wild romance, never be clever and in the states you call him Herman 34:43.000 --> 34:50.000 Brood known from the song Saturday Nights. Probably heard that one. Actually, I can 34:50.000 --> 34:57.000 let you hear a little bit of that. Sure you've heard Saturday Nights because 34:57.000 --> 35:00.000 that was actually a minor hit in the States. 35:00.000 --> 35:07.000 Wait. Can't even type anymore. Here we go. This is the Saturday night. 35:07.000 --> 35:09.000 Probably heard this one. 35:09.000 --> 35:10.000 Skip ahead. 35:16.500 --> 35:21.500 Okay, shit that's not the version I was looking for. 35:21.500 --> 35:24.500 Anyway, in The Never Be Clever, I just want to tell you, Herman Brod, as we call him here, 35:24.500 --> 35:30.500 or Brood in the States, was truly the rock and roll god in the Netherlands. 35:30.500 --> 35:34.500 When I say was because he passed away, I'll talk about that in a sec. 35:34.500 --> 35:41.500 He's done every drug known to man probably every hour of the day that he was awake. 35:41.500 --> 35:44.500 We all found it amazing that he still walked around. 35:44.500 --> 35:50.500 He became an extremely, extremely popular painter for a while. 35:50.500 --> 35:54.500 He had a very highly publicized affair with Nina Hagen. 35:54.500 --> 35:55.500 Imagine those two. 35:55.500 --> 35:59.500 You've got to look up Herman Brod, so it's Herman, B-R-O-O-D. 35:59.500 --> 36:04.500 I'll look up a picture of him and then this probably pictures of him and Nina Hagen together. 36:04.500 --> 36:09.500 And you heard maybe in the lyrics of Never Be Clever, which was recorded, oh man, it's 36:09.500 --> 36:10.500 maybe 25 years old. 36:10.500 --> 36:16.500 There's a line there that says some people say I'm suicidal with a sense of humor. 36:16.500 --> 36:17.500 Well indeed, because... 36:18.000 --> 36:25.000 That was about three years ago, a hair man who at the time, he was not doing well. 36:25.000 --> 36:28.000 He done drugs all his life, heroin being his favorite. 36:28.000 --> 36:32.000 And the doctor said, look, you know, dude, you got to stop the heroin, you got to stop 36:32.000 --> 36:34.000 the drinking or you're going to die. 36:34.000 --> 36:38.000 And what he did was he stopped the heroin, he stopped the drinking and his body freaked 36:38.000 --> 36:39.000 out. 36:39.000 --> 36:43.000 His body could not live without the drugs and he was just dying and he was, it 36:43.000 --> 36:44.000 was, it was bad. 36:44.000 --> 36:49.000 And what he did is he walked about seven or eight minutes from his house in 36:49.000 --> 36:54.000 the south of Amsterdam to the Hilton Hotel, the same one that John and 36:54.000 --> 36:56.000 Yoko stayed in bed for a week. 36:56.000 --> 37:00.000 He walked up to the rooftop and jumped on. 37:00.000 --> 37:03.000 And thus the end of Hair Man Brode. 37:03.000 --> 37:05.000 Thank God we still have his music to play on the source code. 37:05.000 --> 37:06.000 That's it for today. 37:06.000 --> 37:09.000 With little luck in about an hour, an hour and a half or so, I'm going to 37:09.000 --> 37:14.000 work on taping the new show that we'll do, which I'm sure it won't 37:14.000 --> 37:18.000 be up anywhere for listening until tomorrow or maybe the weekend. 37:18.000 --> 37:19.000 You know, just let you. 37:19.500 --> 37:22.500 that we're working on it. And with that I'm going to finish off the source code for today. 37:22.500 --> 37:26.500 Thank you very much for listening. Of course you can always leave a comment at adamantcurry.com. 37:51.000 --> 37:53.000 Bye bye!